June 25, 2025 • 30 mins
What happens when you achieve everything you thought would bring happiness but still feel empty inside? Adam Babineau knows this journey all too well.
Adam stepped into real estate at just 19 years old after a vivid dream pointed him toward this path. His natural curiosity and determination quickly led to financial success—but with it came an unexpected emptiness that shook his worldview. "Tony Robbins has a pretty interesting quote where he says that success without fulfillment is the ultimate failure," Adam reflects, describing how his "curious spirit" eventually led him to a spiritual crisis.
The turning point arrived through an unexpected mentor who remained surprisingly calm after losing over a million dollars in a business deal gone wrong. "Don't worry about it, God's got a better plan," the man told him. Though initially skeptical, those words planted seeds that would later transform Adam's entire approach to business and life.
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome to the Leader Impact Podcast.
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I'm your host, lisa Peters, andour guest today is Adam Babineau
.
Adam has been an entrepreneurin the real estate industry for
the last 20 years.
He began his career as alicensed realtor at the age of
19.
He got involved in thedevelopment and investment
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aspects of the industry shortlythereafter.
That career path led him downthe road of finding his faith,
as well as his wife.
Realizing that his life,including his business, are not
actually his, have been hisgreatest struggle and his
greatest joy.
He lives in Ottawa with hiswife and two teenage kids, and
still sells and invests in realestate today.
Welcome to the show, adam.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Thank you, I'm ready to go.
What an intro.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
How does one get involved in real estate at 19?
Yeah, great question.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I know it is and I'm really lucky that I found it
because I'm I'm prettyunemployable, Otherwise I don't
know what else I would do.
I was just going through thosethose questions that I guess
every young person is forced toanswer when it's time for them
to fly the coop.
And, yeah, I just wanted a pathwithout any actual limitations.
Maybe I had a lot of ego as a19 year old kid and just really
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didn't want to boss, so I wasjust wrestling through those
ideas and I'd like to take somecredit for it.
But I just had a literal dream.
Anybody that reads scriptureknows that God talks to you in
dreams.
It's kind of like one of hisfun things to do.
And I had a dream I went to bedone night and I was hosting
open houses and just talking topeople in a sales background,
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and I was going to university atthe time and just hating it.
And so, yeah, I dropped out,got my real estate license right
away.
It felt like something where itwas not more of an obsession,
but something was likepossessing me and drawing me
into that business.
It's a scarier word, possessionversus obsession but yeah, that
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was my path.
That's how I got into it.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Well, I'm excited to hear more about your
professional path.
I mean, that's what we're abouthearing a little bit of your
professional journey but really,did you have any pivotal
moments?
That's what we really want tohear, those pivotal moments
along that journey that got youhere today.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, that was definitely a big one.
So being called into the realestate business was definitely
the first one, and then I hadthe misfortune of becoming
successful at it.
Tony Robbins has a prettyinteresting quote where he says
that success without fulfillmentis the ultimate failure.
So I've always had a reallycurious spirit and that has
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served me really well.
But I've always needed tofigure things out and always
wanted to understand everything,and that has its own
limitations.
And so that curious spirit ledme to acquire a commercial real
estate property, and that's whenGod started to really hang me
with my own rope, so to speak.
And there's actually there's aquote by I think it's William
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Blake, where he says the path ofexcess leads to the palace of
wisdom.
I think I got that right andit's like I spent a lot of my
time turning over all of likethe experiential rocks in life
and it's like, okay, what about?
This is going to make me happy?
What about if I have that it'sgoing to make me happy?
And, uh, you get to a certainpoint where you you kind of get
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a little bit of despair in yoursoul, trying to figure out
what's going to satiate yourspirit.
And so that was a pivotalmoment where I kind of realized
that I was on the wrong path butdidn't know how to get back to
the right one.
And it was like I've, I checkedall the those boxes of the
material world and it was.
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It was a blessing.
And then, and then, a reallyhard curse to to deal with that
realization that I'm not beingfulfilled, like I'm an ultimate
failure.
Thinking that I'm not beingfulfilled Like I'm an ultimate
failure, I'm thinking that I've,I've got stuff, but not a soul.
It's.
It's pretty devastating.
So, coming out of thatexperience, I was, um, yeah,
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late twenties, I went through adivorce, uh, at a young age
because I was focusing on, uh,basically not going bankrupt as
a young person.
And I had met someone in myearly 20s and it was on a real
estate development deal and Iwas really broke at the time and
this whole deal kind of blew upin my face.
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And the guy that I was workingon as a client, he was just so
cool and calm and collected andhe wasn't phased by it and I
mean, this guy just lost over amillion bucks and I would have
had a few more words to say thanhe did and he just said, like
you know, it's, don't worryabout it, god's got a better
plan.
It wasn't my money to beginwith.
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He said something along thoselines and it just frustrated the
heck out of me and I'm like I,I need to know your caramel
secret of life.
Like I, I need to to have whatyou have.
And uh, I said I'm pretty sureit's religion.
He goes uh, actually I hatereligion but I love
relationships and I got a greatone with jesus.
Uh, come on over and talk.
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And uh, I heard him but Ididn't listen.
And uh, he planted some seedsin my mind but I still, I still
chased after the world prettyhard and yeah, found out, found
out it was quicksand.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, you know, you used, you used the word wrong
path and I, I, I don't.
Adam, if you look on your wholelife, I think everything fell
in line.
You know, if you think, becauseand it's funny, I'm just
reading a book I it's somethingabout God and his humor, his
humor with us.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
He's got a great one.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And it just talks about the disappointments and
they're part of our paths.
Right, it sucks when we're init.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Like I get it.
It's tough, it's terrible, yeah, yeah, you just you hit that
brick wall and you say whycouldn't I just learn things the
easy way?
You know I struggle with thisas a parent, especially with two
teenage kids.
Please, if anyone's listening,pray for me.
But they're, they're on a.
They're on a great path Atleast I think that they are but
I see them trying to have tolearn things the hard way.
It's like it's so much easier.
Just listen to your dad.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
She's like no, nah, I have to learn.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I'll do it the hard way, but it's it's the hard
lessons that that we tend to toremember Right, and so, yeah,
very, very stubborn,unfortunately, again very
capable.
