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March 25, 2025 22 mins

How can L&D make their case to the C-Suite and prove ROI quickly? In this episode, Dan sits down with Donna Verdi, Head of Learning and Talent Development at Kroll. Donna is an award-winning Head of Talent Development with over 24 years of experience. She shares her insights into how to engage with the leadership team and tactics to quickly demonstrate the value of L&D initiatives. 

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Key Quotes:

“Looking at, what is it we could do as baby steps, I call it small quick wins, to demonstrate that delivery? And rather than taking six months to build something, where is it you can run in an agile sprint and turn something around in four weeks and drop it back into the business?”

“The sponsorship of somebody in those initial conversations is really, really important.  I would never go in cold to a number of those senior stakeholders and do introductions. I actually let one of my peers or my boss do those initial introductions and provide the context of why I'm here and what I'm here to work on.”

“ And so when you are saying you are going to do something, you need to follow up with evidence of doing it and very quickly. Don't overcommit… bring it all the way back to something that's really simple, really achievable and you can then show those small improvements… whilst building towards that bigger picture.”

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Time stamps:

(01:05)  Proving ROI and making the L&D Case to the C-Suite

(13:54)   60-second budget segment 

(16:36)   Lifelong learning segment

(19:22)  Self development hacks

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Links:

 Donna Verdi on LinkedIn

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