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Terence Shigg discusses goal-setting techniques, emphasizing measurable, meaningful, and actionable goals. He references James Clear's "Atomic Habits" and Tim Ferriss's experimental approach. Shigg's elite coaching program aims to enhance clarity, motivation, and purpose. He outlines three rules: make goals measurable, meaningful, and actionable. Minos Azajares, a Cuban American artist in Costa Rica, shares his journey from Cuba to Spain to the US, and Costa Rica, detailing his entrepreneurial ventures and the Blue Gaia project, which aims to create a supportive community for children and pregnant women, integrating art and spirituality.

To view Minos' art go to www.Minosart.net


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Terence Shigg (00:21):
Welcome back to legacy by design. This is
episode three. I am pleased toannounce that on this episode at
the end, please stand by. We'regoing to have an interview with
Minos azajaris, a artist,philosopher, businessman,

(00:42):
entrepreneur and all aroundgenius, in my opinion, good man,
we need more people like him.
Hopefully you'll enjoy theinterview as much as I did. But
before we get to that, I wantedto do with this New Year's
coming up, I wanted to do aquick idea for you, a brief
technique or tool that you canuse for goal setting. Many of

(01:08):
you have probably heard mytheory. I don't believe in
resolutions. I think thatresolutions are a statement that
we can put down, but we it givesit no significance. For us, it's
very easy to ignore aresolution. If you put down a
goal, it's more of a commitment.

(01:32):
And then if you build a systemto back up that goal, it's even
better. And I liken that to aphrase by James clear. He wrote
a book called atomic habits, andin that book, he says, You don't
rise to the level of your goals,you fall to the level of your
system. Now read that one moretime. You don't rise to the

(01:54):
level of your goals, you fall tothe level of your systems. My
elite coaching program is asystem. It's a system designed
to maximize your clarity, yourmotivation and your purpose, to

(02:15):
use all of the things that makeyou who you are, to make it
better and easier and moreefficient for you to do the
things you were called to do.
And I'll get into that more andhow that system came about in
future episodes. But for today,let's just talk about goals.
Everybody around this timestarts to set goals and

(02:37):
resolutions, and we have veryhigh aspirations with that. We
tend to start out, start outstrong, and then kind of wean
down throughout the year. Here'san idea, or here's a way that
you can use for goals throughoutthe year, no matter what time it

(02:58):
is, because it's never too latefor a new goal. I love that
quote, it's never too late for anew goal. So here are my three
simple steps, simple rules,whichever you want to use for
goal setting. Rule number oneis, make it measurable, so treat

(03:19):
it just like it's an experiment.
Tim Ferriss is one of myfavorite authors, and he wrote a
book called The Four Hour Body.
And one of the things i i reallylove to model after Timothy
Ferris is the fact that when hedoes things, he gathers data, he
researches it, he experiments onhimself. He uses himself as a

(03:44):
guinea pig to optimizeperformance, as he says. In that
vein, make it measurable, sothat you can gather data about
how you're doing, whether you'rebeing successful, so you know
what you're looking for. Andbetter yet, even when I say make
it measurable, use very clearlanguage in what your goal is.

(04:07):
For example, if your goal is tolose weight, be specific about
the amount of weight. Evenbetter yet, be specific about
where you want to be on thatweight journey. What do I mean
by that? I mean, instead ofsaying I want to lose 20 pounds,

(04:27):
say I want to be 200 pounds. Thedifference is, your brain will
do and give you reasons toaccept the minimum, if that's
what you tell it, you can lose20 pounds, and gain it back and
still have accomplished thatgoal, but not have accomplished

(04:49):
the intent behind that goal,which was to be healthier, to be
lighter, to be more agile. Maybethink about that. Be clear on
the wording that you use, ifit's Lu. Losing weight, give
yourself a specific weight youwant to be at. First rule is,
make it measurable. Second ruleafter make it measurable is make

(05:13):
it meaningful. And meaningful isan individual thing. If being
healthier I mentioned before, ifthat target weight that you want
to be at is so that you could behealthier, so that you can not
be out of breath, so that youcould have more time, more

(05:34):
energy to spend with your familyand your kids, to play more
games with them, to be more fun,and to not have any of the
medical issues that you have tofeel as though you were 10 years
younger. Those are meaningfulthings. Those are meaningful
reasons to assign to that goal.

