June 11, 2025 • 37 mins
What does leadership look like when air raid sirens could interrupt your workday at any moment? From his office in Lviv, Ukraine, Andrew Denysov shares how leading a global technology company amid war has transformed his understanding of resilience, purpose, and faith-driven leadership.
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome to the Leader Impact Podcast.
We are a community of leaderswith a network in over 350
cities around the world,dedicated to optimizing our
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website at leaderimpactcom.
I'm your host, lisa Peters, andour guest today is Andrew
Denisoff.
Andrew is co-founder and CEO ofTechVision Global, whose
software has been used forMcDonald's, walgreens and
7-Eleven and many others.
Although TechVision Global isheadquartered in Tennessee,
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andrew has chosen to work withsoftware developers in Lviv,
ukraine.
We first introduced you toAndrew in April 2022, less than
two months after the Russianinvasion of Ukraine on February
24th.
Andrew's life, along witheveryone in Ukraine, has changed
.
I am honored that Andrew hascome back every year to chat
with us and share his lifeliving and working as a leader
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in Ukraine.
Welcome back to the show,andrew.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Thank you so much, Lisa, for having me fourth time.
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It is a blessing to keep having you back.
So thank you for just keepcoming back and keep sharing.
It is just an honor.
I was going back over our notesgoing like, what have we
chatted about?
And the first episode we did in2022 was episode eight, for
anyone listening, and we talkeda lot about.
Um, I'm looking at my notes.
(01:48):
Uh, we talked about you, yourcountry, running a business in
your country.
Uh, we talked about cyber war.
We talked about spiritual war.
Uh, we came back in.
What was it?
2023, episode 31.
We talked about the role globalbusiness leaders have In 2024,
episode 57, we are killing ithere.
(02:10):
We talked about leadershipstyle and approach.
We talked about uniquechallenges as leaders in Ukraine
.
So we're just going to keepgoing, andrew, it is yeah, it's
great to have you.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
First of all, thank you for having me.
I'm really humbled and honoredto, not just for Stan being here
, but actually for yourattention to Ukraine, to the
leadership topics and, of course, to the way what's actually
happening over here and the wayhow you changed the world, lisa.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Andrew.
So I always want our firstquestion to just be about that
update.
If you have an update to whatyour experience, how you're
living in Lviv, Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Thank you, lisa.
You know I remember that youasked this question in previous
episodes as well and I just youknow, I tried to circle back a
little bit.
What happened every single yearfor these past?
Now almost three and a halfyears, right?
Oh, different updates, but Iwould be more than more than
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honored to share with, with,with the listeners of your
podcast a fantastic podcast toget today as well, since this is
the fourth year of full-scaleinvasion of this war and this is
something that we didn't choose, that.
But we have to live with thisand we have to uh, you know,
just like, just keep living andenjoying the next day, but we
have the reality.
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So living in Lviv today is aparadox.
Why?
Because Lviv is located in thewestern part of Ukraine, which
is just one hour drive from theborder with Poland, which is the
European Union 34 miles, 40miles, something like that, so
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very close.
So, on one hand, we live underthe constant shadow of war, like
sirens, missile threats and theknowledge that safety is never
guaranteed Never.
So you can follow that on thenews, right?
So, on another, there's anincredible sense of unity,
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resilience and purpose among thepeople here in Ukraine and, as
entrepreneur.
It pushes me to think, like youknow, bigger and act bolder.
So, for example, talking aboutthe business, we built
TechVision, not in spite of thewar but because of it.
And yeah, we started a littlebit before the war, but you know
(04:58):
, I mean it's just like ourreality in the middle of the war
.
So, because of it, you know, toshow that Ukrainians can build
world-class software solutions,serve, you know, major global
clients and raise the standardof excellence I love that word
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Even under the pressure.
Under pressure, so, likepersonally, it has like deepened
my sense of mission and urgencyand I always say to me, first
of all, that our life is tooshort and our mission is too
important.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
That's good.
I love that.
I also want to acknowledge wasit two years ago you had a new
baby.
So tell us a little bit aboutyour wife, your family.
You are a family of three now,well, four, with your wife.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, lisa, you know that, how do you remember?
I love you so much guys.
So yeah, uh, june 1st we'llcelebrate two years of our
newborn baby.
His name is david.
(06:14):
Fantastic david, he's the.
I mean, he's like a son, I meanlights to our lives right now.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And how are the children?
I know from 2022, I believe thechildren were pulled out of
school.
Maybe it was temporary, but arethey back in school?
Are they living a good life?
Because you talked about justthat safety is never guaranteed.
So how do you raise childrenwhen safety is never guaranteed?
It's still on the table.
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How do you raise?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
children when safety is never guaranteed or, and you
know, um, it's still on thetable, um, but of course, you
cannot live in a fear.
You're like forever, right, soyour whole life.
So you have to adapt it.
And uh, yeah, we adapted.
And uh, now we live in the samereality.
Of course, technology help us topredict and follow the news and
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we have like to win some timeto go to the bomb shelter, but,
yeah, this is our reality.
So, for example, when weunderstand that, oh, for example
, a little bit chilly outside,we have to give our kids extra
code or something like that,because we know that if or when
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the air raid service comes, theyhave to, you know, stay warm in
some kind of.
We don't have bomb shelters.
This is like underground,underground parking, which is
cold, right, so this is just asmall glance of reality, what we
have.
But, uh, thank god and thankour government, the education
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process is going.
Uh, kids getting is gettingtheir education.
So, um, all good, as, as we cancall that good in in the middle
of this time right and I just Iappreciate that update.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I think people wonder what it, what life is like, the
simple things and education isvery important.
So to hear that you know thegovernment is continuing, we are
all good, as you're saying I'mgoing to take that for what
you're saying and we are movingforward.
You know you are in a uniquesituation and we are as you said
.
We are bigger and we're actingbolder.
(08:25):
So I want to talk a little bitabout your journey and I'm not
sure if you want to.
You know how you got to whereyou are today.
