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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Deep
Dive.
Today, we're focusing onsomething that can well really
deepen your whole connectionwith tarot.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Keeping a dedicated
journal.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
And look, this isn't
just about scribbling down.
Card meanings you know, yeah,not at all.
It's more about turning thoserandom draws into a personal
story, seeing how you reactpredictably sometimes to life
stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Exactly Building that
personal narrative.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
And for those of you
listening who, like, really
value getting knowledge quicklyand thoroughly and, crucially,
want to avoid feeling totallyswamped by information.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Which is easy to do
with tarot sometimes, oh,
absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
This deep dive will
show you how journaling,
approached in a focused way, canbe a genuine game changer for
your tarot journey.
Yeah, we're going to explorewhy a dedicated journal is
pretty essential, actually, andhow it can lift the way you
understand your readings.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
And we should
probably mention tools designed
for this, like Lestallionjournals.
They're built with this kind ofpractice in mind.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Good point.
They often come up.
So, yeah, our mission todayexplore why you need that
journal and how it transformsthings.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Right, because it's
easy to just think oh, it's a
notebook, but it's really morelike a sacred space, almost.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
A sacred space.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, it's like your
personal tarot dictionary,
bridging those standard meaningswith your own life, your own
feelings.
That makes it resonate way moredeeply.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So you're writing
down interpretations, emotions,
what was going on when you didthe reading exactly all of it
and that act of writing.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It clarifies things.
Messages that seem kind of hazyat first, they sharpen up and
it helps find patterns rightabsolutely crucial.
It's like an external harddrive for your intuition really
yeah, it helps bring up theseunconscious themes, stuff you'd
probably miss otherwise okay,let's unpack the why a bit more,
then.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
What are the tangible
benefits you get from
committing to this?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Well, at the most
basic level, you document the
specifics, the date, the spreadyou used.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Like a three-card
pull or maybe a Celtic cross.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Exactly, simple or
complex, the position of each
card, what you first thought itmeant, but the real magic, I
think, happens when you add yourown reflections.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Building that
personal language you mentioned.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Precisely you might
find, say, the Queen of Swords
hits differently for you thanthe book definition.
Your journal holds those uniquenuances.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
That makes total
sense.
It's like creating apersonalized map of your inner
world over time.
So how does keeping thatdetailed record specifically
help spot those recurringpatterns you talked about?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Well, because you
have a history, a tangible
record you can actually lookback through.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
You can see if
certain cards, or maybe
combinations of cards, keepshowing up in similar situations
or, I don't know duringspecific times in your life.
It really shines a light onunderlying themes.
Maybe you always pull the towerbefore some big change happens.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, that shows a
pattern of transformation, right
?
So you're seeing the threadsweaving through your life via
the cards.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Exactly, it connects
the dots.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Okay, here's where it
gets really interesting for me,
because I can totally see how,looking back at those patterns
in your journal, would likeseriously hone your intuition.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Precisely.
Yeah, when you regularly writedown readings and then actually
go back and look at them later.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Which requires a bit
of discipline, I guess.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
It does, but it pays
off.
You start to see how yourinitial gut feelings, your
instincts about the cards oftenline up with how things actually
played out.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Building trust in
that inner voice.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Exactly.
It builds that confidence andplus, since tarot often mirrors
our inner state, journalinghelps track your emotional
landscape too.
How so you might notice linksbetween certain cards and your
moods.
Maybe lots of cups cards showup when you're feeling a certain
way.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It just gives you
this valuable self-awareness and
for anyone wanting those ahamoments without getting
overwhelmed, having thisdocumented history, it brings
clarity.
You can process it at your ownspeed.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Okay, so we mentioned
how a well-designed journal
helps.
Let's talk about Listallionagain.
What is it about their journalsthat works so well for Tarot?
