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Her deep understanding ofmovement led her to develop the
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radical embodiment method.
This is a transformativeapproach that utilizes movement,
coaching, energy clearing, andvisualization.
Her signature four step processof reflect, release, re-envision
and redesign invites theawareness of thoughts and
beliefs that live in the mindand body to surface so that they
could be reconciled andreleased.
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Her workshops, support artists,creators, and people just
seeking a more purposeful andconscious life with an
impressive background in bothcoaching and dance.
Amy brings a unique and dynamicapproach to her work, and I am
so excited for you guys to tuneinto this conversation.
So let's get started.
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Okay.
So for the woman who feels likethey have to hold it all
together, be everything foreveryone, how can turning inward
and connecting to somethinggreater actually bring her more
peace and power?
Yes.
Thank you for that question.
Mm-hmm.
So it's interesting, uh, when wemove towards transformation,
when we want something new, whenwe want something different, the
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first step is awareness.
We must all become aware of ourhabits, our what we've been
doing.
How we've been living our life,and also to become aware that
we've been conditioned, we'vebeen conditioned to take care of
everyone else.
We've been conditioned to worryabout everyone else, whether
it's our friends, whether it'suh, our, our grades, whether
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it's our husbands, our wives,our children, all this energy
flowing outward.
Right.
Taking care of everyone.
Yes.
When you look inward, when youslow down, when you begin to
really come to you know yourtruth and what you truly desire,
when you start going, you knowwhat?
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I really don't wanna do thisanymore.
I wanna find somethingdifferent.
When you turn inwards and youactually start listening to
yourself, many.
Of us for like the first time inour lives when we, when we
really decide what we trulydesire, that's when we become
very peaceful actually.
And we become peaceful becausefinally we're listening to
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ourselves.
Right.
We're getting grounded in who weare.
We're reflecting on our, what wetruly desire instead of moving
fast and just going, going,going, fixing, fixing, fixing.
Right?
Mm-hmm.
And many of us get into thatmode of we have to control
everybody and we have to fixeverybody.
I mean, talk about, uh, conflictof self because people are gonna
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do whatever they're gonna doanyway.
So it's a futile, thing to takeon.
What actually brings more peaceis to take yourself on, to
figure yourself out.
I think that that's such a goodpoint too.
'cause I like how you brought upawareness as like that first
step because I, I do believethat a lot of people out there,
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a lot of women.
Have a lot of anxiety, a lot ofstress, all of these things that
are piling up and they are notfully aware of where that's
coming from, you know?
So just having that awareness oflike, maybe it is you want
something different or deeper ormore purposeful in your life
instead of that.
Mundane, like just day-to-daykind of tasks, you know, that
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you're just kind of checking offthe list.
So that awareness of like, maybethere is something deeper there,
I think that is such animportant start.
So I, I love that.
That's, that's where you begin,and you developed this
fascinating approach called theradical embodiment method.
Could you tell us a little bitmore about what that all entails
and how movement plays a role inthis inner transformation as
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well?
So, yeah, it's interesting'causeuh, when you say awareness,
awareness, um, we have to beaware that we were not taught
how to have a relationship withourselves, right?
Mm-hmm.
And that means we've been toldthat we're not good enough, we
have to work harder.
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Our body's not perfect.
We always have to, you know, gofor the diet, go for the guide,
try to shape change.
Try to fix, try.
We are so like enrolled in thesehabits and I call, I'm gonna
call them habits because they'rejust kind of things we've been
doing.
Mm-hmm.
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Right?
And so the radical embodimentmethod, what it does, it
actually slows you down.
So in that, the first step isreflection.
So the reflection allows you toslow down enough to become aware
of your beliefs, to become awareof your habits, because
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oftentimes we'll gloss throughthem or we'll make excuses for
them.
So in the first step ofreflection, you actually.
We take everything, slow itdown, put it to some meditation,
music, and really get into self,get into the body, right?
Mm-hmm.
And so from there, um, is whenyou really start discovering
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what you believe and if youwanna believe it anymore, right?
Because we all get to choosewhat we believe.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
We get to choose if we believethat we can't do something.
Or if we can do something right?
