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Prepare yourself for a sensational journey into the creepy world of the paranormal and possessions. Discover the captivating tales of Roland Doe, the real-life inspiration behind the movie, The Exorcist, and the unnerving tale of the infamous Annabelle doll. This intriguing exploration will make you question the existence of evil and the potential psychological aspects tied to these eerie incidents. Along with a hearty discussion on the inherent risks of meddling with Ouija boards, we delve into the notion of possession, which is bound to send shivers down your spine.

Ever wondered if an object you hold dear could become a vessel for an evil presence? Or if the essence of an individual could linger on an object long after they're gone? Well, that's exactly what we explore, bringing you a hair-raising tale about a friend's mother who encountered unexplainable experiences. And in a lighter vein, we chat about the objects we'd choose to possess if we had the power, throwing in a good mix of humor to balance the terrifying.

Brace yourself for an episode that's sure to leave you with plenty to ponder if you're a fan of the supernatural. So, buckle up, relax, and get ready to be captivated!

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is Latina's State of Mind, a podcast created
by Latinas for all audiences,where we can share our
experiences about love, life andeverything.
Hello, hello and welcome toanother episode of Latina's

(00:33):
State of Mind.
We're talking about a scarytopic again.
To end the month right.
To end the best month, right.

(00:53):
Okay, the second best month,Third fourth we're going to talk
about possessions.
Why, spooky, do you guysbelieve in them?

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Not really Really.
I can't say for sure no, but Ican't say for sure yes.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Okay, I feel like that's where I'm at too, but I
feel like if there is good inthe world, there has to be bad
or evil as well.
So I'm leaning towards.
Yes, I feel like there has tobe something.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
You bring up a good point because there's like
there's a balance and it's agood and a bad balance.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, what about you?

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, I think they totally do Like I, so believe
that they do exist.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
I think it's different than what the movies,
my display, but I think thatthere's definitely, definitely,
there's definitely a differencein the portrayal in Hollywood or
whatever, yeah, from thereality.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, wow.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
But let's talk about one of the most like infamous
possession stories there are outthere.
Diana's going to lead us in andtell us a little bit about it.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, so this story is going to be about Roland Doe.
It's based on a true story.
The exorcist through story isbased on the experience of
Roland Doe, as mentioned inMarch 1949.
Newspapers reported that a 14year old boy known as Robbie or
Roland Doe was possessed bysomething sinister and that the

(02:31):
exorcist priests performed anexorcism on him.
The boy was raised in a GermanLutheran family and he was no
stranger to paranormal things inlife.
After asking for a Ouija boardfor his birthday, his aunt
Harriet gifted him one.
After she passed away, the boybegan to experience creepy and
abnormal things around the houseRattling on the wall, strange

(02:55):
noises and flying objects.
The exorcist recreates many ofthese events in hidden details.
Since the exorcist is based on atrue story, many of the events
that Roland and his familyexperienced end up in the film.
After the death of his aunt,roland's family tried to contact
her, but this led to scratchesall over Roland's body and bed.

(03:16):
Neither moving nor an impromptuCatholic baptism sent Roland
into an unbridled rage.
Change their situation.
Roland's family contacted everyexpert, all leading to a dead
end, including a stint with apsychiatrist.
After getting no answers, thefamily finally received the help
from Father Raymond J Bishop,and multiple exorcisms were

(03:39):
performed in the real exorcist.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Roland's family also received a red flag the red flag
was the first to receive aWeegee board.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
I think it's fun.
Do you have one?

