September 17, 2025 • 32 mins
What happens when you leave the security of corporate America to build something of your own? For Nick Uzzoni, this journey began with a leap of faith—moving from Michigan to Dallas with no job leads, sleeping on a stranger's floor, and slowly building a life from scratch. That early resilience now powers his work as a small business owner specializing in web design and digital marketing.
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome to the Leader Impact Podcast.
We are a community of leaderswith a network in over 350
cities around the world,dedicated to optimizing our
personal, professional andspiritual lives to have impact.
This show is where we have achance to listen and engage with
leaders who are living this out.
We love talking with leaders,so if you have any questions,
comments or suggestions to makethis show even better, please
let us know.
I'm your host, lisa Peters, andour guest today is Nick Uzzoni.
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Nick has thrived in situationswhere he can directly provide
value.
From working in variouscapacities in corporate America
to taking the great leap intosmall business ownership, nick
has always tried to put himselfin a position to serve others.
Putting faith at the forefrontof business leadership is not
easy, but Nick considers thisnecessary to living out an
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authentic life both at and awayfrom his desk.
Welcome to the show, nick.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Lisa, thanks for having me, I'm looking forward
to it.
It should be fun.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Well, you didn't say a lot in your bio and so I
looked you up so I'm excited tohear a little bit more about you
, sort of your professionaljourney.
But what we really love hearing, because we want to hear about
that is a pivotal moment thatmaybe moved you along your
journey, so share with us.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Pivotal moment.
I grew up just outside ofDetroit, michigan.
I lived there.
I was born in 88.
So I'm dating myself a bit.
I decided to leave home, takethe big, scary leap, not only
leave mommy and daddy's nest,but also just say, hey, I'm
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taking the big leap and movingto Dallas, texas, where I am now
just about 50 miles north ofDallas.
I came down here with zeroleads on a job.
My youngest brother was goingto university.
He was a freshman in universityat that time so I couldn't
really crash on his dorm roomcouch.
I don't think he really wantedme to do that.
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Anyway, I got in contact withan individual who was referred
over to me by somebody else tosay like hey, I don't know you,
you don't know me, I'm just kindof looking for a place to crash
for a couple of months.
I'm pretty pragmatic.
I knew how much money I had inmy bank account, my savings
account, and if I was pragmaticenough and budgeted enough, I
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knew how long I could surviveand eat and pay a little bit of
rent.
So off I went, hit the road,arrived in Dallas, ended up
staying with this guy, who'ssuper gracious, he had a room to
spare.
I think it was 400 bucks amonth or something.
I paid for a few months.
First couple of nights slept onthe floor.
I didn't have a mattress,didn't have anything, literally,
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you know.
Eventually got my mattress and,you know, started building my
life here.
But it was great.
I mean, it was a huge.
My parents afforded me so manywonderful opportunities which
allowed me to kind of take a bigleap.
But it was good for me in myearly twenties to get out from
under that safety umbrella tosay, okay, here I go, let me get
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out of here and I don't knowanybody and I've got to make
something for myself.
And one thing after another,after another, after another,
month, day after day, monthafter month, year after year.
Now you know, here I amdefinitely haven't made it.
I never look at anything asyou've made it, you can stop
working.
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But this is where I am now.
But it was a little bit scaryof a leap.
I look back now at like, oh mygod, what were you thinking?
That was great.
Here we are.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So before I ask you, what do you do so you can tell
our viewers?
I'm just going to make thecomment that you were born in 88
.
I'd already graduated highschool, so let's date myself
there, and I really love that.
You, you know, you picked upand moved from Michigan to
Dallas with zero leads.
I'm just going to acknowledgehow scary that is.
And when you're young, I,because I'm clearly older, it's
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clearly older it gets so hard tochange and I'm doing a study
right now on change because as Iget older I have to learn to
maintain that ability.
And in your bio you talk aboutan insatiable drive to succeed
and I could just see that.
I mean you were young and youjust moved with a passion to
move.
So the question I want to askyou is what do you do in Dallas
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now?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Sure, quite a few things, which is fun, kind of my
two primary things that I do.
I'm a business owner smallbusiness owner.
I started my business in we'llkind of call it the wake of the
2020 COVID pandemic.
I kept my corporate America job, but I was working from home,
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didn't have to commute anymore,so it was up early in the
morning, 4.30 AM at the deskbefore starting my nine to five
starting my job, which is allweb design, website design,
digital marketing targetingsmall businesses.
I'm a small business owner.
I know a lot of other smallbusiness owners.
My parents were small businessowners.
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So, for me.
That's, whether I like it ornot.
It's kind of inbred or embedinside of me.
It's in my blood, so to speak.
So I love partnering with thesmall business owner on the
digital front Because, again, alot of these business owners out
there they're running abusiness.
They don't have time to worryabout things, website, digital
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marketing.
They're like yo man, I'm adumpster rental company or I'm a
restaurant or I've got my ownpersonal brand or I'm a coffee
shop.
I don't have time to worryabout all this other business.
I have my business, my goalsI'm trying to accomplish.
So that's what I do.
That is the primary for me.
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I love it.
It is fantastic.
I love sticking close to thebusiness owner.
I love working directly withthem.
I don't win your business andthen throw you into a black box
somewhere and you never talk tome and I've outsourced your
project.
You're going to get me when youwork with me.
I love, I just love it.
I love seeing the impact thatcan be made and kind of again
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going with the successes and thefailures with the small
business owner, which is superfantastic.
And then as well, I'm also partowner of a software development
company.
Got involved with that as well.
Back, we'll call it like late2020.
Work with a couple differentclients out on that side just
developing mobile apps, softwaresolutions, and that's the
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company I'm part owner of aswell.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, I love that you still had to work corporate
America, cause I remembertransitioning to when I became a
small business owner, I stillhad to work like, and it was
work all day and then come homeand work at night on the dream
right, until you can sort ofmake that transition to to being
small business owner a hundredpercent.
Uh, I appreciate that.
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And what a great your familylike your family small business
owners to see them succeed.
And then you know, you knowwhat it takes.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Sure yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
So awesome.
