LDL Ep 181: Shelly's Dad's Funeral Part 2

In this episode we are finishing up the deaths of both of Shelly's parents. Morbid? A little bit. This is part 2 of Shelly's Dad's Funeral. It's kind of surreal that my mom and dad are both gone. Life is...well, surreal. Enjoy!

Episode Transcript

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In this episode, going back tomy dad's funeral because the last episode we
didn't quite get there all the way, so back at it got my co
host Jennifer here, don't go away, We'll be right back. Hello there,
and welcome to the Latter Day Lesbianpodcast podcast about an next Mormon gay

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girl just trying to figure out herlife. I'm Shelly, and again I
have special guest hosts Jennifer with metoday. Jennifer, say, hi,
Hi, oh there you are.So last episode, if you remember,
we were talking about my dad's funeraland I was thinking, gosh, I

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hope I can fill enough time,but we had to cut it short.
It was over an hour long.It was all said and done, but
I basically got to the point whereme and my kids and my girlfriend Donna
had like landed in Utah. Yeahit's yeah. Who says I'm long winded?
Nobody, but I am. Ohoh yes everybody. Uh so,

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Jennifer, reintroduce yourself to people whomight not be following the rules and are
just jumping into this episode. First. Okay, I'm Jennifer Waters, and
I am an OG listener and kindof a partial contributor at times. Exmo
Lesbo on TikTok, you just reallywant to go wild with it? Mom

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of four kids, live in Utah, left the church twenty sixteen, caught
the gay, been with the ladiesever since. That gay, you'll get
you and it's I know, youknow one person pleases I was gonna say,
it doesn't just clear up on hisown either. It's like, you
catch the gay, you've got thegay. It's it's it's a terminal illness,
rigorous treatment. That's what I'm talkingabout. Okay. So when you

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call through yourself an OG listener oro G podcast listener, podcast fan,
whatever you said, who's listening tothe episode that we recorded last with Donna
my girlfriend? And she's like,what does OG mean? It was so
cute. I know that means shegrew up with dollars and not y.

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Yes. I'm like, so itmeans original gangster. That's what it means,
right, yeah? Yeah, I'mlike wait, I had to pause.
I'm like, no, that's okay, and then she goes, what
like, yeah, like the OGthe original. She had no clue.
It was very cute how clueless shewas. Tot's presh as we say here,
Diane, how is how is Ziondoing these days? How's the old

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Utah? You know what? It'sfucking winter here and everybody's sick of it.
So somebody really does need to stepup and go with the eleven percent
at this point because I am tiredof it. Well, it's not gonna
be me. Hey, I don'tlive there and be here in Virginia.
We've got some It's it's nice out, a little bit rainy, but most
mostly warm. Happy for you,well, thank you. Okay, life

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update for me. Donna and Iare moving in together in little less than
a month. So everyone who's like, what the fuck you and Mary just
broke up? No, it's beenlike a long time now. I can't
believe how much time has passed.Mary and I broke up roughly the end

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of July of twenty twenty three.But in all honesty, it was kind
of looking back now, it waskind of swirling the bowl for a little
while there. Anyway. Yeah,and as of today this recording, we're
in the first week of May.So recovery's going well. Mary and I
don't really talk much except for thingsconcerning the Airbnb. God, that's about

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it. It's such an everybody's goingtheir own way. It's such a strange
thing. Yeah, God, lookingback, I'm like, you know,
when the breakup first happened, itwas like, how am I going to
ever get through this? This isthe worst thing ever? And now it's
just not really even in my headanymore. Does that make me sound cold

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or callous or just that I've movedforward? No, because what you said
was true at the time, Likewhen that happened, your reality was that
it was devastating and consuming and allthat stuff. You don't have to live
in that reality for the next fiveyears, Like there's not a formula you
have to follow for healthy recovery.Well, that's that's good. So that

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is an update. It will bewe are moving from our own homes.
Like she lives in Gaithersburg, Ilive in Vienna. We are moving to
McLain, which is about fifteen minutesfrom me, so that I can be
still close to my kids because there'sstill ten thousand of them. And her

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two kids she has an adult childand a sixteen year old child, will
be will stay living in her housein Gaithersburg and her and Donna's ex wife
will be moving into that house.Yeah, it's a whole ass shit show,
believe you me? Mm hm,So that Donna's kids can stay in
their same school, or so herone child who's still in school can still

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be in school there, but thatchild will come and stay with us during
the custody weeks, as will mine. So it's gonna be a big ass
shit show. Just there will belots to say there are like thirty seven
rooms in the house or how doesthat work? There are a lot of
rooms in the house that yep,every child has their own room. But

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again, I like my old olderkids. They are they're fucking doing their
own thing. Although my oldest daughter'smoving back in so she can save money
and go to college. So whofucking knows that this is life? Can
we just say, yeah, whateverworks for you, this is life.
Okay, So that's my most recentlife update. Now everyone's like, we

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really want to know what happened actuallyat your dad's funeral, And I just
have to say too. As Iwas listening to the first Funeral episode and
again I've said this before, likeI don't remember what I talked about.
Right after I stopped recording listening toit was it was weird to just like
go through it again. I don'tknow, it's like to relive in again.

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Yeah, it's kind of like Ifor I forgot that my parents are
dead, and then I get remindedbecause there I am talking about it,
and I'm listening to myself talk aboutit. So just with just weird emotions,
I mean, I'm yeah, Idon't know. I guess those of
you who have lost parents, lovedones, whatever, there's just a lot
of emotions that you don't expect thatyou're you know, you're just not ready

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for that. It feels good tosit and analyze and be like wow,
okay. And that's what I didyesterday, a lot of wow okay.
Huh. So the end of theepisode, part one was a lot of
about Donna being so helpful with thekids, and she's still just freaking amazing
with helping out with things, andI'm so appreciative of that. Let's just

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jump in to where the plane landsand my brothers come and pick us up
from the airport. And it's awesomebecause my brothers have met Donna before,
and Donna has met them, andthey're friendly and they're happy and they hug
and it's just times it just feelsright, you know, it just feels

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like, oh, she's always beenin my family familiarity. Absolutely. It's
interesting too because her daughter, hersixe year old daughter, told me that
about a month ago. She's like, yeah, it just feels like you've
always been there, which is sucha sweet thing to hear from a kid.
And my kids adore Donna like theyhug her, they talk to her.

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They it just is really cute.It's nice to not feel like a
single lass and change. Oh mygod, yeah, yeah, huge.
All right, the funerals. Sowe get to the airbnb that was rented
for everyone to stay at, andagain this is there's my oldest brother David.

