December 17, 2025 • 42 mins
Terence Shigg discusses the origins and philosophy of Legacy by Design, emphasizing the importance of purpose in personal and professional growth. He recounts a story from a class on organizational systems to illustrate how outcomes reflect true goals. Terence shares his journey, including writing a book during a difficult time and learning from various influences. He introduces his brother, Dwayne, to discuss the upcoming free webinar on December 18th, which will teach participants how to discover and leverage their purpose. The webinar aims to provide tools and insights to create value and align personal and professional goals, ultimately leading to a fulfilling legacy.
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Terence Shigg (00:06):
I just wanted to put a ad in here. I got a
special edition interview at theend of today's podcast. I have
an interview with Dwayne Shigg,who interviewed me about the
upcoming event. So stay tunedafter I'm done, and you can
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listen in on that interview.
Good morning. Welcome back toepisode two of legacy by design.
I hope you enjoyed Episode Oneand got a little taste of what
is to come. Please share andlike and subscribe to these
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podcasts that helps out a lot.
All right, today we are gonna, Iwanted to get into the little
bit of the background of whylegacy by design is so important
to me, and what it's based on,and what are some of the things
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that we're trying to spread andto teach and to give honestly to
people. And I just heard a liveby Myron golden. He says, if you
say honestly, he's wonderingwhat you were saying before. So
myron's listening I I am beinghonest the whole time. It's so
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everything I say is honest whatI am trying to say, is that what
we'll do is, I wanted to giveyou a little bit of the history
of how the systems that havecreated, the programs that have
created this podcast, wascreated to benefit to benefit
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mankind, benefit individuals andorganizations, as I said in my
my first episode. But I guess Ishould back up. This journey for
me started years and years ago,but the pieces started coming
together much more recently. AndI say years and years ago,
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because I wrote a book calledWhat If the secret to
rediscovering your true identityabout 10 years ago, and this was
during a tumultuous, tumultuoustime, I guess in my life, I had
was going through a divorce,move, transitions, all kinds of
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things were going on. And I puttogether that book as a way and
an idea that if I was goingthrough these things, and these
were the tools that I used tohelp me through it, that I could
possibly write those things outand somebody else could benefit
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from them. So that was thereason for that. And part of the
information after doing all thatwas I went to a class once, and
the trainer was there, and itwas class on organizations and
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systems, and the story that Hetold was a story of an inspector
in New York City, and aconsultant who came into New
York City's subway system tospeak on their culture and to
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try and get them to be moreefficient, was the and safer, I
guess, was the the idea. And sothe the gentleman who was called
in to to help them with thistraining and to help them with
their improve their safety, camein and asked to see the records,
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and, you know, the incidentreports, accidents, deaths, all
those things. And he took acouple of days and went through
all the data, and then got allthe key people together, and
they they had a meeting, and oneof the first things he asked in
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the meeting was, what is the thegoal of the the subway, what is
the goal of the theorganization, and several people
said, to provide safetransportation, to provide, you
know, affordable.
Transportation, efficienttransportation. So the basic
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idea with after they were done,is to provide affordable and
efficient transportation to thecitizens of New York and abroad.
You know, tourists. The idea isjust to provide a way for them
to get around the city is thesimplest way to put it. And he
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said, Well, what if I challengethat to say, Yeah, that's one of
the things you try to do, butone of the things you definitely
accomplish every year is youkill 15 people. And so they were
like, Well, no, those areaccidents. That's not what we're
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what our goal is. And he said,but every year, consistently, 15
people get hit by your subwaysand they die. Then they said,
well, well, yeah. He said, thenthat is your if that's your
outcome, outcome, then that isyour goal. And they went through
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the process of how what happens,and how that happens, and how
they have procedures thatprevent and should mitigate all
of these things, and slowly butsurely, the story began to
evolve, that even though theyhad the safety protocols, if
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there had been no accidents,accidents in a while, then what
happens is, if the trains areLate, then somebody gets a call,
and some supervisor callsanother supervisor, who gets on
the conductor and tells him, youneed to speed up. And if he has
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to speed it up, then some ofthose safety protocols and
safety checks have to go out thewindow, because he has to make
sure his trains are on time. Andwith that said? He said, then
your goal is to make sure thetrains are on time, not that
they're safe and that peopledon't die, because that's part
of your system. If part of yoursystem is it's more important
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for the trains to be on timethan for people to be safe, then
your outcome is going to peoplegoing to be that people are
going to die, and after that,they went into some ways to
mitigate that. Meaning, iftrains are late, yes, it can be
notated, but that doesn't meanthat the supervisor needs to get
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on the conductor. They need tounderstand if the train being
late is, you know, going tohappen, and it's not something
that they can mitigate. And theythat their safety protocols are
priority, that late doesn'tmatter, as long as they adhere
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to the safety protocols, it justhas to be notated. And as they
talked about it, they understoodthat your system, and what I
took for it, and what stayedwith me for years is whatever
your outcome is, that's whatyour system is built to do. So
if your system, if your outcomeis unhappiness, if your outcome
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is angry all the time and andlow energy, then that's what
your system is built to producefor you. You it, and that's one
of the things that has made itinto and evolved into my
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programming in this training,because, like I said, my mission
statement is to teachindividuals and organizations
how to develop and implementpositive growth systems. And
those systems are based on whatyour outcome is, not based on
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what you intend them to be. Andthat's a very powerful thing to
recognize is, once you knowthat, once you understand that,
then everything can be changed,everything can be modified.
Everything can be controlled anddirected as you want it to be,
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not just because of society, andthat's one of the things that
especially nowadays, with allthe talks of the economy and
affordability andthis policy and that policy,
it's really important forindividuals. To recognize that
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we have some agency in thisprocess, and we can make these
things how we want them to be.
We can make our lives and designthem how we want them.
Dwayne E. Shigg (10:26):
And I'm so excited. My special guest today
is Terence l Shigg. He is thefounder of legacy by design, and
we're going to talk about that.
Not only is he the founder oflegacy by design, but as you can
gather, he's my brother. Ididn't say little brother
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because he don't like when I saythat. So he's my He's my younger
brother, and I can't say littlebrother because he's taller than
me. But anyway, welcome to theshow. Talk about it. Welcome our
guest, Terence l Shigg, founderof legacy by design. Hello, sir.
Hello.
Terence Shigg (11:07):
How are you doing? I'm doing great. Why are
you yelling at me? Man,
Dwayne E. Shigg (11:14):
okay, I won't yell at you. Then, you know, big
brothers used to doing stufflike that. So, oh,
Terence Shigg (11:19):
okay, okay, okay, it's not me. It's just, yeah,
dynamic style, that's what
Dwayne E. Shigg (11:25):
that's that'll work, that my dynamic style, my
my my my voice and my all thatgood stuff that you just said,
that's what it was, you know.
Okay, alright, we'll take that.
I'll take that. Okay, soundedgood when it was in my head
coming out of my mouth. Butanyway, man, I'm so happy to
have you here. You are thefounder of legacy by design, and
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I trust that the people watchingwill not I trust I know they
will be helped by the thingsconcerning legacy. By design,
you got a great event coming upon the December the 18th. We
want to get into that, butbefore we do that, I already
gave you a semi introduction. Sointroduce yourself, tell the
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people who you are, what you'reup to, and then we're going to
get into legacy by design.