(05:57):
And the more meaningful the goalis, the more likely that you
will attain that goal. And thatcomes with everything, if your
goal is to write more, why isthat meaningful? If that's your
purpose, if you're a writer andyou have these stories inside

(06:17):
you that you want to share withthe world, so that they can feel
how you felt when you createdthese characters, and they can
learn things and they can grow,that's meaningful. You're much
more likely to write those 10pages or 3000 words if that's
the meaning behind it. And thethird simple rule is, make a

(06:39):
move. Make a move means dosomething. Make a plan and work
the plan back to our example oflosing 20 pounds. If we know
that exercise is one of thethings that we like to use, if
that's one of our vehicles, thenwe plan to exercise during our

(07:04):
lunch hour. We'll take a walkfor 10 minutes, 15 minutes after
work, we'll go to the gym for 30minutes, 45 minutes. And I'm
even good if you break that goaldown into smaller chunks. One of
my favorite sayings when I getoverwhelmed or people get
overwhelmed is, how do you eatan elephant? You one bite at a

(07:29):
time. Instead of looking at thisenormous goal of writing a book
or starting a budget, buying ahouse, make it small and
manageable. Let's make it small.
Go to the gym three days a weekand move around for a half an

(07:51):
hour. Give yourself successes.
Set yourself up to win. Becausenowhere in that goal does it say
you actually have to exercise.
You just have to go to the gym.
Now, if you exercise during thatphase of this plan, that's a
bonus. The next step to thatmight be go to the gym. Be at

(08:14):
the gym for 30 minutes. Exercisefor 10 minutes. Now you've upped
it to another level. You'regoing to go to the gym. You
exercise for 10 minutes, you'regoing to be there for 30
minutes. You might exercise for15 minutes, figuring I'm going
to be here another 20 minutes.
Another 20 minutes. Anyway, it'sa win. Break your goals down to
measurable, smaller pieces, andthen build up to the final one,

(08:37):
three simple rules for settinggoals. Make it measurable,
gather the data so that you canuse it later, make it
meaningful. Why is this even agoal for you? Why? Why is it
important? And then make a movedo something that will get you
moving towards that goal. Thoseare my three simple rules. I

(09:05):
just wanted to give you a littlebonus right here before New
Year's, and I'm gonna go rightinto the interview, because the
interview was with really well,we got to talking. And, you
know, how old friends are? Youget to talking, and next thing
you know, it's been 30 minutes.

(09:27):
We're going to go into that.
I'll let you hear about Mr.
Azaharis. Let him talk to youand talk about his travels, and
I hope that it's as inspiring toyou as it was to me. Thank you
for being here. Stand by afterthis break. We'll be right back

(09:48):
with our interview.
To start off. Can you introduceyourself? Just tell everybody

(10:08):
who you are, what you do, andthen we'll get to where you are,
because I think that's a coolpart of the story, too.

Minos Azares (10:15):
Okay, okay, yeah.
My name is Minos saharas. I'm anartist, painter, and, you know,
I'm a Cuban American, and I livein Costa Rica now. So, yeah,
this is my fourth country when Ilive already.

Terence Shigg (10:31):
So can you tell, can you tell us a little bit
about how you got to Costa Rica?
Because that is from Cuba to theUS to Costa Rica. Those are kind
of big jumps.

Minos Azares (10:45):
Yeah, well, first I jumped from Cuba to Spain.
Yeah, I jumped first from Cubato Spain, and then from Spain to
the US, from the US to CostaRica. So you know, my wife and I
so have, like, last 18 yearsthinking about a move here, the

(11:11):
project we are working on itright now, and in Costa Rica for
blue Gaia, you know, so you'vebeen here, was the whole idea
about all this, you know, taking18 years, you know, to come and
finally move here cost a lot ofmoney. And, you know, yeah, you
know, this take a long decision.
We back and forth a lot of timehere. But you know, Costa Rica

(12:07):
is not a cheap country, so we,you know, had to do a lot of
things before, you know, we canmove, you know. And so, yeah,
but what's good?