Speaker 3 (03:53):
No, my mom would never allow it.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I think that's where it all started.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
It sounds like there was already interest in there
Before the Weegee board.
There was an interest.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
I think the interesting to me is like, like
you were saying, nancy, wemanifest to good, we pray to
good, we, you know, like youwant to communicate with good
spirits or angels, or likewhatever you see as good.
Whatever you portray, portrayus good.
But like I think, when you'remessing with something like the

(04:29):
Weegee board, you can getanything like yeah, there's no,
I don't know.
Like you can't pick and choose,hey, I'm only going to talk to
a good spirit.
Well, you know, like you'reopening a gate, you're opening a
gate to something that might begood or might be bad, and I
don't think people should riskit.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
I would never risk it .
I don't think so no despite menot fully believing, I don't
think I would be willing to riskit.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah it's.
I think it's so scary.
I wouldn't want to risk iteither.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
And there's so many stories about possessions Like I
feel like this, this story ofRoland right, it's like one of
the most famous because therewas a movie made after him, but
there are so many stories aboutthings like this happening to
people that I think that'sfreaking, terrifying.
More stories like Annabelle,like a doll being possessed,

(05:24):
like what.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
How Right I was going to say for the human.
I wonder how much of that isrelated to mental health.
But then you bring up a doll.
And that makes it a littleharder to explain.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, like exactly Like Roland, allegedly spoken
Latin, urinated, vomited spitand spoken a deep, unfamiliar
voice.
So how much can you really?
I'm getting chills.
How much can you really kind ofput that on mental health?

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, I think the Latin part, like I'm sure that
there's mental health problemsthat could lead you to having
certain physical thingshappening to your body, but I
don't think there was Latin inhis family or that he that he
would have learned.
It seems like he just reallyknew Latin.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
I don't know if I remember correctly, but there
might be some sort of brain Umno, like if you're damaged in a
certain part of your brain, thatit may cause something like
that, because I think I rememberreading about it when I was in
school that somebody spokeFrench, and they didn't really
speak French after an injury.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yeah, I remember about that.
So I don't know if that couldbe a possibility.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Okay, I think Okay, but oh okay, yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
So what happened in the story?
You want to hear about it?
Yeah, there's been many.
There's been much mysterysurrounding Roland.
Despite that, the fact that theexorcist is based on a true
story.
Um 75 years later, expertsbelieve that the real exorcist
victim, roland, a former NASAengineer who helped the 1969

(07:28):
moon landing Wow.
He died of a stroke just amonth shy of his 86th birthday
in 2020.
Wow, he passed away in his homein Maryland after the series of
exorcisms that Roland wentthrough as a child.
He actually had an incrediblysuccessful career as an adult
working for NASA.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
That's awesome.
I'm really glad to hear thatRight.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Do you think that event, despite being very
traumatizing, helped?

Speaker 1 (07:59):
That's hard to say, could it?

Speaker 3 (08:00):
make up individual stronger.
Definitely Right.
I don't have an individualsupernatural not supernatural,
but like above averageintelligence.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, I wouldn't go that far.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Cause like what if the whatever was in their state
in there?

Speaker 1 (08:19):
I'm so creepy oh.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
You know, I wonder how he felt about the movie and
having his life portray likethat.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, that would be weird.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
That would be a good life.
Excuse me, roland, I'm freakingout over here.
I don't like it Pulls out awitty board.
No, this is where the podcastepisode ends Bye.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
No, stop it.
Why?
Yes, I'm sorry, I'm justkidding, you're not funny.
Do you think that's funny?

Speaker 1 (08:56):
No, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding, I'm just
kidding, I'm just kidding, I'mso hilarious.
Do you think that objects canget possessed?

Speaker 2 (09:06):
That I don't really believe.
Yeah, but what about Annabelle?
I don't really know much aboutAnnabelle other than what I've
seen in the movie, but it's justa movie to me.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Okay, but it was based on a true story.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
But who wrote it?

Speaker 3 (09:20):
There's an actual doll doll.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Do I have videos and pictures and?

Speaker 3 (09:26):
you want me to look it up?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
I'll show you.
I don't know.
That's a little harder for meto believe.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
I mean just overall, believing that an individual,
like a living, reasoningindividual, can be possessed.
Imagine a doll or an object.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
An object.
Yeah, that's hard.
You guys believe in it.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
I do.
I feel like there's so muchenergy and maybe it's not
possessed by like a demon orstuff like that, but I think
that we have so many leftoverenergy that we pass on to
objects that we love.
So I do believe that.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
I mean that's a possibility, because I heard
this other story about I can'tremember the name of this type
of box, but it's a box where Ibelieve it's the Jewish type box
.
No, don't quote me on that, butthis box belonged to an older
lady who had been playing withthe occult and they attracted a

(10:31):
demon and the demon wanted outthe demon.
They were contacting back andforth but these two girls and
one of them was the olderindividual that had the box but
these two girls contacted themand they were like, okay, we'll
let you out.
I don't know who would actuallydo that, because that's dumb as
fuck.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
But they let them out .

