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Speaker 1 (00:00):
ever wake up from a
dream and it's like, right there
, yeah, so vivid, you can almosttouch it.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
But then poof, it's
gone, like you were trying to
hold water in your hands.
Yeah, and you're left with thisfeeling like whoa, something
important just brushed past mymind.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I think we all know
that feeling.
It's so common.
It's like getting a glimpseinto another world, yeah, and
then it just vanishes.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Right.
So that leads us to today'sdeep dive.
We're going to be talking aboutdream journaling.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Dream journaling.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And we're really
going to go deep on this.
We're not just talking about oh, this is a quirky thing you can
do before bed.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We're going to be
looking at how writing down your
dreams can actually help youunderstand yourself better.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
It's powerful stuff.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We're going gonna be
looking at some of the ideas
behind list allion and theirjournal notebook for dreams.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh yeah, those
journals, to see how this
practice of dream journaling can, like unlock some of those
mysteries that our subconsciousthrows at us yeah, unlocking
those mysteries exactly and, youknow, hopefully lead to some
personal growth absolutely listallion.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
They really get it.
They make these journalsspecifically for this kind of
self-reflection.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
And their features
are really well thought out.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
When you think about
how hard it is to actually
remember and then work with yourdreams.
Yeah, it's not easy, no.
So today we're going to explorehow dream journaling is so much
more than just remembering whatyou dreamt, and how having the
right tool for it, like aLestallion journal, can make a
real difference in connectingwith that inner world.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
That inner landscape.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, by the end of
this deep dive you'll have a
much better grasp of how to useyour dreams for personal growth
through journaling.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Okay, so we all dream
right.
It's like this nightly mentaladventure.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It is Every night.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
But why bother
writing it down?
Why pick up a pen and paperfirst thing in the morning?
What's the point?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, think about it.
When you're asleep, your brainis in a totally different state
Less filter, less consciousthought and dreams.
They often speak in thislanguage of symbols and emotions
.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Almost like a secret
code.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
It is a secret code.
It is a secret code, it's adirect line to your subconscious
, to those thoughts and feelingsyou might not even be aware of.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So it's like your
inner voice speaking in a
different language.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Exactly yeah.
And dream journaling it becomesthe translator.
It helps you decipher thosemessages.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So you're saying it's
more than just entertainment,
more than just random brainactivity?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Way more, while
dreams can be weird and funny,
sometimes even scary.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
If you journal
consistently, you start to see
patterns.
Okay, you might noticerecurring images, certain
emotions popping up over andover or similar scenarios
playing out.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
So it's not just
random noise, not at all those
patterns.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
They usually reflect
something deeper going on in
your life.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Oh, ok, so you're
saying these nightly stories can
give us clues about our wakinglife, even our problems.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Exactly.
Think of it like this You'rewaking mind like an editor,
carefully selecting thoughts andpresenting a polished version
of reality like a highlight reelRight.
But dreams they bypass thateditor Like a highlight reel
Right, but dreams they bypassthat editor.
They let raw emotions andassociations bubble up in
symbolic form.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Ah, I see.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
And when you journal,
you create a space to observe
those unfiltered expressions.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Like a scientist
looking at raw data.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Exactly.
And those symbols and emotions?
They often point to hiddenmeanings, maybe a new
perspective on a situationyou're dealing with, or maybe
even aspirations you didn'trealize you had.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So it's like
receiving a coded message from
yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
That's a great way to
put it, and journaling
encourages you to crack thatcode.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Okay, that makes
sense, but I got to say one of
the biggest challenges for me isactually remembering the dream.
I wake up and it's like thefeeling is there, yeah, but the
details, they just vanish likesmoke.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
That happens to
almost everyone and there's a
scientific reason for it.
During REM sleep, your brain isin this unique state where
long-term memory encoding isjust not as efficient as when
you're awake.
Then, when you wake up fully,it disrupts that fragile dream
memory even more.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So it's like trying
to grasp at something that's
slipping away.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, and that's
where journaling comes in
Writing things down immediately,even if it's just a few
keywords or a strong image orthe main emotion you felt.
