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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Have you ever thought
about, like, how we actually
nurture those really importantrelationships in our lives?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
They're the ones that
really matter.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's something that
you have to really put effort
into.
Yeah, it doesn't just happenautomatically, does it?
Yeah, not at all.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's like you need
that conscious effort to kind of
keep those connections strongand thriving.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I think reflection is
a huge part of it too.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Reflection yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Taking the time to
think about the relationship.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Exactly, reflection
is a huge part of it too.
Reflection, yeah, taking thetime to think about the
relationship.
Exactly, and you know, and withour busy lives, it's so easy to
let that slip, isn't?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
it, it really is.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
To push it aside.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
So in this deep dive
we're going to look at a really
interesting approach, I think,to kind of help us with that
reflection piece.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
And that is using a
journal specifically dedicated
to your relationships.
Yeah so we're going to explorehow this whole practice can
actually help us deepen ourconnections.
Yeah, you know, help us be moregrateful, I think, in our
relationships and just betternavigate all those little bumps
in the road when it comes tocommunication.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Because, let's face
it, there are always going to be
some bumps, always, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So we've been looking
at some material from
Lestallion and their journalnotebook for relationships.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
And you know they
make these really beautifully
designed notebooks.
You do and they're reallytailored for this kind of
reflection.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I love that they use
that thick ivory paper.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yes, 120 GSM.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yes, and it just
feels so nice to write on.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It does, it feels
really special and the cover is
so soft.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, it's a really
lovely faux leather, yes, and it
just feels so nice to write onit does.
It feels really special and thecover is so soft.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, it's a really
lovely faux leather.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
But you know what
else is really cool?
It's not just about how itlooks and feels, but it's some
of the really practical featuresthey've built in.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, like what so?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
things like numbered
pages and a table of contents.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Oh, that's so smart.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I know right.
It seems so simple, but I betthat's so useful yeah and they
really are useful because withthe numbered pages, for example,
you can so easily go back andreference a specific entry.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Oh right, like if
you're having a similar
conversation again.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Exactly, or if you
just want to remember a certain
you know, a certain moment.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Or see how your
feelings maybe have evolved
about a certain topic.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
That makes a lot of
sense.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
It's all about that
continuity.
Yeah so you can kind of trackthings over time.
I like that and really seethose key moments.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
You know, I'm
thinking of a friend of mine
let's call her Maya, okay, andshe was really struggling with
communication with her partner,ben, and they often felt like
they just weren't hearing eachother.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
That's so tough.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It is, and she
actually decided to try using a
journal and she specificallychose this Lestallion notebook.
Oh really, yeah, she'd heardabout it and she really liked
those organizational features.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And she told me that
being able to refer back to past
discussions using thosenumbered pages, yeah, it really
helped them see patterns intheir communication.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Oh, interesting.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, and how they
were actually tackling these
recurring issues.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
That's smart.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So it's almost like
they had a shared history.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Like a tangible
record of their communication.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Exactly that they
could actually flip through.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
That's a really cool
way to look at it.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Right.
So I think it's a great exampleof how these features you know
it's more than just organization.
It's actually supporting betterunderstanding within that
relationship.
I love that.
So let's talk about, like thecore reasons why using a journal
in your relationships can be sopowerful.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
What is it about this
practice that really helps us?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, I think it all
comes down to communication.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
And a deeper
emotional connection.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
So it's more than
just, like you know, writing
down events.
It's about fostering bettercommunication.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Okay, so how does
that work?
How does?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
writing things down
actually help us interact better
with our partners?
Yeah, I mean, is it just abouthow does that work?
How does writing things downactually help us interact better
with our partners.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, I mean, is it
just about like recording what
happened, or is there somethingmore to it?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Definitely more to it
.
It's about creating a space, adedicated space, where you can
process your thoughts andemotions that are related to
your relationship, but in a moreintentional way.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
OK.
And I think that by actuallywriting those feelings down on
paper, you start to understandyour own perspective so much
better, okay, and then you canexpress yourself more openly and
honestly.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
That makes sense.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
When you actually
talk to your partner.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Because you've kind
of processed it yourself first.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Exactly, it's like
having a conversation with
yourself, right To prepare for abetter conversation with your
partner.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So true, it's like
slowing down all those thoughts
that are constantly buzzingaround in our heads.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And giving them a
form that we can actually look
at, and reflect on, and reflecton yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And I think it's also
important to remember that it's
not just about expressing yourown feelings Right.
It's also about understandingyour partner's perspective
that's huge it is and aligningyour hopes and dreams as a
couple.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So it's about finding
that common ground, exactly
Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah.
