August 28, 2024 • 33 mins
What if your career trajectory was shaped by the power of relationships and personal responsibility? Matthew Gould, founder of More Co, uncovers his transformative journey from his first job to becoming a leading executive coach, mediator, and leadership facilitator. From landing his initial position right after a friend's resignation to discovering the telecom industry through a university friend's brother, Matt's career path is a testament to the pivotal role relationships play in professional success. He also opens up about his early misconceptions of success and how his definition of true leadership has evolved over time, highlighting how personal responsibility can unlock doors to incredible opportunities.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to the Leader Impact Podcast.
We are a community of leaderswith a network in over 350
cities around the world,dedicated to optimizing our
personal, professional andspiritual lives to have impact.
This show is where we have achance to listen and engage with
leaders who are living this out.
We love talking with leaders,so if you have any questions,
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at leaderimpact.
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website at leaderimpact.
com.
I'm your host, Lisa Peters, andour guest today is Matthew Gould
, founder of More Co.
He is an executive coach,mediator and passionate
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leadership facilitator.
Matt currently works with newand existing leaders at all
levels within organizations.
He believes that everyone is aleader, regardless of their role
, and that leadership beginswith leading yourself.
He also believes thatrelationships drive results and
experiences and it is up to usto take responsibility
accordingly.
He collaborates with companiesin a variety of industries,
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including tech, automotive,telecom, transportation,
construction and law enforcement.
His passion is leadership,communication, negotiation and
navigating towards shared goals.
Welcome to the show, Matt.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Thanks, Lisa, Wow Interesting you hear my bio and
think who?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
is that that's me?
There was so much more I couldhave read.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, there's a lot more to all of us, right, and I
was introduced to you justthrough Instagram and your great
Instagram there and listeningto an episode with Dave Klassen,
and I know there's a lot moreto Dave and I know there's a lot
more to you.
So, yeah, thanks forintroducing me and thanks for
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having me on the show.
There's a lot more to all of us.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, and I think I realized that after our first
conversation.
So I'm excited that you joinedus and excited to share.
So we always ask a little bitabout our professional stories
and how you got to where you aretoday.
So I'm wondering if you cangive us a couple of snapshots
that were pivotal turning pointsin that journey.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yes, In hindsight they're easy to say what the
pivotal moments were, and Iwould go back to my very first
what I would call my first realjob, and it was a relationship
that made it pivotal.
So I was living in the NorthShore in Vancouver, Canada, and
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I wanted the next job, I wantedthe upgraded job, and a friend
of mine had it and he wasturning pro for hockey.
And so he said to me I'm aboutto go and quit my job because
I've turned pro.
And I said well, I'm comingwith you and I'm going to make
it really easy for the employerto replace you with me.
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And so this is like a scene outof a movie.
He went into the office andresigned and I was hiding behind
the door and his director saidI can't believe.
You're like congratulations,you're going to play pro hockey,
how am I going to fulfill yourrole?
And I literally popped out andsaid I'm here to replace your
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role.
And there's a series of thosethroughout my career and
possibly to your listeners,their careers where it was the
relationship that opened a doorfor sure.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, it's interesting because in your bio
you talk about um.
We have to take uh ourexperiences and our results like
uh responsibility accordingly,like your life is your
responsibility yes take it, youknow, like I mean, we know
there's more to it, but we are,yeah, I just I love that.
You say that it's about theexperiences that you had and the
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stepping up.
So, yeah, so did your friendstay pro hockey?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
He stayed pro hockey and then has had a career from
there, and for me the next stagewas university.
So that was sort of a preuniversity relationship that
opened a door.
And then my roommate once againin hindsight, my roommate's
brother was working in telecomand he said to me would you like
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to quit university and come andsell cell phones and pagers
that will date me.
And I said, no, let me finishuniversity and if we're still in
relationship and there's stillan opportunity, I'll take you up
on your offer.
And so literally three yearslater, lisa, the offer was still
there, the cell phone industrywas taking off and it was
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through a relationship, therewas an introduction and it just
that's.
That's that's the ultimatestory.
and, as you introduced yourpodcast, this idea of personal
professional impact- yeah as Iwas listening to you, I was like
, yes, it starts with personal.
What is my personalcontribution and what do I want
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to create with others and inrelationship with others outside
of myself?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, I uh.
It was funny when you talkedabout cell phones and pagers and
you're like no, I got to goback to school and I wonder, at
that point did you think Iwonder if that'll really take
off?
I don't know how does that dateus?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
yeah, I didn't know and I was attracted to the glitz
and the glamour, oh and and thestuff right.
So I didn't have faith backthen and I was interested in, I
mean, suvs were just coming outand my roommate's brother's name
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was Mike and Mike had thisgreat SUV and he had a great
watch and he had a great pagerand he just looked cool Right.
And back then I was interestedin the surface and not the
substance and so I didn't reallyknow about the industry, lisa.
What I did know was I kind ofwanted to look cool, so why
don't I go and sell some phonesand see if that will work?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, well, you waited, you finished university,
so you got there.
Our next question we talk aboutprinciples of success and I'm
wondering if you have one thatyou can share, your best
principle?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
success.
A story that might illustratethat?
Yeah, it goes to.
There's many, and yourlisteners would have theirs For
me.
Another Mike in my life is oneof my friends.
I met at university and I do alot of work with him and his
company.
He has 700 team members, 700employees, and he taught me this
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principle and it was to take100% responsibility for your 50%
in the relationship.
So you and I, you and I havemet, we have a quick
relationship.
Professionally speaking, wedon't really know each other and
it is up to me to take 100%responsibility for my half of
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what goes on and to care for thewhole thing.
So it's never about.
The principle that I havelearned to grow into is to
eradicate any blame.
