March 11, 2025 • 44 mins
The transformative power of inner change ripples through every aspect of Coach JV's extraordinary life story. From the depths of opiate addiction and a suicide attempt in 2006 to building multiple successful companies and achieving financial freedom, his journey reveals that our external reality shifts dramatically when we address our internal landscape first.
"When I changed me, the environment changed," Coach JV explains, sharing how he went from selling everything he owned to feed his addiction to completely reinventing himself through spiritual awakening and dedicated personal development. With raw vulnerability, he recounts the pivotal moment when, unable to buy Christmas presents for his three-year-old daughter, he realized he'd hit rock bottom. That crisis became the catalyst for what he describes as the death of John Vasquez and the birth of Coach JV.
What makes this conversation so powerful is Coach JV's unflinching honesty about his transformation. Starting as a banker after recovery, he climbed rapidly through the corporate ranks, acquiring the trappings of conventional success—only to discover he was still chasing external validation. A chance conversation with a contented gardener during executive banking school sparked a deeper questioning that led to his true purpose: helping others escape the "just-over-broke" system through financial education and spiritual growth.
His perspective on cryptocurrency offers particularly valuable insights. Rather than viewing crypto as a speculative gamble, Coach JV analyzes it through the lens of his banking expertise, identifying coins with genuine utility in the evolving financial infrastructure. He shares his diversification strategy that combines high-growth potential assets with more stable investments like cash-value life insurance, real estate, and dividend-producing stocks.
Ready to transform your relationship with money and discover how internal shifts create external abundance? Connect with Coach JV on social media or visit his platforms to learn how you can break free from financial limitations while building a life of genuine purpose and fulfillment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When I changed me, the environment changed.
So when I started, you know.
Now here I am broke, gettingoff of opiates being evicted
from my apartment.
I literally didn't have moneyto pay for my apartment.
It's completely empty becauseI've sold everything in my
apartment except my daughter's.
I don't think Trump really hasa choice to not be pro-crypto
with technology and advancementtoday.
(00:20):
I don't think he has a choice.
So it's kind of like it's afreight train going forward.
You're either going to get onit and go for the ride of your
life or you're going to get ranover by it, but everybody's
going to be on that train.
So I think he had to make adecision and they said it was
through his son.
The sons are like this is real,this is really happening Now.
What I don't agree with is likeI think what you're talking
about is how inaugurated thatjust wrecked a bunch of people,
(00:42):
right.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
My name is Michael Guy, a publisher of the Lead
Lager Forward.
Joining me here is Coach JV.
First time I'm meeting Coach JV, but he's got quite a big
following across Instagram, xand various platforms, so
introduce yourself to theaudience, to me as well.
Who are you, what's yourbackground, what have you done
throughout your career and whatdo you know?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Actually, absolutely man.
I'm Coach JV, so it's an honorto be here and it's been an
interesting year.
So I'm Coach JV, so I'm bestknown for my expertise in macro
and microeconomics and my greatawakening in my spiritual
journey from suicide on December18, 2006 to financial freedom
education and we teach peoplehow to break free from the just
(01:26):
overbroke system.
And so it's been a dynamicjourney.
And here we are, my friend.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So I don't know how deep you want to get into that
part of your life.
But since you mentioned, I feellike I have to ask the question
somewhat what exactly happened?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, so I attempted suicide.
I say committed suicide becauseJohn Vasquez died and JV was
born on December 18th 2006 dueto a massive opiate addiction.
So I did one of the mostselfish acts a human being could
do with a three-year-olddaughter in tow.
I was a father of athree-year-old daughter and I
attempted suicide and I woke up48 hours later to a phone call
(02:01):
from my mother.
I took a massive amount ofopiates because I thought there
was no way out and I woke upfrom a phone call from my mother
and I'd never heard my motherspeak like this, ever.
She didn't know that she wokeme up from an attempted suicide.
I kind of came into the fog andI answered the phone and she
said you need to read a bookcalled the Secret.
Your grandma read the book andshe had no idea what I had just
(02:21):
done.
And I read the book the Secret,and that's how this whole
journey started 18 years ago.
I had no real spiritualconnection.
I was never taught about God, Iwas never taught about Jesus
Christ, I was really nevertaught about principles, morals,
ethics.
I really didn't have a goodleadership structure within my
life for anybody to guide me.
And so that's how it startedLearning about.
Thoughts become thingsmanifestation, and that journey
(02:43):
has taken me on this wildjourney from completely losing
everything to, um, where I'm attoday.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
So so your mother obviously was a uh important
influence on your life.
If I can ask, what about yourfather?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, my father's a great human being man.
He he did everything he neededto do to provide a food, shelter
Um he, definitely we don't havethe greatest relationship, but
I say he's a great human beingcause he's been my greatest
teacher.
Um he, definitely we don't havethe greatest relationship, but
I say he's a great human beingbecause he's been my greatest
teacher.
Um, he did the best he couldwith the resources he had.
He's in my life.
He's been there for us.
He was a great provider, uh, butnever was someone who really,
um taught me anything about lifein general.
I mean didn't really teach meabout principles, morals, ethics
(03:19):
.
He was too busy providing, andthat's what he was taught to do
by his father.
He was never told you know, Ilove you by his father, so he
didn't have a really lovingrelationship with me, and so, as
a man, I really didn't havethat role model to look up to,
and so my mother was a big partof my life, and now I see my
father as one of the greatestteachers.
(03:40):
Because of him and because ofthose teachings, I have now
become an even better father.
Because of him and because ofthose teachings, I have now
become an even better father.
So I did the opposite of whatmy father did, and now having
two children is I embody loveinto them, encouragement,
teaching them principles, moralsand ethics.
So I think he is one of thegreatest fathers ever.
He's the greatest teacher.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
What do you think when hindsight led up to that,
that desire to end it Meaning?
Was it actual physicaldepression?
Was it despair because you feltyet like you had no prospects
for a better future?
What got you into the prank?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
yeah.
So I was a clean-cut guy.
I went in the military right athigh school and, um, I had uh,
went in the military, servedfive years in the coast Guard,
got out clean-cut guy.
I was a normal dude.
I would, you know, hang out,drink some beers with my buddies
, wasn't a big partier, didn'tdo any drugs, wasn't really a.
I was into fitness, mindset,working out, exercise and I got
(04:36):
a leg injury and I wasintroduced to opiates.
Now the problem is withintroducing opiates to somebody
who was very insecure, a brokenlittle boy that didn't have a
lot of leadership.
Some things happened to me as achild that shouldn't happen to
a child.
So I had a lot of childhoodtrauma that was really really
pushed down deep inside of me.
And when I took the opiate,I'll never forget the moment
when I took that opiate.
I was driving.
I remember the exact underpassI was driving.
(04:57):
It gave me this like superhumanconfidence If anybody's ever
felt that vibration and whypeople get addicted to it and
the injury no longer matteredanymore.
And so the next day I took itagain.
I got the same feeling.
The next day I took it againand then I kept complaining
about the injury.
Doctor prescribed me more wentfrom two pills to three pills,
to five pills, to seven pills,to a hundred pills and I became
(05:19):
a full-blown functional junkie.
And then I startedtransitioning, like a lot of
opiod addicts, from a clean cutguy to buying it on the black
market, experiencing with otherdrugs because I couldn't get
high anymore.
So I went from a clean cut guyrunning a very legit business to
a complete full-blown junkie by2026, burning through all the
money within our businesses,burning through the money within
my accounts, became a horribleperson, a horrible father, and
(05:44):
by the time I got to the pointwhere everything was gone.
My money was gone.
I was on December 18th 2006 whenI attempted the suicide.
I went to Walmart to buy aChristmas presents for my
daughter, swiped my first.
Now, about six months earlier,I had about 60 grand in my bank
account, so you can imagine howmuch money I spent on drugs.
I swiped, my debit carddeclined, swiped my credit card
(06:04):
declined.
I didn't even realize I wasbroke.
I didn't even realize thebusiness had run into the ground
and I went over to a bank ofAmerica at that time and the
banker sitting across me I'dnever seen an overdraft account
in my life and he turned ittowards me and all I saw was red
, and I started to hear thisringing in my ears and I was
deep in the drugs at that point.
I mean, if anybody's beenaddicted to opiates at that
level, it was a very, very, very, very dark place.
(06:27):
I would wake up every morningand my main goal was to get more
opiates, to get more drugs, andI was injecting it into my
veins as well.
I was using an opiate that Icould inject into my veins and
it was horrible.
And so at that moment I knewthe gig was up, my money was
gone, I had ran my business intothe ground, I couldn't even
take care of my daughter, I wasjust weeks away from being
(06:48):
evicted from my apartment, andall I could hear was this voice
inside of my head that endedit's over.
And it was that same voice that, when I was a little boy that
had no self-confidence, that wastold that he wasn't worth it,
it wasn't enough.
And I realized that line I'dhit, that line that had been
drawn for me, and I decided togo to my office and just load up
(07:10):
a massive amount of opiates andI didn't see a way out.
I couldn't see the light.
I couldn't see the way out.
I had no spiritual connection.
I had no connection to God orJesus Christ and, ironically,
I'd never been taught about Godor Jesus Christ.
Christmas was Easter, santaClaus and Easter was the Easter
bunny.
Right when I was a kid, growingup, and I'd never been taught
how to pray.
But for some reason, I kneltdown in that moment and I prayed
(07:31):
for the first time in my lifeand I said dear father, god, and
I did this prayer to this thingor whatever it is out there,
and I truly believe that thatprayer is what got me through it
and I woke up 48 hours laterand that's how it all
transmitted Now.
That journey was brutal, fromrecovering from the opiates and
to where I'm at today, but herewe are.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Talk about the spiritual connection.
By the way, I appreciate thevulnerability.
I always make it a point thatto develop a relationship, any
kind of relationship, whetherit's a business relationship,
personal relationship, somebodyhas to be willing to be
vulnerable, right and to takethe first step to have that
relationship.
But as far as relationships go,relationship with God, what
(08:16):
about support system Meaning?
I'm sure there were friendsthat were seeing what was going
on, trying to intervene.
I mean, talk me through that alittle bit.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
seeing what was going on, trying to intervene?
I mean, talk me through that alittle bit.
Yeah, I think I was prettysiloed because of the
environment that I created formyself.
No fault of anybody, I hadbroken all the positive
relationships I had in my life.
I had good people in my lifewhen I started out the journey
and, because of my environmentthat I created, the people
around me were all addicted aswell, and so they were doing the
best they can to survive and Iwas doing the best I could to
survive.
