April 9, 2025 • 50 mins
In this week's episode, we delve into the complexities of GLP-1 medications, a topic capturing immense attention in the realms of weight loss and health. As these drugs, including Ozempic and Wegovi, rise to fame as potential magic pills for shedding pounds, we aim to illuminate the shadows they cast. Join us as we explore the historical journey of GLP-1, from its initial isolation in the 1980s to its breakthrough realization utilizing the saliva of the Gila monster, making its way into injections.
But it isn’t just about the scientific background; we delve into the real concerns tied to these medications. What side effects should you be wary of? How do personal experiences challenge the narrative spun by the pharmaceutical world? Listen closely as we share powerful stories that underline the importance of addressing the roots of one’s health struggles—often emotional and lifestyle-oriented—rather than simply masking them with medication.
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Melissa (00:05):
So in today's episode, I've invited my sister, dawn, to
come with me and get up on oursmoke boxes and talk about GLP-1
.
Information shared in thisparticular episode is for
educational and informationalpurposes only.
We are not doctors, medicalprofessionals or licensed
(00:26):
healthcare providers, and we donot play them on television.
This podcast does not offermedical advice, diagnosis or
treatment.
Always consult with a qualifiedhealthcare professional before
making any medical decisions,including those related to GLP-1
medications or any othertreatments.
Your health is personal andwhat works for one person may
(00:46):
not work for another.
Please do your own research,ask questions and make informed
choices in partnership with yourhealthcare provider.
Let's get to this.
Welcome to the Lemon BalmCoaching Podcast, your cozy
corner of the world where we'llsip on life's lessons and
squeeze the most out of everymoment.
I'm Melissa, your coach of theworld, where we'll sip on life's
lessons and squeeze the mostout of every moment.
I'm Melissa, your coach,cheerleader and maybe even a
(01:09):
little bit like that mom whoalways has a warm hug and the
best advice waiting for you.
If you're a woman over 40,feeling like life's left you a
little lost, aimless ordownright stuck, you're in the
right place.
This is where your joy, yourfreedom and your purpose come
back into focus.
Together, we'll laugh, learnand rediscover what makes you
come alive.
(01:30):
Because it's not too late, thisis your time, so grab a cup of
something warm, settle in andlet's start creating the next
most beautiful chapter of yourlife.
Together, hey Dawn, hey,together, hey Dawn.
Hey, I am really glad you saidyes to coming onto the podcast
(01:51):
and talking with me about GLP-1,because we've had so many
conversations about it that weknow who are using it and the
side effects that we're seeingin the people that we love.
So thank you so much foragreeing.
Dawn (02:01):
Oh, glad to be on this soapbox.
Yeah, really.
Melissa (02:05):
And I know you have a, you have an invested interest in
this topic, not necessarilyGLP-1, but what we are using
GLP-1 for now, and that's weightloss, right yeah.
Yeah, I have a very long historywith weight issues right, yeah,
(02:27):
yeah, I have a very longhistory with weight issues.
Our whole family does.
Really, it's it's beensomething you know how they talk
about.
The sins of the father will bevisited upon the third and
fourth generation.
I also look at that like energy, the energy that's passed down
through the generations, andthis weight issue has been one
that's just been plaguing ourwhole family for generations.
Really, yeah, absolutely Ahundred percent yeah.
(02:50):
So for the listeners who mightnot know what we're talking
about, glp-1 is now like thepanacea for weight loss.
They are using it left andright and it's known by its
pharmaceutical names of Ozempic,wigovi, manjaro what are some
of the other ones?
Semaglutide yeah, that's likethe professional name for it,
(03:13):
but like you'll see itadvertised, you know all the
people, oh, oh, oh, ozempic, youknow, and Manjaro and all of
those.
So we just really wanted tocome on and talk about GLP-1
from a health and wellnessperspective, not weight loss
perspective.
Okay, so what is what's GLP-1?
Does anybody even know?
(03:34):
Do people really know whatthey're putting in their bodies?
Dawn (03:37):
It is a peptide that is naturally produced in your body.
Yes, it's naturally producedwith diet, exercise and we need
it.
It is a naturally occurringpeptide, amino acid.
I'm not sure of all of thescientific parts of it, but we
(04:02):
have to have it to survive.
Melissa (04:03):
Yeah, glp-1 actually was isolated.
Back in the eighties, ascientist named Jens Juhl Holst
and Joel Habener those twotogether at the University of
Massachusetts Medical Center.
They isolated GLP-1 in thehuman hormones.
They were the first ones toidentify it and they, you know,
(04:25):
they figured out real quicklythat it was a hormone that was
secreted by our gastrointestinaltract.
It's actually, it's actually amessenger in our digestion that
stimulates insulin.
Dawn (04:39):
I was going to say originally.
I believe and quote me.
You probably know a little bitmore than I.
Do Not quote me, but stop me ifI'm wrong.
It was originally used indiabetics to help them process
insulin and glucose andeverything in their bodies.
Melissa (05:00):
Well, the problem is GLP-1, they couldn't stabilize
it.
They isolated it back in the80s, but they couldn't stabilize
it.
They couldn't figure out how tomake it, how to synthesize it
so that we could use it as amedication.
They realized what it did ithelped to produce the insulin in
response to the glucose butthey couldn't stabilize it.
(05:22):
They couldn't figure out how tomanufacture it so that they
could sell it as a drug.
It took a while.
Clearly they've done that.
Yeah, but it took a while.
It wasn't until the 1990s thatresearchers discovered that the
saliva of a Gila monstercontains GLP-1.
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And that is what they were ableto synthesize.
They were not able tosynthesize the human GLP-1.
They were able to synthesizethe Gila monster GLP-1.
This is what I've gotten off ofresearchers and things like
that.
So this isn't like I'm not ascientist, I'm not the one who
figured all this stuff out.
I'm just letting you all knowthat this is what the process.
(06:07):
So they took the venom of theGila monster, broke all of its
different components down andfound the one that's like GLP-1.
And then that's what they'vesynthesized and they're putting
into all of our funsemi-glucoside injections.
They'll clean it up, yeah, yeah, but you did mention it is a
(06:28):
peptide.
Yeah, yeah, it's a peptide.
The actual peptide is calledXcendin-4.
That's the one that they gotfrom the Gila monster.
Dawn (06:37):
Okay, yeah, well, the thing is we naturally produce it
.
There are ways to naturallyraise your GLP-1 in your system,
if you care to look into it.
I haven't looked into it, butthere are foods that you can eat
.
There are things that you cando to help raise it naturally in
your own body without addinggila monster spit.
(07:02):
Exactly, and we're on a soapbox.
I'm not holding back.
Melissa (07:08):
We really are.
We're totally on a soapbox andI, you know, I know people who
have used GLP-1 shots.
I know a lot.
I know a lot and there are tonsof side effects.
Let me pull up some of thoseside effects right now, just in
case you don't do your ownresearch.
We want to share with you.
Some of the side effects couldbe thyroid tumors, including
cancer, pancreatitis,gallbladder problems,
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hypoglycemia, kidney problems,increased heart rate while
you're at rest, a change invision with people with type 2
diabetes, depression or thoughtsof suicide, serious allergic
reactions and even more.
I mean I've heard of people aretalking about ozempic face now
and ozempic babies.
Even these are side effects.
(07:51):
So one of the things that Iread about the shots it's the
reason people are losing weightso fast on these shots is
because it's they're losingmuscle mass.
They're not losing fat rightoff the bat, they're losing
muscle mass to begin with andthat's why you see people with
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the sunken face who are on theshots.
Dawn (08:14):
Well, and their butt too.
It's ozempic butt, they call itwhere it's super, super set
like extraordinarily saggy andflat.
Yeah, no, no, because you'relosing.
Yeah, because you're first of.
Melissa (08:25):
Yeah, because you're losing muscle and then you start
to lose the fat and, honestly,as we age, fat in our face is
our friend.
Dawn (08:38):
Because of falling.
Melissa (08:39):
Yeah, it prevents the saggy and it prevents that
hollowed out.
Look, and the ozempic babything.
Have you heard about that?
People are getting pregnant whoare on birth control, taking
ozempic, because the ozempicactually speeds up the
absorption of your birth controlso that it doesn't last as long
(09:03):
as you think it should Like.
It's well anyway.
Just side effects out the wazoo.
Like who are some of the peoplethat you knew on the shot and
like what were some of theirside effects.
You don't have to share names,obviously, but like what were
some of the side effects theywere seeing.
Dawn (09:18):
So I know some people that are on a really, really, really
low dose and they're doing well.
And they've been on it for aone lady five or six months now
and she's doing well.
She's not lost any weightwhatsoever, none.
But her inflammation is better,like she's not as puffy like
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around you know, her neck eyes,you know that type of thing.
So she's sticking with itbecause she feels like it's
beneficial for her.
I know of someone I don't knowher personally, but I know of
someone.
She had weight loss surgery butshe didn't change anything.
She continued to drink DietCoke, she continued to eat chips
(10:04):
and sugar and, you know, whilethe weight loss surgery didn't
work for her she's unusual andso she decided to go on.