It's kind of like our greateststrengths are often our greatest
weaknesses at the same time,like passionate person,
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passionate person competent with, with business and people, and
I can do things and it it can.
Uh, it's powerful, but anythingthat's powerful is also
inherently very dangerous.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, good, all right .
Uh, our next question is justabout your best principle of
success.
Obviously, you are still inreal estate today.
You're doing something right.
Um, if you have one, and justassure you a story that you can
share that illustrates that,yeah, yeah, I think the basic
fundamentals of our economy andwealth itself is actually the
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commodity of trust.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So a lot of people think it's like coffee or the
oil industry or something.
But if you actually look at Ithink it was Peterson that
helped me think about thisinitially, where he said if you
look at the country of Venezuelaand they have all these natural
resources, but everyone's broke, and then you compare that to a
country like Japan, that's asmall little island, they don't
have any natural resources, butthey trust each other.
If you don't have trust, youdon't have anything.
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Everyone knows that in like apersonal relationship or
marriage, for example, but it'strue in the economy as well too.
So if a prospect or a clientthey don't trust you, they're
not going to do business withyou.
So gaining someone's trust isvery, very valuable.
Breaking it is very painful andexpensive and you'll burn that
person in a relationship forever.
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I ended up getting remarried tomy wife now, who's an absolute
force.
Her nickname is the Machine.
She's in the same business as Iam and we have a very healthy,
friendly, competitive nature toour business as well.
In our lives it's fun.
We push each other, make eachother grow as people.
It's beautiful, but everyonewants to know what her secret is
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, and her secret is no secret.
She's just very, very good atbuilding relationships that are
based on trust with people.
We have a lot of different realestate agents come up to us and
ask, like, what tools do youuse and what systems do you use?
Like a lot of us, I'm veryguilty of this.
I want to know, like, what thatthing is, like what the silver
bullet or what the tool is.
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What do you do, instead offocusing on who we are and who
we're becoming, so that thesecret of success is definitely
building trust with people overtime.
Oh, pretty simple.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Well, I go right back to your example you used in the
last, in the last question,about the man that lost the
million dollars and he,obviously he trusted you and I
mean it didn't, it didn't endbad, but that's a million
dollars.
How can you trust someone withyour money, with your
investments?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
So you are pre COVID dollars to.
That was real money back in theday you know.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I mean we've talked about a few fears, failures.
We learn more from them.
We learn more from them.
We learn from our actualsuccesses.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So, if you're willing to share a greatest failure and
what, you learned from it, soexcited to share my greatest
failures publicly?
Every single mistake I've evermade has been me believing a lie
.
Everything comes down to somelevel of lie that I've bought
into, whether it is if I havethis business, if I make this,
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if I marry her, then I'll behappy, then I'll be fulfilled.
Thinking that my business isactually my own for a long time
is very deceptive.
My business is not my own.
My body's not my own.
My life is not my own.
We've got to give everythingback.
You know, you think of Job, oneof the most awesome statements
in human history, where he goes.
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You know, naked I've come intothis world naked.
I'm going to leave it.
Praise, praise God.
It's pretty epic Talk about aman who's been broken down or
that things are going to be ableto be the answer to a spiritual
question.
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I'm coming at a really bigexistential, transcendental
question of the meaning andpurpose of life and I'm trying
to pack it and fill this boat.
That looks like Swiss cheesefilled with sugar.
It's just not going to work.
Everyone's got a God-sized holein their heart and thinking
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that stuff's going to fill it'sjust a disaster.
So I mean, I think of the, thescripture of like, from
everything that we do comes fromour heart.
Um, it really does the storyand the message of christ really
should.
It really has transformed, uh,me and us as people, if we take
it seriously.
So it's changed my business.
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It's helped me actually becomea leader, like a servant leader.
It's very important.
But I made tons of thosemistakes.
I mean there's just too manylittle practical examples to
give, but just the overarchingtheme of going down the wrong
path, thinking that stuff's mine, led me to my biggest mistakes.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, how did you when you talked earlier in
believing a lie?
How do you know when you're init?
How do you know when you'rebelieving?
I'm just, I'm thinking peopleare listening and going, but how
do you know when it's?
If I do, and maybe it's the,when you say, if that, then
that's probably a lie.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, whenever, uh, whenever I catch myself grabbing
something like the oldest storyof time right, like you grabbed
the forbidden fruit, um,anytime I'm looking for
something outside of myself, uh,for fulfillment or an answer,
or an answer I'm already on thewrong path.
It's just so comfortable for usto stay on the wrong path.
I think we underestimate thepain and the difficulty of
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repentance.
I mean, it's an incredible giftthe fact that we can repent and
to turn to a source of goodnessis the best gift that we can
possibly have, the greatestblessing and joy.
But it's so detriment, likepsychologically damaging, to
reorient your life so torecognize that you're on a path
like that the personaldevelopment community loves
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breaching on this, likeawareness is the first step, um,
and but it usually leads youdown a path of trying to make
more money, um, so that thatstep of awareness, money, so
that step of awareness.
I don't even know what is goodfor me.
Having the spirit of humility torecognize I'm not wise in my
own eyes, lean not on my ownunderstanding, just being able
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to ask God in the first place ofwhat he wants me to do or to go
and what to do, what to saylike, just continue continuously
submitting to the right path.
If I don't do it, I know thatI'm going to end up on the wrong
path.
Like it's pretty it's.
It's called the wide path ofdestruction.
For a reason it's a very wideone and it's a very narrow one
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that that path of life.
But it's it's the same spiritthat led me to get into the
business in the first place.
It's the same spirit that ledme to ask those questions and to
get back onto it in the firstplace.
It's it's just seeking firstthe kingdom of God.
I suppose I don't know ifthat's enough scripture
references for one littleparagraph, but that's a great
question.
Like, how do you know you're onthe wrong path?
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And I think it's pretty safe toassume that if we're not
seeking God, we're already onthe wrong path.
Like we're.
It's a default setting forhumanity is to be on the wrong
path.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, you touched a little bit on the practical sort
of how you see spiritual inyour practical life, if that
makes sense.
But at Leader Impact we'reabout personal, professional and
spiritual for increasing impact.
