What if the worst day of your life was actually part of a divine plan to save someone else?
In this powerful episode of Latter-day Lights, Tracy Jo Rollins returns to share the miraculous story of her near-fatal car crash, the traveling angels who protected her, and the unexpected calling that followed. From life-threatening injuries to divine protection, her story will leave you breathless and believing in miracles.
As a former jockey, educator, mindset coach, and now pageant titleholder, Tracy Jo has lived a life of resilience and purpose. But nothing could have prepared her for what happened on January 14th.
Through vivid memories of the crash, the kindness of strangers, and the unmistakable presence of God, Tracy walks us through how that one moment became a turning point that redefined her faith and mission.
This episode isn’t just about surviving tragedy. It’s about choosing joy, finding purpose in pain, and remembering that God is in the details—even when the road takes a turn you never expected.
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Scott Brandley (00:00):
Hey everyone, I'm Scott Brandley.
Alisha Coakley (00:02):
And I'm Alisha Coakley.
Every member of the church hasa story to share, one that can
instill faith, invite growth andinspire others.
Scott Brandley (00:10):
On today's episode, we're going to hear how
a horrific accident andmiraculous recovery taught one
woman to trust in the Lord withall of her heart.
Welcome to Latter-day Lights.
Hey everyone, welcome back toLatter-day Lights.
(00:33):
We're so glad you're here withus today.
And before we jump into ourepisode, we mentioned last week
that we were going to do alittle mini-series about the
launch of my new book, faith toStay.
It's not quite ready yet, so itmight be a few weeks out, so
stay tuned for that.
But I just wanted to let youknow about that change, but it's
(00:54):
coming.
In the meantime, we have somemore great episodes to be able
to share with you, and ourepisode today is Tracy Jo
Rollins.
Welcome back to the show, tracy.
Alisha Coakley (01:06):
Thank you, so good to be back.
I know I'm so excited to haveyou.
I'm literally so happy that youare here, because your story
today may not have even existed.
You may not be here on thisearth at this point with
everything that happened.
What?
Was it it about a year ago,maybe not that long, it was in
(01:28):
January.
Was it that?
Was it that short ago?
Oh, my gosh yeah.
Tracy Jo Rollins (01:33):
It was just 15 months ago, wow.
Alisha Coakley (01:37):
Okay, it was just insane to me.
Well, you know what.
I'm looking at you and you look.
Okay, I'm not going to spoil it.
Anyway, I'm so glad you're here.
I'm so glad that you're here totell your story, that
everything worked out the waythat it did, um, and just to
have you back on the show, causewe just loved you and my, my
cheeks were hurting last timeyou're here and I'm sure that
(01:58):
they're hurting again and mymakeup's going to be smeared
from crying.
But but, before we get intoyour story, tracy, do you want
to remind listeners just alittle bit about yourself?
You know where you're from,what you do, all those things,
yeah, sure.
Tracy Jo Rollins (02:12):
I have been between Arizona and Utah for the
last 40 years.
I am a mom of seven and agrandma of four and that's the
best thing about life is my kids, my grandkids.
I've been able to do somereally amazing things in my life
(02:34):
and one of those was being aprofessional jockey for about
seven years.
And I have taught school andI'm an artist, and not right now
.
I'm a certified mindset coachand a certified mental wellness
coach, and I love it.
I'm in the middle of doing athree-day bootcamp for Leslie
(02:56):
Householders, rare Faith, sotoday was day one and we'll
finish up in two days.
I love teaching genius bootcamps they're so amazing.
Alisha Coakley (03:08):
Oh my gosh.
The genius boot camp was thefirst one that I did with Leslie
Householder and I'm not goingto spoil anything but holy cow
Like that day three.
It changed my you know, whatI'm talking about.
Yeah, of course you do.
Tracy Jo Rollins (03:25):
It was like this is my 29th genius bootcamp.
Alisha Coakley (03:28):
What that was like everything came to this
beautiful little like fruitionat the very end, where it
clicked and I was like, oh mygosh, it was.
I can't even praise enough ofthe genius bootcamp Like it.
Scott Brandley (03:42):
Just it was just phenomenal, scott praise enough
of the genius bootcamp like itjust.
Alisha Coakley (03:47):
It was just phenomenal, scott, you'd love it
, just do it.
Tracy Jo Rollins (03:49):
Probably I'm always making scott do stuff
sometimes it's hey I read.
Scott Brandley (03:53):
Since our last podcast, I did read one of her
books, the jackrabbit okay yougotta go read hidden treasures.
Tracy Jo Rollins (04:00):
That's the one that I like, love the most yes,
hidden treasures and dredgersis about the seven universal
laws.
The Jackrabbit factor is abouta family and how they learn
about the laws.
And then she portal to geniusis the sequel, and it really
does talk about your portal toyour genius.
It's really amazing.
Alisha Coakley (04:18):
Yeah, yeah.
I'm sure, and miss Tracy, sidenote, did you just participate
in a pageant of some kind?
I thought I saw something likethat on Facebook.
What was that?
Tracy Jo Rollins (04:31):
It's so funny.
It's like life can change on adime, like one minute you're in
the hospital and the next minuteyou are winning a title.
So yeah, I it was so it.
It was um Ms Utah is the titlethat I have.
Alisha Coakley (04:54):
Okay, wow.
Tracy Jo Rollins (04:57):
I had no idea that was in my uh coming up in
my life and I actually had theformer miss uh Mrs USA speaking
at my genius bootcamp and shesaid you should come do this
with me and I had no idea that.
But I really feel impressed thattheir, their platform is pretty
(05:21):
amazing.
It's you Now I am aspokesperson and I will be a
national spokesperson, uh forviolence against women and
children, just advocating forhelping with those kinds of
things, and I'm excited to seewhat I get to do, um, for this
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next year.
And also I'm really excitedbecause I feel like I'm going to
have a platform to promote mybook.
Alisha Coakley (05:52):
Oh, I love that.
That's amazing.
Well, congratulations on all ofit.
All right, well, I I think weshould get right into it.
Tracy, just a few months ago.
I don't know if that's wherewe're starting or if you want to
start back a little further,but go ahead and take it away.
Tracy Jo Rollins (06:14):
Okay, I am really excited to share this
with you.
The things that I've learned inthis past five years have kind
of culminated up to whathappened January 14th, and my
life will never be the sameagain.
So I I have been writing a bookcalled on a dime.
(06:37):
I think it's important for youto know that in this book it's
about seven people whose liveschange on a dime.
They're all true stories ofdifferent people, and one of
them that I'm working on rightnow.
His name is Jeff Olson, andJeff Olson, he had a near-death
experience after a horrificaccident that he had back in
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1997, where he lost his wife andhis baby 97, where he lost his
wife and his, his baby, and Iremember, like just in, in his
experience, he was able to go tothe other side and he has an
experience with the divine, withGod, and he is told that
everything's by divine designand that there are no mistakes.
(07:20):
And we're here to learn.
We're here to learn to loveeach other and ourselves.
So, with that little preface ofyou know the things that I've
been reading and studying andlearning about, let's go to
January 14th, 2025.
I am heading to Arizona becauseI want to help my son with his
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rugby team and I want to do afundraiser where I was going to
go pick citrus in Arizona.
They just moved from Arizonaand have lots of friends with
citrus trees, and then I wasgoing to sell the citrus in Utah
and by the time I left for mytrip I had 40 orders, so I was
(08:06):
pretty excited.
Then I was going to head on toDallas to see my other two kids
and my grandkids and then headback home.
I was very excited about thetrip.
I'd been praying about it.
If I should fly or drive, Ifelt like I should drive to
Arizona and do the citrus thingand head to Dallas and then head
home, so I felt really goodabout that.
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Now, on the day that I was toleave, I had packed up a lot of
Christmas presents for my Dallaskids, cause I knew I was going
to head that direction.
In January I have a conventionfor my business out there, so I
knew I was going to head there.
So I had all their presentspacked up in the car and I also
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had the car full of apple boxesso I could put the oranges and
grapefruits and lemons in.
So here I am, I'm just loadeddown and I remember going to get
in the car and I looked up andI said, god, am I forgetting
anything?
And I had the feeling to goback in my house and so I did.
(09:13):
I looked around and I thoughtthere's nothing here, what you
know, why am I back here in myhouse?
And then I had the feeling youforgot to pray and I said, oh
shoot, I didn't.
So I went to kneel down to saya prayer and I heard this voice
say ask for traveling angels.
(09:34):
And I said that's prettyamazing, traveling angels, I
like that.
So I said, well, god, thank youfor the traveling angels, like,
bring them on.
And I, I was really, god, thankyou for the traveling angels,
Like, bring them on.
I was really excited that I gotto have traveling angels with
me and I really didn't thinkanything else about it.
I remember I got to page,arizona, and after page there's
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a long stretch of highway thatgoes through the reservation and
I was thinking to myself oh, Ihave enough gas to make it to my
favorite gas station, speedy,on the reservation, because it's
a dollar cheaper.
So I thought I'll make it Landthe spelling, go back to Page
and get gas.
I didn't want to get strandedout.
(10:21):
It's so dark on the strip ofland in the night.
So I thought, well, okay, Iwent back, I gassed up.
There were a couple of things Idid that I don't normally do.
I wear my purse cross body andI got out and I filled up, and
then I get back in the car andnormally take off my purse and
put it in passenger seat.
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I left it on, so I had my purseon.
And then the other thing that Idon't normally do is I kicked
off my shoes.
They were hot and they werehurting my feet and I just
kicked my shoes off and pushedthem to the side.
So now it's just my littlestocking feet.
I drive in my car and I'm on myway and I'm just minding my own
(11:05):
business and I'm about an hourout of page heading towards
Cameron, if you want.
Any of you know where that is.
And I I just remember like Iwas listening to a book on
audible and I, all of a sudden,I just noticed in front of me
there were headlights and Ithought that's really strange
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and that's all I could reallythink.
And then I was hit and I wasspinning and I thought, wait a
minute.
I, this is not the plan.
So I was having thisconversation with God and I said
, excuse me, I think you made amistake because this is not the
plan.
I remember I'm going to Arizonato pick citrus to do the help
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my son, you know, with rugby andnow I'm not going to get my car
fixed.
And then Jeff Olson's voice,because I've listened to over 50
hours of different interviewswith Jeff and interviewed him
myself, so I heard I hear Jeff'svoice saying there are no
mistakes.
(12:12):
And I thought, oh my gosh, ifthere are no mistakes and
everything's by divine design,then this is the plan.
I was meant to get hit and I'mspinning in the desert.
And so at that point I I justlet it go and I said, okay, god,
(12:32):
just hold me, just hold me.
And I completely had forgottenabout traveling angels.
But I can tell you, I literallywas.
Everything was spinning aroundand I felt like I was.
I was bouncing up and down likeboom, boom, boom, but my head
did not go back and forth likethis.
(12:54):
I didn't feel like my body wasmoving.
I felt completely calm andstill watching things spinning
around me.
And then I stopped and I I tooka deep breath and I thought, oh
my gosh, I think I'm okay.
And I I started to move myfingers and my toes and I moved
(13:20):
my head, my shoulders and myback and I said, okay, I'm not
paralyzed.
And, gosh, I was just thinkingabout the person that you know,
who I've been reading about, andall the horrific accident that
he had.
And I thought I'm okay, I don'tthink I have any internal
injuries.
And I looked in the rear viewmirror to see if I was bleeding
(13:44):
and I realized there wasn't arear view mirror.
And I started looking around mycar and I was in shock because
the front end it was just amangled bunch of metal pushed up
to me and I was trying to makesense of where's the door, where
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where's the dashboard.