I think she's on Wegovi and soshe's lost all the weight that
she regained and she looks good,but she still has not changed
(10:26):
anything and she is vomitingfive, six times a day, almost
like a bulimic would makeherself vomit when she eats.
She's vomiting, yeah, and butshe's okay because she's skinny
now.
Melissa (10:41):
Right, but that's one of the side effects of the
medication is nausea.
These are the like the, themild side effects, right?
Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea,stomach upset and all of that.
The person that I know who, whowas taking the shots TMI people
, tmi, but like they missed workmultiple days because they had
(11:04):
poop running down their leg.
They could not control, couldnot control, they couldn't
control it.
You have to really decide.
Is it worth it Exactly?
And the nausea that they wereexperiencing, the diarrhea, just
just terrible, and it was that.
It was that deciding moment.
(11:25):
Are these side effects worthsomething that doesn't guarantee
it's going to work?
First of all, it doesn'tguarantee no one no one's making
any guarantees that you'll loseweight.
But also, it's just like umweight loss surgery, right, If
you don't stick to the protocols, you will put it all back on.
(11:48):
You have to stay on these shotsor you will gain it back.
That's you know.
Dawn (11:56):
I've heard some people that said, oh, I went off of
them and I haven't gained anyweight back.
And you know, we don't knowwhat their dose was, we don't
know how long they were on it,you know so good, I hope you
never do Right, I really do.
I hope you never gain it back.
One of the side effects thatI've heard of I've not heard
(12:18):
anybody who's had it, I've justheard of this in some different
podcasts I listen to is thatthey're asking people who are on
any of the GLP-1 therapies,before they have surgery, to go
off cold turkey for a minimum oftwo weeks, because what's
happening is during surgery,because one of the things that
(12:41):
the GLP-1 does is it slows yourdigestion really, really slow,
and so you stay full longer,which is a good side effect,
right, but what they're findingand this is just recently that I
heard this on a podcast whatthey're finding is that the
(13:01):
people who are on thesetherapies are going in for
surgery and because they're notemptying their digestive system
the whole thing here to thegroin they're having severe
vomiting during surgery.
People are aspirating, you know,during surgery they're having
(13:23):
to stop, they're having to bringthem out of anesthesia.
I mean, I don't know all thethings.
I just know the little bit thatI've heard.
They're putting kids as youngas six or seven on this now, but
they're also putting people intheir sixties and seventies.
I'm sorry, I'm 59.
Almost the chances of meneeding surgery in the future
(13:44):
are greater than they were whenI was younger, and so do I want
to go into surgery, even off ofOzempic or whatever for two
weeks and risk aspirating,choking and dying during surgery
now.
Melissa (13:58):
If you think about this whole thing logically,
everything you said just makestotal sense, a hundred percent.
This, this shot.
One of its goals is to slowdown your digestion.
That makes you feel full longer.
I don't know about anybodylistening, but my digestion is
slow.
My digestion is so slow andsluggish all the time.
(14:23):
I have the time I have the timeI feel full all day long after
just eating breakfast because mydigestion is so slow.
I don't need any help slowingit down anymore.
Yeah, but if your digestion isslow that you know things are
going to get backed up.
Think about like when you eatright and you you're enjoying it
so much and you don't want tostop and you keep eating, you
(14:45):
keep eating, you keep eatingbecause it tastes so good, you
can actually feel the fullnessup in your throat.
And that's what GLP-1 is doingfor people.
It's getting, it's making themfeel full longer because it's
slowing down their digestion.
But if we think about, if wethink about ourselves as whole
beings right, mind, body, spirit, holistically if we slow our
(15:06):
digestion down, everything backsup.
Everything backs up.
And just think about this thesame blood that flows through
your stomach and your intestinesalso flows through your brain.
We wonder why people are foggywhen they're on these GLP-1
shots, right, because theirblood is full of all these
(15:29):
toxins that they get out oftheir system.
Yuck.
Dawn (15:34):
A little bit of background on me and we talked about this
before we started is that I havebeen overweight since I was, I
think three is when I startedgaining weight.
So my weight.
Just hold on just a second,yeah.
Melissa (15:48):
Everybody.
She was three years old whenshe started gaining weight and
was considered obese.
Three years old, Okayno-transcript.
Dawn (16:20):
When I started the third grade I was 120 pounds.
Most third graders are under100 pounds.
I lost weight and weighedmyself at 325 when my baby I
have two, so when my youngestwas maybe six or nine months old
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.
So there was a little bit ofbaby weight in there, but you
know.
So I was three, 25.
When I turned 50 and went tothe doctor for my exam, I was
300 and something like three, 12, three, 15.
Um, I was having chest pains.
(17:05):
I was having pain in my left arm.
I had become type 2 diabetic.
He didn't tell me that at thetime I was on cholesterol
medication, blood pressuremedication and he was about to
put me on insulin.
When I told him I've had enoughabout to put me on insulin.
(17:28):
When I told him I've had enough.
I have a nine and 10 year oldand I can't do this anymore and
I am signed up for weight losssurgery.
And he went.
So I had weight loss surgerywhen I was 50 and I am going to
be 59 in May.
So 58 plus eight plus years.
And it's wonderful when youfirst have it.
(17:50):
It's great because you know youcan eat half an egg and be full
.
But you know you have to, Ibelieve, and the doctors will
tell you you have to spend thetime.
For the first eight or ninemonths your stomach does all the
work.
All your weight comes off.
(18:10):
You could literally eat Reese'speanut butter cups for
breakfast, lunch and dinner andstill lose weight, and I've
known people who have had weightloss surgery.
Melissa (18:21):
Who have done that?
I do too.
There was a lady I watched andshe ate five M&Ms and that was
her dinner.
I was like that just doesn'tseem right, it's not.
Dawn (18:32):
It's not so.
If you don't change, you're notgoing to change, right?
If you don't make the changeshere, nothing is going to change
here.
Melissa (18:41):
And that's one of the things watching your journey
that's been the mostinspirational is you made the
changes and I know that peoplehave said to you and I just want
to just encourage oh, you takethe easy way out.
A surgery voluntarilyamputating part of your body is
(19:01):
not easy.
No matter what the goal isright.
It would be like walking intothe doctor and me saying my left
arm doesn't serve me anymore,take it off.
Dawn (19:12):
Well, and I did amputate.
90% of my stomach was literallyremoved from my body.
It was an amputation.
I had a sleeve surgery.
Melissa (19:21):
So it's not easy.
That part is not easy, thatthat part is that part's that
part's not easy.
Dawn (19:26):
That part is easy.
No, that part is easy becauseinsurance will pay for it.
Now it's widely accepted.
You can get it done almost anycity you know with a good size.
I mean, that part is reallyeasy, the part that is so hard
is right here.
Melissa (19:45):
The mental part, Exactly Because you have to make
.
You have to make changes.
Lifestyle changes are the keybecause I, the P, the same lady
who ate those M&Ms she gainedall the weight back plus some.
Oh yeah, it's like you said,the first several months your
body's doing the work for you,but after that you have to put
(20:06):
in the time.
And what I loved about you isyou started right away.
You didn't wait for the eighthmonth or the ninth month.
You figured out a way of eatingfor you that works.
Dawn (20:18):
I was 50 and almost like on my deathbed and so when I
decided and my husband and Italked it over and we looked
into options and and, and I madethe decision.
And it was a decision, it was a, it was a heart change, it was
(20:43):
a turning away from everythingthat I'd ever done.
I made the decision to change,and not only change but to learn
how to live differently.
How to live differently.
(21:10):
I am not perfect.
Okay.
I found a way of eating thatmade sense to me using whole
foods, real food, staying awayfrom they call them frankenfoods
.
It is a low-carb lifestyle.
When I eat carbs, I'm verycareful about it.
I just choose higher quality,better foods than I used to.
I still eat peanut butter, youknow.
I still eat chocolate, but Ichoose 85% dark chocolate, which
(21:36):
is a bitter chocolate, overmilk, or like sugar-free stuff,
or like sugar-free stuff.
If I eat sugar-free, like Sorryhere we go with TMI again,
because, boy, I know exactlywhat you're getting ready to say
.
So there are some reallydelicious sugar-free chocolates
(21:57):
out there and sugar-freedesserts, but I already had a
digestion issue and then I tookout 90% of my stomach, and so my
stomach doesn't do this anymore.
My stomach is the size of asmaller banana not a baby, but a
smaller banana and literallythis is all that my stomach does
(22:18):
.
Melissa (22:21):
For those that are listening, our stomach is
supposed to squeeze in alldirections as it digests, but
what Dawn is describing is hersonly squeezes in one direction.
Dawn (22:32):
One direction and very small.
Melissa (22:35):
So the motility is reduced.
Dawn (22:37):
Yes, and I don't produce the same acids anymore.
What they removed was the partof my stomach that produces like
ghrelin, which is a hungerhormone, which was great at
first, but now I feel it more.
But that's a long story.
It produces a lot of thehormones that are secreted
(23:01):
during the digestion.
I don't have that anymore, so Ihave to be very gentle with
myself.
But when I eat some of thosesugar-free options, yeah it um.
My stomach doesn't handle itwell, and neither do the people
around me, Right.
Melissa (23:21):
Because, um, those, those sugar-free, those sugar
alcohols, really do a number onyour digestive system.
