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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, so if there's
deep dive, you guys sent us a
ton of stuff about stress andyou know obviously everybody
deals with that.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah, it's kind of a
universal experience, isn't it?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
for sure.
So we're going to specificallylook at journaling as a way to
kind of manage that stress.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
All right and
specifically, we're going to be
looking at Lestallion journals.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Yeah, so the stuff
you guys sent us.
We've got articles about howbad stress is for you, which I
think we all kind of know.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Right, I think we've
all felt that.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, and then we've
got articles about how great
journaling is for you.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, which, again,
you know it's one of those
things it's like is that reallygoing to help?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, is that really
going to make a difference?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We're going to find
out about these list allian
journals and why they're so good.
Yeah, so hopefully by the endwe'll know.
You know, can journaling reallyhelp manage stress?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
yeah, and if so, is a
list allian journal the way to
go?
Exactly okay, so I think weshould start by talking about.
You know why is stress such aproblem?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
like we said,
everybody feels it yeah, I mean,
it impacts so many things inour lives, right?
Yeah, it affects us physically,it it affects us mentally, it
affects us emotionally.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, you don't sleep
as well.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
You don't sleep as
well, you know you might get
headaches, your stomach mighthurt.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, your
relationships suffer.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, absolutely, you
know.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And it's just not fun
to be around.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Exactly You're just
not fun to be around.
You're irritable, you know, andso stress really does have a
huge impact.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, so it's worth
trying to do something about it.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Absolutely, and
that's where journaling comes in
.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, that's what
we're going to look at.
So how does that work?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Right.
So I mean we've got all thesethoughts swirling around in our
heads and it can just feel likechaos sometimes.
Yeah, to stress and anxiety.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, you just feel
overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Exactly.
So what journaling does is itkind of gives you a way to get
all that stuff out of your head.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So you're not
carrying it around with you all
the time.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Exactly you know, you
can literally see your thoughts
on paper.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, that's so
interesting.
So it's like a physicalmanifestation of what's
happening up here.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Right, and that in
itself can be really helpful,
because when you can seesomething, you can start to
understand it better.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
You can start to
organize it.
Exactly so it's not just likerandom thoughts, it's like OK,
there's a pattern here.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Right, and you know I
mean.
Some of the articles you senttalked about this idea of
expressive writing.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
And and that's really
about you know not just writing
down what happened to you today, but also how you felt about it
.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Oh, so your emotional
response to things.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Exactly because
that's a huge part of stress.
Right, yeah, it is so.
You know, expressive writing isall about, like identifying
those triggers.
What are the things that aresetting you off?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, and then how do
you typically respond?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Right, because once
you start to see those patterns,
you can maybe do somethingdifferent.
Exactly.
You can start to change yourbehavior, you can start to
manage your reactions betteryeah, so you're not just a slave
to your stress.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Response exactly
which I think is the goal
ultimately right absolutely.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
The goal is to feel
like we're in control yeah not
that stress is controlling usyeah, okay, so we've talked
about how journaling can help,but now let's look at these
Lestallion journals.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Right, because I mean
, you know, as you said earlier,
there's a difference betweenjust writing in any old notebook
, yeah, and using a journalthat's specifically designed for
this purpose.
Right, and Lestallion seems tohave really thought about this.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So let's start with
the basics.
Like the paper they use, it'sthis wood-free, ivory-colored
paper, right, and it's 120 GSM,which is actually pretty heavy
for a notebook.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, so what's the
big deal about the paper?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well, I mean, it
might seem like a small thing,
but it really does make adifference in the writing
experience.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Because if the paper
is too thin, the ink bleeds
through, yeah.
Or if it's too rough, it's notpleasant to write on.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, it can be
scratchy.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Right, and that can
not only make you more stressed.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Oh really.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, I mean you're
trying to relax and de-stress
and then you're fighting withyour pen and paper.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
It's
counterproductive.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Exactly so,
Lestallion.
Using this high quality paper,it just makes the whole
experience more enjoyable.
You know, it's smooth, it'sluxurious, it feels good to
write on.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, that makes
sense.
So it's not just about what youwrite, it's about the actual
physical act of writing, ExactlyOkay.
So what else They've got?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
numbered pages and a
table of contents which seems
very organized, right well, andthat's really helpful for going
back and reviewing your entries,oh, okay.
Because you know you might bejournaling for months or even
years.
Yeah, because you know youmight be journaling for months
or even years yeah.
And it can be really hard tokeep track of everything.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, so you're not
just flipping through pages
endlessly.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Exactly so.
With the numbered pages, youcan easily refer back to
specific entries.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, and with the
table of contents you can
organize your thoughts by topic.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Right.
So if you're, you know, dealingwith a particular stressor,
like work, for example, yeah,you can have a whole section in
your journal dedicated to that.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Oh, I see, so you can
see how you've dealt with work
stress over time.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Exactly, and that can
be really insightful.
