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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, so we're diving
into something you've been
curious about and you know it'sreally cool.
It's about journaling foranxiety relief, and you
specifically mentioned theLestallian Journal, right?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
And we know you like
things to be kind of
straightforward and effective,so we're going to like really
try to understand howjournalingaling, and
particularly with a journal thatis actually designed for this
purpose, like the LestallionJournal, can help with anxiety
relief without like adding moreto your plate.
Yeah, we're going to be lookingat some info about the
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Lestallion Journals too, just tokind of get a sense of like
what makes them so useful forthis Right and you know you're
already familiar with Lestallionright, like you've heard of
them.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
You know they're
focused on anxiety relief
through journaling, so let'sjust get right into it, Like how
does this actually work?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I think one of the
most fascinating things is that
journaling really gets to theroot of how we can engage with
our thoughts and emotions.
When anxiety hits, it can feellike this huge wave and it's
tough to understand it orprocess it, and journaling
offers the structured way toslow down.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
And so by writing
things out, you're basically
taking those abstract feelingsand making them something you
can see.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
It's like having a
conversation with yourself, but
you have the space to reallylisten and think.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, that makes
sense, like getting it out of
your head Exactly and onto paper.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So you can actually
look at it.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
And it's not just
about like letting it out, it's
about understanding it more.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Like connecting the
dots, seeing the patterns in
what triggers your anxiety thatyou might not have realized
before, and even starting tochallenge those like negative
thought spirals that can happen.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yes, and you know, if
we look at it from the
perspective of psychology, thisact of writing is very much
aligned with things likecognitive behavioral therapy.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Okay, interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
So, for example, when
you write down a fear, you
create this distance betweenyourself and the thought, and
that allows you to look at itmore rationally.
You start to question it.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Well, that's
interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Like is this really
true, and what evidence do I
have to support it or go againstit?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
So it's like moving
from feeling the anxiety to
actually thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Now we know that our
listener is interested in the
Lestallion Journal.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
And some people might
not be as familiar with it, but
Lestallion makes these journalsthat are specifically made to
help with anxiety relief.
So what are some of the thingsabout these journals that really
stand out when we're talkingabout dealing with anxiety?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
What I find really
smart about the way they've
designed the Lestallion Journalis that even the smallest
details work together to makejournaling more supportive and
something you'll actually stickwith.
For example, they use thispremium 120 GSM wood-free paper.
And it's not just about feelingfancy when your pen glides
smoothly without any scratchingor bleeding.
It actually makes you want towrite more.
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Oh, I see, Because when you'realready dealing with anxiety,
even small frustrations can makeyou less likely to do it.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, that makes
sense.
It's like you're alreadyfeeling overwhelmed.
The last thing you need is apen that's scratching.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Okay, so smooth
writing is a big plus.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yes, definitely.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
What about that cover
, though?
It's like this durable fauxleather Right, it sounds nice,
but how does that help withanxiety?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, think about it
this way that durable cover
gives you a sense of safety and,like your thoughts are
contained, it's like the journalbecomes your own personal safe
space, this special place justfor your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It's something you
can hold and carry, knowing that
it's holding your journey andreflections.
Yeah, it becomes comforting ina way that a flimsy notebook
just wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So the journal itself
can be like a comfort object.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I know the stallion
journals also have numbered
pages and a table of contents.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
They do.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
How does being
organized like that help with
managing anxiety?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Those features can be
surprisingly helpful for
feeling more in control,especially when anxiety can make
you feel so chaotic.
With numbered pages, you caneasily track your entries and go
back to specific thoughts ortimes when you felt a certain
way.
When you're feeling overwhelmed, it can be really validating
and empowering to look back andsee how you've handled similar
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feelings in the past.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
That's so true.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And then the table of
contents takes it even further.
You can actually categorizeyour entries by topic, or the
prompt you used, or even thedate.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Wow, so organized.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So if you notice
something that keeps coming up
in your anxiety, you can easilyfind all the entries related to
that and really see the patternsand how you're dealing with it
so you can actually track yourprogress Exactly.
And seeing how you're movingforward can be really motivating
and help you understandyourself better.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
It's like having a
map of your own mind.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
That's a great way to
put it.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
And I noticed they
also have dashed lined pages, a
back pocket, a good amount ofspace to write wider lines in
ivory paper.
Yes, it seems like they reallyput a lot of thought into the
experience of using it.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Absolutely, they
have-.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Those dashed lines.
What's the deal with that?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
The dashed lines give
you this flexibility, which can
be really freeing.
You can write in a structuredway or get more creative with
things like sketching or mindmapping.
Oh, cool.
Whatever feels best for you atthe time and that back pocket.
It's perfect for holding littlethings that are meaningful to
you.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Oh, like what.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Maybe a quote, you
wrote down a little photo,
anything that makes you feelgood.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It makes the journal
more personal and strengthens
your connection to it.