And then I looked down and thesteering wheel was literally in
my pelvis, on my purse, and Ithought, oh my gosh, I'm so glad
that purse was there.
And I thought, oh my gosh, I'mso glad that purse was there.
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And I don't know exactly why, Ikicked my shoes off, but I
really felt like there was apurpose for that.
So we'll get to that later, butat this point I'm sitting there
and I can't move becauseeverything is literally pushed
up to my legs and to my chestand I'm thinking okay, I'm okay,
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but and then, all of a sudden,I hear voices and I thought,
well, that's fast.
And I?
I look in front of me, thewindshield's just smashed, but
it's not.
It's still intact.
Except right in front of myface there's a piece pulled up
about, this big, and then I seea face looking in that little
(15:15):
piece of the window and it was aman and he looked in and he
said are you okay?
And I said I think so.
Now, I wasn't't talking likethat.
This is how I was talking, Ithink so.
Everything was in slow motionand I could barely talk.
(15:37):
And he looked at me and he saidyou were just hit by a drunk
driver.
And I said no, because peopledon't live through that.
And he said I know.
And he said what can I do foryou right now?
And I said and I don't knowthis man from any, I mean, I
(15:59):
don't know anything about him.
I just said will you pray forme?
Thing about him.
I just said will you pray forme?
And he said I would love topray for you.
I'm a pastor and I said what Ifthere's anybody that I would
have standing at my window?
Scott Brandley (16:19):
it would be an off-duty.
Tracy Jo Rollins (16:19):
EMT or a pastor, and he reached his hand
through the shards of glass andgrabbed my hand and he held it.
It was my right hand, because Irealized I couldn't really move
my left hand, in fact my wholeleft side.
I knew something was wrong withmy left side, so he held my
hand and he prayed and he saidI'm not letting go of you until
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you're safe in an ambulance.
Or he said there's actually ahelicopter coming from Flagstaff
and an ambulance coming fromTuba city.
Whichever one gets here firstis going to take you.
If it's the ambulance, they'llstabilize you and get you, like
lighted, to Flagstaff.
And I said okay.
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And then this other person, whoI later found out was his 15
year old son, comes to thewindow and he's holding
something and he said is thisyours?
And I didn't realize what amiracle this was until a couple
of weeks later.
I was just writing down thewhole experience in my journal.
And he said is this yours?
(17:23):
And it was my phone.
And I said yes, that's my phone.
Where was it?
And he said just out on thedesert.
And I said oh my gosh, thankyou for finding it.
And he said and is this yourcredit card?
And I said, wow, yes.
So he handed me my phone and Icalled my mom and later I
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thought about it and I thoughtyou know what, my phone could
have flown to the back of thecar and I wouldn't have been
able to call my mom, who calledmy kids that live in Arizona.
I have three children that livein Arizona and they immediately
started to drive out to Tubicity hospital.
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We found out that's that'swhere I was going to go was the
ambulance was almost there, sothey had already started their
drive out there.
And my mom I was able to keeptalking to her and she just kept
saying don't leave me, don'tleave me, because all I could
say, keep saying to her is mom,I'm broken, I'm broken.
(18:31):
And then I had the preachersaid can I talk to your mom?
And he explained what hadhappened.
And so the next thing thathappened was, um, the ambulance
came and they wanted to comeinto the passenger side and I,
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like I said, I knew there wassomething wrong with my left
side and I don't remembergetting hit by airbags.
But when I started to lookaround I saw all these strange
looking pieces of material allover my car and I later realized
that those were broken airbagsand I just remember the
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headlights and boom and thenspinning.
So I don't remember at allbeing hit by airbags.
But later in the hospital Ilooked at my face and I look
like I got punched in the faceby an airbag and I was.
It was burned and and all that.
So the, the ambulance wastrying to get me out.
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The ambulance people wanted toget me out the passenger side
and I looked at the preacher andI said please don't let them
get me out the driver's side,because I can just slide out
like this.
I don't think that they'regoing to rip me apart by trying
to pull me across the.
So he said well, the good newsis and I'm also a mechanic and I
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know that this vehicle has someclips on the door and I can
take the door off.
They didn't have to jaws oflife get me out or anything,
cause he found the clips on thedoor.
I got the door off, wow.
And then they pulled me out.
I had to lay backwards and putmy feet out like this.
And then they said, okay, I hadsweatpants on.
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And they said, okay, we'regoing to grab your sweatpants
and pull, pull you out.
And I said, you guys are goingto give me the biggest wedgie.
And they all started laughingbecause they're like, oh my gosh
, here's this woman.
So I was making jokes and itwas that was good Cause they
were.
They were like, okay, I thinkshe's okay, but I was in shock
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and I had asked them to take apicture of the car, which I
think I can give you guys apicture and you can put it on
here somewhere, right, yes, yeah.
So I was able to get out andthey, they took me to Tuba city
hospital where I I found outthat I didn't have to be life
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flighted to Flagstaff because Ihad zero life threatening
injuries and if you saw my caryou would hardly believe it,
because the whole front end isgone and it's just a little
bubble around the seat that Iwas sitting in.
Alisha Coakley (21:20):
Yeah, I remember the pictures.
I was like what?
Scott Brandley (21:24):
the hell.
Tracy Jo Rollins (21:25):
Yeah.
When my insurance guy saw it,he said wait a minute, this is
the vehicle you were in.
And I said yes, and he said Ido this all day, every day.
I do not talk to people whowere in the car like this.
He said I I can't believe I'mtalking to you, but you know,
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it's like when I was, when, whenI was spinning in the car, it
was almost like ingratitude.
Uh, because I had that visionof this is meant to be.
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This is, this is the plan forme.
This is what I came toexperience.
But the other thing that youneed to know is, later on, my
former state president was ableto give me a blessing shortly
after the accident and in thatblessing he said this was his
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very first words were Tracy,tracy, joe.
This was not a coincidence,this was by divine design.
And the end of that blessing hesaid you are an angel on earth
who saved a family.
And he didn't even know thatthere was a family behind me
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that had pulled over and theythey came up to preach her and
they passed her and they said isshe okay?
And he said I think she's goingto be okay.
She's going to be okay.
And the man said I just want totell you see the car I'm
driving, my wife and my threekids are.
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It was a small car and he saidwe wouldn't have made it.
We wouldn't have made it.
I don't wish anything on herbut I'm glad she was in front of
us.
And you know there's a couple ofthings that happened prior to
this accident.
This pastor had been followingthe drunk driver for 10 miles
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and they were trying to get himoff the road and at one point he
slammed into a parked dieseland they thought, okay, he's
going to stop.
And they were getting out oftheir car to go see if he was
okay and the bumper had fallenoff of his vehicle.
He backed it up and went andthat's when he went down um, the
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roundabout, the wrong way andentered the freeway, this piece
of highway, the wrong way andthey said, oh no, he's going to
hit someone.
It's not if it's when and thepastor Brandon is his name.
Brandon looked at his son andhe said let's pray right now for
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whoever he hits.
And so Brandon told me.
The next day at the hospital,brandon and his son came and
they told me the backstory.
They said, tracy, jo, we prayedfor you before it even happened
and we asked God, whoever hehits, that not only will they
live, but they'll be fine.
Alisha Coakley (24:46):
Wow so, oh my gosh.
Tracy Jo Rollins (24:55):
I feel so grateful.
I had 10 broken bones and itjust took a while, you know, to
for all of that heal and um, acouple of other minor things.
But when he told me that storyI just felt like God is in the
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details, he knows what's goingon, he knows what's going to
happen.
What's going on, he knowswhat's going to happen and it
was perfectly timed for me to goback to page and get that gas
so that I would be right thereto take that hit.
And you know, I I don't knowexactly what happened to the
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other driver is 25 years old andhe rolled and rolled and he was
ended up upside down and I saidpastor, let's pray for him and
pastor's like um.
He didn't want to because hewas very upset at this person.
So my mom later told me shesaid you were on, I could hear
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you on the phone and she saidyou prayed for this, you prayed
for him and still pray for him.
They told me that when he gotgot out of the hospital he would
immediately be arrested,because the FBI takes over,
because when it's on thereservation it's not.
You can't have local police,it's now federal.
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So the FBI took over that wholesituation and um, um, what I
know is that God was literallythere holding me.
I have no doubt in my mind thathe knew what was going to
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happen and I was there for areason and my life was spared,
you know.
But I do want to say this I hadone woman say to me oh my gosh,
god sure does love you.
He saved your life.
And I said well, let me ask youthis question If I would have
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died, would God have not lovedme, or would he have loved me
any less?
And she said oh my gosh, I'm sosorry, like you're right.
She said oh my gosh, I'm sosorry, like you're right,
because I think about sometimeswe're.
I remember being in church andand this woman is talking about
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how God loved her baby so muchthat she, he healed her child,
and that's the love of God.
And I'm sitting next to a womanwho lost her child.
Yeah, so that's just.
I just wanted to bring that upbecause if I was a mangled mess,
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he would have loved me the same.
If I would have died, he would.
It's not because he didn't loveme.
Scott Brandley (28:03):
He loves me, just the same.
Tracy Jo Rollins (28:05):
It's just that this was my mission is to now
share the miracle.
And really I asked God mypurpose and he said to help
people remember that miraclesstill exist.
And you're the example, existand like and you're the example
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you know, and I love that thatI'm writing this book about
these seven people who they'retrue stories to real life people
who've had they're alldifferent scenarios.
One was uh one was parents of asuicide.
Um.
One was a man who was marriedfor 30 years and his wife walked
in and said guess what I'mleaving you?
And he lost his wife and hishouse and his job, everything
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within two weeks.
And how these people?
In fact, I don't know if youknow Meg Johnson, but she just
gave me permission to be one ofthe people in my book.
Alisha Coakley (29:02):
Um, do you know who Meg Johnson is?
I do, yep, yeah.
Tracy Jo Rollins (29:06):
So if there's people out there listening that
don't know, meg Johnson, lookher up.
But she was hiking Zions andwas jumping from rock to rock to
rock and when she went to jumpfor the last one, it was
actually a mirage.
It was across a ravine and shehad just jumped off a cliff and
she became a paraplegic.
Scott Brandley (29:27):
So oh, I know her yeah.
Alisha Coakley (29:29):
She works with our turtle house and yeah, yeah,
yeah.
Scott Brandley (29:33):
I've been to a conference she would that she
spoke at.
Yeah, I didn't, I didn't getthe name, but I know the story
so yeah, that's awesome.
Tracy Jo Rollins (29:43):
Yeah, one thing that I took from I'm just
looking at our time here how arewe doing?
You're good, okay.
One thing that I remember themost from Meg Johnson's
experience was that she wassaying why me, why, why, why did
this happen?
She was laying in bed andwaiting for somebody to come
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turn her and just tears, youknow, coming down her face, and
she said that she had, she had,a vision of herself sitting at
this beautiful desk I'm thinkingit was probably cherry wood, it
was just this beautiful,gorgeous desk and she's in white
and there are people standingaround in white and there is a
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pen and paper and she grabs thatpen and starts signing papers
and she thought can I sign upfor this?
I think she did, wow.
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So that's one thing that I'vereally been pondering about is
are the things that weexperience here on this planet
things that we agreed to?
I think so.
I think we agreed to have theseexperiences so that we could
learn and grow from them andthen we can help other people.
So is there any questions thatyou have for me?
Alisha Coakley (31:12):
Oh, my goodness.
Well, let me go back to to yourrecovery.
So you had 10 broken bones.
How long like was that?
The only thing?
That?
Just 10 broken bones, and, ofcourse, like the bruises on your
face and swelling and stuff buthow long did it?
Take you to get throughrecovery, like to get kind of
back to feeling normal, or areyou still healing?