Terence Shigg (12:18):
So now, have you always been an artist, or is
that just been fashion?

Unknown (12:23):
And yeah? Was Yeah? Was I have my art, they are.

Minos Azares (12:32):
Was with me from was a child, so I take a little
classes, not too much when Iwas, you know, and I don't know
when I was, like, a six or sevenyears old with my teacher. And,
you know, from there, I alwayshave it with me, but I don't do
like, you know, professional forlong time because I had to do

(12:52):
other things, you know what Imean. So worry about money. You
know, in my case, like, I was,like, a little bit hard.
Because, you know, you in Cuba,finding things for doing what
you want is really difficult.
So, you know, so, yeah,

Terence Shigg (13:11):
so and so managed to keep doing it, even from Cuba
to Spain to the US. Now, yousaid you had to do some other
things. What are the otherthings you did?

Minos Azares (13:23):
Where did my brother? So I always make a
business, okay, that's, that'sone of the things, because I
remember when I was a child, soI have, like, 11 or 12 years
old. I'm making my firstbusiness. I was in school. My

(13:44):
parents, they don't have enoughmoney to do anything, you know.
I mean, so I discovered at thattime I had to take care of
myself, you know. I mean, so Ilearned. And so I remember,
there is some kids coming fromAfrica, the international
students, and they take, theyare in Cuba and the college. And

(14:07):
I go to the college, I buyWallace at that time. From then,
I remember this. I have a lot ofcolors, you know, and I sell it
to my friend in school. So fromthere, I started to make it so
morning. So from there to now, Inever stopped to make a
business, you know, I mean, soalways, you know, working hard
to try to learn something,

Terence Shigg (14:28):
yeah, all right, so, always been an entrepreneur,
yeah,

Unknown (14:37):
always started a

Terence Shigg (14:39):
business in Cuba.
You had a business in Spain. Hadin Spain,

Minos Azares (14:44):
the US, yes. And the US, yeah. So yeah, because
you know, there is somethinghappened to one of you. You
know, you want to, I don't know,make a business, whatever. So
the first time you try, if hecome in from yourself, you know,
you're not gonna stop it again.
It's difficult, you know, somepeople stop, but in my case,
because I learned so early, orlike, 12 years old, you know

(15:08):
what? I mean, I had no choice. Ihad to do, yeah, and I got a lot
of lessons for that, you know? Imean, so right now, my prospect
for, you know, 51 or years old,I have already so I learned a
lot. And I'm sure you know,what's my best decision to do
business, you know? I mean,because you learn a lot, you

(15:31):
know, not just in the business,in the life, because you always
needed to be, you know, tryingto find some. Thing to learn,
you know? I mean, so you have tobe active all the time, you
know? I mean, yeah,

Terence Shigg (15:45):
and learned as you go, how to do it and what
businesses that would allow youto take care of your family. So
how did you keep yourselfmotivated to keep doing that?
Was it just didn't have achoice. Had to do it or, yeah.

Minos Azares (16:04):
Well, one of the best things I learned, you know,
in Cuba, for example, okay, theproblem we have, for example, in
the United States, on the onEurope, this kind of countries,
so you have a lot of choices formaking business. So you can get

(16:25):
a restaurant you can have, youknow, so I don't know whatever
kind of company you want,because have freedom in Cuba
that is really difficult. So theonly way I discover I can be
successful in Cuba is because Ihave the business I made at that
time. So I, you know, I have alot, a lot, a lot to fail. You

(16:51):
can imagine, you know, becauseyou can have a problem, you
know, like a police with thegovernment, with the inspector
with it's so crazy, you know, sobut if you keep going, I learned
that if you keep going,sometimes you can make it, you
know, I mean, because, like,they are tired, but you know,

(17:11):
you can, you can retire, youknow, you had to do what you had
to do, and that that kicked meout to Spain, you know, I made
The thanks to that business so Ican grow up. I get out from Cuba
to Spain, you know, and then sowas a little bit different,
yeah, yeah,

