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July 15, 2025 44 mins

About Greg Shove:

Greg is the CEO of Section and a 6x founder and CEO of tech-powered companies that rode 3 previous tech waves—Internet, Cloud, and Mobile—with $250M in exits. He’s also a founder at Machine and Partners, an AI consultancy helping companies identify and prototype AI products, and Personal Math, a newsletter for professionals in their 30s and beyond.

 

In this episode, Dean Newlund and Greg Shove discuss:

  • AI’s ability to expose organizational dysfunction and enhance well-run systems
  • How leaders must adapt their mindset to effectively integrate AI tools
  • The growing influence of AI on coaching, learning, and professional development
  • Shifting definitions of human experience in an increasingly AI-mediated world
  • The ethical and strategic implications of AI usage in business environments

 

Key Takeaways:

  • Before implementing AI, leaders must audit internal workflows to ensure structured processes. Otherwise, AI will simply magnify existing chaos and inefficiency.
  • Developing AI fluency through consistent, hands-on interaction builds confidence, especially for non-technical users, and lays the groundwork for meaningful integration into daily work.
  • AI-driven role-playing and adaptive conversation tools are already replacing traditional, static training methods in soft skill development, especially in coaching and feedback scenarios.
  • Creating shared AI “projects” loaded with company knowledge enables collaborative problem-solving, faster onboarding, and continuous organizational learning.

 

"AI is going to be a truth serum for organizations, because... you're going to find out how broken your processes are.” — Greg Shove

 

Connect with Greg Shove:  

Website: https://www.sectionschool.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sectionschool &

https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregshove/

 

See Dean’s TedTalk “Why Business Needs Intuition” here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEq9IYvgV7I

 

Connect with Dean:

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgqRK8GC8jBIFYPmECUCMkw

Website: https://www.mfileadership.com/

The Mission Statement E-Newsletter: https://www.mfileadership.com/blog/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deannewlund/

X (Twitter): https://twitter.com/deannewlund

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MissionFacilitators/

Email: dean.newlund@mfileadership.com

Phone: 1-800-926-7370

 

Show notes by Podcastologist: Hanz Jimuel Alvarez

Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

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