But really, what we're lookingfor is we talk a lot about
pivotal turning points andeither since you started global,
how you tech vision gettingthere, or even the last few
years, have you had any of thosepivotal turning points that you
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can share with us?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, I think there are.
I mean I can share a few ofthem.
I think I had a bunch of astable job in the UK-based
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technology company with theoffice here in Lviv, and I
co-founded TechVision because Ijust had some kind of fire
inside that just kept me awakein the middle of the night.
So of course, it was riskyEntrepreneurs will understand me
right but I believed thatbuilding something of our own,
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grounded in values likeownership, excellence and
purpose, would have far moreimpact.
Um, I always love that word,but you know it's a good word
but in reality is very different, right?
So that leap taught me thatvision must be baked by courage.
(10:00):
So courage everywhere, on thebattlefield and in the
marketplace, right?
So that was kind of first leap.
I think I would love to sharethat with you.
And you know another one whichis tuned a little bit for this.
You know present times, right.
Like wartime pilot, I would sayso.
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When the full-scale war began,we had clients, employees and
projects depending on us.
I mean, because this is thecompany, right, and we didn't
pause it.
We recognized, increased ourcommunication and found new ways
(10:41):
to believe I'm sorry to delivervalue.
Actually, you know we believein that, so in the hottest
season, and found new ways todeliver value.
Actually, we believe in that.
So in the hottest season webecame stronger, more aligned,
more creative and, of course,more mission and values driven.
I mean, that season taught methat constraint fuels creativity
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and resilience.
And yeah, I can talk a lotabout that, but this is just
like very brief.
What can I share with you rightnow?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I'm sure, listeners who are experiencing, and to
know not the same degree, andrew, don't, we are not in a war but
the setbacks, and to have thatresilience that the clients are
depending on you.
If you need to step back andjust realign and go back, as you
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said, to the mission, thepurpose, why are you here?
Um, I I want like, if you cando it, andrew, I can do it.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
That's what I'm feeling right now I would love
to yes let me add just one morething, like steve job said,
right, um, you know, uh, one ofand I want to emphasize one of
the clients that's, according tothe ndas, we can share and I'm
proud to share that.
You mentioned a few of ourclients in the beginning of this
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episode, like in the intro, andI would like to mention one
more, which is, I mean, lots ofpeople who listen to us right
now and who will listen laterand who will listen later.
They are leaders, entrepreneursand also people who probably,
you know, believe in God andread Bible, right.
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So, and for those who readBible on your phones, you
probably use the result of ourwork, which is the YouVersion
Bible app.
This is the app that actuallyhas includes more than 3,000
versions of the Bible, more than2,000 languages.
(12:52):
And I'll give you a quicksecret, but just between us,
especially for Leader ImpactPodcast and Lisa Peters, today
I'll tell you that in late thisyear, today, I'll tell you that
in late this year, youversionBible app will celebrate 1
billion downloads.
Can you imagine that 8 billionpeople live on this globe but
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YouVersion Bible app willcelebrate 1 billion downloads
and we are the big part of that.
We are a technology partner.
We do all the coding stuff andyou know what?
That's what actually kept mealive.
I mean like active, I couldn'tjust change the trajectory Word.
It's difficult, yeah, difficult, soft version of the word, but
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still, you know we have a worldmission and, yes, of course,
jobs, employees, all of thisprocesses, but um, I, I, I mean
God knows, my prayers were that.
God, even if it's going to bethe last day today, I will keep
fighting on the marketplace andespecially in my company,
because this is not justbusiness and this is not just
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earning money but it's, like Isaid, mission and values driven.
So sorry about like a longeranswer, but I just couldn't miss
the chance to share thatbecause I'm so proud and I'm
humbled and I'm happy to serveYouVersion Bible app as the
software engineering technologypartner.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I am glad you shared and we have talked about that
before because I can't rememberwhat year, but it had been
translated into for Ukraine,that's right.
The country we talked aboutthat, so I'm glad you brought it
up.
It is one of my favorite apps.
I have been on that app foryears, using many of the
programs.
It is fantastic.
(14:44):
So if anyone's listening, youversion look it up.
It's great.
I want to talk about your bestprinciple of success.
We talk a lot about that,leaders talk a lot about that.
What is your best principle ofsuccess and do you have a story
that you can share?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I'd love to you know, when you're 38, I'm 38, you
have probably lots of principles.
You know, when you're 38, I'm38, you have probably lots of
principles.
You know in your notes, in yourhead, etc.
But I think I would like topick up one which, honestly, is
the most important for me.
I would say so one of my coreprinciples is ownership.
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Ownership, your mindset of yourown role, no matter your, your
title.
Everything changes your mindset, your performance, performance
and your impact.
So and the story actually fitsreally good, because during the
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that, a critical project with amajor us client not your version
, but another major client inthe United States our team
faceda challenge that could havedelayed delivery.
Just a quick note if you're insoftware engineering, challenges
is your daily bread.
I mean you would like to avoidthat, but you cannot, simply
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just cannot, because this issoftware engineering.
Everything is difficult.
Cannot, Simply just cannot,because this is software
engineering, everything isdifficult.
So, instead of excuses, one ofour engineers and, by the way,
not very like senior, not very,you know, like famous engineer,
but one of the engineers steppedup, solved the problem
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creatively and even improved thesystem beyond expectations.
So you know that culture ofownership where people don't
wait for permissions from, likeproject manager or whatever it
could be, but take theinitiative.
But take the initiative, youknow, and it has become a pillar
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of our success.
So every time when I talk and Imean actually this is what we
cultivate in our companyownership, you don't need to
have title, you don't need tohave the special permission.
If you see the problem, justsolve that, tackle that, help
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your team client uh, don'texpect for raise or I mean raise
.
This is like I mean, uh, a cooloutcome, but just just be the
owner.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Solve problems, change the world and you'll see
the the rest yeah, so a timesyou have it's just a translation
it's ownership, right, you'retalking about being an owner to
the problem.
That's right.
I love that.
We currently in my leaderimpact group, we've been talking
about problem solving and thefirst thing was just how are you
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looking at the problem?
What is your perspective of theproblem?
