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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Deep
Dive.
Today we're jumping intosomething many of you well
probably know quite well the jobsearch, that whole landscape of
sending out applications,trying to network, getting
interviews.
It can all feel prettyoverwhelming fast if you don't
have a system.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh, absolutely.
It's not just the mental game,is it?
The sheer amount of stuff totrack?
It's a lot Keeping tabs onevery application, every person
you talk to, the follow-ups.
You really need a method.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Exactly so.
Our mission today really is todig into how getting structured
can actually be a huge help.
We want to look at ways to findsome clarity, maybe boost that
confidence a bit, and we'll drawon what we know about good
tools for staying organized,something we talk about now and
then.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And for those who
follow us, you'll know we have a
soft spot for a good notebookand thinking about the job
search, well, the ListalianJournal often comes up yes.
I know the ones.
They're just really well puttogether, kind of designed with
this specific task in mind.
You know features like thenumbered pages, that built-in
table of contents super usefulfor planning things out.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
And that good paper
quality.
The 120 GSM means it holds upto daily scribbling.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Right, it makes using
it feel better.
But OK, let's back up a sec.
What are the big hurdles peopleactually face when they're job
hunting?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, good starting
point, Because knowing the
problems really shows whystructure helps.
Top of the list, I'd say, isjust plain disorganization.
I mean you're jugglingapplications for different roles
, different companies.
It's so easy to forget whereyou applied, who you need to
follow up with, what stageyou're at.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
It's like spinning
plates, isn't it?
Something's bound to drop.
I remember talking to someonewho was trying to switch careers
into tech, I think and theyjust felt completely lost,
always wondering did I follow upthere, that mix of the details
for that company?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
That feeling is so,
so common.
And right alongside thatdisorganization comes dealing
with rejection.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
The job search
inevitably involves hearing no a
lot, and that just chips awayat your motivation, your belief
in yourself.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Sometimes, it's so
hard to keep your energy up when
you get those setbacks, whichleads right into the next
challenge, doesn't it?
Consistency?
Exactly Just keeping up themomentum, making sure you're
doing something productive everyday, or most days, even when
you really don't feel like it.
That's tough.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It really is.
The search doesn't stop justbecause you're having an off day
and don't feel like it.
That's tough, it really is.
The search doesn't stop justbecause you're having an off day
.
And then, of course, there'snetworking.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Super important.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
We all know that
Crucial, but keeping track of
who you met, what you talkedabout, potential leads, that can
become another stressful taskif you're not well managing it
properly.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Okay so we've got
these common struggles
Disorganization, rejection,staying consistent, managing
networking.
How does a dedicated journalactually help tackle these?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Well, think of it
like creating a central hub,
your job search command center.
Maybe I like that.
Instead of notes scatteredeverywhere, digital files,
buried emails, things you'retrying to remember, the journal
gives you one physical place, astructured place to put down all
the key info and, importantly,your thoughts and reflections
too.
Just the act of writing thingsdown it can really clarify what
(03:10):
you're thinking.
It gives you a bit of controlback in a process that often
feels like you have very little.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Which brings us right
back to why a journal like
Lestallion's is well kind ofperfect for this.
Those features we mentionedaren't just nice to haves.
They directly address theseissues.
Take the numbered pages and thetable of contents Seriously
useful.
You can easily block outsections, right.
Maybe one section per company,one for networking contacts,
another for interview notes.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And then find what
you need fast using the contents
page.
It stops being just a notebookand becomes like your personal
job search database yeah, itmakes the whole thing much more
strategic.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
You spend less time
hunting for information and more
time actually doing the thingsyou need to do and don't
underestimate the paper quality.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
We talked about that
120 gsm in the listalian.
When writing feels good, whenyour pen glides nicely and the
ink doesn't bleed through,you're just more likely to want
to use it every day, to beconsistent.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
True, and the feel of
it too, the soft cover or hard
cover options, that faux leather.
It feels professional, doesn'tit?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
It does.
It can subtly reinforce thatyou're taking this seriously,
that it's a focused effort.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
It helps shift your
mindset maybe from just
reactively applying this stuffto proactively managing a career
campaign.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
That's a great way to
put it, and the journal is key
to building that campaignstrategy.
You can set up a proper jobapplication tracker.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Right List the
company, the role, the date you
applied, what the next step is.
Did you follow up?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Exactly.
No more guessing games.
Nothing falls through thecracks.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
And for networking.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Same idea, a
dedicated section.
Who did you connect with when?
What did you discuss?
Yeah, any next steps you agreedon it makes nurturing those
contacts so much easier, muchmore intentional.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
It's not just
tracking the logistics, though,
is it?
