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May 7, 2025 38 mins

Many leaders view disruption as something they have to manage or preferably avoid altogether so they can focus on what they believe is the “real work” of leadership.

But in today’s increasingly complex and uncertain world, perhaps the real work leaders should be focusing on is rethinking how and why their organizations operate the way they do. That’s the argument my guest Terence Mauri makes in this episode of my “Leadership Biz Cafe” podcast.

Terence is a world-leading expert on the future of leadership, AI, and disruption, and the founder of the future trends think tank, Hack Future Lab. Terence’s writings and insights have appeared in The Economist, Forbes, Inc, BBC, Reuters, and Business Insider.

In his latest book, “The Upside of Disruption”, Terence presents his DARE model – a framework that challenges leaders to build adaptive, resilient, and human-centric organizations that due away with the current approach towards a more command-and-control style of leading.

Just like his book, my conversation with Terence will disrupt how you think about AI, agility, and failure, and why the most successful organizations in the years ahead will not be those who learn to survive disruption, but who understand how to thrive because of it.

Noteworthy links:

  • Buy Terence’s book “The Upside of Disruption” on Amazon
  • Learn more about Terence’s work: terencemauri.com



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