So if you have any digestiveissues at all like I, have a
very sluggish digestion you'remissing part of your digestion.
Our dad is missing a huge partof his digestion.
Do you see a theme here?
Do you hear a theme in ourfamily?
Anyway, if you're missing, youknow, if you're having trouble
(23:44):
with digestion, those sugar-freeoptions are not always the best
options.
If you have never gone on toAmazon and read the reviews for
the sugar-free Haribo gummybears you need, because that's
what we're talking about whenwe're talking about these
sugar-free candies.
Yeah, Just not a pleasantexperience.
Dawn (24:03):
It is probably the funniest thing I've ever read in
my life, but I know it's funnybecause it's true, it's so true.
So, anyway, I, because of myweight loss surgery and that
decision to make changes, I'vebeen able to keep most of the
weight off, which is highlyunusual A lot of people.
(24:25):
If you don't make the changes,you gain the weight back.
Now, two and a half yearsactually, just over two years
ago, it's like two years and twomonths now our brother died
from colon cancer Again adigestive tract issue, Something
that our family struggles with.
(24:46):
Right before that, mymother-in-law died.
While Chris was actively dying,my oldest son ran away.
Melissa (24:56):
He came back before I got home, so everything I hear
you saying is stress, stress,stress, stress, stress, stress
with capital stress, yes, Withcapital S Yep, and so I started
a journey of gaining.
Dawn (25:11):
I had a nervous breakdown, ended up in the hospital,
gained a little bit more, and Iworked with you as a coach not
as a sister as a coach for sixmonths and kind of learned some
things about myself.
And I'm at the point now it'sbeen several months since we
(25:32):
worked together, but I'm at thepoint now where, okay, I'm ready
.
You know this stuff is gone.
I've worked through thesethings and it's time to move
forward, and so I'm using thetool that I was given in weight
loss surgery of a smallerstomach and the things that I've
learned over these years, andI'm on a downward trend now and
(25:53):
so I'm starting to feel better.
And you know we're talkingabout GLP-1 therapies and a lot
of the girls that I know thathad weight loss surgery that it
didn't work for them.
They didn't make the change hereand here, or here, and they
(26:14):
just, you know, the magic pillthat they did of surgery isn't
working anymore, and so they'relooking for a new magic pill.
Melissa (26:24):
Yeah, well, I think it's important to remember when
we're talking about GLP-1 isthis is one isolated hormone,
one isolated hormone in ourbodies.
Yeah, and hormones?
I don't know if we talk aboutthis enough.
Hormones are just messengers.
Yeah, they're not the problem.
Dawn (26:47):
No, they just tell your body parts what to do.
Melissa (26:50):
Nor are they the solution.
They're just messengers, andwith this GLP-1 shot they are
placing way too much pressure onthis one hormone to accomplish
a lifestyle goal.
Dawn (27:07):
Well, in a lifestyle goal is exactly what health is, Not
weight loss, right, Health?
I know some skinny people thatare fat.
You know they're not healthy.
They're not healthy.
Their bodies are not healthy.
They, you know, they carry itin their face, their neck, you
know whatever.
Have I thought about GLP-1?
(27:29):
Well, when I first startedhearing about it, man, that
sounded good.
That really is a magic pill.
It's even more magical thanweight loss surgery.
Yeah, and look, you could getit.
So, Bakhtir, you don't evenhave to have a prescription for
this.
You don't have to ever see adoctor.
Melissa (27:47):
Well, I thought it was very interesting.
You know they have all thesecommercials out there.
Now we go V.
Oh, is that hers, All thesecommercials?
Dawn (27:56):
Yeah.
Melissa (27:58):
They're targeting women with hers, yeah, anyway, all
these commercials, well, thismorning, okay.
Targeting women with hers,anyway, all these commercials,
well, this morning, okay.
So first, all of these othercompanies talk about it being a
compound and semi-glutide, glp-1, all this stuff, ters epitide,
yeah.
I heard a Mount Jaro commercialthis morning.
They never once mentionedsemi-glutide, they never once
(28:21):
mentioned GLP-1, but they madeit sound really, really
appealing, but they did not tellyou what it was that they were
going to put into your body.
So marketing, marketing,marketing.
It's all about marketing, oh mygosh.
And they are making hand overfist.
And here's the other thingthat's really interesting Until
(28:41):
2033, until 2033, the companyNovo Nordisk exclusively
manufactures semi-glutideformulations.
They are the only companyallowed to produce this
formulation.
Dawn (29:02):
So this company out of india is getting, oh my gosh so
one of the one of the um uhpodcasts that I was listening to
or watching on on youtube orsomething, uh talked about that
and the whole the wholeconversation that I was
(29:24):
listening to was not only dothey own the rights, they are
they pharmaceuticals Like, sothe whole.
You know are recommendingchildren as young as six get on
this because of the obesityepidemic in this world.
(29:48):
Their goal because once you goon this, their goal is for you
to be on it your entire life.
So your six-year-old childwho's chubby or even like I was
I mean 86 pounds in the firstgrade, I was 40 pounds heavier,
(30:08):
I was morbidly obese A lot ofdifferent reasons for that that
we'll never know all of.
Instead of teaching that childa healthy lifestyle, they're
convincing their parents to putthem on this medication for 75,
80 years, yeah, yeah, theirentire life.
Melissa (30:32):
Well, and we don't know all of the long-term effects
yet of this medication, becauseit's really just now becoming
Well, it's new, yeah, in thetimeline of history it's new.
Dawn (30:44):
Yeah, but you can choose to just blindly do what your
doctor says, or you can say I'llmake an appointment for a
couple of weeks.
Yeah, Let me look at it.
Melissa (30:57):
Well, you know, talking about make, you know, listening
to what your doctor says.
I did that.
I did that for years.
I did that for years.
I just did what they said.
For so many reasons, right, partof it's, part of it's our
generation.
You know, we grew up in a timewhere we didn't run to the
doctor for everything.
So if we did listen to whatthey had to say, but now we have
to go to the doctor foreverything, your kid can't go
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back to school without adoctor's note.
I mean, like it's just a, it's,that's a machine for another
conversation.
But you know, I listened foryears and years and years.
And then I got to that pointwhere things were wrong and I'm
going to my doctor and they'regoing we don't know, we can't
figure it out, I don't knowwhat's going on with you.
And I got to the point where Ijust said I'm not going to, I'm
(31:40):
not going to listen to themblindly anymore and I'm going to
make my own decisions for my,for my wellbeing in my body.
And my doctors did not likethat, but I did it.
I fired them, you know.
I just didn't go back.
I fired them.
I didn't go back because theyweren't listening to me.
Dawn (31:59):
I did buy into that and I uh, I've I've had depression for
many, many years.
But it was found after my sonwas born, after my baby, my
youngest, and he is almost 19.
And so I started taking Effexor.
Anyway, most people never, evercome off Effexor, but when I
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and I didn't tell you, I didn'ttell anybody but when I was
coaching with you I made thedecision to come off of it, even
though I was coming off of anervous breakdown because I had
started, like learning aboutsome of the toxins and even
another month or two before Itold people I had done it.
(32:40):
Yeah, don't trust doctorsanymore.
Trust your body, listen to yourbody.
Don't just jump on medicines,don't just hop on every train
that goes by.
Melissa (32:59):
But we don't know how to listen to our bodies anymore.
You've learned, I've learned,dad is learning, but we don't
know how to listen to our bodiesanymore.
You've learned, I've learned.
Dad is learning, but we don'tknow how to listen to our bodies
and we start the process ofignoring what our body needs.
We start this process asinfants now, yeah, because we
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want to get our kids on afeeding schedule, we want to
make you know, and then we sitthem down at breakfast, lunch,
dinner what if they're nothungry?
What if they're not hungry?
What if they're not hungry?
At dinner, and we teach ourkids to ignore the signals from
their body, starting frominfancy.
Now, sure, I did it.
We all do that.
I did it.
Yeah, I wanted my kids on afeeding schedule to make my life
(33:41):
easier.
Dawn (33:42):
Yeah, so dinner snacks so that they're not grumpy while
you're trying to cook dinner foreverybody.
Melissa (33:47):
I mean you know, learn, learning how to listen to your
body is a huge, huge, huge, hugepart of what I do with my
clients.
Dawn (33:56):
Well, the thing about the GLP one is it turns off your
body signals.
Absolutely it's, it's more oflearn.
Melissa (34:04):
It's more ignoring what your body needs, and that's
that's really what it comes downto.
They are giving you a chemicalthat tells your body to stop
doing what it should normally dowhich is digest your food,
which is digest, your freakingfood.
Now imagine I mean just imagine10 years from now.
(34:25):
All these people.
They're going to be sounhealthy bedtime Because I
don't already absorb enoughnutrients.
Dawn (34:52):
So can you imagine if I were to add, like a lot of
weight loss patients have doneadd whatever name brand will go
Vimanjaro to an already becauseI don't have a stomach to absorb
the nutrients.
Can you imagine what that'sdoing to them?
But nobody knows yet.
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Like you said, the long-term.
Nobody knows what that is yet.
Melissa (35:18):
It makes me wonder and, like I said at the beginning,
I'm not a doctor.
This is just my sister and Italking.
