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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know it's funny.
I was just thinking the otherday about how much information
like comes at us all the time.
You know it's like drinkingfrom a fire hose.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
And you know I try to
stay organized.
I really do, but it's tough.
Apps, different note-takingsystems, nothing really seems to
quite do the trick.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
And I was talking to
a friend about this and they're
like, have you tried aListallion journal?
And I was like, well, yeah, Iknow listallion, they're great,
but I never really thought abouthow it could help me process
information better.
So I thought this would be afun deep dive.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Oh, I think that's a
great idea.
I think a lot of people feeloverwhelmed by just the sheer
volume of stuff that's coming atthem all the time, and so
finding a good way to organizethat, make sense of it, engage
with it is so important.
And you know, from what I'veseen, listallion journals seem
like they're kind of purposebuilt for that.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah, Even just
looking at their website, you
know just some of the featuresthat jump out at me.
They have numbered pages, atable of contents.
It's more than just a notebook.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah, right, yeah,
it's kind of like creating your
own personal knowledge base.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Right, you know, it's
not just about order, it's
about, I think of it likeindexing and cross-referencing.
You know, when you learnsomething new, it really sticks
when you can connect it tosomething you already know.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And with those
numbered pages you can like.
Oh, back on page 37, I talkedabout this and now I can see how
this new thing connects to that.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Oh, that's, that's so
smart.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And then the table of
contents.
It's like a roadmap.
You can you can always findyour way back to to those key
insights and you can track yourprogress.
You can see, like, how faryou've come intellectually.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, I mean, I guess
they've really just taken this
very simple idea of a journaland elevated it to a tool for
learning.
And it makes me think aboutLeonardo da Vinci.
I don't know if you've readthis, but he he had these
notebooks and he'd fill themwith observations and sketches
and ideas.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, and he had this
really interesting system of
cross-referencing too.
Where he would, he would linkdifferent pages together with
symbols and annotations.
It wasn't just a diary, it wasalmost like his external brain.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, it was like the
repository for all his thoughts
.
And it's making me think aboutthe paper.
You know they emphasize howgood the paper is 120 GSM paper
and it's supposed to be greatfor fountain pens, which, you
know, it seems like a smalldetail but for me that tactile
experience of writing can reallymake a difference.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I think there's
science behind that.
There's studies have shown thatwhen you write by hand,
especially with like a nice penon good paper, it it actually
activates different parts of thebrain than when you type.
So you get better memoryretention, better comprehension,
you know it can even stimulatecreativity.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
It's so interesting
how that works yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
There's.
There's something about that.
You know the feeling of the pengliding across the page.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
The subtle variations
and pressure and stroke.
It really engaged your senses.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It's funny you
mention that my cousin's a
journalist.
She swears by her Lestallionjournal for taking notes during
interviews.
She says the high quality paper, the smooth writing experience.
It helps her stay focused,capture all the nuances of the
conversation.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Which makes perfect
sense when you're trying to
really absorb and process allthat information.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It makes sense that
you would want something that
would make that as easy andfrictionless as possible.
Yeah, I imagine if you werestruggling with like scratchy
paper or ink bleeding through itwould, it would just break your
concentration.
You wouldn't be able to capturethose kind of fleeting thoughts
and insights.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Totally, and I'm
thinking about the colors too.
They have some really coolnames for their colors, you know
, like Galloway, khaki, cream,clarity Blue.
I mean, it sounds more likeluxury items than just simple
notebooks.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, I mean, I think
that's intentional.
It's like you know you'reinvesting in your intellectual
growth, so why not treatyourself to something that feels
beautiful and inspiring?
You know, it's like thedifference between, you know,
eating out of a takeoutcontainer versus like having a
beautifully set table.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Right.
It elevates the wholeexperience.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Exactly, and I think
there's something to that.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, definitely.
I was also reading on theirwebsite about this woman named
Lucy and she was talking abouthow using a Lestallian journal
helped her go from feelingreally overwhelmed to feeling
more in control of her thoughtsand ideas.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Oh, I'd love to hear
about Lucy's story.
What was it about herexperience that really resonated
with ideas?
Oh, I'd love to hear aboutLucy's story.
What was it about herexperience that really resonated
with you?