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Let's let's set the stage again.Oldest brother David asshole, can't stand
him. Narcissist, not that Iam placing a label, but yeah,
I would say yeah, but it'sit's super there, selfish, liar,
just not a good person, abusiveto people anyway. That's David. Oldest.

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Next is Mike. Mike is themore I mean, he's funny,
but he's also more serious. He'sa he's a doctor, lives in Florida.
His wife is Elise. His threedaughters have all basically left the church.
They have one adopted son who isseverely autistic. He is my youngest

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age and Mike and I get alonggreat. He's more of the I hate
to say trumper, but yeah,he's just kind of a trumper. And
this I know. I know Imake that face too. And I was
listening to myself talk about this inthe last episode, where you're just kind
of like, here's my family,how do they treat me? They have
some fucked up views on things.Yeah, they have some fucked up views
on things, because that's that's there. That's the news channel that they watch.

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How about that? Yeah? Andso yes, I have to stomach
some things that he says. Iyou know, I shouldn't call him the
trumper. Honestly, I don't evenknow if he voted for Trump. All
I'm saying is he's conservative and hecan't stand Biden because you can't like both
sides. That's just how it is. And then there's Mark. Mark is

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the one just older than me bythree years. His wife is Heidi.
They are freaking awesome. All oftheir kids are still Mormon, and all
of their kids and my kids arelike super tight, which makes it so
fun. Oh and David's kids forgotabout them. David has three living kids
from his second marriage and their kids. His kids can't stand him. They

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don't want to be anywhere near him. I don't blame them. They hate
him. There you go. Didyou say three living kids for a reason
or why did you say it likethat? Oh? Yeah, so had
their first child died was born withWhat they think happened was that the baby
had a stroke in utero sometime aftertwenty weeks and the brain stopped growing and

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just kind of shrunk down. Andyeah, Isaac lived fourteen months, which
was wow. Yeah. I meanhe had lots of surgeries and things,
but he was basically non like hehad to have medicine to wake up,
medicine to fall asleep, feeding toblind. I'm not sure he could hear,
club feet, just a lot,like a whole list of everything was

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wrong. Okay, so there's thefan there they are. But there is
something again, so great when Iget all of my kids and my nieces
and nephews together because no one givesa shit about what anyone believes. Everyone
is just out for the party.They just have fun. They will all

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play the same games. There's thekids like mine that really swear a lot,
which is wonderful. But no onejudges anyone. I don't know.
It's just kids, yes, andI yeah, And I feel like the
next generation Mormons, the ones whostick in it, who stick around,
I think most of them will leaveanyway. But if the next generation of

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Mormons are like markn Heidi's Mormon kids, I have hope that they will be
okay. Whether that means they canlive the religion in a way that doesn't
hurt them, meaning they ignore ninetynine percent of the shit right and start
to question things, or they justflat out leave, which I think flat

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out leave will probably be the casefor some of them. I don't.
I don't know so well. Andthe church isn't the same for them as
it is as it was for us. The church that kids are growing up
in today has no resemblance to thechurch that you and I grew up in.
Oh God, no, God no, which makes me think of there's
an article came out. Hold on, let me yell at my dog.

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Yeah no, no, I'll tellyou who's intruder. Domino is intruding on
my piece. What he likes todo is he goes and he gets socks
out of my kids rooms. Hebrings them down and he walks in front
of Eddie, drops it in frontof Eddie and then growls and barks at
Eddie, like, don't you fuckingtake my sock. That's what's happening.
That's what I went out to checkon. Really, Yes, it's some
bullshit going on out there. Doyou have I was gonna ask you,

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do you have like Mormon cousins andwhatever that are? Like? Cool?
Yeah, So I have three siblings. My oldest brother lives in Vegas.
He just got divorced as well,and he's always been an outside Mormon.
We were also raised outside of Utah, so our Mormon is different too,
like my siblings and I. Myyoungest brother left the church before I did

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because he's always got to be betterthan me. And then my sister is
very, very active. She liveshere in the same town as me,
and they're like the checklist Mormons,like they do everything they're supposed to do,
still have scripture study, they doeverything. All three of her kids
have gone on missions, but somehowshe makes both of them work. Like
she when I was going through myhorrible divorce, she was at every court

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hearing with me, and she's afierce defender. She would probably cut somebody
if they ever said anything bad aboutme or me not being Mormon, or
gay or anything. She's never saida thing like I showed up full tattoos
out for her daughter's graduation from collegelast week, and nobody says anything like
that. So she is the exceptionto like every Mormon rule. And I

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think a majority of that is thatwe grew up outside of Utah. So
are you Like I said, ourmormon is different, and plus we're sisters
and we're fairly close to each other. But the people that are kind in
Mormonism to me are my age orlower. Yeah, I have not found
anybody my age are higher other thanmy dad, who is open at all.

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It's just very black and white.Like when I move to Utah,
that's when I learned that Mormonism andthe culture here was very very black and
white, despite there being like probablymore jack Mormons as they used to call
them. Right now they're progressive Mormons, right, But like when I grew
up, you just didn't do thethings you weren't supposed to do. There
wasn't a question mark or a considerationthat you could you absolutely did not do

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the things three piercings. You werea whore, oh for sure, nobody.
And now you can be like,oh my name's Bercakesley and I have
nineteen piercings and I have a tattooof Jesus, and like it wasn't the
cherry picking religion that it is.Now you can't be a TikTok mom influencer
Mormon lady and still actually sit ina pew and go through the temple and

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take the sacrament, Like you couldn'ttake the sacrament if you were caught schmast
bating. Right now you can literallyfull on have like a public thresome on
TikTok and you can still just staybecause you have a lot of tithing money,
right Like, we'll make exceptions ifyou pay a lot of tithing.
I know, sometimes I think thekids these days were Mormon. It's like,

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you don't know what the fuck wewent through. No, like you're
not even a Mormon, like likeyou you now, you in the eighties
and nineties would have been cast thefuck off and humiliated and scorned consequences.
Oh yeah, yeah, yes,yeah. There was chastisement for everything and
punishment for everything. I mean evenlike not going to Young Women's ninety percent

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of the time in a year,like you have a reviews and shit like
yeah, like there was so muchpunishment and shame, and especially like in
your ward or the social circle ofyour church, people like it was all
about using you as example, makingyou the good person or the bad person.
It was very, very divisive.And now they're like, did you
murder anyone today? No, okay, sure have a seat and here's your

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recommend and that shit would never happenbefore. I kind of hate it.
No, No, I think it'sprobably because so many people are leaving that
the church is like, well,how are we going to get him to
stay? Well, you stop beingso damn rulesy. So I think that's
what they're doing. But I hopethat even with that that people will just

