July 10, 2024 • 28 mins
Welcome to another enriching episode of Landing Imperfect! Today, we have an incredibly inspiring guest joining us—Mary Emmarco, an exceptional keynote speaker.
In this episode, Mary delves into her fascinating journey of becoming a keynote speaker who empowers individuals to build resilience and actualize their dreams. She opens up about her personal struggles, including overcoming fears and negative core beliefs, and offers tangible advice on cultivating a resilient mindset and unwavering confidence.
We'll also discuss practical strategies for maintaining momentum during challenging times, the importance of having a strong "why," and the transformative power of coaching and mentorship. Stay tuned for this inspiring conversation that promises to leave you motivated and equipped to tackle your own challenges head-on. Let's get started!
00:00 Struggling with fears and self-doubt, overcoming.
03:51 Confronting fears is key to starting and continuing.
07:26 Finding the right support is essential.
11:36 Building belief, breaking barriers, and overcoming doubts.
13:18 Believe in self, face fears, find purpose.
18:38 Prioritize self-improvement over work, maintain balance.
19:42 Maintain compelling why, overcome doubts, find success.
23:14 Overcoming negative beliefs through self-awareness and persistence.
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Hey, everyone.
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Welcome back to another episodeof landing and perfect today.
I'm excited to have a guest whoI met in a rather unexpected
way.
A few months ago.
We both through our hats in thering for a speaking competition.
And let's just say the energy inthe room at this event was
electric while neither one of usmade it to the final round.
I know it's hard to believe.
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Um, But something truly awesomecame of it.
So Mary here is absolutely.
An infectious person with anamazing personality.
And she has this incrediblepassion for what she does.
I knew right away that I neededto connect with this inspiring
woman.
Mary is an incredible keynote.
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speaker.
And she has built her businesson helping people build
resilience, which is a qualitythat I so admire and a lot of
people, and it isn't always easyto come by.
So she helps teach people how tobuild that resilience.
And I'm so excited to have heron.
So let's get started.
Hi, Mary.
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I'm so glad to have you on thepodcast today.
So I just want to start by youtelling us a little bit about
your business and the speakingtopics that you touch on.
Cool.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for having me.
And yeah.
Um, so I speak about resilience.
I'm really passionate aboutthat, uh, helping people keep
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going and helping them to, um,really step into their mission
and to start actualizing theirdream that's on their heart,
their business, that they havethis calling on their heart.
They want to solve a problem.
They really want to help people.
They really want to have thatfreedom as well.
And then They want to make itreal.
They want to start getting paid,but they are frustrated and they
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don't know what to do about it.
So really help them to keepgoing.
And when, and then it's reallytriggering to run a business
too.
Like you have to face all yourfears of success and failure and
rejection and the unknown andimposter syndrome.
It's a lot.
So it's a really challenging andit feels like a lonely time.
So to have that support, to havesomebody in your corner, to
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really help you to build thatresilience.
So no, you can keep going.
I think it's a really powerfulthing.
And so I love to speak aboutthat.
So that's what I speak on.
Yeah, that's amazing.
I love that so much.
So for your speakingengagements, um, is there a
certain location that you go to,or you'll go anywhere and speak
about this topic?
Oh, yeah, I'll go anywhere.
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That's awesome.
Yeah.
So needed.
I mean, especially likeresilience, because it is a
skill, like not everyone hasthat, you know, so just to be
able to keep going when, whenthings get tough is not always
easy.
And like you're saying,rejection, I think that's a
really tough thing to kind offace and a big fear that a lot
of people have, which issomething that I'm kind of
wondering for you did you haveany fears, when you wanted to
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start this business, Uh, it'smore like what fears didn't I
have?
Um, uh, yeah, for sure.
Like, can I do it?
Well, that was a huge, hugething, like the fear of not
being enough is, it's a humanthing, but I really struggled
with feeling of worthlessnessand growing up with that.
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And, um, so to think that Icould actually do something like
this, that I, you know, mostpeople fail at and all this, all
the statistics are against you.
And so it's like, who am I tothink I could do that?
So that was a huge, uh, thing towork through.
And then.
Feeling like money is evil andselling's evil and just afraid
of, like, who I would be if Iwas a person that sold and I had
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to work through that.
And then, I'm not qualified.
Like, who can I actually help?
Like, okay, I got thiscertification and I helped some
people for free, but, I'm amess.
So a lot to work through andthen fear of success and either
becoming a terrible person orbeing rejected for my sisters.
And they're really my onlyfamily.
So it was so much to go throughand, um, I think that's one of
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the major things that arestopping people is their fears
and it comes in the form ofexcuses a lot of times, and just
being real with yourself aboutyour fears I think is a really
powerful thing to just help youstart and to help you keep
going.
So.
Along the way a lot of fearsthat I had to consistently
address and realize.
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Oh, I'm procrastinating.
What's really going on?
Like I'm not doing the things ortook me a long time to realize I
was doing a ton of busy workWhich is just fears of not
actually putting myself outthere when I was starting out,
especially Sometimes I can getinto it.
I can recognize the pattern alot faster but it was a long
time of constant busy workbefore I was like Like someone
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had to tell me um, I think itwas a seminar or something.
They're like, yeah, are youdoing work that will actually
serve clients?
Are you just doing busy work?
I was like, Oh, that's me.
So there's a lot going into it.
Fears are a huge, huge componentand, uh, recognizing and
normalizing it.
It's a thing to be consistentlyrecognizing and working through
is a powerful thing to kind of,and then to start, I think
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having a powerful reason whythat's beyond yourself.
Tapping into that and thenreminding yourself of it.
I think that's really powerfulfor starting and for keeping
going.
And then your belief in yourselfas well.
I think that's a huge, hugething.
I was sitting down and thinkingabout what things really helped
me keep going.
And.
Start and everything.
And those, like those thingswere really powerful.
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Definitely.
I mean, I think those fears thatyou're just naming are so
relatable to a lot of people andit prevents people from getting
started.
Um, but it's so funny when youwere talking about the busy
work, I swear I've said thislike five times already this
week when people are asking me,what are you, like, what have
you been up to?
I'm like, I'm so busy, so busy,but it's like, what am I doing
so I'm like, that awarenessthat, okay, like, yeah, you are
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busy.
Sure.
But is it things that are movingthe needle?
So I think that awareness is soimportant and I'm glad that you
brought that up so the time thatyou decided that you wanted to
start your business at the timethat you actually launched your
business, I know things that youhad just mentioned about, um,
Just having like accountabilityand support like who do you
reach out to like who are thepeople that you lean on for
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supporter to hold youaccountable like where do you
find the people.
