March 15, 2025 • 30 mins
Welcome to another empowering episode of the Leap to Success podcast! This week, host Mary Gaul sits down with Mary Kominska, a multi-passionate entrepreneur and creator of the transformational T program. Mary Kominska shares her inspiring story of resilience and growth, her 19-year career with Avon, her dedication to helping others heal from the inside out, and her practical approach to boundaries, self-care, and entrepreneurship.
If you're looking for inspiration and actionable strategies to grow personally and professionally, this episode is for you!
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Hello hello and welcome to the latest episodeof the Leap to Success podcast.
The Leap to Success podcast is where wehighlight incredible women entrepreneurs who
are taking bold leaps in business and life.
I'm your host, Mary Gahl, and I believe thatsuccess is built through connection,
contribution, and celebration.
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Each episode, we bring you inspiring stories,expert insights, and actionable strategies to
help you grow and thrive as a solopreneur.
So let's dive into today's conversation withfellow Leap for Ladies member Mary Kaminska.
I am excited to introduce you to our globalpodcast listeners, within the Leap community.
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Our LEAP community member, Mary Kaminska, andshe's got a couple of businesses, but her
business is called Best and Beautiful You.
So she finds ways to bring you bring out thebest and beautiful you.
I'm so excited to share her gifts and talentswith our listeners today.
So Mary, thank you.
I think I can remember your name easily enough.
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It's great to have another Mary on the show.
Welcome to the show!
Thank you and hello everybody.
Thanks for having me Mary and there's somethingabout Mary, right?
There is something about Mary, all right forsure.
So Mary, tell our listeners a little bit aboutyour story and what makes you so awesome.
Well I will tell you that my entire story isavailable on my website but I will give you the
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Reader's Digest version.
I live in Mesa, Arizona with my incrediblehusband and my four legged dog Titus.
Scott asked me to marry him when I was 18 yearsold and I said no.
And, he never married, never had kids.
For me, that was a different story.
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And we are actually celebrating twelve years ofmarriage in May of this year.
Nice.
I know.
And it wasn't Facebook that brought us backtogether.
It was part of my healing of wanting to undosome wrongs that I had done or thought I had
done, which I didn't do, but, you know, we tendto make it all about us sometimes.
So that's a little bit about my home life.
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I left the corporate world not by choice.
I actually had been working full time incorporate, and my manager actually had
suggested that I do Avon because she was tiredof ordering from Avon.com because back then,
and you still can, but it's about relationshipand and so, I have done home based businesses
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since I was 18 years old and you can only haveso much dinnerware and.
Yeah.
So much, so many baskets and so many candlesand so you only have so many walls to decorate.
And so I was never, able to go any farther inthose businesses.
And so when she had suggested Avon, I thought,well, why not?
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Because I don't like I'm not your girl to callto go shopping with.
I'm not her.
But I still need my everyday needs.
I still need all the things.
And I remembered grandma selling Avon back inthe eighties.
And so, you know, sure, what what have I got tolose?
And ended up joining this June.
Will be nineteen years in the business.
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Wow.
Good for you.
It is and and there's been a lot of ups anddowns and sideways and upside down turns along
the journey.
But absolutely incredible.
And, through, you know, when when we're incorporate, we're not really encouraged to learn
and heal and grow and stretch yourself.
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They kind of want a robot.
And so being an entrepreneur with Avon reallyguided me to do that.
And then I had a lot of healing from mychildhood and my early days of life in my
twenties and thirties to heal from and wasgiven that space and time and that kind of led
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me to a boundaries journey, which then led meto writing my four week course in 2023,
launched it last year in 2024, became apublished author from it at the end of the I
know, right?
I never saw that in my, in my forecastedfuture.
So it's not on my vision board.
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Let me put it that way.
Yeah.
So that is a little Oh, and I started teachingin November so I kind of have my hands in a lot
of different things.
I love it.
I love Avon.
I've used Avon my entire life.
My mom sold another beauty product when she wasin in the 80s and 90s But just and then I have
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a sister that sold Avon for a number of yearsas well.
And, you know, some of their things are just soclassic and so standard that you just if you
use them, you just always use them.
Right?
Because they're just part of how you do things.
I love that they've around for a long time,right?
And they have that consistency.
You've seen in nineteen years a lot of changesin the beauty product industry and just how
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people perceive themselves and you know, whatkind of products we're buying and all the, you
know, anti aging and all that kind of stuff isout there now, too.
And so, you know, there's just so many newthings that it's always good to talk to a
person.
I think, you know, for those of you that don'tknow, Avon is an online platform and you might
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see the catalogs, right?
So maybe at your nail salon or I see them everyonce in while.
Was like, Oh there's an Avon catalog!
Have a trivia question for you, Mary.
How long do you think Avon has been inbusiness?
Oh I'd say well over one hundred years right?
You are correct one hundred and thirty eightyears before women even had the right to vote.
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Wow wow
Yes.
And then a fun fact is back in 2018, a companythat you may be familiar with called LG.
Maybe you've had a phone in the past or a TV orsomething.
They have a home and household household andhome.
I always get that confused.
It's H and H.
That's all.
Yeah.
And they bought the North America side of Avonin 2018.
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So now we can offer Korean beauty and, a lot ofother products.
And, you know, you had commented before we gotwe started recording on my shirt, and I said oh
thank you I love shopping at my store.
Like literally my fashion, my jewelry, my lips,my skincare, my hair care, my body, all of it,
everyday needs.
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I don't need to go to any other store because Ihave it all in one stop shop.
Yes love that love that that's great.
Yes and I love the story, when my sister wasinvolved she would win awards of this woman and
I can't remember her name who founded Yes Yeahso her story is pretty incredible too.
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So women supporting women and it's always beenit's always it's typically been there might be
Avon men out there too.
Building the relationship, you know thecommercials growing up were like ding dong Avon
calling and it was your Avon lady coming tochat with you and go through the catalog and
deliver your stuff.