I wonder how people are goingto end up with diseases like
Crohn's disease, these majordigestive disorders that their
bodies just don't even functionanymore as a result of turning
off all the receptors.
Dawn (35:38):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think people realize either because of
what I've learned as a weightloss patient as a way of eating
coach, because I did go into thecoaching for a while just to
try to help people understandthat and then with our brother
passing and just trying tofigure out why, I mean our
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brother was 55.
Yeah, you know, um 84 days'tdiagnosis to death.
People don't realize what yourdigestive system is.
Just a short history, chris.
Our brother, uh, didn't want tohave an invasive where they go
(36:20):
up through your behind and lookaround with the camera
colonoscopy.
So he ordered a test online,the Cologuard test.
The thing is, those particulartests only look for certain
markers that are found in just acertain type of cancer, and so
(36:41):
the type of cancer that he hadwas not a colon cancer.
It did not have the markers ofa regular colon cancer and
because he didn't have theinvasive colonoscopy, they
couldn't see it.
It was a different type ofcancer that settled in his colon
.
We don't want to have acolonoscopy because of the fear
(37:02):
or whatever.
We don't want to have acolonoscopy because of the fear
or whatever.
But you know, there are thingsthat we need to do to protect
our bodies, and that's one ofthe things.
Another thing is learning howto recognize signals.
There were a lot of signalsthat he missed, so we need to
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know how to recognize them.
And if we're taking somethinglike GLP-1, but by taking that
and turning off those signals,it's not a risk for me, it's not
something that I'm willing totake.
Melissa (37:36):
There is no magic pill.
I hate, to be the one to tellyou.
There is no magic pill.
No, there's one thing thatworks, and it's lifestyle change
.
And it's not about calories in,calories out, it's not about
working out seven days a week.
It is literally a lifestylechange and finding the lifestyle
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change that works for you.
Because, yeah, not this not onesize fits all.
There is not one size fits allof diet, and when I say diet, I
mean way of eating.
So there's not one size fitsall of diet, and when I say diet
, I mean way of eating.
So there's not one size fits allof diet and exercise.
We have to have the way thatworks for us individually, and
(38:16):
you know what there's.
Maybe GLP-1 is working for you.
I just like Dawn, I'm notwilling to risk it.
With all of the things that Ialways have going on in my body,
my digestion already being slowenough.
Knowing my family's history mybrother, my dad, my sister I'm
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not willing to risk it.
Dawn (38:39):
Well, and the girl that I was talking about before, that
had weight loss surgery and nowshe's re-lost all of her weight
and she, she feels great butshe's literally puking
constantly, four or five, sixtimes a day.
How does that feel?
Melissa (38:54):
great and, like I said, the person who was missing work
because they had poop runningdown their leg constantly and no
control over their bowels.
Dawn (39:04):
Yeah, that's not feeling good to me.
No, um, and you know, as a, asan obese person since I was
three, the thing that we thinkmakes us feel good as being
skinny, um, fitting into thatsize clothing, um, having people
(39:27):
you know say, oh, you're sothin.
I mean, is that what you'refeeling good about?
Because vomiting while you'reat work, right after you eat,
when you're about to go on aphone call or a Zoom, or walk
into a meeting, or having toleave a meeting, because, I mean
, I had a girlfriend that didthat while she was pregnant.
She had that E nemesis, yes,right.
(39:51):
So she vomited a lot, you know,and as soon as she was done
being pregnant, it went away.
That's understandable to say tosomebody oh my gosh, I'm having
a really bad morning sickness,I'll be back, but oh, I'm taking
Majora, I need to go vomit.
Melissa (40:07):
Yeah, it's not the way to start a call.
Dawn (40:09):
Yeah, I don't.
I don't get it.
I'm sorry, it's a soapbox, soI'm just.
Melissa (40:13):
It is a soapbox, but you and it is a soapbox and
lifestyle change is the key.
But it's more than lifestylechange, because you can power
through anything for a while buteventually you'll end up kind
of shifting backwards into oldpatterns.
So really the key is figuringout the pattern.
(40:35):
Figuring out the pattern andadjusting the pattern.
Like what is it that keeps yougoing back to the old pattern?
What is it that keeps yourunning back to the things that
have you, you know, stuck onthat weight loss cycle, weight
loss, you know, wheel.
Dawn (40:54):
Well, tom and I my hubby, you know we sit down and watch
TV after everything's done, likeyou know.
After I'm done making dinner,he's done with work, we've sat
down as a family, whether it'sjust the two of us or the four
of us, whatever Then I go intocleaning the kitchen and making
coffee, making lunches for theboys, blah, blah, blah.
Then we sit down and watch TV.
(41:16):
Well, we had gotten into ahabit of having a scotch or a
bourbon and a quarter of a cupof peanuts.
Then it became a half a cup ofpeanuts, half a cup of peanuts,
and then it became a half a cupof peanuts, half a cup of
peanuts, and then it became justpeanuts, not even any scotch,
you know.
So I realized at Christmas likeokay, this is really getting
(41:38):
out of hand.
So now I'm having a cup of teaat night.
Melissa (41:42):
Yeah, and it's, it's, it's, it's making those
realizations, stopping longenough to make those
realizations, to not bejudgmental over the whole thing,
but go, oh, wow, isn't thatinteresting.
We already ate your bag.
Hmm, yeah, we might want tolook at what's causing that,
like, what is it?
What is it that made me want toeat a whole bag of peanuts?
(42:03):
What is it that made me want toeat peanut butter every day?
We joke about that a lot, butlike, what is it?
What is it?
More than likely.
More than likely, it's oldprogramming, old wiring in your
brain.
Habits, habits, old wiring andold programming.
Absolutely, they keep us stuck.
Yeah Well, do you have anythingelse to say about GLP-1?
Dawn (42:28):
Do your research.
Yeah, just if nothing else, ifyour doctor says, let's put you
on this, go, let me just go homeand do some.
Can you give me one of thoseflyers or what's the website?
Just read the side effects andsee if you really want to go
through that.
Do even the smallest amount ofresearch?
(42:52):
Yeah, you know, I mean, thereis no magic pill.
It's on you and and as awful asthat is to say it's on you,
it's your decision in the longrun, awful as that is to say
it's on you, it's your decisionin the long run to either I hate
to say it go blindly and dowhatever somebody tells you to
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do, or to stand up and say justhold on a minute, let me think
about it.
Melissa (43:18):
One of the things that we haven't talked about is the
amount of weight that people arelosing.
They're losing about 30 pounds.
That seems to be the averageweight loss on these shots and
the commercials.
I've lost 30 pounds.
I've lost 30 pounds.
I lost 32 pounds, 31 pounds, 34pounds.
It's all right around that 30pound range and the reason that
(43:40):
people, from what I understand,the reason that this, this, this
shot, is so, so popular now isbecause hollywood started using
it several years ago, when uhfast weight loss fast weight
loss for a movie role.
and you know what?
For a hollywood star, 30 poundsis a lot.
You know these hollywood female, you know these actresses
(44:01):
probably weigh 110 pounds.
30 pounds is lot, but forsomebody who is 325 pounds, 30
pounds is not going to make thatbig of a difference.
I'm sorry to say that this isour soapbox 30 pounds for
someone who is over 300 poundsis not much.
And then they still have a lotof work to do after that.
Dawn (44:25):
Well, and you've got to find a way to rebuild that
muscle.
Yeah, you do, and that's hard.
Yeah, it is.
Building muscle is hard and inorder to build muscle you have
to have the good quality protein.
But if your digestion is messedup from that protein takes a
(45:08):
lot of space in your stomach andyour digestive system because
of how your body processes it,how your stomach out loud here.
But you know, if your brain hasbeen told for six months or
however long you're on theManjaro or whatever it is, that
you're already full and youdon't need more, how difficult
is it going to be to eat enoughnatural high uh uh high
metabolic protein?
How hard is it going to be foryour body to eat that and digest
(45:32):
it?
It's going to take, I wouldthink, months after coming off
of that stuff to be able to eatenough to rebuild that muscle.
I don't know that as a fact.
I'm just thinking because I'mlearning how the body works
right.
Melissa (45:46):
Yeah, but I think it's also so important to remember
that you are mind, body andspirit.
You're not just body, and GLP-1only targets the body.
It's not targeting the thingsthat make you work as a human
the spirit and the mind.
Dawn (46:05):
So a weird analogy, but this is something I was a
hairdresser.
I became a hairdresser in 1982.
People would say, oh, you know,does anybody know somebody who
does this kind of hair or thatkind of hair, who specializes in
this or that?
And I would say find somebodyin public that you like the way
their hair looks yes, publicthat you like the way their hair
looks yes, ask them where theywent and try it, see if you like
(46:34):
it.
So for me, the way of eatingthat I found I was watching this
girl who was a weight losspatient, who was drinking this
coffee.
That looked amazing and I'mlike, oh, I can still drink
coffee.
Sent her a message and she goesthis is what it is, you know,
look it up for yourself.
So I looked it up and I startedreading about this way of
eating and what this coffee wasit's just a protein coffee and
reading about that.
(46:54):
It's natural foods, naturalfats, natural carbs.
You know it's, it's lowglycemic index.