So that's actually reallychallenging I know it's not
really accessible to everybodybut coaches and mentors.
Uh, really powerful for me andeven I noticed, so I feel like
if I told myself the story thatI couldn't afford one, but then
realizing all the stuff I wasbuying on Amazon that I didn't
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need and like all this kind ofstuff and like extra purchases
on Walmart that wereunnecessary.
So if you're in that boat, youcan probably find the money to
invest in this.
So this is really important to,um, cause there is really
nothing like it just.
her belief in me and her supportand her helping me decide
because I worked on a belief inmyself but I would go back and
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forth between I think thiscrushing doubt I had all this
evidence I couldn't do it andthen I have to try to build
myself up no you can do it likeremember like what you know I'm
like no you can't do it and thedoubt was getting stronger and
stronger.
But she helped me make adecision that like, I'm going to
go until and I'm going to makethis happen.
I'm going to get paid to do thisthing that I love and it's going
to happen.
So that was a powerful shiftthat a coach helped me.
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Um, so I would say doingYouTubes and books and podcasts,
if you don't have that and thenin Facebook groups, I think it
can be kind of a challenge tofind, but there's a lot of
people looking foraccountability partners, but
knowing that it may take a few,um, There are a bunch of tries
to get someone who's actuallygoing to show up for it.
I've found that sometimes peoplesay they're going to show up
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for, uh, things likeaccountability and they don't
always do.
So trying to find a match with apartner if you really need to go
the free route, but being honestwith yourself.
As far as like, if you're goingto make this a priority, if you
can find a way to kind of findthe money to invest in a coach,
a mentor who has testimonialsand also matches you on an
energetic levels, a reallypowerful support system to help
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you get started and to keepgoing.
So I would say for sure, lovethose suggestions because it's
both like, if you have thefinancial means, then definitely
coaching is a great option.
And then the free resources to Ifeel like when I think about
social media, I'm kind of like,sometimes I go to the negative
side of social media and, uh,I'm like, this is actually a
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really powerful resource ifyou're using it effectively, you
know?
So finding those supports, likethe support groups, like you're
saying on Facebook but yeah, Imean there's so many free
resources, YouTube, podcasting,you know, PO podcasting, like
what we're doing right now, likeyou're listening right now.
So kudos to you.
Great job, it's a cool place tobe.
I like YouTube better if youhave to, if you wanna like
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actually learn from people andget inspired and kind of like
really reignite your belief andget some tools and tips and
stuff.
Because I feel like with theother socials, the negative side
with you can get sucked in andit gets.
For me, anyway, more intensewith the addiction side of
things to the scrolling and thisand that with the other ones.
But YouTube, I can like go thereand just learn things and get my
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notebook out and like just, andI can leave without like so much
willpower.
Um, so yeah, if you want to leantowards one of them, I think
YouTube is a great.
That's a great idea.
Uh, because that infinitescroll, I mean, you could just
go on and on and I catch myselfsometimes where I'm going on for
something specific and thensomething catches my eye and
then 10 hours later.
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I'm like, Oh, what am I stilldoing?
Yeah, I put the timers on.
Oh, timers are great too.
I love that.
Yes.
I have it in the app too.
I didn't know that.
So it actually like interruptsyour scroll.
Yeah.
I didn't know that, but Facebookand Instagram, I have them both.
Even if I snooze them, I'm stillon there way less time than if I
had nothing on there.
So highly recommend that one aswell.
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I love it.
That's awesome.
What are some ways that peoplecan build resilience and
confidence?
Cause I know obviously theconfidence comes within time,
but do you have anything thatyou typically will suggest in
your keynotes or something thatcan help people build that
resilience and confidence?
Yeah, um, I think they can goalong with each other.
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The confidence, like probably alot of people say, and like you
were kind of alluding to, likeit really does come, you do it
and then you gain betterconfidence and you kind of tell
your nervous system and bodylike, hey, this is safe and I
can do it and without dying andit's okay.
And then also you literallybuild your skills and get better
at it.
But I think there's anotherpiece to confidence and it also
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goes in with.
Helping you keep going andhaving that resilience Part of
that I think is confidence.
They really sat down and when Iwas writing my main signature
talk I was like what reallyhelped me keep going and I was
mentioning earlier about likebeliefs and fears and um a
strong reason beyond yourself.
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So those are the three mainthings and there's other ways,
so I think confidence is part ofthe building resilience and
keeping going.
So with building the confidence,I feel like we're kind of born
with it, but we have thesetraumas and we have these
experiences that, teach us orprove to us that we can't do
things and we're not a capableperson or, you know, sometimes
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worse.
Like, I really struggled withfeelings of worthlessness.
I grew up believing that.
I heard that from my dad all thetime.
And so instead of necessarilytrying to build it, I think
first breaking down the evidencethat you have that you can't do
something or that you can'tfigure it out.
So like you get better by doingand you get the confidence, but
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in building the ability and thebelief that you can figure it
out and that you can get betterand that you can build the
skills, what's in the way ofthat?
And kind of.
Breaking down what's in the wayof that.
Like, Oh, well, I'm worthlessbecause I heard it all my life
and my dad said it.
So it's like, probably true.
And then it's like, well, isthat true?
And kind of really questioningthat?
Like, well, no, he hadschizophrenia.
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He had this severe mentalillness.
He had all this rage and he wasabused and he's taking his stuff
out on me.
And, you know, so then it'slike, does it make sense?
And it's like, I lost all thesejobs and I, um, I don't know.
I failed a test in school andalmost didn't graduate and then
I'm like stupid and I'mincapable of doing things.
It's like, well, I believed Icouldn't do it.
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So that became true.
So it's like, how is that anyevidence?
So when you start to break apartall this evidence and actually
like write out and name thethings, what makes me think I
can't do it and like write itout and look for all the things
and just name all the thingsthat pop up and then kind of BS,
like break those things apart.
Like, does this necessarily meanthat?
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And if you're too close to it,you can ask it.
If somebody else had this list,would you think it meant that
they can't do these things orthey can't figure them out?
So I think that's a reallypowerful way to kind of release
the constraints.
You have the things in the wayof you actually being able to
build the confidence.
And then it allows it to flowmuch better, and then you can
more readily tell yourself ortake in the information when
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people say you can do it.
And, whether the podcasts andthe books or you telling
yourself, you can more easilybelieve it when that kind of
stuff is at least true.
out of the way.
I mean, it's like a work inprogress to remind yourself
because doubts come up all thetime and stuff like that.