Really it's just all about that relationshipwith somebody else in your community, right,
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which is so powerful.
And now we can do that on the internet, butstill having that person that you can go to for
questions or returning something.
And that's the other thing is, you know,something you can't always do that if something
you just ordered online or something like that,right?
Yeah, And I love being able to do skin careconsultations and makeup consultations via Zoom
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with people who don't live near me or even whodo, but trying to get our schedules together is
really hard.
We also have a really cool tool that there'stwo really cool tools that I love.
One is a virtual try on tool.
And so you put a picture yourself or you'rejust alive and you can play with all the
different, you know, like foundation.
You could do the darkest one and like, oh,right?
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Or make yourself so pale.
It's lots of fun.
And I love I have a friend recently who sent mea picture of herself using it.
And then the other thing I love is I heard yousay the the catalog that you've been flipping
through.
And we do have, and I've got it behind me backhere, we do have our brochure.
We also have a virtual flippable version of itas well.
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Yeah.
It has videos and such.
So, so they're still tried and true, but hipwith today's technology.
Right.
Which is why they've been around so long.
It's because you have to adapt as a businessowner, right?
So
important.
Speaking of adapting, you've had to do someadapting, right?
Going from your corporate world to being abusiness owner, and then now launching your
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course and your products and your book.
So tell us more about the TEA program and whatit's about and who it's for.
Okay, so the TEA program is for everybody and Iknow that that's always a hard thing but it
really is and I I made it to where when I wroteit it was anybody as young as eighth grade to
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as old as 100 years old would get it.
And and kind of where it was born from is, andI'm I love building relationships being
vulnerable and authentic first because thenthat gives others permission to do the same.
And so, my boundaries journey started in 2018the day that I called the police because my son
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was using heroin in my house and he wasarrested on a warrant.
And there happened to be a boundaries classthat was suggested to me by someone who came to
the house that night and happened to be theonly day I was available, the only time I was
available.
And so took that class and then I was asked acouple months later if I would consider co
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facilitating with the gentleman who did it withme, and I kind of laughed and I'm like, I ain't
got these boundaries figured out, and she said,I never will.
It's an ongoing journey.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, even something happened today that I'mlike, man, these boundaries are so tough
sometimes.
And it's not really the boundaries that aretough.
It's the communicating the boundary and thenfollowing through on the consequences of that
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boundary, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
And so, as incredible as the class was, it wasvery scripture based and there was a lot of
people in my life who needed what what theywere talking about but because it was at a
church and because it was very scripture heavy,they wouldn't take it.
I surround myself with people who don't looklike me, who don't think like me, who don't
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believe like me.
So, it was it was very difficult to to share.
I mean, I would share what I learned, but a lotof times you have to have that that hole
because it builds on each other, right?
And so I said yes to co facilitating and thenCOVID happened and we went via Zoom and then
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the main facilitator, his life was changing andI knew that I was being called to write this
course for many reasons.
First of all, everything starts in ourthoughts.
Everything we do starts in our thoughts and theboundaries class is incredible as it is and
never talked about thoughts.
So as a co facilitator, I would come along andsay, you know, it starts in your thoughts.
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So, it also didn't talk a lot about self careAnd self care is not mani pedi.
Self care is forgiveness.
Self care is making your bed in the morning,accomplishing, you know, there's so much more
to self care.
And so week one is, it's four weeks, It's onehour because the boundaries was two and a half
hours and it was anywhere from nine to thirteenweeks.
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Oh, wow.
It was a big huge commitment and we would startto see people and I was one that I'm like, oh
god, here we go again, right?
But I knew what we needed.
And so I knew it needed to be short, sweet, andimpactful and I knew it had to have zero
scripture, zero reference so that any human,it's about the human experience could take
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advantage of this and so week one is all aboutyour thoughts.
Week two is about your emotions with an introto boundaries.
Week three is all about boundaries, and weekfour is about self care.
And what's been really beautiful is when you'vegone through the course the first time, I give
you a code for 50% off so you can get and Iencourage rinse and repeat.
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And in my current class right now, I have alady who went through it in August.
She brought her daughter who's in collegebecause she never taught her kids any of this
because she didn't know any of this.
And so she's gifting it to all of her girls.
Nice.
So I rotate between Zoom and in person everyother month so that I can get the masses,
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right?
Had somebody from Canada join the last Zoom.
It was really incredible.
So it is, I know it's so tough, but it reallyis for everyone and seeing relationships
restored and seeing parents bringing their kidsin going, oh my gosh, you need this.
And the biggest thing I hear over and over Maryis I wish I would have met you sooner.
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And I said the same thing when I startedboundaries.
I wish I would have learned this when my kidswere younger.
Right?
So eventually, my hope and prayer is that itgets into some kind of of school with the moms.
And, you know, I mean, the teachers are prettygood with boundaries, but there's always
something to learn.
Always something to learn.
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Yes.
Yes.
Exactly.
Sorry if you can hear there's a car alarm goingoff and somebody's got
some problems.
In real life.
It's real life.
So sorry.
I don't know whose car that is, but It seemslike it's getting louder all of a sudden too.
But anyway, hopefully it's going to be bigsoon.
But I love that.
I love that.
And these are things that unless you've donesome personal development work, which they
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don't really teach in schools, or they didn'twhen I was going to school.
My kids have been through school for a longtime.
But they don't really teach this to us, likeyou said, in schools.
So if the parents haven't had that experienceand the kids don't get that experience in
school, where are we learning it?
And so that's why courses like this are soimportant to do, and I'm glad that you're out
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there and you're having that impact, multiplegenerational impacts as well as international
impacts, which I love.
One of the things you said earlier isboundaries, but the boundaries are the easy
part, right?
It's kind of like I tell my clients, settinggoals is the easy thing.