Oh, I'd love to hear aboutLucy's story.
What was it about herexperience that really resonated
with you?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Well, she was
juggling a lot, you know,
demanding job, family.
She was also trying to maketime for writing, which I
thought was interesting, and shejust felt like her mind was
constantly racing and she washaving trouble focusing.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, I can relate to
that.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
And she started using
the Lestallion Journal to try
to kind of get organized, setpriorities Right, and she talks
about how just the simple act ofwriting things down helped her
to declutter her mind, kind ofcreate a sense of calm.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, I think that's
a really common experience when
we try to hold everything in ourheads, it's cognitive overload.
Right and journaling can besuch a great way to just kind of
offload some of that and itfrees up mental bandwidth for
deeper thinking.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, and what I
thought was really interesting
is she wasn't just using it tomanage her to-do list, but also
to kind of nurture her creativeside.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Oh, interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
She started using
some of those journaling prompts
like what inspires me or whatam I grateful for.
You know those kinds of things.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, prompts can be
so powerful for sparking
creativity and self-reflectionno-transcript.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
It's true, it's like
a little nudge, you know, to get
you thinking in a different way.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Right, yeah, and
Lestallion, they seem to get
that they have.
You know, on their website theyhave a whole section on
journaling tips and prompts.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, they have a
whole section on effective
journaling techniques.
They talk about setting aroutine, organizing with
headings, experimenting withdifferent tools.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
It's really about
creating a practice.
Yeah, you know, right,different tools.
It's really about creating apractice, you know not just
using the journal.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, and I'm glad
they emphasize routine, because
I think consistency is key whenit comes to building any habit,
you know, especially one thatinvolves introspection and
self-discovery.
Just like you know, we setaside time for exercise or meals
.
You know, setting aside a fewminutes each day for journaling
can have a huge impact on yourmental clarity and your
emotional well-being.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You know it's funny.
I used to think journaling wasjust for, you know, like angsty
teenagers or like superorganized people, but now I'm
starting to see it as a tool forreally anyone.
You know, if you want to learnmore effectively, process your
emotions, just make sense of theworld.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, it's a
misconception.
I think that it's only forcertain personality types.
It really is a practice thattranscends age, profession,
background.
You know, at its core, it'sabout self-awareness and
creating a space for personalgrowth.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, and not just
personal growth.
I think it can be helpful forprofessional development too,
right?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Oh, absolutely.
A lot of successfulentrepreneurs and leaders swear
by journaling as a tool forproblem solving, decision making
, strategic planning RichardBranson, for example.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Oh yeah, he's a big
journaler.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Huge proponent of
journaling.
Huge proponent of journaling.
He credits his daily journalinghabit with helping him to
clarify his goals.
You know, track his progress.
Stay focused on his vision.
So it's like having a personalboard of advisors, but just in
the pages of your head and ontopaper, because then you can see
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them from a new perspective, youknow, analyze them more
objectively and you can start toidentify patterns and insights
that you might have missedotherwise.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
So true, you know.
And speaking of insightsLestallion, on their website
they talk about how theirjournals are designed to work
well with different journalingtechniques, including bullet
journaling.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
And I know you're a
fan of bullet journaling, so I'm
curious to hear your thoughtson that.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Like how do you think
Listallion Journals might
enhance the bullet journalingexperience?
Well, you know, bulletjournaling is all about creating
a customizable system thatintegrates planning, scheduling,
note-taking, reflection, andwhat I like about Listallion
Journals is that they havefeatures that naturally
complement that approach.
So the dotted pages, forexample you know those provide a
really subtle grid and it'sperfect for creating those, you
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know, visually appealing bulletjournal layouts.
But it still allows forfree-flowing writing and
sketching.
It's like they've struck thisbalance between structure and
flexibility which kind ofappeals to both the analytical
and the creative sides of ourbrain.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, and then the
paper, because bullet journaling
can get pretty intense yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You can use colored
pens, markers, even watercolors,
and you want a paper that'sgoing to hold up to that.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Right and the cover.
Yeah, you know, you're carryingit around with you everywhere.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, it's got to be
durable.
It's got to be able towithstand, you know, being
tossed in your bag.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
And you know it's
making me think about my sister.