It made sense to me.
So I tried it and I liked it.
Some people might look atcarnivore and go, oh, I could do
that.
Give it a try, rather than puta GLP-1 in your body that your
(47:15):
doctor just goes oh hey, I gotsome coupons, because this
company gave me coupons and Ican get it for you for $75 a
month right now.
So why not try the carnivore?
Why not try the keto?
Why not try the Atkins?
Why not try something healthyfirst and find one that you get?
I understood the way of eatingthat I'm following.
(47:38):
I understood that you shouldeat real food, not processed,
not boxed, not bagged.
You know, try that first.
Melissa (47:47):
This isn't what your body wants.
Your body wants to function,your body wants to be healthy
and and this shuts it off.
This shuts off your naturalintuition, your natural ability
to understand what your bodyneeds.
So, like Dawn and I were bothsaying, it's really about
shifting your lifestyle andshifting your mindset.
(48:07):
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(48:27):
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(48:48):
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So in today's episode, I've invited my sister, dawn, to
come with me and get up on oursmoke boxes and talk about GLP-1
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Together, hey Dawn, hey,together, hey Dawn.
Hey, I am really glad you saidyes to coming onto the podcast
(01:51):
and talking with me about GLP-1,because we've had so many
conversations about it that weknow who are using it and the
side effects that we're seeingin the people that we love.
So thank you so much foragreeing.
Dawn (02:01):
Oh, glad to be on this soapbox.
Yeah, really.
Melissa (02:05):
And I know you have a, you have an invested interest in
this topic, not necessarilyGLP-1, but what we are using
GLP-1 for now, and that's weightloss, right yeah.
Yeah, I have a very long historywith weight issues right, yeah,
(02:27):
yeah, I have a very longhistory with weight issues.
Our whole family does.
Really, it's it's beensomething you know how they talk
about.
The sins of the father will bevisited upon the third and
fourth generation.
I also look at that like energy, the energy that's passed down
through the generations, andthis weight issue has been one
that's just been plaguing ourwhole family for generations.
Really, yeah, absolutely Ahundred percent yeah.
(02:50):
So for the listeners who mightnot know what we're talking
about, glp-1 is now like thepanacea for weight loss.
They are using it left andright and it's known by its
pharmaceutical names of Ozempic,wigovi, manjaro what are some
of the other ones?
Semaglutide yeah, that's likethe professional name for it,
(03:13):
but like you'll see itadvertised, you know all the
people, oh, oh, oh, ozempic, youknow, and Manjaro and all of
those.
So we just really wanted tocome on and talk about GLP-1
from a health and wellnessperspective, not weight loss
perspective.
Okay, so what is what's GLP-1?
Does anybody even know?
(03:34):
Do people really know whatthey're putting in their bodies?
Dawn (03:37):
It is a peptide that is naturally produced in your body.
Yes, it's naturally producedwith diet, exercise and we need
it.
It is a naturally occurringpeptide, amino acid.
I'm not sure of all of thescientific parts of it, but we
(04:02):
have to have it to survive.
Melissa (04:03):
Yeah, glp-1 actually was isolated.
Back in the eighties, ascientist named Jens Juhl Holst
and Joel Habener those twotogether at the University of
Massachusetts Medical Center.
They isolated GLP-1 in thehuman hormones.
They were the first ones toidentify it and they, you know,
(04:25):
they figured out real quicklythat it was a hormone that was
secreted by our gastrointestinaltract.
It's actually, it's actually amessenger in our digestion that
stimulates insulin.
Dawn (04:39):
I was going to say originally.
I believe and quote me.
You probably know a little bitmore than I.
Do Not quote me, but stop me ifI'm wrong.
It was originally used indiabetics to help them process
insulin and glucose andeverything in their bodies.
Melissa (05:00):
Well, the problem is GLP-1, they couldn't stabilize
it.
They isolated it back in the80s, but they couldn't stabilize
it.
They couldn't figure out how tomake it, how to synthesize it
so that we could use it as amedication.
They realized what it did ithelped to produce the insulin in
response to the glucose butthey couldn't stabilize it.
(05:22):
They couldn't figure out how tomanufacture it so that they
could sell it as a drug.
It took a while.
Clearly they've done that.
Yeah, but it took a while.
It wasn't until the 1990s thatresearchers discovered that the
saliva of a Gila monstercontains GLP-1.
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And that is what they were ableto synthesize.
They were not able tosynthesize the human GLP-1.
They were able to synthesizethe Gila monster GLP-1.
This is what I've gotten off ofresearchers and things like
that.
So this isn't like I'm not ascientist, I'm not the one who
figured all this stuff out.
I'm just letting you all knowthat this is what the process.
(06:07):
So they took the venom of theGila monster, broke all of its
different components down andfound the one that's like GLP-1.
And then that's what they'vesynthesized and they're putting
into all of our funsemi-glucoside injections.
They'll clean it up, yeah, yeah, but you did mention it is a
(06:28):
peptide.
Yeah, yeah, it's a peptide.
The actual peptide is calledXcendin-4.
That's the one that they gotfrom the Gila monster.
Dawn (06:37):
Okay, yeah, well, the thing is we naturally produce it
.
There are ways to naturallyraise your GLP-1 in your system,
if you care to look into it.
I haven't looked into it, butthere are foods that you can eat
.
There are things that you cando to help raise it naturally in
your own body without addinggila monster spit.
(07:02):
Exactly, and we're on a soapbox.
I'm not holding back.
Melissa (07:08):
We really are.
We're totally on a soapbox andI, you know, I know people who
have used GLP-1 shots.
I know a lot.
I know a lot and there are tonsof side effects.
Let me pull up some of thoseside effects right now, just in
case you don't do your ownresearch.
We want to share with you.
Some of the side effects couldbe thyroid tumors, including
cancer, pancreatitis,gallbladder problems,
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hypoglycemia, kidney problems,increased heart rate while
you're at rest, a change invision with people with type 2
diabetes, depression or thoughtsof suicide, serious allergic
reactions and even more.
I mean I've heard of people aretalking about ozempic face now
and ozempic babies.
Even these are side effects.
(07:51):
So one of the things that Iread about the shots it's the
reason people are losing weightso fast on these shots is
because it's they're losingmuscle mass.
They're not losing fat rightoff the bat, they're losing
muscle mass to begin with andthat's why you see people with
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the sunken face who are on theshots.
Dawn (08:14):
Well, and their butt too.
It's ozempic butt, they call itwhere it's super, super set
like extraordinarily saggy andflat.
Yeah, no, no, because you'relosing.
Yeah, because you're first of.
Melissa (08:25):
Yeah, because you're losing muscle and then you start
to lose the fat and, honestly,as we age, fat in our face is
our friend.
Dawn (08:38):
Because of falling.
Melissa (08:39):
Yeah, it prevents the saggy and it prevents that
hollowed out.
Look, and the ozempic babything.
Have you heard about that?
People are getting pregnant whoare on birth control, taking
ozempic, because the ozempicactually speeds up the
absorption of your birth controlso that it doesn't last as long
(09:03):
as you think it should Like.
It's well anyway.
Just side effects out the wazoo.
Like who are some of the peoplethat you knew on the shot and
like what were some of theirside effects.
You don't have to share names,obviously, but like what were
some of the side effects theywere seeing.
Dawn (09:18):
So I know some people that are on a really, really, really
low dose and they're doing well.
And they've been on it for aone lady five or six months now
and she's doing well.
She's not lost any weightwhatsoever, none.
But her inflammation is better,like she's not as puffy like
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around you know, her neck eyes,you know that type of thing.
So she's sticking with itbecause she feels like it's
beneficial for her.
I know of someone I don't knowher personally, but I know of
someone.
She had weight loss surgery butshe didn't change anything.
She continued to drink DietCoke, she continued to eat chips
(10:04):
and sugar and, you know, whilethe weight loss surgery didn't
work for her she's unusual andso she decided to go on.
I think she's on Wegovi and soshe's lost all the weight that
she regained and she looks good,but she still has not changed
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anything and she is vomitingfive, six times a day, almost
like a bulimic would makeherself vomit when she eats.
She's vomiting, yeah, and butshe's okay because she's skinny
now.
Melissa (10:41):
Right, but that's one of the side effects of the
medication is nausea.
These are the like the, themild side effects, right?
Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea,stomach upset and all of that.
The person that I know who, whowas taking the shots TMI people
, tmi, but like they missed workmultiple days because they had
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poop running down their leg.
They could not control, couldnot control, they couldn't
control it.
You have to really decide.
Is it worth it Exactly?
And the nausea that they wereexperiencing, the diarrhea, just
just terrible, and it was that.
It was that deciding moment.
(11:25):
Are these side effects worthsomething that doesn't guarantee
it's going to work?
First of all, it doesn'tguarantee no one no one's making
any guarantees that you'll loseweight.
But also, it's just like umweight loss surgery, right, If
you don't stick to the protocols, you will put it all back on.
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You have to stay on these shotsor you will gain it back.
That's you know.
Dawn (11:56):
I've heard some people that said, oh, I went off of
them and I haven't gained anyweight back.
And you know, we don't knowwhat their dose was, we don't
know how long they were on it,you know so good, I hope you
never do Right, I really do.