Mm-hmm.
It's actually a choice.
Yes.
Right?
Mm-hmm.
So to slow down and to even takethat in, like actually my life
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is all about choices.
And so with that is thereflection, and then it's the
release.
We must release.
The second step is releasing.
So we must release these beliefsthat we have, that we must do
everything for everyone else,that we must control everyone
else, that we're not goodenough, that we have trauma in
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our childhood, that, that wecan't because we're, we're
injured in some manner.
And so we must release thoserelated beliefs because as we
are becoming aware without therelease of those old beliefs.
It's like you keep, you know,you keep trying to move forward,
but you're stuck.
Mm-hmm.
There's always that beliefpulling you back, pulling you
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back into your, into your oldmindset, old habits, and then
from there you need to have avision.
I'm a big vision person.
We must look at something andwant something and then create a
vision around that desirebecause we're so stuck in our
life.
We're stuck in our ownperspective, and our perspective
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is at eye level.
And until we open up our brainsand use our imagination and
start desiring more and startthinking about more and start
like, oh my God.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
And that's where the movementcomes in because it is not a
brain thing, it's an embodimentthing.
Our body has to be on board withour mind, just like our mind has
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to be on board with our body.
Yes.
Yes.
And since we were taught ourbody was not enough, there's
something wrong with our body.
Right?
We have to reconcile thatmisunderstanding.
Mm-hmm.
Because our, we will be in apain body.
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So the movement helps reallyrelease that, right?
It really helps you release, uh,so that you can have the
freedom.
To want more, to use yourimagination and to let go of
these things that are notserving you.
And then of course, there's theredesign where we get to
recreate a new life.
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Recreate new habits.
Yeah.
Yeah.
With the, with the movement, howdo you help kind of guide them
through that piece?
Um,'cause I know there's lots ofthings out there.
Um, but for you, do you have aspecific go-to or is it kind of
like you give recommendationsand it's like whatever feels
good to you, kind of just toengage more in that?
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Yeah.
So there's different types, butfrom, uh, for me it's basically.
They get to move the way theywanna move.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
Yeah.
Um, sometimes when I do moreworkshopy stuff, uh, when I work
with dancers and it's somethingdifferent.
Mm-hmm.
But with like regular people,they just wanna move their body.
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Right?
Yeah.
And even that's enough.
That's enough because mm-hmm.
We also do body checks.
We get like, where's, you know,where is it living in your body?
Because every thought you havelives in your body, so mm-hmm.
Where is that thought living inyour body?
We'll go in there, put energyaround it, release it, expand
it.
Yeah.
Listen to it, you know, it's awhole like curiosity,
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discovering, uh, really gettingback into your body.
Yeah, so for me, like I'vealways been someone who, well,
in school I was an athlete, soI, I loved movement in that way,
and then I continued that intomy adulthood as well.
And I was always kind of like,that was my go-to kind of thing,
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to just kind of move my body inthat way.
Whether it was running orlifting or swimming or any of
those things, you know.
But what I have recently foundis for me, I hold a lot of my
tension in my chest area andlike shoulders, chest.
So what has been the mosthelpful for me to get that
movement is actually breathwork.
So that has been the movementthat has made the biggest
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difference in my life, which issomething I never would've
thought of, like.
Years ago, even just probablytwo years ago.
Um, so I love the idea of justlike, whatever feels good in
your body too, you know, andjust kind of exploring that a
little bit more.
Um, but there's so manydifferent ways to definitely
have that movement and, and getthat energy kind of moving and
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flowing and stuff.
So.
I love that you're connectingthe two like mind and body
connection too.
It's so important.
And you had mentioned a littlebit about perfectionism So as we
both know, that can paralyzecreativity and just kind of
stunt growth a lot.
So what are some radical waysthat you help women break free
from that myth of having to getit right before they start?
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Again, it's the recognition thatmm-hmm.
We've been conditioned to thinka certain way.
Yeah.
And perfectionism is somethingthat women carry with them.
Mm-hmm.
So they're supposed to be theperfect mom, the perfect wife,
the perfect child, the perfect,employee, right?
So we have all theseexpectations around us to be
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perfect.