(08:44):
But I had broken all therelationships that were had
added any value to my life, thatwere somewhat high frequency,
uh, people that I could lean on,right, and it wasn't that they
abandoned me, I abandoned myself.
And so I thought, within myparadigm, I'm sure I could have
turned any of those people.
And my mom, you know she admitstoday that she knew that
something was wrong and, um, youknow, she, she, she had moments
(09:05):
where she was trying to help mewith it, but I was too far gone
, but it was.
It was again.
You're a product of yourenvironment.
Now, interesting enough, whichis you brought that up is, uh,
how, how?
Life cycles, right.
So I got on opiates because ofthe leg injury.
Ironically, in 2023, just twoyears ago, I had a vicious quad
tear where I ripped the quad offthe base of the knee and a
(09:26):
horrible injury, and I gotprescribed opiates, which is
wild to be in that type ofparadigm.
Here I am now succeeding,financially free, spiritually
free, running all thesecompanies, and I get presented
the same situation, the sameparadigm.
The difference was myenvironment.
I have amazing, amazing,amazing human beings around me
(09:46):
that supported me through thejourney.
For example, when I gotprescribed the opiate with that
red cap, I immediately reachedout to somebody very close to me
and said I'm scared, like I donot want to fall back into this
paradigm again.
I need your support.
And that person said to me theysaid what are?
What is the opiate used for?
I said for pain.
And they said what are you inthe most pain?
I said right before I go tosleep.
They said take it before you goto sleep.
So I had the right environmentaround me, I had the right
(10:06):
support system.
I had people that would call meon my stuff.
So it was all environmental.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I was in the wrong environment around the wrong
people and because I created thesafety and community, and
that's an outsider listening tothis fascinating to think
through, because you go throughthis traumatic experience two
days later.
Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong,but I guess the sense that
(10:37):
people that attempt suicide,other people, start to look at
them differently if they areaware of that, right, so you
want to create a positiveenvironment, you want to have
the right people around you, butmaybe the right people are
almost afraid to be around you,given how fresh a lot of things
were.
(10:57):
So how did you after, afterthat, find the right crew?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
yeah, great question, phenomenal question.
So it's all micro to the macro.
I thought it was macro to themicro.
I thought I had to change theenvironment to change me.
When I changed me, theenvironment changed.
So when I started, you know.
Now here am broke, getting offof opiates, being evicted from
my apartment.
I literally didn't have moneyto pay for my apartment.
(11:25):
It's completely empty becauseI've sold everything in my
apartment except my daughter's,except my daughter's room.
That's the only thing I didn'tsell.
I got rid of everything fordrugs.
So here I am in an emptyapartment now.
I have nobody around me, butall I had was myself.
And I started to really embodythe book the Secret.
I'm like, I am powerful, I amstrong, I am worthy, I am
(11:46):
abundant.
That I am.
And I started to really embodythis within myself and I started
to feel this vibrational freak.
I didn't know that's what itwas back then I started to feel
a change within myself and Iremember this to the T is I went
, walked outside about two weekslater.
I mean, there was two weeks ofjust me puking and throwing up
and working to get off theopiates and I slowly
transitioned off.
I remember walking outside and,for the first time ever, ever,
(12:07):
I saw a flower.
I'm like that's a pretty flower.
And I'm like, well, did I justsay that was a pretty flower?
And I'm like I started torecognize the things around me.
I had nothing left.
There was nothing left, so allI could recognize was the things
that were in my present reality.
I couldn't pay my rent, Icouldn't even go out to eat, I
couldn't do anything other thanwalk, and so I'd walk, and
there's a place called VellistaLakes where I used to live,
right by these apartments, and Iwould sit in that grass and I
(12:29):
would manifest and I would lookat that.
And what I noticed is when Ichanged, when I changed, the
people showed up.
I stopped looking for thepeople.
So when I changed internally,the environment would show up
and then I was like, okay,there's something to this, right
.
Then, all of a sudden, I get acall from somebody saying, hey,
(12:50):
we have an offer for you or Iwant you to apply for this job.
I apply for this job, whichgets me into the bank.
And then I started to see thatit was a direct reflection from
internally, it was a mere effect.
So the actual drug addict andthe environment that I created
was created by me and no oneelse.
When I took full responsibilityfor that and I said you created
every single thing you created.
Being a bad father, you createdbecoming an opiate addict.
You created this environment.
(13:11):
Since you created that, you cancreate a new environment.
So it wasn't that I looked forsomething externally.
I fixed the internal and theexternal found me, and that's
the whole journey I've been onfor the 18 years.
So the reality that I'mexperiencing now.
I just posted this today onTwitter.
I said nobody's hating on you.
Nobody's hating on you.
It's a reflection of you.
(13:31):
That's all it is.
I'm speaking to the wholeaudience here.
Nobody's hating on you, it's areflection of you.
If you're viscerally respondingto it, that means there's truth
in it.
So I no longer see the haters.
When I see hate, if there's avisceral response, it's the
truth and what I need to work onin myself.
It's coming from me.
So when I started to love myselfthe broken little boy and I
started to heal the brokenlittle boy inside, because I had
(13:53):
to, I now have a 20-year-olddaughter.
She's a beautiful, amazinghuman being.
You know she's.
She went through this wholejourney with me.
I have a nine year old son nowthat it's my responsibility for
these two children to heal thebroken little boy inside.
There's not an outside, ineffect.
So through that internaljourney I have now manifested
the reality around me, which ispositive.
High frequency love, uh uh, youknow building conversations
(14:16):
high, you know all that type ofstuff.
So it was internal to external.
It wasn't changing the externalto the internal.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
It's a very hard thing to look inward.
I mean, in general, it's veryhard.
You have to go deep.
You have to understand thesubconscious and why.
We're the sum total of all thesuccesses and failures, of not
just how we grew up, but also ofour parents, right, and those
that are around us.
A lot of people hearing thiswould say, well, you know why
(14:50):
not just go for, you know,talking to a psychologist or
psychiatrist and sort of outsidehelp?
Because it doesn't sound to me,unless I'm wrong, like you did,
that this was you doing ityourself, right, kind of digging
deep.
Yeah't sound to me, unless I'mwrong, like you did, that this
was you doing it yourself, right, kind of digging deep.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah, now, I had people in my life.
Yeah, there was.
There was a gentleman named JoeItalic that I give honor and
grace to all the time and praiseto.
There was a gentleman named JoeItalic.
That was a pivotal part of mylife, that gave me some tools
and resources that I could helpexternally, but what I meant by
that is there's no one externallike a psychologist.
Counselors are all great I mean, these are all things, are all
resources but for example um, Italk openly about this I go to
(15:25):
Peru every single year and I doplant medicines and I don't
encourage people do that,because what they do is they go
do plant medicines and all themedicine does is expose you to
who you are and what you need towork on.
It doesn't heal you, right?
The psychologist isn't healingyou.
The counselor isn't healing you.
The medicine isn't healing you.
You know, all it's doing isrevealing you, and so once the
mentor, the psychologist, theplant medicine, whatever it is
(15:46):
reveals you, it's there for usto heal and unless we go through
that healing process, our soulis just going to keep cycling.
You see it in the and that'swhy I got so good at the crypto
markets and macroeconomics,because it's all just one big
micro to macro cycle.
That's all we're experiencing.
And so it wasn't that theoutside sources are not needed.
They're definitely needed.
Mentors are needed, guides areneeded, people are needed God
(16:09):
for me and Jesus Christ isneeded.
That's where I get all my gloryfrom, not my glory I give all
the glory to, but they're onlyallowing us an opportunity to
see what we need to heal inourselves.
And if we don't do the work,we're like the guy sitting on
the mat waiting for the fountainwhere Jesus went up to him and
said do you want to be healed?
Right, and he said pick up yourmat and walk.
And I really feel that's whatsociety is struggling with right
(16:30):
now is we're waiting for asavior, waiting for Trump to.
We waited for Trump to comeback, and the left is going to
wait for the next president tocome in, and it's a constant
waiting when it's all internal.
So people can just reveal whatyou need to heal, but if you're
not willing to heal, you'regoing to repeat the cycle.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
So I've been very public on my social feed about
my physical health journey Lost100 pounds in the span of a year
fasting, started going to thegym two to three hours every
single day and you know to psychmyself up when I wake up at 4
am.
I've got YouTube videos ofmotivational.
You know speakers and peoplelike Rick Roll, david Goggins,
(17:10):
you know types like that, jockoright, and there's a great line,
something along the lines ofthe boy becomes the man when the
boy realizes nobody's going tosave him.
Right, and I think there's alot of truth to that.
Now you mentioned micro tomacro.
I myself very much believe this.
(17:31):
I think micro helps you survive.
I think macro helps you thrive.
If the macro is against you,the best you can do is just try
to survive through it, becauseyou need that tailwind really to
really kind of blow up and, Ithink, be super successful.
I mean, maybe there's some rarecases where that's not the case
, but you talk about thesedifferent businesses.
So take me through what exactlyhappens.
(17:54):
So you go through this journey,you're improving, you're
feeling stronger, you'rebecoming a new person.
How do you go from that toentrepreneur?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, man, that was a journey, so I'll try to
condense it in a Reader's Digestversion as much as I can.
So I ended up getting thatgentleman who basically got me
on track and helped me, joeItalic.
He called me and said hey, wegot a job for you.
At this point I was willing todo anything just to get income,
to be able to get my daughter inthe right place, in the right
paradigm, and so I ended upgetting an offer to go to a bank
(18:25):
and to interview for a position.
I thought it was like a janitoror something.
I mean I was going frompersonal trainer business type
thing.
It didn't make any sense.
So I went to Goodwill, bought asuit for 50 cents, got the suit
, went to the interview and Iwas sitting across from a lady
named Lori Schmidt I alwayshonor her as well and I was
interviewing for a position andI really I was using all my
manifestation techniques, Iworked on my energy and all that
stuff and I went through theinterview.
(18:46):
I can't remember what was said,but I do remember when she left
she said we'll give you a callif we're interested in sharing a
position with you.
This is really important to thestory.
She called me about 15 minuteslater.
I was in the car and she saidhey, listen, we want to offer
you a job and I'm like awesome,and I'm thinking like a janitor
or something.
She's like we want to offer youa banker position.
I was like a banker and I'mlike what she's like, we can
(19:07):
train you.
We liked your energy.
I thought and that didn't hitme until are very close I was
like mom, I just got a job.
She's like, as what I said, abanker.
She goes.
You can't do math and I said Iknow you have dyslexia.
I said I know, but they hiredme and they can train me.