So whether you're writing downyour dreams for the future or
reflecting on past experiences,together, yeah.
The journal becomes this recordof both your individual
viewpoints and your sharedjourney as a couple, and the
Lestallian journals have so muchspace for that they do With
those 211 pages of thatbeautiful ivory paper.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, it's not just a
quick note.
You know, you can really delvedeep.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
It's a canvas.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
It is.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
For your thoughts and
feelings.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Imagine being able to
go back and look at an entry
from months ago.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That captured a
really special moment.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Oh, I love that idea.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Right, or maybe a
challenging time that you
overcame together and thosenumbered pages make it so easy
to find.
Exactly.
It's like you're building thistimeline.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
The living timeline.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Of your relationship.
Yeah, you know, my cousin Davidwas telling me about this time
when he and his partner weretrying to plan for a big step in
their lives together.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
But they kept having
these, you know, vague
discussions.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
They couldn't quite
get on the same page.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
No they weren't
making much progress.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And he decided to
start using a Lestallian journal
.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And they each wrote
down their individual hopes and
concerns on separate pages, youknow.
And then they came together andcompared what they had written.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
And he said it
brought so much clarity.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, it was amazing
and the table of contents became
their roadmap.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Literally.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
For navigating those
different perspectives and
finding that common ground.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So it sounds like the
physical act of writing,
combined with the organizationof the journal, really help them
be more intentional andthoughtful about understanding
what was happening in theirrelationship.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Exactly so.
It's not just about you knowexpressing yourself, but it's
about how you do it Right andhaving that structure.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It's a framework,
yeah, to guide those
conversations.
Now let's be honest, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You know, no
relationship is perfect.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Of course not.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
We all face
challenges.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
We do.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
So what are some of
those common hurdles that pop up
in relationships, and how can ajournal help us in those
moments?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
You know, especially
a journal like the Lestallion
one, with all its features.
Well, miscommunication is a bigone, and emotional
misunderstandings and unmetexpectations.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Oh, those unspoken
things.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, and those can
lead to a lot of frustration and
resentment.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
They do.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
And even a sense of
growing distance between
partners.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Unfortunately.
Yeah, we've all probably beenthere at some point.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
So how can a journal
become a tool for actually
addressing those issues?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Well, I think the
journal offers this safe space
to confront those challenges.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
In what way?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
So, individually, you
can use the journal to unpack
your feelings about a conflictor a misunderstanding before you
even talk to your partner aboutit, so you can process it on
your own.
Without that immediate pressureof a face-to-face conversation,
yeah, and without maybe thatemotional reactivity that can
sometimes happen.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, and then
together you can use a journal
to explore those sharedfrustrations and work together
to figure out what's reallycausing the problem.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Okay, so it's a way
to organize your thoughts and
feelings before you have thatconversation.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yes, and to be more
constructive.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
And less emotionally
charged.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Exactly, yeah, and
this is where the table of
contents in the ListallionJournal is so helpful.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
You can categorize
your entries by themes.
Oh, that's smart, yeah.
So maybe communicationchallenges, or navigating
finances or resolving conflicts?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
So you can track
patterns.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Go back and see what
worked before.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Or what didn't work.
You have that history.
That tangible history Of howyou've dealt with things.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And you can see the
progress you've made.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And acknowledge your
progress.
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, there's a story
about a couple named Sarah and
Alex.
They'd been married for fiveyears.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
And they loved each
other very much.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
But they were
starting to feel more like
roommates than a connectedcouple.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I think that happens
to a lot of couples.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It does Wow Over time
.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, they were
having trouble communicating.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
And the stress of
everyday life was really pulling
them apart.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Oh yeah, so common it
is.
So what changed for them?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, what happened?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, Sarah found a
Lestallian journal.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And they decided to
try writing in it together.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Oh nice.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, just for a few
minutes each evening.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Sarah decided to
focus on gratitude.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
So she would write
down things that she appreciated
about Alex and theirrelationship.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Even small things.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Even small things.
Yeah, alex focused on thefuture.
Okay, he wrote down his hopesand dreams for their life
together.
Things he maybe hadn't said outloud yeah, things he wasn't so
comfortable saying.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Interesting, so they
were using the journal in
different ways.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
They were, but in
ways that complemented each
other.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Okay, I like that.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
And you know what the
journal became.
This bridge between them.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Oh, it really did.
How so.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
By writing down their
feelings and then sharing those
entries, they created thisspace for vulnerability and
understanding, a deeperunderstanding.
Yes, and they started to talkabout things.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
That they had been
avoiding before, but in a safe
way.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yes, after they had
reflected on it in their
journals.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
That's so powerful.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
It was.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
And so what was the
ultimate impact on their
relationship?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Well.
