March 15, 2021 • 8 mins
Legacy Purse producer Xavier Mejia sits down to talk to attorney Leslie Sultan about their new podcast aimed to help people understand the why(s) and how to protect and build intergenerational wealth through estate planning.
This podcast is a product of Sultan Attorney and is produced and edited by Xavier Mejia.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, my name is Xavier Mihir, and I'm the producer and
editor of the legacy purse withLeslie Salton.
I interviewed attorney andfriend Leslie on Saturday, March
13, 2021.
The interview was originallyscheduled for Thursday, March
11th, with the idea that theinterview would air the very
next day.
(00:20):
In fact, the interview wasalready being called a bonus
interview on social media withthe announcement to air on
Friday, then life took me bysurprise.
When I received a text messagefrom Leslie a few hours before
the interview.
Leslie, are you comfortabletalking about what happened on
your end this past Thursday?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
So as everyone who's listening in current times today
is March 13th, 2021.
We're about a year into theCOVID 19 pandemic and my family
and I have almost made it thisfar without contracting COVID,
but on that day that we were,um, scheduled to record, uh,
(01:04):
someone in my family householdtested positive, and it was, you
know, really stressful.
I had to take on the role of,you know, hustling everybody to
get tested, getting myselftested, apparently, you know,
not, uh, adults can'tnecessarily be tested where the
pediatrics get tested and thePDFs, the kids can't get tested
where the adults get tested.
(01:26):
Uh, so it was just that alonewas a hassle.
And then I'm also in the, was inthe middle of an really ugly,
awful real estate transactionwhere everybody's fighting and
crying.
And I had to like make all thesephone calls and trying to save
the deal and convince people andexplain, and it was just hours
and hours of high intensestress.
(01:48):
I do appreciate being able toshare this because I can relate
more with those of my listenerswho may be caregivers, right?
Who have to step into this roleof taking care of someone.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
How is your loved one doing
Speaker 2 (02:03):
So far?
This member of my household isokay.
Um, he has some, uh, the typicalsymptoms, but is pulling through
Speaker 1 (02:13):
There are people listening right now or wondering
if this person has an estateplan, knowing that there's a
lawyer in the same house.
So I have to ask, does thisperson have an estate plan
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And does not have an estate plan in despite living in
a household with, uh, an estateplanning attorney?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
The next question a listener will have is why not?
Why don't they have a plan?
You know,
Speaker 2 (02:40):
He just hasn't been ready to do it yet.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And staying on the topic of estate planning, what
would happen if this person wereto pass?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
So it's also that reality of if something were to
happen to him, I would be leftdealing with the, all of the
mess of what happens whenthere's no estate plan for
somebody who's eitherincapacitated or passes away.
So, you know, just anotherreminder of why it's important,
(03:09):
not to procrastinate on thesereally important things, even
though it's really easy toprocrastinate and push it off
for all the other quote,important things or, or urgent
things as we distinguish urgentversus important.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Now let's briefly get into the legacy pers podcast.
We have recorded a fewinterviews and the first
interview is set to air onMonday, March 15, let our
listeners know how you havechosen, who to invite onto this
show.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I picked the people that I'm interviewing because I
want to know more too, right?
So, you know, as lawyers, we canonly focus on, on so many areas.
I mean, otherwise we're justspread too thin.
And so for me, I'm focusing ontrusts.
I'm focusing on the estateplanning, I'm moving away from
(03:58):
the litigation, but even I'llhave questions about, um, health
care directives.
And so our first guest was onthe top of health care
directives of a living will.
Um, because you know, it's alsoexperiential.
So as a lawyer, I haven't had todeal with very many capacity
(04:20):
cases, um, very few.
And they were luckily easilyresolvable.
So even for me, when I want tobe able to express and, and
educate my client about why thisis important, if I don't have
that knowledge and that directexperience, it's harder for me
(04:41):
to help them understand,especially like me, I'm, I'm not
an abstract thinker.
And you know, this is one of thethings you learn in law school.
There's, there's two differenttypes of tests that you take
even to get into law school.
So if anybody has taken theLSAT, there's the logic, there's
the essays.
And then there's the gamesection.
(05:01):
And I found myself really goodat the game section.
Whereas most people are, we'rereally good at the, at the
paragraph, um, reading sectionsof comprehension.
And I found that in law school,there's the type, there are
different types of loss.
So you have constitutional lawwhere it's very theoretical.
It's what a doc for founders in10, when they wrote these
(05:23):
sentences.