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It's actually taking executing on those goalsand implementing the strategies that's where
the hard work comes in.
Writing down your goal is not the hard thing,right?
So setting the boundary is not the hard thingit's actually making sure that it gets upheld
and the consequences are there and thenfollowing through on those consequences.
So I think that's so important for people tohear.
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How do you take all of this information fromyour T program and blend it into the name of
your company is You.
and So how do you blend that together?
So a great question.
So best and beautiful you is the umbrella.
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So, your outside beauty is Avon, is, you know,your skin carrier, you know, on the outside.
But what's interesting, I'll be 56 next monthand I'm told how I look younger now than I did
when I was in my 20s because I healed from theinside out.
Can only put so much makeup and so muchskincare and so much.
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But if the inside is not pretty, then it'syou're just you're just covering it up, right?
And so the inside portion is where I'm a also amaster mindset coach, and I do life coaching.
And so that is an umbrella of best andbeautiful you, the umbrella of my tea course,
Avon, my life coaching, pretty much everything.
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And I empower you.
I don't help you.
I empower you to be the best and beautiful youyou were created to be.
And my core, just really quick to go back to mytea course, which you kinda see behind me and I
always point the wrong way.
Yeah.
But it is an actual full fledged 89 pageworkbook that gives you tools and gives you
words and gives you everything.
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And the four week course is only $80.
Wow.
Wow.
Again, I wanted it affordable.
There were three people I was doing this forfree all the time and there were three people
that said, Mary, you need to start charging foryour time and and that's kind of where the
whole journey began.
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And I know there's courses out there thatcharge $500 and up.
And that's one of the reasons I didn't heal foras long because I couldn't afford something
like that.
Right?
Right.
So not only did I want it short, sweet, andimpactful, I wanted it affordable that anybody
could take it.
And then again, you get to do it over and overagain for $40.
And if you want a workbook every single time,I'll send you the workbook or in person I bring
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the workbook.
But if you do a Zoom, I mail the work Amazonmails the workbook, but
right yeah,
it's in the system for Amazon to do it,
Yes, yeah, that's fantastic.
I love that.
I love that and really, you know, making it Ilove your little phrase, short, sweet, and
impactful.
There are so many things, I think the stats,the last stat I've heard about people buying
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online courses that they never even open, it'sin the 80% of people buy a course and then
never even open the course.
Sometimes or they might open it once and theygo in there and they get so overwhelmed and
there's so much information or there's 27videos they have to watch and all this kind of
stuff.
I love that you've condensed it down to hereare the things you need to know and the tools
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and resources you need to do, and then let's goand do it.
Right?
But if you need help, come back.
And it's not a video.
It's you get me a tour every week for fourweeks.
Have a friend who was paying $125 withinsurance for a therapist.
And when she met me and she was like, Oh, okay,dollars 80 to get you for four weeks.
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Okay, I'm signing up.
And she signed up and she said, I learned morein your four weeks than I have six months with
my therapist.
Wow.
Wow.
So, yeah, it's not a video.
That's the thing.
It's like, it's it's it's me and.
Yeah.
You get my stories and you get real lifeapplications and a time to answer questions at
the end, not a whole lot of time but because itis only one hour and there's a lot of
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information that I compact in to every singleweek.
Nice, nice.
And Mary, you mentioned you do them once amonth online and then another month you rotate
between in person and online.
So you're in Arizona.
We're going to put all of your contactinformation in the show notes, but if
somebody's listening or driving or whatever,what's the best way for people to learn more
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about the TEA program?
So you can go on to my website,bestandbeautifulyou.com.
All spelled out, bestandbeautifuly0u.com.
And then you'll see a TEA course tab on thetop.
It's the very first tab.
And it always has the next two upcoming classesthat you can register for.
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And I only allow 10 in each class.
And I've learned that the hard way because thebigger it is, the harder it is.
And I want it to be a little bit more intimateas well.
Now I did have one where they there was acouple that asked if they could do it and I was
already at capacity.
So there's times where if you reach out to me,if it's already sold out, you reach out to me
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based on the questions I ask and how youanswer, I may go ahead and allow you to join us
for that one.
Good to know.
So just for our listeners out there, wheneveryou're listening to this or watching this
video, go check out the website and get intothe next class.
Mean, it's really almost a no brainer, right?
Because if you need well, we all need this kindof work, right?
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So whether you think you need it or not, you doneed it.
You'll get some value out of it.
Well, it is.
$80.
That's a great
It is.
And and I'll tell you that even rinsing andrepeating is so important.
Right?
But then when you teach it, you're held to ahigher standard as well.
Right?
And so I learn something every single week.
I just learn with you.
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I hear a story from somebody and I was like,oh, that's good.
I didn't think of that, right?
So, I am continuously learning along with youeven though I'm teaching it.
I've done it.
I've wrote it but at the same token beinghumble and knowing that I don't have it all
figured out.
Yeah, yes.
It's just so important.
And it's so important to hear from peoplebecause you project as very successful and
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you've got things together and you've got allthese wonderful offerings, right?
But we're human beings and we have our ownquestions and our own struggles and those kind
of things.
I love that being vulnerable and letting peoplesee you as a real person when you're teaching
something is really positive.
So I have a couple of questions.
I just want to dive into some of these.
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So you've been in Avon for nineteen years andin your own business now for a couple of with
the TEA program and writing a book and all ofthat kind of stuff.
So what has been one of your biggest lessons orsurprises along the way, and how did it shape
your business or your life?
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Well, that's a good question.
So I would have to say the biggest surprise iswhen I worked at corporate, I had somebody
telling me what to do, when to do it, how to doit.
And so when I got laid off, I was alreadymaking more with my quote unquote side gig of
Avon.
I was already making more doing that than I wasmy corporate full time job.
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And so when I was laid off, I was like, okay,I'll take the weekend off and then I'll just do
this full time.
It took me eight years to figure how to make itwork because again, back to boundaries.