So we want to talk about yourbest principle of success and if
you have a story to illustratethat.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
You mentioned it at the beginning authenticity.
To me, being authentic withpeople, is like a pillar in my
life.
Again, small business owner.
Small business owner, I wantyou to see exactly who I am as a
person, who I am as a businessowner, and I don't want you to
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look at that in two differentlights, because integrity is
super important to me servingthe customer, serving the client
and delivering everything thatI do with excellence.
Now, I'm pretty good atcompartmentalizing pretty much
everything in my life, and thatalso means that if you and I
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have, let's say, a problem inbusiness or even a personal
problem, we'll kind of flip itthe other way.
That doesn't mean that it shouldaffect both.
So I feel that if I have anystrength that I'm good at, it's
kind of removing a lot of thatoutside noise, just to be able
to get to the core, the root ofthe problem from the business
point of view, to say, hey,listen, whatever we're
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navigating through right now,you've got problems in your
business, or we've got problemsin our working relationship
together, whatever that lookslike, that's fine.
Let's put all that aside, let'sidentify the issue that we're
trying to overcome and let's gowith that full steam.
That's, to me like the mostauthentic way that I can
approach somebody, whether it bein a personal relationship or,
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like we're talking about today,in a business relationship.
I don't want you to shake myhand and we do a deal together
and then you're driving homethinking like, okay, who am I
getting with this person?
Is this going to flip overnight?
It's kind of like a what yousee is what you get with me.
I try to make that all good.
I'm not perfect, so there aresome things you'll find out
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about me.
Maybe you don't like, but I'dlike to be super upfront with
that and give people thatauthentic experience when they
work with me.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Well, what I definitely hear is just
communication skills.
You know, we have to be willingto ask the hard question of
both sides.
Like you know what the problemis, to ask the hard question of
of both sides.
Like you know, uh, what theproblem is, because it could be
with you, it could be with them,but just opening that door to
have that conversation, um,makes a, you know, a good leader
.
Uh, and it's hard, and it's youthat have made the mistake, you
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know, sure I'm a data driven.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I kind of cut my teeth as a corporate America
professional in data analyticsand as a business analyst and I
guess more information to me isalways good and that's not just
spreadsheet information, that'speople to people information.
The more data, the moreinformation you give to me, the
more we can solve the problem,whatever that is.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, good, all right .
Well, I'm excited to hear alittle bit about failures.
I think we all know, becauseyou're a small business owner,
where you have come from yourjourney.
We learn more sadly from ourfailures and mistakes than our
own successes and not sadly,it's just it's hard when you're
in them.
So I'm wondering if you have afailing or mistake that you can
share with us and what youlearned from it.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Oh for sure, Taking on too much and thinking that I
can do it all.
I pretty much just tell my wifethis.
Now I'm not fully transparentabout this with everybody, but I
guess I'm being now.
Just, I don't know.
I've always had this veryuncomfortable feeling, not
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looking knowledgeable in a roomor in a group of people and I
don't know for me.
Sometimes it makes me feel thatI'm stupid or inferior to
somebody.
If I don't know and I don'tagain, I'm never trying to fake
an answer you know to kind ofyou know BS my way through it.
I don't do that.
So it kind of puts me in thisweird spot of like okay, I'm not
going to just fumble my waythrough an answer to make it
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look like I know something, butI'm also feeling very stupid at
this point.
So that was probably my biggestthing and it did affect a couple
of clients of mine of going allin on something Again, wanting
to serve the client 100%.
That was my goal here.
I had no ulterior motive.
But getting to that point ofthinking like man knowing inside
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I need some help, I need tobring somebody else on board to
help me do this right.
But refusing to do that andrefusing to engage in that way
with the client, to be like, hey, you know what, like I'm not
the sole expert and you wantedme to be the sole expert on this
, but I've got somebody else whoI can bring a teammate or team
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member, whatever I want you knowto bring alongside to kind of
help get over this hurdle we'rehaving right now.
And I didn't do that.
Ultimately that's that lost methat customer which could have
been a good long-term client ofmine, and I was disappointed
about that.
But it was a good realizationand maybe the slap in the face
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that I needed was like, listen,you're getting into a world
where you don't know everythingand if you're going to approach
small business in a way to whereyou think you know everything,
it's going to be a horriblerealization that you don't.
So that's.
I always lean on that when Igear more toward like no, no, no
, I can do it, I can do it.
I have to remind myself youcan't do it all, so surround
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yourself with at least one ortwo people who can do it with
you.
And I've done a much better jobwith that as of late, for sure.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, I think listeners can resonate with that
comment.
I know I can.
There has been many nightswhere I can do it all and I'm up
late and I'm up, I am doing itall and at one point you know
and I'm like even website design, oh, I can do it.
You know, there's easy.
It's like but should I Justletting go of?
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I'm the client?
In that case, I'm my own clientand learning to let go.
But when you lose a client,that always hurts and yeah, did
anyone ever?
So I know that you'rerecognizing it like oh, I need
help.
Did anyone ever tell it?
Did anyone say it to you?
Did anyone ever recognize?
I know that you're recognizingit like oh, I need help.
Did anyone ever tell it?
Did anyone say it?
Say it to you, did anyone ever?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
recognize it and say, hey, you know maybe never
directly, because I never give,I never liked to give that that
oh yeah, that perception thatlike no, I can't do it.
You know, for maybe, maybe thatis like one part of my life
that I become a littleinauthentic.
To where?
Because I always approach itlike, hey, if I don't know how
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to do it, like, I'll learn aboutit, I got you, I'm a hard
worker, don't worry about it,I'm going to take care of it.
Then you fumble your way 50yards down the field and you
think like, oh my God, like Ishould have gotten help 50 yards
ago, you know, so nobody reallydirectly has ever said that I'm
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big.
You know, big on podcast andconsuming content, on a
leadership standpoint.
And maybe in that season orpoint in my life that seemed to
be, all the information that wasresonating with me is like hey,
like, if you want to besuccessful in something,
sometimes you do need a teammateor you need a team of people
who are going to help you.
And so never directly, more soindirectly, because maybe my
brain was telling me hey, listento this, you have a big problem
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coming here if you don't listento this.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, I can get that.