(19:33):
And so I started this journey asa banker.
I implemented all the like youtalked about Les Brown, bob
Proctor.
So I was following all thesethings.
I was doing all the techniques,think and Grow Rich Secrets of
the Millionaire Mind.
I was doing all this stuff.
I would show up beforeeverybody, leave after everybody
, and I became the mostdisciplined, consistent person I
have ever met in my life and itwas me against me.
(19:54):
And so I moved up very quicklyin the bank, from banker to
branch manager, to the districtmanager, to VP, to running a
large part of the bank and Iwent to CBA Executive Banking
School and that's where myspiritual awakening started.
I went to South Carolina.
I was a banker in Arizona,ended up going to South Carolina
, to Greenville FurmanUniversity, which is in
Greenville, south Carolina.
We didn't go to Furman, but theexecutives would converge on
(20:16):
this campus every summer.
We would use our campus to goto CBA executive banking school,
which we learned how to scalebanks and most beautiful place
I've ever been in my life.
Oh, there was a thing that Inoticed and I was going through
a spiritual awakening in them.
And there's all these bankersfrom all over the world and
they're making a quarter of amillion to a million.
Some are going to be CFOs CEOsand they all seemed miserable.
(20:36):
I mean, they're all shootingfor the next position, the next
car.
And I met this gardener.
The garden is beautiful there Imean unbelievable.
And there's this guy gardeningand he was just so attentive to
the garden and I was talking tohim like man, this garden is so
beautiful, and he was like wejust started talking and
chatting and he's like what doyou do?
And I'm like I want to be aregional president, president,
want to do this.
He's like oh, so that makes youhappy?
And I said I don't know, hegoes.
(20:58):
What makes you happy?
And I couldn't answer thequestion.
I said what makes you happy?
He goes.
I have everything I need.
I got my garden.
I go home, I got my wife, I gotmy family, I got God, I got
church, I got my grandkids.
And I was like what is happiness, man?
And so I didn't feel right tome and I went on this crazy
journey of spiritual awakeningand trying to understand what
(21:22):
this is Like.
What is all of this?
Because now I'm a banker, a VP,I got the BMW, I got the big
house, I got the suits, and Istill was miserable.
I was back in the sameaddiction.
It was like the stuff Look atme, look at me, dad, I've made
it.
And I finally realized thatthis is thing, this line that's
being drawn, that that we're allchasing, that doesn't exist.
And so when I left, um, I did avideo very early in my career.
(21:44):
Nothing worked out.
I left.
I created a podcast, I createda book, I launched my first
program, where we built it forsix months.
I launched my first program inJanuary 2018 and I launched it
on January 1st and nobody signedup, launched it again.
It completely failed.
Launched it again completelyfailed.
And until we went through thisprocess and I did a video early
(22:06):
in 2018 that said I want tobecome a warrior in a modern day
society and I always say becareful what you ask for.
God gave me what I asked for.
He stripped me down to nothingagain, took away all my money,
finally got an investor, got thebusiness back up and then in
2020, they took everything fromus.
They came and shut our businessdown.
I lost everything, everything.
(22:28):
The only thing I didn't touchwas my crypto.
So I packed my kids up.
Now here I am for the secondtime going through this process.
Imagine my father's face when Iopened that door.
I knocked on their door, Ipacked my kids up, moved into
their thousand square foot homeand I said just give me a little
bit of time.
And in that moment, I drew aline in the sand.
I became more committed to thepain of change and staying the
same, and I completely devotedmy life to rewiring my brain, to
understanding how money movesthrough the system, how energy
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works, how these cycles work,and I devoted my life to it.
And from 2020 to 2025, where wesit currently.
We've developed six companiesin information technology,
attention, education andfinancial services.
What we basically did iseverything I was learning and
everything we were using.
We decided to build and getequity in and start to build
(23:11):
pathways for people to buildfinancial literacy, financial
education and to help them buildcareers and things they love to
do.
And so that's my passion now isI spend all my time doing things
that I love and sharing thatinformation with other people,
and so what I do is I go forward, I build safety and I come back
and teach, and that's my wholelife, that's my whole journey,
and I don't work a day in mylife because I get to be with
(23:32):
cool people.
Every single day, I get toembody who I truly am.
And so, you know, now we havesix companies.
Um, uh, you know we'refinancially free in the aspect
of you know, we know we don'ttrade time for money anymore.
We do what we want.
I guess that's you know.
People say passive income, butwhat we trade time for is things
we'd love to do.
So, therefore, we no longerwork for money anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
You mentioned crypto a few times.
First of all, how did you evenget turned to crypto and talk to
me through sort of how you evenwent about analyzing what to
put fiat into walked into ourfacility so we have a warrior
(24:17):
academy over here and he saidhave you ever heard of XRP?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
And it's so interesting.
You said Phoenix rising fromthe ashes on your necklace and
the first thing I saw was aPhoenix rising from the ashes.
Xrp is a currency that Trumpjust announced is going to be
part of the crypto strategicreserve.
So I pulled it up and it showeda Phoenix rising from the ashes
.
It was the essence of my storythe Phoenix rising from the
ashes.
And then I started to go deeperinto it.
Having my banking knowledge, Iknow how to scale banks from the
(24:39):
ground up and the first thing Iasked myself is why aren't
banks using this?
And I went deeper into researchand then I pulled up their
patent Ripple Bank of America'spatent.
Ripple is in their patent.
Then I started to connect thedots.
There's somethinginfrastructural happening here
and I stopped looking at theseas get rich quick and I started
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looking at the infrastructuralchange in a financial system.
Financial systems change aboutevery hundred years and I
started to look at our old,antiquated, broken system, our
DOS system.
They have an old, archaic SWIFTsystem.
Technology is starting to moveat the speed of light, so I
started to look atinfrastructure.
I started to look at the newthing like Bitcoin as a store of
value, like gold.
So I started to look at these asinfrastructure, payment tokens
and how the new financial systemwas going to change, and then
we built a very fundamentalportfolio in 2020.
(25:24):
And then we started to talkabout it on socials and we got
ridiculed, we got mocked andthen, as this Sunday, just
recently, the ones we've beentalking about specifically XRP,
bitcoin, solana, ethereum, adaare all some of the top five in
our portfolio and they are nowjust announced as a new part of
our financial system within thecrypto strategic reserve.
(25:44):
So it was more about notgetting rich quick.
It was about understanding theinfrastructural change and
really standing on that truth,even though everybody was
telling us to run from it, andso we stuck on that, based on
our knowledge and also studyinghistory.
So if you study Ray Dalio,going back 500 years of rise and
falls of empires, our countryis going through a massive shift
(26:04):
, and so that's how we startedin it and we've stuck to it.
But also we're very diversifiedoutside of crypto to lessen the
volatility.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Let's talk about that diversification, because it's
been a weird five yearsVolatility, a lot of things
bonds were supposed to be notvolatile been very volatile,
except for junk debt, which Ithink are about to get super
volatile, but then again I'vebeen wrong on that.
Um.
So what else do you?
Do you diversify crypto against?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
yeah, so I use the risk pyramid.
So you know, if you look at arisk pyramid as you go up the
left side, you got high risk,high return.
Crypto is a shining star itthis.
It's like it's like you're in ayou know, in a ocean bobbing
around Right.
So what I do is I pull profitsfrom high risk, high return.
When it goes up with an exitplan Bitcoin to hold a hundred
percent, I pull it down the riskpyramid.
(26:49):
I'm huge on cash value lifeinsurance.
So we have me and my partnerhave 11 policies combined.
We bank on ourselves, so we useBitcoin as a bank and we use
insurance as a bank.
So from there, from insurance,cash value, life insurance to
protect, compound and growsilver real estate we have
businesses in six differentareas.
We actually diversified inbusiness too to get through this
volatility, and so when onebusiness is down, the other
(27:11):
business is up, and then I usedividend ETF stocks for cashflow
.
But I'm always de-risking backinto Bitcoin and XRP because I'm
moving from US.
Dollar is designed by theFederal Reserve to be an
inflationary asset, so everyyear our dollar becomes less
valuable.
So what I do is I'm transmutingmy cash into deflationary
things like Bitcoin and XRP.
(27:31):
So I pull it down the riskpyramid to pull out that
volatility.
So when it's going down, I buy,when it's going up, I pull, and
so, instead of my portfoliolooking like down the risk
pyramid to pull out thatvolatility, so when it's going
down I buy, when it's going up Ipull and I.
So, instead of my portfoliolooking like this, it looks more
like this so I'm not I'mdefinitely not an anti crypto
guy.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I'm just hesitant around certain narratives, right
?
I myself have argued that, forexample, bitcoin makes sense to
have in a portfolio, because thereal definition of the market
is all investable assets, justweighting them in different ways
, right, things that don'tdepreciate.
You're obviously a verywell-spoken thought individual,
(28:07):
a thought leader.
You come across from a verypositive perspective.
Is a criticism which I think issomewhat justified, that the
crypto community at large tendsto be overtly and overly
abrasive and maybe not, as youknow, positive and very much
sort of um chest pumping interms of performance, uh, rather
(28:33):
than seeing this as atechnology that can better
society.
Am I off on that?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
No, you're not.
That's a clear, 100%, mediamanipulated perception that they
want.
You nailed it.
No, you 100% nailed it becausethat's what the media feeds us.
It's indoctrination.
They feed you that it's a bunchof chess pumping meme coin
pumping, and that's actually nottrue.
Pumping meme coin pumping, andthat's actually not true.
(29:00):
There's a huge, huge amount ofreal world fundamental investors
, billionaires, investing inbitcoin and people are starting
to see too.
Sunday was a huge announcement.
Trump announced that you knowthe five top cryptos that are
going to be in the cryptostrategic reserve.
You know there's massive assetmanagers getting involved.
And so that you you nailed itbecause that is the perception
and that was on purpose.
It was to get people to thinkit's fraudulent, to get people
to think that it's just memecoin.
(29:23):
It's casinos, and they got usto look this way.
Blackrock is the number twoholder in Bitcoin in the world.
Microstrategies is number three.
Blackrock is the top threeholder in MicroStrategies.
You got Grayscale in Americathe top four holders in Bitcoin.
So the very thing that the mediaindoctrinated us to believe
that it's this casino.
Yes, there is a casino part ofit and that is very, very, very,
(29:44):
very nasty and gross and peopleget wrecked, but there's a
whole other part of it of realworld, fundamental people.
The XRP community is abeautiful community.
I think the Bitcoin communityhas a lot of great people within
it as well.