Tracy Jo Rollins (31:37):
yeah, I, I was told to give it a year.
Really, I had a broken clavicle, I had a plate and screws here
and a broken sternum.
I had broken hand and fingersand a broken tibia and five
broken ribs.
So I was, I was in the hospitalfor five days and then I stayed
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in Arizona at a friend's house,my very good friend's house, my
three kids that lived there.
So my friend, her son, justmarried my daughter.
So that happened while I wasthere in Arizona.
We had a wedding and then wehad my mother-in-law's funeral
while I was there.
So, um it I w.
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I stayed there for a month andthen I went for my follow-up and
while I was recovering.
You know, I really believe thatour thoughts, that we can heal.
For me, I thought I can healfaster if I continually tell
myself I'm healed.
So I did use a lot of my rarefake tools in my healing to stay
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positive, to stay in gratitude,and that was a big one for me.
It was just journalingeverything and staying in
gratitude.
My son he's 23 years old I wasso concerned about all the
people who had ordered fruitfrom me.
So many had already Venmo'd meand I told my son I go, I have
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to get this fruit, and they'relike mom you can't get the fruit
.
My son went and picked the fruitwith his friends and fulfilled
the orders.
Scott Brandley (33:33):
Isn't that so?
Tracy Jo Rollins (33:35):
sweet so.
So when I went back for thefollow-up it was it was my six
week follow-up the two surgeonsthat had worked on me said they
had pins in my hand.
They took the pins out and theysaid you are good to go, like
you're healed, your bones areall good.
(33:56):
They said we can't really lookat your ribs, but everything
else is good.
Now this is as far as I canbend these fingers, so there's
still work.
You know just these littlethings like that, but I'm gosh.
I didn't have to learn how towalk, talk, breathe, eat again.
Alisha Coakley (34:16):
Wow.
Tracy Jo Rollins (34:16):
So I'm very grateful for those 10 broken
bones.
Yeah, um, in one month they inthe six weeks.
No, it wasn't one, but sixweeks.
Uh, I left Arizona and wentback home to Utah and my mom
came, my sister came, but theyreally didn't have to stay very
(34:37):
long.
I just tried to keep going onwith my life.
But I realized there are things,there's some aftermath that I'm
working with the nerve damageand things like that that I had
to just have my foot x-rayed twodays ago because I kept telling
them my feet were broken at thehospital and they kept telling
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me my feet were not broken.
My feet were black and blue andjust swollen, so huge.
I called about three weeks agoto the hospital and I said I
would like to have theradiologist look at my x-rays of
my feet again because my leftfoot still I can sometimes I can
barely walk on it.
(35:19):
And then she came back and shegoes I am really sorry, mrs
Rollins, they did not x-ray yourfeet Really.
Really, they did not x-ray myfeet.
So I did just have my left footx-rayed just a couple of days
ago and they're sending it outto the radiologist and there is
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some kind of weird looking thingon it on the left foot.
So there might be somethingelse, but you know those are
just minor things compared toall of the huge, amazing
miracles you know that happenedwith this whole accident.
Alisha Coakley (36:02):
Oh my gosh Wow.
Scott Brandley (36:05):
I love.
I love how positive you are,even like in the last podcast we
did with you, like you've justyou're.
I do think that the lessonsyou've learned from Leslie
Householder have had a hugeimpact on you.
I mean so much so that you guysconvinced me to read that book,
which was a really good book.
But yeah, I love the idea ofjust living your life in
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gratitude.
That's very empowering.
It changes the way you look atthe world.
Alisha Coakley (36:39):
Yeah Well, so let me ask you, tracy, because
you mentioned that you wanted totake control of your healing.
You knew that you could, youcould heal faster through the
things that you know that we outthere who maybe have no idea,
how do you, how do you, how doyou, I guess, manifest your own
(37:09):
healing in gratitude, what, whatwould you say?
What would you do you know like, was it just journaling, was it
like in prayer, you know, kindof give us an example of some of
the things that you would writeor say to like that's a really
good question and it for me it's.
Tracy Jo Rollins (37:25):
It's there's a little, a lot of different
modalities that you can use toheal.
One of one thing that happenedwas a dear friend.
Her father-in-law does Reikiand long distance and he said do
you mind if I work on you?
And I said I will take anything.
So he did six sessions on meand then he messaged my friend
(37:52):
and he said she's doing, and theday he messaged is true, I was
getting up and walking andmaking my own breakfast that day
, my own breakfast that day.
So here's some of the thingsthat I that I do and I can.
I do them all the time, becauseto me, every day there are
things to heal from.
Every day you can get shot downand in fact my 17 year old he
(38:16):
goes mom, you just get shot downand then you say a prayer and
you get back up again and thenyou get shot down, and then you
say a prayer and you get back upagain, and then you get shot
down and then you say a prayerand you get back up again.
Scott Brandley (38:27):
He's like mom, something's got to change.
Tracy Jo Rollins (38:30):
I said to him.
I said I think the point isthat I get back up again and not
everybody does.
Yeah, so what what I do is I Ido meditation, where I might
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turn on something on YouTube.
I like Joe Dispenza, and Imight listen to a short
meditation and follow what theydo.
I do breath work.
I love breath work.
Breath work, I feel, is theantidote to anxiety.
I like Wim Hof, I like somaticbreath work, kriya yoga, all of
those things that I could dowhen I couldn't really get up
and move and do my yoga, I couldwell let me.
(39:25):
Let me say I learned a lot froma book called man's search for
meaning by Viktor Frankl.
Yeah, I don't read that book.
I highly suggest it becauseViktor Frankl was a survivor of
Auschwitz concentration camps.
Alisha Coakley (39:42):
I just have to say have you read it Scott.
Scott Brandley (39:47):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Alisha Coakley (39:48):
Yeah, so any listener go right now and
download it on Apple.
Tracy Jo Rollins (39:54):
It was oh my gosh you need to like.
Alisha Coakley (40:00):
I should never, ever complain about anything
that I ever go through, everagain.
Yeah, that was a great book.
Tracy Jo Rollins (40:08):
You know, it's true, you know I really so.
So breath, work, um, meditation, and I also envision light
coming in and healing everysingle like.
There were nights when I didn'tlike the pain medication, so I
(40:29):
got off of that as quick aspossible, and so sometimes at
night I would just be in a lotof pain and I would imagine
close my eyes and just imaginethis beautiful white light just
coming through the top of myhead and feeling and going into
every area of my body andsurrounding it and just healing
(40:50):
light and I was just like thankyou, god, for the healing light,
thank you for for everything.
I am whole and I am.
There were just some, somephrases that I'm not going to
say here because they're veryprivate, but there were some
phrases that were coming into mymind of things I needed to say
(41:11):
about my healing.
But I kept saying I am whole, Iam clean, I am forgiven, and
that was interesting and I amhealed.
And that was interesting and Iam healed and I I envision
myself when I went for my sixweek checkup, I just envisioned
that my doctors were going tolook at me and say you can go
(41:33):
like you're good, you can walkon that leg again.
And that's exactly what theysaid to me.
They're like you can walk onthat leg, go ahead, start, you
can go back to the gym.
Yeah, now, granted, it didn'thappen like that because I was
like, okay, and then I found out, oh, I take things a little bit
slower, all right, but I alsomy daughter asked me to make her
(42:00):
wedding cake and that was inFebruary.
So this happened in January14th and her wedding was
February 14th.
So one month later I knew I wasmaking that wedding cake and I
still think about it.
That's only four weeks.
But I was able to get up andstand on one leg and I had a
(42:24):
couple of friends that helped meand we got all of the layers.
I made a naked cake, which is alot easier than most cakes.
But I got all the layers made,froze them.
The next day my daughter that'sa chef she flew in and I made
all the frosting, thebuttercream and the raspberry
filling.
We had all that made and shecame and helped me decorate the
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whole thing.
But that was if you havesomething to live for.
If you have, and that's whatreally what man's search for,
meaning he talks about that alot is having a purpose.
If you don't have a purpose,it's easy to give up.
So, and that's what what I'vebeen teaching for the last five
(43:09):
years in the genius bootcamp is.
Here's my mantra is don't diewith your music and you don't
die with your music and you findyou might be.
You might be a person that's aviolinist and you're over there
playing the drums and you hateit.
So find what your passion is,find what you love and do that.
(43:33):
You know so many people, people.
There's a thing about artistslike starving artists like you
can't make any money.
You know doing art.
I disagree.
I feel like when you find yourpassion you're going to, you can
create wealth doing what youlove you should.
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I think that's the purpose isto come here, use our gifts and
talents to make the world abetter place, to make the world
a better place, fill a need thatis needed in the world, and
everybody has, and I think ofthat song Glorious.
Everyone plays a piece.
It's like a symphony.
(44:13):
Everybody plays a piece, right,and when they do, it's like
this beautiful harmony, thisbeautiful symphony, and we're
all doing our part and makingbeautiful music.
So that's what I love to teachpeople is what their next right
step is how to find it, how toget unstuck and find the music
(44:36):
that you were born with and thatyou are meant to play.
I love that I love that.
Scott Brandley (44:42):
so are you to add your story to your book On a
dime?
Okay?
Tracy Jo Rollins (44:52):
Everyone that knows about the book is like
you're number eight.
You have eight people now.
So here's how I see it going isme writing my story,
introducing myself and writingmy story, and maybe I'm writing
about each person and filling insome of those gaps, leading to
(45:16):
like I might give a littleprelude or, at the end, like I
don't know is that the epilogue?
Scott Brandley (45:22):
or at the?
Tracy Jo Rollins (45:22):
end like I don't know.
Is that the epilogue?
Yeah, so just giving a littlesomething at the end about how
these, how this has affected mylife, why I even started writing
the book and interesting howthis happened right in the
middle of me writing the book soI could have an on the dime
(45:47):
experience.
Alisha Coakley (45:50):
Isn't it funny?
I think we were talking aboutum Scott's book last week and
just how you know he's, he'swritten other books and he's
written them in relatively shortperiods of time, but this, this
book that he has coming outsoon faith to stay is a nine
year process coming out soon.
Faith to Stay is a nine-yearprocess.
Nine years, that's such a longtime.
I'm on six years for my bookright now and I feel the same
(46:13):
way that you just mentionedwhere it's like you know, it's
almost like Heavenly Father'slike okay, well, we're just
going to put that book down fora minute because you've got some
more stuff to learn before youcan continue on to the next
chapters.
You know, it's almost like he'sgiving us little pieces at a
time and he's kind of like let'ssee what you do with this.
Are you actually going to keepwriting when I give you these
lessons?
Are you going to recognize them?
Are you going to tailor them toyour life?
(46:34):
What are you going to learnabout?
What are you going to do, andare you willing to adjust and
trust me?
You know, I think for me,that's one of the things that I
have really had to to learn,especially the last six years.
Um is to adjust and trust.
You know, like, just constantlyin this cycle of adjusting,
trusting, adjusting, trusting,just keep going on and on with
it and I love that so much.
Tracy Jo Rollins (46:57):
adjust and trust.
Alisha Coakley (46:59):
Yeah, I'm like I sometimes I just can't, I'm
like I don't, I put the grapes.
No, I worked so hard and I'mdoing this, and it was like I'm
not trusting, I'm not adjusting,so I'm not moving.
So we just sit and, heavenlyFather, just like, okay, well,
when you're ready we'll moveforward.
You know, and I, I love that,like your perspective has just
(47:20):
been so positive the whole time,even in the middle of spinning
around.
You know, getting hit in thedark of the night, you're just
like okay, just hold me, justhold me.
God, like how I won't even.
You're like a unicorn.
