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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, so you're here
with us because you want to cut
through all the clutter, right?
You want to, like, get to theheart of the stuff you're
interested in without having tospend hours and hours reading.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
So that's what we do
here, right?
We deep dive into things.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We do.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
And for this one,
we're focusing on something that
I think is really close to theheart of anyone who loves to
read.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
A dedicated journal
for your reading life.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Oh, that's good.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
We're going to be
looking at information from
Listallion Notebooks.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
They're designed
specifically for book lovers.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Right, those guys,
they get it.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, so they do.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
They understand that
there's something about really
wanting to hold on to thosethoughts you get when you read
something great.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Absolutely, really
wanting to hold on to those
thoughts you get when you readsomething.
Great, absolutely, and you know, we know that you're someone
who you know appreciates, reallylike engaging with what you
read.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
You're not just
skimming.
Yeah, you're not just skimming,you're really thinking about it
and we're going to look at howjournaling can like really just
make that experience even better.
And Lestallion's approach totheir notebooks is a great way
to kind of look at this wholething.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
For sure, for sure.
So Listallion offers a bunch ofdifferent journals.
Like they've got soft coverones like that Eryjois, ash,
gray, black.
That's usually around $24.95.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, I've seen that
one.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
And then they've got
hardcover versions too, like the
A5 Hardcover Journal Notebook,black Faux Leather.
I think those sometimes go onsale for like $22.95 or even
$19.95.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
A good deal.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, so they've got
a whole variety of colors and
bindings.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
They know that people
like choice.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
They do, they get it.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
They get it.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
What we really want
to get into today is the
fundamental question Like whyeven have a whole notebook just
for your reading?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Right, why bother?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, so our mission
today is to understand how a
journal, especially one withfeatures that are made for
people who love books, how canthat really deepen your
connection to literature?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
well, let's just
imagine, okay yeah imagine a
book, yeah, that just completelylike, captivates you.
It sparks all these thoughtsand emotions.
Maybe it even changes yourperspective a little bit oh yeah
a dedicated journal andlistallion gets this, it becomes
like the central place for allof that.
Oh, I like that you know youcan keep track of your
intellectual and emotionaljourney through the books you
(02:14):
read why you?
Can revisit, you know the partsthat really had an impact on
you and you can organize yourevolving understanding.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You know as you go
right because you know as you go
Right, because you're changingas you read more and more Right.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Exactly, and for you,
as someone who values knowledge
, this is like a super powerfultool for remembering and
reflecting.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, that's huge.
I love that idea Like a centralrepository.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
It's not just like
jotting down random thoughts
here and there, oh no, it's likereally intentionally building
something tangible, a record ofyour life as a reader.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I love that A record
of your life as a reader.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, and Lestallion
gets this.
They really emphasize howwriting about books enhances
that connection with thematerial.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
It's not just about
like oh, what happened in the
plot, right, it's about how itmade you feel.
The idea is that it sparked foryou.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
It's personal.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
It's super personal.
It is, and you know, we live inthis increasingly digital world
.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
We are surrounded.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
So there's something
really satisfying about having
this like physical space.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, that analog
space just for you.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, for those
personal reflections.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, and you know,
when you actually physically
write something, it engagesdifferent parts of your brain.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It does.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
It encourages a
slower, more deliberate process
of thinking.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I can see that and
list aliens journals.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
With the way they've
designed them, they really get
that they do, they do and theorganizational aspect they've
built in is key to, especiallyfor someone like you who values
efficiency.
You know it's not just aboutgetting those fleeting thoughts
down it's about having a systemto manage your reading, you know
, keeping track of what you wantto read, what you've finished,
(03:50):
your thoughts on specific authorgenres.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
That's so key.
It's like a whole system foryour reading life.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It is.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Which brings us to
you know what makes a journal
truly useful.
For a book lover Like right,it's not just any old notebook.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
No, no, no, you can't
just slap some pages together.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Lestallion.
They talk about the importanceof quality.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And for good reason.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
For good reason.
If you're going to invest yourtime and thoughts into this, you
want a journal that's going tolast and actually make writing
in it enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Absolutely, and
that's where the specific
features of a journal, like theones Lestall makes, come in okay
, tell me more so they use thisthick 120 GSM wood free ivory
paper.
Okay now, what that means foryou is that it's a much smoother
writing surface.
It makes journaling morepleasurable.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I can imagine.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah and, importantly
, that heavier paperweight.