Terence Shigg (12:13):
Okay, well, thank you first of all for having me
on here. Any opportunity that Iget to share this is fun for me,
because this is kind of whateverything's built up to. Legacy
by design is brainchild of adownload between life
experiences, books that I'veread and prayers that have been
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answered. So it's allcombination. And it just seemed
to me that as I experienced morethings, as I went from one
profession to another,profession, retired from one,
started another one. And I thinkwe had this conversation once I
started thinking, I I can't workfor someone else anymore, right?
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Yeah, and it wasn't anythingagainst the places that I work,
but I began to realize thatthere's been a paradigm shift.
And I think a lot of people arebehind the curve with the worry
about AI and GI and talkingabout how we, you know, we're
worried about our job security.
The way to have your jobsecurity is design your life
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such that you have a legacy ofaccomplishments, of wealth,
health and stories that you canpass on. So legacy by design was
really just a brainchild and apassion, thing that I want to be
able to leave for my littleones, but to really teach people
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how to live on purpose andrealize that you don't have to
separate your passion from yourprofession. You can do both of
them, and that's the paradigmthat I want people to realize
that has changed. You don't haveto separate the two. Your
passion doesn't have to be ahobby. It can be what actually
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support you. And even if it'snot a financial thing, it can be
a generational thing, where youcan pass down the things that
you've learned to the nextgeneration. So I've created a
number of products, some of themare coaching for individuals,
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organizations, special groups,anything that I can think of to
help people get that idea andshift that paradigm, faster,
smoother, easier, and to, like Isaid, be able to live their life
on purpose.
Dwayne E. Shigg (15:11):
So all of that sounds good, and obviously I
resonate with that for obviousreasons, obvious to me and you,
because we think alike. But whatabout the person that says,
Well, I don't have what youhave. I didn't graduate from
college. I didn't get a degreeas an MFT, or, you know, I'm not
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a licensed MFT, you know, Idon't have all those things. I
can't I'm just a guy that worksat. Walmart. What do you say to
people that say things likethat?
Terence Shigg (15:44):
I say that you're human and you have intelligence,
and you're working a systemright now. Everybody has a
system, and that is the beautyof the the system that I put
together, and I call it a humana human intelligence system, and
it's basically taking yourpatterns that you already have
and changing them to get whatyou want to get, not what you're
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getting. So I really believe init's a systems approach, and it
came from a book called TheGoal. Where's it at? I got over
here, just in case, a book bycalled the goal, and it's a
theory called the Theory ofConstraints. And the idea is
that the systems are built, andif you want to improve the
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system, you have to find whatthey call the choke point, or
the weakest part of that system,whatever is limiting it, improve
that so that the system works aseffective as possible, and then
do it again, because there'sgoing to be another choke point.
There's going to be anotherthing where the system breaks
down. That's how we live ourlives. We live our lives based
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on a system. And sometimes wewin, sometimes we lose,
sometimes we fail, sometimes wesucceed. My system takes what
you're already doing and helpsyou tweak it so that you can be
successful more often, so youcan enjoy life more often. It's
not complex. It's not new age.
It really is based on just humanbehavior and optimizing it
Dwayne E. Shigg (17:16):
so it's not, you're not, you're not working
to get people, get people tobasically, it's redirecting a
pattern or your word system thatthey're already using. Yes,
okay, okay. And so legacy bydesign is, you know, your
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organization or the group thatyou created. And so the purpose
of legacy by design, as itrelates to all you said, is
Terence Shigg (17:45):
what to break the paradigm. So break that paradigm
that one is of scarcity and oneof is of not having all the
resources that you have. That'snot true. You you have the
resources I love there's a storyI was listening to, and they're
talking about Pat Riley, and itwas one of the assistant
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coaches, and he was saying howhis job got easier since Pat
Riley left. And one of thethings they had traveled to an
arena and they were supposed topractice they got in like, two
o'clock in the morning. They'resupposed to practice at nine in
the morning. And Pat told him,Hey, you know where we're
supposed to practice is all theway across town. Can you find
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some place closer so we don'thave to drive all the way over
there, right? Two o'clock in themorning. And the guy's like,
Well, who am I going to call ittwo o'clock in the morning? I I
can't switch the the practice itit's two in the morning. And he
said, Pat. Riley looked at himand said, Have you tried? He's
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like, No, I haven't tried. Youjust told me I was not supposed
to try. And sometimes that isour limiting belief and our
limited system of, okay, I can'tdo that, but have you tried? I
can't be successful because Idon't have a degree or because I
don't have the experience ofthose people. And then the
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answer is, we'll have you try,try, right? And once you get to
that point where you're willingto accept that it's possible.
Now let's go in and fix thesystem so that you can do that,
because there's plenty of peoplethat have done it, from Tony
Robbins, Myron golden, JesseEisler, all these people started
with nothing, and some of themgot successful and failed in the
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middle of it. So went frommillions to zero and then
started over and not and not.
All of them had college degrees.
So it's possible if one personcan do it. That's a tenant of
neuro linguistic programming.
Talks about how one person cando it, another person can do it,
if you just model that behavior.
And that's what the that's whatmy human intelligence system
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really is based on
Dwayne E. Shigg (19:57):
human intelligence system. So yeah,
have you tried it? Um, yoursister in law had a stroke. You
know that most of our friendsknow that. And then there were
some things that she was notable to do. And then as time
went on, there were some thingsthat she said, I can't do and so
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my response to her was just whatyou said, Try it, and then if
you can't do it, I'll help you.
Try it. And 90% of the time whenshe tried it, she she did it
because she's just that good.
She's just that smart, and soand I'm smart for marrying her.
And so it's. Fix and so. Butyeah, have you tried and there
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is something in the trying orattempting? Yes, you find you.
You find out thing. You findout, okay, I can go up there
five feet, but what happens whenI get to past five feet? Can I
go six, or do I need to make adetour? But you wouldn't have
found that out if you stayed atstep one, five feet back. Okay.
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Sounds good. Sounds good. And soyou will be, you will be, let's
talk about your event on OnThursday, the ninth, the 18th,
talk
Terence Shigg (21:18):
about that. So on Thursday, what I'll be doing is
launching the business. So Ialready formed the corporation.
I formed the the framework forhow to do the training and the
different packages that will beavailable. But I wanted to have
an event where I could teach thetenants of it, break it down, so
people could understand, reallythe simplicity of it, and then
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launch the the program and theproducts that go with it. So
everything from books that I'vewritten, workbooks that I've put
together, journals that I haveand then coaching programs that
I'll be able to teach, eitherone on one or in groups or for
individual organizations.
Because the thing about thissystem is it is something that
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works in the the small and thebig. So it works for the
individual and for the groups.
So organizations can use this,this same method, to improve
their organization. It's beenproven on the Theory of
Constraints, is used through alltypes of organization, right?
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That's one of the tenets of it.