You and I had a time zoneunderstanding and, rather than
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blame you or blame myself, likeblame to me is a divisive,
diminishing characteristic.
I don't think it's very lovingand it doesn't solve anything.
I find it in my life.
It causes more issues and so ifI can take 100% responsibility
for my interpretation of yourtext message, which is really
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our text exchange and thenadjust accordingly like, what's
our goal together?
Our goal together is to impactleaders around the world who get
to listen to your podcast.
That's more important than ourunderstanding of time zones.
So yeah, 100% ownership of my50% and caring for us, caring
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for the relationship.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Wow, I loved how you used our example this morning.
So, anyone listening, we had atime zone issue, so we're an
hour earlier for me.
So I whipped upstairs, whippedup my hair and I was like I'm
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ready Five minutes.
But just listening to you, Iwas rushing and I was in my mind
Now listening to you talk abouta hundred percent
responsibility of 50% of therelationship.
Yeah it, when we got on thiscall, it was just we're here for
a bigger reason, so we're fiveminutes late, you know.
Yeah, so that's a greatprinciple of success and it was
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that client.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It was that client.
Many of us were impacted byCOVID and the global pandemic.
And it was that client whophoned me in March when COVID
was first becoming aninternational situation.
And Mike called and said I am,I am cutting your contract by
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50% effective.
And I said Is this up fornegotiation?
What's what's up fornegotiation is we could cut it
to zero as well, like, like.
We don't know how our businessis going to survive as retail is
shutting its doors.
And so, after hanging up, Icould have blamed him, I could
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have blamed COVID I didn't knowwhat it was at the time and
instead, the principle that Mikehad taught me, I put into
effect and it was okay, I'mgoing to take 100%
responsibility for my half ofthe situation.
And I decided to your point,lisa there was a bigger cause
here.
It wasn't about my income, itwas about why was I engaging
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with Mike and his leaders in thefirst place?
So I decided to continue todeliver leadership, coaching and
executive development at 50cents on the dollar.
I just decided that I cancontrol that and that's the
reason why I'm in thisprofession in the first place.
And six months later, I did thatfor six months, and six months
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later I got a phone call fromthe CEO and he said we have a
problem, matthew, and anytimeI'm in trouble they say my full
name.
And so I said what's theproblem?
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And he said well, you've beenworking at 100%, at 50 cents on
the dollar.
You, you to backdate an invoiceand I'm going to, I'm going to
top you back up.
Now it wasn't to a hundredpercent of the time.
That's just an example of Icould have blamed him.
It could, I could have caused afracture in the relationship.
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Instead, I said okay, what canI do?
And what's my mission?
What's my purpose?
What's my vision?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Good for you.
There was a.
There's a lot of good storieslike that from companies either.
You know, the CEO stepped awayfrom his wage to ensure that he
didn't have to let his staff go.
But when a CEO does that, thestaff may go.
You know what, when theleadership does it first, the
staff will look and go.
You know what.
I can do it too, so that wenton as well.
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So, but for you to be the firstperson to take that
responsibility because, yeah, itcould have been zero.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It could have been zero and I could have made it
zero, I could have made itconflictual, I could have been
divisive, and I just know wherethat serves.
Where I've done that in my life, I know where that's the result
of it, and the result of it isa broken relationship, and that
just deteriorates further, andwe're both, then victims of a
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choice that I made.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I'd rather make a new choice, which is to be in
relationships, healthy ones,healthy ones with boundaries.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Are you so just?
Are you always so?
Do you do you think thisquickly, cause sometimes my mind
goes to the like I'm angry Doyou ever do step back?
And I'm thinking of sometimeswe're running, we're running at
110%, something happens, and doI, you know?
Do you just?
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Are you like, are you alwaysthis confident Because I think,
oh, I might.
I got to step back out of thesituation before I blow up, blow
up, yeah, so 100%?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
no, I am not.
I am not.
And the very first responsethat I have in every situation
is WTF.
And that may mean one thing toyour listeners.
What it means to me is is whatto fight or what to flight.
So we're wired for safety,right.
Ourselves want to protectourselves.
So when that phone call came in, or any situation that happens
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if my Wi-Fi drops, my firstresponse my wife says I'm like a
duck.
I'm calm on the surface andunderneath my web feeder
paddling away.
So yeah, my very first response.
And, in a leadership positionand the responsibility that I've
held, the results will come in.
For example, or a customer willcancel their sale or we won't
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get a sale.
And my very first responseinternally is WTF.
And I'm wondering who to fault.
That's it can stand for who tofault, or and I have an
emotional reaction internallyI've learned to make that an
internal one.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
And then pause and realize this isn't about me,
this isn't a personal attack.
Even if it is, there'ssomething greater here.
What's my purpose, what's mymission, what's our purpose,
what's our mission, and thenselect accordingly, like, select
a behavior, select a response,knowing that my response will
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have an impact on the situation.
So, yeah, I, I've learned andtrained myself, actually used
instagram to train myself to, togo from being reactive to being
creative and reactive andcreative.
Exact same letters and aslightly different order.
So long winded answer to say Iget triggered.
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I get triggered like thatbecause I'm a human being and
have emotions, and usually myemotions are to say I get
triggered like that because I'ma human being and have emotions,
and usually my emotions are toprotect me and myself.
And I've learned to not actfrom there because we're called
to be in relationship.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Very good, I'm going to have to start wearing like
dark glasses so you don't see myeyes.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's okay though it's okay, You're human, right?
You probably had a reaction tome saying I'm here, I'm ready
for the podcast, and and and hownormal, right, and how normal
if you had said yes, and pleasewait an hour, and and I would
have been okay with it, Becausewhat's our bigger goal?
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What are we called to do?
Some of your listenerslisteners are Christian.
What are we called to do?
We're called to love.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
That's great.