But, I think that's a powerfulthing.
And I think when you believe inyourself and your ability to
figure out whatever it is, I'llfind a way, I'll get through
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this, I'm strong, I'm capable,or building the resilience in
that and having the confidencein yourself in that respect and
then, I'm going to do thisbecause I'm going to go until
I'm going to figure it out.
Your fears are a huge thing.
So really continually addressingthem and realizing them and.
Being okay with them and kind ofcreating safety along the way
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with it.
Like, you know, I'm, this isn'tgonna kill me, even though it
feels incredibly painful and Ican handle this and you know, it
really goes hand in hand withthe beliefs and stuff too.
And then like a reason beyondyourself to keep going on either
your mission or like just inlife in general.
Whether people that are countingon you in this business mission
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that you're gonna serve, thatare like past you, that you're
gonna help and really transformtheir lives, and they're going
to be counting on you.
Or you're gonna this safety netof like money for your kids, or
you're gonna have this money tobuild this beautiful foundation
to make a huge impact on thesepeople's lives, something beyond
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yourself to keep you goingthrough really hard challenging
life and hard challenging roadto going after this mission of
yours.
So I think those are powerfulresilience building.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel like you're just speakingstraight to me.
I mean, like what I think aboutwhen you're saying this.
So I feel like for many people,it starts with the why, like
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everyone has a goal or they havesomething that they want to
accomplish or do in life.
So figuring out what your why islike, why do you want to do
that?
You know, what does that mean toyou?
And then not stopping therebecause like you're describing,
there's a lot of feeling thatcomes along with it too.
So what really pushes peoplethrough is the feeling, like,
how do I want to feel once Iaccomplish this?
But.
To get to that, you have to kindof back up like take a few steps
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back and see like what'spreventing you from doing that
and looking into maybe somepeople it's childhood trauma or
it's even just doesn't even haveto be trauma.
But having some accountabilityand some skin in the game to
where like you're saying peopleare counting on you to So, you
know, deliver what you're sayingthat you're going to deliver.
And I just think that that'sreally great.
And I think that that's helpedme along the way too, and the
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work that I've done, to get towhere I am too.
So I think that, like you'resaying, it really is powerful to
look at those things and justbuild resilience that way.
So that's great.
I love that.
So I think I know what you'regoing to say to this, but I just
want to be very clear.
Do you feel like someone'smindset is really preventing
them from starting buildingtheir business?
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Yes, I for sure.
Yeah.
You probably guessed, right.
I'm sure that's what you thoughtI was going to say.
Um, I know from personalexperience and I did invest in
all these courses.
I did like a bunch of free stuffand then I started investing
heavily money into all theseseminars and coaches and
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everything.
So I had all the skills and Ihad multiple ways of being able
to get these outcome, likeactually serve these paying
clients.
Initially I was doing one on onecoaching.
Now I'm focusing on speaking,but like I had all the actual
resources to do it and thesupport and everything.
But until I got honest about mymindset stuff, I mean, three and
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a half years to serve a payingclient.
Some people may relate, but mostpeople are usually like, whoa,
or anywhere in between that.
But it was a lot.
And then took me like threeyears to be like, no mindset has
to be a consistent focus.
And I love what my one coachsaid.
I found this one like beautifulmatch coach and really powerful,
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um, help that she.
Provided for me, but she waslike, mindset is your full time
job.
Your business is your sidehustle.
And I thought that was so coolbecause it's so true because all
the fears, all the humanness, Imean, to build something and to
start it and to go after it.
It's really like, it's againstour humanness or like our basic,
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natural instincts of survivaland comfort and steadiness.
So like the unknown and like,and like I said, the fears of
rejection and the failure andthe unknown and success and
putting ourselves out there andnot being accepted in the, you
know, belonging in the tribe,ancient survival stuff.
So it's really, reallychallenging.
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So it's a huge thing.
And on top of that, there's, um,chat, GBT and YouTube and all
these free resources on manyways, different people were able
to succeed at the thing you wantto succeed at or free, you can
get these things.
So the mindset is like the huge.
differentiator between like youhave all these resources and
actually being able to applythem on a consistent basis.
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So yes, I very much think thatmindset is a huge component and
strategy definitely isimportant.
Like it's not something to beignored, but it's more readily
available and mindset is morepersonal and challenging and
hard.
You have to get ask yourself thehard questions and yeah, so it's
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more.
Challenging.
I love the way this, the quotethat you had just said.
It was your full time job isyour mindset.
And then your side hustle isyour business.
Is that what it was?
Yeah.
But one of my favorite quotes isWork harder on yourself than you
do on your job, which that'ssomething that I live by because
obviously if you are in a goodplace and you're healthy and
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happy with where you are inlife, then it's going to show in
every other area of your life,you know, but some people will
try it.
They're all in everything intotheir job, but then at the end
of the day, it's like, you stillhave to go home to yourself, you
know, and it's if people canbreak through and really put
that, um, time in and work intothe, their selves, but I love
that.
That was just a different way ofkind of looking at it, but kind
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of saying the same thing, but Ilove that.
Um, so For me, I think this issomething and I think it's
pretty relatable for a lot ofpeople when you get into that
dip.
So when you're startingsomething and it's so exciting
at first and you have all thisadrenaline and motivation to
keep going, but when it getstough and there's a dip because
there's pretty much always goingto be a dip.
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I have not talked to anyone whothere's, there's not been a dip
or a loss in like momentum andwhat they're doing.
What do you think could behelpful for those people to keep
going?
I mean, I think the stuff thatwe were talking about, like
having that compelling why andconsistently working on your
fears and, making that decision,like you believe in yourself,
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but then making a decision,like, I'm going to go until I
like mentioned that, but that'sa really powerful shift there
because then it, it kind ofquiets the doubts because the
doubts will come in and it'slike, Yeah, but I already made
this full on decision that I'mgoing to go until so that's
powerful.
And I think reminding yourselfof your why because I remember I
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tapped into a powerful why butthen I didn't read it and then
life happened and doubts andFailures and showing up
consistently and nothing likenot even prospective clients on
the horizon, like just sofrustrating, just nonstop
continuing to go with no resultsor no, like hope of anything
happening ever and just massiveamounts of time and energy and
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I'm like, I'm trying everythingand I'm paying all the money and
doing all the things.
I tried everything and I toldmyself, so it was a lot.
It was really frustrating.
So definitely the powerful whyhad like many breakdowns when I
wasn't reminding myself of thatwhy, but then I thankfully would
remember it when I reallystarted reading every day.