So if you break things down,finding the patterns, and that's
kind of where the skill comesin, is getting the ear well, and
I, I guess I should gobackwards. So before I came up
with this way of doing things,it was always something that I I
had to do, mostly one on one andone at a time, okay, and and
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figure it out each time. What'sa different way to do it
depending on the person? Sobetween my practice and the jobs
that I had that took a lot ofenergy. But it also made me
realize that if it's thatdifficult for me to do it every
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time, how difficult is it forevery individual? Every time you
have a problem, every timesomething comes up, you have to
figure out a new way to solvethis problem. So that was kind
of the the genesis of it. And asI got better and better at it, I
began to realize that there'spatterns to it, and that's from
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reading things like Simon Sinek.
Start with Why. If you figureout your purpose, you figure out
why you do things, then you canfigure out what to do, and then
you can figure out how to do itthat works for one to many. And
so that's, that's the ideabehind it is. It's something
that really gets you to focus onwhat you want and why it is
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important to you, what part ofyou makes this something that is
in your DNA, basically, is whatI think, because your purpose
is, is part of you. And ifyou're walking in purpose,
things flow a lot easier thantrying to figure out every time.
Well, why do I want to do this?
Or it makes it a lot easier.
Dwayne E. Shigg (24:16):
Oh, that's good. That's good. That's good.
Um, uncle scuffy says thatpeople do think Uncle scuffy.
Y'all don't know who that is,but that's our uncle. People do
things for their reasons not tooh, let me back up. Let me back
up. Let me back up, interruptingmyself. You said, You mentioned
your practice. Tell people whatthat is.
Terence Shigg (24:37):
Oh, so I'm licensed marriage and family
therapist, so I do practicetherapy, and so that's what my
practice is, and this is aseparate entity, and that's a
good question. I I'm glad youbrought that up, because
coaching is not therapy. They'retwo totally different things,
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and one doesn't negate the otherand I'm not pitting one against
the other one, but I believethat coaching gives me a little
more freedom to work with peoplethat that want the personal
development and the entrepreneurside, okay, as well as Just
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being able to look at thingsfrom a broader range, meaning we
can look at the the businessside of it, the financial side
of it. We can come up withbusiness plans. We can do
personal develop that includessetting up businesses, LLCs,
websites, because between myselfand my team. Um, we have that
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experience to be able to dothat. So that's what
differentiates it from just thetherapeutic side of it. There's
also an entrepreneur and abusiness side of it too,
Dwayne E. Shigg (25:51):
okay, um, going back to what I was saying uncle
scuffy, he says people do thingsfor their reasons, not yours. So
on Thursday, you know, whyshould people come? I heard you
talking about products and allthat kind of stuff. So for this,
for the for the for the skeptic,for the person that says, Okay,
why would I need to to show upor to come to that? In the words
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of, you know, Janet Jackson,what have you done for me
lately? So why did, why did theyneed to show up on Thursday.
Terence Shigg (26:22):
Okay, so for me, the the main thing that I always
thinks of, and it was part ofwhy I do the webinar and why I
started the company, is createsomething of value that's in
alignment with your values. Ooh,ooh, say that again. Create
something of value that is inalignment with your values.
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That's good. Coming to thewebinar, we will expose,
express, introduce you into howto get into your purpose so that
you can create something ofvalue, okay, and that purpose,
the the importance of it allowsyou to figure out what that
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thing of value is that's inalignment with your value,
because you can't do one withoutthe other, or you can, but in
order for your legacy to be whatyou want it to be, one that is
something that You can passdown, grow and allow to teach
those that come, that comebehind you, be it family,
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friends, co workers, thatpurpose is necessary. So I
always say it's worth the priceof admission just to hear the
information about all of thatwent into the process. So from
the book of the goal to Simoncynics, the why from augmentino,
the greatest salesman in theworld, all that information will
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be combined in this seminar togive you a very simple blueprint
for one why it's important todiscover what your purpose is,
and then to break that paradigmthat says, What am I going to do
with a liberal, liberal artsdegree? Well, this is what
you're going to do with it. It'sgoing to be in a line with your
purpose. You enjoy that for areason. Let's use it
Dwayne E. Shigg (28:11):
right, right, right, right. If you just joined
us, you're joining us on talkabout it. If it's brings
information, inspiration,education and elevation, we talk
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Thank you, man, so much forbeing here. Your focus is on
purpose. You've mentioned thatso many times, so talk a little
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bit about the importance of it.
How do you know what it is? Howdid you know or find out what
your purpose was?
Terence Shigg (29:50):
So perfect question, and I don't even know
if you remember this one, Itruly believe that sometimes
you'll be pushed into yourpurpose, but purpose leaves
clues throughout your life.
There'll be things that feltright, you'll know. But I
remember a specific incident Iwas thinking about this the
other day when we were talkingabout the show. I don't know if
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you remember coaching the YMCAbasketball team that I was on.
Yeah, yeah. So you coach theteam. I remember one time where
at the practice, practice isover with, and some of the the
players were outside, so me andsome of the other teammates were
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outside messing around, and oneof the other guys that was on
our team, he. Took theskateboard from another kid, and
he was riding back and forth,and the kid wanted his
skateboard back, okay, andwithout, don't know, still to
this day, don't know what I wasthinking, because the kid was
bigger than me, but I put myfoot in front of the skateboard,
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so he tripped and flew off theskateboard, and I picked up the
skateboard, gave it to the kid.
Well, of course, he got mad, sohe comes over at me, and he's
yelling at me, and I'm holdingmy ground, but it's time to
leave, and that's when you hadthat green Camaro with this
right down the middle. And sowe're getting ready to leave. So
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I get in the car, and he followsme to the car, and he's yelling
and screaming, and you rememberwhat you did? No, you told me to
go finish. You told me to getout the car, because obviously
you we had something to finishtalking about. Okay, so I got
out of the car. We finishedyelling at each other, we didn't
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fight, but then I got back inthe car. But you know what that
taught me? One part of mypurpose is I am one of those
people that stands in the gap. Iwas I will do it. It's
instinctive for me. I don'tknow, don't know where, well, I
know where it came from. Butthat's, that's part of my
purpose, right? Okay, anotherlesson I learned that day is
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that if you stand up forsomething, if you want to stand
up for something, you better bewilling to fight for it. Oh,
okay, okay, you taught me that.
Dwayne E. Shigg (32:13):
Oh, so those and I like what you said, that
purpose leaves clues. So the thethat incident, helping the kid
and all of that, that was a clueto your
Terence Shigg (32:28):
purpose, right?
Oh, and so that's part of theprocess, is going back finding
those clues and putting them into a system that allows you to
use that efficiently,effectively and in a way that
allows you to be successful.
That'll be profitable, that'llbe happiness. You define that, I
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can't define success withsomething
Dwayne E. Shigg (32:53):
right, right on Thursday, will part of that, and
you may have said it already,will part of that, I think you
did. I just want to reiterateit. Part of the webinar will
will be helping peoplerecognize, discover their
purpose.
Terence Shigg (33:12):
So what I will do is I'm going to teach about that
human intelligence system, okay,stats that go into it, and I'm
going to teach you why purposeis unimportant, how to look up
and find those clues, okay, ooh,and how that can make yourself,
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how you can make yourselfprofitable by using your
purpose. Those will be thetopics that we'll go over
Dwayne E. Shigg (33:41):
so there is profit in your purpose,
absolutely, and that's okay.