I never wanted to look bad andyou know I just oh, yeah, I got
you, I got it, I'm good.
Oh, I think I feel myselfsweating just thinking of those
times where I just should haveasked for help, but yeah, you
too, because I've started justkind of replaying it in my mind
like this is uncomfortable totalk about again.
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And I love your shirt says nobull.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Oh yes, that wasn't intentional.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Just when I grabbed the sporting oh God made it
intentional, All right.
Well, at Leader Impact we wantto grow personally,
professionally and spiritually,so to increase impact.
So we're wondering if you'rewilling to share an example of
how the spiritual makes apractical difference in your
life as a leader.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Oh for sure it was interesting.
I worked a couple of jobs herein the Dallas area and then I
picked up a great opportunitywith a fantastic company.
The company I actually left togo out on my own and that was a
difficult decision.
That was a fantastic company,global company, kind of had a
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nice path for me, you know, nicedevelopmental path.
It was great, I loved it.
It was difficult, it was a big,difficult decision to leave.
But when I first got startedthere and this is before I was
in any sort of leadershipposition I was just an
individual contributor gettingstarted at this company in my
mid-20s I guess in 2015.
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My desk isn't so clean now, I'vegot so much going on.
But then my desk at my officethere just a cubicle space,
pretty clean, pretty sleek.
I had a nice picture of my wifeand I and then I have this
little Bible I have sitting out.
I had it sitting there on thedesk, just put it there and
thought you never know, you getinto a bad day and you might
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need to go back to some of yourfoundational roots from a
spiritual point of view.
And I just had it sitting thereand I was probably like two and
a half to three weeks into meworking there, meeting some
people developing some goodrelationships, which was nice
and a guy who worked on the sameteam as me came up to me and he
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said, hey, I'll never forgetthis.
He said, hey, you having yourBible on that desk is super
impressive to me.
And I asked him I'm like well,why he goes.
Well, and he's probably about10 years older than me.
He said as you get older,you'll come to find that it
becomes more and more difficultto be more public about your
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Christian faith in your life,especially in the workplace.
And he says and I'm justwatching you and I watch how you
live and I watch how you talkand I watch what the things you
do and how you talk I didn'thave children at that time.
You talk about your wife and Isee your Bible there and that
shows me the person you are.
And that was you kind of hearthat thing in church growing up.
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You know, be careful, you knowpeople are watching.
That was my first big encounterof realizing like whoa, like
somebody I had no idea waswatching me, who's also a
Christian as well, was watchingme and watching my faith, just
over two and a half three weekstime and noticed one little
thing he puts a Bible on hisdesk.
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What does that mean?
Is that just something thathe's putting there, or is he
going to live this out in hislife?
So that's the foundation for mein the professional space and
how that's evolved over time Nowleading people, now working
directly with clients, to helppeople understand that authentic
self that you get with me.
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One of those principles is notperfection, but it is a
foundation in my Christian faithand that's come to be more and
more needing to be more and moreevident and practiced, even
with some of my clients.
A couple of weeks ago I wasspeaking with a client and she
was yeah, I had noticed, youknow, just wasn't herself, and
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I'd asked her I'm like hey, likejust wondering, like you doing
all right, and she goes no,actually I'm not.
My mother was just diagnosed,you know, had a pretty bad
medical diagnosis which is scaryto hear, and she's like you
know, if you don't mind, youknow, do you mind remembering my
mother in prayer or anything,absolutely for sure?
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You know I could say that andbe like sure, you know, I'm
praying for you, kind of a deal,but then rather being reminding
her, letting her know like, hey, I'm remembering your mother
because I know that she's sickand I know this is scary and I
know that you value her in herlife and I want to show you that
I value as a client, for sure,but as a person, on a person to
person basis, like you'revaluable and you're important as
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well.
So that's kind of going to thatfirst instance all the way to
now and being like, hey, likeit's gotta be something that I
put into practice every day,Cause it's who I am as an
individual.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, I can say that I've never had a Bible on my
desk at work, um, but I I knowthat I have had um uh quotes or
or scripture.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
And, and I, I think I do it because I'm trying.
I'm trying to be that personand I know that I am not perfect
.
And so I, when people see thatI, I, I want people to know I'm
trying to be perfect and I neverwill be.
But that Bible's thereSometimes.
I think it's there for me tolook at it every day and go,
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okay, I have to be that person.
I have to work hard to be that,to be a better person, to be
some, you to be that, to be abetter person, to be some you
know, to serve people.
Yes, those values, and I eventhink when I wear a cross and I
just look in the mirror and I go, I need to be that person.
Remember Lisa, put that judgmentaside, put you know.
So I appreciate that.
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That's a good story.
Thank you for sharing.
At Leader Impact, we arededicated to leaders making a
lasting impact.
So you're quite young, but asyou continue to move through
this journey of life, of work,of everything, have you
considered what you want yourfaith legacy to be when you
leave this world?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
First, my birthday is on Sunday, I think.
Yes, I'll be 37.
So I'm getting close to 40.
Not there yet, but yes, thefaith legacy.
My wife and I talk about thelegacy word all the time because
I feel it's used so much it'slike loses its importance.
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Yeah, the big.
What's most important to me isthat when you talk about kind of
leaving a legacy as a whole andthen you kind of
compartmentalize it and you lookat the portion of that like
okay, like what's your faithlegacy, is that somebody that
from a business point of view ifI'm just talking about like in
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the business world and tying inmy faith and working with people
, that you, anytime you workedwith me as a partner or you were
a client of mine or some sortof collaboration, whatever you
want to call it that when weworked together, that you, that
you, that you saw Christ throughthe work, that the work that we
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did together.
And I try to make thatprinciple be evident in
everything in my life.
And again, we've identified ita few times I'm the furthest
thing from perfection here.
It is just not always going tobe the best perfection day for
me and I try to start my daywith this prayer is that,
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anybody who I come in contactwith, that they see Christ
through me, whether it be insmall things, how I respond to
you, how we deal with a majorproblem together, how we deal
with a small problem together,whether it's in the workplace or
at my kid's school.
I'm a recreational soccer coachas well, so whether I'm coaching
your kids, no matter where itis, that that's what people see.