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be like, I don't I don'tneed this. Yeah, this isn't for
me. For me, yeah yeah, but you know, some people staying
and whatever, they just leave itin Dan whatever. Exactly cool. So
Airbnb getting checked in seeing everyone supership were fun. Now there's the situation

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of my parents when we moved themfrom their I don't know, thirty five
hundred four thousand whatever square foot homeand Eagle Mountain and kind of in an
emergency to get him out of thathouse and into a place where they could
get some help, like a seniorliving center, we had to sell the
house. And so my parents,my mom specifically, get rid of nothing,

(17:29):
got rid of nothing. Oh like, it was like a hoarder house.
Not hoarder house like catshit everywhere,like you'd see on that show Hoarders,
but a hoarderhouse and like boxes andpapers and yeah, they kept all
their stuff, yes, everything,and they have traveled the world, so
they always had like trinkets and shit, which great good for them. That
all ended up in the biggest storageunit you can imagine, fucking huge.

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And some of you listeners, bythe way, came and helped out with
that moving thing a few years ago, and good God, thank you so
much. So storage unit. There'sstuff in there that we have talked about.
Well who gets it? And honestly, I don't have This is every
Mormon funeral of old people shit.God, So I don't have any for

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some reason, like personal connection totheir stuff. I know that probably sounds
weird, Maybe it doesn't, Idon't know. I mean, yeah,
there's nothing like, oh I reallywant moms blah blah blah. I I
don't. And that doesn't mean Idon't like her love her. I just
there was not this connection of somethingthat I used every day or that I
you know, the things that Ibrought back with me in a suitcase were

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some nutcrackers from Germany and just likesome little figurines I remember playing with when
I was a kid, But likethe furniture, don't care, I don't
know. I just that's for somereason, my parents' stuff never had I
didn't connect with it. My grandpaparents things, my dad's parents. Yes,

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absolutely I connected with a lot oftheir stuff. But yeah, my
parents meh. But my other brothersthey connected with some things. And my
other brothers meaning Mike and Mark,now David, the oldest brother. Here's
a reminder. We involve David inzero things on purpose, like all of
you have the game plan on purpose? Yes, because he ruins everything everything.

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He was the one And I probablytalked about this before as my mom
was getting sicker and sicker because youknow, Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and old as
fuck. You know, your bodyneeds less calories. You don't feel like
eating you sleep more, you eatless, you eat less. Your appetite
dwindles, so you sleep more,you eat less. Like this is how
you die, right, this isthe same reaction. Yeah, unless you

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get hit by something or like cancertakes you, you basically die by not
taking in the calories that is neededto support your organs. My Mom's not
going to recover from this, andmy dad was not going to rea cover
from being old either. This wasthis was the way of things. She
was ready to go. She couldn'tremember shit anymore, she was constantly shaking,
she would have anxiety attacks. Butdouchebag David would wanted Mike, who

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was power of attorney as far asall things medical for my parents, wanted
Mike to have my mom get astomach feeding tube, no, to keep
her alive longer. Like why,that's fucking insane. And I think the
only reason why was because David's justa piece of shit and he wants to
have an idea. We should dothis and have all of us go,

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oh, yeah, great idea,David. So the last few months of
my mom's life were basically David tellingher, I'm so sorry they're starving you
to death. Mom, Oh mygod, Yeah, that kind of shit.
This is why I hate him.It's not just like he's a mean
brother. No, he's a cruelperson. Okay. And then he would
tell my dad the same thing.Dad, I'm so sorry that. You
know, I'm trying so hard tohelp Mom recover from this, but you

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know, Mike and Mark and Shelleyjust want to pull the plug, like
he said these words. So thenmy dad's having panic attacks because he also
had dimensions so couldn't quite understand things. So that's just a surface that's David,
right. This is why we don'tinvolve him in things. And he
has he had no right on forany involvement anyway, because he's like nowhere
on any of the paperwork. Whenmy dad was still lucid, he took

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David off of anything as far asdecision making because he knew, like David's
a fucker, all right. Thestorage unit. There's so much shit in
the storage unit. And Mark andMike and I have spent hundreds of hours
of like work with the storage unit, from packing it up, organizing shit,

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going through pictures, going through boxes, going like we would fly out,
and spend hours almost on a monthlybasis to try to pare down their
shit. Yeah right, And Daviddid nothing, didn't even lift a finger.
We pulled, oh fuck, Idon't know how many enormous boxes of

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photos I'm sure out of there.It was insane because my mom took put
pictures all the time. She wasthat annoying grandma and that now you appreciate
because you're like, oh my god, look at this cute picture of my
kid. So we brought all thoseboxes to the Airbnb and all of the
grandkids, so we're talking like nineteenpeople plus the grown ups. We spent

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like two solid days going through picturesand throwing away ones where we're like,
nobody knows who that is, LikeI don't that's a picture of the inside
of my mom's purse, right,Like, just all this shit. And
again David did not help it all. But because we are nice, we
made a pile of pictures that hadDavid in them so that he could have
those. Why because we're nice andI'm kind of over being nice. Then

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I took pictures of furniture that wasin the storage unit, sent some of
the pictures to David, saying,are you interested in this? Are you
interested that. Oh yeah, yeah, i'll take that. I'll take that,
I'll to that. Blah blah,I'll take that. Like all this
stuff, he's gonnake. He's gonnatake cool, bro when you're gonna come
get it. Oh well yeah,I'm real busy blah blah blah. Just
of course, this has always beendavid slight side story here. So David

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claimed that one of his employees athis shop stole a bunch of money,
right, and he called like thenews station and did all this shit.
Anyway, we knew that he thatthis was something that David did, not
the employee, because it's he's donethis in the past. My brother Mark

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actually got a hold of the guywho was accused of it and got the
whole story, and it was like, yeah, of course this is of
course, this is all David.And that guy asked Mark if Mark would
be a character witness against David ifthis ghost at court, and Mark said
fuck yeah absolutely, because by nowMark just wants to just kill David because

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David has caused so many problems andso all this would be was him saying
to a court I know David tohave lied about blah blah blah, to
have treated my parents in such away. You know nothing to do with
the actual case, because Mark doesn'tknow anything about the case except for what
the news said just about him asa person exactly, And somehow that got
back to David. Now and thisis what we're leading into here. We

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get the stuff in the storage unitpaared down as much as we can,
and we were like, let's justtake the big furniture items that David wants.
We'll just put it in the damnU haul. We will drive it
out to his house in Eagle Mountains. We're looking like forty five minutes each
way. We will unload it forhim in his garage. Like we're being
nice. May I pause you fora second. Yes, all of you

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live out of state and you're comingin state to do all of this.
And he's the one person that livesin state and doesn't lift a finger but
expects you to hand deliver his shitto him. Correct. Oh my god,
he's one of those. Yeah,forever, has been one of those.
So we get it all loaded upand at this time, I think
I texted David and I was like, Hey, we're gonna drop your stuff

(25:11):
off. Between this time and thistime. Just make sure we can get
into the garage. We'll put itin your garage. He's like, okay,
well just text me when you're onyour way. I'm go' fine.
So the funeral has not even happenedyet. By the way, this is
a long drawn as this is likethe day before. We'll be fine.
We drive all the way the fuckout there, and I start texting David.