She uses a Lestallian journal.
She's a very visual learner andshe incorporates a lot of
drawings, diagrams, into hernotes.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Oh cool.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
And she loves.
She loves the thick, smoothpaper.
She says it makes it a joy tosketch and doodle.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
And she uses
different colored pens to
categorize information andhighlight things.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, that's a great
example of how how these
journals can be adapted to todifferent learning styles and
preferences.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's not a
one-size-fits-all.
It's about providing afoundation, a high-quality
foundation that you can thenpersonalize.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Exactly, and, you
know, it makes me wonder if this
focus on quality andcraftsmanship might actually
enhance the learning process.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That's an interesting
thought.
Yeah, I mean, there's somethingto be said for the
psychological impact of usingtools that feel good in your
hand, that inspire a sense ofcare and attention.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
It's true, and when
you value your learning tools, I
think it can make youappreciate the knowledge even
more.
Yeah, for sure it's like thedifference between listening to
music on a tiny phone speakerversus a high fidelity sound
system.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Right yeah, the music
is the same, but the quality of
the experience changeseverything.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Exactly, and you know
you were saying earlier how
Listallion they incorporateelements of mindfulness and
self-care into their approach.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I'd love to hear a
little bit more about that.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Well, one thing that
sets them apart is they really
emphasize the holistic benefitsof journaling.
So they offer like a curatedcollection of guided journal
prompts and affirmationsspecifically designed to to
promote mindfulness andself-reflection.
So, for example, one promptencourages you to to list three
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things you're grateful for eachday, which is a practice that's
known to to boost happiness andwell-being.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
That's really nice.
It's like a little reminder.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
To appreciate the
good things.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, exactly, and
this focus on mindfulness is
something that I find reallyappealing.
You know, in in today's world,it's so easy to get caught up in
the hustle, and the constantstream of information and
journaling offers us a way toslow down, to connect with
ourselves, to cultivate a senseof peace and presence.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
It's almost like a
form of meditation, isn't it?
To kind of quiet the mind?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Totally, and this
connection between journaling
and mindfulness is somethingthat I think more and more
people are starting to recognize.
It's not just about, you know,writing down your to-do list or
processing your thoughts.
It's about creating a space forintrospection, self-discovery,
personal growth.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
You know, you've
really got me rethinking my
whole approach to journaling.
It's not just about, you know,capturing information.
It's about engaging with it,connecting it to my own
experiences Right and using itto shape my understanding of the
world.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
That's the beauty of
it.
It's a deeply personal practiceand there's no right or wrong
way to do it Right.
It's about finding what worksfor you, you know, experimenting
and allowing it to evolve asyou do.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Speaking of evolution
, one thing that I thought was
interesting on the Lestallionwebsite is they talk about the
long-term benefits of journaling, yeah, it's an investment not
just for today but for yourgrowth over time.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
That's such an
important point.
Yeah, it's easy to get caughtup in the day to day, but
journaling offers us a way toconnect with our future selves.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
It's like planting a
seed that grows with you.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
And then you can look
back on it and see how much
you've changed.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
It's so insightful to
see how your perspective has
shifted, what challenges you'veovercome, what patterns emerge.
It's like having a conversationwith your past self.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, and not just
that, it's also a way to track
your progress toward goals.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
All right.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You know, celebrate
your accomplishments.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Learn from your
setbacks.
It's a tangible record of yourjourney.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, it's funny.
You know my aunt.
She told me this story abouthow she used her Lestallian
journal to achieve a lifelongdream.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
She always wanted to
open a bookstore.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
But it always felt
like just a dream, you know.
And then she started using herjournal to map out her vision.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
She would sketch out
ideas for the layout, jot down
book recommendations, evenbrainstorm names for the
business.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I love that Using the
journal as a creative incubator
.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, and the more
she wrote and planned, the more
real it became.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
It went from this
vague idea to a concrete plan.
And you know what she did it?
She opened her bookstore.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
A few years ago, and
it's been a huge success.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
That's so inspiring.
It shows how journaling canreally bridge that gap between
aspiration and action.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
It's not just about
passively dreaming, it's about
taking those steps.