That was one of the hardestlesson. And you and I have had a
conversation about this longtime ago. That was one of the
hardest lessons for me to learn.
You know, when I started on thisparticular journey, all of you
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know, dealing with the fact thatit's okay to market yourself.
It's okay to profit from yourpurpose, because my frame of
mind was focused ministry,preaching, getting people saved,
which is what I'm called to do,but also encourage, motivate,
push, teach, and I have had thehardest time fixing my brain to
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let myself know it's okay to usethe purpose, the passion, to
make a profit. I'm helpingpeople, but it's okay if they,
you know, buy a book that'sgoing to help them, right?
Terence Shigg (34:44):
Cuz, if you're creating something of value that
brings value to somebody else,right, then it's going to be
worth something. And my goal isto bring value to people that's
worth way more than what they'llpay me for it.
Dwayne E. Shigg (34:58):
Oh, okay, okay, okay. So Thursday, what time and
how do people sign up so theycan come and get all this
powerful information.
Terence Shigg (35:09):
So it'll be a zoom webinar. So there's a
registration link on, can we putit on here?
Dwayne E. Shigg (35:18):
I can put it in the comments
Terence Shigg (35:21):
when we finish, yeah, so in the comments when we
finish, there'll be a zoom linkwhere you can register, and then
once I open it up at six o'clockon Thursday, I'll just have it
open so that anybody that hitsthe link can come on in. But I'd
like for you to registerbeforehand, just so we have an
idea of how many people aregoing to be. There.
Dwayne E. Shigg (35:40):
Okay, is it legacy by design, 1968 is that
it?
Terence Shigg (35:46):
That's my email.
You can email me there, and thenI'll, I'll get it, get it to
him. But the Zoom link is one ofthose, HTTP w9 4620 things that
make no sense to anybody.
Dwayne E. Shigg (36:04):
Okay, now how much is the registration? That's
what everybody's waiting to findout, because they say, Okay, you
told me that's how much it'sgoing to cost.
Terence Shigg (36:11):
The registration is free. So this is a free
seminar. I want to do this tobring something of value that
will introduce you to thecompany, to the products,
because once you come in and seeit, then you can go and check
out the store everything inthere, from meditations to
workbooks to counseling and tocoaching.
Dwayne E. Shigg (36:32):
Excuse me, right. Great, great, great.
Alright, we got about threeminutes. Man, any last minute
things you want to say aboutThursday, about purpose, about
the sweet potato cheesecake thatyou make. Never mind. I'm sorry
I haven't eaten dinner yet. Soany last words, comments
Terence Shigg (36:54):
you want to give for me, I the one thing that I
have learned as I've done thisand figured this out and put
things together is that I don'tthink we realize how important
purpose is. And the downloadthat I keep going back to is
that purpose is bigger than theperson. Yeah, and if you look
(37:19):
again throughout history, andyou see people that have found
their purpose. It's bigger thanjust them, and that's
everywhere, from the businessworld to the civil rights
movement to Mother Teresa,Martin, Luther King, Denzel
Washington, these people thatare living their purpose are
(37:41):
doing things that impact waybeyond just what one person
could do, just trying to getahead so that, to me, is the
importance of it and
Dwayne E. Shigg (37:55):
running out of time. But I'm drop this here
purpose when you know yourpurpose, it really, you really
can't help but doing it. And soone of the stories I really
remember is one day in highschool, that was 100 years ago,
there was this lady that, ayoung lady that me and my
friends knew that she had justbroken up with her boyfriend.
(38:17):
And you know, when you're 16,that's the end of the world. And
you know, Kenny Johnson, he cameand got me, because of the place
we used to hang out all thetime. He came and got me, and he
said, I got a job for you. Now,I'm I'm 16, and so my job was to
go over there and cheer her up,because she broke, broke up with
her boyfriend 50 years ago, andthat was part of my purpose. But
(38:43):
at that time at Dorsey highschool, I didn't know that that
was my my purpose. I'm justgoing to, you know, keep this
girl from crying, make hersmile. But those are type of
things that I do with the book.
I The teaching with just inconversation and so like you
(39:20):
said, purpose leaves clues, andsometimes at the time, we don't
recognize it's a clue,
Terence Shigg (39:28):
correct, correct.
So, so now you add that into thewhole legacy, Legacy part of it.
And wouldn't it be nice if weknew that 20 years ago, if I
could pass that on to my son andmy daughters and say, These are
the clues you're looking for.
Ah, to go down this road tryingto figure out all I'm going to
(39:51):
give you the blueprint to figureit out so now you can choose.
It's a whole different thingwhen you choose to not serve
your purpose, and you know it,right? And not know it and try
to figure it out. But if I canpass that one thing down to say,
this is how you figure it out,it's worth its weight in gold.
Dwayne E. Shigg (40:13):
And so a lot of times right now, people are
walking day to day, walking pastand walking over clues and
saying, I wish I knew what mypurpose was. And then they go
and help somebody, then they goand fix a car, and then they go
and create something. Then theygo, I went, but the clues are
(40:34):
right there. But because wedon't recognize it as a clue, we
just keep walking past. And so.
On on Thursday, they're going tobe able to identify, how to
identify those clues.
Terence Shigg (40:47):
And yes, and even, what is even more of a
tragedy in in my mind, is theythink that the purpose has to be
a hobby.
Dwayne E. Shigg (40:59):
Ooh, right, right, right, right, right,
right, right, right, right. I dothis on Saturdays. I do this
after I leave my job. I do this.
Yeah. Oh, so the purpose can beyour profit. It can be the thing
you do every day, the thing youcan do after you retire, the
thing you can do when you wantto do it. And it's not just for
now, right? Good, good. Oh, mygoodness, oh, my goodness. Okay,
(41:23):
I know we gotta go. But this isgreat. This is great. And so,
Thursday, eight o'clock. I mean,six o'clock, six. Thursday, six
o'clock, legacy by design, thewebinar the power of purpose,
and there's going to be a linkyou can email him at legacy by
(41:43):
design, 1960 eight.com, or whenwe when you finish watching
this, there's going to be a linkin the comments or at the top
somewhere where you can just hitthe link and you can
participate. And I'm lookingforward to seeing you. It's not
my seminar, my webinar, but, youknow, I'm going to be there. And
so do I? Do I? Do I get bigbrother privileges? Do I get to
(42:06):
sit in the front?
Terence Shigg (42:09):
You need to ask a question. I'll let you ask
Dwayne E. Shigg (42:13):
one question.
111, now, you know that's amistake for a preacher. You know
that, don't you? That's why Isaid one. Oh, okay, everybody,
thank let's thank our guest,Terence l Shigg from legacy by
design, Thursday, six o'clock,be a part of the webinar. The
power of purpose. Thank you, manfor being with me tonight. I
(42:35):
greatly appreciate it. Hold onwe thank you for being with us
participating and talk about it,and just remember if it brings
information, education,inspiration and elevation, We
will talk about it. Stayencouraged. Be blessed. You. You
I just wanted to put a ad in here. I got a
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Good morning. Welcome back toepisode two of legacy by design.
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podcasts that helps out a lot.