Yeah, and having plenty ofspace to write means you never
feel limited when you'reexpressing yourself.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Right, you don't want
to run out of room.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Exactly, and those
wider lines can make writing
feel less cramped, which isespecially helpful when you're
anxious and it's harder to focusand the ivory paper is gentler
on your eyes.
It reduces strain and makes thewhole experience more enjoyable
.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So you're more likely
to actually spend time
journaling.
It's exact it seems like allthese features are designed to
make it easier and more invitingto look inward, which is so
important when you're dealingwith anxiety.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I think that's a
really great way to put it.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Now we know that
anxiety can show up in all these
different ways, right?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yes, it does.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Constant worry, that
mental clutter that messes with
your sleep, even physicalsymptoms.
So how does journaling helpwith all of that?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Journaling gives you
this dedicated outlet for all of
that, and it's a nonjudgmentalspace.
What does that meannonjudgmental?
It means you can write whateveryou're feeling without worrying
about someone judging you orinterrupting you.
Oh, okay whatever you'refeeling without worrying about
someone judging you orinterrupting you.
Oh OK, so when your mind isracing with worries, writing
them down can actually slow downthose thoughts and help you
feel some relief.
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Interesting and you know thatmental clutter you mentioned.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Seeing those swirling
thoughts on paper can make them
feel less overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Oh OK.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And anxiety can also
make you feel really isolated
and helpless emotionally, yeah,but your journal is like a
constant companion.
It's a safe place to processthose emotions privately and
start to figure out what helpsyou cope.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
So it's like talking
to a friend who just listens.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You mentioned before
about writing down fears and how
that can help with thosenegative thought patterns, yes,
those cognitive distortions.
So how does that work?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
By writing them down
you can actually challenge them
and see if they're really true.
For example, if you tend toimagine the worst case scenario,
you can write it down and thenwhen you look at it, you might
realize it's actually not verylikely to happen.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
So you're taking
those fears and bringing them
out into the open.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
And that can be scary
, but also really powerful.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It can.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Now, we were talking
earlier about structured
journaling with prompts.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
How effective is that
for anxiety and what kind of
prompts are good to use?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Structured journaling
with prompts can be incredibly
effective, especially whenyou're feeling lost or
overwhelmed.
Okay, the prompts act likeguides and help you focus on
specific things that arerelevant to your anxiety.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
So what's an example
of a good prompt?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, one that can be
really helpful is what
situations or thoughts havetriggered your anxiety in the
past week.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It helps you identify
those patterns and potential
triggers.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Another good one is
describe a time you successfully
got through a challengingsituation.
What strengths did you use?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So you're focusing on
the positive.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Exactly.
It encourages you to rememberthat you're resilient and that
you can handle things.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Those are really
helpful.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
What are some other
examples of prompts that people
could try?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Okay, so a prompt
like what small, manageable
action can I take today toreduce my stress level?
That one focuses on giving youa sense of control.
What is one positive thing Iexperienced today, no matter how
small?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
That one helps you
focus on gratitude and looking
at things in a more positivelight.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Then there's what
aspects of the situation are
within my control and what areoutside of my control.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
So you're separating
what you can change from what
you can't.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Exactly.
It helps you feel less helpless, and a simple but powerful one
is what am I grateful for rightnow?
This brings you back to thepresent moment and can be really
grounding and to directlychallenge those negative
thoughts.
You can use a prompt like howcan I reframe this worry into a
more balanced or manageablethought?
And when you're feeling anxiousin the moment, what are three
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things I can control in thisvery moment?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
So many great prompts
.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
There are so many you
can explore.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I love how these
prompts really guide you to
think about things in a way thatcan help you make positive
changes.
It's not just writing downrandom thoughts.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
It is about making it
more purposeful.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And going back to the
Lestallion Journal with those
numbered pages and the table ofcontents, Right.
Those would be so useful here,because you can track how you
respond to these prompts overtime and see how your
perspective is changing.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Exactly Imagine using
the table of contents to keep
track of all your answers to thewhat are my triggers?
Prompt.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
That's smart.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Over time, you have
this record of what sets off
your anxiety and you could usethat to come up with strategies
to manage or avoid thosesituations.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That's brilliant.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It turns your journal
into this valuable resource for
understanding yourself andgrowing.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
So it's not just a
bunch of random entries, it's
like a guidebook.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I wanted to share a
story about a friend of mine
named Sarah Okay.
She was dealing with a lot ofanxiety because of work.
She was constantly overwhelmedand couldn't switch off.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, I've seen that
a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
So she started
journaling.
She didn't have a list allianjournal at first, just a regular
notebook, Okay.
And she told me that in thebeginning it felt like she was
just writing down all herworries and it wasn't really
helping.
But then she found some promptsonline.
Oh things like what's one thingI can accomplish today that
will make me feel like I'mmaking progress and what are
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three things I did well today?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And she said that
slowly she started to shift her
focus.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
How so.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Instead of just
dwelling on what was going wrong
, she started acknowledging herachievements and finding small
things she could do.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
That's a powerful
shift.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
And over time she
noticed that she was less
anxious and felt more in control.
That's a powerful shift andover time she noticed that she
was less anxious and felt morein control.