Terence Shigg (17:30):
no, I'm saying you learn as you go. I

Minos Azares (17:33):
try to read books.
I try to, you know. And for me,I remember from when I was a
child, I, like, for example,learn about spirituality. My
mom, she was really good, andthat she teach me a lot of
things in that. And for me, wasreally good get out from Cuba,
because I can find things youdon't want to find in Cuba. You

(17:56):
know, books, information. Andand when I moved through United
States, was better, even better,because in the United States
there is more book in than inEurope or in Spain. This case,
that spirituality coming is, waswith me all the time, you know.
I mean, so I all the time try todiscover, you know, new books,
new information, you know. Andfor me, was the best thing I can

(18:21):
do. Because I'm, I know, I neverbeen in the church in Cuba.
There is no like a culture forthat. You know, the woman almost
taken out all that you'veinspired spirituality. You had
to, I don't know, you had totrade yourself, you know? I
mean, so we have in Cuba, likeOrishas, which is Afro Cuban,

(18:42):
you know, religion. So it'ssomething makes it so weird, you
know. And, you know, blackmagic, something like that. I
never liked that, you know? Imean, so I my, my mom always
told me there is a God there, sohe can see everything you do.
Just try to do your best always.

(19:07):
And, you know, I learned that,and I always try to apply in my
business, in my life, in my withmy kids, you know, I mean, so
now I'm so happy because, youknow, like I'm learning so fast
right now, you know, I thinkit's because I have more time,

(19:27):
or my I don't know, maybebecause I'm little bit more or
maybe or I'm more focused, butyeah, you know that sometimes
you can open you you mind andinformation coming through you
with All, you know, filter, orwhatever it is, yeah, yeah.

Terence Shigg (19:43):
And so all of those experiences you continue
to learn as you went. And nowit's kind of like now you can
use all of that information inyour your new projects, in your
art and business projects. Andthose coming together as you got

(20:04):
older.

Minos Azares (20:05):
Yeah, of course, yeah. Because just look so I
just foretell you a little bit.
I make a person for in Cuba. Myfirst business after I, you
know, get off from the college,I started to, you know, selling
product from the, you know,Farmer product, you know, I

(20:25):
mean, fruit, you know,vegetable, those kind of things.
So I learned a lot that's make,you know, that's helped me to
make a lot of money and get outfrom there, you know, being in
my house, those kind of thing inCuba. So when I get out, so I
moved to Spain. I opened, Iopened their construction
company. So I've been there for,I don't know, until 2008 when it

(20:50):
come in the crash from, youknow, from the real estate
business, you remember. So atthat time I was in Spain. So I
have a lot of debt withbusiness, because, you know, at
that time, everything was withcheck and credit. So, you know,
the bank don't pay me. I know itwas so crazy, but I learned a

(21:11):
lot. And finally, you know, Ipay everything, and everything
was dude, but it was good, butI, you know, I just closed the
company, and I started otherbusiness at that time. I made my
wife and we started at thattime, 2008 we opened another
business was, you know, clothingbusiness. You have a lot of

(21:33):
experience in business, clothingbusiness with her dad, and we
started there too. So I movedwith this business to Los
Angeles. We've been in downtownLA for two, three years. You
know, spend a lot of money inrent, crazy learning in English
a little bit. You know, what'sgood? You know, after that, I

(21:55):
opened a business for truckdrivers. So I buy a truck. I buy
a trailer. You know, runningaround the US was really crazy,
but all the time I was, youknow, back and forth with my
art, always painting when I havea time, you know, I mean, but

(22:16):
nothing professional at thattime, because was difficult for
me. I had no time. I had mykids, so I had to, you know,
provide money for the house, youknow. So, yeah, so you had to do
what you had to do. So, but ifat the end of the day, you know,
all that, you know, appear in mylife with really good

(22:40):
background, you know, I can dowhatever I want. I had no
problem to do anything, sure,whatever I decide to do, I don't
have I don't have to callnobody, you know, rumor,
electricity dry a truck, youknow, I don't know it's crazy,
right? Yeah. So what's good?
Yeah. So you never imagined thiskind of happened. Because, you