So I'm wondering if you canshare another example of how
you're actually, how thespiritual makes a practical
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difference in your life.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
So that guy that I nicknamed him the oak tree
because he's got some prettyserious roots, the guy that lost
a bunch of money and told meabout Jesus back in the day
Shout out to Clyde, if you'relistening.
We started a Bible study just acouple of years ago again, um,
and there was, there was onlylike two or three of us.
Now there's 30 guys meeting inhis living room.
So I'm still, I'm still talkingto him.
It's pretty cool.
Um, he he had something.
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He went to Dallas seminary and,uh, most people get into like a
professional vocation ofministry at that point.
And he actually got into theconstruction business and he had
this uh prof come up to him andsay, okay, well, like where are
you going to go?
What are you going to do?
What church are you going to goand apply for?
And he said I'm getting intoconstruction.
And the guy like looked at himwith a bit of judgment and goes
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like shook his head and walkedaway.
And uh, he was just sittingthere alone, um, just praying
for a minute, and he goes youknow what?
We're all in the ministry.
Like every single one of us isin the ministry.
So if I continuously go back tothat narrow path of having this
not be my business.
If God wants me to speak with10 people today for clients, if
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I'm not looking at them fortheir best interests, ultimately
and spiritually, there's nopoint.
I can sell people a bunch ofhouses and it's like the two
questions that will keep me upat night, or the two questions
from before, which is then whatLike?
What's next?
What's next, what's next,what's next?
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There's a lot of clients thatwe actually don't sell homes to.
We don't put them into a rightinvestment deal because it's
just not what's best for them.
So I'll actually try to notsell them things.
I'll steer them away from a lotof different deals that just
aren't good for them and that,honestly, I'd like to say that
that comes naturally to me.
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It's it's from a more of a lot,more of a completely a
supernatural setting, like whatis actually best for this person
in their lives, and if it's atthe expense of our business,
then that's great.
I think, like if we were tosummarize it in a really black
and white terms it's we lovepeople and not money, and a lot
of businesses, like you know,especially in a really black and
white terms, it's we lovepeople and not money.
And a lot of businesses,especially in a corporate
setting, it's profit driven.
They love profits more thanpeople.
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There's no shortage of exampleswith those.
But for us, if we can just keepon loving God and loving people
you can't separate the twoWe'll be fine.
Actually, I love Seth Godden.
He's a writer, a big timeblogger.
He's got a great, great trackrecord with blogging.
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One of the things that he saysabout money is that everyone
needs rice and beans.
You've got the basicfundamentals for finances that
you need Anything beyond riceand beans.
It becomes a story that we tellourselves.
For me, I was actually veryafraid of financial abundance
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and economic prosperity after Ireally started following Christ.
As I said before, anythingthat's powerful is inherently
dangerous and money is one ofthose things.
Money really doesn't care.
It doesn't care where it goes,it's just money, um.
But what we do with it is veryrevealing and the character that
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we have it.
It really amplifies our innercharacter.
That's what it does and that'sdangerous and powerful.
So, getting to a point ofrealizing that I'm just a
steward and a managertemporarily of stuff, I've
allowed myself to step in to theidea that all of this isn't
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mine, and that's my new storywhere I'm not, I'm not thinking
that it's mine and it's for me.
And then the second part of itwas that I'm afraid to that it's
mine and it's for me.
And then the second part of itwas that I'm afraid to manage
more of it because I don't wantit to corrupt myself.
And now to have more of acomfortable foundation in my
faith where it's not going toruin my soul, to be allowed to
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be a blessing to other people.
That's where I'm at now.
It's not my business and Imight as well really get after
it for the sake of other people.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, so, um, you talked about.
You just mentioned aboutfollowing, following Christ.
Was Clyde part of that decisionfor you?
Or when, when did you like ordid you grow up in faith, or was
it?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
No, okay, that's a hard no, that's probably the
easiest question I'll have.
Uh, no, I was raised by acouple of hippies and uh, they
were you know, god love them uh,just very misguided and looking
for love in all the wrongplaces.
And the hippie movement, I mean, it's like it's very easy for
us to worship our own emotions.
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You know, if something feelsgood or if some like trust your
heart, you know, like, go fallin love a thousand times.
It's, it's just there's no suchthing as as free love.
Love is very expensive.
God is love.
It's sacrificial in nature.
So, no, I was not raised by anytype of religious or spiritual.
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Well, I guess it would bespiritual, but definitely not a
Christian background.
So, yeah, I met Clyde.
He had a really profound impacton me and that kind of cracked
open my mind and left me I'llcall it like god curious.
And then there's I.
I made the mistake I think a lotof christians make this mistake
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too like differentiatingbetween salvation and
sanctification.
Um, like whenever I would makea mistake after I got saved,
like, okay, this is it.
I'm actually gonna like put myfaith and I'm betting everything
, not on red, I'm bettingeverything on on Jesus, on this
for my soul, right, like that'sstep one, my salvation sealed.
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But then, if I'd make a mistake, I'm like, did I really do that
?
Do I really mean it?
Like hemming and hawing andlike, uh, like it's a dangerous
place to be.
It's very disempowering thinkingthat it's up to me when it's
already finished and it'stotally complete forever, but
then that the there's a reallybig difference between being
saved and not, and a really bigdifference of making Jesus the
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God of your life every day.
And I think the like the mostunhappy people, um, the most
painful experiences that I'veactually had were not as a lost
person.
They were as someone who istrying to be a Christian but is
still driving their own busbecause you know you're on the
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wrong path but you're notsubmitting to it.
It's very painful.
You're living with thissheathing, pain in your soul
when you've got a consciencethat's awake and it's pulling
you in the opposite directionand you're not listening.
So yeah that process took me awhile.
I'm very going back to.
Our greatest strengths areoften our biggest weaknesses.
I'm stubborn.
I'm very going back to, likethe our greatest strengths are
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often our biggest weaknesses.
Like I'm stubborn, I'm curiousand I wanted to figure out
everything.
Like I love knowing things andfiguring things out, and so now
I'm actually trying to just dumbit down.
I'm just trying to enjoy God,like in the little things and
and uh, and just to enjoygoodness in the little moments,
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instead of like the bigmountaintops all the time, or
the next thing, or what aboutthis and what about that?