It can act as an anchor.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Preserving a piece of
that dream before it disappears
completely.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
So it's like grabbing
onto that smoke before it fades
away.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Exactly, and that's
why keeping your journal close,
like those Lestallion journalsright by your bed it becomes
crucial.
It's a reminder to capturethose fleeting moments.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
What about the
not-so-fun dreams, though, like
nightmares.
It feels like those are theones you just want to forget,
asap totally, I get it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
The temptation is to
just bury them.
Yeah, but even those disturbingdreams, they hold valuable
information about our fears andanxieties.
Writing them down in detail canactually help you process those
intense emotions.
Really, yeah, it creates adistance.
Yeah, it lets you look at thedream more objectively instead
of being overwhelmed by thefeeling.
(05:06):
It's like you're taking thoseinner turmoils and putting them
out there on paper.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
So getting into that
habit of journaling is key, and
it seems like having the rightjournal can make a big
difference.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
It really can.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And I know Lestallion
they put a lot of emphasis on
the features of their journalnotebook for dreams.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, they do.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So why are things
like paper quality and
organization so important forthis kind of personal reflection
?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Well, let's look at
the practical side.
Lestallion uses this thick 120GSM wood-free ivory paper.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
It's a really
substantial surface.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You can write in
detail without the ink bleeding
through.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
That's important, it
is.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Especially when
you're half asleep scribbling
down notes.
Plus that ivory tone, it'seasier on your eyes.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Makes sense.
I wouldn't want to be staringat a bright white page first
thing in the morning.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
No, I wouldn't want
to be staring at a bright white
page first thing in the morning.
No, it's not exactly soothing.
Yeah, and then there are thingslike the numbered pages and the
built-in table of contents.
Yay it might seem small, butfor dream journaling they're
super helpful for stayingorganized.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Imagine trying to
track a recurring symbol or how
a certain theme evolves overtime without a way to easily go
back to past entries.
The table of contents it letsyou organize chronologically so
you can easily find and reviewthose older dreams.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So it's like creating
your own dream database,
exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And beyond the
structure, the physical journal
itself, it contributes to theexperience too.
Lestallion uses a soft fauxleather cover.
I've seen those.
It's durable, so it protectsyour dreams over time and it
also adds a nice tactile element.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It makes picking up
and holding your journal feel
more intentional, like a ritual.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Like a sacred space
for your dreams.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah.
And the size, the A5 size, yeah, it's a good balance.
It gives you plenty of space towrite, but it's still compact
enough to keep on yournightstand or even take with you
.
Right, even the dashed linesand the spacing, they're all
designed to help you recordthose sometimes fragmented dream
details clearly and in anorganized way.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It's like all those
features.
They're working together tohelp you really connect with
your dream world.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Exactly.
And you know, it's not justabout the features themselves,
it's about how they translateinto real life benefits.
I'm reminded of a friend.
She started using a Lestallionjournal because she kept having
this recurring dream about beinglost in a maze.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And she'd wake up
feeling all disoriented and
anxious.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
That sounds
unsettling.
It was yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And for her the
numbered pages in the journal.
They became super important.
She started tracking how oftenthis maze dream would pop up.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And because she was
writing down the details, the
layout of the maze, that feelingof panic, she eventually
realized that the maze, it, wasa metaphor for how she was
feeling lost in her career.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
It was a metaphor for
how she was feeling lost in her
career, the act of flippingback through those numbered
pages.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And seeing those
entries.
Yeah, it helped her make thatconnection.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Powerful stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, the cover of
the journal.
It became almost like a symbolof her commitment to
understanding this recurringanxiety.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
That's amazing.
I've had a similar experiencewith recurring symbols.
I was going through a phasewhere I kept dreaming about
water.
Sometimes it was calm andpeaceful, other times it was
rough and stormy.
And I was using this notebookwith really smooth paper, like
what the stallion uses, and Ifound that the smooth writing it
actually made me want to writemore, even the smallest details.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
It makes a difference
, doesn't it?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
It does.
