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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right.
So today we're going deep onsomething I think a lot of folks
have probably tried at somepoint journaling.
But we're not just talkingabout, like you know, jotting
down what you had for lunch.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is about using
journaling to heal and grow as a
person.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
And we've been
looking at some really
interesting stuff about, like,how this actually works.
Yeah, actually works, yeah, andI'm hoping by the end of this
we'll all have a better sense oflike what are the real benefits
?
You know why it can be tough tostick with sometimes right and
how, like the right tools, canactually make a huge difference.
(00:37):
I think that's key having theright tools yeah, so when we
talk about journaling forhealing, one thing that really
jumps out from the research ishow your journal can become like
this.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Totally safe space,
like no judgment, you know, to
just like process all thosetough emotions.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
It's so important to
have that safe space.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
And work through past
experiences, even the really
heavy stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, and it's not
just about having a space, it's
like actively using that spaceto make sense of things.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Okay, so how does
that work?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Well, think of it
like you're creating a container
for your emotions.
You know, sometimes when wehave these really intense
feelings or like something bighappens, it can just feel
completely overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, yeah and
unresolved.
Yeah, you just push it down.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Right, and journaling
is a way to like pull those
things out Okay, you know, putthem on paper, and when you do
that, it's like you get somedistance from them.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
You can start to see
them more objectively.
I see what you're saying, soinstead of it just being like
hey, Exactly.
This swirling mess in your head.
It's like, okay, now it's.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
You can look at it.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It's out there, I can
look at it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
You can analyze it.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, what do you
think is like the biggest
benefit of that, like gettingthat clearer view?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I think for me, it's
how journaling can reveal
patterns in your emotions.
Oh, interesting you might noteven realize, like how you
always react a certain way incertain situations, right until
you see it written down over andover like oh, every time my
boss does that, they getstressed out and then you can
start to ask yourself like why,why is that happening?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
yeah, yeah, that's so
true.
I've noticed that in my ownjournaling too, and and the
research we looked at it alsotalked about how putting those
emotional wounds into words,like actually writing about them
, can make them less intense.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It's almost like by
acknowledging them, you take
away some of their power.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
It's like you're
facing it head on instead of
letting it fester.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And that's a huge
part of healing right, yeah,
totally.
Going from feeling overwhelmedto understanding and then
eventually moving forward.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
That makes sense.
Feeling overwhelmed tounderstanding and then
eventually moving forward, thatmakes sense, and it makes me
think about you, know howimportant it is to have a
journal that actually feels likea safe space, like physically
feels inviting.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
And that's something
I really like about La Stallion
journals they use this soft fauxleather cover.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, so nice to
touch it.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
It's almost like it's
encouraging you to pick it up.
It's tactile, yeah, and dealwith those feelings, even the
tough ones.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It's like a little
ritual.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
It is.
It's like creating this littleritual around.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And that can make all
the difference when it comes to
consistency.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Absolutely, because
we all know life gets in the way
sometimes and you need thatlittle something to be like okay
, come on.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Sit down Even five
minutes.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
You know I'm thinking
about my cousin Emily.
She went through a rough patchafter she lost her job.
And she was carrying around alot of shame and uncertainty and
she's always been a veryprivate person.
But her career counselorsuggested she try journaling and
at first she was like, hey, Idon't know about this.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
It can feel
self-indulgent.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, like is this
really going to help?
But she stuck with it and shetold me later that it was
actually really therapeutic forher.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Just having that
private space to be totally
honest with herself, withoutanybody judging her or giving
her advice she didn't want andthrough that she was able like
untangle all those anxieties.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And eventually start
thinking about.
You know what she wanted to donext.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
That's a great
example of how powerful
journaling can be.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
It is.
It's like you said before it'sabout processing those emotions.
Giving them a voice, givingthem a voice, yeah, and
sometimes writing it down iseasier than saying it out loud,
even to yourself.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Sometimes you can be
more honest with yourself on
paper.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, that's a good
point.
Yeah, so we've talked abouthealing, but what about growth,
like how does journaling helpyou grow as a person?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Well, one thing our
sources highlighted is the power
of using prompts Prompts, okyeah, like specific questions to
guide your thinking.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Oh, I see, so it's
not just like free writing
whatever comes to mind.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Sometimes a little
direction can be really helpful.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
OK, so like what kind
of prompts are we talking about
?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, things like
what's one thing you learned
about yourself today, or what'sone small step you can take
towards a long-term goal.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
You know things that
make you really think about
where you are and where you wantto be.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And how do those
prompts actually translate into
like real personal growth?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Well, I think, by
engaging with those questions,
you're basically shifting fromjust acknowledging where you are
to actively envisioning who youwant to be.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Oh, I see.