And it all comes back to thosekey features the paper that's
amazing to write on, thenumbered pages, the table of
contents, that durable cover itall adds up to an experience
that feels both luxurious andpractical.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, it's a great
combination.
And it's worth noting that.
You know we're not promoting aspecific brand here.
It's about recognizing thepower of intentional journaling,
regardless of what tools youchoose.
But you know, lestallion doesoffer some unique features that,
based on what we've talkedabout, can really enhance the
experience.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Oh for sure.
It's like you could journalscraps of paper if you wanted to
, you could.
But having a dedicated, highquality journal.
It makes it so much moreenjoyable and effective.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, it's like
treating yourself to a little
luxury, which in turn, motivatesyou to show up for yourself.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, and for your
goals.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
You know, there's one
more thing about Lestallian
journals that we haven't talkedabout.
Oh, okay, and I'm actuallyreally curious to hear your
thoughts on this.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Okay, I'm intrigued.
What is it?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Well, it's the way
they incorporate elements of
community into the journalingexperience.
Oh, community Interesting.
Well, it's the way theyincorporate elements of
community into the journalingexperience.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Oh, community
Interesting, Tell me more.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
So they've cultivated
this whole online community of
journal enthusiasts.
They have a blog with tips andprompts, they host workshops and
challenges and they even have aforum where people can connect
and share their experiences.
And they even have a forumwhere people can connect and
share their experiences.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
That's really cool.
I mean, it makes sense, right,because journaling can often
feel like a very solitarypursuit.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
So to have that space
to connect with others who get
it.
I think could be reallypowerful and I think it speaks
to this larger trend ofjournaling becoming more social
and interactive.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
You know, it's not
just for personal reflection
anymore.
It's a way to connect withpeople who share similar
interests or goals.
It's like joining a fitnessclass versus working out at home
alone.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Right, right.
That sense of community can bereally motivating.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, it makes me
think of my friend.
He's a musician and he startedusing a listallion journal to
document his songwriting processOkay, track his progress and at
first he was kind of hesitantto share his work.
But then he found theLestallion community online and
he started posting snippets ofhis lyrics, getting feedback
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from other musicians.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
And it's been
incredible to see how that's
boosted his confidence.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That's great.
Yeah, it's amazing how justsharing your work with others
can help you grow as a creativeperson.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Totally, and I think
it speaks to the power of
vulnerability.
You know, when you openyourself up, you allow yourself
to be seen, it can really unlocksomething.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
It's making me think
about all the ways I could use
the Listallion Journal myself.
Mm-hmm, you know, maybe I couldstart a gratitude journal or
use it to brainstorm ideas formy next project, or maybe even
document my journey of learninga new skill.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, there's so many
possibilities.
I mean, a journal is a blankslate, right, you can.
You can do whatever you wantwith it.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
That's true, and you
have the support of the
community too, which is reallynice.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, and that's the
thing.
There's no right or wrong wayto journal.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
It's all about
finding what works for you and
letting it evolve.
You know it's funny.
We started this deep divetalking about feeling
overwhelmed by information andnow we're talking about this
simple notebook and how it canhelp us make sense of everything
, connect with others and evenachieve our dreams.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It is kind of a
beautiful paradox.
In this world of constantdigital stimulation, there's
something really grounding aboutputting pen to paper and a
well-designed journal, like theones Lestallion makes, I think,
can be a really great guide andcompanion on that journey,
totally.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
So, as we wrap up our
deep dive into Lestallion
journals, what is the one keytakeaway that you hope our
listener will remember?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
For me, it's just the
understanding that a journal is
so much more than just acollection of pages.
Yeah, it's a tool for personalgrowth, a canvas for creativity
and it's a sanctuary forself-expression.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
So true.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
And while the choice
of journal is ultimately a
personal one, lestallion offersa really compelling blend of
quality, functionality,thoughtful design and community.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Absolutely, and for
me, it's the reminder that, no
matter how busy life gets, it'salways valuable to take a moment
to pause, reflect and connectwith ourselves, and I think a
Lestallion journal can be theperfect invitation to do that.
So, to our listeners, Iencourage you to explore the
world of journaling, discoverwhat resonates with you, and
maybe even treat yourself to aListallion.
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You never know what insightsand inspiration await.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Happy journaling.