It means that ink doesn't bleedthrough as much.
So, whether you like aballpoint pen, a gel pen, even a
fountain pen, oh, wow.
Your notes are going to stayclear and distinct.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
That's great for
people with fountain pens.
It is Because they're alwaysworried about that bleed through
.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, it shows that
they're really thinking about
the person who's using it.
You know it does.
They've thought about theexperience.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
And you know that's
such a good point about the
paper, because there's nothingworse than seeing like the ghost
of what you wrote on theprevious page.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Oh, it's so
distracting.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
It's so distracting,
so distracting.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
It is.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
So, Lestallion, they
also include 211 numbered pages
in their journals.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I love numbered pages
.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, and you know,
for you, as someone who
appreciates structure, thissimple feature is actually
really powerful for organization.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
It really is.
Those numbered pages are thefoundation for what LaStallion
calls and they're right a gamechanger, a built-in table of
contents.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
So think about it
from your perspective.
Okay, you're reading a complexhistory book, let's say, and
there's this one argument orpiece of evidence that just
really grabs you, you know yeah.
So you make a note about it,maybe write down some
reflections and you put it on aspecific page.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Right right.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Months later, you
want to go back to that insight.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
With numbered pages
and a table of contents, you can
find your notes so quickly.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
You don't have to
flip through the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Exactly.
You don't have to leaf throughthe whole journal.
You could organize it byhistorical period, by the
author's main points or howeveryou think you know.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
That's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Whatever works for
you.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
It's like you're
creating your own person index
to all this knowledge you'retaking in.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I love that.
Yeah, it's your own littledatabase.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And you know, besides
the paper quality and the
numbered pages Lestallion, theyinclude these practical features
like a back pocket.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Oh yeah, I love a
back pocket.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
For someone like you,
who's probably always coming
across interesting articles orgetting recommendations, that
little pocket is perfect forstashing things like bookstore
receipts.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Or a quote that you
jotted down, or any other little
thing that connects to yourreading.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Those little details.
They can really make yourjournaling experience so much
richer over time.
You know you really can, theyreally can and we can't forget
about the cover the cover isimportant listalion offers
premium faux leather soft coverand those really durable
hardcover options yeah, and it'snot just about looking.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Good right, a good
cover yeah protects your journal
.
It makes sure your thoughts aresafe, even if you're using it
all the time it's an investmentit really is they're thinking
about longevity and value youknow it's funny you talking
about how useful organized bookjournaling can be.
It reminds me of my friend mark.
Okay, he is so smart, alwaysreading tons of non-fiction, but
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his notes were a mess oh no Imean he had highlights and books
, notes scattered in digitalfiles, even voice memos that
he'd forgotten all about oh,I've been there it was like
having this massive library butno way to find anything oh,
that's frustrating sofrustrating.
And then, about a year ago, hestarted using a listallion
(07:44):
journal okay he loved thenumbered pages and the idea of
making a table of contents, sohe started logging his key
takeaways from each chapter.
He was writing down connectionsbetween different books, even
outlining potential researchtopics.
You know that came up as he wasreading.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
That's a great system
.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It is, and he told me
it totally changed how he felt
about the material.
Yeah, he felt more in controlof the information.
It totally changed how he feltabout the material.
He felt more in control of theinformation, his understanding
got deeper and he could actuallybuild on what he was learning
way more effectively.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
It's not just
passively reading anymore.
It's like he's interacting withthe knowledge.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Exactly, exactly, and
that's such a good example of
how intentional journaling,especially with a well-designed
notebook like a Lestallion, canreally empower your learning
process.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, it shows you
some practical ways that you can
use a journal for your own booktracking.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Okay, so how would
you suggest someone start?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, like we were
talking about with those
numbered pages, start with thattable of contents.
That's crucial, okay, and youcan create sections for whatever
interests you, maybe keyarguments from nonfiction books,
character analyses for novels,you know, whatever fits your
style.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And it doesn't have
to be this big long thing after
every chapter.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
It could be as simple
as just writing down two or
three of the most importantideas from a reading session, or
a quote that really stood outto you.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Exactly, and don't
forget to note the page number.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Right and Lestallion
gives you 211 pages, so you got
plenty of space.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Plenty of space.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
To like develop those
thoughts over time without
feeling like you're going to runout of room.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
No pressure.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
No pressure.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
You could even
dedicate a couple pages at the
beginning to list the books readthis year.