So this leads right into my myquestion about failures and
mistakes, because I think we allknow we learn more from our
failures and mistakes than oursuccesses.
And I'm wondering I mean,you've talked a little bit about
what things happen, but can youtalk about a failure or mistake
where you learned more and youknow, like what did you learn
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from it?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
And, yeah, my greatest failure and it
continues to be less and lessand less and less is when I push
out others and think I can doit by myself.
So in my early telecom career,the industry was taking off and
it was successful.
As you know, many of us can'tput our devices away anymore.
It's probably more successfulthan the creators believed it
would be.
And I initially was promotedand my ego became a lot bigger
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than the door of my office andsomehow my head and my ego get
through my door every day.
What I learned was I was tryingto do it by myself and Lisa and
listeners.
I was demoted within about ninemonths because my team could
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not stand how great I thought Iwas.
They were like, no, no, we dothis together.
How come, you think?
All of a sudden I was promotedamongst my peers, and it's that
can be a hard transition forsome, and so I struggled, I was
demoted and I was exposed to.
Well, I chose to look at whatwent wrong.
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What, what was it?
And ego came up and there's agreat expression, or it's an
acronym, and wayne dyer uh, isthe person I heard it from, dr
wayne dyer, who's passed awayand he called it edging god out,
and for listeners who don'thave faith, it can also stand
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for edging greatness out.
So my failures, when I havethem and I have them often and
we I do learn from them.
I actually I don't love thefailure, I love the learning.
I also learn a lot from mysuccesses and I learned from
both.
But yeah, anytime I edge outothers, others or edge God out,
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it's just going to be a lessthan experience and a less than
result.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
And.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I'm not interested in , I'm no longer interested in
living a less than life and lessthan experiences.
I want, I want, I wantphenomenal ones.
Yeah, so I've learned to, I'vecontinued to learn the lesson of
not edging others out.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, where were you in your life when your ego got?
Because, like, where were youin the faith journey when you
realized your ego?
Like when?
Because I don't think and Iknow you know we'll get into
that, but where were you whenthe ego got too large?
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And you're, you know you got,let go.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, I was.
I was just in the, I was in thedark, I was atheist and had no
interest in faith.
It was.
It was for everyone else, orother people, not everyone else.
It was for those who wanted it,and I, I saw it as a, as a
weakness, because I can do it bymyself.
I don't, I don't need, I don'tneed something that I can't see.
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I don't, I don't need somethingthat I don't believe in.
And and so where was I?
Straight in the center of no,no faith whatsoever and really,
in hindsight, lonely, insecureand trying to figure it all out
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on my own.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, and you had a really nice SUV and a big watch.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Which led to next to no fulfillment.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, yeah Good.
So the next question is aboutthat, because at Leader Impact
we do want to grow personally,professionally and spiritually
for increasing impact.
You've talked about this, soI'm wondering if you'd be
willing to share an example ofhow the spiritual makes a
practical difference in yourlife as a leader.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
It makes all the difference in my, in my
experience and in my life.
It makes all the difference now, because if I'm in, if I'm in
an office, if I'm in a boardroom, it doesn't matter where.
Where I am, there's somethinggreater available to us.
So, you and me, right nowthere's just yes, yes, we're on
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a podcast, yes, we're usingtechnology, yes, we're trying to
serve your audience, andthere's just something more.
And when we're in you mentionedas a mediator you know beyond
what I want and beyond what theother person wants, if we're in
conflict, there's more.
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And so faith to me is aboutlove, and the word love can be
perceived as soft and squishy,and we don't have time for that.
We need to increase our revenue,we need to increase EBITDA, we
need to deliver profit yeah andmy from from experience and I'm
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conscious of saying my all thetime um, from from experience,
love generates abundance.
And so when I get outside ofself, when you get outside of
self, and we say, okay, what arewe here to serve?
We're here to serve somethinggreater.
So faith is.
I can pinpoint on a graph where, having faith and looking
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beyond ourselves and looking atthis incredible gift called life
and relationship, what can wecreate together?
And when we go beyond ourselvesthat answer is yet to be seen
Like there are going to be somephenomenal creations when we
look outside of just ourselves.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I think some people think it can't happen for me.
I'm not good enough, or I'm not.
I'm not sure if you ever feltthat, or you know?
What does this, what does thishave to do with me?
I don't know.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Those thoughts, I have them, and this will sound,
this will sound aggressive tosome of your listeners.
That's a selfish thought.
I'm not good enough, I'm notthis, I'm not that.
What if I can't?
Those are to me, those are self, you know.
Once again, it is aggressive.
What are my gifts?
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I have gifts.
I've been given gifts.
How can I use?
How can I serve?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I want to serve.
It's.
It's once, it's other, it's outthere with other.
How can I serve your listeners?
The difference is what do Ilook like?
It's about me.
How's my hair on the podcast?
How's my voice?
That's about me.
Right Versus.
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How do I show up in a way thatserves you and serves leaders
around the world and invitingthem to, to, to bring more love
into their leadership?
I'm interested in that, that.
That fires me up.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
That's an interesting comment, cause we don't edit
the podcast, like I don't editmy words, and sometimes I
sometimes words come out of mymouth I'm like, oh man, did I
say that and and, but that'sjust what happened and so we
don't edit before that reason.
Just it's made to be real, likeI'm not perfect and you know
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this is just going to happen.
So I I loved your commentcomment about that's a selfish
thought and I know you said it'saggressive, but it's, I'm not
good enough.
That's selfish.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Well, it's a judgment , and I don't think we're.
We need discernment yet.
Yet if I judge you, I'm not,I'm not the judge, yeah, right.
And from imperfection I like tosay you know, we're imperfectly
perfect or we're perfectlyimperfect.
Well, that's where the funcomes.
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I've had a chance to be anemcee at a lot of weddings and
do a lot of public speaking.