Right?
Right.
Sometimes the hardest boundaries we ever haveis with ourselves.
Just saying.
Yes.
And you don't have somebody telling you what todo, when to do it, how to do it.
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You have to create it, and then you have tosurround yourself with people that are gonna
hold you accountable
Mhmm.
To it as well.
And and when somebody says, well, did you dothis?
That is a close ended question, and askinghaving people around me that ask me open ended
questions.
What happened when you got to bed at this timeor you went and did this at this time, right?
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Right, right.
And so that was a big surprise that I didn'tthink it was gonna take me eight years to
figure this thing out.
Yeah.
I still struggle like every day is, you know,but you have to go to bed at night with what
your goals are for the next day and how whatyour plan is to accomplish them every single
day.
Because if you just wake up and you don't havethat plan and that mission, then everything
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else is prettier and that's shinier and that'swhat's going to come Exactly,
exactly.
So that's kind of my next question isentrepreneurship can be a wild ride, right?
Never know what's going to come your way.
COVID happens, whatever happens, right?
So what daily habits or practices help keep yougrounded and moving forward?
So you just alluded to really kind of closingdown your day, prepping yourself for the next
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day.
What other kind of practices have you put inplay that help you, kind of get through those
challenges of the crazy ride we're on?
Well, and the fact that you said the wordgrounded, what keeps me grounded is my faith.
And so I book in my days in the morning,there's a Bible plan on the YouVersion app and
at night because there's still this handheldthing that needs to happen, right?
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Yeah.
As
as good as technology is there's still thishandheld thing.
So, when I crawl into bed at night, so I bookend of my day.
So, the morning is the Bible app and at nightis the three sixty five devotional, that I do
and that kinda keeps me grounded and thenpraying my way throughout the day.
Because here's the bottom line too, is I builtmy kingdom to watch it fall.
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There was a point in time where I was numbertwo in the state of Arizona.
Mary made some poor choices.
Avon made some poor choices.
And so in in really realizing that I'm a vesseland all blessings come from him and I need it
to be his will not mine and he sends me who Ineed and I love them and care for them and and
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show them his love and that's what keeps megrounded and that's ultimately what keeps me
going because I I wake up every morning aftermy Bible plan.
I'm like, alright, god.
Well, who who are you bringing me today?
What you got for me today?
Mhmm.
And and that's kind of what keeps that driveand the grounding at the same token.
Nice, very nice, very nice.
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So many of our listeners out there might be onthe edge of taking a big leap in their lives.
What is your best piece of advice for takingsome bold action with confidence?
Stop talking about it and start doing it.
Nice, love
Surrounding yourself with positive people.
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There are so many negative people again, allstarts in our thoughts, right?
There are so many negative people and somebodyyou might think is positive, they can smush
that dream in a heartbeat.
One of the the powerful things in my course toothat is don't take advice from people who
criticize you.
And I think a lot of times that's what we tendto do.
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And so telling people what you've done, notwhat you're going to do.
So instead of tell.
Right?
Remember back in school it was show and telltime.
Right?
So instead of telling people, show them.
Yes.
Yes.
Love that.
I love that.
Yeah.
And as far as taking that big leap, really youjust need to start taking some action.
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Some people get so paralyzed like if I make amistake or what's going to happen if I do
something wrong or I take the wrong action?
And as we know, if you're an entrepreneur thatwill happen.
Yes, it will happen.
Just get out there and by taking action that'show you're going to learn.
And yes, of course surrounding yourself withpositive people and people who have already
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gone through what you're going through, You canlearn a lot from them, but you still have to
take the action.
Right?
It's part of that the process.
You still have to
do it.
Even in week one of t, I talk about failure,and one of the quotes there's growth work, and
no one wants to do homework.
I call it growth work.
And so the growth work, one of the questions iswhen did you become afraid to fail?
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Mhmm.
And I love the same fail forward.
So you're gonna try it, and you're probablygonna fail at it, and that's great.
Look at how long Thomas Edison didn't fail atthe light bulb a thousand times.
Yeah.
Took a thousand steps to create that lightbulb, and you and I both have light bulbs on
right now.
And I bet our listeners, if they're listening,if they're driving, they probably don't have a
light bulb on their car.
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Right.
Yeah.
But, you know, they probably have a light bulb.
And so every time I think of, like, that's forme an internal motivation because motivation is
internal, it's not external.
And because I'm about to, like, be fearfulabout trying something new, even my book, for
example, you know, having tea become aworkbook.
I think of Thomas Edison and his words of athousand steps not failing a thousand times.
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And so how many steps do you have to my son whostruggles with addiction, you know, how many
steps?
And then one step forward, 15 back.
But you just keep taking that next step forwardand eventually you're going to get there.
Yes, yes.
Great, great advice.
Okay, so we're going to wrap up our time today.
So thank you again, Mary, for being suchinspiration in the world and for helping us be
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our best and beautiful selves.
I love that.
For our listeners, please please please, youknow, check out the show notes if you're
driving.
Do that when you get back to your safe spacewhen you're not moving.
But if you're watching at your desktop oryou're on your phone, check out Mary's contact
information and go and check out when the nextTEA workshops start.
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If you can get one locally, I'm sure that'samazing to be in the same room with Mary, but
if you can do it on Zoom, you get the workbookand everything, so that's a great way to have
her help you.
And again, it's a live session instead of arecording, so quit buying all these recorded
courses and just get the help you need with alive person, live human being.
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In this age of AI, which I love AI, I use thetechnology all the time, but we do need to have
that connection with other human beings.
And so even if it's on a Zoom call or you knowif you can get to a live class it's even
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We need that connection.
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Hello hello and welcome to the latest episodeof the Leap to Success podcast.
The Leap to Success podcast is where wehighlight incredible women entrepreneurs who
are taking bold leaps in business and life.