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No answer, no answer, noanswer, Like seriously, dude,
because I told him between this timeand this time. So annoying because he
had said that his step son wouldbe there to open the garage for us
and knock on the door. Noone answers, Text, no one's answers,
call, no one answers. I'mtelling my brother, and Donna,
by the way, is with us. She's of course, of course,
Donna is helping to move shit thatshe has no business having to help with.

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But she's a fucking amazing human andbeing, and she's helping move my
parents' shit to my shitty brother's house. Now it's starting to rain, and
so we're like, well, whatdo we do. We can't get into
the garage, and I'm getting impatient. Mark's getting pissed. Mike's getting like,

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we're just all getting pissed. Andthen David calls me back. He's
like, oh hey, I gohey, we're here, Like, can
you unlock the door? Like,oh, well, I'm not there,
but listen, my wife trying toleave her name out of it, even
though I hate her. My wife'sright around the corner. She'll be there,
like in five minutes. I'm like, great, cool, we can.
We'll just start moving stuff for fiveminutes. He goes, well,

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yeah, when she gets there,I'm gonna need you guys to all go
sit in your car. What thefuck exactly? I go, no,
no, uh huh no, Well, she doesn't feel safe having you guys
around. And believe me, thisex wife has caused as much trouble as
David has with my parents and allthe lies and all the bullshit. And

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I'm like, no, David,no, we're not. No, we
are not. We are dropping yourshit off dude at your house. We're
not gonna go sit in the carbecause your fucking wife has issue with us,
Okay, and it's she has issuewith us because of the ship that
he told her, which is nottrue, and also because she's a lying,
scheming bitch. So David's like,oh, give me a second.

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He gets off the phone, andthen I tell Mike and Mark and they're
like, oh, you can justsay. Esteam starting to come out,
and Donna's just like, dip todo helping push this down here, lift
with my legs. And then Davidcalls back, and now I'm inside of
the truck and Donna's and they're movingstuff and h David's like, okay,

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right, well, she's just aroundthe corner, should be right there.
And I go, you know,cool, and he's like, but yeah,
you're gonna have to go sit inthe I go, no, this
is fucking crazy. We're not gonnago sit in the car. What is
she afraid of? What? Like? No, what we don't even like
her? Why would we say anything? Well, you know, because Mark
is gonna be a witness against aknown felon and just like or a witness

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for whatever he said. And Ilost my shit. I cannot stand when
David starts spewing his lies. AndI'm so protective of especially Mark at this
point, because David has really beena dick to him. And David start
saying this, and I just yell, shot the fuck up like loud,

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and everyone kind of stops, andDonna walks past me. She just like
puts her hand on my shoulder andthen just keeps moving furniture. Like I
fucking snapped, like are you kiddingme? This? So this is the
kind of person that David is islike, doesn't help, can't even bother
to have someone there to open thegarage so we can deliver his free furniture,

(28:55):
right fully expects you to do allthe work, yeah, and then
wants us to all go sit inthe car are I was like, no,
we're just gonna put your stuff outin the rain. Bye. Hang
up. Yeah. He kept tryingto call back. I didn't answer.
I'm like fuck you ye. Afew minutes later, his step son showed
up, and his step son,I feel bad for him. He just
has a shitty step dad and theshitty mom. And he knew the garage
code and was able to let usin. But so that's like the day

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before the funeral. So here weare with this, like, motherfucker.
Wait, did the wife ever showup? Now? Okay, I wish
she would have. She's that one, that one. So that's day.
That's day one of family, youknow, in Utah. Next day is

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the funeral, and we get there. We get there on time. The
boys are all wearing they're all they'veall picked out one of my dad's ties.
He had lots of ties. Hewas really sweet. I mean,
they all loved my dad, youknow, he was he was my dad,
but he was also a grandpa Jay. So I mean, I understand
how that can be. I'm inthere and I say hi to David because

(30:03):
I'm nice, you know, I'mlike, Hey, what's up? Blah
blah blah. Then I see hiswife and I'm gonna be nice because I'm
nice and it's a funeral, andso I go over and I'm like,
hey, how's it going? AndI'm just kind of chatting with her and
her mom, who's heir. Momis so weird too. The whole thing
is just just cea church building,right Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure

(30:26):
is. And then probably, Idon't know, fifteen minutes later or so,
I guess, Donna comes up tome. She's like, oh my
god, what what she goes.I just had to practically break up a
fight between Mark and David, Likewhat are you talking about? You?
I didn't hear any of this,No, I missed the best part.
No, I didn't. The bestpart's coming, don't you worry. So

(30:47):
apparently what happened was Mark was liketrying to fix the VCR that was gonna
play, or a CD player,whatever's gonna play, like pictures of my
dad, and David came over thereand just started hounding him about this court
case. Oh can't believe you're gonnastab me in the blah blah blah,
and Mark kept saying, not here, David, not here, David,
not right now, David, Andthen Donna says, she looks and she

(31:11):
sees Mark and David standing like toeto toe, like belly's touching, red
faced, like about to go atit. Oh shit, and she's yeah,
and she's like, oh shit,what do I do? So her
first thought was I'll go get Shelley, and then quickly she's like, no,
not gonna go get Shelly, becauseShelley will be the first to swing

(31:32):
on someone did not go get me. Looked like panic eyed and caught eyes
with Heidi's Mark's wife, and shecame over was like, hey, Mark,
come on's go for a walk.Let's let's let's and you know too,
goo away. Bit that's David.He doesn't care that he's at his
dad's funeral in a church. He'sjust like gonna do what he's gonna do.