The joy, the fun came from themistake.
Right, we laughed, you and Ilaughed, about the time zone,
and it builds rapport andthere's humanity in it, there's
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humility in it and trust.
I think trust comes from themistake, and so humility and
trust, all characteristics ofleadership, and let's love upon
our imperfection and go andcreate something together.
I have fallen in love withimperfect and the gap, like the
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mistakes.
I think they're a gift if wecan then remember our purpose
and our mission and our corevalues.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It's a great comment.
Got to remember that.
So at Leader Impact, we'reabout leaders having a lasting
impact, and as you continue tomove through your own journey
and it's been awesome to hearabout it I'm wondering if you've
considered what you want yourfaith journey to be when you
leave this world.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Hear about it, I'm wondering if you've considered
what you want your faith journeyto be when you leave this world
.
Faith to me, lisa has been, andthe pastor who's a great friend
of mine.
Now he and I create not.
Let me take that back.
We didn't create.
We didn't create this, it wasjust a phrase that we use.
Faith to me, is about knowingand not knowing.
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So if I'm about to jump off, weit's summer now and and we have
a pier down at the end of thebeach, where close to where we
live in in crescent beach invancouver, and I don't know for
sure that it's deep enough whenI jump.
Or I do know it's deep enough,I just jump.
Or I do know it's deep enough,I just don't know what's lurking
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below the surface.
And yet I have enough faith totake the leap.
So my hope for listeners is, andthe impact I hope to have for
the rest of my time is toembrace the paradox, and to me,
faith is a paradox.
I know and I don't know.
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I think I know, not even I know.
I think I know and I'm not sure, and I take the leap.
I take the leap anyway, and sowhen things happen in the
business environment or on onsports teams, it's like this is
good or this is bad.
I hope people can leave withthis is is like this, just this,
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just is.
And what?
Remember that we're here now.
What are we trying to do?
What's the impact we can havetogether.
So, yeah, definitely embracingparadox, and things are
happening for us, even even ifit's even if it's awful is it
awful or is this actuallyamazing?
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And then choosing agency,choosing ownership, language,
choosing, you know.
Back to the original podcast umpersonal performance impact how
do you integrate what's goingon into where you're going next
so that I hope that servespeople?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
yeah, I think we, we want or we think our religion
has to be our faith.
Our religion has to be ourfaith.
Our religion has to be perfectand it doesn't have to be for me
, it's I, just I have to show up, I show up and I'm learning
it's.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
To me it's disingenuous if we think it's
perfect.
I'm not interested in thatbecause to me it's not true.
If if there was a perfectpodcast episode, I would think
it's manufactured I love, justcause there's what is perfect If
there was a perfect podcastepisode.
I would think it's manufactured.
I love just because there'swhat is perfect, Like there's no
such thing as perfect.
That's a perspective to have.
We can pursue it.
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Let's pursue perfection andlet's not be surprised when we
don't reach perfection.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Right, all right, and our last question for you is
what?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
brings you the greatest joy Right in this
moment?
Imperfection, what brings methe greatest joy?
I would say relationships.
The relationships with my wife,the relationships with
strangers, just any relationship.
The relationship, just anyrelationship.
And back to good or bad, anyrelationship.
Because they teach me things.
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I can teach people things.
I'm a student when I'm taught,so, yeah, just relationships to
me make the world go round andthey make the world grind to a
halt.
So to me, if we can serve eachother, if we can solve, see
everyone as a ally, not anadversary, that brings me joy.
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When I can get in front ofgroups and engage with people
and shift how people see othersand have them see that we can
all be adversaries for eachother, that brings me a ton of
joy.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah.
So I was going to ask youearlier.
You mentioned your company name, morco, and you you referred to
it a little bit earlier, buttell us, how did you get to
Morco, like M?
O?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
R E Co.
Yeah, it stands for.
It stands for more and and justyeah, something greater than
right.
If people don't find Godaccessible, they have an
aversion to that.
Not to diminish God, it can bean acronym of greatly outside
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definition.
Just something more.
There's something more.
And also, the CO stands formany things and right now it
stands for conversation.
Let's engage in moreconversation, because
understanding will come fromthere, or more consideration.
Let's be more considerate ofwhere someone's coming from,
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what they're handling, and let'slook at more options.
Let's be more considerate ofwhere someone's coming from,
what they're handling, and let'slook at more options.
Let's be more collaborative aswe compete Lots of co's in there
let's be more collaborative aswe go on our mission, to what
we're headed towards.
So, yeah, more co stands forjust something more, something
outside of definition, and let'sdo it together in collaboration
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.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Awesome.
I'm glad I asked that questionBecause I was like what co would
just be company, right?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I don't know more company, relationship, more
relationship company, but it's,but it's more than that.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
So, yeah, I want to thank you, matt, for just
joining us at the last half hour.
So I was wondering if anyonewants to thank you, matt, for
just joining us the last halfhour or so.
I was wondering if anyone wantsto contact you.
Find you, look you up what'sthe best place to do that.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, they can look me up on LinkedIn if they choose
to, at morecoca, on Instagram,which is where I found your
podcast and found the contentthat you have, and my hope is
that they actually don'tnecessarily follow me or choose
to follow me.
They choose to follow theirhearts, they choose to follow
their faith and they choose tofollow their mission in whatever
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industry and business thatthey're in.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Awesome.
Well, I want to thank you forjoining us.
It's been fabulous to sharethis last half hour with you.
I show up because I learnedsomething and I walk away
feeling pretty good.
So you changed my day, youchanged my moment, so thank you.
Thank you Likewise.
Thank you very much joining usand if you're part of Leader
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you.
Welcome to the Leader Impact Podcast.
We are a community of leaderswith a network in over 350
cities around the world,dedicated to optimizing our
personal, professional andspiritual lives to have impact.