I don't know how anyone could dothat I spiral in the darkness
(47:41):
of life all the time and it'snever like, okay, you got me.
It's like you sure you got me.
I'm just like freaking out overhere.
So I love, I love that you'rejust so positive about it and
that you just really I don'tknow, I guess is it one of those
things where it's like the moreyou do it, the easier it is to
(48:02):
do you know, I can tell you thatI was I, I was I.
Tracy Jo Rollins (48:06):
I teach about one genius boot camp a month.
Okay, and the genius boot campis a three-day, like you start
with a foundation and it buildson itself, teaching these
principles.
And then day three, like yousaid, is this culmination of oh,
like you, you get it.
It's just like you walk awayunderstanding a process of how
(48:30):
to get spark ideas on demand andhow to problem solve so quickly
.
Um, so I had three monthspushed back.
I had one in January, january,february and March.
That all got pushed into me.
(48:52):
So January, february and March,I can tell you I was literally
going through withdrawals.
I'm like, oh, I need to do thework.
So please don't anybody thinkthat I'm a unicorn.
I am not.
I will tell you I have done thework.
Scott Brandley (49:14):
That's it.
Tracy Jo Rollins (49:15):
I haven't done the work and it's not over.
It's a work in progress, but Iremember being such an angry
person.
Ask my kids and they're like oh, I had.
You know, 25 years ago weweren't talking about anxiety,
(49:38):
depression and hormones and allthat stuff.
I am grateful for what we arelearning in today.
I mean there's a lot of peoplegoing back and healing childhood
trauma.
Everyone's talking about breathwork.
It's amazing the shift that'shappening on our planet and I
(49:59):
love the fact that somebody saidthis to me the other day.
They said you know, there cannever be more dark than there is
light.
So, even though a lot of peoplefeel like there's a lot of dark
things happening on the planet,guess what?
There can never be more darkthan there is light.
And when you think aboutopposition in all things, there
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has to be as much opposition anddark for the light of Christ
that's coming.
Yeah, it's true about that,yeah.
So we're just preparing for thatright.
So embrace it, becauseopposition equals creation.
And if you would have known me20 years ago, I'm such a
(50:46):
different person, I'm such adifferent person.
I'm such a different person.
I'm grateful for that personthat I was and I'm grateful that
I always wanted to.
My whole life I kept saying God, change me, help me to change.
I want to be different.
(51:07):
I want to be calm in the storm.
Help me to be calm in the storm.
Seven kids, that's a storm.
You know there's alwayssomething going on, right, yes,
but how can I be calm in thestorm?
Do you know how good that feels?
And I'm not always calm in thestorm.
I love know how good that feels, and I'm not always calm in the
(51:28):
storm.
I love Sherry Dew.
Sherry Dew, I remember it wassomething that she said when she
was in the Relief Societypresidency over the church and
she got upset with hercounselors.
And she got upset with hercounselors and went home and
(51:52):
they're like Whoa, that's notlike Sherry.
So they went to her house andknocked on the door and she
apologized and she said oh,there's still rats in the attic.
And they're like what do youmean?
And she said well, you thinkthat you're that you don't have
any rats in the attic becauseyou know when you go up and you
open the attic door you don'tsee any because they ran.
But if you snuck up to theattic and just like peek open in
(52:16):
there and watch, you would findout there's still rats in the
attic, which what she meant was.
A lot of times we think we'vearrived and we find out that
someone can still push ourbuttons.
I have a 17 year old still, heknows buttons.
I didn't even know Amen, soright.
(52:40):
So I love that, because whatshe's saying is we're human, we
are human.
What she's saying is we'rehuman, we are human.
And I think the key for me is Iget knocked down and I get back
up again.
I get knocked down and I getback up again, and I'm always
going to get back up again.
Yeah, I, when I say thosethings, I I always go okay, here
(53:04):
it comes.
Because when we speak outthings like that, we get tested
to see, to know that we aretruly going to do that.
So be careful with your words.
I remember when I joined thechurch.
I'm reading the scriptures andI'm like oh, there's this thing
called the refiner's fire.
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I want that, I want to be gold.
I said Lord, take all the drossoff of me and take me through
the refiner's fire, wow.
Be, careful what you pray for.
Scott Brandley (53:41):
I'm not going to pray for that.
Alisha Coakley (53:43):
I'm not praying for that one.
I don't want that.
I don't want patience.
I don't want that.
I don't want patience.
I don't want humility.
Tracy Jo Rollins (53:49):
Right.
But the truth of the matter isis, honestly, I do want to be
the gold, I do want the drosstaken off of me.
I do want to stand tall in thejoy of being made whole and
clean, the joy of being madewhole and clean, and I just feel
(54:10):
like I told God I go.
If I ever tell you to stoprefining meat, don't listen to
me, don't listen, keep going,keep refining meat.
I'll be on here again sometime,I'm sure, with a new story.
Oh for sure.
Hey, I got another one, I'msure with the new story.
Alisha Coakley (54:29):
Oh for sure, hey got another one.
I'm like, okay, let's shoot.
That's so neat.
Scott Brandley (54:36):
I like what you said about putting in.
You have to put in the workbecause I even think as members
of the church it's so easy toget uh, you know, to lose sight
of the simple things.
And I, I mean I, I'm a victimof it.
I, you know it's hard to do thesimple things.
Sometimes you just get caughtup in life.
But you got to keep putting inthat work and when you don't,
(55:01):
you start to see that things areharder.
Life is harder.
Tracy Jo Rollins (55:05):
Yeah, you know things are harder, life is
harder, yeah, you know can Itell you something, Scott, that
has helped me so much.
It's taking, do you?
Scott Brandley (55:22):
ever get up and just you just get out of bed and
just start going.
Tracy Jo Rollins (55:24):
I don't, I cannot live my life like that
anymore, like I, literally, if Ido that and get up and start
going, I stop and I go no, no,no, no.
This day is not going to belike that, because I can't.
I can't do days like that.
When I get up in the morning,it's hey, heavenly Father, hi,
(55:49):
heavenly Mother I believe we areHeavenly Mothers.
I'm like Hi, heavenly Father,hi Heavenly Mother, I'm here,
what can I do for you today?
And we have a conversation andI might get out my book and
start writing it.
And then I sit and vision and Idon't do this perfectly all the
time, don't get me wrong, butthese are some of the things
(56:09):
that I do, and I do it in themorning because I believe we can
create our day every day, orit's going to create us, right.
So then, okay, what is myintention for this day, heavenly
Father?
It's like co-creating your daywith God.
What would you have me to do?
(56:32):
What can I do for you today?
And I get answers and I'm likeokay, so we start writing, and
some of them are about mybusiness.
Okay, um, go, look for your,for your next person that you
know that you're going to helpwith you, know this or that next
person that you know thatyou're going to help with you,
know this or that?
Okay, this is talk to thisperson today.
Um, I know that you've beenwanting to.
You know, do X, y, z, because Ibelieve that God respects my
(56:57):
free will and my agency and thedesires of my heart too.
Some people think, oh, it's allGod's will.
What if I'm not doing his willright?
What if I'm going the wrongdirection?
Guess what?
What I've realized is he wantsme to have hopes and dreams and
live them.
And if you don't believe that,there are so many prophets out
(57:21):
there who have said those things, go start looking for that that
God wants you to dream big andhe wants you to be fabulous and
he wants you remember maybe wecan just kind of end with this
Remember the story about the guyon the cruise and he had saved
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all of his money to go on thiscruise and finally he gets to go
on the cruise and he's soexcited and whenever people are,
like at lunchtime, atdinnertime, he goes back to his
cabin, opens his suitcase and hehas cans of tuna, beans,
crackers, peanut butter that hebrought with him and he walks
(58:03):
through the cruise looking atthe delicious foods and, oh man,
oh, I wish I could like go havefun with these people and these
activities.
The last day the porter comes upto him and says hey, mr Jones,
the captain would like you tosit at the table and dine with
him tonight.
He usually likes to try to geteverybody at his table at some
(58:23):
point and he said oh, I'm sosorry, I could only afford the
cruise.
I couldn't afford to pay forall the food.
And the porter looked at himfunny and he goes what do you
mean?
All the foods included?
And the poor man is like it'sthe last day of the cruise.
I want every juicy drop of lifethat I get to have.
(58:51):
So I'm going to, I'm going tojust soak it in.
And oh, we're on a ride book.
I won't want to ride horses, Iwant to plant a garden.
Oh, I want to ride a rollercoaster.
Oh, I want to go to the beach.
Let's do it.
I think God wants us to havejoy.
I's do it.
I think God wants us to havejoy.
I think so too.
Scott Brandley (59:12):
I think God wants us to be friends, because
those are things that I thinkwould be great to do.
Alisha Coakley (59:21):
I love that, oh gosh.
Well, miss Tracy Jo, as usual,you just left us smiling.
My cheeks are hurting a littlebit right here.
My eyes are super squinty.
I cried Check, check, check,good job.
But we really appreciate youcoming on and just sharing your
(59:43):
story.
We're so glad that you're okay.
We're so glad that you're stillcontinuing to live life to be
an example to others, to be alight to the world, and so
please just keep us updated onall the beautiful things that
you still are doing and let usknow for sure, when you are
getting to the tail end ofwrapping up your book and you're
ready to start pushing it forpublishing and stuff, we would
(01:00:04):
love to have you come on, sharea little bit more about it.
You know we can share links andstuff like that for you too.
Tracy Jo Rollins (01:00:09):
I just think that that would be super cool,
so thank you Awesome I willThank you so much for letting me
be on and share the story.
I feel so grateful to be hereand I am grateful for what you
guys are doing and sharing allof these amazing stories with
people.
Scott Brandley (01:00:29):
I love what you're doing.
Tracy Jo Rollins (01:00:33):
Any last thoughts before we wrap things
up Find joy in the journey,choose joy.
It's really important to knowthat you have the power to
choose how you feel about yourexperiences.
You get to choose if you wantto be angry about it or you get
(01:00:53):
to choose if you want to turn itover to God and let him have
all that.
You can sit and I believe thatwe need to feel our emotions,
feel our feelings, but you getto choose how long you stay
there.
Yeah, oh, I just like to, whenI'm in a really tough situation,
(01:01:18):
pause, take a deep breath andsay what would I learn instead?
How do I want to feel aboutthis?
Those are two really goodquestions.
Alisha Coakley (01:01:32):
That's super helpful.
Yeah, all right.
Well, thank you again, tracy,jo, we appreciate it, and thank
you to all of our listeners.
Guys, we just love being ableto do this podcast.
We love having stories likeTracy's that really do inspire,
and we are always looking forother guests who want to come on
the show, who want to sharetheir own stories, ways that
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their testimonies have grown andand perspectives that they've
gained throughout life that'sbrought them closer to Christ
and closer to their purpose, andso if that's you, or if you
know someone who has a storythat would really need to be
shared on this podcast, we wantto hear from you.
Please, please, please, be sureto reach out to us.
You can either email us atlatterdaylightsgmailcom or you
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can head to our website,latterdaylightscom, and you can
fill out the contact form at thebottom of the first page there.
So don't be shy.
Make sure that you guys reachout to us, just like Tracy did.
She said I think I did it thefirst time and then now you did
it the second time.
Scott Brandley (01:02:31):
So well, good luck with the next couple of
days of of your seminar.
Alisha Coakley (01:02:36):
That sounds amazing.
Scott Brandley (01:02:38):
And thanks for taking out some time to tell us
your story and share that withus.
That's very inspiring.
Tracy Jo Rollins (01:02:43):
Thanks for having me on, no problem.
Scott Brandley (01:02:46):
Well, thanks.
Thanks everyone having me on,no problem.