Not to make a mistake.
And I swear women aretraumatized by simple mistakes.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
I mean, I used to make a mistakeand I just like tossed and turn
all night thinking about themistake.
How?
Yes.
Yes.
And it's so paralyzing forwomen.
Mm-hmm.
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And you know, I didn't realizehow perfection was so
detrimental to me as a woman, asan artist.
In relationships, anything.
I didn't realize how detrimentalit was, but it was so bad that,
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um, the pain of it is real.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
The physical pain of having tobe perfect is real.
And so all of us need to just,really give ourselves a break.
The slowing down, the slowingdown.
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Going into this understandingthat we're not here to be
perfect.
Mm-hmm.
We're here to explore life.
We're here to have an adventure.
We're here to be passionate, tobe creative.
We're here as creators.
This is what we're here for.
Right?
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Yes, yes, yes.
This is it.
And we have to shift our mindsetaround, why we're here.
On this earth.
Mm-hmm.
And everyone should have aphilosophy about why they're
here.
Right?
Why are you here?
What's your purpose?
What do you want your life tofeel like?
Be like, what's your mantra,mm-hmm.
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My mantra is like, really havean adventure.
Enjoy it, be grateful, have apeaceful life.
And to do all that, I had to letgo of perfection because it was
so damaging to my soul.
To my creativity, uh, becauseit, it was just like this thing
that was always in front of myheart.
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It perfection sat right in frontof my heart.
So I couldn't open my heart toallow for love for creativity.
And I also, I think theperfection thing was knowing
that, uh, you know, I grew upatheist, so.
When I became spiritual in 2001,I started my spiritual journey
around that and just opening upmy crown, embodying love, pure
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love from mother God, God,universe, whatever you wanna
call it, and accepting that purelove and being a child of God,
mother God, and that I amperfect as is.
Mm-hmm.
And allowing the pink lightgoing through my crown all down
through my chakras and embodyingthat I.
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And allowing and knowing that nomatter what I do, I am loved
unconditionally.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And that really helped me breakthrough my perfection.
Yeah.
There are countless, countlesswomen who do not believe that
they deserve love, and that isso heartbreaking.
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Um, so I do.
Love the work that you do tohelp women understand that they
can be loved unconditionally andthey deserve to be loved
unconditionally and it, and tolove themselves as well.
Not just it come from anyoneelse or, you know.
So, um, what do you think thedeeper wound is underneath
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perfectionism that most peopledon't talk about?
Well, it's rejection.
Hmm.
I mean, how many times were werejected?
Told You're too loud told, youknow, I mean, admonished
embarrassed, but it's also builtinto our system.
Mm-hmm.
You know, it's on tv, it's oncommercials, it's so, it's
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really built into our system.
And so, for me it was about,having to prove.
My worth.
Mm-hmm.
It was about being an atheistand have nothing to give it away
to, I was responsible foreverything.
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Mm-hmm.
It was about a father wound.
I had to heal.
He's, you know, was very hard,very black and white, uh,
atheist, very like, you know,just, yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
And also the mother wound, mymother wound, of which I had to
reconcile.
So, um, there's a lot ofwounding behind perfectionism,
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mm-hmm.
Especially as you're beingjudged as a child.
It's a deep wounding for us, youknow?
And we're always trying toprove, trying to prove, trying
to be perfect, trying to beperfect mm-hmm.
In our own endeavors, to somehowbe good enough.
Yeah.
That's the what, that's what thefight is for.
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Mm-hmm.
Right?
Yeah.
But it, it sabotages you though.
It, you self-sabotage withperfection.
That is so true.
I can relate deeply to that.
Um, and for me as a, as a kid, Ijust, I remember often feeling
not good enough.
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Um, I had.
Undiagnosed and untreated A DHD,and I would just kind of really
struggle through that.
So not only did I have a hardtime in school, but it also
impacted my emotions.
So I felt very dysregulatedoften, and for my parents, I
kinda, I feel for them in a waybecause I was a very emotional
child.
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So I think that that can be hardto raise a child like that
sometimes.
Um, especially when they don'tknow what's going on as well as
parents, you just try to do thebest you can.