Like trying, just trying to fixmy every problem that comes my
way to my own satisfaction, youknow.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
So, yeah, just just enjoying God in the little
moments has been a journey uh,well then, big shout out to
Clyde, because I think I thinkin everybody's life, um well it,
we there's one person, there'smany people that drip on you,
but there's that one personthat's sort of you know, you
didn't, you didn't realize theother people that were probably
coming in and out of your lifewith, maybe, messages of God,
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but then all of a sudden, clyde,he was the one, and I think we
I have to remember that that Imay not be that person, but I
was maybe one of those littledrips that you know made them
think what, what, you know, whatis it?
What does she have?
Okay, you know she has herfaith.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
So yeah, that's very encouraging and it's really
healthy to hear that too.
Like I've struggled, like, oh,I want to be, I want to be
useful for God.
It's an amazing feeling, right.
But I always want to be likethe Clyde in everyone's lives,
instead of just being entrustedto be a little source of
goodness and leave the resultsto God.
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Yeah, good.
And you look back on it too andyou see all the little dots
that connect in your life andlike, oh yeah, he was always
there.
Yes, Whether or not, I waspaying attention.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, good point.
So at Leader Impact, we arededicated to leaders having the
lasting impact.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So I'm wondering, as you continue through this
amazing journey that you've justshared, have you considered
what you want your faith legacyto be when you leave this world?
Yeah, that's a little question.
I'm really not motivated abouta legacy on earth.
I mean, I think if I actuallyhave a legacy on earth, I'd
probably fail as a person, whichmight sound weird, but like I
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definitely don't want a hockeyrink named after me or something
weird like that.
I just want to grow heavenbefore I get there.
I think having like a reallysimple mission statement in life
that's my ultimate driver isreally important.
I think simplicity and claritybreeds strength and power.
So that's kind of our familymotto, like help us grow heaven
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before we get there.
I was really obsessed with like,oh, what does heaven look like?
And when there's streets pavedwith gold and everything else,
you know, and uh, I just I'mreally looking forward to
hanging out having breakfast onthe beach with Jesus frying up
some fish, you know, like Idon't even care if the sun's
really hot and I'm getting a tan, I don't care, it's just the
people that are there, therelationships that are there.
I'm looking forward to what'snext and, yeah, just being a
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part of that goodness of beingable to grow heaven before I get
there and I tell my kids that,and sometimes they roll my eyes
with their eyes, with how cornyit is, you know like, oh, come
on, dad, but it's true that'sthe ultimate legacy is to store
up treasures in heaven and tounpack those Christmas gifts
under the tree of heaven.
Right, that's going to be fun.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I wrote that down Help us grow heaven before we
get there.
That is brilliant.
Thanks for sharing that.
Yeah, now I know in your bioyou said realizing that your
life, including your business,is not actually his has been
your greatest struggle and yourgreatest joy.
So I'm going to ask you aboutyour greatest joy.
That was one of my questions,but I don't know.
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Maybe you answered it, but I'lllet you.
What is your greatest joy?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, sure, um, I think Jesus ruins everything.
Uh, I mean that literally likeeverything, you know, he, he
rips away our little goldencalves and it's uh, he is that
cornerstone that we buttressagainst.
So once you get a taste, youknow like you've tasted, you've
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seen that God is good it'sreally hard to go back and try
and get joys in other places,but the Christian journey has
really allowed my, my heart andmy mind to experience greater
levels of joy in the littlemoments.
Um, like we were just talkingbefore, before this kicked off,
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that I was, I was skiing with mykids, you know, and before I'd
I'd have a much greater tendencyto take things for granted, um,
whereas this time it was.
Like man, this is a window oftime and opportunity into
creation to play in nature, likeas this gift that God's given
me today, with my kids and I'min this amazing place in Western
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Canada, and it was unbelievable.
It was a very, very gratefultime and moment memory in my
life that I was able to reallycherish a lot more.
So, I mean, I love going on themissions trips with Leader,
impact and Global Exchange and,like those mountaintop moments,
you know, it feels like we'redefeating Goliath with our
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slingshot Like it's epic, it'sso much fun, it's dopaminergic.
It feels like it's made for me.
Fun, it's dopaminergic, itfeels like it's made for me.
But when I realize that I'mmade for god, um, being able to
hang out and be a shepherd boyin the, in the fields, is, you
know, that's being able toconnect with god in, in nature
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in little moments, um, whetherI'm in my truck, whether I'm
listening to music, whether I'mcleaning my kitchen, like being
able to experience goodness.
There's one scripture comes tomind in Corinthians I think it's
chapter 10, where it's like,whether you eat or drink,
whatever you do, do it for theglory of God.
Like, in the littlest, tiniestmoments, being able to unpack
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that joy in your heart, like Idon't need it to be conditional
upon an experience anymore.
That's pretty cool.
It makes me think of our faithleader, of, of Paul, where he's
in a like chain to a prisonfloor and he says I can do
anything.
Like God's given me strengthfor I can do all things through
God.
He gives me strength and he'she's about to have his head cut
off.
Like that type, that type ofstrength, like it's.
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It's a joy you can't explain.
No, so it's pretty cool, um,yeah, being able just to, to
know where I'm going when thisplace ends, when my body ends
pretty amazing source of peace,very grateful.
Feels like I won lottery ticketin life, you know, like that
scene in indiana j the end he'slike he's, he's grabbing the
little treasure.
It feels, feels like I got it.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Good, oh, adam, this has been a fun half hour.
I want to thank you for joiningus.
I I feel like I show up.
I mean I show up here not onlyjust as a host, but I show up
because all my guests are justlittle drips into my life of
just staying on the path,staying faithful.
So thank you for just sharingyour story.
(28:49):
If people want to find you,connect with you, what's the
best place?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, if anyone wants to connect with me I guess just
by email atadamottawarealestatecom.
Not super big into social media.
Okay, adam, at ottawarealestestatecom.
I'm not super big into socialmedia.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So okay, adam at Ottawa real estatecom.
So is that the name of your?
What's the name of your company?
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I work with Remax.
I've got an investment anddevelopment gig on the side, but
that's it's not public, it'sjust all right, it's smaller.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yeah, All right.
