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Mark French (00:00):
The Summer safety
season is in full swing, and
that's not a good thing. We'regoing to talk about more summer
safety this week on the podcast.
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mark,
Mark French (01:27):
hello and welcome
to this episode of the leading
and learning through safetypodcast. I am your host, Mark,
and I am so glad, as always,that you've joined me. Thank you
for allowing me to be part ofyour podcast rotation, and let's
jump right in. It's been a busypast week in the world of
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safety, and not in a good way.
That's never a good sign whensafety is busy. Last week, we
started talking again aboutsummer safety. And I make the
joke almost every year aroundthis time of you know, summer
happens every year, and itshouldn't surprise us when the
weather turns warm and thingsbegin to change and we need to
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take precautions. A lot ofcompanies did not get the memo
last week, and I want to talkabout that. So last week,
temperatures were wild. Theywere unbelievable. I The week
before last. I was in SanAntonio. Last week, I was in
Boston this year, this week,back at home in Kentucky in last
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week, the temperatures werecrazy. I flew up to Boston to
actually get into highertemperatures and a higher heat
index than what I had at home inKentucky, and even higher than
San Antonio, the most of the US,kind of the Southern and East
area, and even even more partswere under some wild extreme
temperatures for this time ofyear, heat advisories
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everywhere. It was kind of weirdin the way that it wasn't a
matter of being in danger fromheat, it was just how degree of
severity were you there withheat? And it it appears a lot of
places were not ready for it.
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And that's unfortunate, becausewhen when a company isn't ready
to take care of the people, thepeople suffer, and that's
unacceptable. Good leadershipshould number one be about
preventing human harm. And Iknow that, unfortunately, does
not appear to be true in allcases. And let's talk about some
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of that. So the news, and that'swhere I'm going to go through,
is the news last week, a lot, alot of very sad, very intense
fatalities, disappointing. Andas always, we talk about this,
not to shame, not to blame,well, maybe a little bit there,
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but we want to learn. And I knowif you're listening to this
podcast, you're trying, you'renot. I am preaching to the
choir, proverbially, but I thinkwe need to hear about these
things. It reminds us of whatwe're doing and how maybe, maybe
this is the wake up call foranother company to get involved
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and start doing things and startchanging the way they go about
it. But the heat hit just likeit does every summer, this time
a little more extreme, maybeeven a little early, breaking
some records in some areas, butwe still should have had a plan.
And I say the royal we, as if,like, we could have been done
something here. But I feel likethere's a learning here about
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it. Let's start. Let's just,let's get started going through
some of this that is out there.
A lot of my own news searchesand news pings, but also I
always rely on a great blog.
Blog called the confined spaceby Jordan barab, great, great
blog, great supplement to the tosome of the research I do
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independently, to kind of keepmy eye out there of some of the
most extremes of the world ofsafety and safety and leadership
tie hand in hand, and I neverreally get past that. This is
really a podcast aboutleadership, but it's most
importantly, it's a podcastabout people. And fundamentally,
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if we cannot protect our peoplefrom human harm, are we even
getting close to the rest ofleadership. Doesn't even matter
what else we're doing if wecannot hit the moral imperative
of protecting our people fromdanger and harm. Anyway, I keep
promising them get started, andI got to get off the soap box
and get going here the firstone. Dallas, Texas, postal
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working. Postal worker, extremeheat. Heat stress died as on the
work because of extreme heat,another one and Georgia said
that there was a number anoutdoor worker that came in, and
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they also, as they were doingthe interview for the for the
news story, the doctor that kindof treated the person said he he
had seen pretty high, like a 20%increase in occupational heat
exposure. An umpire doing asoftball game in South Carolina
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fell ill and passed away fromheat. Right off the bat, there's
three just related to the heat,and these are the fatalities
that were reported as workrelated fatalities. This doesn't
even begin to encompass the onesthat may not have been
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considered work related may haveresulted in significant heat
related stress, or thosecompanies may not have even just
tried or to report. And I thinkthat's the saddest part, is that
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the data we get and the data weread is the ones that actually
get reported, rather than theones who are not doing what they
should do in any case of theword. But let's keep going. One
of the worst ones that I readabout this past week is a 717
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year old, 17 year old inMichigan, working as a tree
trimmer. Was was tasked with thejob of trimming up limbs, like
fallen limbs, cutting them upusing a chainsaw. The they were
doing it in front of ahomeowner's house. The homeowner
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came to the came home fromwherever they were at found the
17 year old dead with alaceration to the neck. Yeah, I
cannot imagine this in in somany ways. The worker was
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cutting up a fallen tree at ahome. Details are limited. The
home owner came outside to findthe victim laying next to a
chainsaw with a laceration tothe neck. Lone Worker, super
hazardous work, 17 years old, nosupervision, working for a
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company and died in it. That'sgruesome. That's gruesome in the
homeowner. Can you imaginethinking that you're just
getting someone to clean up youryard, and that's what you find
unbelievable. That one this weekreally hit me, because it's
summer, storms are comingthrough, limbs are falling.
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People want to clean up theiryards. This is when that kind of
work happens. And last week, wetalked about the tree trimming
and the the work and fallprotection and just all the
other types of work that happenin the summer specifically get
really busy because of work likethat, and they're looking for
people, and they're looking tobring people into work, and they
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I don't know the fullcircumstances, but my guess is
that being only 17 years old,they did not have a ton of
experience with a chainsaw justbecause of age. I don't think
they started operating achainsaw at the tender age of 10
or something, and had sevenyears they were young, and that
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was that whatever happened wasunbelievably exceptional. And.