I think that's a really powerfulthing.
And then, yeah, your mindset atthe forefront and recognizing
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it's a thing and thennormalizing that process, I
think is a really powerful thingto remember.
Like, it's not like you only seelike the good stuff on socials.
Like you don't see all the backend stuff or the years of
learning and pain and peoplethankfully are open about that.
They had breakdowns too.
I'm like, Oh yeah, I'm not theonly one like crying kids and
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breakdowns and stuff along theway.
Like it's really hard.
So.
Um, normalizing and tellingyourself, reminding yourself
that it's hard and it's aprocess and doesn't mean I'm
screwed up, incapable, doinganything wrong if it's taking a
long time and if it's reallyhard and just because I'm
showing up knowing that there'slike a, I was googling and it
was like a, Longer than Ithought, because my coach
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initially told me that it shouldtake about like three months to
start getting traction, maybesix months of like consistently
showing up.
But Google was saying, I thinklike 12 months for marketing to
start really working.
So I think it just takes a lotlonger because you hear like,
you know, 10k in 90 days, butmaybe that's their fifth
business.
You know, or maybe they grew upwith business owners and maybe
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they don't have the traumas thatyou have, or maybe they don't
have the mindset hangups andselling and, and, and any, and,
and, you know, the insecuritiesthat you have, like whatever
kind of thing.
So just, um, normalizing thatit's hard.
And just because you're seeingit look and feel easy for other
people doesn't mean they're notstruggling to, um, I think that
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could help with the keep goingso just to give an example of
what I have been dealing withjust on topic of what we're
talking about here is.
It was almost a year ago.
I think in September I hadbought a course on building
digital courses.
It was an Amy Porterfieldcourse.
So I bought this course and I'mlike, I'm going to build a
digital course, and it took, I'mlike, okay, well, I don't even
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know what I want to talk about.
Like, what is the course goingto be on?
You know?
So it took me a while to figureout like what I even wanted to
do.
And I've been saying, I'm goingto build a course since then.
So it's almost been a year and Ihave not built this dang course
yet.
So I keep saying, I'm going tobuild, I'm going to build it.
So I've been telling peoplerecently, like, I know why I
haven't built it.
It's because of the tech.
Like, I'm just, I'm no good attech.
I suck at tech.
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That is so surface level.
That is not the, like, yes, it'sgoing to be challenging and it's
going to be hard, but that is sosurface that is not, that is not
what's holding me back.
A big thing is I have this.
Negative core belief that I'mnot smart enough.
That has been mine for so long,like back to childhood, you
know, that has been a story thatI've told myself for so long.
Um, so that's something havingthat awareness of what your
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negative core belief is, is soimportant to keep working
through and like, I'm telling,like I'm saying right now, even
though I know what that is, it'sjust, you consistently have to
put in the work to work through,like, trying to rebuild or just
break it down, you know, rebuildwhat that negative core belief
is into a more positive belief,because That's just to give
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perspective to people like thishas been almost 12, 12 months of
me like talking about this dangcourse and I still haven't built
it, but I am going to build it.
I will build it and I am soaringenough.
So just so people know that thisis, this is very common and it's
very relatable for anyone.
I mean, I'm a psychiatric nursepractitioner.
I am very passionate aboutmental health.
I think mindset is a huge thing,you know, so even professionals
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or anyone who's high achieving,there's so many people out there
who are just struggling withvery, very common things.
So to feel not good enough, Ithink it is relatable, but you,
you are good enough.
You are very much anyone who'slistening to this.
You have a goal, you havesomething that you want to do.
You absolutely are good enough.
Mary, you are good enough.
We are all good enough.
I think that you have offered somany valuable tips.
to people to try to work throughthose things.
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You're an incredible speaker.
Um, so tell us where people canfind you and, you know, if they
want to work with you, if theywant to book you, like, let us
know where we can connect withyou.
Awesome.
Yeah.
Um, you can go to my Instagram.
Mary E.
Speaks.
It's M A R Y E, like Eric, um,speaks.
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com.
Oh, sorry.
That's, uh, dot com's mywebsite.
M A R Y E speaks dot com is mywebsite if you want to check it
out and, um, book a conversationwith me if you can speak about,
if you want to.
Think about hiring me to speakand, um, you could DM me on
social.
So I G is just at Mary E speaksthat, uh, yeah, I don't know.
(25:18):
I keep saying that.
That's okay.
Cause I'll put, I'll put it inthe show notes too.
Then Facebook is Mary E Marco EM M A R C O is my last name.
And yeah, either one of those,you can DM me and check me out
check Mary out.
She's incredible.
She's amazing.
You, you truly are, and you'regoing to help so many people.
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I love your energy and justbeing able to be in your
presence.
It's just so powerful and sogreat.
And I appreciate you so much.
Um, before we go though, I liketo ask just some fun questions.
So what is your favorite quote?
Well, I like that mindset onethat we talked about, but
actually I like the one, um,it's not the number of breaths
you take, but the moments thattake your breath away.
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I love that one too.
That is so good.
And what's your favorite book?
Um, so it's challenging becauseI really love a lot of books,
but I'm pretty sure.
So when I always go back to, uh,psycho cybernetics, it's, um,
Maxwell malts.
It's like, I feel so empoweredand it's so incredible.
(26:23):
Every time I read it reallyteaches you the power of the
unconscious and that how we canuse it and it's not that, you
know, we're not enough.
It's just that we're just usingour programming wrong.
We're programming in like afailure mechanism and we could
just set it up for success.
It's just really cool the way hedoes that.
And then he's got this powerfulthing on forgiveness and I've
never heard anybody say before,uh, forgiveness, like, some hard
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truths.
you want to feel morallysuperior, so maybe you're
holding on to resentment andnot, uh, forgiving.
And then, um, knowing thatthey're doing their best, um,
always, so they never reallydeserve to be condoned for what
they did in the first place.
It's like, but yeah, it reallyis powerful and true and helped
me really.
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I tapped into forgiveness andkind of let go of some of my
past stuff.
And yeah, so powerful.
I'm going to check that outbecause I love, I just love when
someone recommends a book,especially if it's touched their
lives the way that you're, Imean, you're speaking very
passionately about it.
I'm like, I got to read thisbook.
So thank you for sharing that.
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Yeah.
Okay.
So thank you so much, Mary.
I appreciate you and give her afollow check her website at
website.
I can talk website out.
She's an amazing person.
Amazing speaker.
So I hope everyone has anincredible week weekend whenever
you're listening to this and Iwill see you next week.