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
That's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Just a simple way to
see your progress.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
These methods, they
can really transform reading
into something more active andrewarding.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
It makes you feel
like you're really getting
something out of it.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It does and like
Lestallion suggests.
You know, this can also makeyour book club discussion so
much better.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Imagine being able to
just flip to your notes and
bring up a specific passage.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Oh, you'd be the star
.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Right, it just adds
so much depth to the
conversation.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Now I know for
someone like you who's probably
got a million things going on.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Oh, yeah, tell me
about it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Adding another thing
to your to-do list might seem a
little overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
And Lestallion
acknowledges that people might
feel like they just don't havetime to journal consistently.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
That's a common
concern, yeah, so what
strategies do you recommend forovercoming that, well, that lack
of time thing?
It's often more aboutperception than reality Okay.
Like Lestallion shows us withtheir notebooks, it doesn't have
to be a huge time commitment.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Okay, good.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Even just a few
minutes after you finish reading
to jot down your initialthoughts.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
It can be so valuable
.
It helps solidify what you justread, yeah and remember.
Consistency, even in smallchunks, is way more effective
than these like big, sporadicentries.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
That makes a lot of
sense.
It's about making it part ofyour routine rather than adding
this whole other thing Exactly.
Maybe for you it could be thelast thing you do before you put
a book down for the night.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Perfect.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
And what about that
feeling that your journal
entries had to be like superprofound?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh yeah, the blank
page can be intimidating.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
It can be so
intimidating it can.
So how do you deal with that?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Well, it's important
to remember and this is
something that Lestallion kindof hints at with their designs
that this journal is for you.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
It's personal.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
It's personal.
There's no pressure to writeperfectly or come up with
groundbreaking analysis everytime.
Just get your honest thoughtsand reactions down.
It's for you.
Yeah, embrace the imperfections.
They're part of your journeywith the book.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
That's such a good
point and, you know, this is
where I think the features of awell-made journal, like the ones
Lestallion makes they canactually be really motivating.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Really, yeah, like
the feel of that smooth paper.
The way it's organized it makesit feel less like a chore and
more like a natural part ofreading it does.
If the tool itself is enjoyableto use, you're more likely to
actually use it.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
You're more likely to
pick it up and write in it, for
sure, and you know the benefits.
They go beyond just rememberingthings and being organized.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
They do.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Like Lestallion,
seems to understand when they
create this space for thoughtfulengagement.
Reflecting on the themes andideas in books can give you new
perspectives on your own life.
Oh yeah, like activelyprocessing what you're reading
instead of just passively takingit in.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
You know, I've
actually experienced this myself
.
When I go back and read oldjournal entries about books I
read years ago, I oftenunderstand them in a whole new
way.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It's like a time
capsule.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
It is.
It's like a dialogue with yourpast self.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
And I can see how
regularly engaging with these
ideas, like a dedicated journalencourages you to do, could make
you more grateful and mindful.
For sure You're taking the timeto really appreciate the impact
of what you're reading.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, and it becomes
a creative outlet too, your
journal.
It's like a safe space toexplore your own interpretations
, to wrestle with complicatedideas and let your thoughts
develop naturally, you know,inspired by the books you're
reading.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
So it's more than
just a place to keep track of
books.
It's a tool yeah, it's a toolfor deeper understanding,
personal reflection and a richerexperience with literature.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
If you're thinking
about taking your reading to a
whole new level, exploring ajournal designed for book lovers
the ones from Lestallion couldbe a really smart move.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Okay, so let's sum it
all up for you.
Okay, we've explored how adedicated journal, especially
one with features like highquality paper, numbered pages, a
built-in table of contents anda durable cover.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
This stuff Lestallion
really focuses on Exactly it
can really enhance your readinglife.
It helps you stay organized,encourages you to think more
deeply about what you read andultimately helps you connect
with those books on a deeperlevel.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
And here's a final
thought for you to ponder.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Think about the books
that have really had an impact
on you, the ones that changedthe way you think or made you
feel something profound.
Now imagine if you hadjournaled about those books as
you were reading them.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
How might that have
changed things?
Would your insights have beeneven stronger?
Would you have made even morepersonal discoveries?
Would those experiences be evenmore lasting and meaningful for
you?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
That's something to
think about.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
It's an invitation to
go beyond just reading and to
actively participate in your ownintellectual and emotional
journey through literature.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I love that.
I do too.
I think that's a perfect placeto end.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
It is.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
So until next time,
happy reading everyone.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Happy reading Bye.