This show is where we have achance to listen and engage with
leaders who are living this out.
We love talking with leaders,so if you have any questions,
comments or suggestions to makethe show even better, please let
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website at leaderimpact.
com.
I'm your host, Lisa Peters, andour guest today is Matthew Gould
, founder of More Co.
He is an executive coach,mediator and passionate
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leadership facilitator.
Matt currently works with newand existing leaders at all
levels within organizations.
He believes that everyone is aleader, regardless of their role
, and that leadership beginswith leading yourself.
He also believes thatrelationships drive results and
experiences and it is up to usto take responsibility
accordingly.
He collaborates with companiesin a variety of industries,
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including tech, automotive,telecom, transportation,
construction and law enforcement.
His passion is leadership,communication, negotiation and
navigating towards shared goals.
Welcome to the show, Matt.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Thanks, Lisa, Wow Interesting you hear my bio and
think who?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
is that that's me?
There was so much more I couldhave read.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, there's a lot more to all of us, right, and I
was introduced to you justthrough Instagram and your great
Instagram there and listeningto an episode with Dave Klassen,
and I know there's a lot moreto Dave and I know there's a lot
more to you.
So, yeah, thanks forintroducing me and thanks for
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having me on the show.
There's a lot more to all of us.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, and I think I realized that after our first
conversation.
So I'm excited that you joinedus and excited to share.
So we always ask a little bitabout our professional stories
and how you got to where you aretoday.
So I'm wondering if you cangive us a couple of snapshots
that were pivotal turning pointsin that journey.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yes, In hindsight they're easy to say what the
pivotal moments were, and Iwould go back to my very first
what I would call my first realjob, and it was a relationship
that made it pivotal.
So I was living in the NorthShore in Vancouver, Canada, and
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I wanted the next job, I wantedthe upgraded job, and a friend
of mine had it and he wasturning pro for hockey.
And so he said to me I'm aboutto go and quit my job because
I've turned pro.
And I said well, I'm comingwith you and I'm going to make
it really easy for the employerto replace you with me.
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And so this is like a scene outof a movie.
He went into the office andresigned and I was hiding behind
the door and his director saidI can't believe.
You're like congratulations,you're going to play pro hockey,
how am I going to fulfill yourrole?
And I literally popped out andsaid I'm here to replace your
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role.
And there's a series of thosethroughout my career and
possibly to your listeners,their careers where it was the
relationship that opened a doorfor sure.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, it's interesting because in your bio
you talk about um.
We have to take uh ourexperiences and our results like
uh responsibility accordingly,like your life is your
responsibility yes take it, youknow, like I mean, we know
there's more to it, but we are,yeah, I just I love that.
You say that it's about theexperiences that you had and the
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stepping up.
So, yeah, so did your friendstay pro hockey?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
He stayed pro hockey and then has had a career from
there, and for me the next stagewas university.
So that was sort of a preuniversity relationship that
opened a door.
And then my roommate once againin hindsight, my roommate's
brother was working in telecomand he said to me would you like
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to quit university and come andsell cell phones and pagers
that will date me.
And I said, no, let me finishuniversity and if we're still in
relationship and there's stillan opportunity, I'll take you up
on your offer.
And so literally three yearslater, lisa, the offer was still
there, the cell phone industrywas taking off and it was
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through a relationship, therewas an introduction and it just
that's.
That's that's the ultimatestory.
and, as you introduced yourpodcast, this idea of personal
professional impact- yeah as Iwas listening to you, I was like
, yes, it starts with personal.
What is my personalcontribution and what do I want
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to create with others and inrelationship with others outside
of myself?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, I uh.
It was funny when you talkedabout cell phones and pagers and
you're like no, I got to goback to school and I wonder, at
that point did you think Iwonder if that'll really take
off?
I don't know how does that dateus?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
yeah, I didn't know and I was attracted to the glitz
and the glamour, oh and and thestuff right.
So I didn't have faith backthen and I was interested in, I
mean, suvs were just coming outand my roommate's brother's name
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was Mike and Mike had thisgreat SUV and he had a great
watch and he had a great pagerand he just looked cool Right.
And back then I was interestedin the surface and not the
substance and so I didn't reallyknow about the industry, lisa.
What I did know was I kind ofwanted to look cool, so why
don't I go and sell some phonesand see if that will work?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, well, you waited, you finished university,
so you got there.
Our next question we talk aboutprinciples of success and I'm
wondering if you have one thatyou can share, your best
principle?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
success.
A story that might illustratethat?
Yeah, it goes to.
There's many, and yourlisteners would have theirs For
me.
Another Mike in my life is oneof my friends.
I met at university and I do alot of work with him and his
company.
He has 700 team members, 700employees, and he taught me this
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principle and it was to take100% responsibility for your 50%
in the relationship.
So you and I, you and I havemet, we have a quick
relationship.
Professionally speaking, wedon't really know each other and
it is up to me to take 100%responsibility for my half of
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what goes on and to care for thewhole thing.
So it's never about.
The principle that I havelearned to grow into is to
eradicate any blame.
You and I had a time zoneunderstanding and, rather than
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blame you or blame myself, likeblame to me is a divisive,
diminishing characteristic.
I don't think it's very lovingand it doesn't solve anything.
I find it in my life.
It causes more issues and so ifI can take 100% responsibility
for my interpretation of yourtext message, which is really
(08:18):
our text exchange and thenadjust accordingly like, what's
our goal together?
Our goal together is to impactleaders around the world who get
to listen to your podcast.
That's more important than ourunderstanding of time zones.
So yeah, 100% ownership of my50% and caring for us, caring
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for the relationship.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Wow, I loved how you used our example this morning.
So, anyone listening, we had atime zone issue, so we're an
hour earlier for me.