Thank you so much for joining meon this episode of landing
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Hey, everyone.
(00:00):
Welcome back to another episodeof landing and perfect today.
I'm excited to have a guest whoI met in a rather unexpected
way.
A few months ago.
We both through our hats in thering for a speaking competition.
And let's just say the energy inthe room at this event was
electric while neither one of usmade it to the final round.
I know it's hard to believe.
(00:21):
Um, But something truly awesomecame of it.
So Mary here is absolutely.
An infectious person with anamazing personality.
And she has this incrediblepassion for what she does.
I knew right away that I neededto connect with this inspiring
woman.
Mary is an incredible keynote.
(00:41):
speaker.
And she has built her businesson helping people build
resilience, which is a qualitythat I so admire and a lot of
people, and it isn't always easyto come by.
So she helps teach people how tobuild that resilience.
And I'm so excited to have heron.
So let's get started.
Hi, Mary.
(01:01):
I'm so glad to have you on thepodcast today.
So I just want to start by youtelling us a little bit about
your business and the speakingtopics that you touch on.
Cool.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for having me.
And yeah.
Um, so I speak about resilience.
I'm really passionate aboutthat, uh, helping people keep
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going and helping them to, um,really step into their mission
and to start actualizing theirdream that's on their heart,
their business, that they havethis calling on their heart.
They want to solve a problem.
They really want to help people.
They really want to have thatfreedom as well.
And then They want to make itreal.
They want to start getting paid,but they are frustrated and they
(01:44):
don't know what to do about it.
So really help them to keepgoing.
And when, and then it's reallytriggering to run a business
too.
Like you have to face all yourfears of success and failure and
rejection and the unknown andimposter syndrome.
It's a lot.
So it's a really challenging andit feels like a lonely time.
So to have that support, to havesomebody in your corner, to
(02:05):
really help you to build thatresilience.
So no, you can keep going.
I think it's a really powerfulthing.
And so I love to speak aboutthat.
So that's what I speak on.
Yeah, that's amazing.
I love that so much.
So for your speakingengagements, um, is there a
certain location that you go to,or you'll go anywhere and speak
about this topic?
Oh, yeah, I'll go anywhere.
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That's awesome.
Yeah.
So needed.
I mean, especially likeresilience, because it is a
skill, like not everyone hasthat, you know, so just to be
able to keep going when, whenthings get tough is not always
easy.
And like you're saying,rejection, I think that's a
really tough thing to kind offace and a big fear that a lot
of people have, which issomething that I'm kind of
wondering for you did you haveany fears, when you wanted to
(02:49):
start this business, Uh, it'smore like what fears didn't I
have?
Um, uh, yeah, for sure.
Like, can I do it?
Well, that was a huge, hugething, like the fear of not
being enough is, it's a humanthing, but I really struggled
with feeling of worthlessnessand growing up with that.
(03:11):
And, um, so to think that Icould actually do something like
this, that I, you know, mostpeople fail at and all this, all
the statistics are against you.
And so it's like, who am I tothink I could do that?
So that was a huge, uh, thing towork through.
And then.
Feeling like money is evil andselling's evil and just afraid
of, like, who I would be if Iwas a person that sold and I had
(03:31):
to work through that.
And then, I'm not qualified.
Like, who can I actually help?
Like, okay, I got thiscertification and I helped some
people for free, but, I'm amess.
So a lot to work through andthen fear of success and either
becoming a terrible person orbeing rejected for my sisters.
And they're really my onlyfamily.
So it was so much to go throughand, um, I think that's one of
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the major things that arestopping people is their fears
and it comes in the form ofexcuses a lot of times, and just
being real with yourself aboutyour fears I think is a really
powerful thing to just help youstart and to help you keep
going.
So.
Along the way a lot of fearsthat I had to consistently
address and realize.
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Oh, I'm procrastinating.
What's really going on?
Like I'm not doing the things ortook me a long time to realize I
was doing a ton of busy workWhich is just fears of not
actually putting myself outthere when I was starting out,
especially Sometimes I can getinto it.
I can recognize the pattern alot faster but it was a long
time of constant busy workbefore I was like Like someone
(04:37):
had to tell me um, I think itwas a seminar or something.
They're like, yeah, are youdoing work that will actually
serve clients?
Are you just doing busy work?
I was like, Oh, that's me.
So there's a lot going into it.
Fears are a huge, huge componentand, uh, recognizing and
normalizing it.
It's a thing to be consistentlyrecognizing and working through
is a powerful thing to kind of,and then to start, I think
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having a powerful reason whythat's beyond yourself.
Tapping into that and thenreminding yourself of it.
I think that's really powerfulfor starting and for keeping
going.
And then your belief in yourselfas well.
I think that's a huge, hugething.
I was sitting down and thinkingabout what things really helped
me keep going.
And.
Start and everything.
And those, like those thingswere really powerful.
(05:24):
Definitely.
I mean, I think those fears thatyou're just naming are so
relatable to a lot of people andit prevents people from getting
started.
Um, but it's so funny when youwere talking about the busy
work, I swear I've said thislike five times already this
week when people are asking me,what are you, like, what have
you been up to?
I'm like, I'm so busy, so busy,but it's like, what am I doing
so I'm like, that awarenessthat, okay, like, yeah, you are
(05:47):
busy.
Sure.
But is it things that are movingthe needle?
So I think that awareness is soimportant and I'm glad that you
brought that up so the time thatyou decided that you wanted to
start your business at the timethat you actually launched your
business, I know things that youhad just mentioned about, um,
Just having like accountabilityand support like who do you
reach out to like who are thepeople that you lean on for
(06:09):
supporter to hold youaccountable like where do you
find the people.
So that's actually reallychallenging I know it's not
really accessible to everybodybut coaches and mentors.
Uh, really powerful for me andeven I noticed, so I feel like
if I told myself the story thatI couldn't afford one, but then
realizing all the stuff I wasbuying on Amazon that I didn't
(06:32):
need and like all this kind ofstuff and like extra purchases
on Walmart that wereunnecessary.
So if you're in that boat, youcan probably find the money to
invest in this.
So this is really important to,um, cause there is really
nothing like it just.
her belief in me and her supportand her helping me decide
because I worked on a belief inmyself but I would go back and
(06:53):
forth between I think thiscrushing doubt I had all this
evidence I couldn't do it andthen I have to try to build
myself up no you can do it likeremember like what you know I'm
like no you can't do it and thedoubt was getting stronger and
stronger.
But she helped me make adecision that like, I'm going to
go until and I'm going to makethis happen.
