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July 15, 2025 85 mins

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This week on the pod we’re talking all things American in Paris with friend of the pod, Margaret Vandenburg! As always Margaret brings the most thought provoking answers to our questions! We even talk sister wives, polyamory, and gun control! If you want your spirit lifted and your ideas challenged, this is the episode for you! Sadly we missed Haylie during this interview due to the continued nightmare that is the airline systems but she’ll be back next week! Love you guys!

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