(31:52):
Here comes the better part. Sothere's the open casket viewing, which
was fine, and again I justdidn't have like that overwhelming emotion like I
did with my with my mom.You know, I kind of said goodbye
to my dad and that was that. It just and I keep kind of
like waiting for the emotion. Butit's been a couple months now and it

(32:13):
just isn't just a different kind ofgoodbye with him. Yeah, yeah,
I think so. But it kindof sounds like it matched your relationship,
Like your goodbye with your mom matcheswhat your connection with her was, and
you're goodbye with your dad was like, h just this surface. It's a
person who had something to do withyour life, but like you didn't have
the same emotional connection to your dad. Yeah, for sure. Of course,

(32:34):
the grandkids were all in tears,and it was again sweet to see
all of my kids comforting each otherand the cousins comforting each other. I
talked about in the last episode thatI had decided not to speak at my
dad's funeral because I just couldn't comeup with what I would say. Yeah,
and that I'm glad that that wasthe case, because I didn't feel
like really preparing anything. Another thingwith planning for the funeral is that Mike

(32:57):
and Mark and I agreed that no, David will not be speaking at this
funeral either, just like we didn'tlet him speak at my mom's because he's
he's a fucking train wreck. Youyou just wouldn't know what would happen,
no idea. So Mike told David, hey, uh, you know,
before Dad passed, he mentioned thathe would love to have you do the
family prayer there in the family roomjust after the viewing, which was a

(33:23):
lot And Mike told me, He'slike, well, that's a lie.
Dad didn't say anything, but there'sno way that we are going to let
him have the pulpit do anything else. Yeah. No, Well, and
isn't the family prayer. It's beena minute since I've been to a Mormon
funeral, but the family prayer isjust your family with the casket before you
close it to like bless him inthe dirt so you can rise up again.

(33:43):
Isn't that kind of what that's about? Like, that's not an everybody
thing, is it. Yeah,well there were plenty of people there that
I didn't recognize. They don't likekick people out. Okay, I think
the bishop had invited people to leaveif they wanted. But yeah, it's
not like you know, but likethe purpose of the family prayer is like
a goodbye prayer to the dead person, right literally, yes, right,
Okay, it's time for David tohave the microphone and do the goodbye prayer.

(34:07):
Yes, oh my god, Ohmy fucking god. So he did
the goodbye prayer for my mom andit was weird, but it was okay.
I mean, it wasn't more weirdthan what we had expected. You
know. At the end of theprayer, he was like, thank you,
mother, thank you, thank you. It was just like what the
fuck are you doing? Dude?Anyway, but that was nothing compared to

(34:30):
what I'm about to explain to youall. Wait, do we all need
to take a shot before we hearthis story. I feel like this is
it's so fucking good. It's it'sit's like fucking wow, like you got
some malls, dude. So hehas the microphone and there's a dear little
church guy holding the like a speakerso that everyone can hear, and David

(34:52):
starts the prayer, and he startsit off relatively normal with your whole Mormon
like the way you're supposed to becausehis Mormons, you're supposed to pray to
heavenly Father. That's it, right. But then after saying you know,
thank you Father, blah blah lahshit, he starts like he's talking to
my dad, which gets really weirdbecause you know, we don't pray to
people. But he's like, Dad, I'll never this is the middle of

(35:16):
prayer. I'll never forget the timeswe spent fishing and how I learned how
to And we're thinking you made everythingmiserable, bro, Like all these good
times you're claiming you had with Dad, you caused fights between everyone your whole
fucking life. None of my familyvacations were good because of you, dude,

(35:40):
and Mark will see the exact samething, and so will Mike,
because you ruined everything. So imagineDavid, He's standing up there next to
my dead dad praying and saying weirdshit. And then there's all of the
grandkids, both Mormon and not Mormon, like in this big group in the
middle, and then Donna and Iare kind of sitting on the side in

(36:01):
front, but we can see allof the grandkids and I watched them slowly,
like one a time, like opentheir eyes and start looking at each
other of like holy shit. AndMark is like sitting right in the front
of the kids. He's like right, and I can see Mark just like
turning red, like he wants tokill people. Because David's just he's using

(36:24):
his prayer as a platform to saythings. Well, he's like creating this
narrative on the way out the doorthat he gets to have like the last
word on what their relationship was,and he can like totally be in charge
of creating that picture. That isexactly what he's doing. And he's trying
to make it look like he wasthis great son. And you know,

(36:45):
it was so like frustrating that wecouldn't just throw shit at him. But
it gets better. Don't worry.Don't worry. If he'd ended it with
that, it had been like,you know, there's David again. Then
he starts saying because a lot ofit was a lot of the hardship between
the family. There at the endwas David, David's wife Mandy, whatever

(37:05):
it's for a fucking name, Mandy. She's not a good person. Okay,
Yeah, he starts saying in thisprayer to my dad somehow I don't
know, and or he'll say andHeavenly Father. We knowest he's trying to
use like his church words. Weknow it's that my dad loved Mandy and
blessed our marriage. Like what thefuck you want to know? It was

(37:35):
so bizarre, And again we're lookingat each other, and then he starts
talking shit about like how it's importantto be kind, just trying to act
like he's the most amazing, righteous, wonderful person and he's like a father.

(37:55):
I am sorry I couldn't help youmore in your last days because of
things that I wasn't permitted to do. Just throwing all the shit out there
in a fucking prayer, in afucking prayer, and I see Mark's face
getting more and more red. I'mlike, dude, the throwdown might not
have happened out in the foyer,but this shit might go down in front

(38:15):
of my dad. Again, thecousins are just kind of looking at each
other and sort of shrugging. Davidfinishes up and the names he just christ
him. Man, everyone's relieved,right, dude tries to take the microphone
back. David says, I'm notdone. Oh shit. He gets out
his phone and he pushes play onit, holds the phone up to the

(38:38):
microphone, and a commercial starts toplay. And the best part it's a
fucking coffee commercial. So he's tryingto play a song from Spotify, but
he's too fucking cheap. He's toofucking cheap to pay for premium service or

(39:06):
to make a recording to play whateversong he has in mind. So commercial
comes on first and it's for fuckingcoffee, and I am dying. I'm
like, oh my god, becauseI'm realizing now what's happening. And then
the commercial is done, and ofcourse I have to whisper to Donna real

(39:28):
quick, like I have to tellyou why this is so horrible, like
afterwards, because she's like, that'sweird. I'm like, no, it's
not just weird, it's fucking amazing. Actually it's ironic. Yes, yeah,
yeah. So coffee commercial stops andDavid's like, oh, you know,
I've got it, paid it nothave commercials. He's just like it's
like he's on a fair sage.Yes, yes, thank you yes,

(39:52):
So this song starts playing and hits. He's playing this song by Tim McGraw.
By the way, can I justsay my dad would have been horrified
if anyone played anything but like religioustype music at his funeral. Yeah,
because Mormons don't do that. Theydon't, especially not my dad's type of

(40:13):
Mormon. So he starts playing thecall the song Humble and Kind by Tim
McGrath. The music comes on andwe're just all thinking what the fuck?
And even Mandy the wife has lookedlike. He gets her by the hand
and forces her to stand up andkind of sway dance with him. No,
okay, my dead dad is stillthere in front of the cast.