You know, you can see what'sworked, what hasn't worked.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, okay, so they
also have a lot of pages.
These journals are like 211pages.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, so why is that
important?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Well, I think it
gives you a sense of freedom.
Freedom, yeah, you know, youdon't have to worry about
running out of space.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So you can really let
your thoughts flow.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You can write as much
or as little as you need to
without feeling restricted.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, and it also
kind of reinforces the idea that
this is a long-term commitment.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Right, it's not just
a quick fix, it's a journey.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, okay.
So moving on to the physicaljournal itself, it's got a soft
faux leather cover and a sturdybinding.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, it's really
well made.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, so how does
that contribute to stress
management?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well, it's about
creating a sense of comfort and
security.
Oh, you know, when you'restressed, you want to feel safe
and grounded.
Yeah, and having a journal thatfeels good in your hands, that
feels solid and substantial.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
It can be calming.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Exactly, it's like a
little haven.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, okay.
And then they've got these 7.5millimeter wide line pages.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
So what's the
thinking behind that?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well, you know, wider
lines give you more space to
write, which can be reallyhelpful when you're feeling
stressed, because your thoughtsmight be all over the place and
you don't want to feel cramped.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Right, you want to
feel like you have room to
breathe Exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
So the wider lines
just make the whole writing
experience more relaxing.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, okay, and
finally they've got this back
pocket for storing stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, which I love.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
So what kind of stuff
should you keep in there?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Well, you know,
motivational quotes are always
good.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, little
pick-me-ups.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Exactly, or
mindfulness exercises, maybe a
picture of a loved one.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, anything that
brings you joy.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Right, because the
whole point of this journal is
to help you manage stress.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So you want to fill
it with things that support that
goal.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, that's really
smart.
Okay, so we've talked about thefeatures of the journal itself.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
But let's go back to
the actual act of writing.
How does that help us mentallyand emotionally?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Right.
So I mean, as we said earlier,it's about getting those
thoughts and feelings out ofyour head.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
But it's also about
processing them.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Processing them.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, you know, when
you write things down, you have
to think about them morecarefully.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
You have to
articulate them.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Exactly, and that can
lead to some really important
insights.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Insights.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, you know, you
might start to see patterns in
your thinking.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Or you might realize
that some of your beliefs are
actually not true.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Oh wow.
So it's like a form ofself-discovery.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Exactly, and that can
be really powerful, because
when you understand yourselfbetter, you can make better
choices.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Exactly, yeah, that
makes sense.
So it's not just about venting,it's about understanding.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Okay, and you
mentioned earlier this idea of
emotional intelligence.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
How does journaling
promote that?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Well, emotional
intelligence is all about being
aware of your own emotions andthe emotions of others.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
And being able to
manage those emotions
effectively.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
And journaling helps
you do that, because it forces
you to pay attention to howyou're feeling.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, you have to
name it.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Exactly.
You have to put a label on it,and when you do that, you start
to develop a betterunderstanding of your own
emotional landscape.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Okay, so you're not
just reacting, you're responding
.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Right, and that's a
huge part of stress management
yeah because when you cancontrol your emotions, they can
control the situation exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
You're not letting
your emotions control you yeah,
okay, so all of this soundsgreat in theory, yeah, but how
do we actually make it happen inour busy lives?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
right, well, the key
is to make journaling a habit.
A habit.
Yeah, you know, like brushingyour teeth or taking a shower.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So it's not a chore,
it's just part of your routine.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Exactly, and it
doesn't have to take a lot of
time.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Even just five or 10
minutes a day can make a big
difference, oh okay, so youdon't have to write a novel
every day.
No, just a few sentences even.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, okay.
And what about those days whenyou're feeling stuck?
You know you sit down with yourjournal and you're like I don't
know what to write.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Right.
Well, that's where prompts canbe really helpful.
Prompts, yeah, you know, littlequestions or statements that
get you thinking.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Oh, like what was the
best part of my day.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Or what am I grateful
for right now?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Oh, that's a good one
.
Yeah, and Lestallion actuallyhas a whole blog with journaling
prompts.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Oh wow, that's handy.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, so you can
always find something to write
about.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Okay, and we talked
about gratitude earlier.
Yeah, why is that so importantfor stress management?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Well, gratitude is
all about focusing on the
positive.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And when you're
stressed, it's easy to get
caught up in the negative.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, you forget
about all the good stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Exactly so taking a
few minutes each day to write
down things you're grateful for.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
It can really shift
your perspective.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
It can, and it can
actually lower your stress
levels Really.
Yeah, there's been research onthis, oh wow.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Okay, so it's not
just woo-woo, it's science.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
It's science.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Okay, so let's talk
about some of the specific
challenges that journaling canhelp with.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
OK.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Like anxiety, for
example.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Right.