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That when they see Nick, theysee somebody that, yes, loves
his family, he works hard, hewill do whatever he can for the
client, but, most importantly,that they look and they see
something that's different in meand that if they start to pry
into that or look deeper intothat, that, they find the
foundation at the core of thatis Christ.
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It's not just good morals, it'snot just a solid, strong
upbringing or foundation thoseare all great, but that it's a
foundation and a basis in mylife that's built around Christ
and that has to be the driverand fuel for everything that I
do, whether we do business orpersonal life or sport or
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anything else together.
That that's the driver and fuelhere.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, I was just reading a book about leadership
and what I get from you is thatjust the deep love for your
family, your wife, your children, and leadership starts at home.
If you are treating your familyand your wife with disrespect,
you probably might be takingthat to work, or opposite.
You know.
So, hearing you talk about yourfamily, knowing that you love
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your clients too, you know it isa legacy to take on.
Thanks for sharing.
My last question for you iswhat brings you the greatest joy
?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Knowing that it sounds a little cliche, knowing
that I was able to make apositive impact in whatever that
a true, tangible positiveimpact and before, just you know
, giving the cliche line andbeing like, oh great, I've heard
this 50 times.
It kind of it goes again acrossthe board with things I'm
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working on.
Like I said I do, I'm arecreational soccer coach.
Like seeing seeing thosefamilies being like, hey, like
my kid wants to come back.
Not because Nick's the bestsoccer coach in the world I
think I'm okay, I'm not as greatas I probably think I am but
they come back because they saylike, hey, the, the life lessons
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that you've instilled in my kid, he, he's at a young age, he's
attaching onto those and hewants to come back and keep, you
know, kind of keep doing thesoccer thing with you.
For him he doesn't see it asanything else.
But you know, seeing like thatpositive impact over time on the
professional front it's I have.
I've been fortunate enough tohave clients that have stuck
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with me for a number of yearsnow, since the start, who took a
chance on me and said, you know, this guy, nick, reached out to
me to build this website and hesays he's maybe built one other
website in the past.
And OK, I'm going to start withthis dude who's just starting
his business in 2020, in themidst of everything else going
on, being able to work withthose people and hearing them
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say like, hey, man, you'veplayed a significant part in my
business and that's helped growmy business and help grow the
things that I want to do.
And then, of course, on thefamily side, which is, for me,
unashamedly the most importantthing to me I'm still seeing
this play out.
I haven't kind of seen it berealized yet in my life is
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ultimately that I want to beable to see.
I've got three boys and I makeit a point I never called them
little boys.
I always call them young men orlittle men.
I tell them, I said when youturn two in my house, you're no
longer a baby, you'reimmediately a young man, and
some people are like that.
You know why do you do that?
Because I want my boys to growup and see themselves as young
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men and young men of integrityand young men of a strong
Christian foundation as well.
To know that when they leave myhouse, that they're doing life
even way better than I did, thatthey're treating the people
they work well, that they workwith.
They treat them well.
If they have employees, theyhave a business, that they treat
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those people well.
They have families, wives andchildren.
They have to treat them well.
And that anybody that they comein contact with that they are
showing Christ through them,because maybe at one point in
their life they saw their dad doit.
Maybe I hope they see it morethan one time, but that's what
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I'm hoping.
If I look as almost like achain effect in my life, that's
to me what defines a true,valuable legacy is that it's not
just measured over five or 10years, that as an old man my
goal is to live, to be 100.
We'll see that as a100-year-old man on my deathbed
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I can look and see anyaccomplishments I had and
assumedly my family would bearound me at that time as an old
, dying man, but I could lookand be like, okay, the work I
did here was good and it wasworth it, and it was tiresome
but it was worth it because Isee the positive fruits of my
labor being, you know, kind ofmanifesting themselves
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generations down the line.
That's super important to me.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, great legacy and great joy it brings you.
I am at the other end.
So my kids have moved out, soI'm an empty nester and I never
called mine little men or littlewomen, I don't remember.
But they watched us as parents,you know, and now they are
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great humans.
So to you, nick, raise yourlittle men.
They're going to be awesomeyoung men one day, just
listening to you and justlistening to you.
I'll end it there.
I'm watching my own childrenand it is a joy, a joy to see
them grow.
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Yeah, and it wasn't as hardwhen they left because they were
so happy to move on with theirlives, right, I mean, you left
at a young age.
You have picked up fromMichigan and went to Dallas.
I'm sure it is apparent it'svery hard.
We got FaceTime, we gotmessaging.
I'm talking to them all thetime, so right.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Oh yeah, every day.
You know, there's always aninteraction with my parents and,
like you said, my parents weresad to see me go.
But they saw like, okay, he'sgrounded, he has a good
foundation.
We got to let him go.
Yes, kind of a deal.
I haven't done that yet.
As a parent, I know that'll bedifficult, but that's what I
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want for my kids to look.
As they're ready to go, I tellthem.
I said mom and dad want youalways to live here close to us,
but if you find an opportunityand you've made good decisions
in your life they're young now.
I can talk to them only so muchabout it.
I said well, we'll never holdyou back.
Take off and fly and do whatyou need to do and we'll be
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there to support you and you canalways come back if you need to
as well.
But we're trying to prepareourselves already for it and we
know it'll be here soon, youknow.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, so we'll talk in 10, 15 years.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
We'll see how you All right yes, we'll put it on the
calendar.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, you'll be great , Nick.
I just want to thank you forthe past half hour.
It is a pleasure to talk to you.
Listen, learn more about you.
If anyone wants to connect withyou, either as a web designer
or a leadership in consulting,how can they find you or connect
with you?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
I try to keep it easy .
I tell everyone to email at mejust M-E like me at
nicholasuzonicom, and is thatN-I-C-H,
n-i-c-h-o-l-a-s-u-z-o-n-icom?
Me at nicholasuzonicom?
Or if you go to my website,nicholasuzonicom, try to keep it
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easy.
You probably have never metanother Nicholas Uzzoni in the
world.
If you do reach out just to letme know, I'd love to connect
with him.
If you have no interest indoing business with me, but yeah
me at nicholasyuzonicom or youcan just find my website at
nicholasyuzonicom.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Perfect.