(40:36):
Yes, we're all in this reliefsociety room. It's so bad, I'm
excommunicating him right now. What ohlike Mormon or not? Nobody does nobody
dances in front of a fucking casket. Dude, No, noah, noah.

(40:58):
It was so uncomfortable. But itgets worse when it gets to the
part where it says, always stayhumble and kind. I'm looking at the
lyrics here. He sings those wordsout loud into the microphone while he's sway
and by now it's like the cousinscan't hold it in. These kids,
all of my nieces and nephews.Oh god, I don't remember who it

(41:22):
was. I think it was Donna. Donna was worried because she saw Courtney
and Jenny. Jenny's my daughter,Courtney's her bestie, Courtney's super Mormon,
Jenny not Mormon at all. Theyhad turned their back toward the back row,
and Donna felt so bad for thembecause she saw like like their their
shoulders were shaking, like they werebawling, and she's like, oh,
poor them. But then she seesthem turn around. They are laughing so

(41:45):
hard and like trying not to makesounds, like all all nineteen grandkids are
like huddled up almost together to protectthemselves from this wacky ass shit that's going
on. There's the part in thesong that says don't steal, don't cheat,

(42:06):
and don't lie, and you know, because David is hit a thief
in all of those things, hesays them out loud with the nut now
he's not with the singing voice.He just says, don't steal, don't
cheat, don't lie, Like whatthe fuck? Because he's fucking nuts.

(42:28):
He is fucking nuts and everybody that'sin the funeral thing, like not just
your family, but all the peoplewho stayed are watching this whole show.
Yeah, this shit show, whichI love because he was trying to make
himself look like like great, buthe was just and it's crazy. He
came no, it came running,running, and screaming. Yeah. And

(42:50):
by the way, this song islike so fucking long. It seemed like
it was easily a seven minute song. It kept going yeah and going,
and then you think it was doneand it wasn't, and there was more
singing. And now Donna's trying notto laugh because because Donna telling me,
she's like, every time I lookat your kids and all the grandkids,
they're laughing, and so I'm tryingnot to laugh. But like if anyone

(43:13):
here should not be laughing, it'sme, Like I'm the newest I should
not be laughing, and like wewere all fucking laughing. It was just
like it was unbelievable. It wasit was like you could you didn't even
know how to react, like,well, you don't want to go take
the microphone from him, but youkind of do, but you kind of
don't what's appropriate. You just haveto let it ride. You just have

(43:35):
to let it, like was thebishop in there and everything, because I
feel like that's something that normally,like back in our day, if you
said something wrong for the pulpit,or if you want off I stop it,
or you gave wrong answers in class, they would literally turn off the
microphone or like put their hand onyou and like pull you away or whatever.
Like they didn't just let the crazyfly. It feels like something especially
in a funeral setting, they'd belike, maybe this isn't the time for

(43:59):
this is uh, I think everybody, that's how you know the church isn't
true because he didn't do it.That's right. No lightning came down and
like zapp the fuck out of himspirit a discernment. Oh God, so
fucking bad this. And by theway that I would like to thank my
brother David for really bonding all ofmy nieces and nephews and kids together because

(44:22):
this is something that they still talkabout. There's so many inside jokes now
about this shit. It's so great. Anyway, So the song finally ends
and he says like thank you orwhatever and kisses his wife. I'm like,
he's just so nasty, and thedude takes the microphone, takes the

(44:42):
thing, goes and sits down.So now it's time that everyone who go
back up and say their last goodbyesbefore they close the casket. But now
the feeling is so weird. Sothe grandkids are going up to say goodbye
to Grandpa, but they're kind oflooking at each other like what's going on,
Like I don't know how to feelright now, So they kind of
calm down and they're saying good byeto Grandpa. And then David gets up

(45:04):
again and goes to the middle ofthe room and it's like, excuse me,
sorry, I forgot to say somethinglike the kids are now crying about
Grandpa and you are now saying Iforgot to say something like what the fuck,
dude, be done? And hesays, my dad would want you
all to know that your wife isthe most special person and you should hold
your wife dear and always put themfirst. So fucking weird. So he's

(45:34):
just weird. He's not okay uphere. He's not right. And I
don't mean that as a disrespect topeople who suffer from mental illness, but
he's he's he's just he's a motherfucker, like he's just not a good person.
Yeah, so yeah, all ofthat happened. Then we had the
regular Ask funeral. It was beautiful. It was nice that I just would
sit there. My brothers did agreat job talking well, Mike and Mark,

(45:58):
great job talking to my dad wasgood. The music was fantastic.
The lesbian sisters I was going toask it was. It was amazing.
And afterward, actually Mark and Mikeboth went up and found Kirsten and Ann
and gave him hugs and said,thank you so much. Do you want
to do? You want to cometo the Airbnb later and hang out like

(46:19):
they they're they're good people, theyreally are. But let me back up
just a little bit really quickly.One of my happiest moments was when I
was just buzzing around, you know, greeting people and stuff, and Donna
was sitting or Donna said she sawCassidy just kind of sitting there in one
of the rows, and so shesat down next. He was just kind

(46:39):
of chatting with Cassidy, and thenthis older couple comes in and starts talking
to Cassidy was like, oh hi, Cassy, how are you? And
they hugged and and this is Donnarelaying this this story to me, and
then the woman asked Cassie, so, so who is this you got sitting
next to you? And Cassie's like, this is my mom's girl friend,

(47:00):
Donna that that couple was Brent's parents, my ex husband's parents. Nope,
you know what, I think thechurch is true. Now I think it
is. I think it is.I think it is. I love that.
It wouldn't even have crossed my daughter'smind to be like, oh,

(47:23):
that should be weird. No,she was like all proud and happy.
Oh, this is my mom's girlfriend. Donna like yay, So I love
that. Yay. I'm so happy. You don't have to hide your light
under a bushel anymore. Right,all right, let's wrap up this funeral.