Thanks everyone for joining uson the show again and we will
talk to you next week withanother episode.
Until then, take care, bye-bye.
Alisha Coakley (01:02:55):
Bye guys.
Hey everyone, I'm Scott Brandley.
Alisha Coakley (00:02):
And I'm Alisha Coakley.
Every member of the church hasa story to share, one that can
instill faith, invite growth andinspire others.
Scott Brandley (00:10):
On today's episode, we're going to hear how
a horrific accident andmiraculous recovery taught one
woman to trust in the Lord withall of her heart.
Welcome to Latter-day Lights.
Hey everyone, welcome back toLatter-day Lights.
(00:33):
We're so glad you're here withus today.
And before we jump into ourepisode, we mentioned last week
that we were going to do alittle mini-series about the
launch of my new book, faith toStay.
It's not quite ready yet, so itmight be a few weeks out, so
stay tuned for that.
But I just wanted to let youknow about that change, but it's
(00:54):
coming.
In the meantime, we have somemore great episodes to be able
to share with you, and ourepisode today is Tracy Jo
Rollins.
Welcome back to the show, tracy.
Alisha Coakley (01:06):
Thank you, so good to be back.
I know I'm so excited to haveyou.
I'm literally so happy that youare here, because your story
today may not have even existed.
You may not be here on thisearth at this point with
everything that happened.
What?
Was it it about a year ago,maybe not that long, it was in
(01:28):
January.
Was it that?
Was it that short ago?
Oh, my gosh yeah.
Tracy Jo Rollins (01:33):
It was just 15 months ago, wow.
Alisha Coakley (01:37):
Okay, it was just insane to me.
Well, you know what.
I'm looking at you and you look.
Okay, I'm not going to spoil it.
Anyway, I'm so glad you're here.
I'm so glad that you're here totell your story, that
everything worked out the waythat it did, um, and just to
have you back on the show, causewe just loved you and my, my
cheeks were hurting last timeyou're here and I'm sure that
(01:58):
they're hurting again and mymakeup's going to be smeared
from crying.
But but, before we get intoyour story, tracy, do you want
to remind listeners just alittle bit about yourself?
You know where you're from,what you do, all those things,
yeah, sure.
Tracy Jo Rollins (02:12):
I have been between Arizona and Utah for the
last 40 years.
I am a mom of seven and agrandma of four and that's the
best thing about life is my kids, my grandkids.
I've been able to do somereally amazing things in my life
(02:34):
and one of those was being aprofessional jockey for about
seven years.
And I have taught school andI'm an artist, and not right now
.
I'm a certified mindset coachand a certified mental wellness
coach, and I love it.
I'm in the middle of doing athree-day bootcamp for Leslie
(02:56):
Householders, rare Faith, sotoday was day one and we'll
finish up in two days.
I love teaching genius bootcamps they're so amazing.
Alisha Coakley (03:08):
Oh my gosh.
The genius boot camp was thefirst one that I did with Leslie
Householder and I'm not goingto spoil anything but holy cow
Like that day three.
It changed my you know, whatI'm talking about.
Yeah, of course you do.
Tracy Jo Rollins (03:25):
It was like this is my 29th genius bootcamp.
Alisha Coakley (03:28):
What that was like everything came to this
beautiful little like fruitionat the very end, where it
clicked and I was like, oh mygosh, it was.
I can't even praise enough ofthe genius bootcamp Like it.
Scott Brandley (03:42):
Just it was just phenomenal, scott praise enough
of the genius bootcamp like itjust.
Alisha Coakley (03:47):
It was just phenomenal, scott, you'd love it
, just do it.
Tracy Jo Rollins (03:49):
Probably I'm always making scott do stuff
sometimes it's hey I read.
Scott Brandley (03:53):
Since our last podcast, I did read one of her
books, the jackrabbit okay yougotta go read hidden treasures.
Tracy Jo Rollins (04:00):
That's the one that I like, love the most yes,
hidden treasures and dredgersis about the seven universal
laws.
The Jackrabbit factor is abouta family and how they learn
about the laws.
And then she portal to geniusis the sequel, and it really
does talk about your portal toyour genius.
It's really amazing.
Alisha Coakley (04:18):
Yeah, yeah.
I'm sure, and miss Tracy, sidenote, did you just participate
in a pageant of some kind?
I thought I saw something likethat on Facebook.
What was that?
Tracy Jo Rollins (04:31):
It's so funny.
It's like life can change on adime, like one minute you're in
the hospital and the next minuteyou are winning a title.
So yeah, I it was so it.
It was um Ms Utah is the titlethat I have.
Alisha Coakley (04:54):
Okay, wow.
Tracy Jo Rollins (04:57):
I had no idea that was in my uh coming up in
my life and I actually had theformer miss uh Mrs USA speaking
at my genius bootcamp and shesaid you should come do this
with me and I had no idea that.
But I really feel impressed thattheir, their platform is pretty
(05:21):
amazing.
It's you Now I am aspokesperson and I will be a
national spokesperson, uh forviolence against women and
children, just advocating forhelping with those kinds of
things, and I'm excited to seewhat I get to do, um, for this
(05:43):
next year.
And also I'm really excitedbecause I feel like I'm going to
have a platform to promote mybook.
Alisha Coakley (05:52):
Oh, I love that.
That's amazing.
Well, congratulations on all ofit.
All right, well, I I think weshould get right into it.
Tracy, just a few months ago.
I don't know if that's wherewe're starting or if you want to
start back a little further,but go ahead and take it away.
Tracy Jo Rollins (06:14):
Okay, I am really excited to share this
with you.
The things that I've learned inthis past five years have kind
of culminated up to whathappened January 14th, and my
life will never be the sameagain.
So I I have been writing a bookcalled on a dime.
(06:37):
I think it's important for youto know that in this book it's
about seven people whose liveschange on a dime.
They're all true stories ofdifferent people, and one of
them that I'm working on rightnow.
His name is Jeff Olson, andJeff Olson, he had a near-death
experience after a horrificaccident that he had back in
(06:59):
1997, where he lost his wife andhis baby 97, where he lost his
wife and his, his baby, and Iremember, like just in, in his
experience, he was able to go tothe other side and he has an
experience with the divine, withGod, and he is told that
everything's by divine designand that there are no mistakes.
(07:20):
And we're here to learn.
We're here to learn to loveeach other and ourselves.
So, with that little preface ofyou know the things that I've
been reading and studying andlearning about, let's go to
January 14th, 2025.
I am heading to Arizona becauseI want to help my son with his
(07:46):
rugby team and I want to do afundraiser where I was going to
go pick citrus in Arizona.
They just moved from Arizonaand have lots of friends with
citrus trees, and then I wasgoing to sell the citrus in Utah
and by the time I left for mytrip I had 40 orders, so I was
(08:06):
pretty excited.
Then I was going to head on toDallas to see my other two kids
and my grandkids and then headback home.
I was very excited about thetrip.
I'd been praying about it.
If I should fly or drive, Ifelt like I should drive to
Arizona and do the citrus thingand head to Dallas and then head
home, so I felt really goodabout that.
(08:27):
Now, on the day that I was toleave, I had packed up a lot of
Christmas presents for my Dallaskids, cause I knew I was going
to head that direction.
In January I have a conventionfor my business out there, so I
knew I was going to head there.
So I had all their presentspacked up in the car and I also
(08:49):
had the car full of apple boxesso I could put the oranges and
grapefruits and lemons in.
So here I am, I'm just loadeddown and I remember going to get
in the car and I looked up andI said, god, am I forgetting
anything?
And I had the feeling to goback in my house and so I did.
(09:13):
I looked around and I thoughtthere's nothing here, what you
know, why am I back here in myhouse?
And then I had the feeling youforgot to pray and I said, oh
shoot, I didn't.
So I went to kneel down to saya prayer and I heard this voice
say ask for traveling angels.
(09:34):
And I said that's prettyamazing, traveling angels, I
like that.
So I said, well, god, thank youfor the traveling angels, like,
bring them on.
And I, I was really, god, thankyou for the traveling angels,
Like, bring them on.
I was really excited that I gotto have traveling angels with
me and I really didn't thinkanything else about it.
I remember I got to page,arizona, and after page there's
(09:59):
a long stretch of highway thatgoes through the reservation and
I was thinking to myself oh, Ihave enough gas to make it to my
favorite gas station, speedy,on the reservation, because it's
a dollar cheaper.
So I thought I'll make it Landthe spelling, go back to Page
and get gas.
I didn't want to get strandedout.
(10:21):
It's so dark on the strip ofland in the night.
So I thought, well, okay, Iwent back, I gassed up.
There were a couple of things Idid that I don't normally do.
I wear my purse cross body andI got out and I filled up, and
then I get back in the car andnormally take off my purse and
put it in passenger seat.
(10:42):
I left it on, so I had my purseon.
And then the other thing that Idon't normally do is I kicked
off my shoes.
They were hot and they werehurting my feet and I just
kicked my shoes off and pushedthem to the side.
So now it's just my littlestocking feet.
I drive in my car and I'm on myway and I'm just minding my own
(11:05):
business and I'm about an hourout of page heading towards
Cameron, if you want.
Any of you know where that is.
And I I just remember like Iwas listening to a book on
audible and I, all of a sudden,I just noticed in front of me
there were headlights and Ithought that's really strange
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and that's all I could reallythink.
And then I was hit and I wasspinning and I thought, wait a
minute.
I, this is not the plan.
So I was having thisconversation with God and I said
, excuse me, I think you made amistake because this is not the
plan.
I remember I'm going to Arizonato pick citrus to do the help
(11:52):
my son, you know, with rugby andnow I'm not going to get my car
fixed.
And then Jeff Olson's voice,because I've listened to over 50
hours of different interviewswith Jeff and interviewed him
myself, so I heard I hear Jeff'svoice saying there are no
mistakes.
(12:12):
And I thought, oh my gosh, ifthere are no mistakes and
everything's by divine design,then this is the plan.
I was meant to get hit and I'mspinning in the desert.
And so at that point I I justlet it go and I said, okay, god,
(12:32):
just hold me, just hold me.
And I completely had forgottenabout traveling angels.
But I can tell you, I literallywas.
Everything was spinning aroundand I felt like I was.
I was bouncing up and down likeboom, boom, boom, but my head
did not go back and forth likethis.
(12:54):
I didn't feel like my body wasmoving.
I felt completely calm andstill watching things spinning
around me.
And then I stopped and I I tooka deep breath and I thought, oh
my gosh, I think I'm okay.
And I I started to move myfingers and my toes and I moved
(13:20):
my head, my shoulders and myback and I said, okay, I'm not
paralyzed.
And, gosh, I was just thinkingabout the person that you know,
who I've been reading about, andall the horrific accident that
he had.
And I thought I'm okay, I don'tthink I have any internal
injuries.
And I looked in the rear viewmirror to see if I was bleeding
(13:44):
and I realized there wasn't arear view mirror.
And I started looking around mycar and I was in shock because
the front end it was just amangled bunch of metal pushed up
to me and I was trying to makesense of where's the door, where
(14:09):
where's the dashboard.
And then I looked down and thesteering wheel was literally in
my pelvis, on my purse, and Ithought, oh my gosh, I'm so glad
that purse was there.
And I thought, oh my gosh, I'mso glad that purse was there.
(14:31):
And I don't know exactly why, Ikicked my shoes off, but I
really felt like there was apurpose for that.
So we'll get to that later, butat this point I'm sitting there
and I can't move becauseeverything is literally pushed
up to my legs and to my chestand I'm thinking okay, I'm okay,
(14:53):
but and then, all of a sudden,I hear voices and I thought,
well, that's fast.
And I?