So it's like you're setting anintention.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Exactly and then
figuring out those concrete
steps to get there.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
And that's where
things like numbered pages and a
table of contents.
Oh yeah, Like in the Lestallionjournals.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Come in handy.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Because you can go
back and see how your answers
have changed over time.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Right Like.
Am I still working towards thesame goals have?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
my priorities shifted
.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You can track your
own evolution.
Yeah, am I still working?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
towards the same
goals.
Have my priorities shifted?
You can?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
track your own
evolution?
Yeah, and I think that's reallypowerful to be able to look
back and see how you've changed.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It turns your journal
into a tool for self-assessment
.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
It does.
Yeah, it's not just a diaryanymore, it's like this roadmap
of your personal journey.
Then it can be incrediblymotivating.
Yeah, it reminds me of myfriend David.
He was feeling really lost.
Oh, yeah, for a while just kindof adrift, and he started using
a guided journal with promptsthat focused on like his values
and what he really wanted out oflife.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And he wasn't always
great about writing every day.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, life happens.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
But because his
journal had a table of content
Right, he could easily go backand find his answers to those
earlier prompts.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
That's so helpful.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And over time he
started to see these patterns in
his thinking and it gave himthe clarity to make some big
changes Wow In his life.
That ultimately made him a lothappier.
That's awesome.
It was amazing to see thattransformation.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
It's a great example
of how guided reflection can
lead to action.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It is, and it's not
always about these huge
epiphanies.
Sometimes it's just about smallsteps, yeah, and being
consistent.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Consistency is key.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Now let's be real for
a second Starting and keeping
up a journaling habit can betough, it can be.
What are some of the biggestroadblocks people hit?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well, I think
inconsistency is a big one.
Yeah, life gets busy, it does,and it's easy to let journaling
slide.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Right.
Other things seem more urgent.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Exactly.
And then there's the fear ofvulnerability.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
You know, actually
being honest with yourself on
paper can be scary.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Like what if somebody
reads it?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Or what if you don't
even like what you see?
Yeah, it's like you're reallyexposed.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And then there's a
simple question of like what do
I even write?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Oh yeah, the blank
page.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Staring at that blank
page can be paralyzing.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It can be so
intimidating.
So, uh, any advice on how todeal with those challenges?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Wait, I think
starting small is really
important.
Okay, like, don't try to writefor an hour every day right off
the bat, right, just commit tofive or ten minutes, yeah, and
make it a daily habit.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Like build that
muscle Exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, and for the
vulnerability piece, mm-hmm,
remember that your journal isfor your eyes only.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Nobody else has to
see it.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
It's your safe space.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
It's your space to be
completely yourself.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
And mess up.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
And mess up.
Yeah, yeah, and if you'restruggling with what to write,
try using prompts.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Like write about what
you're grateful for.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Oh yeah, that's a
good one.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Or just free write
whatever pops into your head.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Just let it flow.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, don't overthink
it, don't edit, and you know,
sometimes even the way a journalis designed can make a
difference.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Oh, interesting, okay
Like with the Lestallion
journals.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
They use these dashed
lines on the pages.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, those are nice.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
And the lines are a
little wider apart.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
It's subtle, but it
makes the page feel less
intimidating.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Right, it's not so
stark.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Exactly, and
especially if you're new to
journaling or you're feelinghesitant.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
That can make it a
lot easier to just start writing
.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, it's like it's
inviting you to put pen to paper
.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, I know.
For me personally, when I firsttried journaling, I was using
this notebook with these superthin lines all crammed together.
I know they kind of it feltlike I was back in school taking
a test.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
It makes you feel
like you have to be perfect.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Exactly, and I ended
up just giving up because it was
such a chore.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
But then I switched
to a notebook that had more of a
relaxed layout, kind of likethose dashed lines, and it made
a world of difference.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It just feels more
freeing.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
It felt like I could
actually breathe.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
And be myself on the
page.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
So let's talk more
about those emotional benefits
of journaling for healing.
You know we talked aboutprocessing emotions, but the
sources really emphasize howimportant it is to actually
articulate those feelings.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, like put them
into words.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, because
sometimes, when you're feeling
overwhelmed, like you can't evenmake sense of what you're
experiencing, it's just a jumbleof feelings.
Exactly, but writing them downforces you to make them concrete
.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, you're giving
them a shape.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And that can be
really cathartic.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It could be like a
release.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, like you're
getting it out of your system.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
And it can also help
you to understand your emotions
better.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Right, because now
you're not just feeling them,
you're analyzing them.
You're analyzing them.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
You're looking at
them from a different
perspective.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And that can lead to
more self-awareness.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Absolutely.