Most of them, you know, that's.
The hope, right?
That like parents are trying todo the best they can.
Um, and I definitely did haveparents who, who did try the
best that they could.
So, because of all of that andall the dysregulation that I was
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going through and not feelinggood enough, I absolutely
understand that like rejectionpiece too, because I.
I felt like there was a piece ofme that didn't always fit in
socially as well.
And then having that rejectionand kids are so egocentric and
feeling like everything is me,me, me, and that's all they're
thinking about, not realizing,no, you know, actually that
response that you got from thatadult was their problem.
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Like they were going throughsomething too, you know?
So it's really hard for kids to,to kind of.
Understand that and comprehendit.
They just don't have thecapacity to do it.
But unfortunately, those aredeep wounds that lead to those
core beliefs.
And then there's a lot ofhealing that has to be happen,
you know, as an adult.
So, um, which makes your work somuch more empowering and, and so
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amazing what you do, so, Whatdoes connecting to source look
like in real life, and how hasthat helped you release control
and perfectionism?
I.
I spoke about that a little bitbefore, but mm-hmm.
For me, it's um, you know,hooking up to mother God means
that I open up my crown rightand I allow universe to flow the
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pink energy into my crown, intomy third eye.
Throat, right.
Go down and to receive, I mean,just to receive that, that
unconditional love to receiveit.
Women have a hard timereceiving.
So we're kind of, uh, you know,pigeonholing ourselves into
this.
I want love, I wanna acceptthis, I want this thing, but
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we're not willing to receivebecause we're so busy putting
everything out to other people,right?
Yep.
Yep.
And so, learning how to receivethe love, right?
Mm-hmm.
When I let go of thatperfection, I got into.
Spiritual love into self-love,into the abundance of love,
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right?
Mm-hmm.
When I would, you know, usuallyI would get off stage and be, oh
my God, Amy, you're sobeautiful.
I felt nothing.
Yeah.
Because guess what?
I made two mistakes on stage.
Mm-hmm.
I felt nothing and I couldn'treceive.
I couldn't receive what peoplewere giving me, which was love.
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Right.
All of that is built aroundperfection.
All of that is built around notbeing able to receive and
thinking we're good enough asis.
And what it was, it was, and weexperienced something.
Yeah.
And so my spiritual, we do thatin, um, the radical embodiment
method.
We're always doing a chakraalignment.
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We're always breathing in likethe piece of, uh, we're bringing
in the pink of love, the blue ofpeace.
We're using these colors, thepurple of the high self.
To really get that energy in ourbody and allow that receiving of
it.
Mm-hmm.
Moving it, exploring it,allowing it to actually live in
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our body.
Right.
To practice that because we havea hard time receiving, you know?
Mm-hmm.
And now when someone says.
Amy, that was beautiful.
I can honestly look at them inthe eyes, feel their warmth and
say Thank you.
Yeah.
Instead of like, ah, it's no bigdeal.
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Yeah.
Let's see.
I know.
Oh my gosh.
And you can, well, I feel likeyou can really see that in
people too, like when they'rereally receiving what you're
giving to them versus likethey're kind of brushing it off
or their heart on themselves.
Like you can see it and you canfeel the energy too that's
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coming off of them when thathappens.
Um, I know, I think my energy ispretty.
Pretty strong.
Whether that's coming negativeor positively, like so people,
I'm not good at hiding myemotions, so it's pretty, they
can kind of tell even if I thinkI'm, you know, putting on a good
show.
I think it's, it's prettyobvious.
So is there any.
Like common aha moments thatyou're really seeing with the
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clients who, um, start to engagein your method.
Um, what are you seeing withthat?
Like what are their aha moments?
You know, it's interesting.
The aha moments are often howmuch they are living in fear,
how much they give their lifeaway.
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How much their childhood isaffecting their present moment
day.
Right.
And so these are really big ahamoments and we get to really
explore.
You know, the work I do is aboutan unfolding.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
I really want it to unfold.
I don't want it to be traumaticor hard.
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Which is why we go into thereflection, which is.
Everyone gets their own visionaround that reflection.
So whatever they're ready tohandle, they can, they handle
it.