I'm going to get paid to do thisthing that I love and it's going
to happen.
So that was a powerful shiftthat a coach helped me.
(07:14):
Um, so I would say doingYouTubes and books and podcasts,
if you don't have that and thenin Facebook groups, I think it
can be kind of a challenge tofind, but there's a lot of
people looking foraccountability partners, but
knowing that it may take a few,um, There are a bunch of tries
to get someone who's actuallygoing to show up for it.
I've found that sometimes peoplesay they're going to show up
(07:35):
for, uh, things likeaccountability and they don't
always do.
So trying to find a match with apartner if you really need to go
the free route, but being honestwith yourself.
As far as like, if you're goingto make this a priority, if you
can find a way to kind of findthe money to invest in a coach,
a mentor who has testimonialsand also matches you on an
energetic levels, a reallypowerful support system to help
(07:57):
you get started and to keepgoing.
So I would say for sure, lovethose suggestions because it's
both like, if you have thefinancial means, then definitely
coaching is a great option.
And then the free resources to Ifeel like when I think about
social media, I'm kind of like,sometimes I go to the negative
side of social media and, uh,I'm like, this is actually a
(08:21):
really powerful resource ifyou're using it effectively, you
know?
So finding those supports, likethe support groups, like you're
saying on Facebook but yeah, Imean there's so many free
resources, YouTube, podcasting,you know, PO podcasting, like
what we're doing right now, likeyou're listening right now.
So kudos to you.
Great job, it's a cool place tobe.
I like YouTube better if youhave to, if you wanna like
(08:43):
actually learn from people andget inspired and kind of like
really reignite your belief andget some tools and tips and
stuff.
Because I feel like with theother socials, the negative side
with you can get sucked in andit gets.
For me, anyway, more intensewith the addiction side of
things to the scrolling and thisand that with the other ones.
But YouTube, I can like go thereand just learn things and get my
(09:06):
notebook out and like just, andI can leave without like so much
willpower.
Um, so yeah, if you want to leantowards one of them, I think
YouTube is a great.
That's a great idea.
Uh, because that infinitescroll, I mean, you could just
go on and on and I catch myselfsometimes where I'm going on for
something specific and thensomething catches my eye and
then 10 hours later.
(09:26):
I'm like, Oh, what am I stilldoing?
Yeah, I put the timers on.
Oh, timers are great too.
I love that.
Yes.
I have it in the app too.
I didn't know that.
So it actually like interruptsyour scroll.
Yeah.
I didn't know that, but Facebookand Instagram, I have them both.
Even if I snooze them, I'm stillon there way less time than if I
had nothing on there.
So highly recommend that one aswell.
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I love it.
That's awesome.
What are some ways that peoplecan build resilience and
confidence?
Cause I know obviously theconfidence comes within time,
but do you have anything thatyou typically will suggest in
your keynotes or something thatcan help people build that
resilience and confidence?
Yeah, um, I think they can goalong with each other.
(10:11):
The confidence, like probably alot of people say, and like you
were kind of alluding to, likeit really does come, you do it
and then you gain betterconfidence and you kind of tell
your nervous system and bodylike, hey, this is safe and I
can do it and without dying andit's okay.
And then also you literallybuild your skills and get better
at it.
But I think there's anotherpiece to confidence and it also
(10:33):
goes in with.
Helping you keep going andhaving that resilience Part of
that I think is confidence.
They really sat down and when Iwas writing my main signature
talk I was like what reallyhelped me keep going and I was
mentioning earlier about likebeliefs and fears and um a
strong reason beyond yourself.
(10:55):
So those are the three mainthings and there's other ways,
so I think confidence is part ofthe building resilience and
keeping going.
So with building the confidence,I feel like we're kind of born
with it, but we have thesetraumas and we have these
experiences that, teach us orprove to us that we can't do
things and we're not a capableperson or, you know, sometimes
(11:16):
worse.
Like, I really struggled withfeelings of worthlessness.
I grew up believing that.
I heard that from my dad all thetime.
And so instead of necessarilytrying to build it, I think
first breaking down the evidencethat you have that you can't do
something or that you can'tfigure it out.
So like you get better by doingand you get the confidence, but
(11:37):
in building the ability and thebelief that you can figure it
out and that you can get betterand that you can build the
skills, what's in the way ofthat?
And kind of.
Breaking down what's in the wayof that.
Like, Oh, well, I'm worthlessbecause I heard it all my life
and my dad said it.
So it's like, probably true.
And then it's like, well, isthat true?
And kind of really questioningthat?
Like, well, no, he hadschizophrenia.
(11:58):
He had this severe mentalillness.
He had all this rage and he wasabused and he's taking his stuff
out on me.
And, you know, so then it'slike, does it make sense?
And it's like, I lost all thesejobs and I, um, I don't know.
I failed a test in school andalmost didn't graduate and then
I'm like stupid and I'mincapable of doing things.
It's like, well, I believed Icouldn't do it.
(12:19):
So that became true.
So it's like, how is that anyevidence?
So when you start to break apartall this evidence and actually
like write out and name thethings, what makes me think I
can't do it and like write itout and look for all the things
and just name all the thingsthat pop up and then kind of BS,
like break those things apart.
Like, does this necessarily meanthat?
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And if you're too close to it,you can ask it.
If somebody else had this list,would you think it meant that
they can't do these things orthey can't figure them out?
So I think that's a reallypowerful way to kind of release
the constraints.
You have the things in the wayof you actually being able to
build the confidence.
And then it allows it to flowmuch better, and then you can
more readily tell yourself ortake in the information when
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people say you can do it.
And, whether the podcasts andthe books or you telling
yourself, you can more easilybelieve it when that kind of
stuff is at least true.
out of the way.
I mean, it's like a work inprogress to remind yourself
because doubts come up all thetime and stuff like that.
But, I think that's a powerfulthing.
And I think when you believe inyourself and your ability to
figure out whatever it is, I'llfind a way, I'll get through
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this, I'm strong, I'm capable,or building the resilience in
that and having the confidencein yourself in that respect and
then, I'm going to do thisbecause I'm going to go until
I'm going to figure it out.
Your fears are a huge thing.
So really continually addressingthem and realizing them and.
Being okay with them and kind ofcreating safety along the way
(13:44):
with it.
Like, you know, I'm, this isn'tgonna kill me, even though it
feels incredibly painful and Ican handle this and you know, it
really goes hand in hand withthe beliefs and stuff too.
And then like a reason beyondyourself to keep going on either
your mission or like just inlife in general.