All right, today we are gonna, Iwanted to get into the little
bit of the background of whylegacy by design is so important
to me, and what it's based on,and what are some of the things
(01:20):
that we're trying to spread andto teach and to give honestly to
people. And I just heard a liveby Myron golden. He says, if you
say honestly, he's wonderingwhat you were saying before. So
myron's listening I I am beinghonest the whole time. It's so
(01:44):
everything I say is honest whatI am trying to say, is that what
we'll do is, I wanted to giveyou a little bit of the history
of how the systems that havecreated, the programs that have
created this podcast, wascreated to benefit to benefit
(02:09):
mankind, benefit individuals andorganizations, as I said in my
my first episode. But I guess Ishould back up. This journey for
me started years and years ago,but the pieces started coming
together much more recently. AndI say years and years ago,
(02:34):
because I wrote a book calledWhat If the secret to
rediscovering your true identityabout 10 years ago, and this was
during a tumultuous, tumultuoustime, I guess in my life, I had
was going through a divorce,move, transitions, all kinds of
(02:56):
things were going on. And I puttogether that book as a way and
an idea that if I was goingthrough these things, and these
were the tools that I used tohelp me through it, that I could
possibly write those things outand somebody else could benefit
(03:16):
from them. So that was thereason for that. And part of the
information after doing all thatwas I went to a class once, and
the trainer was there, and itwas class on organizations and
(03:39):
systems, and the story that Hetold was a story of an inspector
in New York City, and aconsultant who came into New
York City's subway system tospeak on their culture and to
(04:01):
try and get them to be moreefficient, was the and safer, I
guess, was the the idea. And sothe the gentleman who was called
in to to help them with thistraining and to help them with
their improve their safety, camein and asked to see the records,
(04:25):
and, you know, the incidentreports, accidents, deaths, all
those things. And he took acouple of days and went through
all the data, and then got allthe key people together, and
they they had a meeting, and oneof the first things he asked in
(04:47):
the meeting was, what is the thegoal of the the subway, what is
the goal of the theorganization, and several people
said, to provide safetransportation, to provide, you
know, affordable.
Transportation, efficienttransportation. So the basic
(05:08):
idea with after they were done,is to provide affordable and
efficient transportation to thecitizens of New York and abroad.
You know, tourists. The idea isjust to provide a way for them
to get around the city is thesimplest way to put it. And he
(05:29):
said, Well, what if I challengethat to say, Yeah, that's one of
the things you try to do, butone of the things you definitely
accomplish every year is youkill 15 people. And so they were
like, Well, no, those areaccidents. That's not what we're
(05:51):
what our goal is. And he said,but every year, consistently, 15
people get hit by your subwaysand they die. Then they said,
well, well, yeah. He said, thenthat is your if that's your
outcome, outcome, then that isyour goal. And they went through
(06:11):
the process of how what happens,and how that happens, and how
they have procedures thatprevent and should mitigate all
of these things, and slowly butsurely, the story began to
evolve, that even though theyhad the safety protocols, if
(06:32):
there had been no accidents,accidents in a while, then what
happens is, if the trains areLate, then somebody gets a call,
and some supervisor callsanother supervisor, who gets on
the conductor and tells him, youneed to speed up. And if he has
(06:54):
to speed it up, then some ofthose safety protocols and
safety checks have to go out thewindow, because he has to make
sure his trains are on time. Andwith that said? He said, then
your goal is to make sure thetrains are on time, not that
they're safe and that peopledon't die, because that's part
of your system. If part of yoursystem is it's more important
(07:15):
for the trains to be on timethan for people to be safe, then
your outcome is going to peoplegoing to be that people are
going to die, and after that,they went into some ways to
mitigate that. Meaning, iftrains are late, yes, it can be
notated, but that doesn't meanthat the supervisor needs to get
(07:40):
on the conductor. They need tounderstand if the train being
late is, you know, going tohappen, and it's not something
that they can mitigate. And theythat their safety protocols are
priority, that late doesn'tmatter, as long as they adhere
(08:05):
to the safety protocols, it justhas to be notated. And as they
talked about it, they understoodthat your system, and what I
took for it, and what stayedwith me for years is whatever
your outcome is, that's whatyour system is built to do. So
if your system, if your outcomeis unhappiness, if your outcome
(08:29):
is angry all the time and andlow energy, then that's what
your system is built to producefor you. You it, and that's one
of the things that has made itinto and evolved into my
(08:53):
programming in this training,because, like I said, my mission
statement is to teachindividuals and organizations
how to develop and implementpositive growth systems. And
those systems are based on whatyour outcome is, not based on
(09:14):
what you intend them to be. Andthat's a very powerful thing to
recognize is, once you knowthat, once you understand that,
then everything can be changed,everything can be modified.
Everything can be controlled anddirected as you want it to be,
(09:40):
not just because of society, andthat's one of the things that
especially nowadays, with allthe talks of the economy and
affordability andthis policy and that policy,
it's really important forindividuals. To recognize that
(10:05):
we have some agency in thisprocess, and we can make these
things how we want them to be.
We can make our lives and designthem how we want them.
Dwayne E. Shigg (10:26):
And I'm so excited. My special guest today
is Terence l Shigg. He is thefounder of legacy by design, and
we're going to talk about that.
Not only is he the founder oflegacy by design, but as you can
gather, he's my brother. Ididn't say little brother
(10:47):
because he don't like when I saythat. So he's my He's my younger
brother, and I can't say littlebrother because he's taller than
me. But anyway, welcome to theshow. Talk about it. Welcome our
guest, Terence l Shigg, founderof legacy by design. Hello, sir.
Hello.
Terence Shigg (11:07):
How are you doing? I'm doing great. Why are
you yelling at me? Man,
Dwayne E. Shigg (11:14):
okay, I won't yell at you. Then, you know, big
brothers used to doing stufflike that. So, oh,
Terence Shigg (11:19):
okay, okay, okay, it's not me. It's just, yeah,
dynamic style, that's what
Dwayne E. Shigg (11:25):
that's that'll work, that my dynamic style, my
my my my voice and my all thatgood stuff that you just said,
that's what it was, you know.
Okay, alright, we'll take that.
I'll take that. Okay, soundedgood when it was in my head
coming out of my mouth. Butanyway, man, I'm so happy to
have you here. You are thefounder of legacy by design, and
(11:47):
I trust that the people watchingwill not I trust I know they
will be helped by the thingsconcerning legacy. By design,
you got a great event coming upon the December the 18th. We
want to get into that, butbefore we do that, I already
gave you a semi introduction. Sointroduce yourself, tell the
(12:08):
people who you are, what you'reup to, and then we're going to
get into legacy by design.
Terence Shigg (12:13):
Okay, well, thank you first of all for having me
on here. Any opportunity that Iget to share this is fun for me,
because this is kind of whateverything's built up to. Legacy
by design is brainchild of adownload between life
experiences, books that I'veread and prayers that have been
(12:34):
answered. So it's allcombination. And it just seemed
to me that as I experienced morethings, as I went from one
profession to another,profession, retired from one,
started another one. And I thinkwe had this conversation once I
started thinking, I I can't workfor someone else anymore, right?
(13:00):
Yeah, and it wasn't anythingagainst the places that I work,
but I began to realize thatthere's been a paradigm shift.
And I think a lot of people arebehind the curve with the worry
about AI and GI and talkingabout how we, you know, we're
worried about our job security.