Like I don't enforce anything onanyone that can't handle certain
things.
So that individual work withinthe group is how I learned, and
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I think it's a, you know, whereeveryone gets to discover their
own ideas, beliefs, and selves,and not be influenced by anyone
else.
Because we all have to work withour own mindset.
There is a collective mindset,around certain things like
perfection.
That's a really, it's, that's inthe collective, that's in our
space, in our universe, in ourlives, right?
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Mm-hmm.
And so we must be aware of thosecollective things, but how we
feel about it, how we look atit, how it's manifesting in our
life is individual, so thesewomen that I work with really
get to unfold and really get tofigure it out for themselves
with my guidance and with, thetechniques that I use.
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Mm-hmm.
Because we all have to beauthentic to ourselves.
That's what we're reallyyearning to do, is to be
ourselves, to be authentic, tofeel grounded in our life and
our world.
Yeah.
Right.
This is what we're all lookingfor.
Yeah.
And so.
And I said it's just amazingbecause women just don't have a
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relationship with ourselves.
We don't have that type oftrust, communication,
embodiment, intuition, uh, youknow, we don't really cultivate
that with ourselves.
Yeah.
For those who are feelingdisconnected from themselves,
and that's something greater.
What's one small step, oneactionable step that they could
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take today to begin that journeyInward.
Yeah.
They can sit quietly with self.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, you can ask yourselfquestions, what is going on that
I'm feeling?
So, um, disrupted about, orangry or lonely, right?
Mm-hmm.
You can sit with yourself whenyou sit with yourself and you
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ask those types of questions.
And it will, you most likelywill feel where that particular
feeling is living in your body.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
Because joy, loneliness,happiness, gratitude, they all
live in our body.
They don't live in the head,they live in our body.
Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
So when, when you do that andyou see, oh, like you said, Jen,
I have tension right here,right?
Mm-hmm.
I notice I have tension in thechest, right?
You can actually just go to goto that area and ask it for
questions like, what do youneed?
What do you need in this moment?
Yeah.
And it could be, I need love.
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I need you to see me.
I need support.
Right.
And so these area, believe it ornot, these areas, they will
speak to you.
Yeah.
They will tell you what theyneed.
Mm-hmm.
And so even just that littlestep.
And the other thing I would sayis.
A big one for me is radicalacceptance.
Yeah.
Where you fully accept whereyou're at.
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You're not trying to changeanything.
Yeah.
You fully accept thisrelationship sucks.
Mm-hmm.
And you say it, yeah.
You don't have to do anythingabout it at this moment, but you
have to be honest with yourself.
Mm-hmm.
We have to start being honestwith ourself because we have not
been honest with ourself.
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We've been trained not to behonest with ourselves, so just,
you know, like when I went backto college at 43 and I'm sitting
in a classroom with 18 yearolds, right?
Yes.
I had to radically accept thatmoment.
I'd be like, wow, that's a goodexample, right?
Yeah.
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To accept it.
If I did not accept it and Ifought it and was complaining
about it, then that's justdisruption.
There's no peace.
I had to sit there and be like,oh, okay.
This is where I'm at.
Yep.
Starting my life over.
My fiance passed away.
I'm starting my life over.
Mm-hmm.
Going back to college, gettingmy degree.
I'm sitting here with 18 yearolds.
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I had to radically accept that.
Yeah.
So I could find the joy.
Right.
Curiosity, joy, fun.
That's a really powerful skillto have to radically accept, um,
and to learn how, how to dothat.
Because I think a lot of peopledo fight against trying to
accept where they are or, oreven feel like that's not okay.
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Like they can't accept it forsome reason.
Like they feel like theyconstantly need to be changing
for growth.
And it's like, let's, likeyou're saying, slow down, like
just radically accept this iswhere we are and, and this is
okay in the moment, you know?
So, um, yeah, like that.
Well, I just wanna That one, Iwanna say one thing.
Yeah.
Because a lot of women say, Ididn't, I didn't think my life
was gonna end up this way.
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This is often what they say.
Yeah, I didn't think I would behere I didn't think I was ever
gonna get divorced.
I didn't think I would be here.
Right?
Mm-hmm.