Speaker 3 (10:53):
They let the demon out, but they were able to trap
them, to trap it in a box, inthis box that I was telling you
about, and this box had beenpassed along for generations.
And then this older individualhad it.
They eventually sold it in astate sale and someone thought
it was a cool box, but theytried to open it and then they

(11:14):
started experiencing paranormalthings.
Ah, and then, okay, theybrought it back to the person
and then it got sold again andit's been passed along like that
until eventually some thriftowners were like, okay, we're
gonna keep it.
And or they sold it to anindividual who takes care of
these kinds of items, becauseeverything, a lot of things

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happen to the owners of that.
So what I'm thinking is what ifthat thing inside the box
whether real or not, or believeit or not, what if it was one of
, like a family members, soul,presence, demonic, whatever?

Speaker 1 (11:57):
That turned evil.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
That turned evil, because I mean I would do it.
But what if they were unhappybeing passed from like one hand
to the other?

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, of course.
I mean I would be upset too,Can I?

Speaker 2 (12:10):
ask you something when would you wanna be?
Would you wanna be in a boxlike?
That or what do you think?

Speaker 1 (12:16):
A piece of jewelry like that.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Girl, anyone who wears it gets like bad, like
really bad superpowers, so theycan do more evil.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Okay, no, that's terrible.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
No.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
You asked.
This is how I feel.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
But anyways, my point was that I was trying to make
is like what if it's just like aregular I don't wanna say
regular, actually it's some typeof entity that just feels angry
, being passed along from onehand to the other and decides to
react negatively.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
I believe it so we're defending the evil spirit, no,
so what we're doing in thispodcast?

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I mean, we did something like that in our last
episode.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Exactly the other.
Now I feel like that wasdifferent.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
How Okay, but.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
I agree, it's not their fault, it's just kidding.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Okay, but what object would you be?
What would you?
What kind of object would youpossess?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
It would be super cool if I was a book and then
whoever?
Reads it, reads it, then getspossessed.
It would like flip to certainpages.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
But if you possess somebody, it would be like the
sweetest possession ever,because you're so naive.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
I would just be like you're welcome for that.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
And so smart.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
You would teach them.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, she would just be teaching them everything,
correcting them.
Correcting them, that's not howyou say that word, that's like
textbooks and stuff like that,playing Chalino, there's
randomly being like playingChalino and drinking at the gut.
Oh my gosh, yes Goals, I likeyour possession.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
I like your possession.
The thing mine is to do evil.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Hers is to do impart knowledge To impart knowledge in
you, sonia, my, if I possesssomebody, they would just be
crying the entire time because Icry about everything.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I mean like crying Satisfy my brain.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Like it was just crying of joy.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Let's say, let's say have the ability to feel
emotions.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, exactly, Not just crying to like all the
emotions To be extreme.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Well, that is possession, so let's find it.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I would possess earrings,
earrings or like perfume,because I love perfume.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Actually, perfume is meant to like protect you, is it
?

Speaker 1 (14:28):
That's probably why I've been safe so far.
Interesting Anyways, do youguys want to hear a creepy story
?