And then, looking back throughthe table of contents, I could
see how the water in my dreamsit mirrored my stress levels in
real life.
Calm water meant things weregood.
Stormy water meant I wasstressed.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It's incredible how
our subconscious minds work.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
It is.
It was like the act of writingin the journal.
It became a daily check-in withmyself.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
It's like the journal
becomes a partner in this
journey of self-discovery.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It really does.
And you know I have this cousin, david.
Yeah, he went through a timewhere he kept dreaming about
locked doors.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Locked doors.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, and in his
waking life he felt like
opportunities were just out ofreach.
I see he started journaling andhe was using this notebook with
really clear lines, whichhelped him to separate the
different parts of his dreams,which helped him to separate the
different parts of his dreams,and he even started using the
back pocket of the journal tojot down interpretations or
feelings that came to him laterin the day.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
And by tracking that
locked door motif he realized he
was holding himself back fromtrying new things because he was
afraid of failing.
But seeing that pattern laidout in his journal, it gave him
the courage to start takingthose first steps to unlock
those perceived barriers.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
So these features,
they're not just about
aesthetics, they're activelyhelping us engage with our
dreams and, hopefully, leadingto those moments of clarity.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Absolutely so.
How do we make dream journalingmore effective, especially when
we're using a journal that'sdesigned for it?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, what are your
tips?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Well, the classic
advice and it's what Lisbalian
recommends too is keep yourjournal right by your bed.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
You want to be able
to reach for it the second you
wake up, before you even openyour eyes, before the day starts
to creep in smooth paper.
It makes writing feel less likea chore.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
So you're more likely
to do it right then and there.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Just jot down
whatever you remember, no matter
how weird or confusing it seems.
Don't overthink it.
Just capture the raw stuff.
Pay attention to the sensorydetails who was there?
Where were you?
What were the strongestemotions you felt?
The dashed lines in thelistallion journal can help you
keep those initial messy notesorganized.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
And then, every once
in a while, try, using prompts,
ask yourself what was thebiggest feeling in the dream,
what image was the most vivid,what did I do in the dream?
And, most importantly, maketime to go back and look at your
past entries.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
That's where the
numbered pages and the table of
contents come in handy.
Look for those recurringpatterns, those symbols, those
emotional themes we've beentalking about.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
So, by consistently
doing this, by paying attention
to our dreams, what kind ofimpact does it have on us, on
our personal growth?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Huge.
We've talked about how dreamjournaling helps us understand
our subconscious minds.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
But it also builds
emotional resilience.
By facing those difficultemotions in the safe space of
our dreams and then reflectingon them, we become better
equipped to deal with thoseemotions in our waking lives.
It also makes us more mindful,more aware of our inner world.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Dreams often bring to
light those unresolved
conflicts or unspoken desiresthat we might be pushing down.
That's so true so it's anopportunity to look inward and
potentially heal.
Over time, this practice canlead to a clearer mind, enhanced
creativity because we'retapping into that abstract world
(11:46):
of dreams and ultimately ithelps us become more self-aware
wow, so it's really aboutforging a deeper connection with
ourselves exactly.
It's a fascinating journey thishas been eye-opening.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I think we can all
agree that dream journaling it's
not just a random pastime, it'sa legitimate path to
self-discovery and personalgrowth.
Absolutely, and using a journalthat's designed for it, like
the Journal Notebook for Dreamsfrom Lestallion, it can make a
huge difference.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
It can.
It makes the whole process ofrecording, organizing and
reflecting on our dreams notonly easier, but also more
meaningful and effective.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
So here's something
to think about.
If your dreams are a windowinto your subconscious, what
hidden stories, what valuableinsights might you be missing
out on by not giving thosedreams a place to be heard?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
That's a great
question.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Maybe exploring a
tool that's made for this very
purpose could be the key tounlocking those fleeting
nighttime visions and turningthem into lasting daytime
understanding.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Thanks for joining us
for this deep dive into dream
journaling.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
My pleasure.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Until next time.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Sweet dreams, sweet
dreams.