But I think what the media doesit works to push us through a
narrative, to make us think acertain thing, as the asset
managers are getting heavilyinvolved in it.
So what you're going to see2025 to 2030 is your banks.
(30:07):
Now I guarantee you're going tosee commercials say, hey,
custody your crypto.
Here.
It's all a narrative to getpeople.
Of course, anything that'sspeculative.
You have to be very, verycareful.
That's why we have an exit plan.
But no, your perception iscorrect, because that's what
we've been fed, so that we don'tget involved in the new system.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I'm curious to hear your take on Trump being the in
quote crypto president.
Last 48, 72 hours have beenkind of crazy.
Hours have been kind of crazy.
Um, and I myself, um, havecriticized pretty loudly some of
(30:43):
the posts that I'm seeing, um,and what seems like insider
information, with some of thesetrades that have gone on with
leverage before the summit andafterwards and all this um, you
think, with hindsight, trump wasgoing to be a positive or
negative for the industry?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
In hindsight, when he came into presidency, we went
from an anti-crypto and thisisn't politics we went from
anti-crypto White House to afully pro-crypto White House,
but we had to take ourselves alittle bit further back.
This is why we study historyand stay non-emotional.
So seven years ago, trump saidthat we're going to be on an
even playing field monetarilybefore we know it.
(31:18):
Right, that was when he was inhis old presidency.
So when he was interviewed inthe past around cryptocurrency,
he said he's a dollar guy.
He's not really pro-crypto,right?
Everybody flipped In 2023,there was a narrative that
(31:51):
flipped.
Blackrock went from Bitcoin isused for money laundering to
Larry Fink said we made amistake, it's a flight to
quality.
He didn't use the word make amistake.
We were wrong about this, it'sa flight to quality.
Then, president, the Bitcoinpresident, bitcoin strategic
reserve he builds a wholepro-crypto cabinet and we find
out they have World LibertyFinancial, which is World
Liberty Financial I think I'msaying that correctly which him
and his sons have their own DeFiplatform.
It's all narrative based.
Everything is narrative based,but there's a whole deeper part
(32:13):
to this, though.
Whether Trump is pro-crypto ornot pro-crypto, the new system
cannot operate withoutblockchain.
It can't.
It doesn't matter if Trump waspro-crypto or Biden was
anti-crypto.
Ai technology coming in and thefaster payments and money.
So messaging is moving at thespeed of light.
Ai is moving at the speed oflight.
(32:33):
Now money has to move at thespeed of light.
No-transcript.
(33:02):
Bitcoin was created by SatoshiNakamoto when Brazil, russia,
india, china, south Africaworked to de-dollarize right
after one of the mostembarrassing financial collapses
in America and then, all of asudden, bitcoin which was used
for money laundering it was theworst thing ever stay away from
it is now going to save theAmerican monetary system and
Bitcoin.
The top four holders are allAmerican.
So there's something that we'renot seeing here and I don't
(33:26):
have the answer to that.
But I do know what deflationarylooks like and inflationary
environments look like, and I amseeing billionaires and big
asset managers start to movetheir money.
So I don't think Trump reallyhas a choice to not be
pro-crypto with technology andadvancement in AI.
I don't think he has a choice.
So it's kind of like it's afreight train going forward.
You're either going to get onit and go for the ride of your
life or you're going to get ranover by it, but everybody's
(33:46):
going to be on that train.
So I think he had to make adecision and they said it was
through his son.
The sons are really happeningNow.
What I don't agree with is, like, I think what you're talking
about is how they pumped a memecoin right before he was
inaugurated.
That just wrecked a bunch ofpeople, right?
But are these all narratives?
Because what happened is themarket's been sideways for five
(34:07):
weeks and then, all of a sudden,it didn't make sense for it to
be dropping like that.
We're in a bull run, but then,all of a sudden, he announces on
Sunday that the top those topfive cryptos and it just pumps
like crazy.
So what we're seeing is massivemarket manipulation, but the
system has always been that way,right?
Think about that.
They used to clip our coins.
Right Back in the days, wayback in history, they would clip
the coins.
There's always somethinghappening monetarily, where the
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1% and the elites are alwaystrying to stay in power with
money, and so there's just achange in the system, and I
don't think either Biden orTrump had a choice, but I think
Trump realized that hey, if Irun on this pro-crypto, it's
going to bode very well for me,and because it's the
infrastructural change.
Like Swift is switching tofaster payments, banks are
switching to Ripple XRP.
(34:49):
Ripple Ripple, specifically, isin Bank of America's patent.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
The CEO says as soon as we get regulatory, regulatory
clarity, we're going all in onfaster payments, so I don't
think he has a choice to not bepro crypto.
Yeah, and it's gonna be.
I mean, it's funny, right.
I mean I think um harris alsogot on board because they
realized they need to get theyounger vote, and the younger
vote, you know, likes to votewith their wallet, and sometimes
it's the digital wallet, right.
So I think that makes um sense,sense, some sense.
I, I agree with you, the um,and I put a post out that went
(35:19):
viral.
I said we're at the point wherethe entire United States is
drug pulling us.
I worry about the fabric ofsociety, though, from that
standpoint.
So I'm a big believer inderegulation, I'm a big believer
in decentralization, but it'sgoing to be messy to get to a
place where the market, I think,no longer rewards the silliness
(35:42):
that we're still seeing.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Absolutely, absolutely.
Yeah, you nailed it it's goingto be an ugly process.
Man, I've been telling peoplethat's what I hope to be on our
channel, you'll see.
I'm always talking about takingthe middle ground, being stoic,
being calm, being non-emotional, and I'm not telling people you
should get into crypto.
I'm telling people you shouldask yourself why you're
investing in something, not whatyou're invested in, because
it's going to be an ugly, nastyprocess.
(36:04):
First of all, we have all thisdisclosure happening, right,
which is going to shock peopleat a visceral level internally,
right.
Then we have this new systemcoming in, this new financial
system, right, deregulation,right, and it's almost like
unfettered.
It's like let's go, everybodygo after it, public and private
sector coming together.
But all we ever see is that wesee the shift to one side and we
(36:25):
see the shift to the other, andthe best thing for people to do
is to take the middle ground toreally ask themselves, like
what do I know about money?
What I know about money is thefiat system is broken.
I know that my dollar that'ssitting in my bank account right
now is worth about 3%purchasing power since the feds
created the dollar in 1913, orsorry, not the dollar, so the
feds federal reserve was createdin 1913, the dollars collapsed
(36:46):
97%.
So I know that I have thisdollar that has 3% purchasing
power, which is the mostpowerful monetary system in the
world, which is crazy, right.
So I'm like, okay, if it has 3%purchasing power and I'm being
paid in someone else's debtbecause there's no money in the
system, I need to transmute thatmoney into either real estate,
gold, silver, and now I foundthis new asset Bitcoin, xrp that
(37:08):
are deflationary, and that'swhat we're going to start to see
.
But you're right, it's going tobe an ugly process.
It's going to be an absoluteugly process.
I think we'll probably see somehyperinflation, because if
they're going to lower interestrates and they're going to turn
on quantitative easing again,what they're going to do is
they're going to buy bitcoin andxrp and things like that, and
that's going to deflate thedollar even more, and then we're
going to have to go into somehyper hyperinflation.
(37:29):
The system is going to have tocrash for a new system to come
in, in my opinion.
So what?
Speaker 2 (37:33):
do you think people get um most wrong about crypto?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
uh, that it's, it's used from I mean, it's a people.
The biggest thing I hear allthe time is it's used for money
launder, it's used for this.
So is the dollar.
It's a tool, right.
It's like I hear that all thetime like it's used for this,
it's used for that.
They're literally parrotingwhat they hear.
The dollar is used for allthese things and I think what
people get wrong is notunderstanding what the tool is.
Right.
It's a tool, right.
(37:59):
Right, I can use this phone totrade cryptocurrency.
I can use it to read the Bible.
I can also use it to do veryunethical things.
Right, it's a tool.
It's the user of the tool.
It's understanding what thetool and the mechanism is.
I think what people get wrong atcrypto that it's this, that the
whole crypto market as a wholeis just this casino.
Right, and it gets that bad rapbecause there is a lot of
(38:23):
unethical things happening incryptocurrency the meme coins,
the pump and dumps, that no realworld solver utility and I
think what they get wrong isbecause of the public.
The media expresses this is ifthey can understand RWA real
world assets they'll start tounderstand the infrastructural
chain.
So I think the biggest thingthey get wrong is what the media
(38:43):
is feeding them is that it'sall just a big Ponzi scheme and
that it's, you know, this casino, and that will start to come
out when things start to getrevealed that it's a new
financial system.
So RWA real world assets iswhat people should be looking at
.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I think you also got some other things you're
involved in.
Talk to me about some of theother business initiatives.
I saw the refined man side ofthings, like the message you put
out on that.
Talk to me about otherinitiatives you're doing.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yeah, thank you for letting me share.
Yeah, so I have a huge.
All the businesses I do arethings that I use or I enjoy
doing, right.
So I've been going to Peruevery single year for the last
since 2019, twice a year, andevery time I come back I have
this infinity to really help menget their shit together.
And I've built aninfrastructure and a principal
model that I live by, based onmy decisions.
(39:31):
I make, how I make my decisionsfor my business, my family, my
ecosystem and so I createdrefineintegritycom to help men
have.
Number one a space, a safe space, to communicate.
Number two is to have aframework where they can start
to make better decisions, to beable to understand principles,
morals and ethics.
I basically created a place formen to have some sort of role
(39:53):
model in each other so we canhave those conversations, so we
can break bread together, so wecan rise together to become the
men we need for this country.
I really think men need to stepup right now.
I really feel that and I'm nottalking in the toxic masculinity
way and Lambos and all thewatches and stuff.
I'm talking about building afoundation For me.
It's God, family, protect myecosystem at all costs and I
(40:14):
stay out of other men's businessbecause I'm too busy working
online.
So it's creating thatenvironment for men, not only
create an environment, creatinga framework.
And then I go live weekly toreally help them understand the
principles that I use to buildmy businesses, to raise my kids
and to build this ecosystem.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
On behalf of the audience, I want to say thank
you for the vulnerability thatyou share.
I always go back to.
I think there's nothing moremanly than to actually be like
that.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I'm.
I just had a period where Ilisted a lot of stuff from
Jordan Peterson.
I actually saw him live not toolong ago.
That message to younger men whofeel lost, I think, is
important.
I think your story isinspiration from a lot of
perspectives For those who wantto get closer to the kind of
(41:03):
things that you're doing, thatare looking for a mentor and
seeing you as a potential optionfor that.