And they put that period rightthere, you know, and, and these
really theoretical concepts thatI, I couldn't, I couldn't really
get into, but if you gave mecriminal law and you said,
breaking and entering is, um, ora burglary is, excuse me, if you
gave me a criminal case and yousaid, burglary is a, B, C, and D
(05:47):
breaking and entering intend tocommit a crime and you actually
do it right.
Like I can remember those fourelements and I can, I can know
the crime.
I think the, with, withlawyering is if I haven't had
that experience, I'm not goingto be able to sh to as well
interpret it for my clients.
So that's why I bring on theseguests is also to help me hear
(06:10):
the stories and be able toexplain things to my clients
better
Speaker 1 (06:14):
As a media producer and editor.
I don't always promote the workthat I do.
My name gets added onto credits,but for the most part, someone
else does the job of promotingthe work.
But every so often there comes aproject that feels special from
the very beginning.
These are the type of projectsthat inspire one to want to give
(06:34):
all they have.
One can even say that theseprojects don't feel like work at
the end of the day.
One knows that they're workingon something meaningful.
That's what it's been like forme while working on developing
the legacy pers podcast for thepast few months with Leslie,
what are my favoritedescriptions of the legacy?
(06:55):
Pers is when you hear Leslie sayin the trailer, we are breaking
down complex legal concepts intoeveryday situations so that you
can understand the why's and howto protect and build
intergenerational wealth.
Those words like this podcasthave an intentionality that show
(07:16):
up during each interview andmake no mistake.
This is by design before goinginto law.
Leslie was a community activistin Los Angeles for activism
centered around gang andviolence reduction and
alternatives to incarcerationfor youth and young adults
through asset based communitydevelopment.
(07:38):
I met Leslie in a fellowshipprogram in 2002, where we
produce audio segments forPacifica radio, Los Angeles also
known as Cape PFK.
Leslie would then move to NewYork to attend law school and
graduated from CUNY law in 2008.
But the focus in public interestlaw and has dedicated her law
(07:58):
practice to be in customerservice and client needs focused
in 2015, Leslie became a mom andtoday she is proudly raising two
young daughters while managingher law practice known as the
law offices of Leslie Salton orSalton attorney across social
media.
(08:20):
Subscribe to the legacy pursewherever you listen to your
favorite podcast and make sureto sign up for our
newsletter@legacypurse.com andvisit Leslie's law
practice@saltonattorney.com.
Thank you for listening.
Hi, my name is Xavier Mihir, and I'm the producer and
editor of the legacy purse withLeslie Salton.
I interviewed attorney andfriend Leslie on Saturday, March
13, 2021.
The interview was originallyscheduled for Thursday, March
11th, with the idea that theinterview would air the very
next day.
(00:20):
In fact, the interview wasalready being called a bonus
interview on social media withthe announcement to air on
Friday, then life took me bysurprise.
When I received a text messagefrom Leslie a few hours before
the interview.
Leslie, are you comfortabletalking about what happened on
your end this past Thursday?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
So as everyone who's listening in current times today
is March 13th, 2021.
We're about a year into theCOVID 19 pandemic and my family
and I have almost made it thisfar without contracting COVID,
but on that day that we were,um, scheduled to record, uh,
(01:04):
someone in my family householdtested positive, and it was, you
know, really stressful.
I had to take on the role of,you know, hustling everybody to
get tested, getting myselftested, apparently, you know,
not, uh, adults can'tnecessarily be tested where the
pediatrics get tested and thePDFs, the kids can't get tested
where the adults get tested.
(01:26):
Uh, so it was just that alonewas a hassle.
And then I'm also in the, was inthe middle of an really ugly,
awful real estate transactionwhere everybody's fighting and
crying.
And I had to like make all thesephone calls and trying to save
the deal and convince people andexplain, and it was just hours
and hours of high intensestress.
(01:48):
I do appreciate being able toshare this because I can relate
more with those of my listenerswho may be caregivers, right?
Who have to step into this roleof taking care of someone.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
How is your loved one doing
Speaker 2 (02:03):
So far?
This member of my household isokay.
Um, he has some, uh, the typicalsymptoms, but is pulling through
Speaker 1 (02:13):
There are people listening right now or wondering
if this person has an estateplan, knowing that there's a
lawyer in the same house.
So I have to ask, does thisperson have an estate plan
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And does not have an estate plan in despite living in
a household with, uh, an estateplanning attorney?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
The next question a listener will have is why not?
Why don't they have a plan?