Their communication improved.
They rebuilt trust.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
And they deepened
their emotional bond.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
It was.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
What a transformation
.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And they started
setting goals together, goals
that they had written about intheir journals oh wow, and they
started celebrating their wins.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Their small wins.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Even the small ones.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
It's so important to
acknowledge those.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It is.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, so it sounds
like the journal was a really
powerful tool for them.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
It was a tool for
reconnection and growth.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I love that story.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I do too.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
It really shows how
intentional reflection can
change the whole dynamic of arelationship.
It can.
So let's say someone islistening to this and thinking
okay, this sounds great, butwhere do I start?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
What are some tips
for actually using a journal to
strengthen a relationship?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Okay, well, the
material we looked at had some
great suggestions.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
First set shared
goals.
Yeah, so this isn't aboutindividual goals, but goals as a
couple.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Right Things you want
to achieve together.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Exactly Like what
kind of things?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Well, it could be
travel plans, okay.
Personal growth goals Mm-hmmFamily aspirations.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Oh yeah, the big
stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, and writing
them down makes them more real.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
More tangible.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, and it gives
you something concrete to talk
about.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
To work towards yes.
And then there's reflecting onconflicts.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Right.
So when you have a disagreement, which we all do.
We all do.
Yeah, don't just let it fester.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Use the journal.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
To write down what
happened.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
From each person's
perspective.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yes, how you each
felt.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
What you learned from
it and how you can move forward
together, so the journalbecomes like a tool for growth.
It does.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
And then there's
expressing gratitude.
Okay, regularly write down whatyou appreciate about your
partner.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Oh, that's a good one
.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It is, it can make
such a difference.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
It can.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
You know their
actions, their qualities, the
little things they do.
It helps you focus on the good.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
And appreciate the
good.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yes, and feel more
connected.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Feel more loved.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's so easy to
forget those things.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
It is.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
When we're busy and
stressed Right.
And then finally, there's usingprompts Prompts, yeah.
Relationship prompts, oh.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
To help you with
self-expression.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, sometimes it's
hard to know where to start.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
It can be.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Right, so prompts can
help.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
So give me some
examples.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Okay, Well, one could
be.
What does trust mean to me inthis relationship?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Ooh, that's a good
one.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Or describe a time
when your partner made you feel
really loved and understood.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Oh, I like that.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Those are great
starting points.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
They are.
And you know what?
Yeah, even the dashed lines inthe listallion journals can be
helpful for keeping your entriesneat and organized.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Oh yeah, that makes
sense.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It's all of those
little details.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
The little details
matter.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
They do that make the
experience more enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
And make you want to
keep doing it Exactly,
consistently.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
So what are the
biggest benefits of relationship
journaling?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Well, you're likely
to see a real improvement in
communication okay you'll becomebetter at expressing yourself
and understanding your partnerand trust will grow absolutely,
because you're creating a spacefor vulnerability and honesty
and what about emotionalintimacy?
That will deepen too okaybecause you'll have a deeper
understanding of each other'sinner world.
That's beautiful and you'lldevelop more empathy for each
(13:26):
other.
So much good stuff there is andultimately it strengthens your
connection as a couple Makes itmore resilient.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Exactly You're
building a stronger foundation.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
One entry at a time.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
One entry at a time.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I love that.
It's true, and you're creatinga record tangible record of your
journey together of yourmemories, your goals, your
reflections it becomes akeepsake it does a beautiful
keepsake with that lovely fauxleather cover yeah, so it's more
than just a notebook it's atreasure really is a story of
your love so, as we wrap up thisdeep dive, yeah I think it's
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clear that nurturing ourrelationships, it takes effort,
it does, it takes reflection.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
And a willingness to
grow together.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
And a relationship
journal can be such a valuable
tool.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It can.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
For navigating all of
that.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
For facing the
challenges.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
And celebrating the
joys.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
And a journal like
the one by Lestallion.
Yes, you know, that'sthoughtfully designed.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Like the one by La
Stallion.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yes, you know that's
thoughtfully designed.
With all those features, it canreally support you in creating
that space.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
That dedicated space.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
For self-expression
and shared understanding.
Exactly so if you're lookingfor a way to really deepen your
bonds and create more meaningfulconnections.
I think it's time to considerthe power of journaling.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
The power of putting
pen to paper.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
So here's something
to think about.
Okay, what small act ofreflection could you start today
that would make the biggestdifference in your relationships
a year from now?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
That's a great
question to ponder.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
It is, it's worth
considering.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
It is Thanks for
joining us for this deep dive.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
It was a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, me too.