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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Deep
Dive.
Today we're tackling somethingwell pretty relevant for most of
us, I think.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Definitely feels that
way.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
How to find a bit
more balance, you know yeah in
our super connected lives.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Specifically thinking
about intentionally cutting
back on screen time.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Which is tough when
you want to stay informed.
Right, the digital noise isjust constant.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Exactly.
It can feel overwhelming,especially if you value
efficiency and getting good info.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Absolutely.
You're trying to learn, tryingto connect, but it's just this
barrage.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
So we've been looking
into some resources on this,
including the approach fromLestallion, with their notebooks
designed for digital detox.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Right.
They have some interestingthoughts on why it's needed and
how to actually do it.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, so our mission
today is to kind of dig into
that, pull out some usefulinsights.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Like why is this
digital detox thing so crucial
right now?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
And how can something
like a physical journal, which
Lestallion has obviously putthought into, how can that
actually help?
Seems almost counterintuitivesometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It does, but maybe
surprisingly effective.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Okay, so let's start
with the problem itself
Technology overload Right.
The materials we looked at,including Lestallion's points
and broader research, they statepretty clearly that digital
overload has become a seriousproblem.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
No question.
And it's not just feeling a bitfrazzled.
It hits our mental health,stress levels and overall
well-being Really significantimpacts.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
And there's data
backing this up right Studies
linking excessive technologyusage.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Oh yeah, Lots of them
showing connections to
increased anxiety, depressivesymptoms, even poor sleep
quality.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And we found
references Lestallion mentions
this too to a systematic reviewof research on digital detox
interventions.
What does that actually tell us?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Well.
A systematic review pullstogether findings from lots of
different studies.
It gives a stronger pictureoverall and in this case, they
consistently show that reducingscreen time leads to significant
improvements in mental clarity,emotional regulation and
cognitive function.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
So real, measurable
benefits, not just feeling
better, but actually thinkingclearer.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Exactly Because think
about what's happening All
those social media platforms,notifications, smartphone usage.
It just constantly bombards thebrain.
The sources say it canoverwhelm us, leading to things
like attention deficits andchronic stress.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
It really feels like
that sometimes, like your brain
is juggling too many balls.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, constantly
pulling different directions,
your focus gets fragmented.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So taking time away
from screens, as Lestallion
suggests, it's like hitting areset button.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Kind of it lets you
reset habits, gives your brain a
breather.
This can genuinely improve moodand focus and, importantly, it
creates space for moremeaningful real-world
experiences.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I remember last year,
working on this intense project
, my phone was buzzingconstantly and even when I knew
it wasn't urgent, I'd justglance at it reflexively and I
realized how much was breakingmy concentration.
Just adding this low-level humof stress.
I couldn't get into that deepfocus zone.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
That's a perfect
example of what we're talking
about that constant interruption.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
So Lestellian's
approach really highlights
journaling here as an effectiveintervention for cutting back
screen use.
How does that work?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Well, it's
fascinating.
Actually Writing by handactivates different parts of the
brain compared to typing.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Really.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, Research
suggests it fosters more
mindfulness, focus and emotionalbalance.
The physical act itself isdifferent.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That makes sense.
Typing can feel quite detachedsometimes.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Right and think about
digital notes or apps.
You open one to jot somethingdown and boom, there's an email
alert, a news headline.
You're easily pulled away.
Distraction is built in.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So true the intention
gets lost so fast.
A physical journal is Well,it's just the journal.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Exactly, it's a
dedicated offline space.
Lestallion points out using anotebook for digital detox can
help reduce stress, improvesleep and enhance mood.
Why?
Because it gives you a place toprocess thoughts without
digital interruption.
Like decluttering your mindwhile Precisely and writing down
your goals, reflections andscreen-free activities, like
(04:13):
they suggest.
It makes your commitment moretangible, keeps you engaged with
the real-world stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And the journal
itself matters too, doesn't it?
Lestallion talks about theirfeatures high-quality, 120 GSM
paper numbered pages.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Absolutely.
The experience of writingmatters If the paper feels good,
if it doesn't bleed through.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You're more likely to
actually use it.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Exactly.
It enhances the writingexperience and things like
numbered pages and the built-intable of contents that
Lestallian journals have.
That's not just for neatness ithelps you track your progress,
revisit thoughts easily, makesthe whole digital detox journey
more structured and insightful.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Like creating your
own personal map of the journey.
Okay, let's flip side for amoment the risks of not tackling
this overload.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, it's important
to understand the potential
downsides.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
The resources mention
clear links between excessive
technology usage and things likedepression, anxiety and sleep
disturbances.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yes, the research is
pretty consistent there.