(47:43):
So funeral happened, then the eatingportion happened, and then was the
gravesite service. So I was inone car with Donna and a handful of
kids, and we were headed towardthe grave site. And I had forgotten
to bring stickers to bling out mydad's casket because we decided, well,

(48:04):
let's put let's let the grandkids decoratehis casket too, because we did that
for Grandma. Yeah, why not? So it took me a minute to
find him, so now I'm runningslightly late. And when I got there,
it was like it was about tostart and I literally just like like
slit in on the lawn. Imight have landed on someone's graystone. I
don't know, but everyone was likekind of looking like, oh my gosh,

(48:24):
well Shelley's here, which cracked meup. We get out and the
bagpipe start playing, so we'd hireda bagpipe player, and it was amazing
for your Scottish heritage, yes,my Scottish reminder of those of you who
don't remember. In the last episode, I talked about how my dad was

(48:45):
so proud of our Scottish heritage,and then when I did a DNA test,
we were not Scottish at all,and I didn't have the heart to
tell him because it's so proud.So fuck. Yeah. They were bagpipes.
Yeah, paperback, but that wasbeautiful. And he's as a military
veteran and so they did like thewhat's it called the twenty one gun salute

(49:08):
or what have you. I mean, the whole thing was beautiful. It
really was just very moving, verytouching. I'd never been to a military
funeral and regardless of how you feelabout the military, it doesn't matter that.
For me, there was just somethingI don't know, just seeing like
these old ass veterans shaking hands andjust the whole because my dad would have

(49:29):
loved that. You know, Iwould not want that shit at mine,
of course, but my dad wouldhave loved that. The bagpipes was just
amazing. One thing that David managedto fuck up was all of the kids.
So myself, David, Mike,and Mark, we all received a
flag, an American flag. Itwas a yeah, and David was pissed

(49:50):
because he wasn't handed the flag first. I'm like, are you like?
He was visibly angry. And soafter after the twenty one gun salute thing,
and they bring you like spent shells, well just to keep spent rifle
shells, and they come back withlike a handful of just like I don't
know, seven or eight of them, I don't know, and David grabs

(50:13):
all of them, all of them. Yeah, And so Mark whispers to
me, He's like, oh,I'm gonna I'm getting those damn bullets back.
I'm like, David just just causesproblems, constantly causing problems. And
then the part that I didn't seewas that afterward, whenever it was all
said and done, and people werejust kind of like talking, David starts

(50:34):
following Mark around and trying to startshit with him about this court case,
and Mark's like, not here,not now, not here, not now.
To the point where I think itwas Mike finally had to go over
and was like, dude, justleave, just go leave, And so
he left with this Dave. Yeah, like ask him to leave the cemetery.
Yes, yeah, yeah, that'sthat's my sibling. But the kids

(50:59):
did a great job. They decoratedthe casket. I'll throw some pictures up
on Patreon of that. I mean, all in all, it was just
it really was a good funeral,with of course the great story to tell
about freaking David taking over the familyprayer. Yeah, can you believe?

(51:20):
I mean I can't, I can, and I can't believe it, but
I also can because I know David, and it's just like honestly, Well,
then and then after the funeral,when we all got back, it
was like we had to all sitthere and decompress and like talk about what
had just happened, yeah, whichwas like insane. Well, and the
fact that that like shadowed over everything, like managing his behavior and like watching

(51:45):
him to see what he was goingto do next, like the trauma response
of doing all that kind of stuff. That's and he I'm sure believes that
he did the right thing. Hewas righteous in his choices because he's super
Mormon, right, well, hepretends to be when he needs to.
That's I still gotcha. But like, even not being Mormon for so long,

(52:07):
how what year did you leave thechurch? I don't remember this.
I was forty and I'm forty ninenow I was like forty one, so
I don't know, eight eight years. So even though roughly you haven't been
a member and you don't do thisstuff, you still know what the like
criteria are, Like you still knowwhat the expected behaviors are in places even

(52:27):
if you were Mormon, you don'tdo shit like that at a funeral,
But the fact that you were allraised Mormon and he's Mormon quotation marks and
then still chose to do those behaviorsin those spaces, Like I would not
even do that, and I don'tcare for anything about Mormonism, but I
would never like overtly disrespect an entireenvironment. That's meant for somebody else like
that. But that's been David's entirelife. I damn always about him,

(52:52):
always about him. But yeah,again, I have to say that this
has given us more inside jokes asa family than could ever ever wish for.
Like literally, in twenty years,your your nieces and nephews with your
kids are just gonna be like youremember that one fucking time? Oh yeah,
Oh well, I saw Mark andHeidi's kids just last weekend in Las

(53:14):
Vegas for a wedding and we werewe were joking about it. We're like,
who's gonna Who's gonna play the Timmcgrass song at the wedding? Like
of course we're you know how likewhen you would leave and I don't know
if this is a Mormon culture thingor whatever, you would also say like
remember who you are and what youstand for or whatever. Now you just
gotta be like I always be humbleand kind. That just has to be,

(53:34):
Like your Christmas card needs to havethat, Like you guys got to
use this for a hot minute,just to like y put it to the
other side of wackado, like thefunny, appreciative side instead of like the
traumatic. I can't believe they didthat at a funeral. Old side this
big don't forget to hold your wives, make them number one. Mm hmmm,
fucking as. I was really hoping, I'm not gonna lie, I'm

(53:55):
gonna give you a confessional. Iwas really hoping there was an actual fist
fight, and I imagine Donna likein the middle, like using her arms
to like separate these big men andbeing like not today, and they were
just like going at it with eachother. Because the cliffhanger, I was
like, Oh, there's gonna bethere's some physicality. There's got to be
an actual fight happening. Well,sorry to disappoint that there wasn't a fight

(54:17):
at my dad's funeral. Yeah no, but there was some creepy ass weird
song singing. And you know,gentle David did his best. He did
his best to ruin everything without shit. I know, I know I have
not heard a word from him since, so yay, I will maybe a

(54:39):
yeah, we can we can help. Well, and you guys don't really
have any reason to keep connection tohim or his family. Nope, nope,
not a one. Right, I'llfind it. I'm trying to think.
I mean, I guess that wasabout it for the funeral. The
rest of the time was just hangingout and the kids playing, and you

(55:00):
know, it was good, Itwas really really good. But yeah,
that's it. Wrap it up.Parents are gone. Fucking weird, oh
weird. Well, and you probablyhave the same thing like you did with
the last one, where when youlisten to this one, like even though
this one's more on the side ofthe you won't fucking believe this part,
like right, the reminder of itbeing what your new reality is. Yeah,

(55:23):
yeah, it's definitely interesting. Yeah, so there was again, So
that was my mom had passed,and then it was I think six months
later my uncle, and then mydad like a few days later. Yeah,
right, because that whole thing.And then my dad's sister died a
few weeks after he passed, andthen his uh stepsister just passed away last