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Please.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Tell us.
I know I'm feeling like uneasy.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, same.
Okay, you're gonna feel alittle more uneasy because this
actually happened to my mom.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Let's go for it.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
So back in the day, when she was like I think she
said she was like mid-20s sheused to live in this like rancho
, like of the village type ofthing, but then she moved to the
city.
But then she had a friend thatshe was really close to and I
think they used to write lettersto each other.
And then one day my mom decidedshe was gonna go visit her

(15:09):
friend.
But in Mexico, where they'refrom, like they don't really
have like they didn't ever havea bed.
They had like these things thatthey would lay on the floor and
like sleep on the floor.
And like my mom was just sohappy to see her friend and she
was so excited to be there.
She said they hung out andtalked and had a great time.
And when they were going to bedher friend said whatever you

(15:32):
hear, don't get up.
And then my mom was like what?
She was?
Like you're gonna hear thingstonight because my uncle's here,
but whatever you hear, don'tget up.
So I think my mom she wasassuming like other kind of
noises, like just maybe likesomething that it wasn't

(15:53):
appropriate or she just wasn'tthinking of the noises, she was
gonna.
Yeah, like so she said that theyfell asleep and it was like one
or two o'clock in the morningand she felt like just wind
coming, but it was like themiddle of summer and it's not
very windy over there, so shethought it was really weird.

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But she was told to not get up.
So she just covered herselfwith the covers and just kind of
rolled over and went back tosleep.
And then later on she said shecould hear plates falling and
breaking.
And then she said she wasscared and she said her friend
was like up and she kept holdingmy mom and the friend kept

(16:39):
telling her, whatever you do,don't wake up.
Like just don't get up, don'tget up, just everything's gonna
go by.
Like just don't get up.
And she heard she could hearlike books, like shuffling.
Like shuffling, like pagesflipping, but to like wind.
And she said she was just soconfused where that wind was

(17:01):
coming from and why those plateswere breaking.
And she could hear like a manpraying.
And she could hear a man being,like, just leave me alone, like
, please stop.
Like I don't wanna do this,please stop.
And so she said that it waslike out of a movie.
Like she says that she had neverexperienced something like that

(17:22):
and my mom has a little bit ofa connection to those things.
Like she sees people, she knowsthings, but she had never
experienced anything like that.
So she said they woke up in themorning and the house was a
mess and the book that they'd,that she'd heard, was a Bible.
And so she was like I'm notstaying here another night, like

(17:43):
what the heck?
And so she asked her friendwhat was happening, and this is
a story her friend told her.
She said that her uncle hadtried to make a deal with the
devil for the life of his sister.
His sister was really sick andshe lived in the US, but he
couldn't come visit, and so hejust was so desperate and so

(18:09):
much grief that he went by theriver and, instead of praying to
God.
He prayed to the devil andasked to bring his sister back,
but when he was praying hissister was already dead.
So he says that later on he wasby the river just crying about
his sister and a black dog cameover and stood next to him and

(18:34):
he heard the dog talking to him.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
And he freaked out and laughed.
And then he was by the riveragain and he heard a voice
saying I couldn't make a dealthen, but I'm ready to make a
deal now.
And so this entity that he wascalling for was trying to make
deals with him and keptharassing him about the deals.

