Ep 142. Messaging vs Design: What Really Drives Results?

I invited branding expert Versaviya Despars onto Leaders Lane because she’s one of the few creatives who doesn’t just make things look good—she makes them work. 

Her story starts where many of ours do: with rejection.

She didn’t land her dream job.

So she built her own studio instead.

We talked about that pivotal moment, and how it taught her the most important skill in branding: saying one clear thing, and saying it well.
Versaviya shares how she helps founders go from:

1. overwhelmed to razor-sharp in their messaging, 2. why great design is never just about how it looks, 3. and how the rhythm of music shapes memorable storytelling.

We also dive into the brutal truth most people avoid:If your audience is confused, they’re gone.

This is a conversation about storytelling, editing, ownership—and learning to “kill your darlings” for the sake of clarity, connection, and growth.

What we covered:

• Turning rejection into creative freedom
• Why most brands try to say too much—and lose everyone
• How storytelling shapes perception
• The connection between music, rhythm, and brand recall
• Why simplicity is your superpower
• Editing your message (and ego)
• Making design and copy say the same thing
• The psychology of layout and visual hierarchy

🎧 Listen now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify + YouTube.

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CONNECT WITH VERSAVIYA DESPARS

Follow on LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/versaviya-despars/
Website — https://www.pivotbranding.co/