Can you solve it, or is itunsolvable and are we going into
like we are gonna do thisversus this sucks?
You know, yes, as you said, weare all going to have problems.
It is.
If you don't have problems, youdon't have a job.
(18:09):
Honestly, you know there aregoing to be problems.
So, for someone to step up,take ownership and and give
ideas, um, what?
And what I heard was that thisperson wasn't the most senior
person, right, they, they werejust an idea and everyone
listened, tested, move forward.
(18:31):
That's right.
Yeah, that's right.
It's right, it's, it's, it's a.
One thing about being a leaderis listening, um, and and to
take ownership.
I love that.
Thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
That was a and thank you for emphasizing.
Sorry about my fancy englishguys.
I apologize, this is not mylike first language, but I would
love to, so um um, do my.
I'm doing my best.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Your.
Your language is way betterthan mine in in your country, so
we're good.
One of the things we talk a lotabout on our podcast is just
failures and mistakes, and weall know we learn more from
those failures, those failings,those mistakes so than our own
successes.
So I'm wondering if you canshare one um a mistake, you've
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made a failure and and what youlearned from it oh, I love this
question.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
This is exactly exactly that, believe me or not,
lisa, but we face with thiswork or this mistake, I would
say or the success at the sametime, every single day, five,
six days a week, you know,sometimes so early on I
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underestimated the importance ofcommunication.
I mean obvious thing, right Forextroverts, for people with
well-communicated skills, it'snothing new.
But trust me, if you work intech with highly talented
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engineers who can solve probablylots of problems with
technology in this world,communication on the flip side
is a big, big challenge.
We love them, but we have toface our challenges.
So communication, you knowchallenges, so communication.
So I assumed everyoneunderstood the mission, for
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example, the expectations, theurgency, as I did.
I co -founded that company.
I am the CEO, you know.
But that was the biggestmistake.
So that led to confusion,missed deadlines and even client
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tension.
So the lesson that I got wasclear consistent communication
is an option of its leadershipknow, prioritize over
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communication, feedback loopsand clarity in every direction.
That failure helped us becomebetter, not just as talking, but
through listening and aligning.
And I need to tell you one thingthat's like my online mentor,
craig Rochelle.
He says that as leaders in ourorganizations.
We have to be CPO, chiefproblem solvers and also chief
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reminding officers.
So I love that Chief remindingofficers.
So we have to remind that,because people know that they're
not stupid, they're wise,they're clever.
But, uh, when you're in yourdaily routine, uh, and you know
some kind of set of skills, youstart to forget about this.
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So we have to remind them,remind this to our people yeah,
you have to feel yourorganization, your organization
can be different.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And I'm like I'm talking to listeners yeah, um, I
have had the exact same mistakeand um, I think as as a ceo of
a company and I they did not getmy urgency.
it's like this needs you know.
And before I got angry I wentback and I read the email and I
didn't say I need it done bythree o'clock on Tuesday, that
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this date like I.
I read yes, I can see how youdidn't see my urgency.
I didn't give you a date andthe other thing I learned was
asking the person does this workfor you?
Like I need this by three today.
Can you get it done?
How can I help you?
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I have lived that Such a good example.
I love it as well.
Yeah, I mean, like this is sooften communication.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, and I'm just going to say I would love to
meet Craig Rochelle.
So if you can hook this up,andrew, I'm flying wherever I
need it.
He, his, his.
He has some programs onYouVersion and I have listened
to them all, like Bible studies.
Oh, he is fantastic, so thanks.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Thanks for bringing it up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I love yours that worksthrough him so much yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I'll tell him.
Thank you, chief RemindingOfficer.
I love that.
Chief Reminding Officer yes, soI want to circle back to just
leadership in Ukraine, and we'vetalked a little bit about
principles, of successes, fearsand failures, and I just for you
, what makes a great leader inUkraine?
You've seen the leadership thatyou are being led by by your
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country.
You are seeing it in the peopleyou work with, work for your
clients, but everyone.
What makes a great leader inUkraine, and do you think this
is unique to Ukraine?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Of course, Ukrainians are very unique uh, I'm just
kidding but partially not.
So, uh, you know, uh, you knowthis.
Um, great, also good question.
Because you know, leadership inukraine demands demands now
resilience, adaptability and adeep care of people.
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We lead in crisis with limitedactually resources and often
without ideal conditions.
What makes a great Ukrainianleader is not charisma, but I
would say consistency, trust andcourage under pressure.
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And is it unique to Ukraine Insome way?
Maybe yes, but you know,leading in war zone is different
, but the principles areuniversal.
So people want leaders who showup, stay calm and serve.
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What we learn in crisis canactually inspire leaders, I
think, anywhere.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, great answer and acknowledging these are not
uncommon.
However, when I listen to you,you I feel it very different um
to remain calm, um in my, mycity, my province, my country is
a little different, I'm justgonna say, than remaining calm
in a um a country in a war.
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So unfortunately.
Yes, yeah, and and trust andconsistency.
I, I loved.
I wrote this down.
I'm just, you know, listeningto you and in awe of you, andrew
, um, thank you.
So, yeah, thank you for sharing.
Now.
We've been together for manyyears and I I don't know if I've
ever asked you this question.
(26:09):
Um, at leader impact, we wantto grow personally,
professionally, spiritually.
We ask all our people this asyou continue to lead through
your life, how does thespiritual make a practical
difference in your life as aleader?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
quick story if you don't mind.
Okay, no, I don't.
After that, just a little bitof reflection on your question.
So I just recently realizedthat you know, uh, imagine that
uh, last, especially the lastpast years, we have a problem
with smartphones when peoplespend lots of time kids, adults,
spend a lot of time insmartphones and we have some
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kind of apps that restrict somecontent, time, screen et cetera.
And I agree, actually it'saddiction in some way.
Yeah, but just recently I washooked up, especially because of
my wife.
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So every time when she wakes upshe takes her phone and I said,
baby, you're probably scrollingInstagram, you know, just to
relax, etc.
And she says, no, the first appthat I opened is your Version
Bible App.