Well, Adam, thank you forjoining us.
It has been a joy.
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I'm your host, lisa Peters, andour guest today is Adam Babineau
.
Adam has been an entrepreneurin the real estate industry for
the last 20 years.
He began his career as alicensed realtor at the age of
19.
He got involved in thedevelopment and investment
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aspects of the industry shortlythereafter.
That career path led him downthe road of finding his faith,
as well as his wife.
Realizing that his life,including his business, are not
actually his, have been hisgreatest struggle and his
greatest joy.
He lives in Ottawa with hiswife and two teenage kids, and
still sells and invests in realestate today.
Welcome to the show, adam.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Thank you, I'm ready to go.
What an intro.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
How does one get involved in real estate at 19?
Yeah, great question.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I know it is and I'm really lucky that I found it
because I'm I'm prettyunemployable, Otherwise I don't
know what else I would do.
I was just going through thosethose questions that I guess
every young person is forced toanswer when it's time for them
to fly the coop.
And, yeah, I just wanted a pathwithout any actual limitations.
Maybe I had a lot of ego as a19 year old kid and just really
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didn't want to boss, so I wasjust wrestling through those
ideas and I'd like to take somecredit for it.
But I just had a literal dream.
Anybody that reads scriptureknows that God talks to you in
dreams.
It's kind of like one of hisfun things to do.
And I had a dream I went to bedone night and I was hosting
open houses and just talking topeople in a sales background,
(02:06):
and I was going to university atthe time and just hating it.
And so, yeah, I dropped out,got my real estate license right
away.
It felt like something where itwas not more of an obsession,
but something was likepossessing me and drawing me
into that business.
It's a scarier word, possessionversus obsession but yeah, that
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was my path.
That's how I got into it.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Well, I'm excited to hear more about your
professional path.
I mean, that's what we're abouthearing a little bit of your
professional journey but really,did you have any pivotal
moments?
That's what we really want tohear, those pivotal moments
along that journey that got youhere today.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, that was definitely a big one.
So being called into the realestate business was definitely
the first one, and then I hadthe misfortune of becoming
successful at it.
Tony Robbins has a prettyinteresting quote where he says
that success without fulfillmentis the ultimate failure.
So I've always had a reallycurious spirit and that has
(03:06):
served me really well.
But I've always needed tofigure things out and always
wanted to understand everything,and that has its own
limitations.
And so that curious spirit ledme to acquire a commercial real
estate property, and that's whenGod started to really hang me
with my own rope, so to speak.
And there's actually there's aquote by I think it's William
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Blake, where he says the path ofexcess leads to the palace of
wisdom.
I think I got that right andit's like I spent a lot of my
time turning over all of likethe experiential rocks in life
and it's like, okay, what about?
This is going to make me happy?
What about if I have that it'sgoing to make me happy?
And, uh, you get to a certainpoint where you you kind of get
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a little bit of despair in yoursoul, trying to figure out
what's going to satiate yourspirit.
And so that was a pivotalmoment where I kind of realized
that I was on the wrong path butdidn't know how to get back to
the right one.
And it was like I've, I checkedall the those boxes of the
material world and it was.
(04:13):
It was a blessing.
And then, and then, a reallyhard curse to to deal with that
realization that I'm not beingfulfilled, like I'm an ultimate
failure.
Thinking that I'm not beingfulfilled Like I'm an ultimate
failure, I'm thinking that I've,I've got stuff, but not a soul.
It's.
It's pretty devastating.
So, coming out of thatexperience, I was, um, yeah,
(04:36):
late twenties, I went through adivorce, uh, at a young age
because I was focusing on, uh,basically not going bankrupt as
a young person.
And I had met someone in myearly 20s and it was on a real
estate development deal and Iwas really broke at the time and
this whole deal kind of blew upin my face.
(04:57):
And the guy that I was workingon as a client, he was just so
cool and calm and collected andhe wasn't phased by it and I
mean, this guy just lost over amillion bucks and I would have
had a few more words to say thanhe did and he just said, like
you know, it's, don't worryabout it, god's got a better
plan.
It wasn't my money to beginwith.
(05:17):
He said something along thoselines and it just frustrated the
heck out of me and I'm like I,I need to know your caramel
secret of life.
Like I, I need to to have whatyou have.
And uh, I said I'm pretty sureit's religion.
He goes uh, actually I hatereligion but I love
relationships and I got a greatone with jesus.
Uh, come on over and talk.
(05:39):
And uh, I heard him but Ididn't listen.
And uh, he planted some seedsin my mind but I still, I still
chased after the world prettyhard and yeah, found out, found
out it was quicksand.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, you know, you used, you used the word wrong
path and I, I, I don't.
Adam, if you look on your wholelife, I think everything fell
in line.
You know, if you think, becauseand it's funny, I'm just
reading a book I it's somethingabout God and his humor, his
humor with us.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
He's got a great one.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And it just talks about the disappointments and
they're part of our paths.
Right, it sucks when we're init.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Like I get it.
It's tough, it's terrible, yeah, yeah, you just you hit that
brick wall and you say whycouldn't I just learn things the
easy way?
You know I struggle with thisas a parent, especially with two
teenage kids.
Please, if anyone's listening,pray for me.
But they're, they're on a.
They're on a great path Atleast I think that they are but
I see them trying to have tolearn things the hard way.
It's like it's so much easier.
Just listen to your dad.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
She's like no, nah, I have to learn.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I'll do it the hard way, but it's it's the hard
lessons that that we tend to toremember Right, and so, yeah,
very, very stubborn,unfortunately, again very
capable.
It's kind of like our greateststrengths are often our greatest
weaknesses at the same time,like passionate person,
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passionate person competent with, with business and people, and
I can do things and it it can.
Uh, it's powerful, but anythingthat's powerful is also
inherently very dangerous.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, good, all right .
Uh, our next question is justabout your best principle of
success.
Obviously, you are still inreal estate today.
You're doing something right.
Um, if you have one, and justassure you a story that you can
share that illustrates that,yeah, yeah, I think the basic
fundamentals of our economy andwealth itself is actually the
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commodity of trust.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So a lot of people think it's like coffee or the
oil industry or something.
