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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Deep
Dive.
Today we're tackling somethingI think a lot of us struggle
with right Work-life balance.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
That constant pull.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Exactly.
It's that feeling, you know,like work just keeps spilling
over into personal time and it'sjust really hard to properly
switch off.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yeah, and that can
lead to feeling well, pretty
overwhelmed, stressed out,anxious.
It really takes a toll.
You feel like life's just kindof happening to you because of
work.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So the mission for
this deep dive is to explore how
maybe a more structured way ofmanaging tasks, and even just
your thoughts, can lead to aroutine that feels well more
fulfilling.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And hopefully stop
that feeling of life just
slipping away because of jobdemands.
We'll be looking at a fewdifferent ideas and sources
around this.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Right, and one
resource that comes up quite a
bit when people talk about thisis the Lestallion Journal.
It's not new.
Many of you might know italready.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, it's known for
its design specifically aimed at
helping with organization andbuilding those mindful routines.
We looked into why thesejournals seem to click for
people trying to find thatbalance.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
What's interesting is
how some of the features things
you might not think much aboutactually play a big role.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Like the numbered
pages, 211 of them, I think.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Exactly, it's not
just for page numbers.
It kind of builds this sense ofprogress, you know, and lets
you easily flip back to earlierthoughts or plans.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And the paper quality
too, that thicker 120 GSM paper
.
It makes writing feel a bitmore intentional, like a small
ritual.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Totally Plus the soft
faux leather cover.
It feels durable, likesomething you could actually use
every day.
It becomes this dedicated,organized space.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
They come in
different options too right Soft
cover, hard cover.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, and different
colors Ash, gray, black, cocoa
brown, royal blue, even aproactive purple.
It shows some thought went intothe design.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
But it's less about
the look and more about how
having that specific physicalspace can be well surprisingly
effective for tackling thoseeveryday work-life struggles.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Okay, so let's dig
into why having a dedicated
journal, maybe like a listallion, is actually pretty essential
here.
It's easy to just see it as anotebook, right.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Just paper?
Yeah, but if you shiftperspective, see it as a tool, a
tool for organizing, forsetting priorities, even for
just like sorting out what'sgoing on in your head.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Then it starts to
look really powerful.
You're taking all that mentalclutter, all those swirling
tasks and worries, and givingthem a specific place Order out
of chaos, sort of.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
In the act of
journaling itself.
We know it's good for timemanagement and definitely for
reducing stress.
Features like those numberedpages and having a table of
contents like in the Lestallionjournals.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Right, that really
elevates it.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It turns it from just
you know, random notes into
something you can actuallynavigate A log of your
intentions, your progress, yourinsights.
That's key.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
You can see how it
works in practice, like planning
your week.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Instead of just a
mental list that keeps changing.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
You actually sit down
, open the journal and map out.
Okay, here are my work goalsand here are my personal things
I want to do or need to do.
And then you can track howyou're doing, not just ticking
boxes, but getting a realpicture of where your time and
energy are actually going across.
You know all parts of your life.
It's not just about tasks,though, is it?
It's also about reflecting on,like your stress levels, how
(03:14):
you're feeling.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
That's crucial.
Lots of sources emphasize this.
Just noting down when you feelpressured or anxious, you start
seeing patterns.
What are the triggers?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
And the flip side,
like gratitude journaling,
writing down things you'rethankful for that can seriously
shift your mindset.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Absolutely, it builds
resilience.
And this is where you know youlistening can really gain some
self-awareness, those quickinsights into your own habits,
your emotional reactions.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I actually remember a
friend she was a marketing
manager constantly glued to herinbox, like even in the evenings
with her family.
She was only half there, alwaysglancing at her phone.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Oh yeah, I know that
feeling.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
She started using a
listallion journal, just a few
minutes each evening, wrote downwhat she got done at work and
then explicitly noted okay, I'mswitching off now.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Just writing it down.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, and gradually
she found she could actually be
more present at home andsurprisingly she felt less
anxious about work stuff in theevenings, not more.
The journal helped her createthat boundary.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
That's a great
example that structured
reflection really making adifference.
Yeah, okay.
So let's talk about some commonstruggles people face Burnout,
feeling overloaded.
Seems like everyone's dealingwith that these days.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
It's so prevalent.
And the thing is you oftendon't realize how bad it's
getting until you're really deepin it.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Exactly, you just
keep pushing.
Journaling gives you that spaceto check in with yourself
regularly.
How's my energy?
Am I sleeping okay?
How's my mood Generally?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Documenting it day by
day.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Lets you spot those
early warning signs of stress
building up before it becomesfull-blown burnout.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Like a personal alarm
system.
I had a cousin, a softwaredeveloper crazy deadlines
Started getting these persistentheadaches.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Thought it was just
screen time, you know.
But when he started journalingabout his days just basic notes
he saw this clear pattern.
Headaches always came afterdays where work was super
intense.
He skipped lunch, worked late.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Ah, the journal
showed him the connection.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, it basically
became his prompt to actually
build in breaks, to not skiplunch.