And I was like, you know, uh,uh, so please, if this is
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inevitable, I mean I'm, ifyou're listening, I'm, I'm
holding my iphone, uh, phone,right now.
So it's inevitable.
Uh, you, you cannot, I mean cantechnically, but it's difficult
to restrict smartphones etcetera.
So it's inevitable, guys, I'mtelling you I'm from tech world,
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but you cannot eliminate,deduct or cancel whatever it is,
but you can use that wisely.
So show you, especially for youand your kids, that you can use
that properly.
And the first, please you, andI'll tell you the next one
please use your phones just whenyou right, when you just like
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you woke up.
Just take your phone, but useright apps.
Yeah, you know, uh, so, becausejust holding the iphone means
nothing.
But if you like social mediaand whatever it takes, or you
know, I mean, it's your choice.
But if you open the right app,for example again, I'm sorry,
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this is not a new version of theBible app Okay, just read the
Bible on your phone, downloadinto your brain and soul,
through through your eyes andbring like the right god's
information.
So, uh, answering your question,so face is not just a private
belief for me, I would say so,it's just a I mean, I call that,
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it's a compass for how Ipersonally lead, I make
decisions and build teams indifferent.
Currently, by the way, as wespeak, we are launching the
second company, which is aUS-based tech company as well
and different projects also.
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So this is how I build my teamsas well, and in moments of fear
or uncertainty, I mean its me,the fate.
The fate grounds me.
So when making difficultdecisions, I mean really
difficult decisions.
It reminds me to you know,prioritize that people first,
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values first and purpose, uh,over pride.
Also, I want to quote a very newfriend of mine.
His name is Chuck Bentley.
Chuck Bentley, he's the founderof the Crown Ministry and the
Christian Economic Forum.
I highly recommend you invitehim to your podcast as well.
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I can make a personal intro,but this is the perfect quote he
said and I just cannot missthat.
He said that mission drawspeople, values draw right people
.
So I think faith is the sourceof right values.
During the early days of thewar, I had to decide whether to
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keep the company going or pauseeverything to focus on safety,
simply safety.
So, through prayers andreflection, I felt convinced
that our team needed the companyand it gave them stability.
It gave them hope and purpose.
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Guys and I'm talking to you asa marketplace leader, a business
leader yes, for those who runcompanies, businesses, please
keep doing that despite anything.
So, and that decision for mewasn't just strategic, it was
spiritual and it made all thedifference, my friends.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, andrew, when you decided to start this second
company and you talk a littlebit about sharing the mission
and the values, when you launchit to your staff, how did I mean
?
Okay, then we'll go right backto communication, communicating
how passionate this is for you.
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How do you communicate yourpassion?
Did they buy into your?
Why?
Right away, were they like yes,we're in, andrew, if you, if
you believe, we believe.
How did?
How was that process?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
how was that process?
Yes, how was that process?
Yes, oh, good question, youknow, I think that, yes, so
people look at their leaders,right, and they kind of eat what
they eat, but they will notalways buy what they give or
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what they sell, right, yeah, umand uh, the passion to start the
company new company, launched,the new company was my passion,
my, my partner's passion, um, sowe had, I mean, we had to
communicate it properly with ourteams.
And, um, I think that, uh, youknow, we have to know our teams.
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Someone, some people understandthe language of emotions, some
people understand the languageof logic.
So we have to know our peopleand communicate with them
properly, to their hearts andbrains, not just to hearts only
or to brains only.
Again, we're in the business andthis is important to not
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convince, not to sell them, butto explain them, to share within
your heart and in sinceremeaning why your, why, yeah, and
last thing, to be ready thatnot all your people are going to
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buy.
We have to be ready for that.
It's like a sales funnel, right?
I mean, not all people or notall the potential buyers or
leads or prospects were going tobuy your goods and services.
It's just normal world.
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So this is the way how wecommunicate and this is the way
how we think, as for today, nextyear, maybe, I'm going to share
something new with you, lisa.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Well then, I can't wait.
I love that you come back everyyear.
That was a great way to end.
It's like I don't know what'sgoing to happen next year.
But I do want to comment aboutnot all people buy in.
That is a great point to makein that you know you, andrew,
sell with love and passion andheart and not everyone's going
to want to be on the bus.
We call it Andrew Sell withlove and passion and heart, and
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not everyone's going to want tobe on the bus.
We call it.
You know you got to get theright people on your bus and
some people they choose to moveoff.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
You know it's a great concept.
It's hard work, but this iswhat we have to do as leaders.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, and that's okay too.
There are opportunities outthere for everyone and find the
right ones for you.
So, um, andrew, it is awesometo always have you back.
Um, I can't wait for 2026, whenwe come back again and it's
going to be great or maybeyou're just you're going to meet
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one day in person.
That is going to just thrill me, uh, to actually hang out with
you one day.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Looking forward.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Awesome.
Any other comments before I endthis podcast?
You're talking to the world.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
First of all, lisa, thank you for doing this podcast
To the listeners.
Thank you for listening tothese fantastic content, and I
just realized that I want to andI repeat that to everyone that
please, please, never get tiredof changing this world.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Oh, Andrew, you know how to end a podcast.
Thank you for joining us.
We just so appreciate it.
Thank you so much.
All right, thank you so much.
Well, this ends our podcast andwe hope you've enjoyed our time
together.
If our listeners want to engagewith you, andrew, if they want
to find you, they want to findout more about global tech
vision anything.
How?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
can they find you the best, lincoln?
Of course, lincoln.
I think this is the best.
I'm there, I live there, I talkpersonally, not marketing team,
so I apologize for possibledelays, but please feel free to
reach out to me there as well.
And, of course, our corporatewebsite, techvision Global.
This is how we change the worldas well.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Good, all right, I know you do a great job on
LinkedIn and it is personal andit is fantastic, so people can
follow you there.
Thanks again, andrew, forjoining us.
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I'm your host, lisa Peters, andour guest today is Andrew
Denisoff.
Andrew is co-founder and CEO ofTechVision Global, whose
software has been used forMcDonald's, walgreens and
7-Eleven and many others.