But if you actually look at Ithink it was Peterson that
helped me think about thisinitially, where he said if you
look at the country of Venezuelaand they have all these natural
resources, but everyone's broke, and then you compare that to a
country like Japan, that's asmall little island, they don't
have any natural resources, butthey trust each other.
If you don't have trust, youdon't have anything.
(07:56):
Everyone knows that in like apersonal relationship or
marriage, for example, but it'strue in the economy as well too.
So if a prospect or a clientthey don't trust you, they're
not going to do business withyou.
So gaining someone's trust isvery, very valuable.
Breaking it is very painful andexpensive and you'll burn that
person in a relationship forever.
(08:18):
I ended up getting remarried tomy wife now, who's an absolute
force.
Her nickname is the Machine.
She's in the same business as Iam and we have a very healthy,
friendly, competitive nature toour business as well.
In our lives it's fun.
We push each other, make eachother grow as people.
It's beautiful, but everyonewants to know what her secret is
(08:40):
, and her secret is no secret.
She's just very, very good atbuilding relationships that are
based on trust with people.
We have a lot of different realestate agents come up to us and
ask, like, what tools do youuse and what systems do you use?
Like a lot of us, I'm veryguilty of this.
I want to know, like, what thatthing is, like what the silver
bullet or what the tool is.
(09:01):
What do you do, instead offocusing on who we are and who
we're becoming, so that thesecret of success is definitely
building trust with people overtime.
Oh, pretty simple.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Well, I go right back to your example you used in the
last, in the last question,about the man that lost the
million dollars and he,obviously he trusted you and I
mean it didn't, it didn't endbad, but that's a million
dollars.
How can you trust someone withyour money, with your
investments?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
So you are pre COVID dollars to.
That was real money back in theday you know.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I mean we've talked about a few fears, failures.
We learn more from them.
We learn more from them.
We learn from our actualsuccesses.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So, if you're willing to share a greatest failure and
what, you learned from it, soexcited to share my greatest
failures publicly?
Every single mistake I've evermade has been me believing a lie
.
Everything comes down to somelevel of lie that I've bought
into, whether it is if I havethis business, if I make this,
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if I marry her, then I'll behappy, then I'll be fulfilled.
Thinking that my business isactually my own for a long time
is very deceptive.
My business is not my own.
My body's not my own.
My life is not my own.
We've got to give everythingback.
You know, you think of Job, oneof the most awesome statements
in human history, where he goes.
(10:32):
You know, naked I've come intothis world naked.
I'm going to leave it.
Praise, praise God.
It's pretty epic Talk about aman who's been broken down or
that things are going to be ableto be the answer to a spiritual
question.
(10:54):
I'm coming at a really bigexistential, transcendental
question of the meaning andpurpose of life and I'm trying
to pack it and fill this boat.
That looks like Swiss cheesefilled with sugar.
It's just not going to work.
Everyone's got a God-sized holein their heart and thinking
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that stuff's going to fill it'sjust a disaster.
So I mean, I think of the, thescripture of like, from
everything that we do comes fromour heart.
Um, it really does the storyand the message of christ really
should.
It really has transformed, uh,me and us as people, if we take
it seriously.
So it's changed my business.
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It's helped me actually becomea leader, like a servant leader.
It's very important.
But I made tons of thosemistakes.
I mean there's just too manylittle practical examples to
give, but just the overarchingtheme of going down the wrong
path, thinking that stuff's mine, led me to my biggest mistakes.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, how did you when you talked earlier in
believing a lie?
How do you know when you're init?
How do you know when you'rebelieving?
I'm just, I'm thinking peopleare listening and going, but how
do you know when it's?
If I do, and maybe it's the,when you say, if that, then
that's probably a lie.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, whenever, uh, whenever I catch myself grabbing
something like the oldest storyof time right, like you grabbed
the forbidden fruit, um,anytime I'm looking for
something outside of myself, uh,for fulfillment or an answer,
or an answer I'm already on thewrong path.
It's just so comfortable for usto stay on the wrong path.
I think we underestimate thepain and the difficulty of
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repentance.
I mean, it's an incredible giftthe fact that we can repent and
to turn to a source of goodnessis the best gift that we can
possibly have, the greatestblessing and joy.
But it's so detriment, likepsychologically damaging, to
reorient your life so torecognize that you're on a path
like that the personaldevelopment community loves
(13:03):
breaching on this, likeawareness is the first step, um,
and but it usually leads youdown a path of trying to make
more money, um, so that thatstep of awareness, money, so
that step of awareness.
I don't even know what is goodfor me.
Having the spirit of humility torecognize I'm not wise in my
own eyes, lean not on my ownunderstanding, just being able
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to ask God in the first place ofwhat he wants me to do or to go
and what to do, what to saylike, just continue continuously
submitting to the right path.
If I don't do it, I know thatI'm going to end up on the wrong
path.
Like it's pretty it's.
It's called the wide path ofdestruction.
For a reason it's a very wideone and it's a very narrow one
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that that path of life.
But it's it's the same spiritthat led me to get into the
business in the first place.
It's the same spirit that ledme to ask those questions and to
get back onto it in the firstplace.
It's it's just seeking firstthe kingdom of God.
I suppose I don't know ifthat's enough scripture
references for one littleparagraph, but that's a great
question.
Like, how do you know you're onthe wrong path?
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And I think it's pretty safe toassume that if we're not
seeking God, we're already onthe wrong path.
Like we're.
It's a default setting forhumanity is to be on the wrong
path.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, you touched a little bit on the practical sort
of how you see spiritual inyour practical life, if that
makes sense.
But at Leader Impact we'reabout personal, professional and
spiritual for increasing impact.
So I'm wondering if you canshare another example of how
you're actually, how thespiritual makes a practical
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difference in your life.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
So that guy that I nicknamed him the oak tree
because he's got some prettyserious roots, the guy that lost
a bunch of money and told meabout Jesus back in the day
Shout out to Clyde, if you'relistening.
We started a Bible study just acouple of years ago again, um,
and there was, there was onlylike two or three of us.
Now there's 30 guys meeting inhis living room.
So I'm still, I'm still talkingto him.
It's pretty cool.
Um, he he had something.