I hope you never gain it back.
One of the side effects thatI've heard of I've not heard
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anybody who's had it, I've justheard of this in some different
podcasts I listen to is thatthey're asking people who are on
any of the GLP-1 therapies,before they have surgery, to go
off cold turkey for a minimum oftwo weeks, because what's
happening is during surgery,because one of the things that
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the GLP-1 does is it slows yourdigestion really, really slow,
and so you stay full longer,which is a good side effect,
right, but what they're findingand this is just recently that I
heard this on a podcast whatthey're finding is that the
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people who are on thesetherapies are going in for
surgery and because they're notemptying their digestive system
the whole thing here to thegroin they're having severe
vomiting during surgery.
People are aspirating, you know,during surgery they're having
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to stop, they're having to bringthem out of anesthesia.
I mean, I don't know all thethings.
I just know the little bit thatI've heard.
They're putting kids as youngas six or seven on this now, but
they're also putting people intheir sixties and seventies.
I'm sorry, I'm 59.
Almost the chances of meneeding surgery in the future
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are greater than they were whenI was younger, and so do I want
to go into surgery, even off ofOzempic or whatever for two
weeks and risk aspirating,choking and dying during surgery
now.
Melissa (13:58):
If you think about this whole thing logically,
everything you said just makestotal sense, a hundred percent.
This, this shot.
One of its goals is to slowdown your digestion.
That makes you feel full longer.
I don't know about anybodylistening, but my digestion is
slow.
My digestion is so slow andsluggish all the time.
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I have the time I have the timeI feel full all day long after
just eating breakfast because mydigestion is so slow.
I don't need any help slowingit down anymore.
Yeah, but if your digestion isslow that you know things are
going to get backed up.
Think about like when you eatright and you you're enjoying it
so much and you don't want tostop and you keep eating, you
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keep eating, you keep eatingbecause it tastes so good, you
can actually feel the fullnessup in your throat.
And that's what GLP-1 is doingfor people.
It's getting, it's making themfeel full longer because it's
slowing down their digestion.
But if we think about, if wethink about ourselves as whole
beings right, mind, body, spirit, holistically if we slow our
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digestion down, everything backsup.
Everything backs up.
And just think about this thesame blood that flows through
your stomach and your intestinesalso flows through your brain.
We wonder why people are foggywhen they're on these GLP-1
shots, right, because theirblood is full of all these
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toxins that they get out oftheir system.
Yuck.
Dawn (15:34):
A little bit of background on me and we talked about this
before we started is that I havebeen overweight since I was, I
think three is when I startedgaining weight.
So my weight.
Just hold on just a second,yeah.
Melissa (15:48):
Everybody.
She was three years old whenshe started gaining weight and
was considered obese.
Three years old, Okayno-transcript.
Dawn (16:20):
When I started the third grade I was 120 pounds.
Most third graders are under100 pounds.
I lost weight and weighedmyself at 325 when my baby I
have two, so when my youngestwas maybe six or nine months old
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.
So there was a little bit ofbaby weight in there, but you
know.
So I was three, 25.
When I turned 50 and went tothe doctor for my exam, I was
300 and something like three, 12, three, 15.
Um, I was having chest pains.
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I was having pain in my left arm.
I had become type 2 diabetic.
He didn't tell me that at thetime I was on cholesterol
medication, blood pressuremedication and he was about to
put me on insulin.
When I told him I've had enoughabout to put me on insulin.
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When I told him I've had enough.
I have a nine and 10 year oldand I can't do this anymore and
I am signed up for weight losssurgery.
And he went.
So I had weight loss surgerywhen I was 50 and I am going to
be 59 in May.
So 58 plus eight plus years.
And it's wonderful when youfirst have it.
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It's great because you know youcan eat half an egg and be full
.
But you know you have to, Ibelieve, and the doctors will
tell you you have to spend thetime.
For the first eight or ninemonths your stomach does all the
work.
All your weight comes off.
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You could literally eat Reese'speanut butter cups for
breakfast, lunch and dinner andstill lose weight, and I've
known people who have had weightloss surgery.
Melissa (18:21):
Who have done that?
I do too.
There was a lady I watched andshe ate five M&Ms and that was
her dinner.
I was like that just doesn'tseem right, it's not.
Dawn (18:32):
It's not so.
If you don't change, you're notgoing to change, right?
If you don't make the changeshere, nothing is going to change
here.
Melissa (18:41):
And that's one of the things watching your journey
that's been the mostinspirational is you made the
changes and I know that peoplehave said to you and I just want
to just encourage oh, you takethe easy way out.
A surgery voluntarilyamputating part of your body is
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not easy.
No matter what the goal isright.
It would be like walking intothe doctor and me saying my left
arm doesn't serve me anymore,take it off.
Dawn (19:12):
Well, and I did amputate.
90% of my stomach was literallyremoved from my body.
It was an amputation.
I had a sleeve surgery.
Melissa (19:21):
So it's not easy.
That part is not easy, thatthat part is that part's that
part's not easy.
Dawn (19:26):
That part is easy.
No, that part is easy becauseinsurance will pay for it.
Now it's widely accepted.
You can get it done almost anycity you know with a good size.
I mean, that part is reallyeasy, the part that is so hard
is right here.
Melissa (19:45):
The mental part, Exactly Because you have to make
.
You have to make changes.
Lifestyle changes are the keybecause I, the P, the same lady
who ate those M&Ms she gainedall the weight back plus some.
Oh yeah, it's like you said,the first several months your
body's doing the work for you,but after that you have to put
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in the time.
And what I loved about you isyou started right away.
You didn't wait for the eighthmonth or the ninth month.
You figured out a way of eatingfor you that works.
Dawn (20:18):
I was 50 and almost like on my deathbed and so when I
decided and my husband and Italked it over and we looked
into options and and, and I madethe decision.
And it was a decision, it was a, it was a heart change, it was
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a turning away from everythingthat I'd ever done.
I made the decision to change,and not only change but to learn
how to live differently.
How to live differently.
(21:10):
I am not perfect.
Okay.
I found a way of eating thatmade sense to me using whole
foods, real food, staying awayfrom they call them frankenfoods
.
It is a low-carb lifestyle.
When I eat carbs, I'm verycareful about it.
I just choose higher quality,better foods than I used to.
I still eat peanut butter, youknow.
I still eat chocolate, but Ichoose 85% dark chocolate, which
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is a bitter chocolate, overmilk, or like sugar-free stuff,
or like sugar-free stuff.
If I eat sugar-free, like Sorryhere we go with TMI again,
because, boy, I know exactlywhat you're getting ready to say
.
So there are some reallydelicious sugar-free chocolates
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out there and sugar-freedesserts, but I already had a
digestion issue and then I tookout 90% of my stomach, and so my
stomach doesn't do this anymore.
My stomach is the size of asmaller banana not a baby, but a
smaller banana and literallythis is all that my stomach does
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.
Melissa (22:21):
For those that are listening, our stomach is
supposed to squeeze in alldirections as it digests, but
what Dawn is describing is hersonly squeezes in one direction.
Dawn (22:32):
One direction and very small.
Melissa (22:35):
So the motility is reduced.
Dawn (22:37):
Yes, and I don't produce the same acids anymore.
What they removed was the partof my stomach that produces like
ghrelin, which is a hungerhormone, which was great at
first, but now I feel it more.
But that's a long story.
It produces a lot of thehormones that are secreted
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during the digestion.
I don't have that anymore, so Ihave to be very gentle with
myself.
But when I eat some of thosesugar-free options, yeah it um.
My stomach doesn't handle itwell, and neither do the people
around me, Right.
Melissa (23:21):
Because, um, those, those sugar-free, those sugar
alcohols, really do a number onyour digestive system.
So if you have any digestiveissues at all like I, have a
very sluggish digestion you'remissing part of your digestion.
Our dad is missing a huge partof his digestion.
Do you see a theme here?
Do you hear a theme in ourfamily?
Anyway, if you're missing, youknow, if you're having trouble
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with digestion, those sugar-freeoptions are not always the best
options.
If you have never gone on toAmazon and read the reviews for
the sugar-free Haribo gummybears you need, because that's
what we're talking about whenwe're talking about these
sugar-free candies.
Yeah, Just not a pleasantexperience.
Dawn (24:03):
It is probably the funniest thing I've ever read in
my life, but I know it's funnybecause it's true, it's so true.
So, anyway, I, because of myweight loss surgery and that
decision to make changes, I'vebeen able to keep most of the
weight off, which is highlyunusual A lot of people.
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If you don't make the changes,you gain the weight back.
Now, two and a half yearsactually, just over two years
ago, it's like two years and twomonths now our brother died
from colon cancer Again adigestive tract issue, Something
that our family struggles with.
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Right before that, mymother-in-law died.
While Chris was actively dying,my oldest son ran away.
Melissa (24:56):
He came back before I got home, so everything I hear
you saying is stress, stress,stress, stress, stress, stress
with capital stress, yes, Withcapital S Yep, and so I started
a journey of gaining.
Dawn (25:11):
I had a nervous breakdown, ended up in the hospital,
gained a little bit more, and Iworked with you as a coach not
as a sister as a coach for sixmonths and kind of learned some
things about myself.