Whether people that are countingon you in this business mission
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that you're gonna serve, thatare like past you, that you're
gonna help and really transformtheir lives, and they're going
to be counting on you.
Or you're gonna this safety netof like money for your kids, or
you're gonna have this money tobuild this beautiful foundation
to make a huge impact on thesepeople's lives, something beyond
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yourself to keep you goingthrough really hard challenging
life and hard challenging roadto going after this mission of
yours.
So I think those are powerfulresilience building.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel like you're just speakingstraight to me.
I mean, like what I think aboutwhen you're saying this.
So I feel like for many people,it starts with the why, like
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everyone has a goal or they havesomething that they want to
accomplish or do in life.
So figuring out what your why islike, why do you want to do
that?
You know, what does that mean toyou?
And then not stopping therebecause like you're describing,
there's a lot of feeling thatcomes along with it too.
So what really pushes peoplethrough is the feeling, like,
how do I want to feel once Iaccomplish this?
But.
To get to that, you have to kindof back up like take a few steps
(15:10):
back and see like what'spreventing you from doing that
and looking into maybe somepeople it's childhood trauma or
it's even just doesn't even haveto be trauma.
But having some accountabilityand some skin in the game to
where like you're saying peopleare counting on you to So, you
know, deliver what you're sayingthat you're going to deliver.
And I just think that that'sreally great.
And I think that that's helpedme along the way too, and the
(15:32):
work that I've done, to get towhere I am too.
So I think that, like you'resaying, it really is powerful to
look at those things and justbuild resilience that way.
So that's great.
I love that.
So I think I know what you'regoing to say to this, but I just
want to be very clear.
Do you feel like someone'smindset is really preventing
them from starting buildingtheir business?
(15:54):
Yes, I for sure.
Yeah.
You probably guessed, right.
I'm sure that's what you thoughtI was going to say.
Um, I know from personalexperience and I did invest in
all these courses.
I did like a bunch of free stuffand then I started investing
heavily money into all theseseminars and coaches and
(16:16):
everything.
So I had all the skills and Ihad multiple ways of being able
to get these outcome, likeactually serve these paying
clients.
Initially I was doing one on onecoaching.
Now I'm focusing on speaking,but like I had all the actual
resources to do it and thesupport and everything.
But until I got honest about mymindset stuff, I mean, three and
(16:37):
a half years to serve a payingclient.
Some people may relate, but mostpeople are usually like, whoa,
or anywhere in between that.
But it was a lot.
And then took me like threeyears to be like, no mindset has
to be a consistent focus.
And I love what my one coachsaid.
I found this one like beautifulmatch coach and really powerful,
(16:58):
um, help that she.
Provided for me, but she waslike, mindset is your full time
job.
Your business is your sidehustle.
And I thought that was so coolbecause it's so true because all
the fears, all the humanness, Imean, to build something and to
start it and to go after it.
It's really like, it's againstour humanness or like our basic,
(17:22):
natural instincts of survivaland comfort and steadiness.
So like the unknown and like,and like I said, the fears of
rejection and the failure andthe unknown and success and
putting ourselves out there andnot being accepted in the, you
know, belonging in the tribe,ancient survival stuff.
So it's really, reallychallenging.
(17:43):
So it's a huge thing.
And on top of that, there's, um,chat, GBT and YouTube and all
these free resources on manyways, different people were able
to succeed at the thing you wantto succeed at or free, you can
get these things.
So the mindset is like the huge.
differentiator between like youhave all these resources and
actually being able to applythem on a consistent basis.
(18:05):
So yes, I very much think thatmindset is a huge component and
strategy definitely isimportant.
Like it's not something to beignored, but it's more readily
available and mindset is morepersonal and challenging and
hard.
You have to get ask yourself thehard questions and yeah, so it's
(18:27):
more.
Challenging.
I love the way this, the quotethat you had just said.
It was your full time job isyour mindset.
And then your side hustle isyour business.
Is that what it was?
Yeah.
But one of my favorite quotes isWork harder on yourself than you
do on your job, which that'ssomething that I live by because
obviously if you are in a goodplace and you're healthy and
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happy with where you are inlife, then it's going to show in
every other area of your life,you know, but some people will
try it.
They're all in everything intotheir job, but then at the end
of the day, it's like, you stillhave to go home to yourself, you
know, and it's if people canbreak through and really put
that, um, time in and work intothe, their selves, but I love
that.
That was just a different way ofkind of looking at it, but kind
(19:11):
of saying the same thing, but Ilove that.
Um, so For me, I think this issomething and I think it's
pretty relatable for a lot ofpeople when you get into that
dip.
So when you're startingsomething and it's so exciting
at first and you have all thisadrenaline and motivation to
keep going, but when it getstough and there's a dip because
there's pretty much always goingto be a dip.
(19:32):
I have not talked to anyone whothere's, there's not been a dip
or a loss in like momentum andwhat they're doing.
What do you think could behelpful for those people to keep
going?
I mean, I think the stuff thatwe were talking about, like
having that compelling why andconsistently working on your
fears and, making that decision,like you believe in yourself,
(19:53):
but then making a decision,like, I'm going to go until I
like mentioned that, but that'sa really powerful shift there
because then it, it kind ofquiets the doubts because the
doubts will come in and it'slike, Yeah, but I already made
this full on decision that I'mgoing to go until so that's
powerful.
And I think reminding yourselfof your why because I remember I
(20:13):
tapped into a powerful why butthen I didn't read it and then
life happened and doubts andFailures and showing up
consistently and nothing likenot even prospective clients on
the horizon, like just sofrustrating, just nonstop
continuing to go with no resultsor no, like hope of anything
happening ever and just massiveamounts of time and energy and
(20:36):
I'm like, I'm trying everythingand I'm paying all the money and
doing all the things.
I tried everything and I toldmyself, so it was a lot.
It was really frustrating.
So definitely the powerful whyhad like many breakdowns when I
wasn't reminding myself of thatwhy, but then I thankfully would
remember it when I reallystarted reading every day.
I think that's a really powerfulthing.
And then, yeah, your mindset atthe forefront and recognizing
(20:58):
it's a thing and thennormalizing that process, I
think is a really powerful thingto remember.
Like, it's not like you only seelike the good stuff on socials.
Like you don't see all the backend stuff or the years of
learning and pain and peoplethankfully are open about that.
They had breakdowns too.
I'm like, Oh yeah, I'm not theonly one like crying kids and
(21:20):
breakdowns and stuff along theway.
Like it's really hard.
So.