Although TechVision Global isheadquartered in Tennessee,
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andrew has chosen to work withsoftware developers in Lviv,
ukraine.
We first introduced you toAndrew in April 2022, less than
two months after the Russianinvasion of Ukraine on February
24th.
Andrew's life, along witheveryone in Ukraine, has changed
.
I am honored that Andrew hascome back every year to chat
with us and share his lifeliving and working as a leader
(01:17):
in Ukraine.
Welcome back to the show,andrew.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Thank you so much, Lisa, for having me fourth time.
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It is a blessing to keep having you back.
So thank you for just keepcoming back and keep sharing.
It is just an honor.
I was going back over our notesgoing like, what have we
chatted about?
And the first episode we did in2022 was episode eight, for
anyone listening, and we talkeda lot about.
Um, I'm looking at my notes.
(01:48):
Uh, we talked about you, yourcountry, running a business in
your country.
Uh, we talked about cyber war.
We talked about spiritual war.
Uh, we came back in.
What was it?
2023, episode 31.
We talked about the role globalbusiness leaders have In 2024,
episode 57, we are killing ithere.
(02:10):
We talked about leadershipstyle and approach.
We talked about uniquechallenges as leaders in Ukraine
.
So we're just going to keepgoing, andrew, it is yeah, it's
great to have you.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
First of all, thank you for having me.
I'm really humbled and honoredto, not just for Stan being here
, but actually for yourattention to Ukraine, to the
leadership topics and, of course, to the way what's actually
happening over here and the wayhow you changed the world, lisa.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Andrew.
So I always want our firstquestion to just be about that
update.
If you have an update to whatyour experience, how you're
living in Lviv, Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Thank you, lisa.
You know I remember that youasked this question in previous
episodes as well and I just youknow, I tried to circle back a
little bit.
What happened every single yearfor these past?
Now almost three and a halfyears, right?
Oh, different updates, but Iwould be more than more than
(03:27):
honored to share with, with,with the listeners of your
podcast a fantastic podcast toget today as well, since this is
the fourth year of full-scaleinvasion of this war and this is
something that we didn't choose, that.
But we have to live with thisand we have to uh, you know,
just like, just keep living andenjoying the next day, but we
have the reality.
(03:48):
So living in Lviv today is aparadox.
Why?
Because Lviv is located in thewestern part of Ukraine, which
is just one hour drive from theborder with Poland, which is the
European Union 34 miles, 40miles, something like that, so
(04:09):
very close.
So, on one hand, we live underthe constant shadow of war, like
sirens, missile threats and theknowledge that safety is never
guaranteed Never.
So you can follow that on thenews, right?
So, on another, there's anincredible sense of unity,
(04:32):
resilience and purpose among thepeople here in Ukraine and, as
entrepreneur.
It pushes me to think, like youknow, bigger and act bolder.
So, for example, talking aboutthe business, we built
TechVision, not in spite of thewar but because of it.
And yeah, we started a littlebit before the war, but you know
(04:58):
, I mean it's just like ourreality in the middle of the war
.
So, because of it, you know, toshow that Ukrainians can build
world-class software solutions,serve, you know, major global
clients and raise the standardof excellence I love that word
(05:19):
Even under the pressure.
Under pressure, so, likepersonally, it has like deepened
my sense of mission and urgencyand I always say to me, first
of all, that our life is tooshort and our mission is too
important.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
That's good.
I love that.
I also want to acknowledge wasit two years ago you had a new
baby.
So tell us a little bit aboutyour wife, your family.
You are a family of three now,well, four, with your wife.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, lisa, you know that, how do you remember?
I love you so much guys.
So yeah, uh, june 1st we'llcelebrate two years of our
newborn baby.
His name is david.
(06:14):
Fantastic david, he's the.
I mean, he's like a son, I meanlights to our lives right now.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And how are the children?
I know from 2022, I believe thechildren were pulled out of
school.
Maybe it was temporary, but arethey back in school?
Are they living a good life?
Because you talked about justthat safety is never guaranteed.
So how do you raise childrenwhen safety is never guaranteed?
It's still on the table.
(06:44):
How do you raise?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
children when safety is never guaranteed or, and you
know, um, it's still on thetable, um, but of course, you
cannot live in a fear.
You're like forever, right, soyour whole life.
So you have to adapt it.
And uh, yeah, we adapted.
And uh, now we live in the samereality.
Of course, technology help us topredict and follow the news and
(07:05):
we have like to win some timeto go to the bomb shelter, but,
yeah, this is our reality.
So, for example, when weunderstand that, oh, for example
, a little bit chilly outside,we have to give our kids extra
code or something like that,because we know that if or when
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the air raid service comes, theyhave to, you know, stay warm in
some kind of.
We don't have bomb shelters.
This is like underground,underground parking, which is
cold, right, so this is just asmall glance of reality, what we
have.
But, uh, thank god and thankour government, the education
(07:46):
process is going.
Uh, kids getting is gettingtheir education.
So, um, all good, as, as we cancall that good in in the middle
of this time right and I just Iappreciate that update.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I think people wonder what it, what life is like, the
simple things and education isvery important.
So to hear that you know thegovernment is continuing, we are
all good, as you're saying I'mgoing to take that for what
you're saying and we are movingforward.
You know you are in a uniquesituation and we are as you said
.
We are bigger and we're actingbolder.
(08:25):
So I want to talk a little bitabout your journey and I'm not
sure if you want to.
You know how you got to whereyou are today.
But really, what we're lookingfor is we talk a lot about
pivotal turning points andeither since you started global,
how you tech vision gettingthere, or even the last few
years, have you had any of thosepivotal turning points that you
(08:46):
can share with us?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, I think there are.
I mean I can share a few ofthem.
I think I had a bunch of astable job in the UK-based
(09:13):
technology company with theoffice here in Lviv, and I
co-founded TechVision because Ijust had some kind of fire
inside that just kept me awakein the middle of the night.