Thank you, nick, for joining usand uh uh, just yeah it, it has
been a pleasure, thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Most certainly Pleasure's all mine.
Thanks, Lisa All right?
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I'm your host, lisa Peters, andour guest today is Nick Uzzoni.
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Nick has thrived in situationswhere he can directly provide
value.
From working in variouscapacities in corporate America
to taking the great leap intosmall business ownership, nick
has always tried to put himselfin a position to serve others.
Putting faith at the forefrontof business leadership is not
easy, but Nick considers thisnecessary to living out an
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authentic life both at and awayfrom his desk.
Welcome to the show, nick.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Lisa, thanks for having me, I'm looking forward
to it.
It should be fun.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Well, you didn't say a lot in your bio and so I
looked you up so I'm excited tohear a little bit more about you
, sort of your professionaljourney.
But what we really love hearing, because we want to hear about
that is a pivotal moment thatmaybe moved you along your
journey, so share with us.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Pivotal moment.
I grew up just outside ofDetroit, michigan.
I lived there.
I was born in 88.
So I'm dating myself a bit.
I decided to leave home, takethe big, scary leap, not only
leave mommy and daddy's nest,but also just say, hey, I'm
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taking the big leap and movingto Dallas, texas, where I am now
just about 50 miles north ofDallas.
I came down here with zeroleads on a job.
My youngest brother was goingto university.
He was a freshman in universityat that time so I couldn't
really crash on his dorm roomcouch.
I don't think he really wantedme to do that.
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Anyway, I got in contact withan individual who was referred
over to me by somebody else tosay like hey, I don't know you,
you don't know me, I'm just kindof looking for a place to crash
for a couple of months.
I'm pretty pragmatic.
I knew how much money I had inmy bank account, my savings
account, and if I was pragmaticenough and budgeted enough, I
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knew how long I could surviveand eat and pay a little bit of
rent.
So off I went, hit the road,arrived in Dallas, ended up
staying with this guy, who'ssuper gracious, he had a room to
spare.
I think it was 400 bucks amonth or something.
I paid for a few months.
First couple of nights slept onthe floor.
I didn't have a mattress,didn't have anything, literally,
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you know.
Eventually got my mattress and,you know, started building my
life here.
But it was great.
I mean, it was a huge.
My parents afforded me so manywonderful opportunities which
allowed me to kind of take a bigleap.
But it was good for me in myearly twenties to get out from
under that safety umbrella tosay, okay, here I go, let me get
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out of here and I don't knowanybody and I've got to make
something for myself.
And one thing after another,after another, after another,
month, day after day, monthafter month, year after year.
Now you know, here I amdefinitely haven't made it.
I never look at anything asyou've made it, you can stop
working.
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But this is where I am now.
But it was a little bit scaryof a leap.
I look back now at like, oh mygod, what were you thinking?
That was great.
Here we are.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So before I ask you, what do you do so you can tell
our viewers?
I'm just going to make thecomment that you were born in 88
.
I'd already graduated highschool, so let's date myself
there, and I really love that.
You, you know, you picked upand moved from Michigan to
Dallas with zero leads.
I'm just going to acknowledgehow scary that is.
And when you're young, I,because I'm clearly older, it's
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clearly older it gets so hard tochange and I'm doing a study
right now on change because as Iget older I have to learn to
maintain that ability.
And in your bio you talk aboutan insatiable drive to succeed
and I could just see that.
I mean you were young and youjust moved with a passion to
move.
So the question I want to askyou is what do you do in Dallas
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now?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Sure, quite a few things, which is fun, kind of my
two primary things that I do.
I'm a business owner smallbusiness owner.
I started my business in we'llkind of call it the wake of the
2020 COVID pandemic.
I kept my corporate America job, but I was working from home,
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didn't have to commute anymore,so it was up early in the
morning, 4.30 AM at the deskbefore starting my nine to five
starting my job, which is allweb design, website design,
digital marketing targetingsmall businesses.
I'm a small business owner.
I know a lot of other smallbusiness owners.
My parents were small businessowners.
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So, for me.
That's, whether I like it ornot.
It's kind of inbred or embedinside of me.
It's in my blood, so to speak.
So I love partnering with thesmall business owner on the
digital front Because, again, alot of these business owners out
there they're running abusiness.
They don't have time to worryabout things, website, digital
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marketing.
They're like yo man, I'm adumpster rental company or I'm a
restaurant or I've got my ownpersonal brand or I'm a coffee
shop.
I don't have time to worryabout all this other business.
I have my business, my goalsI'm trying to accomplish.
So that's what I do.
That is the primary for me.
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I love it.
It is fantastic.
I love sticking close to thebusiness owner.
I love working directly withthem.
I don't win your business andthen throw you into a black box
somewhere and you never talk tome and I've outsourced your
project.
You're going to get me when youwork with me.
I love, I just love it.
I love seeing the impact thatcan be made and kind of again
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going with the successes and thefailures with the small
business owner, which is superfantastic.
And then as well, I'm also partowner of a software development
company.
Got involved with that as well.
Back, we'll call it like late2020.
Work with a couple differentclients out on that side just
developing mobile apps, softwaresolutions, and that's the
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company I'm part owner of aswell.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, I love that you still had to work corporate
America, cause I remembertransitioning to when I became a
small business owner, I stillhad to work like, and it was
work all day and then come homeand work at night on the dream
right, until you can sort ofmake that transition to to being
small business owner a hundredpercent.
Uh, I appreciate that.
(07:02):
And what a great your familylike your family small business
owners to see them succeed.
And then you know, you knowwhat it takes.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Sure yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
So awesome.
So we want to talk about yourbest principle of success and if
you have a story to illustratethat.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
You mentioned it at the beginning authenticity.
To me, being authentic withpeople, is like a pillar in my
life.
Again, small business owner.
Small business owner, I wantyou to see exactly who I am as a
person, who I am as a businessowner, and I don't want you to
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look at that in two differentlights, because integrity is
super important to me servingthe customer, serving the client
and delivering everything thatI do with excellence.