So I whipped upstairs, whippedup my hair and I was like I'm
(09:01):
ready Five minutes.
But just listening to you, Iwas rushing and I was in my mind
Now listening to you talk abouta hundred percent
responsibility of 50% of therelationship.
Yeah it, when we got on thiscall, it was just we're here for
a bigger reason, so we're fiveminutes late, you know.
Yeah, so that's a greatprinciple of success and it was
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that client.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It was that client.
Many of us were impacted byCOVID and the global pandemic.
And it was that client whophoned me in March when COVID
was first becoming aninternational situation.
And Mike called and said I am,I am cutting your contract by
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50% effective.
And I said Is this up fornegotiation?
What's what's up fornegotiation is we could cut it
to zero as well, like, like.
We don't know how our businessis going to survive as retail is
shutting its doors.
And so, after hanging up, Icould have blamed him, I could
(10:11):
have blamed COVID I didn't knowwhat it was at the time and
instead, the principle that Mikehad taught me, I put into
effect and it was okay, I'mgoing to take 100%
responsibility for my half ofthe situation.
And I decided to your point,lisa there was a bigger cause
here.
It wasn't about my income, itwas about why was I engaging
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with Mike and his leaders in thefirst place?
So I decided to continue todeliver leadership, coaching and
executive development at 50cents on the dollar.
I just decided that I cancontrol that and that's the
reason why I'm in thisprofession in the first place.
And six months later, I did thatfor six months, and six months
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later I got a phone call fromthe CEO and he said we have a
problem, matthew, and anytimeI'm in trouble they say my full
name.
And so I said what's theproblem?
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And he said well, you've beenworking at 100%, at 50 cents on
the dollar.
You, you to backdate an invoiceand I'm going to, I'm going to
top you back up.
Now it wasn't to a hundredpercent of the time.
That's just an example of Icould have blamed him.
It could, I could have caused afracture in the relationship.
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Instead, I said okay, what canI do?
And what's my mission?
What's my purpose?
What's my vision?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Good for you.
There was a.
There's a lot of good storieslike that from companies either.
You know, the CEO stepped awayfrom his wage to ensure that he
didn't have to let his staff go.
But when a CEO does that, thestaff may go.
You know what, when theleadership does it first, the
staff will look and go.
You know what.
I can do it too, so that wenton as well.
(12:21):
So, but for you to be the firstperson to take that
responsibility because, yeah, itcould have been zero.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It could have been zero and I could have made it
zero, I could have made itconflictual, I could have been
divisive, and I just know wherethat serves.
Where I've done that in my life, I know where that's the result
of it, and the result of it isa broken relationship, and that
just deteriorates further, andwe're both, then victims of a
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choice that I made.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I'd rather make a new choice, which is to be in
relationships, healthy ones,healthy ones with boundaries.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Are you so just?
Are you always so?
Do you do you think thisquickly, cause sometimes my mind
goes to the like I'm angry Doyou ever do step back?
And I'm thinking of sometimeswe're running, we're running at
110%, something happens, and doI, you know?
Do you just?
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Are you like, are you alwaysthis confident Because I think,
oh, I might.
I got to step back out of thesituation before I blow up, blow
up, yeah, so 100%?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
no, I am not.
I am not.
And the very first responsethat I have in every situation
is WTF.
And that may mean one thing toyour listeners.
What it means to me is is whatto fight or what to flight.
So we're wired for safety,right.
Ourselves want to protectourselves.
So when that phone call came in, or any situation that happens
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if my Wi-Fi drops, my firstresponse my wife says I'm like a
duck.
I'm calm on the surface andunderneath my web feeder
paddling away.
So yeah, my very first response.
And, in a leadership positionand the responsibility that I've
held, the results will come in.
For example, or a customer willcancel their sale or we won't
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get a sale.
And my very first responseinternally is WTF.
And I'm wondering who to fault.
That's it can stand for who tofault, or and I have an
emotional reaction internallyI've learned to make that an
internal one.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
And then pause and realize this isn't about me,
this isn't a personal attack.
Even if it is, there'ssomething greater here.
What's my purpose, what's mymission, what's our purpose,
what's our mission, and thenselect accordingly, like, select
a behavior, select a response,knowing that my response will
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have an impact on the situation.
So, yeah, I, I've learned andtrained myself, actually used
instagram to train myself to, togo from being reactive to being
creative and reactive andcreative.
Exact same letters and aslightly different order.
So long winded answer to say Iget triggered.
(15:29):
I get triggered like thatbecause I'm a human being and
have emotions, and usually myemotions are to say I get
triggered like that because I'ma human being and have emotions,
and usually my emotions are toprotect me and myself.
And I've learned to not actfrom there because we're called
to be in relationship.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Very good, I'm going to have to start wearing like
dark glasses so you don't see myeyes.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's okay though it's okay, You're human, right?
You probably had a reaction tome saying I'm here, I'm ready
for the podcast, and and and hownormal, right, and how normal
if you had said yes, and pleasewait an hour, and and I would
have been okay with it, Becausewhat's our bigger goal?
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What are we called to do?
Some of your listenerslisteners are Christian.
What are we called to do?
We're called to love.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
That's great.
So this leads right into my myquestion about failures and
mistakes, because I think we allknow we learn more from our
failures and mistakes than oursuccesses.
And I'm wondering I mean,you've talked a little bit about
what things happen, but can youtalk about a failure or mistake
where you learned more and youknow, like what did you learn
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from it?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
And, yeah, my greatest failure and it
continues to be less and lessand less and less is when I push
out others and think I can doit by myself.
So in my early telecom career,the industry was taking off and
it was successful.
As you know, many of us can'tput our devices away anymore.
It's probably more successfulthan the creators believed it
would be.