So of course, it was riskyEntrepreneurs will understand me
right but I believed thatbuilding something of our own,
(09:37):
grounded in values likeownership, excellence and
purpose, would have far moreimpact.
Um, I always love that word,but you know it's a good word
but in reality is very different, right?
So that leap taught me thatvision must be baked by courage.
(10:00):
So courage everywhere, on thebattlefield and in the
marketplace, right?
So that was kind of first leap.
I think I would love to sharethat with you.
And you know another one whichis tuned a little bit for this.
You know present times, right.
Like wartime pilot, I would sayso.
(10:21):
When the full-scale war began,we had clients, employees and
projects depending on us.
I mean, because this is thecompany, right, and we didn't
pause it.
We recognized, increased ourcommunication and found new ways
(10:41):
to believe I'm sorry to delivervalue.
Actually, you know we believein that, so in the hottest
season, and found new ways todeliver value.
Actually, we believe in that.
So in the hottest season webecame stronger, more aligned,
more creative and, of course,more mission and values driven.
I mean, that season taught methat constraint fuels creativity
(11:05):
and resilience.
And yeah, I can talk a lotabout that, but this is just
like very brief.
What can I share with you rightnow?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I'm sure, listeners who are experiencing, and to
know not the same degree, andrew, don't, we are not in a war but
the setbacks, and to have thatresilience that the clients are
depending on you.
If you need to step back andjust realign and go back, as you
(11:39):
said, to the mission, thepurpose, why are you here?
Um, I I want like, if you cando it, andrew, I can do it.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
That's what I'm feeling right now I would love
to yes let me add just one morething, like steve job said,
right, um, you know, uh, one ofand I want to emphasize one of
the clients that's, according tothe ndas, we can share and I'm
proud to share that.
You mentioned a few of ourclients in the beginning of this
(12:10):
episode, like in the intro, andI would like to mention one
more, which is, I mean, lots ofpeople who listen to us right
now and who will listen laterand who will listen later.
They are leaders, entrepreneursand also people who probably,
you know, believe in God andread Bible, right.
(12:31):
So, and for those who readBible on your phones, you
probably use the result of ourwork, which is the YouVersion
Bible app.
This is the app that actuallyhas includes more than 3,000
versions of the Bible, more than2,000 languages.
(12:52):
And I'll give you a quicksecret, but just between us,
especially for Leader ImpactPodcast and Lisa Peters, today
I'll tell you that in late thisyear, today, I'll tell you that
in late this year, youversionBible app will celebrate 1
billion downloads.
Can you imagine that 8 billionpeople live on this globe but
(13:15):
YouVersion Bible app willcelebrate 1 billion downloads
and we are the big part of that.
We are a technology partner.
We do all the coding stuff andyou know what?
That's what actually kept mealive.
I mean like active, I couldn'tjust change the trajectory Word.
It's difficult, yeah, difficult, soft version of the word, but
(13:42):
still, you know we have a worldmission and, yes, of course,
jobs, employees, all of thisprocesses, but um, I, I, I mean
God knows, my prayers were that.
God, even if it's going to bethe last day today, I will keep
fighting on the marketplace andespecially in my company,
because this is not justbusiness and this is not just
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earning money but it's, like Isaid, mission and values driven.
So sorry about like a longeranswer, but I just couldn't miss
the chance to share thatbecause I'm so proud and I'm
humbled and I'm happy to serveYouVersion Bible app as the
software engineering technologypartner.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I am glad you shared and we have talked about that
before because I can't rememberwhat year, but it had been
translated into for Ukraine,that's right.
The country we talked aboutthat, so I'm glad you brought it
up.
It is one of my favorite apps.
I have been on that app foryears, using many of the
programs.
It is fantastic.
(14:44):
So if anyone's listening, youversion look it up.
It's great.
I want to talk about your bestprinciple of success.
We talk a lot about that,leaders talk a lot about that.
What is your best principle ofsuccess and do you have a story
that you can share?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I'd love to you know, when you're 38, I'm 38, you
have probably lots of principles.
You know, when you're 38, I'm38, you have probably lots of
principles.
You know in your notes, in yourhead, etc.
But I think I would like topick up one which, honestly, is
the most important for me.
I would say so one of my coreprinciples is ownership.
(15:21):
Ownership, your mindset of yourown role, no matter your, your
title.
Everything changes your mindset, your performance, performance
and your impact.
So and the story actually fitsreally good, because during the
(15:46):
that, a critical project with amajor us client not your version
, but another major client inthe United States our team
faceda challenge that could havedelayed delivery.
Just a quick note if you're insoftware engineering, challenges
is your daily bread.
I mean you would like to avoidthat, but you cannot, simply
(16:10):
just cannot, because this issoftware engineering.
Everything is difficult.
Cannot, Simply just cannot,because this is software
engineering, everything isdifficult.
So, instead of excuses, one ofour engineers and, by the way,
not very like senior, not very,you know, like famous engineer,
but one of the engineers steppedup, solved the problem
(16:32):
creatively and even improved thesystem beyond expectations.
So you know that culture ofownership where people don't
wait for permissions from, likeproject manager or whatever it
could be, but take theinitiative.
But take the initiative, youknow, and it has become a pillar
(16:58):
of our success.
So every time when I talk and Imean actually this is what we
cultivate in our companyownership, you don't need to
have title, you don't need tohave the special permission.
If you see the problem, justsolve that, tackle that, help
(17:19):
your team client uh, don'texpect for raise or I mean raise
.
This is like I mean, uh, a cooloutcome, but just just be the
owner.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Solve problems, change the world and you'll see
the the rest yeah, so a timesyou have it's just a translation
it's ownership, right, you'retalking about being an owner to
the problem.
That's right.
I love that.
We currently in my leaderimpact group, we've been talking
about problem solving and thefirst thing was just how are you
(17:49):
looking at the problem?
What is your perspective of theproblem?
Can you solve it, or is itunsolvable and are we going into
like we are gonna do thisversus this sucks?
You know, yes, as you said, weare all going to have problems.
It is.
If you don't have problems, youdon't have a job.
(18:09):
Honestly, you know there aregoing to be problems.