Where would you point them to?
Speaker 1 (41:09):
I think the best thing is CoachJV underscore Very
important.
There's so many imposteraccounts of mine.
It's CoachJV underscore.
I only have one account.
If you pull that.
If you just type in CoachJV onsocial media, all my social
media content will come up Alink in my bio you can connect
with me.
Or 3TWarriorAcademycom JustCoach JV and Google and all my
(41:31):
stuff will come up where you canconnect with me at different
platforms.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
I give you credit, man.
There's a lot of people thatwere watching this.
Among the bigger of the livestream, it looks like 11,000
plus have watched during this 42minute period.
Hopefully I'll have coach TV onagain.
Awesome, thank you.
Appreciate it, man.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Thank you, brother, appreciate you.
When I changed me, the environment changed.
So when I started, you know.
Now here I am broke, gettingoff of opiates being evicted
from my apartment.
I literally didn't have moneyto pay for my apartment.
It's completely empty becauseI've sold everything in my
apartment except my daughter's.
I don't think Trump really hasa choice to not be pro-crypto
with technology and advancementtoday.
(00:20):
I don't think he has a choice.
So it's kind of like it's afreight train going forward.
You're either going to get onit and go for the ride of your
life or you're going to get ranover by it, but everybody's
going to be on that train.
So I think he had to make adecision and they said it was
through his son.
The sons are like this is real,this is really happening Now.
What I don't agree with is likeI think what you're talking
about is how inaugurated thatjust wrecked a bunch of people,
(00:42):
right.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
My name is Michael Guy, a publisher of the Lead
Lager Forward.
Joining me here is Coach JV.
First time I'm meeting Coach JV, but he's got quite a big
following across Instagram, xand various platforms, so
introduce yourself to theaudience, to me as well.
Who are you, what's yourbackground, what have you done
throughout your career and whatdo you know?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Actually, absolutely man.
I'm Coach JV, so it's an honorto be here and it's been an
interesting year.
So I'm Coach JV, so I'm bestknown for my expertise in macro
and microeconomics and my greatawakening in my spiritual
journey from suicide on December18, 2006 to financial freedom
education and we teach peoplehow to break free from the just
(01:26):
overbroke system.
And so it's been a dynamicjourney.
And here we are, my friend.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So I don't know how deep you want to get into that
part of your life.
But since you mentioned, I feellike I have to ask the question
somewhat what exactly happened?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, so I attempted suicide.
I say committed suicide becauseJohn Vasquez died and JV was
born on December 18th 2006 dueto a massive opiate addiction.
So I did one of the mostselfish acts a human being could
do with a three-year-olddaughter in tow.
I was a father of athree-year-old daughter and I
attempted suicide and I woke up48 hours later to a phone call
(02:01):
from my mother.
I took a massive amount ofopiates because I thought there
was no way out and I woke upfrom a phone call from my mother
and I'd never heard my motherspeak like this, ever.
She didn't know that she wokeme up from an attempted suicide.
I kind of came into the fog andI answered the phone and she
said you need to read a bookcalled the Secret.
Your grandma read the book andshe had no idea what I had just
(02:21):
done.
And I read the book the Secret,and that's how this whole
journey started 18 years ago.
I had no real spiritualconnection.
I was never taught about God, Iwas never taught about Jesus
Christ, I was really nevertaught about principles, morals,
ethics.
I really didn't have a goodleadership structure within my
life for anybody to guide me.
And so that's how it startedLearning about.
Thoughts become thingsmanifestation, and that journey
(02:43):
has taken me on this wildjourney from completely losing
everything to, um, where I'm attoday.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
So so your mother obviously was a uh important
influence on your life.
If I can ask, what about yourfather?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, my father's a great human being man.
He he did everything he neededto do to provide a food, shelter
Um he, definitely we don't havethe greatest relationship, but
I say he's a great human beingcause he's been my greatest
teacher.
Um he, definitely we don't havethe greatest relationship, but
I say he's a great human beingbecause he's been my greatest
teacher.
Um, he did the best he couldwith the resources he had.
He's in my life.
He's been there for us.
He was a great provider, uh, butnever was someone who really,
um taught me anything about lifein general.
I mean didn't really teach meabout principles, morals, ethics
(03:19):
.
He was too busy providing, andthat's what he was taught to do
by his father.
He was never told you know, Ilove you by his father, so he
didn't have a really lovingrelationship with me, and so, as
a man, I really didn't havethat role model to look up to,
and so my mother was a big partof my life, and now I see my
father as one of the greatestteachers.
(03:40):
Because of him and because ofthose teachings, I have now
become an even better father.
Because of him and because ofthose teachings, I have now
become an even better father.
So I did the opposite of whatmy father did, and now having
two children is I embody loveinto them, encouragement,
teaching them principles, moralsand ethics.
So I think he is one of thegreatest fathers ever.
He's the greatest teacher.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
What do you think when hindsight led up to that,
that desire to end it Meaning?
Was it actual physicaldepression?
Was it despair because you feltyet like you had no prospects
for a better future?
What got you into the prank?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
yeah.
So I was a clean-cut guy.
I went in the military right athigh school and, um, I had uh,
went in the military, servedfive years in the coast Guard,
got out clean-cut guy.
I was a normal dude.
I would, you know, hang out,drink some beers with my buddies
, wasn't a big partier, didn'tdo any drugs, wasn't really a.
I was into fitness, mindset,working out, exercise and I got
(04:36):
a leg injury and I wasintroduced to opiates.
Now the problem is withintroducing opiates to somebody
who was very insecure, a brokenlittle boy that didn't have a
lot of leadership.
Some things happened to me as achild that shouldn't happen to
a child.
So I had a lot of childhoodtrauma that was really really
pushed down deep inside of me.
And when I took the opiate,I'll never forget the moment
when I took that opiate.
I was driving.
I remember the exact underpassI was driving.
(04:57):
It gave me this like superhumanconfidence If anybody's ever
felt that vibration and whypeople get addicted to it and
the injury no longer matteredanymore.
And so the next day I took itagain.
I got the same feeling.
The next day I took it againand then I kept complaining
about the injury.
Doctor prescribed me more wentfrom two pills to three pills,
to five pills, to seven pills,to a hundred pills and I became
(05:19):
a full-blown functional junkie.
And then I startedtransitioning, like a lot of
opiod addicts, from a clean cutguy to buying it on the black
market, experiencing with otherdrugs because I couldn't get
high anymore.
So I went from a clean cut guyrunning a very legit business to
a complete full-blown junkie by2026, burning through all the
money within our businesses,burning through the money within
my accounts, became a horribleperson, a horrible father, and
(05:44):
by the time I got to the pointwhere everything was gone.
My money was gone.
I was on December 18th 2006 whenI attempted the suicide.
I went to Walmart to buy aChristmas presents for my
daughter, swiped my first.
Now, about six months earlier,I had about 60 grand in my bank
account, so you can imagine howmuch money I spent on drugs.
I swiped, my debit carddeclined, swiped my credit card
(06:04):
declined.
I didn't even realize I wasbroke.
I didn't even realize thebusiness had run into the ground
and I went over to a bank ofAmerica at that time and the
banker sitting across me I'dnever seen an overdraft account
in my life and he turned ittowards me and all I saw was red
, and I started to hear thisringing in my ears and I was
deep in the drugs at that point.
I mean, if anybody's beenaddicted to opiates at that
level, it was a very, very, very, very dark place.
(06:27):
I would wake up every morningand my main goal was to get more
opiates, to get more drugs, andI was injecting it into my
veins as well.
I was using an opiate that Icould inject into my veins and
it was horrible.
And so at that moment I knewthe gig was up, my money was
gone, I had ran my business intothe ground, I couldn't even
take care of my daughter, I wasjust weeks away from being
(06:48):
evicted from my apartment, andall I could hear was this voice
inside of my head that endedit's over.
And it was that same voice that, when I was a little boy that
had no self-confidence, that wastold that he wasn't worth it,
it wasn't enough.
And I realized that line I'dhit, that line that had been
drawn for me, and I decided togo to my office and just load up
(07:10):
a massive amount of opiates andI didn't see a way out.
I couldn't see the light.
I couldn't see the way out.
I had no spiritual connection.
I had no connection to God orJesus Christ and, ironically,
I'd never been taught about Godor Jesus Christ.
Christmas was Easter, santaClaus and Easter was the Easter
bunny.
Right when I was a kid, growingup, and I'd never been taught
how to pray.
But for some reason, I kneltdown in that moment and I prayed
(07:31):
for the first time in my lifeand I said dear father, god, and
I did this prayer to this thingor whatever it is out there,
and I truly believe that thatprayer is what got me through it
and I woke up 48 hours laterand that's how it all
transmitted Now.
That journey was brutal, fromrecovering from the opiates and
to where I'm at today, but herewe are.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Talk about the spiritual connection.
By the way, I appreciate thevulnerability.
I always make it a point thatto develop a relationship, any
kind of relationship, whetherit's a business relationship,
personal relationship, somebodyhas to be willing to be
vulnerable, right and to takethe first step to have that
relationship.
But as far as relationships go,relationship with God, what
(08:16):
about support system Meaning?
I'm sure there were friendsthat were seeing what was going
on, trying to intervene.
I mean, talk me through that alittle bit.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
seeing what was going on, trying to intervene?
I mean, talk me through that alittle bit.
Yeah, I think I was prettysiloed because of the
environment that I created formyself.
No fault of anybody, I hadbroken all the positive
relationships I had in my life.
I had good people in my lifewhen I started out the journey
and, because of my environmentthat I created, the people
around me were all addicted aswell, and so they were doing the
best they can to survive and Iwas doing the best I could to
survive.
(08:44):
But I had broken all therelationships that were had
added any value to my life, thatwere somewhat high frequency,
uh, people that I could lean on,right, and it wasn't that they
abandoned me, I abandoned myself.
And so I thought, within myparadigm, I'm sure I could have
turned any of those people.
And my mom, you know she admitstoday that she knew that
something was wrong and, um, youknow, she, she, she had moments
(09:05):
where she was trying to help mewith it, but I was too far gone
, but it was.
It was again.
You're a product of yourenvironment.
Now, interesting enough, whichis you brought that up is, uh,
how, how?
Life cycles, right.
So I got on opiates because ofthe leg injury.
Ironically, in 2023, just twoyears ago, I had a vicious quad
tear where I ripped the quad offthe base of the knee and a
(09:26):
horrible injury, and I gotprescribed opiates, which is
wild to be in that type ofparadigm.