I look in front of me, thewindshield's just smashed, but
it's not.
It's still intact.
Except right in front of myface there's a piece pulled up
about, this big, and then I seea face looking in that little
(15:15):
piece of the window and it was aman and he looked in and he
said are you okay?
And I said I think so.
Now, I wasn't't talking likethat.
This is how I was talking, Ithink so.
Everything was in slow motionand I could barely talk.
(15:37):
And he looked at me and he saidyou were just hit by a drunk
driver.
And I said no, because peopledon't live through that.
And he said I know.
And he said what can I do foryou right now?
And I said and I don't knowthis man from any, I mean, I
(15:59):
don't know anything about him.
I just said will you pray forme?
Thing about him.
I just said will you pray forme?
And he said I would love topray for you.
I'm a pastor and I said what Ifthere's anybody that I would
have standing at my window?
Scott Brandley (16:19):
it would be an off-duty.
Tracy Jo Rollins (16:19):
EMT or a pastor, and he reached his hand
through the shards of glass andgrabbed my hand and he held it.
It was my right hand, because Irealized I couldn't really move
my left hand, in fact my wholeleft side.
I knew something was wrong withmy left side, so he held my
hand and he prayed and he saidI'm not letting go of you until
(16:41):
you're safe in an ambulance.
Or he said there's actually ahelicopter coming from Flagstaff
and an ambulance coming fromTuba city.
Whichever one gets here firstis going to take you.
If it's the ambulance, they'llstabilize you and get you, like
lighted, to Flagstaff.
And I said okay.
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And then this other person, whoI later found out was his 15
year old son, comes to thewindow and he's holding
something and he said is thisyours?
And I didn't realize what amiracle this was until a couple
of weeks later.
I was just writing down thewhole experience in my journal.
And he said is this yours?
(17:23):
And it was my phone.
And I said yes, that's my phone.
Where was it?
And he said just out on thedesert.
And I said oh my gosh, thankyou for finding it.
And he said and is this yourcredit card?
And I said, wow, yes.
So he handed me my phone and Icalled my mom and later I
(17:46):
thought about it and I thoughtyou know what, my phone could
have flown to the back of thecar and I wouldn't have been
able to call my mom, who calledmy kids that live in Arizona.
I have three children that livein Arizona and they immediately
started to drive out to Tubicity hospital.
(18:09):
We found out that's that'swhere I was going to go was the
ambulance was almost there, sothey had already started their
drive out there.
And my mom I was able to keeptalking to her and she just kept
saying don't leave me, don'tleave me, because all I could
say, keep saying to her is mom,I'm broken, I'm broken.
(18:31):
And then I had the preachersaid can I talk to your mom?
And he explained what hadhappened.
And so the next thing thathappened was, um, the ambulance
came and they wanted to comeinto the passenger side and I,
(18:53):
like I said, I knew there wassomething wrong with my left
side and I don't remembergetting hit by airbags.
But when I started to lookaround I saw all these strange
looking pieces of material allover my car and I later realized
that those were broken airbagsand I just remember the
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headlights and boom and thenspinning.
So I don't remember at allbeing hit by airbags.
But later in the hospital Ilooked at my face and I look
like I got punched in the faceby an airbag and I was.
It was burned and and all that.
So the, the ambulance wastrying to get me out.
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The ambulance people wanted toget me out the passenger side
and I looked at the preacher andI said please don't let them
get me out the driver's side,because I can just slide out
like this.
I don't think that they'regoing to rip me apart by trying
to pull me across the.
So he said well, the good newsis and I'm also a mechanic and I
(20:01):
know that this vehicle has someclips on the door and I can
take the door off.
They didn't have to jaws oflife get me out or anything,
cause he found the clips on thedoor.
I got the door off, wow.
And then they pulled me out.
I had to lay backwards and putmy feet out like this.
And then they said, okay, I hadsweatpants on.
(20:21):
And they said, okay, we'regoing to grab your sweatpants
and pull, pull you out.
And I said, you guys are goingto give me the biggest wedgie.
And they all started laughingbecause they're like, oh my gosh
, here's this woman.
So I was making jokes and itwas that was good Cause they
were.
They were like, okay, I thinkshe's okay, but I was in shock
(20:46):
and I had asked them to take apicture of the car, which I
think I can give you guys apicture and you can put it on
here somewhere, right, yes, yeah.
So I was able to get out andthey, they took me to Tuba city
hospital where I I found outthat I didn't have to be life
(21:06):
flighted to Flagstaff because Ihad zero life threatening
injuries and if you saw my caryou would hardly believe it,
because the whole front end isgone and it's just a little
bubble around the seat that Iwas sitting in.
Alisha Coakley (21:20):
Yeah, I remember the pictures.
I was like what?
Scott Brandley (21:24):
the hell.
Tracy Jo Rollins (21:25):
Yeah.
When my insurance guy saw it,he said wait a minute, this is
the vehicle you were in.
And I said yes, and he said Ido this all day, every day.
I do not talk to people whowere in the car like this.
He said I I can't believe I'mtalking to you, but you know,
(21:45):
it's like when I was, when, whenI was spinning in the car, it
was almost like ingratitude.
Uh, because I had that visionof this is meant to be.
(22:07):
This is, this is the plan forme.
This is what I came toexperience.
But the other thing that youneed to know is, later on, my
former state president was ableto give me a blessing shortly
after the accident and in thatblessing he said this was his
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very first words were Tracy,tracy, joe.
This was not a coincidence,this was by divine design.
And the end of that blessing hesaid you are an angel on earth
who saved a family.
And he didn't even know thatthere was a family behind me
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that had pulled over and theythey came up to preach her and
they passed her and they said isshe okay?
And he said I think she's goingto be okay.
She's going to be okay.
And the man said I just want totell you see the car I'm
driving, my wife and my threekids are.
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It was a small car and he saidwe wouldn't have made it.
We wouldn't have made it.
I don't wish anything on herbut I'm glad she was in front of
us.
And you know there's a couple ofthings that happened prior to
this accident.
This pastor had been followingthe drunk driver for 10 miles
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and they were trying to get himoff the road and at one point he
slammed into a parked dieseland they thought, okay, he's
going to stop.
And they were getting out oftheir car to go see if he was
okay and the bumper had fallenoff of his vehicle.
He backed it up and went andthat's when he went down um, the
(24:02):
roundabout, the wrong way andentered the freeway, this piece
of highway, the wrong way andthey said, oh no, he's going to
hit someone.
It's not if it's when and thepastor Brandon is his name.
Brandon looked at his son andhe said let's pray right now for
(24:25):
whoever he hits.
And so Brandon told me.
The next day at the hospital,brandon and his son came and
they told me the backstory.
They said, tracy, jo, we prayedfor you before it even happened
and we asked God, whoever hehits, that not only will they
live, but they'll be fine.
Alisha Coakley (24:46):
Wow so, oh my gosh.
Tracy Jo Rollins (24:55):
I feel so grateful.
I had 10 broken bones and itjust took a while, you know, to
for all of that heal and um, acouple of other minor things.
But when he told me that storyI just felt like God is in the
(25:17):
details, he knows what's goingon, he knows what's going to
happen.
What's going on, he knowswhat's going to happen and it
was perfectly timed for me to goback to page and get that gas
so that I would be right thereto take that hit.
And you know, I I don't knowexactly what happened to the
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other driver is 25 years old andhe rolled and rolled and he was
ended up upside down and I saidpastor, let's pray for him and
pastor's like um.
He didn't want to because hewas very upset at this person.
So my mom later told me shesaid you were on, I could hear
(26:02):
you on the phone and she saidyou prayed for this, you prayed
for him and still pray for him.
They told me that when he gotgot out of the hospital he would
immediately be arrested,because the FBI takes over,
because when it's on thereservation it's not.
You can't have local police,it's now federal.
(26:24):
So the FBI took over that wholesituation and um, um, what I
know is that God was literallythere holding me.
I have no doubt in my mind thathe knew what was going to
(26:50):
happen and I was there for areason and my life was spared,
you know.
But I do want to say this I hadone woman say to me oh my gosh,
god sure does love you.
He saved your life.
And I said well, let me ask youthis question If I would have
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died, would God have not lovedme, or would he have loved me
any less?
And she said oh my gosh, I'm sosorry, like you're right.
She said oh my gosh, I'm sosorry, like you're right,
because I think about sometimeswe're.
I remember being in church andand this woman is talking about
(27:34):
how God loved her baby so muchthat she, he healed her child,
and that's the love of God.
And I'm sitting next to a womanwho lost her child.
Yeah, so that's just.
I just wanted to bring that upbecause if I was a mangled mess,
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he would have loved me the same.
If I would have died, he would.
It's not because he didn't loveme.
Scott Brandley (28:03):
He loves me, just the same.
Tracy Jo Rollins (28:05):
It's just that this was my mission is to now
share the miracle.
And really I asked God mypurpose and he said to help
people remember that miraclesstill exist.
And you're the example, existand like and you're the example
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you know, and I love that thatI'm writing this book about
these seven people who they'retrue stories to real life people
who've had they're alldifferent scenarios.
One was uh one was parents of asuicide.
Um.
One was a man who was marriedfor 30 years and his wife walked
in and said guess what I'mleaving you?
And he lost his wife and hishouse and his job, everything
(28:50):
within two weeks.
And how these people?
In fact, I don't know if youknow Meg Johnson, but she just
gave me permission to be one ofthe people in my book.
Alisha Coakley (29:02):
Um, do you know who Meg Johnson is?
I do, yep, yeah.
Tracy Jo Rollins (29:06):
So if there's people out there listening that
don't know, meg Johnson, lookher up.
But she was hiking Zions andwas jumping from rock to rock to
rock and when she went to jumpfor the last one, it was
actually a mirage.
It was across a ravine and shehad just jumped off a cliff and
she became a paraplegic.
Scott Brandley (29:27):
So oh, I know her yeah.
Alisha Coakley (29:29):
She works with our turtle house and yeah, yeah,
yeah.
Scott Brandley (29:33):
I've been to a conference she would that she
spoke at.
Yeah, I didn't, I didn't getthe name, but I know the story
so yeah, that's awesome.
Tracy Jo Rollins (29:43):
Yeah, one thing that I took from I'm just
looking at our time here how arewe doing?
You're good, okay.
One thing that I remember themost from Meg Johnson's
experience was that she wassaying why me, why, why, why did
this happen?
She was laying in bed andwaiting for somebody to come
(30:06):
turn her and just tears, youknow, coming down her face, and
she said that she had, she had,a vision of herself sitting at
this beautiful desk I'm thinkingit was probably cherry wood, it
was just this beautiful,gorgeous desk and she's in white
and there are people standingaround in white and there is a
(30:27):
pen and paper and she grabs thatpen and starts signing papers
and she thought can I sign upfor this?
I think she did, wow.
(30:50):
So that's one thing that I'vereally been pondering about is
are the things that weexperience here on this planet
things that we agreed to?
I think so.
I think we agreed to have theseexperiences so that we could
learn and grow from them andthen we can help other people.
So is there any questions thatyou have for me?
Alisha Coakley (31:12):
Oh, my goodness.
Well, let me go back to to yourrecovery.
So you had 10 broken bones.
How long like was that?
The only thing?
That?
Just 10 broken bones, and, ofcourse, like the bruises on your
face and swelling and stuff buthow long did it?
Take you to get throughrecovery, like to get kind of
back to feeling normal, or areyou still healing?
Tracy Jo Rollins (31:37):
yeah, I, I was told to give it a year.
Really, I had a broken clavicle, I had a plate and screws here
and a broken sternum.
I had broken hand and fingersand a broken tibia and five
broken ribs.