I'm your host, Mary Gahl, and I believe thatsuccess is built through connection,
contribution, and celebration.
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Each episode, we bring you inspiring stories,expert insights, and actionable strategies to
help you grow and thrive as a solopreneur.
So let's dive into today's conversation withfellow Leap for Ladies member Mary Kaminska.
I am excited to introduce you to our globalpodcast listeners, within the Leap community.
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Our LEAP community member, Mary Kaminska, andshe's got a couple of businesses, but her
business is called Best and Beautiful You.
So she finds ways to bring you bring out thebest and beautiful you.
I'm so excited to share her gifts and talentswith our listeners today.
So Mary, thank you.
I think I can remember your name easily enough.
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It's great to have another Mary on the show.
Welcome to the show!
Thank you and hello everybody.
Thanks for having me Mary and there's somethingabout Mary, right?
There is something about Mary, all right forsure.
So Mary, tell our listeners a little bit aboutyour story and what makes you so awesome.
Well I will tell you that my entire story isavailable on my website but I will give you the
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Reader's Digest version.
I live in Mesa, Arizona with my incrediblehusband and my four legged dog Titus.
Scott asked me to marry him when I was 18 yearsold and I said no.
And, he never married, never had kids.
For me, that was a different story.
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And we are actually celebrating twelve years ofmarriage in May of this year.
Nice.
I know.
And it wasn't Facebook that brought us backtogether.
It was part of my healing of wanting to undosome wrongs that I had done or thought I had
done, which I didn't do, but, you know, we tendto make it all about us sometimes.
So that's a little bit about my home life.
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I left the corporate world not by choice.
I actually had been working full time incorporate, and my manager actually had
suggested that I do Avon because she was tiredof ordering from Avon.com because back then,
and you still can, but it's about relationshipand and so, I have done home based businesses
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since I was 18 years old and you can only haveso much dinnerware and.
Yeah.
So much, so many baskets and so many candlesand so you only have so many walls to decorate.
And so I was never, able to go any farther inthose businesses.
And so when she had suggested Avon, I thought,well, why not?
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Because I don't like I'm not your girl to callto go shopping with.
I'm not her.
But I still need my everyday needs.
I still need all the things.
And I remembered grandma selling Avon back inthe eighties.
And so, you know, sure, what what have I got tolose?
And ended up joining this June.
Will be nineteen years in the business.
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Wow.
Good for you.
It is and and there's been a lot of ups anddowns and sideways and upside down turns along
the journey.
But absolutely incredible.
And, through, you know, when when we're incorporate, we're not really encouraged to learn
and heal and grow and stretch yourself.
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They kind of want a robot.
And so being an entrepreneur with Avon reallyguided me to do that.
And then I had a lot of healing from mychildhood and my early days of life in my
twenties and thirties to heal from and wasgiven that space and time and that kind of led
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me to a boundaries journey, which then led meto writing my four week course in 2023,
launched it last year in 2024, became apublished author from it at the end of the I
know, right?
I never saw that in my, in my forecastedfuture.
So it's not on my vision board.
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Let me put it that way.
Yeah.
So that is a little Oh, and I started teachingin November so I kind of have my hands in a lot
of different things.
I love it.
I love Avon.
I've used Avon my entire life.
My mom sold another beauty product when she wasin in the 80s and 90s But just and then I have
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a sister that sold Avon for a number of yearsas well.
And, you know, some of their things are just soclassic and so standard that you just if you
use them, you just always use them.
Right?
Because they're just part of how you do things.
I love that they've around for a long time,right?
And they have that consistency.
You've seen in nineteen years a lot of changesin the beauty product industry and just how
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people perceive themselves and you know, whatkind of products we're buying and all the, you
know, anti aging and all that kind of stuff isout there now, too.
And so, you know, there's just so many newthings that it's always good to talk to a
person.
I think, you know, for those of you that don'tknow, Avon is an online platform and you might
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see the catalogs, right?
So maybe at your nail salon or I see them everyonce in while.
Was like, Oh there's an Avon catalog!
Have a trivia question for you, Mary.
How long do you think Avon has been inbusiness?
Oh I'd say well over one hundred years right?
You are correct one hundred and thirty eightyears before women even had the right to vote.
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Wow wow
Yes.
And then a fun fact is back in 2018, a companythat you may be familiar with called LG.
Maybe you've had a phone in the past or a TV orsomething.
They have a home and household household andhome.
I always get that confused.
It's H and H.
That's all.
Yeah.
And they bought the North America side of Avonin 2018.
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So now we can offer Korean beauty and, a lot ofother products.
And, you know, you had commented before we gotwe started recording on my shirt, and I said oh
thank you I love shopping at my store.
Like literally my fashion, my jewelry, my lips,my skincare, my hair care, my body, all of it,
everyday needs.
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I don't need to go to any other store because Ihave it all in one stop shop.
Yes love that love that that's great.
Yes and I love the story, when my sister wasinvolved she would win awards of this woman and
I can't remember her name who founded Yes Yeahso her story is pretty incredible too.
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So women supporting women and it's always beenit's always it's typically been there might be
Avon men out there too.
Building the relationship, you know thecommercials growing up were like ding dong Avon
calling and it was your Avon lady coming tochat with you and go through the catalog and
deliver your stuff.
Really it's just all about that relationshipwith somebody else in your community, right,
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which is so powerful.
And now we can do that on the internet, butstill having that person that you can go to for
questions or returning something.
And that's the other thing is, you know,something you can't always do that if something
you just ordered online or something like that,right?
Yeah, And I love being able to do skin careconsultations and makeup consultations via Zoom
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with people who don't live near me or even whodo, but trying to get our schedules together is
really hard.
We also have a really cool tool that there'stwo really cool tools that I love.
One is a virtual try on tool.
And so you put a picture yourself or you'rejust alive and you can play with all the
different, you know, like foundation.
You could do the darkest one and like, oh,right?