It's also for, like, the biggerpicture stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Absolutely.
Use it to really define yourcareer goals.
What do you actually want inyour next job?
What salary range are youaiming for?
What kind of company culturefits you?
Writing that down brings focus.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And then when you see
a job ad you like.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
You can use the
journal to break it down.
What skills do they really want?
How do you match up?
You can even brainstorm rightthere.
What achievements should youhighlight for this specific role
?
Tailoring your application.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And interviews.
That's a big one.
Using it to prep.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Oh, hugely important.
You can write out answers tothose common questions using it
to prep.
Oh, hugely important.
You can write out answers tothose common questions.
Do your company research notesand this is key jot down
reflections right after aninterview.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
That went well.
What maybe didn't?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
What question tripped
you up?
What did you learn?
It turns every interview into alearning opportunity.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
And again, those
listallion features, the
numbered pages, the table ofcontents.
They shine here, don't they?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
For sure, say you
have a second interview, you can
quickly flip back to your notesfrom the first one or find
those answers you prepped.
It's about building thisknowledge base, about your own
search.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
It creates that
central hub we talked about.
You know, it reminds me of mycousin actually.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
He was making a
really tough career change.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
A year or so back and
he was just drowning in emails,
different versions of hisresume.
Couldn't remember who he'dspoken to when, totally
overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Sounds familiar.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So he got himself a
list of Italian journals,
started simple, just trackingapplications, and he told me
later, just having that oneplace to see everything laid out
it made a massive difference.
He could see his progress orlack thereof, uh-huh.
And apparently he found anapplication in his tracker that
he totally forgotten about,realized he hadn't followed up,
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did so and it actually led to aninterview, just from being
organized that's brilliant.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
It perfectly shows
how a bit of structure can lead
to real opportunities.
And it's not just tracking, isit?
The journal helps build goodhabits.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Like what.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, like setting
daily intentions.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
You could start your
day by writing down okay, today
I'll apply for three jobs, reachout to two contacts, then end
of the day.
Quick reflection did I do it?
What got in the way?
What worked?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That daily reflection
loop yeah, I can see that being
powerful and for interview prep, actually writing out answers.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Way more effective
than just thinking about them.
It forces you to articulatethings clearly, spots the gaps
in your thinking and writingdown notes after the interview,
like we said, cements thelearning.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
And the networking
log.
Keeping track of thoseconversations and follow-ups
makes you seem much more on theball.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Definitely.
And one more thing I think isreally valuable Using a section
just to list your strengths,your achievements.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Ah, the confidence
booster section.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Exactly Because job
searching can knock your
confidence.
Having a place to remindyourself of what you have
achieved, what you are good at,that's incredibly grounding.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
And those listalien
pages, whether they're lined or
dashed or whatever, they're justgood for this kind of
structured writing, aren't they?
They make it easy to createthese different sections and
lists.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
They really do Design
for purpose.
You know, I remember a formercolleague.
She was shifting industries andwas really, really stressed
about how to talk about herskills.
She started using a journal Ithink it might have been a
listalian too, actually andshe'd spend time just writing
about her past projects, pullingout the transferable skills.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Sort of processing it
on paper.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Exactly and she said
that process.
Just writing it all down helpedher see the story of her career
so much more clearly.
It gave her a huge confidenceboost for interviews because she
finally knew how to frame herexperience.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
These stories really
drive it home, don't they?
A job search journal isn't justa logbook.
It's way more than that.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So much more.
It's a tool for self-reflection, for building confidence, for
actually planning strategically.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
And using a quality
journal like the Lestallion, it
kind of elevates the whole thing.
It signals to yourself okay,I'm taking this seriously, this
is my dedicated space for thisimportant work.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Well said, it's an
investment in the process.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
So, if we boil it all
down, having a dedicated
journal, especially one like theLestallion that's designed with
features for this task, it canbe a genuine game changer.
It's not just about keepingtrack of dates and names.
It's about feeling more incontrol, staying motivated when
things get tough and reallyapproaching your search with
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more clarity, more strategy.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Right those features
numbered pages, good paper, the
table of contents they all worktogether to make it an effective
companion for the journey.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
So maybe here's the
final thought to leave you with
how could intentionallydocumenting your job search
actually change the experiencefor you?
Could taking the time to writedown your progress, your plans,
your reflections, could thatmake it feel less like chaos?
Could it maybe even help youspot patterns or uncover
insights about yourself or themarket that you just wouldn't
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see otherwise?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It's an interesting
question.
That simple act of writing,maybe it's the key to unlocking
that next step.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Something to think
about.
It's definitely worth exploring.