We know they're not just anyold notebook.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Well, what's really
cool about Lestallion is how
their features seem almosttailor-made for this, Like the
211 pages, that's a lot of space.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, plenty for
long-term tracking.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Exactly, which is
vital if you want to see those
big-picture patterns and thepaper itself.
It's that smooth 120 GSM stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
GSM.
That's about the paperweightThickness right.
It means it's good quality.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Right.
It feels substantial, smooth.
It just makes the writingexperience itself better, more
enjoyable.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I totally get that
Writing on nice paper.
It feels more intentional, moremeaningful somehow.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
It does, and when it
feels good, you're just more
likely to stick with it, aren'tyou?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
True Consistency is
key.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Then you've got
things like the numbered pages
and the built-in table ofcontents.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Simple things, but I
can see how they'd be huge for
this.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Oh, invaluable.
Imagine wanting to find thatreading you did six months ago
about, I don't know, a jobchange to see if a theme's
repeating.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Nightmare flipping
through, trying to find it.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Exactly, but with
numbered pages and a table of
contents you just catalog itfind it easily.
Makes tracking those long-termpatterns so much simpler.
You can literally see theevolution of a question right
there.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
So yeah, no more
frantic searching for that one
insight you kind of rememberhaving Precisely, and Lestallion
offers different options too.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Right Softcovers.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, like the
Aerogeo Ash, Gray, Black, Barano
, Cocoa Brown, Rowan, Royal Blue, those kinds of names, Right?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
nice names.
And hard covers too the BlackFaux Leather, classic.
Brown, proactive Purple.
So you could pick based on whatfeels right.
Durable, looks good to you,makes it feel more yours.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Personalizes the tool
.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, and some even
have nice little touches like
dashed line pages great forquick notes or sketching a
spread in the back pocket.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Oh yeah, for little
reminder cards or pictures maybe
.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Exactly, really
practical stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Okay, but let's be
real.
Even with the best intentions,maybe even a beautiful
listellian journal, stickingwith journaling consistently can
be tough.
Oh, definitely.
What are the common hurdlespeople hit and how does having a
structured notebook help?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Well, one big one is
just forgetting, forgetting the
insights from the reading itself.
Life gets busy, right, thosefirst impressions fade fast.
So just having that dedicatedLestallion journal right there,
visible, it's a prompt, adesignated spot to capture
thoughts immediately.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Okay, makes sense.
Reduces friction.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And, like we said,
those numbered pages and the
table of contents, they fightthat feeling of losing track of
past insights, which can bereally demotivating.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, if you feel
like your notes are just
disappearing into a black hole,why bother?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Exactly.
Knowing it's organized and easyto revisit encourages you to
keep going.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
What about feeling
overwhelmed by the
interpretation, especiallylooking back at a big, complex
spread?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
That's a really good
point To avoid that overwhelm.
The structure of a listallionactually helps you focus.
You've got clear space for theessentials.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
A lot of people find
using bullet points really helps
.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Capture the key
takeaways, your immediate
reactions, any big connectionsyou see right after the reading.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Doesn't have to be an
essay for every card.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
No way Concise notes
can be super powerful when you
look back.
Keep it manageable.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Okay, You've really
stressed the power of tracking
readings over time.
Can you say a bit more on whythat long view is so valuable
and again how a journal likeLestallion supports it?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, sure, when you
start looking at your tarot
journey, not just day by day,but over weeks, months, even
years, all recorded in a durablenotebook like a Lestallion.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
That quality paper
holding up over time.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Exactly, you start to
see the bigger picture.
Recurring cards, personalthemes tied to life events.
They become much clearer.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Like seeing the
forest, not just the trees.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Precisely.
You might notice certain majorarcana cards always pop up
during big growth periods, ormaybe specific suits like
pentacles dominate when you'refocused on work or money.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Ah, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
This long-term
tracking illuminates the natural
rhythms of your own energy.
You're decision making asreflected in the cards, and
having those insights kept safeon that good quality listallion
paper means they actually last.