Here I am now succeeding,financially free, spiritually
free, running all thesecompanies, and I get presented
the same situation, the sameparadigm.
The difference was myenvironment.
I have amazing, amazing,amazing human beings around me
(09:46):
that supported me through thejourney.
For example, when I gotprescribed the opiate with that
red cap, I immediately reachedout to somebody very close to me
and said I'm scared, like I donot want to fall back into this
paradigm again.
I need your support.
And that person said to me theysaid what are?
What is the opiate used for?
I said for pain.
And they said what are you inthe most pain?
I said right before I go tosleep.
They said take it before you goto sleep.
So I had the right environmentaround me, I had the right
(10:06):
support system.
I had people that would call meon my stuff.
So it was all environmental.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I was in the wrong environment around the wrong
people and because I created thesafety and community, and
that's an outsider listening tothis fascinating to think
through, because you go throughthis traumatic experience two
days later.
Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong,but I guess the sense that
(10:37):
people that attempt suicide,other people, start to look at
them differently if they areaware of that, right, so you
want to create a positiveenvironment, you want to have
the right people around you, butmaybe the right people are
almost afraid to be around you,given how fresh a lot of things
were.
(10:57):
So how did you after, afterthat, find the right crew?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
yeah, great question, phenomenal question.
So it's all micro to the macro.
I thought it was macro to themicro.
I thought I had to change theenvironment to change me.
When I changed me, theenvironment changed.
So when I started, you know.
Now here am broke, getting offof opiates, being evicted from
my apartment.
I literally didn't have moneyto pay for my apartment.
(11:25):
It's completely empty becauseI've sold everything in my
apartment except my daughter's,except my daughter's room.
That's the only thing I didn'tsell.
I got rid of everything fordrugs.
So here I am in an emptyapartment now.
I have nobody around me, butall I had was myself.
And I started to really embodythe book the Secret.
I'm like, I am powerful, I amstrong, I am worthy, I am
(11:46):
abundant.
That I am.
And I started to really embodythis within myself and I started
to feel this vibrational freak.
I didn't know that's what itwas back then I started to feel
a change within myself and Iremember this to the T is I went
, walked outside about two weekslater.
I mean, there was two weeks ofjust me puking and throwing up
and working to get off theopiates and I slowly
transitioned off.
I remember walking outside and,for the first time ever, ever,
(12:07):
I saw a flower.
I'm like that's a pretty flower.
And I'm like, well, did I justsay that was a pretty flower?
And I'm like I started torecognize the things around me.
I had nothing left.
There was nothing left, so allI could recognize was the things
that were in my present reality.
I couldn't pay my rent, Icouldn't even go out to eat, I
couldn't do anything other thanwalk, and so I'd walk, and
there's a place called VellistaLakes where I used to live,
right by these apartments, and Iwould sit in that grass and I
(12:29):
would manifest and I would lookat that.
And what I noticed is when Ichanged, when I changed, the
people showed up.
I stopped looking for thepeople.
So when I changed internally,the environment would show up
and then I was like, okay,there's something to this, right
.
Then, all of a sudden, I get acall from somebody saying, hey,
(12:50):
we have an offer for you or Iwant you to apply for this job.
I apply for this job, whichgets me into the bank.
And then I started to see thatit was a direct reflection from
internally, it was a mere effect.
So the actual drug addict andthe environment that I created
was created by me and no oneelse.
When I took full responsibilityfor that and I said you created
every single thing you created.
Being a bad father, you createdbecoming an opiate addict.
You created this environment.
(13:11):
Since you created that, you cancreate a new environment.
So it wasn't that I looked forsomething externally.
I fixed the internal and theexternal found me, and that's
the whole journey I've been onfor the 18 years.
So the reality that I'mexperiencing now.
I just posted this today onTwitter.
I said nobody's hating on you.
Nobody's hating on you.
It's a reflection of you.
(13:31):
That's all it is.
I'm speaking to the wholeaudience here.
Nobody's hating on you, it's areflection of you.
If you're viscerally respondingto it, that means there's truth
in it.
So I no longer see the haters.
When I see hate, if there's avisceral response, it's the
truth and what I need to work onin myself.
It's coming from me.
So when I started to love myselfthe broken little boy and I
started to heal the brokenlittle boy inside, because I had
(13:53):
to, I now have a 20-year-olddaughter.
She's a beautiful, amazinghuman being.
You know she's.
She went through this wholejourney with me.
I have a nine year old son nowthat it's my responsibility for
these two children to heal thebroken little boy inside.
There's not an outside, ineffect.
So through that internaljourney I have now manifested
the reality around me, which ispositive.
High frequency love, uh uh, youknow building conversations
(14:16):
high, you know all that type ofstuff.
So it was internal to external.
It wasn't changing the externalto the internal.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
It's a very hard thing to look inward.
I mean, in general, it's veryhard.
You have to go deep.
You have to understand thesubconscious and why.
We're the sum total of all thesuccesses and failures, of not
just how we grew up, but also ofour parents, right, and those
that are around us.
A lot of people hearing thiswould say, well, you know why
(14:50):
not just go for, you know,talking to a psychologist or
psychiatrist and sort of outsidehelp?
Because it doesn't sound to me,unless I'm wrong, like you did,
that this was you doing ityourself, right, kind of digging
deep.
Yeah't sound to me, unless I'mwrong, like you did, that this
was you doing it yourself, right, kind of digging deep.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah, now, I had people in my life.
Yeah, there was.
There was a gentleman named JoeItalic that I give honor and
grace to all the time and praiseto.
There was a gentleman named JoeItalic.
That was a pivotal part of mylife, that gave me some tools
and resources that I could helpexternally, but what I meant by
that is there's no one externallike a psychologist.
Counselors are all great I mean, these are all things, are all
resources but for example um, Italk openly about this I go to
(15:25):
Peru every single year and I doplant medicines and I don't
encourage people do that,because what they do is they go
do plant medicines and all themedicine does is expose you to
who you are and what you need towork on.
It doesn't heal you, right?
The psychologist isn't healingyou.
The counselor isn't healing you.
The medicine isn't healing you.
You know, all it's doing isrevealing you, and so once the
mentor, the psychologist, theplant medicine, whatever it is
(15:46):
reveals you, it's there for usto heal and unless we go through
that healing process, our soulis just going to keep cycling.
You see it in the and that'swhy I got so good at the crypto
markets and macroeconomics,because it's all just one big
micro to macro cycle.
That's all we're experiencing.
And so it wasn't that theoutside sources are not needed.
They're definitely needed.
Mentors are needed, guides areneeded, people are needed God
(16:09):
for me and Jesus Christ isneeded.
That's where I get all my gloryfrom, not my glory I give all
the glory to, but they're onlyallowing us an opportunity to
see what we need to heal inourselves.
And if we don't do the work,we're like the guy sitting on
the mat waiting for the fountainwhere Jesus went up to him and
said do you want to be healed?
Right, and he said pick up yourmat and walk.
And I really feel that's whatsociety is struggling with right
(16:30):
now is we're waiting for asavior, waiting for Trump to.
We waited for Trump to comeback, and the left is going to
wait for the next president tocome in, and it's a constant
waiting when it's all internal.
So people can just reveal whatyou need to heal, but if you're
not willing to heal, you'regoing to repeat the cycle.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
So I've been very public on my social feed about
my physical health journey Lost100 pounds in the span of a year
fasting, started going to thegym two to three hours every
single day and you know to psychmyself up when I wake up at 4
am.
I've got YouTube videos ofmotivational.
You know speakers and peoplelike Rick Roll, david Goggins,
(17:10):
you know types like that, jockoright, and there's a great line,
something along the lines ofthe boy becomes the man when the
boy realizes nobody's going tosave him.
Right, and I think there's alot of truth to that.
Now you mentioned micro tomacro.
I myself very much believe this.
(17:31):
I think micro helps you survive.
I think macro helps you thrive.
If the macro is against you,the best you can do is just try
to survive through it, becauseyou need that tailwind really to
really kind of blow up and, Ithink, be super successful.
I mean, maybe there's some rarecases where that's not the case
, but you talk about thesedifferent businesses.
So take me through what exactlyhappens.
(17:54):
So you go through this journey,you're improving, you're
feeling stronger, you'rebecoming a new person.
How do you go from that toentrepreneur?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, man, that was a journey, so I'll try to
condense it in a Reader's Digestversion as much as I can.
So I ended up getting thatgentleman who basically got me
on track and helped me, joeItalic.
He called me and said hey, wegot a job for you.
At this point I was willing todo anything just to get income,
to be able to get my daughter inthe right place, in the right
paradigm, and so I ended upgetting an offer to go to a bank
(18:25):
and to interview for a position.
I thought it was like a janitoror something.
I mean I was going frompersonal trainer business type
thing.
It didn't make any sense.
So I went to Goodwill, bought asuit for 50 cents, got the suit
, went to the interview and Iwas sitting across from a lady
named Lori Schmidt I alwayshonor her as well and I was
interviewing for a position andI really I was using all my
manifestation techniques, Iworked on my energy and all that
stuff and I went through theinterview.
(18:46):
I can't remember what was said,but I do remember when she left
she said we'll give you a callif we're interested in sharing a
position with you.
This is really important to thestory.
She called me about 15 minuteslater.
I was in the car and she saidhey, listen, we want to offer
you a job and I'm like awesome,and I'm thinking like a janitor
or something.
She's like we want to offer youa banker position.
I was like a banker and I'mlike what she's like, we can
(19:07):
train you.
We liked your energy.
I thought and that didn't hitme until are very close I was
like mom, I just got a job.
She's like, as what I said, abanker.
She goes.
You can't do math and I said Iknow you have dyslexia.
I said I know, but they hiredme and they can train me.
(19:33):
And so I started this journey asa banker.
I implemented all the like youtalked about Les Brown, bob
Proctor.
So I was following all thesethings.
I was doing all the techniques,think and Grow Rich Secrets of
the Millionaire Mind.
I was doing all this stuff.
I would show up beforeeverybody, leave after everybody
, and I became the mostdisciplined, consistent person I
have ever met in my life and itwas me against me.
(19:54):
And so I moved up very quicklyin the bank, from banker to
branch manager, to the districtmanager, to VP, to running a
large part of the bank and Iwent to CBA Executive Banking
School and that's where myspiritual awakening started.
I went to South Carolina.
I was a banker in Arizona,ended up going to South Carolina
, to Greenville FurmanUniversity, which is in
Greenville, south Carolina.
We didn't go to Furman, but theexecutives would converge on
(20:16):
this campus every summer.