(23:05):
know, right now thinking in Godprospected you think it's okay,
my goodness, what I had to doall those kind of things so, but
I learned right now, hepreparing me for now. You know,
I mean everything I do before Idid before he prepared me for
now. So which is, for me now isperfect, because I have a lot of

(23:28):
experience, you know? I know. Idon't know even, for example,
all the things regarding to oneof you export product from one
country to the other country.
But we, we made a clothing atthat time in Italy, and we send
it to United States. We will, wesell this italic clothing. So we
made Italy, so we send it toUnited States. So, you know, you

(23:50):
learn a lot from cheap thecontainer. Yeah, you know what I
mean. So I learned a lot. Sowhat's good? Because in all
those things, sorry, Iinterviewed you, because all
those things, you know, comingthrough me, in all those times

(24:11):
my wife was with me, all thesetimes she's my partner, and all
those things he come in with me,supporting me, you know? So we
finally, when we decide movehere. I told her, we good. We
are ready. Let's go. You knowwhat I mean? Because we, I
think, if he will, if at thattime she I moved from Cuba to

(24:31):
Costa Rica directly, which itwas possible. But for me, I
don't want to do at that time. Ican do, I can be like I am right
now. You know what I mean? So,so ready, yeah. So, yeah.

Terence Shigg (24:46):
And I think that's that's amazing, the
transition from all thedifferent jobs, from, you know,
the selling the wallets togetting a trucking company to
being the construction guy andall those things. You think,
Well, you are. You're doing itbecause you have to. But now you

(25:07):
get to Costa Rica, and it'slike, oh, okay, I can use all of
those things now, and now I canuse them for me and my projects,
and the things that I want to toleave to my kids and for
generations to come. Yeah,which, that's a pretty powerful
thing.

Minos Azares (25:26):
Yeah, it's really good because it's not a possible
you can see it before, you know.
I mean, you're thinking, youknow that the good thing about
this is, when you see the allthe movement, you. Make it, or
the, you know, back and forth,up and down. So you don't want
to see at that time. But, youknow, some people say it is God

(25:47):
is now breaking you. Is ispreparation? He prepared you,
right?

Terence Shigg (25:57):
So Exactly, yeah, and I, and just speaking from
experience and from the timethat I got to meet you and on
your land, the energy and thethe love you have for that land
and that project is evident injust seeing the seeing the glow

(26:18):
on your face when you're walkingaround and talking about this
part and that part, and that isthe goal, I think, that all of
us want to get to at some point,is seeing all of our work come
to a place where now it makessense, okay, now I can see going
forward that all that stuff inThe back was for Yeah, and

(26:41):
that's a beautiful thing.

Minos Azares (26:43):
Yeah, it is, you know, is, is just a little bit,
I don't know a story about mywife. When I met her, she said,
because she coming from thebackground? She and firmer, I
don't remember her name is.

Terence Shigg (27:06):
They'll translate it, yeah.

Minos Azares (27:07):
And firmer. She was in the infer meta for the
and, okay, oh yeah. So she wantto do that, because she, at that
time, she want to, you know,open, like hospital for kids,
those kind of things, she said.
She wrote a letter before shemade me, she wrote a letter. She

(27:29):
said, I want a person like this,like this, like this, like this.
She make a letter and send it toGod. I appear in her life. She
told me, you the guy, okay, ifyou say so. So it's crazy,
because, you know, all we did onin this time, you can put it

(27:51):
together. And you can see, rightnow, and say, oh my goodness,
crazy, how everything is can beconnected, you know what? I
mean? Yeah, amazing, yeah,amazing, as

Terence Shigg (28:05):
they say, God is good all the time. He knows what
he's doing,

Minos Azares (28:09):
always, always, the hard part is for us to
understand, you know, yeah, Ijust covered just a few days
ago, how, you know, because inthe church, in the books, God is
love is, you know, is, I don'tknow, he don't put it, he don't

(28:30):
like you. It's just love. Youknow, it's hard for the people
sometimes to understand, youknow, what is mean, what it
means, you know, I discovered afew days ago, let me tell you,
because, yeah, I had, I read alot of book, and always they