You know,
Speaker 2 (02:40):
He just hasn't been ready to do it yet.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And staying on the topic of estate planning, what
would happen if this person wereto pass?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
So it's also that reality of if something were to
happen to him, I would be leftdealing with the, all of the
mess of what happens whenthere's no estate plan for
somebody who's eitherincapacitated or passes away.
So, you know, just anotherreminder of why it's important,
(03:09):
not to procrastinate on thesereally important things, even
though it's really easy toprocrastinate and push it off
for all the other quote,important things or, or urgent
things as we distinguish urgentversus important.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Now let's briefly get into the legacy pers podcast.
We have recorded a fewinterviews and the first
interview is set to air onMonday, March 15, let our
listeners know how you havechosen, who to invite onto this
show.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I picked the people that I'm interviewing because I
want to know more too, right?
So, you know, as lawyers, we canonly focus on, on so many areas.
I mean, otherwise we're justspread too thin.
And so for me, I'm focusing ontrusts.
I'm focusing on the estateplanning, I'm moving away from
(03:58):
the litigation, but even I'llhave questions about, um, health
care directives.
And so our first guest was onthe top of health care
directives of a living will.
Um, because you know, it's alsoexperiential.
So as a lawyer, I haven't had todeal with very many capacity
(04:20):
cases, um, very few.
And they were luckily easilyresolvable.
So even for me, when I want tobe able to express and, and
educate my client about why thisis important, if I don't have
that knowledge and that directexperience, it's harder for me
(04:41):
to help them understand,especially like me, I'm, I'm not
an abstract thinker.
And you know, this is one of thethings you learn in law school.
There's, there's two differenttypes of tests that you take
even to get into law school.
So if anybody has taken theLSAT, there's the logic, there's
the essays.
And then there's the gamesection.
(05:01):
And I found myself really goodat the game section.
Whereas most people are, we'rereally good at the, at the
paragraph, um, reading sectionsof comprehension.
And I found that in law school,there's the type, there are
different types of loss.
So you have constitutional lawwhere it's very theoretical.
It's what a doc for founders in10, when they wrote these
(05:23):
sentences.
And they put that period rightthere, you know, and, and these
really theoretical concepts thatI, I couldn't, I couldn't really
get into, but if you gave mecriminal law and you said,
breaking and entering is, um, ora burglary is, excuse me, if you
gave me a criminal case and yousaid, burglary is a, B, C, and D
(05:47):
breaking and entering intend tocommit a crime and you actually
do it right.
Like I can remember those fourelements and I can, I can know
the crime.
I think the, with, withlawyering is if I haven't had
that experience, I'm not goingto be able to sh to as well
interpret it for my clients.
So that's why I bring on theseguests is also to help me hear
(06:10):
the stories and be able toexplain things to my clients
better
Speaker 1 (06:14):
As a media producer and editor.
I don't always promote the workthat I do.
My name gets added onto credits,but for the most part, someone
else does the job of promotingthe work.
But every so often there comes aproject that feels special from
the very beginning.
These are the type of projectsthat inspire one to want to give
(06:34):
all they have.
One can even say that theseprojects don't feel like work at
the end of the day.
One knows that they're workingon something meaningful.
That's what it's been like forme while working on developing
the legacy pers podcast for thepast few months with Leslie,
what are my favoritedescriptions of the legacy?
(06:55):
Pers is when you hear Leslie sayin the trailer, we are breaking
down complex legal concepts intoeveryday situations so that you
can understand the why's and howto protect and build
intergenerational wealth.
Those words like this podcasthave an intentionality that show
(07:16):
up during each interview andmake no mistake.
This is by design before goinginto law.
Leslie was a community activistin Los Angeles for activism
centered around gang andviolence reduction and
alternatives to incarcerationfor youth and young adults
through asset based communitydevelopment.
(07:38):
I met Leslie in a fellowshipprogram in 2002, where we
produce audio segments forPacifica radio, Los Angeles also
known as Cape PFK.
Leslie would then move to NewYork to attend law school and
graduated from CUNY law in 2008.
But the focus in public interestlaw and has dedicated her law
(07:58):
practice to be in customerservice and client needs focused
in 2015, Leslie became a mom andtoday she is proudly raising two
young daughters while managingher law practice known as the
law offices of Leslie Salton orSalton attorney across social
media.
(08:20):
Subscribe to the legacy pursewherever you listen to your
favorite podcast and make sureto sign up for our
newsletter@legacypurse.com andvisit Leslie's law
practice@saltonattorney.com.
Thank you for listening.
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