And I initially was promotedand my ego became a lot bigger
(17:23):
than the door of my office andsomehow my head and my ego get
through my door every day.
What I learned was I was tryingto do it by myself and Lisa and
listeners.
I was demoted within about ninemonths because my team could
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not stand how great I thought Iwas.
They were like, no, no, we dothis together.
How come, you think?
All of a sudden I was promotedamongst my peers, and it's that
can be a hard transition forsome, and so I struggled, I was
demoted and I was exposed to.
Well, I chose to look at whatwent wrong.
(18:07):
What, what was it?
And ego came up and there's agreat expression, or it's an
acronym, and wayne dyer uh, isthe person I heard it from, dr
wayne dyer, who's passed awayand he called it edging god out,
and for listeners who don'thave faith, it can also stand
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for edging greatness out.
So my failures, when I havethem and I have them often and
we I do learn from them.
I actually I don't love thefailure, I love the learning.
I also learn a lot from mysuccesses and I learned from
both.
But yeah, anytime I edge outothers, others or edge God out,
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it's just going to be a lessthan experience and a less than
result.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
And.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I'm not interested in , I'm no longer interested in
living a less than life and lessthan experiences.
I want, I want, I wantphenomenal ones.
Yeah, so I've learned to, I'vecontinued to learn the lesson of
not edging others out.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, where were you in your life when your ego got?
Because, like, where were youin the faith journey when you
realized your ego?
Like when?
Because I don't think and Iknow you know we'll get into
that, but where were you whenthe ego got too large?
(19:34):
And you're, you know you got,let go.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, I was.
I was just in the, I was in thedark, I was atheist and had no
interest in faith.
It was.
It was for everyone else, orother people, not everyone else.
It was for those who wanted it,and I, I saw it as a, as a
weakness, because I can do it bymyself.
I don't, I don't need, I don'tneed something that I can't see.
(20:00):
I don't, I don't need somethingthat I don't believe in.
And and so where was I?
Straight in the center of no,no faith whatsoever and really,
in hindsight, lonely, insecureand trying to figure it all out
(20:20):
on my own.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, and you had a really nice SUV and a big watch.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Which led to next to no fulfillment.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, yeah Good.
So the next question is aboutthat, because at Leader Impact
we do want to grow personally,professionally and spiritually
for increasing impact.
You've talked about this, soI'm wondering if you'd be
willing to share an example ofhow the spiritual makes a
practical difference in yourlife as a leader.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
It makes all the difference in my, in my
experience and in my life.
It makes all the difference now, because if I'm in, if I'm in
an office, if I'm in a boardroom, it doesn't matter where.
Where I am, there's somethinggreater available to us.
So, you and me, right nowthere's just yes, yes, we're on
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a podcast, yes, we're usingtechnology, yes, we're trying to
serve your audience, andthere's just something more.
And when we're in you mentionedas a mediator you know beyond
what I want and beyond what theother person wants, if we're in
conflict, there's more.
(21:37):
And so faith to me is aboutlove, and the word love can be
perceived as soft and squishy,and we don't have time for that.
We need to increase our revenue,we need to increase EBITDA, we
need to deliver profit yeah andmy from from experience and I'm
(22:00):
conscious of saying my all thetime um, from from experience,
love generates abundance.
And so when I get outside ofself, when you get outside of
self, and we say, okay, what arewe here to serve?
We're here to serve somethinggreater.
So faith is.
I can pinpoint on a graph where, having faith and looking
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beyond ourselves and looking atthis incredible gift called life
and relationship, what can wecreate together?
And when we go beyond ourselvesthat answer is yet to be seen
Like there are going to be somephenomenal creations when we
look outside of just ourselves.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I think some people think it can't happen for me.
I'm not good enough, or I'm not.
I'm not sure if you ever feltthat, or you know?
What does this, what does thishave to do with me?
I don't know.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Those thoughts, I have them, and this will sound,
this will sound aggressive tosome of your listeners.
That's a selfish thought.
I'm not good enough, I'm notthis, I'm not that.
What if I can't?
Those are to me, those are self, you know.
Once again, it is aggressive.
What are my gifts?
(23:21):
I have gifts.
I've been given gifts.
How can I use?
How can I serve?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I want to serve.
It's.
It's once, it's other, it's outthere with other.
How can I serve your listeners?
The difference is what do Ilook like?
It's about me.
How's my hair on the podcast?
How's my voice?
That's about me.
Right Versus.
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How do I show up in a way thatserves you and serves leaders
around the world and invitingthem to, to, to bring more love
into their leadership?
I'm interested in that, that.
That fires me up.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
That's an interesting comment, cause we don't edit
the podcast, like I don't editmy words, and sometimes I
sometimes words come out of mymouth I'm like, oh man, did I
say that and and, but that'sjust what happened and so we
don't edit before that reason.
Just it's made to be real, likeI'm not perfect and you know
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this is just going to happen.
So I I loved your commentcomment about that's a selfish
thought and I know you said it'saggressive, but it's, I'm not
good enough.
That's selfish.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Well, it's a judgment , and I don't think we're.
We need discernment yet.
Yet if I judge you, I'm not,I'm not the judge, yeah, right.
And from imperfection I like tosay you know, we're imperfectly
perfect or we're perfectlyimperfect.
Well, that's where the funcomes.
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I've had a chance to be anemcee at a lot of weddings and
do a lot of public speaking.
The joy, the fun came from themistake.
Right, we laughed, you and Ilaughed, about the time zone,
and it builds rapport andthere's humanity in it, there's
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humility in it and trust.
I think trust comes from themistake, and so humility and
trust, all characteristics ofleadership, and let's love upon
our imperfection and go andcreate something together.
I have fallen in love withimperfect and the gap, like the
(25:48):
mistakes.
I think they're a gift if wecan then remember our purpose
and our mission and our corevalues.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It's a great comment.