(28:53):
said, Oh, sometimes they said,so when something bad happened
to you, God is preparing youjust keep positive mind, you
know, and doing good things.
Because what if you continuethat way, it can give you
something better than that, thatyou want before, right? But
normally, when you have someproblem or condition in your

(29:18):
life, you know, thinking likethat, how you put and die it's
gonna be good for you, you know.
I mean, so

Terence Shigg (29:26):
you're thinking, why is this happening to me?
What did

Minos Azares (29:29):
I Yeah, yeah, so.
And then it's, you know, I takea time for me, a long time, to
learn that and and try todiscover, and then one day it's
like the Oh, my goodness, that'scrazy, because you can, even,
you know, manipulate the, Idon't know, the matter, in order

(29:53):
to you feel better, orsomething, what you want coming
through you, you know me. Idon't know if it's crazy. I
don't know my wife. You know, mywife told me sometimes you
little bit crazy and say, Okay,leave me alone. I have a long
time practicing this. You know,

Terence Shigg (30:12):
you're an artist.
We as artists, we got to be alittle bit crazy, right?

Minos Azares (30:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, I've been in LA, Ithink it was, yeah, was this
year, and have a la art show.
And I, you know, I present mycollection for, I call it Pura
Vida, your life, constantly.
Okay, yeah, so, like a 15 yearsago, I think in the for me, and,

(30:44):
you know, the universe is likebarcode. So I have that idea.
Tell me why. You know what? Ithink the universe is like a
barcode. Everything isinformation. So every bars is
means a number with information.

(31:09):
You know, I been with that for,yeah, last, last 15 years, so I
don't find how integrate that inmy art. So last year, when I was
when I moved first time to CostaRica. So I discovered, like a
few years ago, some lab theythey find that everything alive

(31:36):
have a chromosomes, like we havechromosomes. So yeah, but I know
we have chromosomes, but noteverything, plants, animal,
fruit, everything. So so doeshave some numbers. You know, as
you have the for the humanbeings, you have 24 chromosomes.
Okay, so at that time, Idiscovered I can integrate toss

(31:58):
number in my my barcode. And forme, was like a crazy because,
say, my goodness, I was alright.
So that's the way I can connectto this, you know, because
everything that is, I have along list about chromosomes,
plants, animals,

Terence Shigg (32:15):
fruit, and you incorporated that into your
artwork,

Minos Azares (32:19):
yeah, because the idea for that was the genetic
manipulation, or the the, youknow, we have in the fruit,
vegetable, those kind of things.
So back in four when I was in LAthis year, so the people asking,
Hey, what is the number? What iswhat is it mean this number,
what is for? I explained and,oh, it's chromosome. They told

(32:43):
me, You are scientists orsomething like that. No, I'm
just a crazy guy that normalpeople, they don't worry about
this, you know, in my case, isvery important, because, you
know, I'm so worried about allthose things around me, you
know. I mean, for me, it'sreally important to understand

(33:05):
everything I don't know, youknow, I need to be, you know, go
deep in, you know, to try todiscover something. You know, I
try to investigate more so I canall the time, because I feel
it's like I never stopped to tryto, you know, learn something.

Terence Shigg (33:24):
It's that curiosity, and I think that
curiosity is not only what makesyou a good entrepreneur, but
it's what makes you a goodartist and a good human being.
Because that level of curiosity,that wanting to know always
leads to the inevitable partthat we're all connected, which

(33:47):
is the part that always gets,gets forgotten. And not only are
we connected, but we'reconnected to everything else
too. So everything, yeah, andthat allows a whole different
perspective on things and makesmakes what you do even more
important, because, just likethey asked you the question
about the DNA or the genetics ofmanipulated vegetables or

(34:14):
fruits, now that opens thediscussion to go, Okay, what
impact is it having on us ifwe're manipulating fruits and
then we're consuming it andputting into our bodies and and
that is a whole another level ofawareness that you're providing
to people that you wouldn't eventhink of of