Now, I'm pretty good atcompartmentalizing pretty much
everything in my life, and thatalso means that if you and I
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have, let's say, a problem inbusiness or even a personal
problem, we'll kind of flip itthe other way.
That doesn't mean that it shouldaffect both.
So I feel that if I have anystrength that I'm good at, it's
kind of removing a lot of thatoutside noise, just to be able
to get to the core, the root ofthe problem from the business
point of view, to say, hey,listen, whatever we're
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navigating through right now,you've got problems in your
business, or we've got problemsin our working relationship
together, whatever that lookslike, that's fine.
Let's put all that aside, let'sidentify the issue that we're
trying to overcome and let's gowith that full steam.
That's, to me like the mostauthentic way that I can
approach somebody, whether it bein a personal relationship or,
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like we're talking about today,in a business relationship.
I don't want you to shake myhand and we do a deal together
and then you're driving homethinking like, okay, who am I
getting with this person?
Is this going to flip overnight?
It's kind of like a what yousee is what you get with me.
I try to make that all good.
I'm not perfect, so there aresome things you'll find out
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about me.
Maybe you don't like, but I'dlike to be super upfront with
that and give people thatauthentic experience when they
work with me.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Well, what I definitely hear is just
communication skills.
You know, we have to be willingto ask the hard question of
both sides.
Like you know what the problemis, to ask the hard question of
of both sides.
Like you know, uh, what theproblem is, because it could be
with you, it could be with them,but just opening that door to
have that conversation, um,makes a, you know, a good leader
.
Uh, and it's hard, and it's youthat have made the mistake, you
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know, sure I'm a data driven.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I kind of cut my teeth as a corporate America
professional in data analyticsand as a business analyst and I
guess more information to me isalways good and that's not just
spreadsheet information, that'speople to people information.
The more data, the moreinformation you give to me, the
more we can solve the problem,whatever that is.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, good, all right .
Well, I'm excited to hear alittle bit about failures.
I think we all know, becauseyou're a small business owner,
where you have come from yourjourney.
We learn more sadly from ourfailures and mistakes than our
own successes and not sadly,it's just it's hard when you're
in them.
So I'm wondering if you have afailing or mistake that you can
share with us and what youlearned from it.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Oh for sure, Taking on too much and thinking that I
can do it all.
I pretty much just tell my wifethis.
Now I'm not fully transparentabout this with everybody, but I
guess I'm being now.
Just, I don't know.
I've always had this veryuncomfortable feeling, not
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looking knowledgeable in a roomor in a group of people and I
don't know for me.
Sometimes it makes me feel thatI'm stupid or inferior to
somebody.
If I don't know and I don'tagain, I'm never trying to fake
an answer you know to kind ofyou know BS my way through it.
I don't do that.
So it kind of puts me in thisweird spot of like okay, I'm not
going to just fumble my waythrough an answer to make it
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look like I know something, butI'm also feeling very stupid at
this point.
So that was probably my biggestthing and it did affect a couple
of clients of mine of going allin on something Again, wanting
to serve the client 100%.
That was my goal here.
I had no ulterior motive.
But getting to that point ofthinking like man knowing inside
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I need some help, I need tobring somebody else on board to
help me do this right.
But refusing to do that andrefusing to engage in that way
with the client, to be like, hey, you know what, like I'm not
the sole expert and you wantedme to be the sole expert on this
, but I've got somebody else whoI can bring a teammate or team
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member, whatever I want you knowto bring alongside to kind of
help get over this hurdle we'rehaving right now.
And I didn't do that.
Ultimately that's that lost methat customer which could have
been a good long-term client ofmine, and I was disappointed
about that.
But it was a good realizationand maybe the slap in the face
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that I needed was like, listen,you're getting into a world
where you don't know everythingand if you're going to approach
small business in a way to whereyou think you know everything,
it's going to be a horriblerealization that you don't.
So that's.
I always lean on that when Igear more toward like no, no, no
, I can do it, I can do it.
I have to remind myself youcan't do it all, so surround
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yourself with at least one ortwo people who can do it with
you.
And I've done a much better jobwith that as of late, for sure.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, I think listeners can resonate with that
comment.
I know I can.
There has been many nightswhere I can do it all and I'm up
late and I'm up, I am doing itall and at one point you know
and I'm like even website design, oh, I can do it.
You know, there's easy.
It's like but should I Justletting go of?
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I'm the client?
In that case, I'm my own clientand learning to let go.
But when you lose a client,that always hurts and yeah, did
anyone ever?
So I know that you'rerecognizing it like oh, I need
help.
Did anyone ever tell it?
Did anyone say it to you?
Did anyone ever recognize?
I know that you're recognizingit like oh, I need help.
Did anyone ever tell it?
Did anyone say it?
Say it to you, did anyone ever?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
recognize it and say, hey, you know maybe never
directly, because I never give,I never liked to give that that
oh yeah, that perception thatlike no, I can't do it.
You know, for maybe, maybe thatis like one part of my life
that I become a littleinauthentic.
To where?
Because I always approach itlike, hey, if I don't know how
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to do it, like, I'll learn aboutit, I got you, I'm a hard
worker, don't worry about it,I'm going to take care of it.
Then you fumble your way 50yards down the field and you
think like, oh my God, like Ishould have gotten help 50 yards
ago, you know, so nobody reallydirectly has ever said that I'm
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big.
You know, big on podcast andconsuming content, on a
leadership standpoint.
And maybe in that season orpoint in my life that seemed to
be, all the information that wasresonating with me is like hey,
like, if you want to besuccessful in something,
sometimes you do need a teammateor you need a team of people
who are going to help you.
And so never directly, more soindirectly, because maybe my
brain was telling me hey, listento this, you have a big problem
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coming here if you don't listento this.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, I can get that.
I never wanted to look bad andyou know I just oh, yeah, I got
you, I got it, I'm good.
Oh, I think I feel myselfsweating just thinking of those
times where I just should haveasked for help, but yeah, you
too, because I've started justkind of replaying it in my mind
like this is uncomfortable totalk about again.
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And I love your shirt says nobull.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Oh yes, that wasn't intentional.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Just when I grabbed the sporting oh God made it
intentional, All right.