So, for someone to step up,take ownership and and give
ideas, um, what?
And what I heard was that thisperson wasn't the most senior
person, right, they, they werejust an idea and everyone
listened, tested, move forward.
(18:31):
That's right.
Yeah, that's right.
It's right, it's, it's, it's a.
One thing about being a leaderis listening, um, and and to
take ownership.
I love that.
Thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
That was a and thank you for emphasizing.
Sorry about my fancy englishguys.
I apologize, this is not mylike first language, but I would
love to, so um um, do my.
I'm doing my best.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Your.
Your language is way betterthan mine in in your country, so
we're good.
One of the things we talk a lotabout on our podcast is just
failures and mistakes, and weall know we learn more from
those failures, those failings,those mistakes so than our own
successes.
So I'm wondering if you canshare one um a mistake, you've
(19:20):
made a failure and and what youlearned from it oh, I love this
question.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
This is exactly exactly that, believe me or not,
lisa, but we face with thiswork or this mistake, I would
say or the success at the sametime, every single day, five,
six days a week, you know,sometimes so early on I
(19:49):
underestimated the importance ofcommunication.
I mean obvious thing, right Forextroverts, for people with
well-communicated skills, it'snothing new.
But trust me, if you work intech with highly talented
(20:14):
engineers who can solve probablylots of problems with
technology in this world,communication on the flip side
is a big, big challenge.
We love them, but we have toface our challenges.
So communication, you knowchallenges, so communication.
So I assumed everyoneunderstood the mission, for
(20:37):
example, the expectations, theurgency, as I did.
I co -founded that company.
I am the CEO, you know.
But that was the biggestmistake.
So that led to confusion,missed deadlines and even client
(21:01):
tension.
So the lesson that I got wasclear consistent communication
is an option of its leadershipknow, prioritize over
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communication, feedback loopsand clarity in every direction.
That failure helped us becomebetter, not just as talking, but
through listening and aligning.
And I need to tell you one thingthat's like my online mentor,
craig Rochelle.
He says that as leaders in ourorganizations.
We have to be CPO, chiefproblem solvers and also chief
(21:48):
reminding officers.
So I love that Chief remindingofficers.
So we have to remind that,because people know that they're
not stupid, they're wise,they're clever.
But, uh, when you're in yourdaily routine, uh, and you know
some kind of set of skills, youstart to forget about this.
(22:09):
So we have to remind them,remind this to our people yeah,
you have to feel yourorganization, your organization
can be different.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And I'm like I'm talking to listeners yeah, um, I
have had the exact same mistakeand um, I think as as a ceo of
a company and I they did not getmy urgency.
it's like this needs you know.
And before I got angry I wentback and I read the email and I
didn't say I need it done bythree o'clock on Tuesday, that
(22:40):
this date like I.
I read yes, I can see how youdidn't see my urgency.
I didn't give you a date andthe other thing I learned was
asking the person does this workfor you?
Like I need this by three today.
Can you get it done?
How can I help you?
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I have lived that Such a good example.
I love it as well.
Yeah, I mean, like this is sooften communication.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, and I'm just going to say I would love to
meet Craig Rochelle.
So if you can hook this up,andrew, I'm flying wherever I
need it.
He, his, his.
He has some programs onYouVersion and I have listened
to them all, like Bible studies.
Oh, he is fantastic, so thanks.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Thanks for bringing it up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I love yours that worksthrough him so much yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I'll tell him.
Thank you, chief RemindingOfficer.
I love that.
Chief Reminding Officer yes, soI want to circle back to just
leadership in Ukraine, and we'vetalked a little bit about
principles, of successes, fearsand failures, and I just for you
, what makes a great leader inUkraine?
You've seen the leadership thatyou are being led by by your
(23:59):
country.
You are seeing it in the peopleyou work with, work for your
clients, but everyone.
What makes a great leader inUkraine, and do you think this
is unique to Ukraine?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Of course, Ukrainians are very unique uh, I'm just
kidding but partially not.
So, uh, you know, uh, you knowthis.
Um, great, also good question.
Because you know, leadership inukraine demands demands now
resilience, adaptability and adeep care of people.
(24:33):
We lead in crisis with limitedactually resources and often
without ideal conditions.
What makes a great Ukrainianleader is not charisma, but I
would say consistency, trust andcourage under pressure.
(24:57):
And is it unique to Ukraine Insome way?
Maybe yes, but you know,leading in war zone is different
, but the principles areuniversal.
So people want leaders who showup, stay calm and serve.
(25:18):
What we learn in crisis canactually inspire leaders, I
think, anywhere.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, great answer and acknowledging these are not
uncommon.
However, when I listen to you,you I feel it very different um
to remain calm, um in my, mycity, my province, my country is
a little different, I'm justgonna say, than remaining calm
in a um a country in a war.
(25:49):
So unfortunately.
Yes, yeah, and and trust andconsistency.
I, I loved.
I wrote this down.
I'm just, you know, listeningto you and in awe of you, andrew
, um, thank you.
So, yeah, thank you for sharing.
Now.
We've been together for manyyears and I I don't know if I've
ever asked you this question.
(26:09):
Um, at leader impact, we wantto grow personally,
professionally, spiritually.
We ask all our people this asyou continue to lead through
your life, how does thespiritual make a practical
difference in your life as aleader?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
quick story if you don't mind.
Okay, no, I don't.
After that, just a little bitof reflection on your question.
So I just recently realizedthat you know, uh, imagine that
uh, last, especially the lastpast years, we have a problem
with smartphones when peoplespend lots of time kids, adults,
spend a lot of time insmartphones and we have some
(26:52):
kind of apps that restrict somecontent, time, screen et cetera.
And I agree, actually it'saddiction in some way.
Yeah, but just recently I washooked up, especially because of
my wife.
(27:13):
So every time when she wakes upshe takes her phone and I said,
baby, you're probably scrollingInstagram, you know, just to
relax, etc.
And she says, no, the first appthat I opened is your Version
Bible App.