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And my mom left the same dayand she never came back to visit
her friend, Like they wouldvisit each other, but her friend
would go to my mom's house.
I'm not sure what happened tothe gentleman.
I don't think she's sure either.
I don't think she ever askedher friend because she was too
scared.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
This is so creepy.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
It's very creepy, but I think out of all the stories
my mom's ever told me that wasone of the scariest, because
she's like I'm not lying to you.
She's like there was wind,there was like all these noises,
and she's like it wasterrifying and I'm like I would
have laughed.
But if she was told not toleave, that's what she said, but
yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
I wonder if they had to deal with this every night.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Imagine every night, oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah, that demon wanted the soul.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
That's what he offered.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
But the sister was already dead, so there was no
deal.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
There was no deal but he was trying to make a deal
for anything else he wanted,like he offered her, like he
offered him a young wife, likewhatever he wanted he would give
for his soul.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
It's crazy and if you think about it, well, if I
think about it, if I wasdesperate and, like one of my
sisters, was going throughsomething, I would do it.
I would do it too.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Really Mm-hmm.
Oh yeah, girl, I tried toGoogle how to bring my dad back
from the dead when he died.
Like at that point I was readyfor anything.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
So yeah, I can understand how you would go to
those lengths Exactly, yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
You know what?
I shouldn't say anything Rightnow, in this moment.
I say no, you never know.
Once you're in that, situation.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Please don't do that, don't gamble your soul with
anything.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
We do not recommend it, we do not advise.
We do not advise.
This is our disclosure.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
It's not advice.
Please live your happy life,okay, but what's crazy.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
So the thing that I want to go back to is that the
river.
Going back to the river.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
That body of water.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
We talked about that before.
Yeah, the body of water.
Listen to our previous podcastepisode.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
No, really to find a little more connection.
But like a body of water,because it carries so much
energy, it was able to passalong that message.
Yeah, that's the I'm just.
Chills right now are like allover my body, I know.
But, just having thatconnection just brought me over
just a little bit more Cause.
I'm like, oh my gosh, please becareful about bodies of water.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Never want to be near one ever again.
Well, I do.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Water is beautiful.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, exactly, let's go to Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Everything changes in Hawaii.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Okay, In Hawaii it's only the good spirit.
Hawaii is a question no itdoesn't go that way.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
You won't even remember what you're doing.
She's going to be like viving,viving, but that was very creepy
.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Wait, and you, okay, cause for this.
Once you weren't, once youhadn't finished the story.
I thought the house was goingto be like normal but not in
disarray and like there was amess there was like physical
evidence of a mess.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, and the person she was hearing was the uncle
the uncle praying like flippingthrough pages of the Bible too.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Oh, it was him.
Yeah, I thought it was the, theentity, the thing, whatever.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Well, the entity probably, was probably there in
the house trying to convince himand like reacting to the Bible
and all of that was yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Oh my gosh, I don't know.
They take off the shoes, no.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Every time she tells me that story I'm like ha, ha ha
.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
I can, yeah, I can.
What would you guys have doneIf you were?

Speaker 1 (22:38):
But the thing is like I always say I would have left,
but how do you move out of thatbed?

Speaker 2 (22:43):
or that place, especially if somebody already
told you don't get up, you trustthem.
They are alive.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
So they must know how to survive.
But then I think curiosityprobably would have caught the
best of me and I would have beenlike that me.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah, I would have.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
I know Geron would have caught up and like what's
going on.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
First of all, that friend maybe it's not a great
friend for doing that.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
For inviting her over to a haunted, but I would
imagine how much time this hasbeen going and how like.
And how lonely you are at thatpoint and how do you tell people
like?

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Only your best friends.
Yeah, because you're probablylike they're not going to
believe me that this ishappening Like.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
let me show them.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Probably she's like somebody needs to know.
Yeah, maybe they just she justneeded to share that experience
with somebody else.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
That's a very good point.
Someone like maybe like evenreassurance for her that she's
not going crazy.
That's exactly.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Oh man.
I would have taken somemelatonin, some holy water.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
No, I'm not going to buy my, you know what?

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Man, I would have been playing like Patty kicks
with demon.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
You would have.
You don't like?
I mean, can you do a mouse?
What's up?
I'm just getting right back toyou.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Oh, stop, because me too, so some feet Fly around for
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Okay, anyway, you're just scaring me.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
What?
Yeah, yeah, don't, don't killme.
I'm going to.
This is a message to people Donot kill me, because I will come
back, or like do harm me orwhatever, because I will come
back.
Yeah, I will come back andhaunt you Whenever you feel
you're piercing.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yes, hey, yeah, it's me.
Just know that I will findevery ounce of dark energy that
I can find in this universe.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
And I will laugh right now.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
And I will come for you.
Yes, I like it.
You know what I like it?
Because if you couldn't do itin life, you could do it in
death.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Like I'm going to Exactly, yeah, exactly so Event
your own death.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
I do the same thing, girl.
I'm right there, like you.
Yes, thank you.
Thank you for understanding.
I'm out.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
I'm going to be right behind you.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
This is great.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Have a lovely night.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
If you feel your feet pulled, it's me.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
But what?
What have I done to you?