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Or make yourself so pale.
It's lots of fun.
And I love I have a friend recently who sent mea picture of herself using it.
And then the other thing I love is I heard yousay the the catalog that you've been flipping
through.
And we do have, and I've got it behind me backhere, we do have our brochure.
We also have a virtual flippable version of itas well.
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Yeah.
It has videos and such.
So, so they're still tried and true, but hipwith today's technology.
Right.
Which is why they've been around so long.
It's because you have to adapt as a businessowner, right?
So
important.
Speaking of adapting, you've had to do someadapting, right?
Going from your corporate world to being abusiness owner, and then now launching your
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course and your products and your book.
So tell us more about the TEA program and whatit's about and who it's for.
Okay, so the TEA program is for everybody and Iknow that that's always a hard thing but it
really is and I I made it to where when I wroteit it was anybody as young as eighth grade to
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as old as 100 years old would get it.
And and kind of where it was born from is, andI'm I love building relationships being
vulnerable and authentic first because thenthat gives others permission to do the same.
And so, my boundaries journey started in 2018the day that I called the police because my son
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was using heroin in my house and he wasarrested on a warrant.
And there happened to be a boundaries classthat was suggested to me by someone who came to
the house that night and happened to be theonly day I was available, the only time I was
available.
And so took that class and then I was asked acouple months later if I would consider co
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facilitating with the gentleman who did it withme, and I kind of laughed and I'm like, I ain't
got these boundaries figured out, and she said,I never will.
It's an ongoing journey.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, even something happened today that I'mlike, man, these boundaries are so tough
sometimes.
And it's not really the boundaries that aretough.
It's the communicating the boundary and thenfollowing through on the consequences of that
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boundary, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
And so, as incredible as the class was, it wasvery scripture based and there was a lot of
people in my life who needed what what theywere talking about but because it was at a
church and because it was very scripture heavy,they wouldn't take it.
I surround myself with people who don't looklike me, who don't think like me, who don't
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believe like me.
So, it was it was very difficult to to share.
I mean, I would share what I learned, but a lotof times you have to have that that hole
because it builds on each other, right?
And so I said yes to co facilitating and thenCOVID happened and we went via Zoom and then
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the main facilitator, his life was changing andI knew that I was being called to write this
course for many reasons.
First of all, everything starts in ourthoughts.
Everything we do starts in our thoughts and theboundaries class is incredible as it is and
never talked about thoughts.
So as a co facilitator, I would come along andsay, you know, it starts in your thoughts.
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So, it also didn't talk a lot about self careAnd self care is not mani pedi.
Self care is forgiveness.
Self care is making your bed in the morning,accomplishing, you know, there's so much more
to self care.
And so week one is, it's four weeks, It's onehour because the boundaries was two and a half
hours and it was anywhere from nine to thirteenweeks.
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Oh, wow.
It was a big huge commitment and we would startto see people and I was one that I'm like, oh
god, here we go again, right?
But I knew what we needed.
And so I knew it needed to be short, sweet, andimpactful and I knew it had to have zero
scripture, zero reference so that any human,it's about the human experience could take
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advantage of this and so week one is all aboutyour thoughts.
Week two is about your emotions with an introto boundaries.
Week three is all about boundaries, and weekfour is about self care.
And what's been really beautiful is when you'vegone through the course the first time, I give
you a code for 50% off so you can get and Iencourage rinse and repeat.
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And in my current class right now, I have alady who went through it in August.
She brought her daughter who's in collegebecause she never taught her kids any of this
because she didn't know any of this.
And so she's gifting it to all of her girls.
Nice.
So I rotate between Zoom and in person everyother month so that I can get the masses,
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right?
Had somebody from Canada join the last Zoom.
It was really incredible.
So it is, I know it's so tough, but it reallyis for everyone and seeing relationships
restored and seeing parents bringing their kidsin going, oh my gosh, you need this.
And the biggest thing I hear over and over Maryis I wish I would have met you sooner.
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And I said the same thing when I startedboundaries.
I wish I would have learned this when my kidswere younger.
Right?
So eventually, my hope and prayer is that itgets into some kind of of school with the moms.
And, you know, I mean, the teachers are prettygood with boundaries, but there's always
something to learn.
Always something to learn.
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Yes.
Yes.
Exactly.
Sorry if you can hear there's a car alarm goingoff and somebody's got
some problems.
In real life.
It's real life.
So sorry.
I don't know whose car that is, but It seemslike it's getting louder all of a sudden too.
But anyway, hopefully it's going to be bigsoon.
But I love that.
I love that.
And these are things that unless you've donesome personal development work, which they
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don't really teach in schools, or they didn'twhen I was going to school.
My kids have been through school for a longtime.
But they don't really teach this to us, likeyou said, in schools.
So if the parents haven't had that experienceand the kids don't get that experience in
school, where are we learning it?
And so that's why courses like this are soimportant to do, and I'm glad that you're out
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there and you're having that impact, multiplegenerational impacts as well as international
impacts, which I love.
One of the things you said earlier isboundaries, but the boundaries are the easy
part, right?
It's kind of like I tell my clients, settinggoals is the easy thing.
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It's actually taking executing on those goalsand implementing the strategies that's where
the hard work comes in.
Writing down your goal is not the hard thing,right?
So setting the boundary is not the hard thingit's actually making sure that it gets upheld
and the consequences are there and thenfollowing through on those consequences.
So I think that's so important for people tohear.
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How do you take all of this information fromyour T program and blend it into the name of
your company is You.
and So how do you blend that together?
So a great question.
So best and beautiful you is the umbrella.
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So, your outside beauty is Avon, is, you know,your skin carrier, you know, on the outside.
But what's interesting, I'll be 56 next monthand I'm told how I look younger now than I did
when I was in my 20s because I healed from theinside out.
Can only put so much makeup and so muchskincare and so much.