We would use our campus to goto CBA executive banking school,
which we learned how to scalebanks and most beautiful place
I've ever been in my life.
Oh, there was a thing that Inoticed and I was going through
a spiritual awakening in them.
And there's all these bankersfrom all over the world and
they're making a quarter of amillion to a million.
Some are going to be CFOs CEOsand they all seemed miserable.
(20:36):
I mean, they're all shootingfor the next position, the next
car.
And I met this gardener.
The garden is beautiful there Imean unbelievable.
And there's this guy gardeningand he was just so attentive to
the garden and I was talking tohim like man, this garden is so
beautiful, and he was like wejust started talking and
chatting and he's like what doyou do?
And I'm like I want to be aregional president, president,
want to do this.
He's like oh, so that makes youhappy?
And I said I don't know, hegoes.
(20:58):
What makes you happy?
And I couldn't answer thequestion.
I said what makes you happy?
He goes.
I have everything I need.
I got my garden.
I go home, I got my wife, I gotmy family, I got God, I got
church, I got my grandkids.
And I was like what is happiness, man?
And so I didn't feel right tome and I went on this crazy
journey of spiritual awakeningand trying to understand what
(21:22):
this is Like.
What is all of this?
Because now I'm a banker, a VP,I got the BMW, I got the big
house, I got the suits, and Istill was miserable.
I was back in the sameaddiction.
It was like the stuff Look atme, look at me, dad, I've made
it.
And I finally realized thatthis is thing, this line that's
being drawn, that that we're allchasing, that doesn't exist.
And so when I left, um, I did avideo very early in my career.
(21:44):
Nothing worked out.
I left.
I created a podcast, I createda book, I launched my first
program, where we built it forsix months.
I launched my first program inJanuary 2018 and I launched it
on January 1st and nobody signedup, launched it again.
It completely failed.
Launched it again completelyfailed.
And until we went through thisprocess and I did a video early
(22:06):
in 2018 that said I want tobecome a warrior in a modern day
society and I always say becareful what you ask for.
God gave me what I asked for.
He stripped me down to nothingagain, took away all my money,
finally got an investor, got thebusiness back up and then in
2020, they took everything fromus.
They came and shut our businessdown.
I lost everything, everything.
(22:28):
The only thing I didn't touchwas my crypto.
So I packed my kids up.
Now here I am for the secondtime going through this process.
Imagine my father's face when Iopened that door.
I knocked on their door, Ipacked my kids up, moved into
their thousand square foot homeand I said just give me a little
bit of time.
And in that moment, I drew aline in the sand.
I became more committed to thepain of change and staying the
same, and I completely devotedmy life to rewiring my brain, to
understanding how money movesthrough the system, how energy
(22:50):
works, how these cycles work,and I devoted my life to it.
And from 2020 to 2025, where wesit currently.
We've developed six companiesin information technology,
attention, education andfinancial services.
What we basically did iseverything I was learning and
everything we were using.
We decided to build and getequity in and start to build
(23:11):
pathways for people to buildfinancial literacy, financial
education and to help them buildcareers and things they love to
do.
And so that's my passion now isI spend all my time doing things
that I love and sharing thatinformation with other people,
and so what I do is I go forward, I build safety and I come back
and teach, and that's my wholelife, that's my whole journey,
and I don't work a day in mylife because I get to be with
(23:32):
cool people.
Every single day, I get toembody who I truly am.
And so, you know, now we havesix companies.
Um, uh, you know we'refinancially free in the aspect
of you know, we know we don'ttrade time for money anymore.
We do what we want.
I guess that's you know.
People say passive income, butwhat we trade time for is things
we'd love to do.
So, therefore, we no longerwork for money anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
You mentioned crypto a few times.
First of all, how did you evenget turned to crypto and talk to
me through sort of how you evenwent about analyzing what to
put fiat into walked into ourfacility so we have a warrior
(24:17):
academy over here and he saidhave you ever heard of XRP?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
And it's so interesting.
You said Phoenix rising fromthe ashes on your necklace and
the first thing I saw was aPhoenix rising from the ashes.
Xrp is a currency that Trumpjust announced is going to be
part of the crypto strategicreserve.
So I pulled it up and it showeda Phoenix rising from the ashes
.
It was the essence of my storythe Phoenix rising from the
ashes.
And then I started to go deeperinto it.
Having my banking knowledge, Iknow how to scale banks from the
(24:39):
ground up and the first thing Iasked myself is why aren't
banks using this?
And I went deeper into researchand then I pulled up their
patent Ripple Bank of America'spatent.
Ripple is in their patent.
Then I started to connect thedots.
There's somethinginfrastructural happening here
and I stopped looking at theseas get rich quick and I started
(25:01):
looking at the infrastructuralchange in a financial system.
Financial systems change aboutevery hundred years and I
started to look at our old,antiquated, broken system, our
DOS system.
They have an old, archaic SWIFTsystem.
Technology is starting to moveat the speed of light, so I
started to look atinfrastructure.
I started to look at the newthing like Bitcoin as a store of
value, like gold.
So I started to look at these asinfrastructure, payment tokens
and how the new financial systemwas going to change, and then
we built a very fundamentalportfolio in 2020.
(25:24):
And then we started to talkabout it on socials and we got
ridiculed, we got mocked andthen, as this Sunday, just
recently, the ones we've beentalking about specifically XRP,
bitcoin, solana, ethereum, adaare all some of the top five in
our portfolio and they are nowjust announced as a new part of
our financial system within thecrypto strategic reserve.
(25:44):
So it was more about notgetting rich quick.
It was about understanding theinfrastructural change and
really standing on that truth,even though everybody was
telling us to run from it, andso we stuck on that, based on
our knowledge and also studyinghistory.
So if you study Ray Dalio,going back 500 years of rise and
falls of empires, our countryis going through a massive shift
(26:04):
, and so that's how we startedin it and we've stuck to it.
But also we're very diversifiedoutside of crypto to lessen the
volatility.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Let's talk about that diversification, because it's
been a weird five yearsVolatility, a lot of things
bonds were supposed to be notvolatile been very volatile,
except for junk debt, which Ithink are about to get super
volatile, but then again I'vebeen wrong on that.
Um.
So what else do you?
Do you diversify crypto against?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
yeah, so I use the risk pyramid.
So you know, if you look at arisk pyramid as you go up the
left side, you got high risk,high return.
Crypto is a shining star itthis.
It's like it's like you're in ayou know, in a ocean bobbing
around Right.
So what I do is I pull profitsfrom high risk, high return.
When it goes up with an exitplan Bitcoin to hold a hundred
percent, I pull it down the riskpyramid.
(26:49):
I'm huge on cash value lifeinsurance.
So we have me and my partnerhave 11 policies combined.
We bank on ourselves, so we useBitcoin as a bank and we use
insurance as a bank.
So from there, from insurance,cash value, life insurance to
protect, compound and growsilver real estate we have
businesses in six differentareas.
We actually diversified inbusiness too to get through this
volatility, and so when onebusiness is down, the other
(27:11):
business is up, and then I usedividend ETF stocks for cashflow
.
But I'm always de-risking backinto Bitcoin and XRP because I'm
moving from US.
Dollar is designed by theFederal Reserve to be an
inflationary asset, so everyyear our dollar becomes less
valuable.
So what I do is I'm transmutingmy cash into deflationary
things like Bitcoin and XRP.
(27:31):
So I pull it down the riskpyramid to pull out that
volatility.
So when it's going down, I buy,when it's going up, I pull, and
so, instead of my portfoliolooking like down the risk
pyramid to pull out thatvolatility, so when it's going
down I buy, when it's going up Ipull and I.
So, instead of my portfoliolooking like this, it looks more
like this so I'm not I'mdefinitely not an anti crypto
guy.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I'm just hesitant around certain narratives, right
?
I myself have argued that, forexample, bitcoin makes sense to
have in a portfolio, because thereal definition of the market
is all investable assets, justweighting them in different ways
, right, things that don'tdepreciate.
You're obviously a verywell-spoken thought individual,
(28:07):
a thought leader.
You come across from a verypositive perspective.
Is a criticism which I think issomewhat justified, that the
crypto community at large tendsto be overtly and overly
abrasive and maybe not, as youknow, positive and very much
sort of um chest pumping interms of performance, uh, rather
(28:33):
than seeing this as atechnology that can better
society.
Am I off on that?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
No, you're not.
That's a clear, 100%, mediamanipulated perception that they
want.
You nailed it.
No, you 100% nailed it becausethat's what the media feeds us.
It's indoctrination.
They feed you that it's a bunchof chess pumping meme coin
pumping, and that's actually nottrue.
Pumping meme coin pumping, andthat's actually not true.
(29:00):
There's a huge, huge amount ofreal world fundamental investors
, billionaires, investing inbitcoin and people are starting
to see too.
Sunday was a huge announcement.
Trump announced that you knowthe five top cryptos that are
going to be in the cryptostrategic reserve.
You know there's massive assetmanagers getting involved.
And so that you you nailed itbecause that is the perception
and that was on purpose.
It was to get people to thinkit's fraudulent, to get people
to think that it's just memecoin.
(29:23):
It's casinos, and they got usto look this way.
Blackrock is the number twoholder in Bitcoin in the world.
Microstrategies is number three.
Blackrock is the top threeholder in MicroStrategies.
You got Grayscale in Americathe top four holders in Bitcoin.
So the very thing that the mediaindoctrinated us to believe
that it's this casino.
Yes, there is a casino part ofit and that is very, very, very,
(29:44):
very nasty and gross and peopleget wrecked, but there's a
whole other part of it of realworld, fundamental people.
The XRP community is abeautiful community.
I think the Bitcoin communityhas a lot of great people within
it as well.
But I think what the media doesit works to push us through a
narrative, to make us think acertain thing, as the asset
managers are getting heavilyinvolved in it.
So what you're going to see2025 to 2030 is your banks.
(30:07):
Now I guarantee you're going tosee commercials say, hey,
custody your crypto.
Here.
It's all a narrative to getpeople.
Of course, anything that'sspeculative.
You have to be very, verycareful.
That's why we have an exit plan.
But no, your perception iscorrect, because that's what
we've been fed, so that we don'tget involved in the new system.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I'm curious to hear your take on Trump being the in
quote crypto president.
Last 48, 72 hours have beenkind of crazy.
Hours have been kind of crazy.