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Nothing but being nice, it's just a warning Don't
do it.
Okay, because it will be me Allright, I'm going to be a
knowing entity.
I can see it.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
I can see it.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
She's just going to be tickling you.
I'm like I'll fuck Diana againI'm like I'll fuck Diana again.
I'm like I'll fuck Diana again.
I'm like I'll fuck Diana again.
Diana again, diana again.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
I'm like I'll fuck Diana again.
I'm watching you, Diana.
I'm going to be the way.
All right, I'll go take a breakLet me go to Senya's house.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
No, senya will cry Stop, I'm already scared, hold
on.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
This is going to be great.
I'm going to be the way.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
That's her favorite.
That's her favorite voice.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
We don't have any more listeners.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
We went to get holy water.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
And this is the last episode we ever did.
Because of it, people were likenah, you know what?

Speaker 3 (26:42):
If you guys don't listen, I'm also I'm going to
confine you.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding, you're goingto play episodes at night.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
The Latina state of mind podcast at night we're
going to.
You know what?
You know what it's not about ADPlugger.
You know what?

Speaker 3 (27:04):
I'm haunting in my own way.
I'm starting, I'm starting.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Oh man, we started.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
We started so good.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, and then we needed a little bit of.
That was actually really likestarting to get really scared,
yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Because that once the true story.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, that's so creepy.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
And then all the true stories that we've covered so
far, actually.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Right.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, have you ever felt anything like that?

Speaker 2 (27:33):
No, and I don't want to think about it.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
I've never played with it, no.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Because, like I said, I'm leaning more towards it
does exist.
I would not risk it.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
You're more careful, I'm very careful.
Okay, because it's scary.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
It is scary.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
I don't know.
Offer my soul to someone, forone of my sisters, for example.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
To make sure they're okay.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
No.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
What do I get in return?

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Do I get to keep both brothers one brother?

Speaker 1 (28:34):
money as well, because if money's not involved,
I don't know if this will workout.
I mean, can I make a deal andbe like five deals and one?
I know yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
I know.
So then I don't think it'sgonna come true for me.
I don't think my, my darkwishes are gonna come true, cuz
I'd be like I want more.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Okay, hold on.
Can you come back?

Speaker 3 (29:37):
And the dark did I say this dark super powers
already anyway is just doublechecking and give you nothing.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Oh, that's a great deal and that's when they would
walk away.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
But maybe that's the strategy all along.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
I could know the theme is.
I'm a firm believer that whenyou mess with dark energies and
nothing good ever comes of it.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
So I feel like, even if you negotiate somebody's life
for your soul, I don't knowthat that's a good, that's a
good it wouldn't be upheld.
Yeah, I'm just saying if, if Iwas desperate, I would be like,
oh, I'm gonna go back to thedark energy.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
I'm just saying if I was desperate and I felt like
that was my only choice or mylast option to do something you
would lose your souls and yoursister.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
You think a day and a hold the contract.
I believe in the goodness ofthe dead or the life of the
Supreme Court?
Of what?

Speaker 1 (31:04):
You know what you do.
You have an ally there.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
You do actually.
These are good tears.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Oh man, how did we go from possession to this?

Speaker 3 (31:19):
It's supposed to be all spooky episode.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
It is pretty spooky.
I'm scared.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Having all these conversations about dark
entities, possessions that dealswith whomever.
No deals, no deals.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
First of all, you guys suck at making deals.
I don't think it's gonna happenfor you, for either of you.
The negotiation part right nowis going to be like no, thank
you.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
I don't want it.
I was one of the bestnegotiators in my negotiations
class at CSU.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
I mean I do believe that, yeah, I can see that.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
You can make a deal.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
I think I could.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
I would call you.
Thank you To help me out.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Here I am bitch.
What's your role?

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Nevermind, I'm never gonna call you.
That's a good advantage of you.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
My client would like to keep her soul.
I'm her soul-over-sister.
Thank you, did you get?

Speaker 1 (32:20):
enough food.
He's close.
You get a high five.
Bye, bye, have a good night.
See ya Never.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Oh my gosh, anyways.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Anyways, oh man, what's the next part of this
podcast?
What is it?