Got to remember that.
So at Leader Impact, we'reabout leaders having a lasting
impact, and as you continue tomove through your own journey
and it's been awesome to hearabout it I'm wondering if you've
considered what you want yourfaith journey to be when you
leave this world.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Hear about it, I'm wondering if you've considered
what you want your faith journeyto be when you leave this world
.
Faith to me, lisa has been, andthe pastor who's a great friend
of mine.
Now he and I create not.
Let me take that back.
We didn't create.
We didn't create this, it wasjust a phrase that we use.
Faith to me, is about knowingand not knowing.
(26:36):
So if I'm about to jump off, weit's summer now and and we have
a pier down at the end of thebeach, where close to where we
live in in crescent beach invancouver, and I don't know for
sure that it's deep enough whenI jump.
Or I do know it's deep enough,I just jump.
Or I do know it's deep enough,I just don't know what's lurking
(26:57):
below the surface.
And yet I have enough faith totake the leap.
So my hope for listeners is, andthe impact I hope to have for
the rest of my time is toembrace the paradox, and to me,
faith is a paradox.
I know and I don't know.
(27:19):
I think I know, not even I know.
I think I know and I'm not sure, and I take the leap.
I take the leap anyway, and sowhen things happen in the
business environment or on onsports teams, it's like this is
good or this is bad.
I hope people can leave withthis is is like this, just this,
(27:43):
just is.
And what?
Remember that we're here now.
What are we trying to do?
What's the impact we can havetogether.
So, yeah, definitely embracingparadox, and things are
happening for us, even even ifit's even if it's awful is it
awful or is this actuallyamazing?
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And then choosing agency,choosing ownership, language,
choosing, you know.
Back to the original podcast umpersonal performance impact how
do you integrate what's goingon into where you're going next
so that I hope that servespeople?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
yeah, I think we, we want or we think our religion
has to be our faith.
Our religion has to be ourfaith.
Our religion has to be perfectand it doesn't have to be for me
, it's I, just I have to show up, I show up and I'm learning
it's.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
To me it's disingenuous if we think it's
perfect.
I'm not interested in thatbecause to me it's not true.
If if there was a perfectpodcast episode, I would think
it's manufactured I love, justcause there's what is perfect If
there was a perfect podcastepisode.
I would think it's manufactured.
I love just because there'swhat is perfect, Like there's no
such thing as perfect.
That's a perspective to have.
We can pursue it.
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Let's pursue perfection andlet's not be surprised when we
don't reach perfection.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Right, all right, and our last question for you is
what?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
brings you the greatest joy Right in this
moment?
Imperfection, what brings methe greatest joy?
I would say relationships.
The relationships with my wife,the relationships with
strangers, just any relationship.
The relationship, just anyrelationship.
And back to good or bad, anyrelationship.
Because they teach me things.
(29:38):
I can teach people things.
I'm a student when I'm taught,so, yeah, just relationships to
me make the world go round andthey make the world grind to a
halt.
So to me, if we can serve eachother, if we can solve, see
everyone as a ally, not anadversary, that brings me joy.
(30:02):
When I can get in front ofgroups and engage with people
and shift how people see othersand have them see that we can
all be adversaries for eachother, that brings me a ton of
joy.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah.
So I was going to ask youearlier.
You mentioned your company name, morco, and you you referred to
it a little bit earlier, buttell us, how did you get to
Morco, like M?
O?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
R E Co.
Yeah, it stands for.
It stands for more and and justyeah, something greater than
right.
If people don't find Godaccessible, they have an
aversion to that.
Not to diminish God, it can bean acronym of greatly outside
(30:50):
definition.
Just something more.
There's something more.
And also, the CO stands formany things and right now it
stands for conversation.
Let's engage in moreconversation, because
understanding will come fromthere, or more consideration.
Let's be more considerate ofwhere someone's coming from,
(31:13):
what they're handling, and let'slook at more options.
Let's be more considerate ofwhere someone's coming from,
what they're handling, and let'slook at more options.
Let's be more collaborative aswe compete Lots of co's in there
let's be more collaborative aswe go on our mission, to what
we're headed towards.
So, yeah, more co stands forjust something more, something
outside of definition, and let'sdo it together in collaboration
(31:36):
.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Awesome.
I'm glad I asked that questionBecause I was like what co would
just be company, right?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I don't know more company, relationship, more
relationship company, but it's,but it's more than that.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
So, yeah, I want to thank you, matt, for just
joining us at the last half hour.
So I was wondering if anyonewants to thank you, matt, for
just joining us the last halfhour or so.
I was wondering if anyone wantsto contact you.
Find you, look you up what'sthe best place to do that.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, they can look me up on LinkedIn if they choose
to, at morecoca, on Instagram,which is where I found your
podcast and found the contentthat you have, and my hope is
that they actually don'tnecessarily follow me or choose
to follow me.
They choose to follow theirhearts, they choose to follow
their faith and they choose tofollow their mission in whatever
(32:25):
industry and business thatthey're in.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Awesome.
Well, I want to thank you forjoining us.
It's been fabulous to sharethis last half hour with you.
I show up because I learnedsomething and I walk away
feeling pretty good.
So you changed my day, youchanged my moment, so thank you.
Thank you Likewise.
Thank you very much joining usand if you're part of Leader
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Impact, you can always discussor share this podcast with your
group.
And if you're not yet part ofLeader Impact and would like to
find out more and grow yourleadership, find our podcast
page on our website atleaderimpactca and check out our
free leadership assessment.
You'll also find on our webpagechapter one of Brayden
Douglas's book Becoming a Leaderof Impact.
You can also check out groupsavailable in Canada at
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Or, if you're listening fromanywhere else in the world,
check out leaderimpactcom or getin touch with us by email.
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