And I'm at the point now it'sbeen several months since we
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worked together, but I'm at thepoint now where, okay, I'm ready
.
You know this stuff is gone.
I've worked through thesethings and it's time to move
forward, and so I'm using thetool that I was given in weight
loss surgery of a smallerstomach and the things that I've
learned over these years, andI'm on a downward trend now and
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so I'm starting to feel better.
And you know we're talkingabout GLP-1 therapies and a lot
of the girls that I know thathad weight loss surgery that it
didn't work for them.
They didn't make the change hereand here, or here, and they
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just, you know, the magic pillthat they did of surgery isn't
working anymore, and so they'relooking for a new magic pill.
Melissa (26:24):
Yeah, well, I think it's important to remember when
we're talking about GLP-1 isthis is one isolated hormone,
one isolated hormone in ourbodies.
Yeah, and hormones?
I don't know if we talk aboutthis enough.
Hormones are just messengers.
Yeah, they're not the problem.
Dawn (26:47):
No, they just tell your body parts what to do.
Melissa (26:50):
Nor are they the solution.
They're just messengers, andwith this GLP-1 shot they are
placing way too much pressure onthis one hormone to accomplish
a lifestyle goal.
Dawn (27:07):
Well, in a lifestyle goal is exactly what health is, Not
weight loss, right, Health?
I know some skinny people thatare fat.
You know they're not healthy.
They're not healthy.
Their bodies are not healthy.
They, you know, they carry itin their face, their neck, you
know whatever.
Have I thought about GLP-1?
(27:29):
Well, when I first startedhearing about it, man, that
sounded good.
That really is a magic pill.
It's even more magical thanweight loss surgery.
Yeah, and look, you could getit.
So, Bakhtir, you don't evenhave to have a prescription for
this.
You don't have to ever see adoctor.
Melissa (27:47):
Well, I thought it was very interesting.
You know they have all thesecommercials out there.
Now we go V.
Oh, is that hers, All thesecommercials?
Dawn (27:56):
Yeah.
Melissa (27:58):
They're targeting women with hers, yeah, anyway, all
these commercials, well, thismorning, okay.
Targeting women with hers,anyway, all these commercials,
well, this morning, okay.
So first, all of these othercompanies talk about it being a
compound and semi-glutide, glp-1, all this stuff, ters epitide,
yeah.
I heard a Mount Jaro commercialthis morning.
They never once mentionedsemi-glutide, they never once
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mentioned GLP-1, but they madeit sound really, really
appealing, but they did not tellyou what it was that they were
going to put into your body.
So marketing, marketing,marketing.
It's all about marketing, oh mygosh.
And they are making hand overfist.
And here's the other thingthat's really interesting Until
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2033, until 2033, the companyNovo Nordisk exclusively
manufactures semi-glutideformulations.
They are the only companyallowed to produce this
formulation.
Dawn (29:02):
So this company out of india is getting, oh my gosh so
one of the one of the um uhpodcasts that I was listening to
or watching on on youtube orsomething, uh talked about that
and the whole the wholeconversation that I was
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listening to was not only dothey own the rights, they are
they pharmaceuticals Like, sothe whole.
You know are recommendingchildren as young as six get on
this because of the obesityepidemic in this world.
(29:48):
Their goal because once you goon this, their goal is for you
to be on it your entire life.
So your six-year-old childwho's chubby or even like I was
I mean 86 pounds in the firstgrade, I was 40 pounds heavier,
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I was morbidly obese A lot ofdifferent reasons for that that
we'll never know all of.
Instead of teaching that childa healthy lifestyle, they're
convincing their parents to putthem on this medication for 75,
80 years, yeah, yeah, theirentire life.
Melissa (30:32):
Well, and we don't know all of the long-term effects
yet of this medication, becauseit's really just now becoming
Well, it's new, yeah, in thetimeline of history it's new.
Dawn (30:44):
Yeah, but you can choose to just blindly do what your
doctor says, or you can say I'llmake an appointment for a
couple of weeks.
Yeah, Let me look at it.
Melissa (30:57):
Well, you know, talking about make, you know, listening
to what your doctor says.
I did that.
I did that for years.
I did that for years.
I just did what they said.
For so many reasons, right, partof it's, part of it's our
generation.
You know, we grew up in a timewhere we didn't run to the
doctor for everything.
So if we did listen to whatthey had to say, but now we have
to go to the doctor foreverything, your kid can't go
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back to school without adoctor's note.
I mean, like it's just a, it's,that's a machine for another
conversation.
But you know, I listened foryears and years and years.
And then I got to that pointwhere things were wrong and I'm
going to my doctor and they'regoing we don't know, we can't
figure it out, I don't knowwhat's going on with you.
And I got to the point where Ijust said I'm not going to, I'm
(31:40):
not going to listen to themblindly anymore and I'm going to
make my own decisions for my,for my wellbeing in my body.
And my doctors did not likethat, but I did it.
I fired them, you know.
I just didn't go back.
I fired them.
I didn't go back because theyweren't listening to me.
Dawn (31:59):
I did buy into that and I uh, I've I've had depression for
many, many years.
But it was found after my sonwas born, after my baby, my
youngest, and he is almost 19.
And so I started taking Effexor.
Anyway, most people never, evercome off Effexor, but when I
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and I didn't tell you, I didn'ttell anybody but when I was
coaching with you I made thedecision to come off of it, even
though I was coming off of anervous breakdown because I had
started, like learning aboutsome of the toxins and even
another month or two before Itold people I had done it.
(32:40):
Yeah, don't trust doctorsanymore.
Trust your body, listen to yourbody.
Don't just jump on medicines,don't just hop on every train
that goes by.
Melissa (32:59):
But we don't know how to listen to our bodies anymore.
You've learned, I've learned,dad is learning, but we don't
know how to listen to our bodiesanymore.
You've learned, I've learned.
Dad is learning, but we don'tknow how to listen to our bodies
and we start the process ofignoring what our body needs.
We start this process asinfants now, yeah, because we
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want to get our kids on afeeding schedule, we want to
make you know, and then we sitthem down at breakfast, lunch,
dinner what if they're nothungry?
What if they're not hungry?
What if they're not hungry?
At dinner, and we teach ourkids to ignore the signals from
their body, starting frominfancy.
Now, sure, I did it.
We all do that.
I did it.
Yeah, I wanted my kids on afeeding schedule to make my life
(33:41):
easier.
Dawn (33:42):
Yeah, so dinner snacks so that they're not grumpy while
you're trying to cook dinner foreverybody.
Melissa (33:47):
I mean you know, learn, learning how to listen to your
body is a huge, huge, huge, hugepart of what I do with my
clients.
Dawn (33:56):
Well, the thing about the GLP one is it turns off your
body signals.
Absolutely it's, it's more oflearn.
Melissa (34:04):
It's more ignoring what your body needs, and that's
that's really what it comes downto.
They are giving you a chemicalthat tells your body to stop
doing what it should normally dowhich is digest your food,
which is digest, your freakingfood.
Now imagine I mean just imagine10 years from now.
(34:25):
All these people.
They're going to be sounhealthy bedtime Because I
don't already absorb enoughnutrients.
Dawn (34:52):
So can you imagine if I were to add, like a lot of
weight loss patients have doneadd whatever name brand will go
Vimanjaro to an already becauseI don't have a stomach to absorb
the nutrients.
Can you imagine what that'sdoing to them?
But nobody knows yet.
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Like you said, the long-term.
Nobody knows what that is yet.
Melissa (35:18):
It makes me wonder and, like I said at the beginning,
I'm not a doctor.
This is just my sister and Italking.
I wonder how people are goingto end up with diseases like
Crohn's disease, these majordigestive disorders that their
bodies just don't even functionanymore as a result of turning
off all the receptors.
Dawn (35:38):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think people realize either because of
what I've learned as a weightloss patient as a way of eating
coach, because I did go into thecoaching for a while just to
try to help people understandthat and then with our brother
passing and just trying tofigure out why, I mean our
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brother was 55.
Yeah, you know, um 84 days'tdiagnosis to death.
People don't realize what yourdigestive system is.
Just a short history, chris.
Our brother, uh, didn't want tohave an invasive where they go
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up through your behind and lookaround with the camera
colonoscopy.
So he ordered a test online,the Cologuard test.
The thing is, those particulartests only look for certain
markers that are found in just acertain type of cancer, and so
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the type of cancer that he hadwas not a colon cancer.
It did not have the markers ofa regular colon cancer and
because he didn't have theinvasive colonoscopy, they
couldn't see it.
It was a different type ofcancer that settled in his colon
.
We don't want to have acolonoscopy because of the fear
(37:02):
or whatever.
We don't want to have acolonoscopy because of the fear
or whatever.
But you know, there are thingsthat we need to do to protect
our bodies, and that's one ofthe things.
Another thing is learning howto recognize signals.
There were a lot of signalsthat he missed, so we need to
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know how to recognize them.
And if we're taking somethinglike GLP-1, but by taking that
and turning off those signals,it's not a risk for me, it's not
something that I'm willing totake.
Melissa (37:36):
There is no magic pill.
I hate, to be the one to tellyou.
There is no magic pill.
No, there's one thing thatworks, and it's lifestyle change
.