Speaker 3 (32:42):
You're kidding, right ?
It's been so long.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, it's been so long.
I think we just close it and goyeah, let's go, let's have this
.
Maybe we can do some of that.
Diana's Daily Shade.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Let's lighten it up, yeah, whatever.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
What are you mad about today?

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Okay, so I recently went to a concert.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Herrard Ortiz.
I watched this concert.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
I was not in the dancing area for his part of it.
I was enjoying it.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
I'm enjoying him.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Hits.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
he's pretty cute 10 out of 10.
Yeah, 9 out of 10.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Let's do it 9 and a half.
Okay, we'll come back to that,okay.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Anyway.
So my friend and I went to goget a drink.
We came back, we kind of stoodby the more dancing area and we
were just having a fun time, Herand I enjoying our time.
It wasn't meant to be like weweren't trying to look for
someone, something, anything,nothing.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
We were just there for the concert.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
We were just there for the concert, having fun,
that's it.
Well, of course, obviously, weget invited out to dance.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Of course.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
But like we weren't feeling it.
We weren't feeling it Causewhatever they send, that Anyways
.
But these individuals, thesemen would get mad.
They would get mad at us whenwe said no, and to me that's
really fucking stupid, becauseI'm like, if I say no, just move

(34:25):
on.
Move on to the next individual.
You don't have to give me adirty look, you don't have to
like.
Call your names they don't haveto call me names.
No one to call me names, causethat would have been, people
have.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
I know people who have.
Oh shit, no one would have beencalled names.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Oh, can you tell us more about them?
I've never been called names.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
I think we need to talk about the culture of events
like this.
I feel like for a lot of theseevents people go to dance, like
it's a lot of regional Mexicanmusic, and so people go to
concerts.
Some people go to listen andsome people go to dance, and
most people go to dance.

(35:03):
I should say some of us just gofor the music and the concert
part.
But I used to work for my dadand he was a promoter for
Mexican bands and so he wouldalways send me up around the
stage to kind of check that thebands looked okay, that the boys
didn't need water or somethinglike that, and every time I
would walk by it didn't everfeel that somebody would ask me

(35:24):
to dance.
And I mean, first of all, I'mworking and second of all, I
don't know how to dance to thismusic.
Very well.
And I'm gonna say yes.
And a few times there were guysthat were like oh que apretada.
I don't know how do you evensay that in English.
Uptight yeah like so uptight,or like this guy called me fat

(35:44):
and I was like platuya.
Then I was like, well, if I'mfat and apretada, why are you
asking me to dance?
Like, move on.
And my dad would just be likeI'm not gonna dance, I'm like I
don't know how to dance, dad.
And I'm like I don't know howto dance.
It's not my style, it's not mymusic and I'm here to work, I'm
not here to dance.
And they shouldn't get offendedbecause you don't want to dance

(36:05):
.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
No, it's no.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, you just bruise their little egos.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, I think that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
But yeah, I mean it's .
I think it's just understandingthat no means no In any context
.
If someone says no, that's theend of it.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Like you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Because getting mad and getting like worked up is
gonna make me not dance with youeven more yeah.
You know like that reactionjust showed me that you're a
piece of shit.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
I mean you made the right choice by saying no,
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
And like stop touching me and stop like asking
me and stop if I say no is no.
But yeah, I don't think menshould go, I don't think men
should get mad.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Just move on.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah, because there are a bunch of girls who are
there to dance.
They want to dance yeah.
So yeah, try the next one.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Go ask every other girl and it has nothing to do
with the way you look.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
It has nothing to do with who you are as a person.
Like or does it, at least forme I'm always like I just don't
want to dance.
Like I don't, I don't like it.
So I'm never like no, you'renot my type.
Like it's just dancing.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Well we don't all feel the same way.
I care about certain specifics.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, I think it's important, but it's not a big
deal.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
But the thing is that it doesn't matter if it is
because you don't think they'reattractive.
If you say no, it's no.
If it is because you don't knowhow to dance, if you say no,
it's still no.
Like it doesn't matter whatyour reason is for saying no.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
I shouldn't have to explain myself Exactly.
It doesn't really matter.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Like, just like Diana said just move on, go find
another girl.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
I promise you she wants to dance.
I don't want my fucking bitch.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
It's the end, I'm saying no for you.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
I'm doing this because of you.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
I'm thinking of you, I'm thinking of the other
individual.
I am just that much of a caringperson.
I love it.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
We had an experience and I'll never forget.
I think this is my worstexperience I've ever had with
going out with you and a guybeing a jerk to you With me yeah
, we went out for New Year's andshe was wearing this hot ass
dress Like she looked fire, andof course people wanted to dance