Minos Azares (34:33):
going to even, yeah, of course not. And even
right now, from what I know, allbodies have vibration. So I
discovered like, you know,finding like, I want to you have
a do Aha, you know, I mean thatmoment, so I have it my aha
moment, yeah, so, so Idiscovered I was right, because

(34:57):
if you manipulate some kind offruit or or whatever you eat you
put in your body. Sodebiliration you have in your
body is not a saying, you know,so and you go really deeper
level. So, you know, you had tobe really conscious about how

(35:18):
you throw it, you know you youtreat, I don't know the food
you're gonna eat. Yeah, youknow, I mean, so because, you
know those kind of things,because it's vibration coming
through your body you wanted youeat in it with bad things. Bad
decision about is affecting yourbody and it's affecting your
life,

Terence Shigg (35:37):
right? It matters. Yeah.

Minos Azares (35:40):
Yeah, so it's, you know,

Terence Shigg (35:42):
that is that's amazing. And one of the things I
also wanted to have you talkabout a little bit is, if you
want just kind of share your, Idon't know if it's the project,
but your your purpose, your ideaof what you want to do, not just
with the land, but with ingeneral, going forward, because

(36:05):
I know you're very passionateabout it, yeah? And tell your
wife. I said hi, by the way.

Minos Azares (36:10):
Yeah, she's around. Yeah. So we, you know,
because we saw this kind ofproblem we have in our society,
you know, in the US, in Europetoo. That's one of the reason,
because, at the beginning, we mywife, want to put it a place,
but she love, you know, bringkids to the alive or the, you

(36:35):
know, pregnant woman, those kindof things. So, so, but then, so
we decided, so, okay, we, whenwe buy the land, we see, okay,
we have enough space. We can dothe what we want together here
we have can do it at school. Webecause she was like, you know,
I said before therapies for kidswith autism. So, yeah, so to

(37:02):
say, Okay, if we had we want todo some things good, we had to
not just put it a place for themom can bring the kids this war
just they can they. They neededgood school for and they can
learn from the air, interactwith, not to, you know, thinking
better things you you don'tlearn in a normal school. You

(37:24):
know, school is just two, twoplus two, and that's, you know,
I mean, so, no, no, this kind ofthing you want to learn. So, and
we said, okay, yeah, this very,really good idea, if we get all
the things we can create, like abubble where, you know, the new
generation can burn and live andstay, you know. And that's align

(37:49):
everything you know with withus. You know what? I mean. It's
so amazing because you know. Andfor example, in my art, it's not
everybody can understand. Youknow, I know that, but I don't
care. You know, it's none of mybrother. I do what I had to do
because God told me at some timeyou had to do this. It's coming

(38:10):
through my mind. And let me tellyou this, I can do anything
different that I can so I canput a combine from in front of
me, I had no choice to paintingsomething with the messages. For
me, it's really important have amessage always. So I told my
wife, you know what? So that ismy art, and the blue Gaia

(38:35):
community is everything is thesame. You know what I mean. So,
no, yeah. So had to be, youknow, it's like a book with
everything inside, you know whatI mean? So for me, it was, is
just perfect, just

Terence Shigg (38:52):
and I loved the time that I had to interact with
you guys and to learn about youryour goal and your mission,
because it is something that'sit's one of those things that's
obvious, but nobody does. Youknow, it's like, yeah, it makes
sense. And I think your wifetold the story once, and I it

(39:14):
always sticks with me that shewas talking about how we teach
kids, but we don't listen to thekids, and sometimes they have
very good questions. She wassaying that, I think it was one
of your kids that asked herafter you guys were taking them
to the school and, you know,show them which teacher they
had. And he said, Well, how comeI can't pick my teacher? That's

(39:39):
a great question. When we haveour school, guess what? You'll
get to pick your teacher, and tome, yeah, it's one of those
things that you're like, youknow what? That's a good point.
Why don't they get to findsomebody who they sync with,
they connect with that teach, toteach it to their style. That
should be part of it. Okay?