So I was, I was in the hospitalfor five days and then I stayed
(32:06):
in Arizona at a friend's house,my very good friend's house, my
three kids that lived there.
So my friend, her son, justmarried my daughter.
So that happened while I wasthere in Arizona.
We had a wedding and then wehad my mother-in-law's funeral
while I was there.
So, um it I w.
(32:30):
I stayed there for a month andthen I went for my follow-up and
while I was recovering.
You know, I really believe thatour thoughts, that we can heal.
For me, I thought I can healfaster if I continually tell
myself I'm healed.
So I did use a lot of my rarefake tools in my healing to stay
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positive, to stay in gratitude,and that was a big one for me.
It was just journalingeverything and staying in
gratitude.
My son he's 23 years old I wasso concerned about all the
people who had ordered fruitfrom me.
So many had already Venmo'd meand I told my son I go, I have
(33:21):
to get this fruit, and they'relike mom you can't get the fruit
.
My son went and picked the fruitwith his friends and fulfilled
the orders.
Scott Brandley (33:33):
Isn't that so?
Tracy Jo Rollins (33:35):
sweet so.
So when I went back for thefollow-up it was it was my six
week follow-up the two surgeonsthat had worked on me said they
had pins in my hand.
They took the pins out and theysaid you are good to go, like
you're healed, your bones areall good.
(33:56):
They said we can't really lookat your ribs, but everything
else is good.
Now this is as far as I canbend these fingers, so there's
still work.
You know just these littlethings like that, but I'm gosh.
I didn't have to learn how towalk, talk, breathe, eat again.
Alisha Coakley (34:16):
Wow.
Tracy Jo Rollins (34:16):
So I'm very grateful for those 10 broken
bones.
Yeah, um, in one month they inthe six weeks.
No, it wasn't one, but sixweeks.
Uh, I left Arizona and wentback home to Utah and my mom
came, my sister came, but theyreally didn't have to stay very
(34:37):
long.
I just tried to keep going onwith my life.
But I realized there are things,there's some aftermath that I'm
working with the nerve damageand things like that that I had
to just have my foot x-rayed twodays ago because I kept telling
them my feet were broken at thehospital and they kept telling
(34:59):
me my feet were not broken.
My feet were black and blue andjust swollen, so huge.
I called about three weeks agoto the hospital and I said I
would like to have theradiologist look at my x-rays of
my feet again because my leftfoot still I can sometimes I can
barely walk on it.
(35:19):
And then she came back and shegoes I am really sorry, mrs
Rollins, they did not x-ray yourfeet Really.
Really, they did not x-ray myfeet.
So I did just have my left footx-rayed just a couple of days
ago and they're sending it outto the radiologist and there is
(35:42):
some kind of weird looking thingon it on the left foot.
So there might be somethingelse, but you know those are
just minor things compared toall of the huge, amazing
miracles you know that happenedwith this whole accident.
Alisha Coakley (36:02):
Oh my gosh Wow.
Scott Brandley (36:05):
I love.
I love how positive you are,even like in the last podcast we
did with you, like you've justyou're.
I do think that the lessonsyou've learned from Leslie
Householder have had a hugeimpact on you.
I mean so much so that you guysconvinced me to read that book,
which was a really good book.
But yeah, I love the idea ofjust living your life in
(36:31):
gratitude.
That's very empowering.
It changes the way you look atthe world.
Alisha Coakley (36:39):
Yeah Well, so let me ask you, tracy, because
you mentioned that you wanted totake control of your healing.
You knew that you could, youcould heal faster through the
things that you know that we outthere who maybe have no idea,
how do you, how do you, how doyou, I guess, manifest your own
(37:09):
healing in gratitude, what, whatwould you say?
What would you do you know like, was it just journaling, was it
like in prayer, you know, kindof give us an example of some of
the things that you would writeor say to like that's a really
good question and it for me it's.
Tracy Jo Rollins (37:25):
It's there's a little, a lot of different
modalities that you can use toheal.
One of one thing that happenedwas a dear friend.
Her father-in-law does Reikiand long distance and he said do
you mind if I work on you?
And I said I will take anything.
So he did six sessions on meand then he messaged my friend
(37:52):
and he said she's doing, and theday he messaged is true, I was
getting up and walking andmaking my own breakfast that day
, my own breakfast that day.
So here's some of the thingsthat I that I do and I can.
I do them all the time, becauseto me, every day there are
things to heal from.
Every day you can get shot downand in fact my 17 year old he
(38:16):
goes mom, you just get shot downand then you say a prayer and
you get back up again and thenyou get shot down, and then you
say a prayer and you get back upagain, and then you get shot
down and then you say a prayerand you get back up again.
Scott Brandley (38:27):
He's like mom, something's got to change.
Tracy Jo Rollins (38:30):
I said to him.
I said I think the point isthat I get back up again and not
everybody does.
Yeah, so what what I do is I Ido meditation, where I might
(39:01):
turn on something on YouTube.
I like Joe Dispenza, and Imight listen to a short
meditation and follow what theydo.
I do breath work.
I love breath work.
Breath work, I feel, is theantidote to anxiety.
I like Wim Hof, I like somaticbreath work, kriya yoga, all of
those things that I could dowhen I couldn't really get up
and move and do my yoga, I couldwell let me.
(39:25):
Let me say I learned a lot froma book called man's search for
meaning by Viktor Frankl.
Yeah, I don't read that book.
I highly suggest it becauseViktor Frankl was a survivor of
Auschwitz concentration camps.
Alisha Coakley (39:42):
I just have to say have you read it Scott.
Scott Brandley (39:47):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Alisha Coakley (39:48):
Yeah, so any listener go right now and
download it on Apple.
Tracy Jo Rollins (39:54):
It was oh my gosh you need to like.
Alisha Coakley (40:00):
I should never, ever complain about anything
that I ever go through, everagain.
Yeah, that was a great book.
Tracy Jo Rollins (40:08):
You know, it's true, you know I really so.
So breath, work, um, meditation, and I also envision light
coming in and healing everysingle like.
There were nights when I didn'tlike the pain medication, so I
(40:29):
got off of that as quick aspossible, and so sometimes at
night I would just be in a lotof pain and I would imagine
close my eyes and just imaginethis beautiful white light just
coming through the top of myhead and feeling and going into
every area of my body andsurrounding it and just healing
(40:50):
light and I was just like thankyou, god, for the healing light,
thank you for for everything.
I am whole and I am.
There were just some, somephrases that I'm not going to
say here because they're veryprivate, but there were some
phrases that were coming into mymind of things I needed to say
(41:11):
about my healing.
But I kept saying I am whole, Iam clean, I am forgiven, and
that was interesting and I amhealed.
And that was interesting and Iam healed and I I envision
myself when I went for my sixweek checkup, I just envisioned
that my doctors were going tolook at me and say you can go
(41:33):
like you're good, you can walkon that leg again.
And that's exactly what theysaid to me.
They're like you can walk onthat leg, go ahead, start, you
can go back to the gym.
Yeah, now, granted, it didn'thappen like that because I was
like, okay, and then I found out, oh, I take things a little bit
slower, all right, but I alsomy daughter asked me to make her
(42:00):
wedding cake and that was inFebruary.
So this happened in January14th and her wedding was
February 14th.
So one month later I knew I wasmaking that wedding cake and I
still think about it.
That's only four weeks.
But I was able to get up andstand on one leg and I had a
(42:24):
couple of friends that helped meand we got all of the layers.
I made a naked cake, which is alot easier than most cakes.
But I got all the layers made,froze them.
The next day my daughter that'sa chef she flew in and I made
all the frosting, thebuttercream and the raspberry
filling.
We had all that made and shecame and helped me decorate the
(42:47):
whole thing.
But that was if you havesomething to live for.
If you have, and that's whatreally what man's search for,
meaning he talks about that alot is having a purpose.
If you don't have a purpose,it's easy to give up.
So, and that's what what I'vebeen teaching for the last five
(43:09):
years in the genius bootcamp is.
Here's my mantra is don't diewith your music and you don't
die with your music and you findyou might be.
You might be a person that's aviolinist and you're over there
playing the drums and you hateit.
So find what your passion is,find what you love and do that.
(43:33):
You know so many people, people.
There's a thing about artistslike starving artists like you
can't make any money.
You know doing art.
I disagree.
I feel like when you find yourpassion you're going to, you can
create wealth doing what youlove you should.
(43:53):
I think that's the purpose isto come here, use our gifts and
talents to make the world abetter place, to make the world
a better place, fill a need thatis needed in the world, and
everybody has, and I think ofthat song Glorious.
Everyone plays a piece.
It's like a symphony.
(44:13):
Everybody plays a piece, right,and when they do, it's like
this beautiful harmony, thisbeautiful symphony, and we're
all doing our part and makingbeautiful music.
So that's what I love to teachpeople is what their next right
step is how to find it, how toget unstuck and find the music
(44:36):
that you were born with and thatyou are meant to play.
I love that I love that.
Scott Brandley (44:42):
so are you to add your story to your book On a
dime?
Okay?
Tracy Jo Rollins (44:52):
Everyone that knows about the book is like
you're number eight.
You have eight people now.
So here's how I see it going isme writing my story,
introducing myself and writingmy story, and maybe I'm writing
about each person and filling insome of those gaps, leading to
(45:16):
like I might give a littleprelude or, at the end, like I
don't know is that the epilogue?
Scott Brandley (45:22):
or at the?
Tracy Jo Rollins (45:22):
end like I don't know.
Is that the epilogue?
Yeah, so just giving a littlesomething at the end about how
these, how this has affected mylife, why I even started writing
the book and interesting howthis happened right in the
middle of me writing the book soI could have an on the dime
(45:47):
experience.
Alisha Coakley (45:50):
Isn't it funny?
I think we were talking aboutum Scott's book last week and
just how you know he's, he'swritten other books and he's
written them in relatively shortperiods of time, but this, this
book that he has coming outsoon faith to stay is a nine
year process coming out soon.
Faith to Stay is a nine-yearprocess.
Nine years, that's such a longtime.
I'm on six years for my bookright now and I feel the same
(46:13):
way that you just mentionedwhere it's like you know, it's
almost like Heavenly Father'slike okay, well, we're just
going to put that book down fora minute because you've got some
more stuff to learn before youcan continue on to the next
chapters.
You know, it's almost like he'sgiving us little pieces at a
time and he's kind of like let'ssee what you do with this.
Are you actually going to keepwriting when I give you these
lessons?
Are you going to recognize them?
Are you going to tailor them toyour life?
(46:34):
What are you going to learnabout?
What are you going to do, andare you willing to adjust and
trust me?
You know, I think for me,that's one of the things that I
have really had to to learn,especially the last six years.
Um is to adjust and trust.
You know, like, just constantlyin this cycle of adjusting,
trusting, adjusting, trusting,just keep going on and on with
it and I love that so much.
Tracy Jo Rollins (46:57):
adjust and trust.
Alisha Coakley (46:59):
Yeah, I'm like I sometimes I just can't, I'm
like I don't, I put the grapes.
No, I worked so hard and I'mdoing this, and it was like I'm
not trusting, I'm not adjusting,so I'm not moving.
So we just sit and, heavenlyFather, just like, okay, well,
when you're ready we'll moveforward.
You know, and I, I love that,like your perspective has just
(47:20):
been so positive the whole time,even in the middle of spinning
around.
You know, getting hit in thedark of the night, you're just
like okay, just hold me, justhold me.
God, like how I won't even.
You're like a unicorn.
I don't know how anyone could dothat I spiral in the darkness
(47:41):
of life all the time and it'snever like, okay, you got me.
It's like you sure you got me.
I'm just like freaking out overhere.
