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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, so today we're
going to dive into something I
think a lot of people are reallyinterested in.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Mindfulness
meditation.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
And you know everyone
kind of wants to be more
mindful.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
You know, get that
mental clarity and emotional
balance.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
But actually you know
, doing it every day and
actually getting to that point,right, that's a whole other.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well, that's the hard
part.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
That's the hard part.
That's the hard part.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, like we all
want the results.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
But the practice
itself, yeah, it can be tricky,
it can be really tricky.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
So one of the things
that we're looking at is
actually how using a journal canreally help with that
mindfulness practice.
Oh interesting, and so it'slike this physical thing that
you're doing.
You have your thoughts andfeelings and then you're putting
them down on paper.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, so you're
taking this abstract thing and
you're making it concrete.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Which can be really
helpful.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
And then you can go
back and look at it, and we've
been looking at some reallygreat notebooks that are
specifically designed formindfulness.
Okay, cool, like theseLestallion journals.
I've heard of those.
They have this amazing paper.
It's like 120 GSM, so it'sreally thick.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Oh, wow, so the ink
won't bleed through.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Exactly, and it just
feels so smooth when you write
on it.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Oh, that's nice.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
It's like a really
peaceful experience.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I can see how that
would help with mindfulness.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, and they've
thought of everything like
numbered pages, a nice soft fauxleather cover it's like they've
really considered the wholeexperience yeah, so you feel
really grounded and intentionalwhen you're using it that makes
sense we're going to talk aboutall that, how these little
details can actually make a bigdifference I'm curious to hear
more about that yeah, me too.
Actually reminds me of mycousin mark okay.
(01:39):
He always used to say his mindwas like a web browser with like
30 tabs open.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Oh, I know that
feeling.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Right, especially
when he tried to meditate.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, that makes it
hard to focus.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, he had a really
tough time until he started
using a journal.
Yeah, and it really helped himfocus.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Huh, that's
interesting.
How did that work for him?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Well, it's like
taking all those thoughts
swirling around in your head.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
And putting them down
on paper.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Right, so they're not
just bouncing around in there.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Exactly, and then you
can kind of look at them
objectively.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's almost like
you're looking at someone else's
thoughts.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
That's such a good
point.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And that can help you
understand yourself better.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It's like you're
getting some distance from your
own thoughts.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, cognitive
distance I like that, like that.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It's a real thing so
you're not so caught up in them.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
And that can be
really helpful for
self-awareness.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Absolutely, and you
know, there's also research that
shows that writing about yourexperiences can actually reduce
stress.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Oh really.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah.
It's like you're releasing allthat pent-up energy onto the
page.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Like a pressure valve
.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And it's not just
about getting stuff off your
chest.
It's also about tracking yourprogress over time.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Right, like seeing
how you're growing and changing.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Exactly and you can
start to see patterns in your
thoughts and behaviors.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And that can be
really insightful.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
And it can help you
figure out what's working and
what's not.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Absolutely, and this
is where those Listallion
journals come in again.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Right, with all those
pages, all those pages of that
beautiful paper.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, it gives you so
much space to really explore
your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
It really encourages
you to dive deep.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
And you know one of
the biggest challenges with
mindfulness.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Is actually sticking
with it.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Consistency right.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, it's easy to
get distracted or discouraged.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, or to feel like
you're not making any progress.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Exactly, and then you
lose motivation.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And you don't really
know what to do with the
insights you do have.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Right Like how do you
organize them, how do you make
sense of them?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, that's where a
journal can be so helpful.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Because just the act
of knowing you're going to write
about your experience.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Makes you more
accountable.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
It gives you a reason
to show up.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Exactly, and it helps
you build that consistent
routine.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's like numbered
pages and a table of contents.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Oh, that's so helpful
.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, it makes it so
much easier to organize your
thoughts.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
And to find things
later Exactly, and the physical
act of writing itself can be sogrounding.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh yeah, it brings
you into the present moment.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It's like a
meditation in itself.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
And you can use it to
deal with those distractions
that inevitably come up.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Like, instead of
getting frustrated by them, you
can just acknowledge them andthen explore them later in your
journal.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
It's like turning
those distractions into
opportunities for growth.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
That's a great way to
look at it.
You know, this reminds me of myfriend Amelia.
She's a software engineer andshe's incredibly talented.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
But she's also super
stressed all the time.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I can imagine.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, constantly
juggling deadlines and projects.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
That sounds tough.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It is, and she really
wanted to try mindfulness.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
But she just couldn't
seem to make it stick.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It's hard to find the
time and the mental space.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Right, it's like one
more thing on her to-do list.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, so she decided
to try combining meditation with
journaling.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Oh, interesting.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
And she got herself a
Lestallion notebook.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Good choice yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And at first she just
wrote down a few sentences
about her meditation.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
You know any thoughts
that came up Like a stream of
consciousness.