Um, normalizing and tellingyourself, reminding yourself
that it's hard and it's aprocess and doesn't mean I'm
screwed up, incapable, doinganything wrong if it's taking a
long time and if it's reallyhard and just because I'm
showing up knowing that there'slike a, I was googling and it
was like a, Longer than Ithought, because my coach
(21:43):
initially told me that it shouldtake about like three months to
start getting traction, maybesix months of like consistently
showing up.
But Google was saying, I thinklike 12 months for marketing to
start really working.
So I think it just takes a lotlonger because you hear like,
you know, 10k in 90 days, butmaybe that's their fifth
business.
You know, or maybe they grew upwith business owners and maybe
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they don't have the traumas thatyou have, or maybe they don't
have the mindset hangups andselling and, and, and any, and,
and, you know, the insecuritiesthat you have, like whatever
kind of thing.
So just, um, normalizing thatit's hard.
And just because you're seeingit look and feel easy for other
people doesn't mean they're notstruggling to, um, I think that
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could help with the keep goingso just to give an example of
what I have been dealing withjust on topic of what we're
talking about here is.
It was almost a year ago.
I think in September I hadbought a course on building
digital courses.
It was an Amy Porterfieldcourse.
So I bought this course and I'mlike, I'm going to build a
digital course, and it took, I'mlike, okay, well, I don't even
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know what I want to talk about.
Like, what is the course goingto be on?
You know?
So it took me a while to figureout like what I even wanted to
do.
And I've been saying, I'm goingto build a course since then.
So it's almost been a year and Ihave not built this dang course
yet.
So I keep saying, I'm going tobuild, I'm going to build it.
So I've been telling peoplerecently, like, I know why I
haven't built it.
It's because of the tech.
Like, I'm just, I'm no good attech.
I suck at tech.
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That is so surface level.
That is not the, like, yes, it'sgoing to be challenging and it's
going to be hard, but that is sosurface that is not, that is not
what's holding me back.
A big thing is I have this.
Negative core belief that I'mnot smart enough.
That has been mine for so long,like back to childhood, you
know, that has been a story thatI've told myself for so long.
Um, so that's something havingthat awareness of what your
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negative core belief is, is soimportant to keep working
through and like, I'm telling,like I'm saying right now, even
though I know what that is, it'sjust, you consistently have to
put in the work to work through,like, trying to rebuild or just
break it down, you know, rebuildwhat that negative core belief
is into a more positive belief,because That's just to give
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perspective to people like thishas been almost 12, 12 months of
me like talking about this dangcourse and I still haven't built
it, but I am going to build it.
I will build it and I am soaringenough.
So just so people know that thisis, this is very common and it's
very relatable for anyone.
I mean, I'm a psychiatric nursepractitioner.
I am very passionate aboutmental health.
I think mindset is a huge thing,you know, so even professionals
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or anyone who's high achieving,there's so many people out there
who are just struggling withvery, very common things.
So to feel not good enough, Ithink it is relatable, but you,
you are good enough.
You are very much anyone who'slistening to this.
You have a goal, you havesomething that you want to do.
You absolutely are good enough.
Mary, you are good enough.
We are all good enough.
I think that you have offered somany valuable tips.
to people to try to work throughthose things.
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You're an incredible speaker.
Um, so tell us where people canfind you and, you know, if they
want to work with you, if theywant to book you, like, let us
know where we can connect withyou.
Awesome.
Yeah.
Um, you can go to my Instagram.
Mary E.
Speaks.
It's M A R Y E, like Eric, um,speaks.
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com.
Oh, sorry.
That's, uh, dot com's mywebsite.
M A R Y E speaks dot com is mywebsite if you want to check it
out and, um, book a conversationwith me if you can speak about,
if you want to.
Think about hiring me to speakand, um, you could DM me on
social.
So I G is just at Mary E speaksthat, uh, yeah, I don't know.
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I keep saying that.
That's okay.
Cause I'll put, I'll put it inthe show notes too.
Then Facebook is Mary E Marco EM M A R C O is my last name.
And yeah, either one of those,you can DM me and check me out
check Mary out.
She's incredible.
She's amazing.
You, you truly are, and you'regoing to help so many people.
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I love your energy and justbeing able to be in your
presence.
It's just so powerful and sogreat.
And I appreciate you so much.
Um, before we go though, I liketo ask just some fun questions.
So what is your favorite quote?
Well, I like that mindset onethat we talked about, but
actually I like the one, um,it's not the number of breaths
you take, but the moments thattake your breath away.
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I love that one too.
That is so good.
And what's your favorite book?
Um, so it's challenging becauseI really love a lot of books,
but I'm pretty sure.
So when I always go back to, uh,psycho cybernetics, it's, um,
Maxwell malts.
It's like, I feel so empoweredand it's so incredible.
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Every time I read it reallyteaches you the power of the
unconscious and that how we canuse it and it's not that, you
know, we're not enough.
It's just that we're just usingour programming wrong.
We're programming in like afailure mechanism and we could
just set it up for success.
It's just really cool the way hedoes that.
And then he's got this powerfulthing on forgiveness and I've
never heard anybody say before,uh, forgiveness, like, some hard
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truths.
you want to feel morallysuperior, so maybe you're
holding on to resentment andnot, uh, forgiving.
And then, um, knowing thatthey're doing their best, um,
always, so they never reallydeserve to be condoned for what
they did in the first place.
It's like, but yeah, it reallyis powerful and true and helped
me really.
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I tapped into forgiveness andkind of let go of some of my
past stuff.
And yeah, so powerful.
I'm going to check that outbecause I love, I just love when
someone recommends a book,especially if it's touched their
lives the way that you're, Imean, you're speaking very
passionately about it.
I'm like, I got to read thisbook.
So thank you for sharing that.
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Yeah.
Okay.
So thank you so much, Mary.
I appreciate you and give her afollow check her website at
website.
I can talk website out.
She's an amazing person.
Amazing speaker.
So I hope everyone has anincredible week weekend whenever
you're listening to this and Iwill see you next week.
Thank you so much for joining meon this episode of landing
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imperfect.
I truly appreciate you being apart of this community and
sharing this journey with me.
If you do want to connectfurther, then don't hesitate to
follow me on Instagram at Jendot Lander.
I would love to hear yourthoughts, any questions or any
stories that you want to share.
So, DME there, I also have awebsite.
It's a landing and perfectwebsite where I share a blog
post about my podcast, and thenyou can join my email list.
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I have a PDF that providesanxiety and stress management
tools that you can.
And use as well when you join myemail list.
So check it out.
My website will be linked in myshow notes.
So don't hesitate to reach
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