And it's not about calories in,calories out, it's not about
working out seven days a week.
It is literally a lifestylechange and finding the lifestyle
(37:56):
change that works for you.
Because, yeah, not this not onesize fits all.
There is not one size fits allof diet, and when I say diet, I
mean way of eating.
So there's not one size fitsall of diet, and when I say diet
, I mean way of eating.
So there's not one size fits allof diet and exercise.
We have to have the way thatworks for us individually, and
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you know what there's.
Maybe GLP-1 is working for you.
I just like Dawn, I'm notwilling to risk it.
With all of the things that Ialways have going on in my body,
my digestion already being slowenough.
Knowing my family's history mybrother, my dad, my sister I'm
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not willing to risk it.
Dawn (38:39):
Well, and the girl that I was talking about before, that
had weight loss surgery and nowshe's re-lost all of her weight
and she, she feels great butshe's literally puking
constantly, four or five, sixtimes a day.
How does that feel?
Melissa (38:54):
great and, like I said, the person who was missing work
because they had poop runningdown their leg constantly and no
control over their bowels.
Dawn (39:04):
Yeah, that's not feeling good to me.
No, um, and you know, as a, asan obese person since I was
three, the thing that we thinkmakes us feel good as being
skinny, um, fitting into thatsize clothing, um, having people
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you know say, oh, you're sothin.
I mean, is that what you'refeeling good about?
Because vomiting while you'reat work, right after you eat,
when you're about to go on aphone call or a Zoom, or walk
into a meeting, or having toleave a meeting, because, I mean
, I had a girlfriend that didthat while she was pregnant.
She had that E nemesis, yes,right.
(39:51):
So she vomited a lot, you know,and as soon as she was done
being pregnant, it went away.
That's understandable to say tosomebody oh my gosh, I'm having
a really bad morning sickness,I'll be back, but oh, I'm taking
Majora, I need to go vomit.
Melissa (40:07):
Yeah, it's not the way to start a call.
Dawn (40:09):
Yeah, I don't.
I don't get it.
I'm sorry, it's a soapbox, soI'm just.
Melissa (40:13):
It is a soapbox, but you and it is a soapbox and
lifestyle change is the key.
But it's more than lifestylechange, because you can power
through anything for a while buteventually you'll end up kind
of shifting backwards into oldpatterns.
So really the key is figuringout the pattern.
(40:35):
Figuring out the pattern andadjusting the pattern.
Like what is it that keeps yougoing back to the old pattern?
What is it that keeps yourunning back to the things that
have you, you know, stuck onthat weight loss cycle, weight
loss, you know, wheel.
Dawn (40:54):
Well, tom and I my hubby, you know we sit down and watch
TV after everything's done, likeyou know.
After I'm done making dinner,he's done with work, we've sat
down as a family, whether it'sjust the two of us or the four
of us, whatever Then I go intocleaning the kitchen and making
coffee, making lunches for theboys, blah, blah, blah.
Then we sit down and watch TV.
(41:16):
Well, we had gotten into ahabit of having a scotch or a
bourbon and a quarter of a cupof peanuts.
Then it became a half a cup ofpeanuts, half a cup of peanuts,
and then it became a half a cupof peanuts, half a cup of
peanuts, and then it became justpeanuts, not even any scotch,
you know.
So I realized at Christmas likeokay, this is really getting
(41:38):
out of hand.
So now I'm having a cup of teaat night.
Melissa (41:42):
Yeah, and it's, it's, it's, it's making those
realizations, stopping longenough to make those
realizations, to not bejudgmental over the whole thing,
but go, oh, wow, isn't thatinteresting.
We already ate your bag.
Hmm, yeah, we might want tolook at what's causing that,
like, what is it?
What is it that made me want toeat a whole bag of peanuts?
(42:03):
What is it that made me want toeat peanut butter every day?
We joke about that a lot, butlike, what is it?
What is it?
More than likely.
More than likely, it's oldprogramming, old wiring in your
brain.
Habits, habits, old wiring andold programming.
Absolutely, they keep us stuck.
Yeah Well, do you have anythingelse to say about GLP-1?
Dawn (42:28):
Do your research.
Yeah, just if nothing else, ifyour doctor says, let's put you
on this, go, let me just go homeand do some.
Can you give me one of thoseflyers or what's the website?
Just read the side effects andsee if you really want to go
through that.
Do even the smallest amount ofresearch?
(42:52):
Yeah, you know, I mean, thereis no magic pill.
It's on you and and as awful asthat is to say it's on you,
it's your decision in the longrun, awful as that is to say
it's on you, it's your decisionin the long run to either I hate
to say it go blindly and dowhatever somebody tells you to
(43:12):
do, or to stand up and say justhold on a minute, let me think
about it.
Melissa (43:18):
One of the things that we haven't talked about is the
amount of weight that people arelosing.
They're losing about 30 pounds.
That seems to be the averageweight loss on these shots and
the commercials.
I've lost 30 pounds.
I've lost 30 pounds.
I lost 32 pounds, 31 pounds, 34pounds.
It's all right around that 30pound range and the reason that
(43:40):
people, from what I understand,the reason that this, this, this
shot, is so, so popular now isbecause hollywood started using
it several years ago, when uhfast weight loss fast weight
loss for a movie role.
and you know what?
For a hollywood star, 30 poundsis a lot.
You know these hollywood female, you know these actresses
(44:01):
probably weigh 110 pounds.
30 pounds is lot, but forsomebody who is 325 pounds, 30
pounds is not going to make thatbig of a difference.
I'm sorry to say that this isour soapbox 30 pounds for
someone who is over 300 poundsis not much.
And then they still have a lotof work to do after that.
Dawn (44:25):
Well, and you've got to find a way to rebuild that
muscle.
Yeah, you do, and that's hard.
Yeah, it is.
Building muscle is hard and inorder to build muscle you have
to have the good quality protein.
But if your digestion is messedup from that protein takes a
(45:08):
lot of space in your stomach andyour digestive system because
of how your body processes it,how your stomach out loud here.
But you know, if your brain hasbeen told for six months or
however long you're on theManjaro or whatever it is, that
you're already full and youdon't need more, how difficult
is it going to be to eat enoughnatural high uh uh high
metabolic protein?
How hard is it going to be foryour body to eat that and digest
(45:32):
it?
It's going to take, I wouldthink, months after coming off
of that stuff to be able to eatenough to rebuild that muscle.
I don't know that as a fact.
I'm just thinking because I'mlearning how the body works
right.
Melissa (45:46):
Yeah, but I think it's also so important to remember
that you are mind, body andspirit.
You're not just body, and GLP-1only targets the body.
It's not targeting the thingsthat make you work as a human
the spirit and the mind.
Dawn (46:05):
So a weird analogy, but this is something I was a
hairdresser.
I became a hairdresser in 1982.
People would say, oh, you know,does anybody know somebody who
does this kind of hair or thatkind of hair, who specializes in
this or that?
And I would say find somebodyin public that you like the way
their hair looks yes, publicthat you like the way their hair
looks yes, ask them where theywent and try it, see if you like
(46:34):
it.
So for me, the way of eatingthat I found I was watching this
girl who was a weight losspatient, who was drinking this
coffee.
That looked amazing and I'mlike, oh, I can still drink
coffee.
Sent her a message and she goesthis is what it is, you know,
look it up for yourself.
So I looked it up and I startedreading about this way of
eating and what this coffee wasit's just a protein coffee and
reading about that.
(46:54):
It's natural foods, naturalfats, natural carbs.
You know it's, it's lowglycemic index.
It made sense to me.
So I tried it and I liked it.
Some people might look atcarnivore and go, oh, I could do
that.
Give it a try, rather than puta GLP-1 in your body that your
(47:15):
doctor just goes oh hey, I gotsome coupons, because this
company gave me coupons and Ican get it for you for $75 a
month right now.
So why not try the carnivore?
Why not try the keto?
Why not try the Atkins?
Why not try something healthyfirst and find one that you get?
I understood the way of eatingthat I'm following.
(47:38):
I understood that you shouldeat real food, not processed,
not boxed, not bagged.
You know, try that first.
Melissa (47:47):
This isn't what your body wants.
Your body wants to function,your body wants to be healthy
and and this shuts it off.
This shuts off your naturalintuition, your natural ability
to understand what your bodyneeds.
So, like Dawn and I were bothsaying, it's really about
shifting your lifestyle andshifting your mindset.
(48:07):
And I do have a free gift foryou, something that can help you
get that mind, body and spiritback in harmony again.
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And this guide is for you ifyou've spent years giving to
others and now feel disconnectedfrom yourself.
Is for you if you've spentyears giving to others and now
(48:27):
feel disconnected from yourself.
Or maybe you're struggling toalign your whole mind, body and
spirit, or maybe you're ready toreclaim your inner alignment
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So just grab your free guidetoday.
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(48:48):
step toward a life in alignment.
Thanks for tuning in today.
See you next time.
Thanks so much for spending alittle time with me today on the
Lemon Balm Coaching Podcast.
I hope you're walking away withsomething that sparks joy, hope
or a fresh perspective for yourjourney.
If you loved today's episode,let's keep the conversation
(49:10):
going.
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