And again, I think the physicaljournal itself can play a role
here.
Oh, interesting, like withLestallion, they talk a lot
about the quality of their paper.
It's this thick ivory paper andthey say it's really smooth to
write on.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, even with
fountain pens.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Even with fountain
pens.
Yeah, and I know that mightseem like a small detail, right,
but when you're trying to digdeep into your emotions, the
last thing you want is to bedistracted by ink bleeding
through the page or the penscratching.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It takes you out of
the moment it does it really
does Right.
And scratching it takes you outof the moment.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
It does, it really
does Right, and you want to be
fully present with thosefeelings.
You want to be able to focus onwhat you're feeling and what it
means Exactly.
Yeah, so let's shift gears alittle bit and talk about how
journaling contributes topersonal growth over time.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, this is a long
game.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
It is.
It's not a quick fix.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
No.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
So how does that work
?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Well, I think regular
journaling helps to cultivate a
growth mindset.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Because you're
constantly reflecting on
challenges, successes, lessonslearned.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And that strengthens
your belief in your ability to
learn and grow.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Like you see proof of
your own progress.
Exactly yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And it also builds
resilience.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
When you look back
and see how you've handled tough
situations in the past, itgives you confidence to face
future challenges.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Like you know, you've
got this.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Right and,
importantly, it helps with
decision making.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Because journaling
allows you to understand your
values and priorities better.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Oh, that makes sense.
So you can make choices thatare aligned with who you really
are.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You're not just
reacting to things, you're
making conscious decisions.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
It's like you're
creating this archive of your
personal journey, and I lovethat Lestallion gives you so
much space to do that.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, you have 211
pages 211 pages.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
That's a lot of space
for reflection, and they even
have that little pocket in theback.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Oh yeah, where you
can keep mementos, it's a nice
touch it is.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
It's like they're
encouraging you to make this
journal a part of your.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, to really
personalize.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, to personalize
it and and to document your
growth.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
It becomes a
reflection of you.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
OK, so we've talked
about all these benefits, but
let's bring it all together nowand focus on why a Lestallion
journal in particular, with allits specific features, is so
good for this kind of healingand growth journaling.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well, what's
interesting is how the design
choices really supporteverything we've been talking
about.
Like, the thick paper preventsink bleed, which is especially
helpful when you're dealing withintense emotions.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Right, you don't want
your words to get all smudged
and messy, exactly, and the softcover makes it feel really
inviting.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, like you want
to hold it.
You don't want your words toget all smudged and messy,
exactly, and the soft covermakes it feel really inviting.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, like you want
to hold it.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
You want to spend
time with it.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
And all those pages
with the dashed lines give you
plenty of space to write withoutbeing overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Right, it's the
perfect balance.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, and I love that
little pocket in the back.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
It's like a little
treasure chest.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
For your journey,
your journey.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
yeah, and then the
numbered pages and table of
contents.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So important for
staying organized.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And being able to
track your progress.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
And those wider lines
make it so much more
comfortable to write.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
They really thought
of everything.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
It seems like they
did.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
It's like they
designed this journal
specifically for this purpose.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, it's more than
just a pretty notebook.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
It's a tool.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
It's a tool For
self-discovery.
So, to wrap things up, what areyour top tips for making
journaling a really effectivepractice.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well, first find a
dedicated time and space.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Even if it's just for
a few minutes each day.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, make it a
ritual.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
And don't be afraid
to use prompts, especially when
you're feeling stuck.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
There are tons of
great resources out there.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
And remember,
consistency is key.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
More important than
writing a novel every day.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Exactly.
Just show up and revisit yourpast entries.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Oh yeah, that's a
good one.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
That's where you'll
really see your growth.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
And be kind to
yourself.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Your journal is a
judgment-free zone.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
So, as we come to the
end of our deep dive today,
it's clear that journaling,especially with a well-designed
tool like a listallion, is somuch more than just keeping a
diary.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It's a powerful
practice.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
It's a way to heal To
grow.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
To understand
yourself.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Understand yourself
better.
Yeah, and it gives you thatsafe space to process your
emotions.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
In a structure for
self-reflection.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
And it helps you
overcome those roadblocks that
can keep you from even starting.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
It's all about using
the power of words.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
To heal and grow.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
To shape your own
story.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
So here's a final
thought for you to ponder Don't
just think about what you wantto achieve.
Think about who you want tobecome.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Through this process
of journaling Powerful.
What kind of person will you bea year from now?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
What will your
journal say about you?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
That's a great
question to leave people with.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Thanks for joining us
on this deep dive.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
My pleasure.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Until next time.
See ya Keep exploring, bye.