(15:04):
He went to Dallas seminary and,uh, most people get into like a
professional vocation ofministry at that point.
And he actually got into theconstruction business and he had
this uh prof come up to him andsay, okay, well, like where are
you going to go?
What are you going to do?
What church are you going to goand apply for?
And he said I'm getting intoconstruction.
And the guy like looked at himwith a bit of judgment and goes
(15:27):
like shook his head and walkedaway.
And uh, he was just sittingthere alone, um, just praying
for a minute, and he goes youknow what?
We're all in the ministry.
Like every single one of us isin the ministry.
So if I continuously go back tothat narrow path of having this
not be my business.
If God wants me to speak with10 people today for clients, if
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I'm not looking at them fortheir best interests, ultimately
and spiritually, there's nopoint.
I can sell people a bunch ofhouses and it's like the two
questions that will keep me upat night, or the two questions
from before, which is then whatLike?
What's next?
What's next, what's next,what's next?
(16:13):
There's a lot of clients thatwe actually don't sell homes to.
We don't put them into a rightinvestment deal because it's
just not what's best for them.
So I'll actually try to notsell them things.
I'll steer them away from a lotof different deals that just
aren't good for them and that,honestly, I'd like to say that
that comes naturally to me.
(16:39):
It's it's from a more of a lot,more of a completely a
supernatural setting, like whatis actually best for this person
in their lives, and if it's atthe expense of our business,
then that's great.
I think, like if we were tosummarize it in a really black
and white terms it's we lovepeople and not money, and a lot
of businesses, like you know,especially in a really black and
white terms, it's we lovepeople and not money.
And a lot of businesses,especially in a corporate
setting, it's profit driven.
They love profits more thanpeople.
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There's no shortage of exampleswith those.
But for us, if we can just keepon loving God and loving people
you can't separate the twoWe'll be fine.
Actually, I love Seth Godden.
He's a writer, a big timeblogger.
He's got a great, great trackrecord with blogging.
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One of the things that he saysabout money is that everyone
needs rice and beans.
You've got the basicfundamentals for finances that
you need Anything beyond riceand beans.
It becomes a story that we tellourselves.
For me, I was actually veryafraid of financial abundance
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and economic prosperity after Ireally started following Christ.
As I said before, anythingthat's powerful is inherently
dangerous and money is one ofthose things.
Money really doesn't care.
It doesn't care where it goes,it's just money, um.
But what we do with it is veryrevealing and the character that
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we have it.
It really amplifies our innercharacter.
That's what it does and that'sdangerous and powerful.
So, getting to a point ofrealizing that I'm just a
steward and a managertemporarily of stuff, I've
allowed myself to step in to theidea that all of this isn't
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mine, and that's my new storywhere I'm not, I'm not thinking
that it's mine and it's for me.
And then the second part of itwas that I'm afraid to that it's
mine and it's for me.
And then the second part of itwas that I'm afraid to manage
more of it because I don't wantit to corrupt myself.
And now to have more of acomfortable foundation in my
faith where it's not going toruin my soul, to be allowed to
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be a blessing to other people.
That's where I'm at now.
It's not my business and Imight as well really get after
it for the sake of other people.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, so, um, you talked about.
You just mentioned aboutfollowing, following Christ.
Was Clyde part of that decisionfor you?
Or when, when did you like ordid you grow up in faith, or was
it?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
No, okay, that's a hard no, that's probably the
easiest question I'll have.
Uh, no, I was raised by acouple of hippies and uh, they
were you know, god love them uh,just very misguided and looking
for love in all the wrongplaces.
And the hippie movement, I mean, it's like it's very easy for
us to worship our own emotions.
(19:31):
You know, if something feelsgood or if some like trust your
heart, you know, like, go fallin love a thousand times.
It's, it's just there's no suchthing as as free love.
Love is very expensive.
God is love.
It's sacrificial in nature.
So, no, I was not raised by anytype of religious or spiritual.
(19:57):
Well, I guess it would bespiritual, but definitely not a
Christian background.
So, yeah, I met Clyde.
He had a really profound impacton me and that kind of cracked
open my mind and left me I'llcall it like god curious.
And then there's I.
I made the mistake I think a lotof christians make this mistake
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too like differentiatingbetween salvation and
sanctification.
Um, like whenever I would makea mistake after I got saved,
like, okay, this is it.
I'm actually gonna like put myfaith and I'm betting everything
, not on red, I'm bettingeverything on on Jesus, on this
for my soul, right, like that'sstep one, my salvation sealed.
(20:40):
But then, if I'd make a mistake, I'm like, did I really do that
?
Do I really mean it?
Like hemming and hawing andlike, uh, like it's a dangerous
place to be.
It's very disempowering thinkingthat it's up to me when it's
already finished and it'stotally complete forever, but
then that the there's a reallybig difference between being
saved and not, and a really bigdifference of making Jesus the
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God of your life every day.
And I think the like the mostunhappy people, um, the most
painful experiences that I'veactually had were not as a lost
person.
They were as someone who istrying to be a Christian but is
still driving their own busbecause you know you're on the
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wrong path but you're notsubmitting to it.
It's very painful.
You're living with thissheathing, pain in your soul
when you've got a consciencethat's awake and it's pulling
you in the opposite directionand you're not listening.
So yeah that process took me awhile.
I'm very going back to.
Our greatest strengths areoften our biggest weaknesses.
I'm stubborn.
I'm very going back to, likethe our greatest strengths are
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often our biggest weaknesses.
Like I'm stubborn, I'm curiousand I wanted to figure out
everything.
Like I love knowing things andfiguring things out, and so now
I'm actually trying to just dumbit down.
I'm just trying to enjoy God,like in the little things and
and uh, and just to enjoygoodness in the little moments,
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instead of like the bigmountaintops all the time, or
the next thing, or what aboutthis and what about that?
Like trying, just trying to fixmy every problem that comes my
way to my own satisfaction, youknow.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
So, yeah, just just enjoying God in the little
moments has been a journey uh,well then, big shout out to
Clyde, because I think I thinkin everybody's life, um well it,
we there's one person, there'smany people that drip on you,
but there's that one personthat's sort of you know, you
didn't, you didn't realize theother people that were probably
coming in and out of your lifewith, maybe, messages of God,
(22:44):
but then all of a sudden, clyde,he was the one, and I think we
I have to remember that that Imay not be that person, but I
was maybe one of those littledrips that you know made them
think what, what, you know, whatis it?