Yeah, kind of.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
But then she started
incorporating gratitude prompts.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Oh, that's a good
idea.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, like what am I
grateful for today?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Right prompts oh,
that's a good idea.
Yeah, like, what am I gratefulfor today?
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
It helps you focus on
the positive even when things
are tough, and she also startedwriting down her intentions
before each meditation.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Oh, that's
interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, like maybe she
wanted to focus on her breath or
just observe her thoughtswithout judgment.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So it's like setting
a goal for your meditation.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Exactly, and she
found that writing it down made
it feel more real.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Like you're making a
commitment.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, and as she kept
journaling, she started to
notice patterns.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Oh, like what kind of
patterns?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Like what times of
day she was most distracted oh
interesting.
Or what kind of thoughts keptcoming up.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So she was gaining
self-awareness.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, and that was
really valuable for her, I bet,
and after a few months shereally started to feel a
difference.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
That's great to hear.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, she felt more
resilient, more focused at work
and just more emotionallybalanced overall.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Wow, it's amazing
yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
And her listallion
notebook became, like this,
record of her progress.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
It's like a tangible
representation of her growth.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That's really cool.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
So you know, if
you're listening, you're
thinking about trying this.
Yeah, what are some practicaltips for getting started?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Well, first of all,
it's important to set aside a
specific time for journaling.
Okay, whether it's right afteryour meditation or at the end of
the day.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
To kind of process
everything.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And prompts can be
really helpful.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Oh yeah, Especially
if you're not sure what to write
about.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, like, what am I
grateful for today?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
or what brought me
joy today.
Those are good ones.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
And you can also
write about your intentions for
your mindfulness practice.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Right, like.
What do you want to achieve?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Exactly, and it can
be helpful to reflect on
different meditation techniques.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, and figure out
which ones work best for you.
And why they work Exactly workbest for you and why they work
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
And don't forget to
go back and review your past
entries.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Ah, that's so
important.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
It's so easy to
forget how far you've come.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It's like looking
back on your journey.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Exactly, and it can
give you a lot of motivation.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And you know those
Listellian journals with their
wide lines and dotted pages.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah.
They really help you stayorganized.
It makes it so much moreenjoyable to write.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
And they really help
you stay organized.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
It makes it so much
more enjoyable to write and less
overwhelming it's like they'vethought of everything.
They really have you know, whenI first started journaling, my
handwriting was all over theplace.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, I know that
feeling.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
And it just felt
messy and discouraging.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
But having a
structured layout can make a big
difference.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
It really can.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So what about the
bigger picture?
Okay, how does this kind ofjournaling actually impact our
mental health and personalgrowth.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, as we've talked
about, it's a great way to
manage stress.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Right, because it
helps you to respond to
challenges in a more thoughtfulway.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Instead of just
reacting emotionally, and it
also builds resilience.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Because you're
processing your difficulties in
a safe space.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
And learning how to
cope with them.
It helps you become more,become more self-aware
absolutely by paying attentionto your thoughts and feelings
you start to understand yourselfbetter and you can identify
your triggers and your patternsand of course, there's the power
of gratitude oh yeah, focusingon the good things in your life
it can really change yourperspective and boost your
happiness and you know even thephysical act of using a nice
(08:09):
journal yeah, a little stallionjournal with its soft cover.
It just feels good.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It can make
journaling feel like a more
mindful and intentional ritual.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's like you're
creating a special space for
yourself.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So let's talk about
those Lestallion journal
features again.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Because they really
are designed for mindfulness.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, that 120 GSM
paper is amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
It's so smooth and
calming to write on it.
120 GSM paper is amazing, it'sso smooth and calming to write
on.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
It makes you want to
keep writing.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
And those number
pages and the table of contents.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
They make it so easy
to stay organized.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
And to track your
progress over time.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, it's really
helpful.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And the size is
perfect.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Not too big, not too
small.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Easy to take with you
.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
And the cover feels
so nice.
It's like a little luxury.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
It makes you want to
pick it up and use it and with
211 pages you've got plenty ofspace to write.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You don't have to
worry about running out of room.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And those wide lines
and dotted pages.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
They just make
everything look so neat and tidy
.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
It makes journaling
feel less overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Especially if you
like things to be organized.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
So the takeaway here
is that journaling can be a
really powerful tool.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, especially when
it's combined with mindfulness
meditation.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
It can help you to
grow as a person, become more
self-aware and feel moreemotionally balanced.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And it can help you
to live a more intentional and
purposeful life.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And if you're looking
for a journal that can really
support your mindfulnesspractice those Lestallion
journals are definitely worthchecking out.
They're beautifully designedand they have all the features
you need, so think about it yeah.
How could journaling for just afew minutes each day change
your experience of the presentmoment?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That's a good
question.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
And help you to
understand yourself better.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
It's definitely worth
exploring.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
It is.