Lessons In Product Management

Lessons In Product Management

Path2Product's Mission is to bridge the gap in product management experience for aspiring product managers, so the Lessons In Product Management podcast is here to support that effort, as well as provide valuable insights to existing PMs and PM leaders.

Episodes

July 30, 2025 10 mins

🎙 Episode Summary

Host: John Fontenot


Topic: How to stop sales teams from selling vaporware (promising unbuilt features)


💡 Core Problem

Sales teams often promise features that don't yet exist (a.k.a. vaporware) to close deals. This creates chaos for product and engineering, derails the roadmap, and sets poor expectations with customers.


🧩 Why It Happens

  • Lack of vision and strategy at the leadership level causes mis...

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In this episode, Shobhit Chugh, former Google PM and founder of Intentional Product Manager, shares practical strategies for moving beyond execution and becoming a standout product leader—even when you don’t have formal authority or a supportive manager.

🔑 Key Takeaways

1. Don’t Mistake Productivity for Progress

  • Just being busy doesn’t mean you’re growing.

  • Like Amazon’s press release approach, define what you want to be known for ...

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🔑 Summary:

In this insightful conversation, Daria Love unpacks the often-blurred boundaries between product marketing and product management. She shares practical frameworks for collaboration, the importance of go-to-market (GTM) roadmaps, and how product managers and marketers can set each other (and the product) up for success. The episode is packed with strategic and tactical takeaways for PMs looking to deepen partnerships with...

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🎙️ Guest: Irene Yu Founder & CEO of SkipLevel – a company helping PMs become more technical without needing to code.

Skiplevel article on how AI is changing the PM role

🔑 Key Topics & Timestamps

  • [00:00 - 02:25] Irene's BackgroundIrene shares her transition from software engineer to starting SkipLevel.

  • [02:26 - 04:45] Identifying the Technical GapsHer early software development experience revealed a lack of technical k...

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April 28, 2025 13 mins

Summary:

In this episode of Lessons in Product Management, John discusses the importance of developing into a T-shaped product manager — someone who has deep expertise in one area but broad knowledge across many disciplines. He explains how the expectations of PMs are evolving, particularly with the rise of generative AI, and gives tactical advice on building a career growth roadmap.


Timestamps:

00:09 – Introduction to the episode...

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Lessons in Product Management - Working & Communicating with Engineers

Guest: Paul Lunow
Host: John Doe
Episode Duration: ~28 min

[00:00 - 01:37] Introduction

    • Background on Paul’s 20-year career in tech.


    [01:37 - 04:05] Paul’s Background in Product & Engineering

    • Started in Berlin as a web developer, grew an age...
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    Podcast Summary: Megan Shulby on Post-Launch Product ManagementIntroduction & Megan’s Background

    • 01:24 - 02:01 – Megan Shulby is introduced; she and John connected via LinkedIn due to her content on underrated product management topics.
    • 02:01 - 04:39 – Megan shares her journey from Hollywood entertainment (e.g., The Biggest Loser) to digital marketing, leading to product management. She pursued graduate studies in Information...
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    Episode Summary:

    In this episode, John Fontenot explores a thought-provoking topic: the potential consolidation of Product Management (PM) and User Experience (UX) roles due to advancements in Generative AI. He examines the overlap between these two disciplines, the evolving responsibilities of PMs and UX designers, and how organizations may react to increased efficiency through AI.


    Key Takeaways:

    1. Understanding the Unique Roles...

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    In this episode ofLessons in Product Management, host John Fontenot tackles a listener's question:How can a product manager succeed in a waterfall environment? He acknowledges that while Agile is often the preferred framework, many industries and organizations still operate in waterfall models, making adaptability key.

    Fontenot offers two approaches:

    1. The Ideal Scenario – Where leadership is open to change, product managers ca...
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    Do you feel constantly pressured to ship new features? Do you get the space you need for proper discovery?


    Most Product Managers feel this pressure, and I was recently asked on LinkedIn why this is the case. What about our company cultures or human nature drives this desire for more new stuff? In this episode, I attempt to break down the top 3 reasons why I believe Product culture drives outputs over outcomes, even we say we wan...

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    On today's Lesson in Product Management, this one is for the perfectionists out there.


    If you consider yourself a "creative" or an artist, you might be tempted to hide your work until you deem it "perfect" - but that could be hurting you more than you know. On this episode we break down why perfectionism hurts you and those around you and ultimately will set you back in your career and the progress you...

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    It's easy to get overly focused on "doing your job" as a product manager. Unfortunately, we risk taking too narrow of a view of what our job actually is.


    When it comes to working with PMMs (product marketing managers), it's no different. And it's about time we start treating them like partners rather than someone we throw releases over the wall to and expect them to make our products sell.


    If you're looking to get into product ...

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    Some of the greatest leaders and leadership authors have given the advice to "Lean into your strengths."


    This idea makes sense in some instances. In other cases, it can handicap your career and growth trajectory.


    If you want to get into product management and challenge yourself to gain much needed PM experience, join a growing community of 1,000+ aspiring product managers on Path2Product where we bridge the gap of product manag...

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    On today’s episode, I got to chat with Bob Ainsbury, Chief Product Officer at Granicus. 


    Bob is a long-time Product leader who has had a winding journey from engineering to sales and marketing leadership to leading strategy and now in the C-suite as a Product executive. For most of Bob’s career, he’s been in highly regulated spaces like Healthcare and government. 


    On today’s episode, we dive into Bob’s experience in leading produ...

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    What is your relationship like with your stakeholders? If you're not treating them like partners, I can promise you it's not great.


    In this episode, we share how to build great relationships with your "stakeholders" and create win/win relationships that stop making stakeholders feel like blockers to your desired progress.


    If you're looking to get into product management, join us at ⁠Path2Product⁠ to get the knowledge, experienc...

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    On today's lesson in product management, John Fontenot shares a recent story about his experience working in a Scrum shop and how the rigid interpretation of Scrum almost killed his ability to ship a critical integration on time.


    If you're interested in entering product management and want to gain the hands-on experience you need to make that leap, join us at Path2Product and start earning much-needed experience today.

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    The difference between regular managers and product managers...


    Regular manager: "Don't bring me problems. Bring me solutions!"


    Product Manager: "Don't bring me solutions. Bring me problems"


    It's our job to care more about the problem driving the request for a solution than the solution itself. But it can be hard navigating those conversations with large customers or senior stakeholders. On this lesson in product management, we ...

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    Key Takeaways

    • Side projects offer valuable experience for aspiring PMs and an outlet for creativity/ownership for employed PMs
    • Benefits include mental health, skill development, and potential innovation
    • Time management and prioritizing core job responsibilities are crucial when pursuing side projects
    • Companies like Google (20% time) demonstrate the value of fostering entrepreneurial creativity in employees

    Topics:

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    Hello and welcome in to another episode of Lessons in Product Management, I’m your host, John Fontenot, and on today’s episode I have Paul Turaew on to talk about his journey into product management and we riff on a number of topics in research. Paul’s a long-time PM, having held a variety of Sr. IC and Director of Product Management roles in Healthcare. Some of the topics we cover on today’s episode include the tension between res...

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    On today’s episode, I got to speak with Stephanie Jerome, Product Manager at Akoya. Stephanie has a ton of experience managing internal products, and that was the focus of our conversation today. Stephanie also shared how she got her start in product management and lessons she’s learned along the way. 


    If you’re managing or considering managing internal products or looking to get your first shot at a PM job, this is a great ep...

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