What does she have?
Okay, you know she has herfaith.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
So yeah, that's very encouraging and it's really
healthy to hear that too.
Like I've struggled, like, oh,I want to be, I want to be
useful for God.
It's an amazing feeling, right.
But I always want to be likethe Clyde in everyone's lives,
instead of just being entrustedto be a little source of
goodness and leave the resultsto God.
(23:23):
Yeah, good.
And you look back on it too andyou see all the little dots
that connect in your life andlike, oh yeah, he was always
there.
Yes, Whether or not, I waspaying attention.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, good point.
So at Leader Impact, we arededicated to leaders having the
lasting impact.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So I'm wondering, as you continue through this
amazing journey that you've justshared, have you considered
what you want your faith legacyto be when you leave this world?
Yeah, that's a little question.
I'm really not motivated abouta legacy on earth.
I mean, I think if I actuallyhave a legacy on earth, I'd
probably fail as a person, whichmight sound weird, but like I
(24:01):
definitely don't want a hockeyrink named after me or something
weird like that.
I just want to grow heavenbefore I get there.
I think having like a reallysimple mission statement in life
that's my ultimate driver isreally important.
I think simplicity and claritybreeds strength and power.
So that's kind of our familymotto, like help us grow heaven
(24:22):
before we get there.
I was really obsessed with like,oh, what does heaven look like?
And when there's streets pavedwith gold and everything else,
you know, and uh, I just I'mreally looking forward to
hanging out having breakfast onthe beach with Jesus frying up
some fish, you know, like Idon't even care if the sun's
really hot and I'm getting a tan, I don't care, it's just the
people that are there, therelationships that are there.
I'm looking forward to what'snext and, yeah, just being a
(24:46):
part of that goodness of beingable to grow heaven before I get
there and I tell my kids that,and sometimes they roll my eyes
with their eyes, with how cornyit is, you know like, oh, come
on, dad, but it's true that'sthe ultimate legacy is to store
up treasures in heaven and tounpack those Christmas gifts
under the tree of heaven.
Right, that's going to be fun.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I wrote that down Help us grow heaven before we
get there.
That is brilliant.
Thanks for sharing that.
Yeah, now I know in your bioyou said realizing that your
life, including your business,is not actually his has been
your greatest struggle and yourgreatest joy.
So I'm going to ask you aboutyour greatest joy.
That was one of my questions,but I don't know.
(25:27):
Maybe you answered it, but I'lllet you.
What is your greatest joy?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, sure, um, I think Jesus ruins everything.
Uh, I mean that literally likeeverything, you know, he, he
rips away our little goldencalves and it's uh, he is that
cornerstone that we buttressagainst.
So once you get a taste, youknow like you've tasted, you've
(25:52):
seen that God is good it'sreally hard to go back and try
and get joys in other places,but the Christian journey has
really allowed my, my heart andmy mind to experience greater
levels of joy in the littlemoments.
Um, like we were just talkingbefore, before this kicked off,
(26:14):
that I was, I was skiing with mykids, you know, and before I'd
I'd have a much greater tendencyto take things for granted, um,
whereas this time it was.
Like man, this is a window oftime and opportunity into
creation to play in nature, likeas this gift that God's given
me today, with my kids and I'min this amazing place in Western
(26:37):
Canada, and it was unbelievable.
It was a very, very gratefultime and moment memory in my
life that I was able to reallycherish a lot more.
So, I mean, I love going on themissions trips with Leader,
impact and Global Exchange and,like those mountaintop moments,
you know, it feels like we'redefeating Goliath with our
(26:58):
slingshot Like it's epic, it'sso much fun, it's dopaminergic.
It feels like it's made for me.
Fun, it's dopaminergic, itfeels like it's made for me.
But when I realize that I'mmade for god, um, being able to
hang out and be a shepherd boyin the, in the fields, is, you
know, that's being able toconnect with god in, in nature
(27:21):
in little moments, um, whetherI'm in my truck, whether I'm
listening to music, whether I'mcleaning my kitchen, like being
able to experience goodness.
There's one scripture comes tomind in Corinthians I think it's
chapter 10, where it's like,whether you eat or drink,
whatever you do, do it for theglory of God.
Like, in the littlest, tiniestmoments, being able to unpack
(27:43):
that joy in your heart, like Idon't need it to be conditional
upon an experience anymore.
That's pretty cool.
It makes me think of our faithleader, of, of Paul, where he's
in a like chain to a prisonfloor and he says I can do
anything.
Like God's given me strengthfor I can do all things through
God.
He gives me strength and he'she's about to have his head cut
off.
Like that type, that type ofstrength, like it's.
(28:06):
It's a joy you can't explain.
No, so it's pretty cool, um,yeah, being able just to, to
know where I'm going when thisplace ends, when my body ends
pretty amazing source of peace,very grateful.
Feels like I won lottery ticketin life, you know, like that
scene in indiana j the end he'slike he's, he's grabbing the
little treasure.
It feels, feels like I got it.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Good, oh, adam, this has been a fun half hour.
I want to thank you for joiningus.
I I feel like I show up.
I mean I show up here not onlyjust as a host, but I show up
because all my guests are justlittle drips into my life of
just staying on the path,staying faithful.
So thank you for just sharingyour story.
(28:49):
If people want to find you,connect with you, what's the
best place?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, if anyone wants to connect with me I guess just
by email atadamottawarealestatecom.
Not super big into social media.
Okay, adam, at ottawarealestestatecom.
I'm not super big into socialmedia.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So okay, adam at Ottawa real estatecom.
So is that the name of your?
What's the name of your company?
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I work with Remax.
I've got an investment anddevelopment gig on the side, but
that's it's not public, it'sjust all right, it's smaller.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yeah, All right.
Well, Adam, thank you forjoining us.
It has been a joy.
Thank you All right.
Well, if you're part of LeaderImpact, you can always discuss
or share this podcast with yourgroup.
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You can also check out groupsavailable in Canada at
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