Well, at Leader Impact we wantto grow personally,
professionally and spiritually,so to increase impact.
So we're wondering if you'rewilling to share an example of
how the spiritual makes apractical difference in your
life as a leader.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Oh for sure it was interesting.
I worked a couple of jobs herein the Dallas area and then I
picked up a great opportunitywith a fantastic company.
The company I actually left togo out on my own and that was a
difficult decision.
That was a fantastic company,global company, kind of had a
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nice path for me, you know, nicedevelopmental path.
It was great, I loved it.
It was difficult, it was a big,difficult decision to leave.
But when I first got startedthere and this is before I was
in any sort of leadershipposition I was just an
individual contributor gettingstarted at this company in my
mid-20s I guess in 2015.
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My desk isn't so clean now, I'vegot so much going on.
But then my desk at my officethere just a cubicle space,
pretty clean, pretty sleek.
I had a nice picture of my wifeand I and then I have this
little Bible I have sitting out.
I had it sitting there on thedesk, just put it there and
thought you never know, you getinto a bad day and you might
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need to go back to some of yourfoundational roots from a
spiritual point of view.
And I just had it sitting thereand I was probably like two and
a half to three weeks into meworking there, meeting some
people developing some goodrelationships, which was nice
and a guy who worked on the sameteam as me came up to me and he
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said, hey, I'll never forgetthis.
He said, hey, you having yourBible on that desk is super
impressive to me.
And I asked him I'm like well,why he goes.
Well, and he's probably about10 years older than me.
He said as you get older,you'll come to find that it
becomes more and more difficultto be more public about your
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Christian faith in your life,especially in the workplace.
And he says and I'm justwatching you and I watch how you
live and I watch how you talkand I watch what the things you
do and how you talk I didn'thave children at that time.
You talk about your wife and Isee your Bible there and that
shows me the person you are.
And that was you kind of hearthat thing in church growing up.
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You know, be careful, you knowpeople are watching.
That was my first big encounterof realizing like whoa, like
somebody I had no idea waswatching me, who's also a
Christian as well, was watchingme and watching my faith, just
over two and a half three weekstime and noticed one little
thing he puts a Bible on hisdesk.
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What does that mean?
Is that just something thathe's putting there, or is he
going to live this out in hislife?
So that's the foundation for mein the professional space and
how that's evolved over time Nowleading people, now working
directly with clients, to helppeople understand that authentic
self that you get with me.
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One of those principles is notperfection, but it is a
foundation in my Christian faithand that's come to be more and
more needing to be more and moreevident and practiced, even
with some of my clients.
A couple of weeks ago I wasspeaking with a client and she
was yeah, I had noticed, youknow, just wasn't herself, and
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I'd asked her I'm like hey, likejust wondering, like you doing
all right, and she goes no,actually I'm not.
My mother was just diagnosed,you know, had a pretty bad
medical diagnosis which is scaryto hear, and she's like you
know, if you don't mind, youknow, do you mind remembering my
mother in prayer or anything,absolutely for sure?
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You know I could say that andbe like sure, you know, I'm
praying for you, kind of a deal,but then rather being reminding
her, letting her know like, hey, I'm remembering your mother
because I know that she's sickand I know this is scary and I
know that you value her in herlife and I want to show you that
I value as a client, for sure,but as a person, on a person to
person basis, like you'revaluable and you're important as
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well.
So that's kind of going to thatfirst instance all the way to
now and being like, hey, likeit's gotta be something that I
put into practice every day,Cause it's who I am as an
individual.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, I can say that I've never had a Bible on my
desk at work, um, but I I knowthat I have had um uh quotes or
or scripture.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
And, and I, I think I do it because I'm trying.
I'm trying to be that personand I know that I am not perfect
.
And so I, when people see thatI, I, I want people to know I'm
trying to be perfect and I neverwill be.
But that Bible's thereSometimes.
I think it's there for me tolook at it every day and go,
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okay, I have to be that person.
I have to work hard to be that,to be a better person, to be
some, you to be that, to be abetter person, to be some you
know, to serve people.
Yes, those values, and I eventhink when I wear a cross and I
just look in the mirror and I go, I need to be that person.
Remember Lisa, put that judgmentaside, put you know.
So I appreciate that.
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That's a good story.
Thank you for sharing.
At Leader Impact, we arededicated to leaders making a
lasting impact.
So you're quite young, but asyou continue to move through
this journey of life, of work,of everything, have you
considered what you want yourfaith legacy to be when you
leave this world?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
First, my birthday is on Sunday, I think.
Yes, I'll be 37.
So I'm getting close to 40.
Not there yet, but yes, thefaith legacy.
My wife and I talk about thelegacy word all the time because
I feel it's used so much it'slike loses its importance.
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Yeah, the big.
What's most important to me isthat when you talk about kind of
leaving a legacy as a whole andthen you kind of
compartmentalize it and you lookat the portion of that like
okay, like what's your faithlegacy, is that somebody that
from a business point of view ifI'm just talking about like in
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the business world and tying inmy faith and working with people
, that you, anytime you workedwith me as a partner or you were
a client of mine or some sortof collaboration, whatever you
want to call it that when weworked together, that you, that
you, that you saw Christ throughthe work, that the work that we
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did together.
And I try to make thatprinciple be evident in
everything in my life.
And again, we've identified ita few times I'm the furthest
thing from perfection here.
It is just not always going tobe the best perfection day for
me and I try to start my daywith this prayer is that,
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anybody who I come in contactwith, that they see Christ
through me, whether it be insmall things, how I respond to
you, how we deal with a majorproblem together, how we deal
with a small problem together,whether it's in the workplace or
at my kid's school.
I'm a recreational soccer coachas well, so whether I'm coaching
your kids, no matter where itis, that that's what people see.
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That when they see Nick, theysee somebody that, yes, loves
his family, he works hard, hewill do whatever he can for the
client, but, most importantly,that they look and they see
something that's different in meand that if they start to pry
into that or look deeper intothat, that, they find the
foundation at the core of thatis Christ.
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It's not just good morals, it'snot just a solid, strong
upbringing or foundation thoseare all great, but that it's a
foundation and a basis in mylife that's built around Christ
and that has to be the driverand fuel for everything that I
do, whether we do business orpersonal life or sport or
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anything else together.