Um, and I myself, um, havecriticized pretty loudly some of
(30:43):
the posts that I'm seeing, um,and what seems like insider
information, with some of thesetrades that have gone on with
leverage before the summit andafterwards and all this um, you
think, with hindsight, trump wasgoing to be a positive or
negative for the industry?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
In hindsight, when he came into presidency, we went
from an anti-crypto and thisisn't politics we went from
anti-crypto White House to afully pro-crypto White House,
but we had to take ourselves alittle bit further back.
This is why we study historyand stay non-emotional.
So seven years ago, trump saidthat we're going to be on an
even playing field monetarilybefore we know it.
(31:18):
Right, that was when he was inhis old presidency.
So when he was interviewed inthe past around cryptocurrency,
he said he's a dollar guy.
He's not really pro-crypto,right?
Everybody flipped In 2023,there was a narrative that
(31:51):
flipped.
Blackrock went from Bitcoin isused for money laundering to
Larry Fink said we made amistake, it's a flight to
quality.
He didn't use the word make amistake.
We were wrong about this, it'sa flight to quality.
Then, president, the Bitcoinpresident, bitcoin strategic
reserve he builds a wholepro-crypto cabinet and we find
out they have World LibertyFinancial, which is World
Liberty Financial I think I'msaying that correctly which him
and his sons have their own DeFiplatform.
It's all narrative based.
Everything is narrative based,but there's a whole deeper part
(32:13):
to this, though.
Whether Trump is pro-crypto ornot pro-crypto, the new system
cannot operate withoutblockchain.
It can't.
It doesn't matter if Trump waspro-crypto or Biden was
anti-crypto.
Ai technology coming in and thefaster payments and money.
So messaging is moving at thespeed of light.
Ai is moving at the speed oflight.
(32:33):
Now money has to move at thespeed of light.
No-transcript.
(33:02):
Bitcoin was created by SatoshiNakamoto when Brazil, russia,
india, china, south Africaworked to de-dollarize right
after one of the mostembarrassing financial collapses
in America and then, all of asudden, bitcoin which was used
for money laundering it was theworst thing ever stay away from
it is now going to save theAmerican monetary system and
Bitcoin.
The top four holders are allAmerican.
So there's something that we'renot seeing here and I don't
(33:26):
have the answer to that.
But I do know what deflationarylooks like and inflationary
environments look like, and I amseeing billionaires and big
asset managers start to movetheir money.
So I don't think Trump reallyhas a choice to not be
pro-crypto with technology andadvancement in AI.
I don't think he has a choice.
So it's kind of like it's afreight train going forward.
You're either going to get onit and go for the ride of your
life or you're going to get ranover by it, but everybody's
(33:46):
going to be on that train.
So I think he had to make adecision and they said it was
through his son.
The sons are really happeningNow.
What I don't agree with is, like, I think what you're talking
about is how they pumped a memecoin right before he was
inaugurated.
That just wrecked a bunch ofpeople, right?
But are these all narratives?
Because what happened is themarket's been sideways for five
(34:07):
weeks and then, all of a sudden,it didn't make sense for it to
be dropping like that.
We're in a bull run, but then,all of a sudden, he announces on
Sunday that the top those topfive cryptos and it just pumps
like crazy.
So what we're seeing is massivemarket manipulation, but the
system has always been that way,right?
Think about that.
They used to clip our coins.
Right Back in the days, wayback in history, they would clip
the coins.
There's always somethinghappening monetarily, where the
(34:29):
1% and the elites are alwaystrying to stay in power with
money, and so there's just achange in the system, and I
don't think either Biden orTrump had a choice, but I think
Trump realized that hey, if Irun on this pro-crypto, it's
going to bode very well for me,and because it's the
infrastructural change.
Like Swift is switching tofaster payments, banks are
switching to Ripple XRP.
(34:49):
Ripple Ripple, specifically, isin Bank of America's patent.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
The CEO says as soon as we get regulatory, regulatory
clarity, we're going all in onfaster payments, so I don't
think he has a choice to not bepro crypto.
Yeah, and it's gonna be.
I mean, it's funny, right.
I mean I think um harris alsogot on board because they
realized they need to get theyounger vote, and the younger
vote, you know, likes to votewith their wallet, and sometimes
it's the digital wallet, right.
So I think that makes um sense,sense, some sense.
I, I agree with you, the um,and I put a post out that went
(35:19):
viral.
I said we're at the point wherethe entire United States is
drug pulling us.
I worry about the fabric ofsociety, though, from that
standpoint.
So I'm a big believer inderegulation, I'm a big believer
in decentralization, but it'sgoing to be messy to get to a
place where the market, I think,no longer rewards the silliness
(35:42):
that we're still seeing.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Absolutely, absolutely.
Yeah, you nailed it it's goingto be an ugly process.
Man, I've been telling peoplethat's what I hope to be on our
channel, you'll see.
I'm always talking about takingthe middle ground, being stoic,
being calm, being non-emotional, and I'm not telling people you
should get into crypto.
I'm telling people you shouldask yourself why you're
investing in something, not whatyou're invested in, because
it's going to be an ugly, nastyprocess.
(36:04):
First of all, we have all thisdisclosure happening, right,
which is going to shock peopleat a visceral level internally,
right.
Then we have this new systemcoming in, this new financial
system, right, deregulation,right, and it's almost like
unfettered.
It's like let's go, everybodygo after it, public and private
sector coming together.
But all we ever see is that wesee the shift to one side and we
(36:25):
see the shift to the other, andthe best thing for people to do
is to take the middle ground toreally ask themselves, like
what do I know about money?
What I know about money is thefiat system is broken.
I know that my dollar that'ssitting in my bank account right
now is worth about 3%purchasing power since the feds
created the dollar in 1913, orsorry, not the dollar, so the
feds federal reserve was createdin 1913, the dollars collapsed
(36:46):
97%.
So I know that I have thisdollar that has 3% purchasing
power, which is the mostpowerful monetary system in the
world, which is crazy, right.
So I'm like, okay, if it has 3%purchasing power and I'm being
paid in someone else's debtbecause there's no money in the
system, I need to transmute thatmoney into either real estate,
gold, silver, and now I foundthis new asset Bitcoin, xrp that
(37:08):
are deflationary, and that'swhat we're going to start to see
.
But you're right, it's going tobe an ugly process.
It's going to be an absoluteugly process.
I think we'll probably see somehyperinflation, because if
they're going to lower interestrates and they're going to turn
on quantitative easing again,what they're going to do is
they're going to buy bitcoin andxrp and things like that, and
that's going to deflate thedollar even more, and then we're
going to have to go into somehyper hyperinflation.
(37:29):
The system is going to have tocrash for a new system to come
in, in my opinion.
So what?
Speaker 2 (37:33):
do you think people get um most wrong about crypto?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
uh, that it's, it's used from I mean, it's a people.
The biggest thing I hear allthe time is it's used for money
launder, it's used for this.
So is the dollar.
It's a tool, right.
It's like I hear that all thetime like it's used for this,
it's used for that.
They're literally parrotingwhat they hear.
The dollar is used for allthese things and I think what
people get wrong is notunderstanding what the tool is.
Right.
It's a tool, right.
(37:59):
Right, I can use this phone totrade cryptocurrency.
I can use it to read the Bible.
I can also use it to do veryunethical things.
Right, it's a tool.
It's the user of the tool.
It's understanding what thetool and the mechanism is.
I think what people get wrong atcrypto that it's this, that the
whole crypto market as a wholeis just this casino.
Right, and it gets that bad rapbecause there is a lot of
(38:23):
unethical things happening incryptocurrency the meme coins,
the pump and dumps, that no realworld solver utility and I
think what they get wrong isbecause of the public.
The media expresses this is ifthey can understand RWA real
world assets they'll start tounderstand the infrastructural
chain.
So I think the biggest thingthey get wrong is what the media
(38:43):
is feeding them is that it'sall just a big Ponzi scheme and
that it's, you know, this casino, and that will start to come
out when things start to getrevealed that it's a new
financial system.
So RWA real world assets iswhat people should be looking at
.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I think you also got some other things you're
involved in.
Talk to me about some of theother business initiatives.
I saw the refined man side ofthings, like the message you put
out on that.
Talk to me about otherinitiatives you're doing.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yeah, thank you for letting me share.
Yeah, so I have a huge.
All the businesses I do arethings that I use or I enjoy
doing, right.
So I've been going to Peruevery single year for the last
since 2019, twice a year, andevery time I come back I have
this infinity to really help menget their shit together.
And I've built aninfrastructure and a principal
model that I live by, based onmy decisions.
(39:31):
I make, how I make my decisionsfor my business, my family, my
ecosystem and so I createdrefineintegritycom to help men
have.
Number one a space, a safe space, to communicate.
Number two is to have aframework where they can start
to make better decisions, to beable to understand principles,
morals and ethics.
I basically created a place formen to have some sort of role
(39:53):
model in each other so we canhave those conversations, so we
can break bread together, so wecan rise together to become the
men we need for this country.
I really think men need to stepup right now.
I really feel that and I'm nottalking in the toxic masculinity
way and Lambos and all thewatches and stuff.
I'm talking about building afoundation For me.
It's God, family, protect myecosystem at all costs and I
(40:14):
stay out of other men's businessbecause I'm too busy working
online.
So it's creating thatenvironment for men, not only
create an environment, creatinga framework.
And then I go live weekly toreally help them understand the
principles that I use to buildmy businesses, to raise my kids
and to build this ecosystem.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
On behalf of the audience, I want to say thank
you for the vulnerability thatyou share.
I always go back to.
I think there's nothing moremanly than to actually be like
that.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I'm.
I just had a period where Ilisted a lot of stuff from
Jordan Peterson.
I actually saw him live not toolong ago.
That message to younger men whofeel lost, I think, is
important.
I think your story isinspiration from a lot of
perspectives For those who wantto get closer to the kind of
(41:03):
things that you're doing, thatare looking for a mentor and
seeing you as a potential optionfor that.
Where would you point them to?
Speaker 1 (41:09):
I think the best thing is CoachJV underscore Very
important.
There's so many imposteraccounts of mine.
It's CoachJV underscore.
I only have one account.
If you pull that.
If you just type in CoachJV onsocial media, all my social
media content will come up Alink in my bio you can connect
with me.
Or 3TWarriorAcademycom JustCoach JV and Google and all my
(41:31):
stuff will come up where you canconnect with me at different
platforms.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
I give you credit, man.
There's a lot of people thatwere watching this.
Among the bigger of the livestream, it looks like 11,000
plus have watched during this 42minute period.
Hopefully I'll have coach TV onagain.
Awesome, thank you.
Appreciate it, man.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Thank you, brother, appreciate you.
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