The way to have your jobsecurity is design your life
(13:22):
such that you have a legacy ofaccomplishments, of wealth,
health and stories that you canpass on. So legacy by design was
really just a brainchild and apassion, thing that I want to be
able to leave for my littleones, but to really teach people
(13:42):
how to live on purpose andrealize that you don't have to
separate your passion from yourprofession. You can do both of
them, and that's the paradigmthat I want people to realize
that has changed. You don't haveto separate the two. Your
passion doesn't have to be ahobby. It can be what actually
(14:04):
support you. And even if it'snot a financial thing, it can be
a generational thing, where youcan pass down the things that
you've learned to the nextgeneration. So I've created a
number of products, some of themare coaching for individuals,
(14:55):
organizations, special groups,anything that I can think of to
help people get that idea andshift that paradigm, faster,
smoother, easier, and to, like Isaid, be able to live their life
on purpose.
Dwayne E. Shigg (15:11):
So all of that sounds good, and obviously I
resonate with that for obviousreasons, obvious to me and you,
because we think alike. But whatabout the person that says,
Well, I don't have what youhave. I didn't graduate from
college. I didn't get a degreeas an MFT, or, you know, I'm not
(15:33):
a licensed MFT, you know, Idon't have all those things. I
can't I'm just a guy that worksat. Walmart. What do you say to
people that say things likethat?
Terence Shigg (15:44):
I say that you're human and you have intelligence,
and you're working a systemright now. Everybody has a
system, and that is the beautyof the the system that I put
together, and I call it a humana human intelligence system, and
it's basically taking yourpatterns that you already have
and changing them to get whatyou want to get, not what you're
(16:08):
getting. So I really believe init's a systems approach, and it
came from a book called TheGoal. Where's it at? I got over
here, just in case, a book bycalled the goal, and it's a
theory called the Theory ofConstraints. And the idea is
that the systems are built, andif you want to improve the
(16:31):
system, you have to find whatthey call the choke point, or
the weakest part of that system,whatever is limiting it, improve
that so that the system works aseffective as possible, and then
do it again, because there'sgoing to be another choke point.
There's going to be anotherthing where the system breaks
down. That's how we live ourlives. We live our lives based
(16:52):
on a system. And sometimes wewin, sometimes we lose,
sometimes we fail, sometimes wesucceed. My system takes what
you're already doing and helpsyou tweak it so that you can be
successful more often, so youcan enjoy life more often. It's
not complex. It's not new age.
It really is based on just humanbehavior and optimizing it
Dwayne E. Shigg (17:16):
so it's not, you're not, you're not working
to get people, get people tobasically, it's redirecting a
pattern or your word system thatthey're already using. Yes,
okay, okay. And so legacy bydesign is, you know, your
(17:37):
organization or the group thatyou created. And so the purpose
of legacy by design, as itrelates to all you said, is
Terence Shigg (17:45):
what to break the paradigm. So break that paradigm
that one is of scarcity and oneof is of not having all the
resources that you have. That'snot true. You you have the
resources I love there's a storyI was listening to, and they're
talking about Pat Riley, and itwas one of the assistant
(18:07):
coaches, and he was saying howhis job got easier since Pat
Riley left. And one of thethings they had traveled to an
arena and they were supposed topractice they got in like, two
o'clock in the morning. They'resupposed to practice at nine in
the morning. And Pat told him,Hey, you know where we're
supposed to practice is all theway across town. Can you find
(18:30):
some place closer so we don'thave to drive all the way over
there, right? Two o'clock in themorning. And the guy's like,
Well, who am I going to call ittwo o'clock in the morning? I I
can't switch the the practice itit's two in the morning. And he
said, Pat. Riley looked at himand said, Have you tried? He's
(18:50):
like, No, I haven't tried. Youjust told me I was not supposed
to try. And sometimes that isour limiting belief and our
limited system of, okay, I can'tdo that, but have you tried? I
can't be successful because Idon't have a degree or because I
don't have the experience ofthose people. And then the
(19:10):
answer is, we'll have you try,try, right? And once you get to
that point where you're willingto accept that it's possible.
Now let's go in and fix thesystem so that you can do that,
because there's plenty of peoplethat have done it, from Tony
Robbins, Myron golden, JesseEisler, all these people started
with nothing, and some of themgot successful and failed in the
(19:34):
middle of it. So went frommillions to zero and then
started over and not and not.
All of them had college degrees.
So it's possible if one personcan do it. That's a tenant of
neuro linguistic programming.
Talks about how one person cando it, another person can do it,
if you just model that behavior.
And that's what the that's whatmy human intelligence system
(19:55):
really is based on
Dwayne E. Shigg (19:57):
human intelligence system. So yeah,
have you tried it? Um, yoursister in law had a stroke. You
know that most of our friendsknow that. And then there were
some things that she was notable to do. And then as time
went on, there were some thingsthat she said, I can't do and so
(20:22):
my response to her was just whatyou said, Try it, and then if
you can't do it, I'll help you.
Try it. And 90% of the time whenshe tried it, she she did it
because she's just that good.
She's just that smart, and soand I'm smart for marrying her.
And so it's. Fix and so. Butyeah, have you tried and there
(20:45):
is something in the trying orattempting? Yes, you find you.
You find out thing. You findout, okay, I can go up there
five feet, but what happens whenI get to past five feet? Can I
go six, or do I need to make adetour? But you wouldn't have
found that out if you stayed atstep one, five feet back. Okay.
(21:08):
Sounds good. Sounds good. And soyou will be, you will be, let's
talk about your event on OnThursday, the ninth, the 18th,
talk
Terence Shigg (21:18):
about that. So on Thursday, what I'll be doing is
launching the business. So Ialready formed the corporation.
I formed the the framework forhow to do the training and the
different packages that will beavailable. But I wanted to have
an event where I could teach thetenants of it, break it down, so
people could understand, reallythe simplicity of it, and then
(21:44):
launch the the program and theproducts that go with it. So
everything from books that I'vewritten, workbooks that I've put
together, journals that I haveand then coaching programs that
I'll be able to teach, eitherone on one or in groups or for
individual organizations.
Because the thing about thissystem is it is something that
(22:06):
works in the the small and thebig. So it works for the
individual and for the groups.
So organizations can use this,this same method, to improve
their organization. It's beenproven on the Theory of
Constraints, is used through alltypes of organization, right?
(22:27):
That's one of the tenets of it.
So if you break things down,finding the patterns, and that's
kind of where the skill comesin, is getting the ear well, and
I, I guess I should gobackwards. So before I came up
with this way of doing things,it was always something that I I
had to do, mostly one on one andone at a time, okay, and and
(22:51):
figure it out each time. What'sa different way to do it
depending on the person? Sobetween my practice and the jobs
that I had that took a lot ofenergy. But it also made me
realize that if it's thatdifficult for me to do it every
(23:12):
time, how difficult is it forevery individual? Every time you
have a problem, every timesomething comes up, you have to
figure out a new way to solvethis problem. So that was kind
of the the genesis of it. And asI got better and better at it, I
began to realize that there'spatterns to it, and that's from
(23:32):
reading things like Simon Sinek.