So anxiety is all about worryand fear.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
And journaling can
help you manage those feelings
by giving you a safe space toexpress them.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Oh OK.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
You know you can
write down all your worst fears
without judgment.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And sometimes just
getting it out on paper can make
it feel less scary.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, I could see
that.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And there are also
specific prompts that you can
use for anxiety.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Oh, like what.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Like what's one thing
I can control right now?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Or describe a moment
when you felt truly at peace.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Oh, that's nice.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, because those
prompts help you to shift your
focus away from the things youcan't control and onto the
things you can.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, okay.
So what about chronic stress?
You know that kind of low-levelstress that just never seems to
go away Right.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Well, journaling can
help with that too, because it
can help you to identify thesources of that stress.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
You know, maybe it's
your job or your relationships,
or just the way you're thinkingabout things.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And once you know
what's causing the stress, you
can start to make changes.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, you can develop
coping mechanisms.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Exactly, and
journaling can help you to track
those coping mechanisms.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
You can see what's
working and what's not.
Yeah, Okay.
So let's talk about thelong-term benefits of journaling
for stress management.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Right.
So I mean, we've talked about alot of benefits already, but
one of the biggest long-termbenefits is that it helps you to
develop self-awareness.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Self-awareness.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, you know, the
ability to understand your own
thoughts, feelings and behaviors.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
And that's so
important for managing stress,
because it allows you to seeyour patterns.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Your patterns.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, you know like
how you typically react to
certain situations.
Oh, and once you see thosepatterns you can start to change
them.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, so you're not
just on autopilot.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And what about the
impact of journaling on our
overall mental health, right?
Well, I mean, there's a ton ofresearch showing that journaling
can improve mood, reduceanxiety and even help with
symptoms of depression and PTSD.
Wow, yeah, it's really powerfulstuff.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Okay.
So it's not just about feelingless stressed, it's about
feeling better overall.
Exactly Okay.
So let's wrap things up bytalking about some common stress
triggers and how journaling canhelp.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
So work pressure is a
big one for a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, and journaling
can help with that by giving you
a space to process yourthoughts and feelings about work
.
You know, maybe you're feelingoverwhelmed by a project or
you're having a conflict with acoworker.
Yeah, writing about it can helpyou to get some perspective,
yeah, maybe come up with somesolutions, exactly, and it can
also help you to set boundaries.
Boundaries, yeah, you know,between work and your personal
(12:14):
life.
Right, because it's easy to letwork bleed into everything yeah
, okay, what about relationshipconflicts?
those can be really stressfulyeah, absolutely, and journaling
can help you to understand yourown role in the conflict.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Oh OK.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
You know, maybe
you're contributing to the
problem in some way.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
And it can also help
you to communicate your needs
more effectively.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Oh, that's good.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, because
sometimes it's hard to
articulate what you're feelingin the heat of the moment.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, but when you
write it down, it's like you can
really think it through ExactlyOK.
What about financial concerns?
When you write it down, it'slike you can really think it
through Exactly Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
What about financial
concerns?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Money is a huge
stressor for a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, and journaling
can be really helpful for
managing financial stressbecause it can help you to track
your spending and to create abudget.
Yeah, and it can also help youto set financial goals.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Goals.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, you know like
saving for a down payment on a
house or paying off debt.
Yeah, you know like saving fora down payment on a house or
paying off debt.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
And when you have
those goals written down, it can
make them feel more real andachievable.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Okay, so it's not
just about worrying about money,
it's about taking control.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Okay, and then
there's health issues.
Those can obviously be verystressful.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, and journaling
can help you to cope with the
emotional and mental challengesof dealing with a health issue.
Oh, OK.
You know you can write aboutyour fears, your frustrations,
your hopes, yeah, and it can bereally cathartic to just get it
all out.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, and it can also
help you to track your symptoms
.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Right and to
communicate more effectively
with your health care providers.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
OK.
So it's not just for youremotional well-being, it can
actually improve your physicalhealth as well.
Well-being, it can actuallyimprove your physical health as
well.
Exactly, okay.
And finally, let's talk aboutuncertainty about the future.
That's something that everyoneexperiences to some degree.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, and it can be
really unsettling.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
And journaling can
help you to manage that
uncertainty by focusing on thethings you can control.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Oh, you know, maybe
you can't control what's going
to happen in the world, but youcan control how you respond to
it.
Right, and you can't controlwhat's going?
To happen in the world, but youcan control how you respond to
it Right and you can alsocontrol your own actions.
Yeah, so journaling can helpyou to identify those areas of
control.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Okay, so it's about
empowering yourself.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Okay, so that was a
lot of information.
It was, but hopefully it'sclear that journaling can be a
really powerful tool formanaging stress.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
And that a listallion
journal with all of its
thoughtful features.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Could be a great way
to start.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah.
So if you're feelingoverwhelmed by stress, give
journaling a try.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
You might be
surprised by how much it helps.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, you might just
find that it changes your life.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
So until next time,
happy journaling.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
And stay stress-free.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Or at least less
stressed.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, it's a.