And so that's the fight thatthey had a vision about what
they thought their life wasgonna be, and then they ended up
somewhere else.
Yeah.
Instead of, wow, I'm here.
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My husband just left.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Instead of going, I didn't knowmy life was gonna be like this.
I didn't think.
Well, he's gone.
Yeah.
Yes.
That's a tough one.
So.
Having support, I think is ahuge one.
And working with people likeyou, I think is a big one
because doing it alone is, is sohard.
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And no one should have to gothrough big life changes like
that all on by themselves.
And I think, like you're saying,a lot of women do kind of feel
like they have to take it all,all on themselves, you know?
So for anyone who does wannawork with you, where can they
find you?
Yeah, they can go to my, uh,website, um, amy shade.com or
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radical embodiment method.com.
I have a couple websites and,uh, you, I have all free
downloadables on there.
Also, for your audience to like,you know, do the radical
embodiment method.
There are, you know, there arereflections, there are chakra
clearings in the, uh, freegifts.
Yeah.
And we didn't mention on here,is this, is it more group work,
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individual work?
Both.
What do you do?
Yeah, I do both.
I do one-on-one work, and I alsohave a membership.
So the membership is, threeclasses a month, and then one
group coaching call a month.
So yeah, it's live classes, soyou, you're, and every class is
different, so I ask people theirwins and then we kind of create
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a theme for that.
Particular class based on whatpeople are going through.
So I don't come there like, witha preconceived, we're gonna do
this.
I kind of talk to the group andwe come, you know, so it's
really a, it really helps themwhere they're at in this moment.
I like working that way.
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I'm not much of a planner.
I'm like, let's see where thegroup is and then I'll make up a
reflection.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
I like that.
So before we wrap up, I alwayslike to ask this kinda maybe a
little random, maybe not soquestion to all my guests, but
what is your favorite book orbooks if you have any?
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I think my ultimate favoritewas, is Anna Corian.
That's like one of my, I lovethat book.
What's it called again?
Anna Corian.
Caria.
Carin.
Oh, okay.
What, what's that bad?
I haven't heard of it.
It's, um, a love story, atragedy where a married woman
falls in love with a soldier,single soldier and disrupts her
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whole life.
Yes.
I'm a in the search of anotherbook to read too, so I'm gonna
check this one out'cause that'sright up my alley too.
I like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's my, one of myfavorite books.
Yes.
Well, thank you.
Thank you.
Um, and just thank you for beinghere today too.
(30:08):
It was such an insightfulconversation, just so much good
information that you brought tous, so I really appreciate that.
But before we do wrap up, isthere anything else that you
wanna add or want to let anyoneknow?
Yeah, I think I just wanna giveone more, um, what really helped
me when my fiance passed away.
(30:28):
And or, and then I went on tocollege and I got my co
certification started.
My business and all of thesethings that I, this adventure
I'm on, I have this onespiritual lesson, which I always
use.
Mm-hmm.
Which is, you know, you arewhere you're supposed to be,
where's the lesson?
You know, how can you do betterand be better?
(30:50):
Yeah.
Right.
To get into like, I'm actuallywhere I'm supposed to be right
now.
What can I do?
To change my life.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
That's beautiful.
I think that's where some ofthat radical acceptance comes
into, like, right, like I'm, I'mwhere I'm supposed to be.
I'm gonna radically accept thatif I don't like it, and where
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can I go from here?
But yeah, I love that.
Yeah.
It's a surrendering, so you'resurrendering.
Yeah.
You're giving up the fight andthe control and you're actually
surrendering, which is whatwomen need to do to find peace
so they can make new decisions.
Yeah, I think a lot of womenprobably just had a panic attack
when you said give up control.
I know.
Yeah.
I know.
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It's so hard, but when you geton the other side of that, your
life changes.
Yes.
Yep.
You're right about that.
Absolutely.
All right, well, they're gonnafind you and do the work, so I'm
so excited for everyonelistening, and I'm just, I just
love the work that you do.
So thank you so much for beinghere.
I so appreciate you.
Um, and for everyone listening,I'll see you next time.
(31:58):
All right.
Thanks, Jen.
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