High levels of social mediaengagement and just general
prolonged screen time candisrupt normal brain function.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Leading to what.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Things like a reduced
attention span, which many
people feel, and, perhaps,counterintuitively, increased
feelings of isolation.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Right Connected, but
maybe not deeply.
What drives this, though?
What makes it addictive?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Well, lestallion
highlights a few key factors.
One is obvious those constantnotifications and alerts.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
To keep pulling you
back in.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Exactly.
Then there's the addictivenature of scrolling through
social media platforms.
The algorithms are designed tokeep you hooked.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Endless scrolling
yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
It can become
compulsive usage very easily.
And finally, just the sheerover-reliance on smartphones for
entertainment and communication.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Which crowds out
in-person interactions.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Potentially.
Yes, you lose some of thatrichness.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I remember a friend
telling me if she realized she
barely made eye contact duringconversations anymore because
she was always half aware of herphone, even if it was in her
bag.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Wow, yeah, that
really illustrates the point.
It changes how we engage.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
But it's not hopeless
.
Lestallion mentions ameta-analysis of digital detox
strategies suggesting smallsteps help.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yes, it found that
even a gradual reduction of
screen time can lead tosignificant improvements in
mental clarity and emotionalresilience.
It doesn't have to be all ornothing.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
And using tools like
a planner or bullet journal to
physically track screen time andreplace digital habits.
That fits right in with theLestallion approach.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Exactly.
It's about building awarenessand making conscious choices for
long-term digital well-being.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
So okay, let's get
practical.
Someone wants to try this usinga journal?
Yeah.
What are the steps?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Right, it's about
reducing dependency and
reclaiming control, notnecessarily eliminating tech
entirely.
The journal notebook is youranchor.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
First step.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Set clear intentions,
as Lestallion suggests.
Write down why you're doingthis.
Is it to improve mental health,reduce stress or enhance focus?
Get specific.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Makes it real Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Step two create a
technology-free plan.
Use the notebook to brainstormand schedule screen-free
activities.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Like what.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Anything really
Reading physical books,
practicing mindfulness, outdoorworkouts, writing letters or
just journaling itself.
Fill the time constructively.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And you mentioned the
feel of the journal earlier
Lestallion's soft faux leathercover.
Does that actually help?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I think it can.
Yeah, it makes the physical actmore pleasant, more intentional
.
It provides a nice, luxuriousfeel.
A contrast to cold glass andmetal reinforces the break.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Creates a positive
ritual around disconnecting.
Okay, third step.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Track your progress.
Use the journal daily.
Reflect on how the screen timereduction is going.
How's your mood and energylevels.
What challenges came up?
What strategies worked?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Learning as you go.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Precisely.
Lestallion shares an exampleEmily's Journey where using
their journal helped her limitsocial media, silence
notifications and schedulejournaling time.
And it worked Led to improvedmental health.
She felt she reclaimed time andapparently the built-in table
of contents was really helpfulfor her to look back and see
patterns.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
That feature does
sound genuinely useful for
tracking change over time.
Not just random notes, but anorganized reflection.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Right.
It aids navigation through yourown thoughts during the detox.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So Lestallion's
journals.
They seem designed with thisspecific purpose in mind.
Premium notebooks 211 pages,that wood-free ivory paper, the
soft faux leather cover,numbered pages and that table of
contents.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, the features
work together.
The high-quality 120 GSM paperensures a smooth writing
experience, no scratchiness orbleed-through.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Which makes you want
to write more.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Exactly.
The numbered pages and table ofcontents provide structure.
The soft cover makes it tactile, appealing.
A welcome break from screens.
It's about making the detoxprocess itself feel good.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Okay, so wrapping
this up, the big takeaway seems
to be digital overload is real.
It impacts us significantly.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Absolutely and taking
intentional breaks.
Re-evaluating our tech use isbecoming essential for
well-being.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
And journaling,
especially with a thoughtfully
designed notebook like the onesfrom Lestallion, offers a really
powerful, tangible way tosupport that detox process.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, it's not just
about reducing screen time, but
about what you gain Greatermindfulness and self-awareness,
improved emotional well-beingand mental clarity.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
And hopefully
healthier relationships with
technology and people.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
That's the goal
Cultivating mindfulness finding
more balance.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
A notebook can be a
surprisingly effective tool for
that.
It's a simple thing but maybepowerful, A way to kind of
rewire habits and embrace a morebalanced life.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
So maybe a final
thought for everyone listening
Think about how much time slipsaway on screens almost
unconsciously.
What's one small, intentionalstep you could take today to
carve out just a few moments foryourself offline, just with
your thoughts?
What might you discover in thatquiet space?