So I love, I love that you'rejust so positive about it and
that you just really I don'tknow, I guess is it one of those
things where it's like the moreyou do it, the easier it is to
(48:02):
do you know, I can tell you thatI was I, I was I.
Tracy Jo Rollins (48:06):
I teach about one genius boot camp a month.
Okay, and the genius boot campis a three-day, like you start
with a foundation and it buildson itself, teaching these
principles.
And then day three, like yousaid, is this culmination of oh,
like you, you get it.
It's just like you walk awayunderstanding a process of how
(48:30):
to get spark ideas on demand andhow to problem solve so quickly
.
Um, so I had three monthspushed back.
I had one in January, january,february and March.
That all got pushed into me.
(48:52):
So January, february and March,I can tell you I was literally
going through withdrawals.
I'm like, oh, I need to do thework.
So please don't anybody thinkthat I'm a unicorn.
I am not.
I will tell you I have done thework.
Scott Brandley (49:14):
That's it.
Tracy Jo Rollins (49:15):
I haven't done the work and it's not over.
It's a work in progress, but Iremember being such an angry
person.
Ask my kids and they're like oh, I had.
You know, 25 years ago weweren't talking about anxiety,
(49:38):
depression and hormones and allthat stuff.
I am grateful for what we arelearning in today.
I mean there's a lot of peoplegoing back and healing childhood
trauma.
Everyone's talking about breathwork.
It's amazing the shift that'shappening on our planet and I
(49:59):
love the fact that somebody saidthis to me the other day.
They said you know, there cannever be more dark than there is
light.
So, even though a lot of peoplefeel like there's a lot of dark
things happening on the planet,guess what?
There can never be more darkthan there is light.
And when you think aboutopposition in all things, there
(50:20):
has to be as much opposition anddark for the light of Christ
that's coming.
Yeah, it's true about that,yeah.
So we're just preparing for thatright.
So embrace it, becauseopposition equals creation.
And if you would have known me20 years ago, I'm such a
(50:46):
different person, I'm such adifferent person.
I'm such a different person.
I'm grateful for that personthat I was and I'm grateful that
I always wanted to.
My whole life I kept saying God, change me, help me to change.
I want to be different.
(51:07):
I want to be calm in the storm.
Help me to be calm in the storm.
Seven kids, that's a storm.
You know there's alwayssomething going on, right, yes,
but how can I be calm in thestorm?
Do you know how good that feels?
And I'm not always calm in thestorm.
I love know how good that feels, and I'm not always calm in the
(51:28):
storm.
I love Sherry Dew.
Sherry Dew, I remember it wassomething that she said when she
was in the Relief Societypresidency over the church and
she got upset with hercounselors.
And she got upset with hercounselors and went home and
(51:52):
they're like Whoa, that's notlike Sherry.
So they went to her house andknocked on the door and she
apologized and she said oh,there's still rats in the attic.
And they're like what do youmean?
And she said well, you thinkthat you're that you don't have
any rats in the attic becauseyou know when you go up and you
open the attic door you don'tsee any because they ran.
But if you snuck up to theattic and just like peek open in
(52:16):
there and watch, you would findout there's still rats in the
attic, which what she meant was.
A lot of times we think we'vearrived and we find out that
someone can still push ourbuttons.
I have a 17 year old still, heknows buttons.
I didn't even know Amen, soright.
(52:40):
So I love that, because whatshe's saying is we're human, we
are human.
What she's saying is we'rehuman, we are human.
And I think the key for me is Iget knocked down and I get back
up again.
I get knocked down and I getback up again, and I'm always
going to get back up again.
Yeah, I, when I say thosethings, I I always go okay, here
(53:04):
it comes.
Because when we speak outthings like that, we get tested
to see, to know that we aretruly going to do that.
So be careful with your words.
I remember when I joined thechurch.
I'm reading the scriptures andI'm like oh, there's this thing
called the refiner's fire.
(53:25):
I want that, I want to be gold.
I said Lord, take all the drossoff of me and take me through
the refiner's fire, wow.
Be, careful what you pray for.
Scott Brandley (53:41):
I'm not going to pray for that.
Alisha Coakley (53:43):
I'm not praying for that one.
I don't want that.
I don't want patience.
I don't want that.
I don't want patience.
I don't want humility.
Tracy Jo Rollins (53:49):
Right.
But the truth of the matter isis, honestly, I do want to be
the gold, I do want the drosstaken off of me.
I do want to stand tall in thejoy of being made whole and
clean, the joy of being madewhole and clean, and I just feel
(54:10):
like I told God I go.
If I ever tell you to stoprefining meat, don't listen to
me, don't listen, keep going,keep refining meat.
I'll be on here again sometime,I'm sure, with a new story.
Oh for sure.
Hey, I got another one, I'msure with the new story.
Alisha Coakley (54:29):
Oh for sure, hey got another one.
I'm like, okay, let's shoot.
That's so neat.
Scott Brandley (54:36):
I like what you said about putting in.
You have to put in the workbecause I even think as members
of the church it's so easy toget uh, you know, to lose sight
of the simple things.
And I, I mean I, I'm a victimof it.
I, you know it's hard to do thesimple things.
Sometimes you just get caughtup in life.
But you got to keep putting inthat work and when you don't,
(55:01):
you start to see that things areharder.
Life is harder.
Tracy Jo Rollins (55:05):
Yeah, you know things are harder, life is
harder, yeah, you know can Itell you something, Scott, that
has helped me so much.
It's taking, do you?
Scott Brandley (55:22):
ever get up and just you just get out of bed and
just start going.
Tracy Jo Rollins (55:24):
I don't, I cannot live my life like that
anymore, like I, literally, if Ido that and get up and start
going, I stop and I go no, no,no, no.
This day is not going to belike that, because I can't.
I can't do days like that.
When I get up in the morning,it's hey, heavenly Father, hi,
(55:49):
heavenly Mother I believe we areHeavenly Mothers.
I'm like Hi, heavenly Father,hi Heavenly Mother, I'm here,
what can I do for you today?
And we have a conversation andI might get out my book and
start writing it.
And then I sit and vision and Idon't do this perfectly all the
time, don't get me wrong, butthese are some of the things
(56:09):
that I do, and I do it in themorning because I believe we can
create our day every day, orit's going to create us, right.
So then, okay, what is myintention for this day, heavenly
Father?
It's like co-creating your daywith God.
What would you have me to do?
(56:32):
What can I do for you today?
And I get answers and I'm likeokay, so we start writing, and
some of them are about mybusiness.
Okay, um, go, look for your,for your next person that you
know that you're going to helpwith you, know this or that next
person that you know thatyou're going to help with you,
know this or that?
Okay, this is talk to thisperson today.
Um, I know that you've beenwanting to.
You know, do X, y, z, because Ibelieve that God respects my
(56:57):
free will and my agency and thedesires of my heart too.
Some people think, oh, it's allGod's will.
What if I'm not doing his willright?
What if I'm going the wrongdirection?
Guess what?
What I've realized is he wantsme to have hopes and dreams and
live them.
And if you don't believe that,there are so many prophets out
(57:21):
there who have said those things, go start looking for that that
God wants you to dream big andhe wants you to be fabulous and
he wants you remember maybe wecan just kind of end with this
Remember the story about the guyon the cruise and he had saved
(57:42):
all of his money to go on thiscruise and finally he gets to go
on the cruise and he's soexcited and whenever people are,
like at lunchtime, atdinnertime, he goes back to his
cabin, opens his suitcase and hehas cans of tuna, beans,
crackers, peanut butter that hebrought with him and he walks
(58:03):
through the cruise looking atthe delicious foods and, oh man,
oh, I wish I could like go havefun with these people and these
activities.
The last day the porter comes upto him and says hey, mr Jones,
the captain would like you tosit at the table and dine with
him tonight.
He usually likes to try to geteverybody at his table at some
(58:23):
point and he said oh, I'm sosorry, I could only afford the
cruise.
I couldn't afford to pay forall the food.
And the porter looked at himfunny and he goes what do you
mean?
All the foods included?
And the poor man is like it'sthe last day of the cruise.
I want every juicy drop of lifethat I get to have.
(58:51):
So I'm going to, I'm going tojust soak it in.
And oh, we're on a ride book.
I won't want to ride horses, Iwant to plant a garden.
Oh, I want to ride a rollercoaster.
Oh, I want to go to the beach.
Let's do it.
I think God wants us to havejoy.
I's do it.
I think God wants us to havejoy.
I think so too.
Scott Brandley (59:12):
I think God wants us to be friends, because
those are things that I thinkwould be great to do.
Alisha Coakley (59:21):
I love that, oh gosh.
Well, miss Tracy Jo, as usual,you just left us smiling.
My cheeks are hurting a littlebit right here.
My eyes are super squinty.
I cried Check, check, check,good job.
But we really appreciate youcoming on and just sharing your
(59:43):
story.
We're so glad that you're okay.
We're so glad that you're stillcontinuing to live life to be
an example to others, to be alight to the world, and so
please just keep us updated onall the beautiful things that
you still are doing and let usknow for sure, when you are
getting to the tail end ofwrapping up your book and you're
ready to start pushing it forpublishing and stuff, we would
(01:00:04):
love to have you come on, sharea little bit more about it.
You know we can share links andstuff like that for you too.
Tracy Jo Rollins (01:00:09):
I just think that that would be super cool,
so thank you Awesome I willThank you so much for letting me
be on and share the story.
I feel so grateful to be hereand I am grateful for what you
guys are doing and sharing allof these amazing stories with
people.
Scott Brandley (01:00:29):
I love what you're doing.
Tracy Jo Rollins (01:00:33):
Any last thoughts before we wrap things
up Find joy in the journey,choose joy.
It's really important to knowthat you have the power to
choose how you feel about yourexperiences.
You get to choose if you wantto be angry about it or you get
(01:00:53):
to choose if you want to turn itover to God and let him have
all that.
You can sit and I believe thatwe need to feel our emotions,
feel our feelings, but you getto choose how long you stay
there.
Yeah, oh, I just like to, whenI'm in a really tough situation,
(01:01:18):
pause, take a deep breath andsay what would I learn instead?
How do I want to feel aboutthis?
Those are two really goodquestions.
Alisha Coakley (01:01:32):
That's super helpful.
Yeah, all right.
Well, thank you again, tracy,jo, we appreciate it, and thank
you to all of our listeners.
Guys, we just love being ableto do this podcast.
We love having stories likeTracy's that really do inspire,
and we are always looking forother guests who want to come on
the show, who want to sharetheir own stories, ways that
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their testimonies have grown andand perspectives that they've
gained throughout life that'sbrought them closer to Christ
and closer to their purpose, andso if that's you, or if you
know someone who has a storythat would really need to be
shared on this podcast, we wantto hear from you.
Please, please, please, be sureto reach out to us.
You can either email us atlatterdaylightsgmailcom or you
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fill out the contact form at thebottom of the first page there.
So don't be shy.
Make sure that you guys reachout to us, just like Tracy did.
She said I think I did it thefirst time and then now you did
it the second time.
Scott Brandley (01:02:31):
So well, good luck with the next couple of
days of of your seminar.
Alisha Coakley (01:02:36):
That sounds amazing.
Scott Brandley (01:02:38):
And thanks for taking out some time to tell us
your story and share that withus.
That's very inspiring.
Tracy Jo Rollins (01:02:43):
Thanks for having me on, no problem.
Scott Brandley (01:02:46):
Well, thanks.
Thanks everyone having me on,no problem.
Thanks everyone for joining uson the show again and we will
talk to you next week withanother episode.
Until then, take care, bye-bye.
Alisha Coakley (01:02:55):
Bye guys.
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