And I was like, you know, uh,uh, so please, if this is
(27:37):
inevitable, I mean I'm, ifyou're listening, I'm, I'm
holding my iphone, uh, phone,right now.
So it's inevitable.
Uh, you, you cannot, I mean cantechnically, but it's difficult
to restrict smartphones etcetera.
So it's inevitable, guys, I'mtelling you I'm from tech world,
(27:57):
but you cannot eliminate,deduct or cancel whatever it is,
but you can use that wisely.
So show you, especially for youand your kids, that you can use
that properly.
And the first, please you, andI'll tell you the next one
please use your phones just whenyou right, when you just like
(28:21):
you woke up.
Just take your phone, but useright apps.
Yeah, you know, uh, so, becausejust holding the iphone means
nothing.
But if you like social mediaand whatever it takes, or you
know, I mean, it's your choice.
But if you open the right app,for example again, I'm sorry,
(28:42):
this is not a new version of theBible app Okay, just read the
Bible on your phone, downloadinto your brain and soul,
through through your eyes andbring like the right god's
information.
So, uh, answering your question,so face is not just a private
belief for me, I would say so,it's just a I mean, I call that,
(29:02):
it's a compass for how Ipersonally lead, I make
decisions and build teams indifferent.
Currently, by the way, as wespeak, we are launching the
second company, which is aUS-based tech company as well
and different projects also.
(29:23):
So this is how I build my teamsas well, and in moments of fear
or uncertainty, I mean its me,the fate.
The fate grounds me.
So when making difficultdecisions, I mean really
difficult decisions.
It reminds me to you know,prioritize that people first,
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values first and purpose, uh,over pride.
Also, I want to quote a very newfriend of mine.
His name is Chuck Bentley.
Chuck Bentley, he's the founderof the Crown Ministry and the
Christian Economic Forum.
I highly recommend you invitehim to your podcast as well.
(30:05):
I can make a personal intro,but this is the perfect quote he
said and I just cannot missthat.
He said that mission drawspeople, values draw right people
.
So I think faith is the sourceof right values.
During the early days of thewar, I had to decide whether to
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keep the company going or pauseeverything to focus on safety,
simply safety.
So, through prayers andreflection, I felt convinced
that our team needed the companyand it gave them stability.
It gave them hope and purpose.
(30:52):
Guys and I'm talking to you asa marketplace leader, a business
leader yes, for those who runcompanies, businesses, please
keep doing that despite anything.
So, and that decision for mewasn't just strategic, it was
spiritual and it made all thedifference, my friends.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, andrew, when you decided to start this second
company and you talk a littlebit about sharing the mission
and the values, when you launchit to your staff, how did I mean
?
Okay, then we'll go right backto communication, communicating
how passionate this is for you.
(31:36):
How do you communicate yourpassion?
Did they buy into your?
Why?
Right away, were they like yes,we're in, andrew, if you, if
you believe, we believe.
How did?
How was that process?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
how was that process?
Yes, how was that process?
Yes, oh, good question, youknow, I think that, yes, so
people look at their leaders,right, and they kind of eat what
they eat, but they will notalways buy what they give or
(32:10):
what they sell, right, yeah, umand uh, the passion to start the
company new company, launched,the new company was my passion,
my, my partner's passion, um, sowe had, I mean, we had to
communicate it properly with ourteams.
And, um, I think that, uh, youknow, we have to know our teams.
(32:31):
Someone, some people understandthe language of emotions, some
people understand the languageof logic.
So we have to know our peopleand communicate with them
properly, to their hearts andbrains, not just to hearts only
or to brains only.
Again, we're in the business andthis is important to not
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convince, not to sell them, butto explain them, to share within
your heart and in sinceremeaning why your, why, yeah, and
last thing, to be ready thatnot all your people are going to
(33:15):
buy.
We have to be ready for that.
It's like a sales funnel, right?
I mean, not all people or notall the potential buyers or
leads or prospects were going tobuy your goods and services.
It's just normal world.
(33:35):
So this is the way how wecommunicate and this is the way
how we think, as for today, nextyear, maybe, I'm going to share
something new with you, lisa.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Well then, I can't wait.
I love that you come back everyyear.
That was a great way to end.
It's like I don't know what'sgoing to happen next year.
But I do want to comment aboutnot all people buy in.
That is a great point to makein that you know you, andrew,
sell with love and passion andheart and not everyone's going
to want to be on the bus.
We call it Andrew Sell withlove and passion and heart, and
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not everyone's going to want tobe on the bus.
We call it.
You know you got to get theright people on your bus and
some people they choose to moveoff.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
You know it's a great concept.
It's hard work, but this iswhat we have to do as leaders.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, and that's okay too.
There are opportunities outthere for everyone and find the
right ones for you.
So, um, andrew, it is awesometo always have you back.
Um, I can't wait for 2026, whenwe come back again and it's
going to be great or maybeyou're just you're going to meet
(34:45):
one day in person.
That is going to just thrill me, uh, to actually hang out with
you one day.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Looking forward.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Awesome.
Any other comments before I endthis podcast?
You're talking to the world.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
First of all, lisa, thank you for doing this podcast
To the listeners.
Thank you for listening tothese fantastic content, and I
just realized that I want to andI repeat that to everyone that
please, please, never get tiredof changing this world.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Oh, Andrew, you know how to end a podcast.
Thank you for joining us.
We just so appreciate it.
Thank you so much.
All right, thank you so much.
Well, this ends our podcast andwe hope you've enjoyed our time
together.
If our listeners want to engagewith you, andrew, if they want
to find you, they want to findout more about global tech
vision anything.
How?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
can they find you the best, lincoln?
Of course, lincoln.
I think this is the best.
I'm there, I live there, I talkpersonally, not marketing team,
so I apologize for possibledelays, but please feel free to
reach out to me there as well.
And, of course, our corporatewebsite, techvision Global.
This is how we change the worldas well.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Good, all right, I know you do a great job on
LinkedIn and it is personal andit is fantastic, so people can
follow you there.
Thanks again, andrew, forjoining us.
If you're part of Leader Impact, you can always discuss or
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