There is to me, there's so muchnegligence here that it makes me
physically sick and physicallyangry to even think about that.
And we're not done yet. There'smore here. Last week was
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unbelievable from a safety newscycle. Let's keep talking about
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and welcome back to
the second half of the leading
and learning through safetypodcast this week, disturbing
podcast. My apologies for thatand kind of negative, in a lot
of ways, is we're looking at thenews from just one week, seven
days of safety news in thesummertime has hit hard, and I
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think it's very timely, not thatI predicted it, or I'm taking
any credit, but last week, wedid talk about the summer
hazards that are going to becoming up and come up every
year, and here we are. We'reseeing it already in full swing,
which is disappointing in a lotof ways, and it shows how far we
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as a nation have to come withsafety, and how the need for
good safety, professionals andgood people leaders are
necessary. Let's keep going.
Michigan again. 24 year oldelectrocuted while working on a
roof. He had been electrocutedand fell off the building. No
fall protection, no lockout, tagout, nothing in Missouri, this
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is not a summertime one, butjust one that rang true, because
this is, this is too common inthe food industry, and allegedly
out of service oven, kind of aperson got into a cereal baking
oven and died before it could beturned off again and emergency
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responders could come now, thisis still very fresh in my mind,
because it was, it's been 10years or more where a tuna fish
factory killed someone in apressure cooker, an industrial
pressure cooker. This is toocommon, and it's just lock out,
tag out. I say it's just lockouttagout. It's been around for a
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long time. It's been around evenbefore OSHA came into an act
companies understood they neededto notify people that things
needed to be turned off. Don'tgo in. And here we still are.
The year is 2025, and they foundsomeone inside an oven,
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overturned piece of heavymachinery. So working outside,
overturned piece of machinery,another electrocution, this time
in Alabama, where someone wasworking on a piece of equipment
for a pretty large organization,and had that happen, another
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tree trimming accident where thelimb snapped fell to his death.
A roofer and three injured werehurt while working on a roof and
touched the power lines. A farmemployee in Wisconsin was killed
when the silo fell. A workerthat was hauling gravel tipped
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over while dumping the load. Theperson was found unresponsive in
the cab. I a truck driver killedon the side of the road, another
worker on the side of the roadkilled in Kansas City, Missouri,
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semi truck driver killedconstruction workers injured in
the crash in Michigan.
Unbelievable. That just keepsgoing. And we look at these, and
some of these are not abnormalfor the summer, but there are
things that we've seen thetrends of but a lot. Yeah, a lot
were related to additionalsummertime activities. If you
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were a leader in yourorganization, I ask, get with
your team, get with yourorganization, get with your
people, and bring up and justask the question, what other
hazards? What new hazardspresent themselves in the
summer. It's not just heat, it'sthe fact that we may be busier.
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We may bringing be bringing inmore people for seasonal work.
It could be that there's a lotmore growth and more store.
There's so many other thingsthat happen in the summer, other
than heat, and Heat's big. Imean, that's a big deal, and
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maybe we'll see some legislationon it. Maybe we won't. Either
way, it's the right thing to do,to ask your team if they're okay
and need a break. Provide themwith water, provide them with
somewhere that has some shade,provide them a cool area of rest
where possible, to do somethingrather than nothing in the other
summertime activities. Andhere's a great exercise. It's
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one and it's it's not hard todo, and it doesn't require a ton
of effort. And that's to pullthe team together and go, Hey,
we're entering summer. Thingschange in the summer. Maybe
there's more traffic becauseeverybody's on vacation. Maybe
your kids are home and you'remore distracted because you got
to take care of them at night,or you're rushing to get home.
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What are the additional hazardsand no bad ideas just, what are
the additional hazards that wecan share with each other that
come up in our work during thesummer, and sometimes the
recognition of just, you know, Iam hurried because there's more
baseball games, or I get to behome with my kids, or they're
not in school, so I need to begetting home, or there's more
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traffic on the road, and a lotof vacationers come to our town.
There's a lot of really goodideas that our teams have that
they can just share theknowledge of, hey, it's out
there. Be more careful. Maybeit's insects, maybe it's snakes,
maybe it's environmental thingsthat we work in. In the area
that we're in, more tractors onthe road. I see that in my area,
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a lot more farm equipment andfarm things going on to be aware
of when we're driving. Ofcourse, road work very prominent
during this time of year, and wedon't have to solve it all. We
can talk about good ideas tosolve it, but sometimes just
bringing it up allowing us toremind each other that the
summertime, just like thewintertime, brings a variety of
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extra hazards, or the potentialfor hazards. There's just more
of it happening, like more treetrimming, more roof work, those
things that we can protectagainst. Just ask the question.
Encourage others to talk aboutit. Maybe you know someone that
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works for a company that doesn'thave a great leadership safety
program. You can mention it tothem. Hey, just share that with
your rest of your company. Seeif it takes something is better
than nothing, one is greaterthan zero, all those great
motivational terms of how asimple action can maybe make a
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difference. We may not knowprevention is a weird thing. You
You don't necessarily knowyou've made a difference, but
you hope you have, and I hopeI've made a difference today in
the podcast. I hope maybe welearned something. I hope maybe,
maybe we just shared with eachother what a tough, tough start
to summer we're having, and whatcan we do about it. Thanks for
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joining me. Really appreciateyou joining me for this episode
of the leading and learningthrough safety podcast. This is
the official kind of like rightbefore July 4 Edition. Please be
careful with the fireworks.
Hopefully you keep all your handand fingers and all those
things, be careful, and untilnext time we chat, stay safe.
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