That's wonderful.
It wasn't a quick fix, but itwas a gradual change for the
better.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
That's a great
example of how writing things
down can really change how yousee things and how you feel.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I've noticed that,
too, with people I've worked
with, and that when they have adedicated journal, something
that feels special and personal,like a list stallion, they're
more likely to stick with it.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
That makes sense.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
It's like, the
quality of the journal shows how
much you care about taking careof yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, it becomes a
symbol of self-care.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Like having the right
tools for any job.
It makes you want to do itExactly.
So for our listener who's readyto get started, what are some
practical tips for makingjournaling for anxiety work,
especially if they're thinkingabout a?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
listellian journal.
Well, first of all, try to setaside a specific time each day,
even if it's just for 10 or 15minutes.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Being consistent is
really key to making it a habit,
and use those anxiety-specificprompts we talked about to guide
you, especially when you're notsure what to write about.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Don't be afraid to
experiment with different ways
of journaling too.
Some days you might like freewriting better.
Other days you might preferbullet points or even doodles or
sketches right especially withthose dashed lines and the
environment where you journalmatters right it does find a
place that's calm andcomfortable, somewhere you feel
safe and won't be disturbedmakes sense and remember to keep
track of your progress bylooking back at your old entries
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.
The numbered pages and table ofcontents in the Lestallion
Journal make that so much easier.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Pay attention to any
themes that come up, any changes
in your perspective, andcelebrate your growth.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
That durable cover
also helps with making it a
ritual.
It becomes something familiarand comforting.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So it's like a little
ceremony.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yes, and don't forget
that back pocket.
You can put little reminders orinspiring things in there that
resonate with you.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Oh yeah, that's so
cool.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
It really
personalizes it.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
What about those
times when you just don't know
what to write or you forget tojournal?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
That happens to
everyone.
When you're feeling stuck, goback to your list of prompts.
Even picking one randomly canget your thoughts flowing.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Oh, that's a good
idea.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
And keep your journal
and a pen somewhere you can see
them.
That way, you'll be reminded towrite.
You could also set an alarm ortry connecting your journaling
to something you already do,like having your morning coffee
or getting ready for bed.
Those are good tips.
It's all about making it aseasy as possible, and if you
miss a day, don't worry, juststart again the next day.
It's not about being perfect,it's about progress.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
That's a good
reminder.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And you know, a
journal like the Listallion with
those wider lines in the nicepaper can make it feel less
intimidating to start.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Right, like it's
inviting you to write.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Exactly.
So if someone keeps up withjournaling, what kind of
long-term benefits can theyexpect for their anxiety Over
time?
Consistent journaling canreally help you get better at
managing your emotions, how soyou become more aware of your
feelings and learn healthierways to process and respond to
them.
It also helps you understandyourself better.
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You start to see your triggers,your coping mechanisms and your
thought patterns more clearly.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
And it makes you more
resilient right.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yes, by writing about
your challenges and how you
overcame them, you create thistangible record of your own
strength.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Like a testament to
your strength.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yes, and you can
always look back on it when
times are tough.
The journal really becomes thistrusted friend and a powerful
tool for self-discovery andwell-being.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
That's so inspiring.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
It is a journey.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Now, if someone's
looking for a journal
specifically to help them managetheir anxiety, they're thinking
about something like thelistallion.
What are the key things theyshould look for?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
They should look for
a journal with thick,
high-quality paper that feelsgood to write on numbered pages
and a table of contents aresuper helpful for staying
organized and keeping track ofthings.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
A sturdy cover that's
easy to carry is important too,
so you can take it with you.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And lined or dashed.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
That's a personal
preference, but some people find
wider lines easier to write on.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And the Listallion
has all of these features right.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
It does, it really
does.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
So, to sum it up for
our listener, if they want to
start journaling for anxiety,what should they do?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
First things first,
choose your journal and, based
on what we've talked about today, checking out the listallion
with its anxiety-focusedfeatures would be a great place
to start.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Then think about what
you want to get out of
journaling.
What are your goals Right?
Find a place where you feelcomfortable and can really focus
.
Start small, just aim for fiveminutes a day to begin with and,
most importantly, be patientwith yourself and be kind to
yourself.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, focus on what
you're learning, not on judging
your writing or how intense yourfeelings are.
So it sounds like journaling isa really accessible and
powerful way to understand andmanage anxiety.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And the Lestallion
Journal, with its thoughtful
design, gives you thissupportive and structured space
to explore yourself.
Yes, it's all about makingself-reflection a regular habit
and getting to know yourselfbetter.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Opening a new page in
a journal might seem like a
small thing, but it has thepotential to change how you deal
with anxiety and improve yourwell-being.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
It's the first step
on a journey.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
And on that note,
I'll leave you with this what
could you discover aboutyourself and your inner strength
if you made a space for yourthoughts and gave your anxiety a
chance to be seen andunderstood?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
That's a powerful
question.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Food for thought.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
It is.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Thanks for joining us
for this deep dive.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
It's been a pleasure.