That that's the driver and fuelhere.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, I was just reading a book about leadership
and what I get from you is thatjust the deep love for your
family, your wife, your children, and leadership starts at home.
If you are treating your familyand your wife with disrespect,
you probably might be takingthat to work, or opposite.
You know.
So, hearing you talk about yourfamily, knowing that you love
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your clients too, you know it isa legacy to take on.
Thanks for sharing.
My last question for you iswhat brings you the greatest joy
?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Knowing that it sounds a little cliche, knowing
that I was able to make apositive impact in whatever that
a true, tangible positiveimpact and before, just you know
, giving the cliche line andbeing like, oh great, I've heard
this 50 times.
It kind of it goes again acrossthe board with things I'm
(24:40):
working on.
Like I said I do, I'm arecreational soccer coach.
Like seeing seeing thosefamilies being like, hey, like
my kid wants to come back.
Not because Nick's the bestsoccer coach in the world I
think I'm okay, I'm not as greatas I probably think I am but
they come back because they saylike, hey, the, the life lessons
(25:02):
that you've instilled in my kid, he, he's at a young age, he's
attaching onto those and hewants to come back and keep, you
know, kind of keep doing thesoccer thing with you.
For him he doesn't see it asanything else.
But you know, seeing like thatpositive impact over time on the
professional front it's I have.
I've been fortunate enough tohave clients that have stuck
(25:25):
with me for a number of yearsnow, since the start, who took a
chance on me and said, you know, this guy, nick, reached out to
me to build this website and hesays he's maybe built one other
website in the past.
And OK, I'm going to start withthis dude who's just starting
his business in 2020, in themidst of everything else going
on, being able to work withthose people and hearing them
(25:49):
say like, hey, man, you'veplayed a significant part in my
business and that's helped growmy business and help grow the
things that I want to do.
And then, of course, on thefamily side, which is, for me,
unashamedly the most importantthing to me I'm still seeing
this play out.
I haven't kind of seen it berealized yet in my life is
(26:09):
ultimately that I want to beable to see.
I've got three boys and I makeit a point I never called them
little boys.
I always call them young men orlittle men.
I tell them, I said when youturn two in my house, you're no
longer a baby, you'reimmediately a young man, and
some people are like that.
You know why do you do that?
Because I want my boys to growup and see themselves as young
(26:34):
men and young men of integrityand young men of a strong
Christian foundation as well.
To know that when they leave myhouse, that they're doing life
even way better than I did, thatthey're treating the people
they work well, that they workwith.
They treat them well.
If they have employees, theyhave a business, that they treat
(26:54):
those people well.
They have families, wives andchildren.
They have to treat them well.
And that anybody that they comein contact with that they are
showing Christ through them,because maybe at one point in
their life they saw their dad doit.
Maybe I hope they see it morethan one time, but that's what
(27:15):
I'm hoping.
If I look as almost like achain effect in my life, that's
to me what defines a true,valuable legacy is that it's not
just measured over five or 10years, that as an old man my
goal is to live, to be 100.
We'll see that as a100-year-old man on my deathbed
(27:36):
I can look and see anyaccomplishments I had and
assumedly my family would bearound me at that time as an old
, dying man, but I could lookand be like, okay, the work I
did here was good and it wasworth it, and it was tiresome
but it was worth it because Isee the positive fruits of my
labor being, you know, kind ofmanifesting themselves
(28:00):
generations down the line.
That's super important to me.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, great legacy and great joy it brings you.
I am at the other end.
So my kids have moved out, soI'm an empty nester and I never
called mine little men or littlewomen, I don't remember.
But they watched us as parents,you know, and now they are
(28:25):
great humans.
So to you, nick, raise yourlittle men.
They're going to be awesomeyoung men one day, just
listening to you and justlistening to you.
I'll end it there.
I'm watching my own childrenand it is a joy, a joy to see
them grow.
(28:46):
Yeah, and it wasn't as hardwhen they left because they were
so happy to move on with theirlives, right, I mean, you left
at a young age.
You have picked up fromMichigan and went to Dallas.
I'm sure it is apparent it'svery hard.
We got FaceTime, we gotmessaging.
I'm talking to them all thetime, so right.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Oh yeah, every day.
You know, there's always aninteraction with my parents and,
like you said, my parents weresad to see me go.
But they saw like, okay, he'sgrounded, he has a good
foundation.
We got to let him go.
Yes, kind of a deal.
I haven't done that yet.
As a parent, I know that'll bedifficult, but that's what I
(29:24):
want for my kids to look.
As they're ready to go, I tellthem.
I said mom and dad want youalways to live here close to us,
but if you find an opportunityand you've made good decisions
in your life they're young now.
I can talk to them only so muchabout it.
I said well, we'll never holdyou back.
Take off and fly and do whatyou need to do and we'll be
(29:45):
there to support you and you canalways come back if you need to
as well.
But we're trying to prepareourselves already for it and we
know it'll be here soon, youknow.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, so we'll talk in 10, 15 years.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
We'll see how you All right yes, we'll put it on the
calendar.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, you'll be great , Nick.
I just want to thank you forthe past half hour.
It is a pleasure to talk to you.
Listen, learn more about you.
If anyone wants to connect withyou, either as a web designer
or a leadership in consulting,how can they find you or connect
with you?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
I try to keep it easy .
I tell everyone to email at mejust M-E like me at
nicholasuzonicom, and is thatN-I-C-H,
n-i-c-h-o-l-a-s-u-z-o-n-icom?
Me at nicholasuzonicom?
Or if you go to my website,nicholasuzonicom, try to keep it
(30:39):
easy.
You probably have never metanother Nicholas Uzzoni in the
world.
If you do reach out just to letme know, I'd love to connect
with him.
If you have no interest indoing business with me, but yeah
me at nicholasyuzonicom or youcan just find my website at
nicholasyuzonicom.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Perfect.
Thank you, nick, for joining usand uh uh, just yeah it, it has
been a pleasure, thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Most certainly Pleasure's all mine.
Thanks, Lisa All right?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
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