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But if the inside is not pretty, then it'syou're just you're just covering it up, right?
And so the inside portion is where I'm a also amaster mindset coach, and I do life coaching.
And so that is an umbrella of best andbeautiful you, the umbrella of my tea course,
Avon, my life coaching, pretty much everything.
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And I empower you.
I don't help you.
I empower you to be the best and beautiful youyou were created to be.
And my core, just really quick to go back to mytea course, which you kinda see behind me and I
always point the wrong way.
Yeah.
But it is an actual full fledged 89 pageworkbook that gives you tools and gives you
words and gives you everything.
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And the four week course is only $80.
Wow.
Wow.
Again, I wanted it affordable.
There were three people I was doing this forfree all the time and there were three people
that said, Mary, you need to start charging foryour time and and that's kind of where the
whole journey began.
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And I know there's courses out there thatcharge $500 and up.
And that's one of the reasons I didn't heal foras long because I couldn't afford something
like that.
Right?
Right.
So not only did I want it short, sweet, andimpactful, I wanted it affordable that anybody
could take it.
And then again, you get to do it over and overagain for $40.
And if you want a workbook every single time,I'll send you the workbook or in person I bring
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the workbook.
But if you do a Zoom, I mail the work Amazonmails the workbook, but
right yeah,
it's in the system for Amazon to do it,
Yes, yeah, that's fantastic.
I love that.
I love that and really, you know, making it Ilove your little phrase, short, sweet, and
impactful.
There are so many things, I think the stats,the last stat I've heard about people buying
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online courses that they never even open, it'sin the 80% of people buy a course and then
never even open the course.
Sometimes or they might open it once and theygo in there and they get so overwhelmed and
there's so much information or there's 27videos they have to watch and all this kind of
stuff.
I love that you've condensed it down to hereare the things you need to know and the tools
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and resources you need to do, and then let's goand do it.
Right?
But if you need help, come back.
And it's not a video.
It's you get me a tour every week for fourweeks.
Have a friend who was paying $125 withinsurance for a therapist.
And when she met me and she was like, Oh, okay,dollars 80 to get you for four weeks.
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Okay, I'm signing up.
And she signed up and she said, I learned morein your four weeks than I have six months with
my therapist.
Wow.
Wow.
So, yeah, it's not a video.
That's the thing.
It's like, it's it's it's me and.
Yeah.
You get my stories and you get real lifeapplications and a time to answer questions at
the end, not a whole lot of time but because itis only one hour and there's a lot of
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information that I compact in to every singleweek.
Nice, nice.
And Mary, you mentioned you do them once amonth online and then another month you rotate
between in person and online.
So you're in Arizona.
We're going to put all of your contactinformation in the show notes, but if
somebody's listening or driving or whatever,what's the best way for people to learn more
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about the TEA program?
So you can go on to my website,bestandbeautifulyou.com.
All spelled out, bestandbeautifuly0u.com.
And then you'll see a TEA course tab on thetop.
It's the very first tab.
And it always has the next two upcoming classesthat you can register for.
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And I only allow 10 in each class.
And I've learned that the hard way because thebigger it is, the harder it is.
And I want it to be a little bit more intimateas well.
Now I did have one where they there was acouple that asked if they could do it and I was
already at capacity.
So there's times where if you reach out to me,if it's already sold out, you reach out to me
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based on the questions I ask and how youanswer, I may go ahead and allow you to join us
for that one.
Good to know.
So just for our listeners out there, wheneveryou're listening to this or watching this
video, go check out the website and get intothe next class.
Mean, it's really almost a no brainer, right?
Because if you need well, we all need this kindof work, right?
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So whether you think you need it or not, you doneed it.
You'll get some value out of it.
Well, it is.
$80.
That's a great
It is.
And and I'll tell you that even rinsing andrepeating is so important.
Right?
But then when you teach it, you're held to ahigher standard as well.
Right?
And so I learn something every single week.
I just learn with you.
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I hear a story from somebody and I was like,oh, that's good.
I didn't think of that, right?
So, I am continuously learning along with youeven though I'm teaching it.
I've done it.
I've wrote it but at the same token beinghumble and knowing that I don't have it all
figured out.
Yeah, yes.
It's just so important.
And it's so important to hear from peoplebecause you project as very successful and
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you've got things together and you've got allthese wonderful offerings, right?
But we're human beings and we have our ownquestions and our own struggles and those kind
of things.
I love that being vulnerable and letting peoplesee you as a real person when you're teaching
something is really positive.
So I have a couple of questions.
I just want to dive into some of these.
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So you've been in Avon for nineteen years andin your own business now for a couple of with
the TEA program and writing a book and all ofthat kind of stuff.
So what has been one of your biggest lessons orsurprises along the way, and how did it shape
your business or your life?
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Well, that's a good question.
So I would have to say the biggest surprise iswhen I worked at corporate, I had somebody
telling me what to do, when to do it, how to doit.
And so when I got laid off, I was alreadymaking more with my quote unquote side gig of
Avon.
I was already making more doing that than I wasmy corporate full time job.
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And so when I was laid off, I was like, okay,I'll take the weekend off and then I'll just do
this full time.
It took me eight years to figure how to make itwork because again, back to boundaries.
Right?
Right.
Sometimes the hardest boundaries we ever haveis with ourselves.
Just saying.
Yes.
And you don't have somebody telling you what todo, when to do it, how to do it.
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You have to create it, and then you have tosurround yourself with people that are gonna
hold you accountable
Mhmm.
To it as well.
And and when somebody says, well, did you dothis?
That is a close ended question, and askinghaving people around me that ask me open ended
questions.
What happened when you got to bed at this timeor you went and did this at this time, right?
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Right, right.
And so that was a big surprise that I didn'tthink it was gonna take me eight years to
figure this thing out.
Yeah.
I still struggle like every day is, you know,but you have to go to bed at night with what
your goals are for the next day and how whatyour plan is to accomplish them every single
day.