(38:35):
with her.
But you were with your partnerand I remember this guy just
like, not like quitting, and Iremember you being like no dude,
I'm with my partner, I don'twant to dance with you.
And he was like you don't knowwhat I can do for you, blah,
blah, blah.
And then he just took it to awhole other level and I was just
so upset because she had to sayno like four or five times for

(38:59):
him to finally stop and it wasso disrespectful and I was just
so, like I just was so annoyedand it was just like dude, she
said no, already she's with herpartner.
Like you wouldn't do that if shewas with a boy.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, it definitely adds another layer.
I feel like a lot of guys takeit as a challenge.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Yeah, First of all, like you were talking all this
shit but you're not going to beable to back it up.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
I'm so sure, because a person that's going to talk
all this shit yeah, it has alittle pee pee and it can't even
use what he has.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
You know what?
I was just not interested and Idid not want to find out.
No, like just yeah no, no meansno.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Don't be offended.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
I don't know if these , if you're listening to this, I
love you.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
And I would totally dance with you.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
That's so funny.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
What do you want to end your DDS with?

Speaker 3 (40:10):
No, means no.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
I like it, no means no.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
I don't have to give an excuse.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Period Period Period.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
And once again I don't know what to think.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Dude.
I used to be obsessed with himtoo Like in love.
Well, you know, life, life.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yeah, life happens.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
And then I keep it.
He's cute.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
He's cute.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
He is very cute.
Yeah, is he short?

Speaker 3 (40:38):
He's like 5, 8.
This 9.
And I mean that's perfectlyfine, because I'm short.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Or.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Short or it's cool, it's tight, it's fine it's tight
and like a couple of meals.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Okay, now we're going to really get.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Okay, anyway, let's go back to the sessions.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Oh, even better, Wow.
Closing thoughts.
Don't play with the Ouija board, yeah, don't play with
something that might Hurt you.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah, and others, and others.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Because I mean others will be affected.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
But yes, even if you don't believe Don't.
Just don't play with it.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah, just don't mess with it To be safe, because I
mean, if it, if it is real,you're opening a gate, yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
And you have no control over the gate once it's
open.
Yeah, and you have no controlover the gate once it's open and
or who's coming through that?

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Yeah, and don't upset Diana, because that is just
going to come on, be careful.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Moral of the story.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Be, careful around her.
Be nice Respectful.
Be nice Respectful.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Be true self, but like be careful with that true
self, yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Don't be a true, don't be too true.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
But like don't be fake either.
Okay, Fucking impossible I willcatch on to it.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
It just can't please you.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
You can just not yeah .

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Anyways.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Anyway, you guys do a pretty good job at it, though,
so you guys are safe.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Okay, good, thank you .
That makes me feel so muchbetter.
We're safe.
Okay, thank you, thank you somuch for listening to this
episode.
I hope you enjoyed it.
Tell us your spooky story, ohmy gosh, we want to hear them.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Because I know people out there have a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Oh my gosh, I know they have some super creepy
stuff.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Yeah, tell us and let us know if we can post them so
we can share it with otherpeople.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yes, we can even read them.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Ooh, spooky.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Anyway, thank you for listening.
Have a good night.
We will see you next time.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Love you, bye, thank you for listening to Latina.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
State of Mind produced by us, your awesome
host Diana, senia and Nancy.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Special shout out to Jerome, our editor Don't forget
to follow us on Instagram atLSOM underscore podcast and on
Facebook at Latina State of MindHasta la próxima.
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