Minos Azares (40:02):
We, for example, in my case, I remember my school
was disaster at that time. Youknow, I remember when there was
a child, I had no kindexperience, like a good
experience with my teacher.
Maybe it's one or two, maybe inall the time. But I remember one
teacher who teach me about artat that time, I was six or seven

(40:25):
years old. At that time, I Iconnected with him like two
years ago. I find that hisphone. I find a guy. I put in
his name to see you. I find himFacebook. And I was crazy
because his son. On. He livingin Texas, in Dallas, Texas, he
have and having his same name tohis father, and I connect with

(40:46):
him, say, I looking for a guywith you same name. He said, No,
it's my dad. I said, Yeah,because I've always remind him,
you know, I mean, was reallygood teacher. He's teaching me a
lot of good thing, a lot so, sojust imagine if you have a
teacher like that in the school.

(41:08):
How can change the life of thekids? You know what I mean? So
it's crazy, because they don'twant to forget at any time,
because they want to love go toschool. Those are those kind of
teacher. You want to see himevery single day, because, you
know is they can tell you a lotof experience. You can imagine

(41:28):
this school, and that's the ideawe have, you know, we had to be
different.

Terence Shigg (41:35):
I applaud you guys, and I think that's a that
is something that's going to bevery powerful, not if it
happens, but when it happens.
Because I'm believing thesethings are going to these things
are going to happen. It's just,

Minos Azares (41:49):
yeah, it's a matter of time. It's just a
time. You know, one of thethings talking about God,
because I like it, talking aboutGod, even when I be in the
church. So I did coversomething. So, you know, like,
explain you before in Cuba, wehave the practice normally the

(42:11):
people uses is for Cubanreligion, okay, so, so when the
people have a problem, they goto see somebody who have a does,
kind of, you know, experience.
They do whatever they do, okay,so, but everything, if he, you
know, what I discovered was so,everything is about

(42:33):
spirituality, whatever you do inyour life before coming in a
thought in your brain, so andthen as you execute so in
prospecting, about our projectsright now, for me, is already
these, you know I mean, is inthe, in the universe, already
done, you know what I mean? Soit's just taking time to come

(42:55):
into, you know, collapse withthe

Terence Shigg (43:00):
with this to coincide with our time right
now? Yeah, oh, no, I like that.
Yes, I agree with that 100%

Minos Azares (43:08):
Yeah, of course.
You know, that's because we wantit's because it is because it's
beautiful, you know? I mean,it's something we need in this
world today,

Terence Shigg (43:19):
yeah, and it was, it was already, it'll come to
pass, because it was already,it's meant to be alright. Well,
thanks for sitting down with me,for giving me some insight on
your project and your life. Andone of the things I want to make
sure is tell people where theycan find your artwork, because
I'm sure they they're curious ofhow to appreciate I think it's

(43:44):
awesome. I've seen several ofyour your paintings and your
artwork, and I love it.

Minos Azares (43:49):
Yeah, I do, and I didn't. I just went and started,
I don't know, maybe tomorrowwith the matter is huge. Combat
is, like, I don't know, three orfour square meter for like, a
two and a half, it's huge fromthe ground to the floor. And

(44:09):
it's huge because that is, yeah,that is the, one of the things I
can connect, you know, my mylife right now, like I feel that
I need it so, and nobody knowbefore paying the matters. So
they say, Okay, this is my timeright now. I had to do that, you
know? I mean, because for me,it's like, it's bringing me,

(44:29):
bring me to the moment I livein. You know, the artist,
normally they paint in basins. Idon't know everybody, but, but
then they painted based in thefeeling they have, the moment
they have in their life. If yousee the whole perspective for a
painter, you can see thedifferent moment he has in his

(44:49):
life, because all the timereflect Him. You know what I
mean? Yeah, so that's happenedto me, you know. So I'm going
like a little bit crazy now,right now, for the season, but I
love it. You know what? I mean,

Terence Shigg (45:03):
that's, that's awesome, that's, that is an
artist, that's an artistjourney, and I love it. That's
the way it's supposed to be.

Minos Azares (45:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I appreciate it. So, yeah, man.
So you know, we here. So thankyou for your time, for you the
opportunity to show,you know, allow me to show in
you, you know and do Idon't know, and you channel with
you, conversation with yourfriends. I love you know. You.
You.
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