Start with Why. If you figureout your purpose, you figure out
why you do things, then you canfigure out what to do, and then
you can figure out how to do itthat works for one to many. And
so that's, that's the ideabehind it is. It's something
that really gets you to focus onwhat you want and why it is
(23:56):
important to you, what part ofyou makes this something that is
in your DNA, basically, is whatI think, because your purpose
is, is part of you. And ifyou're walking in purpose,
things flow a lot easier thantrying to figure out every time.
Well, why do I want to do this?
Or it makes it a lot easier.
Dwayne E. Shigg (24:16):
Oh, that's good. That's good. That's good.
Um, uncle scuffy says thatpeople do think Uncle scuffy.
Y'all don't know who that is,but that's our uncle. People do
things for their reasons not tooh, let me back up. Let me back
up. Let me back up, interruptingmyself. You said, You mentioned
your practice. Tell people whatthat is.
Terence Shigg (24:37):
Oh, so I'm licensed marriage and family
therapist, so I do practicetherapy, and so that's what my
practice is, and this is aseparate entity, and that's a
good question. I I'm glad youbrought that up, because
coaching is not therapy. They'retwo totally different things,
(24:58):
and one doesn't negate the otherand I'm not pitting one against
the other one, but I believethat coaching gives me a little
more freedom to work with peoplethat that want the personal
development and the entrepreneurside, okay, as well as Just
(25:20):
being able to look at thingsfrom a broader range, meaning we
can look at the the businessside of it, the financial side
of it. We can come up withbusiness plans. We can do
personal develop that includessetting up businesses, LLCs,
websites, because between myselfand my team. Um, we have that
(25:41):
experience to be able to dothat. So that's what
differentiates it from just thetherapeutic side of it. There's
also an entrepreneur and abusiness side of it too,
Dwayne E. Shigg (25:51):
okay, um, going back to what I was saying uncle
scuffy, he says people do thingsfor their reasons, not yours. So
on Thursday, you know, whyshould people come? I heard you
talking about products and allthat kind of stuff. So for this,
for the for the for the skeptic,for the person that says, Okay,
why would I need to to show upor to come to that? In the words
(26:16):
of, you know, Janet Jackson,what have you done for me
lately? So why did, why did theyneed to show up on Thursday.
Terence Shigg (26:22):
Okay, so for me, the the main thing that I always
thinks of, and it was part ofwhy I do the webinar and why I
started the company, is createsomething of value that's in
alignment with your values. Ooh,ooh, say that again. Create
something of value that is inalignment with your values.
(26:44):
That's good. Coming to thewebinar, we will expose,
express, introduce you into howto get into your purpose so that
you can create something ofvalue, okay, and that purpose,
the the importance of it allowsyou to figure out what that
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thing of value is that's inalignment with your value,
because you can't do one withoutthe other, or you can, but in
order for your legacy to be whatyou want it to be, one that is
something that You can passdown, grow and allow to teach
those that come, that comebehind you, be it family,
(27:26):
friends, co workers, thatpurpose is necessary. So I
always say it's worth the priceof admission just to hear the
information about all of thatwent into the process. So from
the book of the goal to Simoncynics, the why from augmentino,
the greatest salesman in theworld, all that information will
(27:50):
be combined in this seminar togive you a very simple blueprint
for one why it's important todiscover what your purpose is,
and then to break that paradigmthat says, What am I going to do
with a liberal, liberal artsdegree? Well, this is what
you're going to do with it. It'sgoing to be in a line with your
purpose. You enjoy that for areason. Let's use it
Dwayne E. Shigg (28:11):
right, right, right, right. If you just joined
us, you're joining us on talkabout it. If it's brings
information, inspiration,education and elevation, we talk
about it, and that's what we'redoing with our guest, Terence
Shigg, the founder of legacy bydesign. Real quick, gotta drop a
commercial in here. I am theauthor of encouragements for
(28:33):
tough times. Just recently, rereleased this book because all
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(28:54):
quit will expire and you willreach your dream desire that's
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(29:14):
authors on Amazon named Shigg.
I'm one of them. The gentlemanyou're talking I'm talking to is
the other one, and our cousin,Simeon is the other one, so you
won't have any problem. Afteryou buy my book, you can even
buy some of their stuff. Okay,welcome back to talk about it.
Thank you, man, so much forbeing here. Your focus is on
purpose. You've mentioned thatso many times, so talk a little
(29:38):
bit about the importance of it.
How do you know what it is? Howdid you know or find out what
your purpose was?
Terence Shigg (29:50):
So perfect question, and I don't even know
if you remember this one, Itruly believe that sometimes
you'll be pushed into yourpurpose, but purpose leaves
clues throughout your life.
There'll be things that feltright, you'll know. But I
remember a specific incident Iwas thinking about this the
other day when we were talkingabout the show. I don't know if
(30:12):
you remember coaching the YMCAbasketball team that I was on.
Yeah, yeah. So you coach theteam. I remember one time where
at the practice, practice isover with, and some of the the
players were outside, so me andsome of the other teammates were
(30:32):
outside messing around, and oneof the other guys that was on
our team, he. Took theskateboard from another kid, and
he was riding back and forth,and the kid wanted his
skateboard back, okay, andwithout, don't know, still to
this day, don't know what I wasthinking, because the kid was
bigger than me, but I put myfoot in front of the skateboard,
(30:57):
so he tripped and flew off theskateboard, and I picked up the
skateboard, gave it to the kid.
Well, of course, he got mad, sohe comes over at me, and he's
yelling at me, and I'm holdingmy ground, but it's time to
leave, and that's when you hadthat green Camaro with this
right down the middle. And sowe're getting ready to leave. So
(31:18):
I get in the car, and he followsme to the car, and he's yelling
and screaming, and you rememberwhat you did? No, you told me to
go finish. You told me to getout the car, because obviously
you we had something to finishtalking about. Okay, so I got
out of the car. We finishedyelling at each other, we didn't
(31:39):
fight, but then I got back inthe car. But you know what that
taught me? One part of mypurpose is I am one of those
people that stands in the gap. Iwas I will do it. It's
instinctive for me. I don'tknow, don't know where, well, I
know where it came from. Butthat's, that's part of my
purpose, right? Okay, anotherlesson I learned that day is
(32:02):
that if you stand up forsomething, if you want to stand
up for something, you better bewilling to fight for it. Oh,
okay, okay, you taught me that.
Dwayne E. Shigg (32:13):
Oh, so those and I like what you said, that
purpose leaves clues. So the thethat incident, helping the kid
and all of that, that was a clueto your
Terence Shigg (32:28):
purpose, right?
Oh, and so that's part of theprocess, is going back finding
those clues and putting them into a system that allows you to
use that efficiently,effectively and in a way that
allows you to be successful.
That'll be profitable, that'llbe happiness. You define that, I
(32:51):
can't define success withsomething
Dwayne E. Shigg (32:53):
right, right on Thursday, will part of that, and
you may have said it already,will part of that, I think you
did. I just want to reiterateit. Part of the webinar will
will be helping peoplerecognize, discover their
purpose.
