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September 16, 2025 31 mins

Are you overlooking the potential in “hard” people? What if the most difficult students or employees hold untapped greatness? And what happens when you help people see their progress when they feel stuck or broken?  


We’re starting season 2 of Leading Outward by sitting down with Ivan Cornea, a beloved high school art teacher whose classroom became a place where struggling and rejected students grew into confident leaders, artists, and human beings. In one of his final interviews before his passing, Ivan shares remarkable stories of seeing “difficult” people as people and how those lessons apply to all of us whether we are a leader, parent, coach, friend, or teacher. 


Ideas we explore: 

00:57 – How to unlock potential in people others have written off. 

03:12 – How to help people who feel stuck or broken see their progress. 

08:49 – What to do when someone resists growth. 

13:40 – How to balance patience with demanding the best. 

18:15 – Is it possible to tailor your approach to every individual? 

25:30 – What’s the most important shift leaders must make to truly see people as people?


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