Because if you just wake up and you don't havethat plan and that mission, then everything
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else is prettier and that's shinier and that'swhat's going to come Exactly,
exactly.
So that's kind of my next question isentrepreneurship can be a wild ride, right?
Never know what's going to come your way.
COVID happens, whatever happens, right?
So what daily habits or practices help keep yougrounded and moving forward?
So you just alluded to really kind of closingdown your day, prepping yourself for the next
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day.
What other kind of practices have you put inplay that help you, kind of get through those
challenges of the crazy ride we're on?
Well, and the fact that you said the wordgrounded, what keeps me grounded is my faith.
And so I book in my days in the morning,there's a Bible plan on the YouVersion app and
at night because there's still this handheldthing that needs to happen, right?
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Yeah.
As
as good as technology is there's still thishandheld thing.
So, when I crawl into bed at night, so I bookend of my day.
So, the morning is the Bible app and at nightis the three sixty five devotional, that I do
and that kinda keeps me grounded and thenpraying my way throughout the day.
Because here's the bottom line too, is I builtmy kingdom to watch it fall.
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There was a point in time where I was numbertwo in the state of Arizona.
Mary made some poor choices.
Avon made some poor choices.
And so in in really realizing that I'm a vesseland all blessings come from him and I need it
to be his will not mine and he sends me who Ineed and I love them and care for them and and
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show them his love and that's what keeps megrounded and that's ultimately what keeps me
going because I I wake up every morning aftermy Bible plan.
I'm like, alright, god.
Well, who who are you bringing me today?
What you got for me today?
Mhmm.
And and that's kind of what keeps that driveand the grounding at the same token.
Nice, very nice, very nice.
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So many of our listeners out there might be onthe edge of taking a big leap in their lives.
What is your best piece of advice for takingsome bold action with confidence?
Stop talking about it and start doing it.
Nice, love
Surrounding yourself with positive people.
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There are so many negative people again, allstarts in our thoughts, right?
There are so many negative people and somebodyyou might think is positive, they can smush
that dream in a heartbeat.
One of the the powerful things in my course toothat is don't take advice from people who
criticize you.
And I think a lot of times that's what we tendto do.
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And so telling people what you've done, notwhat you're going to do.
So instead of tell.
Right?
Remember back in school it was show and telltime.
Right?
So instead of telling people, show them.
Yes.
Yes.
Love that.
I love that.
Yeah.
And as far as taking that big leap, really youjust need to start taking some action.
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Some people get so paralyzed like if I make amistake or what's going to happen if I do
something wrong or I take the wrong action?
And as we know, if you're an entrepreneur thatwill happen.
Yes, it will happen.
Just get out there and by taking action that'show you're going to learn.
And yes, of course surrounding yourself withpositive people and people who have already
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gone through what you're going through, You canlearn a lot from them, but you still have to
take the action.
Right?
It's part of that the process.
You still have to
do it.
Even in week one of t, I talk about failure,and one of the quotes there's growth work, and
no one wants to do homework.
I call it growth work.
And so the growth work, one of the questions iswhen did you become afraid to fail?
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Mhmm.
And I love the same fail forward.
So you're gonna try it, and you're probablygonna fail at it, and that's great.
Look at how long Thomas Edison didn't fail atthe light bulb a thousand times.
Yeah.
Took a thousand steps to create that lightbulb, and you and I both have light bulbs on
right now.
And I bet our listeners, if they're listening,if they're driving, they probably don't have a
light bulb on their car.
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Right.
Yeah.
But, you know, they probably have a light bulb.
And so every time I think of, like, that's forme an internal motivation because motivation is
internal, it's not external.
And because I'm about to, like, be fearfulabout trying something new, even my book, for
example, you know, having tea become aworkbook.
I think of Thomas Edison and his words of athousand steps not failing a thousand times.
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And so how many steps do you have to my son whostruggles with addiction, you know, how many
steps?
And then one step forward, 15 back.
But you just keep taking that next step forwardand eventually you're going to get there.
Yes, yes.
Great, great advice.
Okay, so we're going to wrap up our time today.
So thank you again, Mary, for being suchinspiration in the world and for helping us be
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our best and beautiful selves.
I love that.
For our listeners, please please please, youknow, check out the show notes if you're
driving.
Do that when you get back to your safe spacewhen you're not moving.
But if you're watching at your desktop oryou're on your phone, check out Mary's contact
information and go and check out when the nextTEA workshops start.
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If you can get one locally, I'm sure that'samazing to be in the same room with Mary, but
if you can do it on Zoom, you get the workbookand everything, so that's a great way to have
her help you.
And again, it's a live session instead of arecording, so quit buying all these recorded
courses and just get the help you need with alive person, live human being.
(29:02):
In this age of AI, which I love AI, I use thetechnology all the time, but we do need to have
that connection with other human beings.
And so even if it's on a Zoom call or you knowif you can get to a live class it's even
better.
We need that connection.
A %.
Great, great.
All right, so that is a wrap on our Leap toSuccess podcast.
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I hope that you found some inspiration, somemotivation, and a few golden nuggets to take
with you on your journey.
If you loved this conversation, be sure tosubscribe so that you never miss an episode.
If today's guest resonated with you, if Maryresonated with you, give them some love.
Show Mary some love by sharing this episodewith your community.
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Remember you can find Mary and her contactinformation in the show notes, so wherever
you're listening, whether it's on your favoritestreaming or on YouTube, or you're catching
this on LinkedIn, you can find all of hercontact information there.
If you want to go deeper and if you're lookingfor that sense of community, can join us inside
the LEAP community where you'll find even moreresources, connections, and opportunities to
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show up and grow.
Visit successmagnified.com/leap for ladies tolearn more.
Until next time, keep taking bold leaps,contributing your gifts, and celebrating your
successes.
Thanks so much Mary!
Bye!
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