Terence Shigg (33:12):
So what I will do is I'm going to teach about that
human intelligence system, okay,stats that go into it, and I'm
going to teach you why purposeis unimportant, how to look up
and find those clues, okay, ooh,and how that can make yourself,
(33:35):
how you can make yourselfprofitable by using your
purpose. Those will be thetopics that we'll go over
Dwayne E. Shigg (33:41):
so there is profit in your purpose,
absolutely, and that's okay.
That was one of the hardestlesson. And you and I have had a
conversation about this longtime ago. That was one of the
hardest lessons for me to learn.
You know, when I started on thisparticular journey, all of you
(34:02):
know, dealing with the fact thatit's okay to market yourself.
It's okay to profit from yourpurpose, because my frame of
mind was focused ministry,preaching, getting people saved,
which is what I'm called to do,but also encourage, motivate,
push, teach, and I have had thehardest time fixing my brain to
(34:30):
let myself know it's okay to usethe purpose, the passion, to
make a profit. I'm helpingpeople, but it's okay if they,
you know, buy a book that'sgoing to help them, right?
Terence Shigg (34:44):
Cuz, if you're creating something of value that
brings value to somebody else,right, then it's going to be
worth something. And my goal isto bring value to people that's
worth way more than what they'llpay me for it.
Dwayne E. Shigg (34:58):
Oh, okay, okay, okay. So Thursday, what time and
how do people sign up so theycan come and get all this
powerful information.
Terence Shigg (35:09):
So it'll be a zoom webinar. So there's a
registration link on, can we putit on here?
Dwayne E. Shigg (35:18):
I can put it in the comments
Terence Shigg (35:21):
when we finish, yeah, so in the comments when we
finish, there'll be a zoom linkwhere you can register, and then
once I open it up at six o'clockon Thursday, I'll just have it
open so that anybody that hitsthe link can come on in. But I'd
like for you to registerbeforehand, just so we have an
idea of how many people aregoing to be. There.
Dwayne E. Shigg (35:40):
Okay, is it legacy by design, 1968 is that
it?
Terence Shigg (35:46):
That's my email.
You can email me there, and thenI'll, I'll get it, get it to
him. But the Zoom link is one ofthose, HTTP w9 4620 things that
make no sense to anybody.
Dwayne E. Shigg (36:04):
Okay, now how much is the registration? That's
what everybody's waiting to findout, because they say, Okay, you
told me that's how much it'sgoing to cost.
Terence Shigg (36:11):
The registration is free. So this is a free
seminar. I want to do this tobring something of value that
will introduce you to thecompany, to the products,
because once you come in and seeit, then you can go and check
out the store everything inthere, from meditations to
workbooks to counseling and tocoaching.
Dwayne E. Shigg (36:32):
Excuse me, right. Great, great, great.
Alright, we got about threeminutes. Man, any last minute
things you want to say aboutThursday, about purpose, about
the sweet potato cheesecake thatyou make. Never mind. I'm sorry
I haven't eaten dinner yet. Soany last words, comments
Terence Shigg (36:54):
you want to give for me, I the one thing that I
have learned as I've done thisand figured this out and put
things together is that I don'tthink we realize how important
purpose is. And the downloadthat I keep going back to is
that purpose is bigger than theperson. Yeah, and if you look
(37:19):
again throughout history, andyou see people that have found
their purpose. It's bigger thanjust them, and that's
everywhere, from the businessworld to the civil rights
movement to Mother Teresa,Martin, Luther King, Denzel
Washington, these people thatare living their purpose are
(37:41):
doing things that impact waybeyond just what one person
could do, just trying to getahead so that, to me, is the
importance of it and
Dwayne E. Shigg (37:55):
running out of time. But I'm drop this here
purpose when you know yourpurpose, it really, you really
can't help but doing it. And soone of the stories I really
remember is one day in highschool, that was 100 years ago,
there was this lady that, ayoung lady that me and my
friends knew that she had justbroken up with her boyfriend.
(38:17):
And you know, when you're 16,that's the end of the world. And
you know, Kenny Johnson, he cameand got me, because of the place
we used to hang out all thetime. He came and got me, and he
said, I got a job for you. Now,I'm I'm 16, and so my job was to
go over there and cheer her up,because she broke, broke up with
her boyfriend 50 years ago, andthat was part of my purpose. But
(38:43):
at that time at Dorsey highschool, I didn't know that that
was my my purpose. I'm justgoing to, you know, keep this
girl from crying, make hersmile. But those are type of
things that I do with the book.
I The teaching with just inconversation and so like you
(39:20):
said, purpose leaves clues, andsometimes at the time, we don't
recognize it's a clue,
Terence Shigg (39:28):
correct, correct.
So, so now you add that into thewhole legacy, Legacy part of it.
And wouldn't it be nice if weknew that 20 years ago, if I
could pass that on to my son andmy daughters and say, These are
the clues you're looking for.
Ah, to go down this road tryingto figure out all I'm going to
(39:51):
give you the blueprint to figureit out so now you can choose.
It's a whole different thingwhen you choose to not serve
your purpose, and you know it,right? And not know it and try
to figure it out. But if I canpass that one thing down to say,
this is how you figure it out,it's worth its weight in gold.
Dwayne E. Shigg (40:13):
And so a lot of times right now, people are
walking day to day, walking pastand walking over clues and
saying, I wish I knew what mypurpose was. And then they go
and help somebody, then they goand fix a car, and then they go
and create something. Then theygo, I went, but the clues are
(40:34):
right there. But because wedon't recognize it as a clue, we
just keep walking past. And so.
On on Thursday, they're going tobe able to identify, how to
identify those clues.
Terence Shigg (40:47):
And yes, and even, what is even more of a
tragedy in in my mind, is theythink that the purpose has to be
a hobby.
Dwayne E. Shigg (40:59):
Ooh, right, right, right, right, right,
right, right, right, right. I dothis on Saturdays. I do this
after I leave my job. I do this.
Yeah. Oh, so the purpose can beyour profit. It can be the thing
you do every day, the thing youcan do after you retire, the
thing you can do when you wantto do it. And it's not just for
now, right? Good, good. Oh, mygoodness, oh, my goodness. Okay,
(41:23):
I know we gotta go. But this isgreat. This is great. And so,
Thursday, eight o'clock. I mean,six o'clock, six. Thursday, six
o'clock, legacy by design, thewebinar the power of purpose,
and there's going to be a linkyou can email him at legacy by
(41:43):
design, 1960 eight.com, or whenwe when you finish watching
this, there's going to be a linkin the comments or at the top
somewhere where you can just hitthe link and you can
participate. And I'm lookingforward to seeing you. It's not
my seminar, my webinar, but, youknow, I'm going to be there. And
so do I? Do I? Do I get bigbrother privileges? Do I get to
(42:06):
sit in the front?
Terence Shigg (42:09):
You need to ask a question. I'll let you ask
Dwayne E. Shigg (42:13):
one question.
111, now, you know that's amistake for a preacher. You know
that, don't you? That's why Isaid one. Oh, okay, everybody,
thank let's thank our guest,Terence l Shigg from legacy by
design, Thursday, six o'clock,be a part of the webinar. The
power of purpose. Thank you, manfor being with me tonight. I
(42:35):
greatly appreciate it. Hold onwe thank you for being with us
participating and talk about it,and just remember if it brings
information, education,inspiration and elevation, We
will talk about it. Stayencouraged. Be blessed. You. You
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