(55:49):
week, and his step stepsister's husbandjust passed away today. So basically everyone's
dying. I know. It's fuckingcrazy. It's fucking crazy. It's like
all your aunts and uncles are dying. Yeah, there's one left, my
God and the one that's left,uncle Mike. He actually spoke at the
funeral and we were worried because dude, like you just don't know because he's

(56:09):
super old. But he was awesome. He was Oh good, Let's keep
him around for a while. Thenlet's do let's let's let's do that shit.
That's it, they're dead. Yeah, that's a lot though, Like
that's a whole chapter of your lifethat is just closed. Yeah. I'll

(56:30):
probably sit and think about this fora while after we're after we're done with
the recording. Yeah, it's big. I'm glad you share with everybody.
It normalizes all the weird shit.I mean, not normalizing weird things,
but like talking about hard conversations andgrief and stuff, because that's one of
the other things about in my opinion, leaving Mormonism is we talked about this

(56:52):
at the last podcast, like you'renever allowed to have bad feelings. You're
not supposed to express anger, everythinglike that is satan and bad, and
so you're never taught how to managegrief at that level or like the feelings
that you have with your siblings,and so like having conversations about uncomfortable emotional
things or big things like that wasI don't ever feel like that was allowed

(57:13):
or something like a skill set youwere taught in church of how to manage
those relationships and emotions. So Ilove talking about the weird shit and just
saying things and being like, hey, we're just gonna put this shit out
there, and I think it's onto talk about it. Yeah. Yeah,
I feel like in Mormonism, likeemotions aren't even talked about, Like

(57:34):
there's there's just not a platform,you know, there's no I wasn't taught
how to process any kind of emotions, and you know, rais being raised
a very patriarchal family. Emotions werebad, they were weak. Yeah,
so I was not prepared for anemotional life, yeah, to kind of
jump into that shit. Well,and even with funerals, like you're only

(57:58):
supposed to be sad for like thismuch time because they're in a better place
or they're you know, they're withGod now, Like you're not even allowed
to be sad about somebody dying.And that even happens with Like there's this
thing going around for a while onTikTok about like emotions and Mormonism and women

(58:19):
who had suffered the loss of achild in any capacity or families who had
suffered that, and how they literallydon't let you grieve because you must be
so righteous that you were given thisbaby that didn't even have to be born
or whatever. Like processing grief isnot allowed or taught, and you're just
supposed to be really grateful that they'rewithin heaven now instead of on this terrible

(58:40):
earth with you. It's so fuckingweird. It is weird. Yeah,
it's it's so it's And maybe peoplethink that they're cheering the person up by
saying, well, they're in abetter place, but let me be sad,
you know. Yeah, do youremember the story that went around in
the early nineties, I want tosay, and it was told over the

(59:01):
pulpit numerous times. I'm sure it'sa lie about how there was a kid
whose face was deformed and he wasalways like so sad about having a deformed
face and it made his life difficult, and then when he got his patriarchal
blessing, he was told that thereason he was born with a deformed face
is because he fought so hard inthe pre existence against Satan that God made

(59:25):
his face so that Satan couldn't Satancouldn't recognize him and tempt him on earth.
And so what a great powerful thing, Like, what the fuck is
that? I hate shit like that? I hate it? Can I go
on a tiny rant really fast?Do it? Okay? So let's pretend
that I did some uber driving fora hot minute, which I really loved

(59:45):
because I got to meet the weirdestdamn people in Cash Valley and I love
it because Mormon Zone Uber, soit was like all the outsider people.
Anyway, I pick up this kidthat's disabled and he's going he's going to
a shift at di I and he'smentally disabled. And he gets in the
car right away and he's telling mehow things are going to be, and
I'm like, oh, I'm herefor this. I love it, he

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says, right in the front seat, and he's like, I'm putting my
cup here, I've got my shiftat DI And I'm like great. And
he goes into this like recitation thathe's been taught to say to people,
this story that he gives about howhe had stage three cancer for something and
he almost died of something else,but his parents have taught him that God

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saved him for a purpose, andhe's the only person who have survived this
type of cancer. And I mean, and he's probably forty to fifty years
old and very obviously disabled mentally.But he's been told this thing to say
to people about how he knows thathe's important to God and that he has
a message, and there's something he'ssupposed to be telling. And the asshole

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in me the entire time, whileI appreciate his story and he was the
sweetest kid ever, I was justthinking, what do you tell the mom
of the four year old kid whodidn't survive the cancer thing that she didn't
have a story to tell and shewasn't worth keeping around and whatever. But
it was like this whole campaign typething. Like I said earlier, like
here's why you should join this churchis because we have disabled people who uh

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survived cancer, because we have thepower. He got priestood blessings all the
time, and one time somebody whogave him a blessing had been blessed by
somebody who touched a prophet once orsomething. It was this whole thing,
and I was like, God,the manipulation of this person to tell a
story, And while it was supposedto be something sweet that he was sharing
about, like his survival, Iwas just mad the whole fucking time.

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I was so mad. No,I feel that. Yeah, I hate
that shit, I know it.Oh, we could do a whole last
episode about that, right, thewhole being like grateful when people die because
like I can't, I can't getit. I can't get I can't.
Yeah. Yeah, and the wholefield well, and the whole thing about
God deciding who dies and who doesn't. Yeah, like that noise. No,

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yeah, it's just it's not that'snot good because that means there's that
means that there are some people thatGod doesn't give a shit about, right,
and some of the people that he'skeeping alive. We might need to
check on his own mental health,because what the fuck are you doing?
God? Yeah? Yeah, whyis that person still around? Yeah?
No, I agree, I agree. Dropping names all right, Jennifer,

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we fucking did it. We gotthrough the funerals. Oh, now it's
time to move forward. I feellike like the like almost all of my
podcasts since Segment solo, they've allbeen like sad and death, had a
lot of shit happening, though,I know, can I do a happy

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one for once? Let's do itlike we're on the first to June or
something. Yes, Yes, let'sget let's start to brainstorming, and yeah,
Dan, leave this in. We'reletting the people know what's up.
So we're we're gonna. I've gotsome ideas, and people been sending in
some ideas and Jennifer even did apoll in one of the Facebook pages to
get some ideas of what people wantout talk about. So let's do it.

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What do you say? Leave itin? Dan? Yeah? And
yes, by the way, Danfrom Extension Audio, thank you for leaving
it in. And I guess that'sit for now. Steer clear of cults
because they are no joke, nojoke at all. There it is all
right bye everybody. Bye. Letme start that over in nipp Fuck me,

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sorry Dan, Okay, here wego.