It forced him to see the impact.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
That really
highlights the self-awareness
piece.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Okay, another big one
Setting boundaries, or rather
the inability to set boundaries,that always-on feeling.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Ugh, yes, the
expectation that you're
available 24-7,.
It's draining, and this iswhere using a physical notebook
writing things down it can besurprisingly powerful.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
How so.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well, actually
writing down your rules like no
work emails after 7 pm orSundays are strictly family time
.
Putting it in ink makes it feelmore concrete yeah, realm, or
Sundays are strictly family time.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Putting it in ink
makes it feel more concrete.
Yeah, real Right.
It's not just a vague intentionfloating around in your head.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
And having a
dedicated journal like the
Listallion.
Yeah, it becomes this likephysical anchor for those
boundaries.
You wrote it there, it's inthis book.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
It reinforces the
commitment.
Every time you see it or usethe journal Makes it tangible.
I remember years ago I reallystruggled with responding to
work stuff late at night.
Felt like I had to.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah that pressure so
.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I started using a
specific section in my journal
actually was the listallion backthen too just to define my
office hours and I'd make aquick note.
And did I stick to it today?
Yes, no, why, or why not?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Ah, tracking it,
seeing it in black and white,
the patterns of when I broke myown rule.
That really helped me stick toit more often and feel less
guilty about not respondingimmediately.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
The journal kind of
holds you accountable to
yourself.
Okay, what about restlessness,anxiety, that feeling, that work
is just dominating everything.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, that low-level
hum of worry Journaling's great
for mindfulness here.
Just taking five minutes to sit, focus on your thoughts, maybe
write them down without judgment, it could be really grounding.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Getting it out of
your head and onto the page.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Exactly and things
like gratitude practice writing
down what you're thankful foractively shifts your focus away
from the anxieties and thosenumbered pages we mentioned In
Lostallion you can easily flipback.
Okay, I felt anxious like thistwo months ago.
What did I write then?
What helped?
You can track your triggers andwhat coping strategies actually
worked for you.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Okay, so let's dive a
bit deeper, then.
How specifically doesjournaling help establish those
work-life boundaries?
It's clearly more than justmaking lists.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Way more.
It's about intentional designof your life, really Creating
that deliberate separation.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Not just reacting to
whatever comes your way.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Precisely when you
take the time to write down your
goals work goals, sure, butalso personal life goals, what
you want your non-work time tolook and feel like you start
drawing the lines, you defineyour expectations, you identify
your non-negotiables forpersonal time and well-being.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
And how does writing
that down actually manifest as a
boundary in your day-to-day?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well, first, it helps
you visualize a schedule that
actually includes both.
You allocate time for work, yes, but also for family, exercise,
hobbies, just relaxing.
Having that structure makes iteasier to say no to things that
would infringe on that personaltime.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Because you've
already committed that time
elsewhere on paper.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Right.
It also shines a light ontime-wasting habits.
Maybe you realize you spent anhour scrolling social media
right after work when youintended to go for a walk.
Seeing that written down canprompt change.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
And it boosts
self-awareness.
Right, you start to recognizeyour own limits.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Definitely you get
better at sensing when you're
nearing overload before you hitthe wall, and that awareness is
fundamental to protecting yourboundaries proactively, not just
after you've already burned out.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So, bringing it back
to the listallion features, how
do things like numbered pages orthe table of contents
specifically help with thisboundary setting process?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
OK, think about using
the start of the journal, those
first pages, for morning pages.
Okay, think about using thestart of the journal, those
first pages, for morning pages.
You lay out your priorities forthe day, not just work tasks,
but also.
I will stop work at 6 pm or Iwill take a full lunch break.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Setting the intention
.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Exactly, Then maybe
use later pages numbered pages
you can find easily for eveningreflection.
Did I stick to my 6 pm stoptime?
What made it easy or hard?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And the table of
contents lets you track those
reflections.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, you can have a
section in your contents page
like boundary reflections so youcan easily go back over weeks
or months and see, OK, whatstrategies are actually working
for me.
Where do I keep stumbling?
It makes the journal an activetool for managing and
reinforcing those boundaries,not just a diary.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Right, it's not a
passive thing, so wrapping this
up, it feels like journalingisn't some magic bullet,
obviously, but it's a reallypowerful, consistent practice.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
It is.
It cultivates thatself-awareness, helps you get
organized and, crucially, bringsintentionality to how you
navigate that work-personal-lifeintersection.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Especially with a
well-designed tool like the
listallion we've talked about.
It really provides clarity inwhat can feel like a very blurry
situation.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
It helps chip away at
that feeling of overwhelm,
gives you a space to process,prioritize and really define and
defend those boundaries thatprotect your well-being.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
So for you listening,
maybe, think about the impact
of even small, consistentjournaling efforts.
It could really help reclaimsome time and energy.
And here's a thought to leaveyou with yeah, what's just one
boundary, maybe a small one tostart, that you could
consciously define and thenreflect on in a journal this
week.
Just one thing to carve out abit more personal space.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
That's a good
challenge, that dedicated space
for reflection.
It really could be the catalystyou need for a more balanced
routine.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Absolutely.