Your reflections endure.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
This is all great in
theory, but I think you know an
example might really help landthis, even a made-up one, just
to see how it plays out forsomeone.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Absolutely Good idea.
Okay, let's imagine a friend.
Let's call her Amelia.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Okay, Amelia.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
When Amelia first
started tarot she felt like the
readings were kind of fleetingMeanings, didn't quite stick or
connect to her life.
So she gets a listallionjournal Right.
At first she just writes downthe cards, standard meanings,
but those numbered pages, theybecame key.
After a few months she couldeasily flip back.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And what did she find
?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
She noticed a pattern
.
The three of swords keptshowing up whenever she had
difficult choices to make aboutfriendships.
Oh interesting yeah.
And looking back at her notesnext to those entries she
realized those situations alwaysinvolved her feeling kind of
hurt or betrayed.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
This record, this
tangible record in her journal
helped her see her own tendencyto maybe avoid talking directly
about things in those moments.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Wow OK.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
So the act of writing
it down in her listallion, plus
being able to easily revisitpast entries, it deepened her
understanding of that patternand it actually helps her
approach conflicts differentlylater on, more assertively.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
That's a fantastic
example Journaling leading to
actual self-awareness and change.
Another one, maybe, showing thedifferent angle.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I do.
Let's think about my cousinDaniel.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Daniel Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
He was going through
a really uncertain time with his
career.
Lots of doubt.
He started doing regularreadings and diligently recorded
them in his listallion.
He picked a soft cover, onelike the dashed lines for
sketching the spreads quickly.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
What's interesting is
he started doing a simple
emotional check-in next to hisinterpretations.
Just a few words Feelingfocused today, feeling drained,
whatever.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Just hard.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Over time.
Looking back, he saw thisfrequent pairing Whenever the
Eight of Pentacles you know workskill building showed up, his
notes often said he felt focused, energized, right.
But when the four of swordsrest, withdrawal appeared, he'd
often written down feelingunmotivated or needing a break
ah direct correlation.
Yeah, clearly visible in hisjournal.
(10:11):
It helped him understand hisown energy cycles related to
work, when to push, when to pullback and recharge.
It led to a much more balancedapproach for him during that
tricky career transition.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So the journal became
this tool for understanding
internal rhythms, not justexternal messages.
That's powerful.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It really can be.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Okay.
So if someone's listening andfeeling inspired by Amelia and
Daniel, what are some practicaltips for doing this effectively,
Maybe specifically with theirlistallion?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Right, okay, top tips
First, make it regular.
Even a quick note after onecard helps build the habit.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Consistency again.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, use those
number pages to cross-reference
old readings.
Always note the spread you usethose dashed lines some have are
perfect for a quick sketch anddon't just write the card name.
Jot down symbols that jump out,feelings, themes you notice,
maybe even add context like themoon phase or astrology stuff if
you're into that.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Oh, interesting layer
.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And, crucially, make
time to actually revisit past
entries.
The table of contents in thelistallion makes that so easy.
You'll genuinely be surprisedwhat new insights pop up when
you look back later.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Okay, solid tips, and
what about organizing the
journal itself?
Any suggestions for setting upyour listallion for like maximum
insight?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, dedicating
sections can work really well.
Maybe one for daily draws,another for bigger spreads,
perhaps even a section where youtrack your personal
interpretations of the majorarcana as they evolve.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
And the table of
contents helps you navigate all
that.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Exactly Makes it
super easy.
And experiment.
Try bullet points, try freeformwriting, try structured notes
with headings.
See what clicks for you.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
So find your own
style.
Basically, the listalianstructure just gives you a good
foundation.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Absolutely and
ultimately.
Look, tarot is this amazingtool for connecting with
intuition, for self-reflection.
A dedicated tarot journal justamplifies that power, recording
readings, tracking patterns inits pages.
It strengthens intuition,builds confidence in your
interpretations and gives youthat self-awareness for better
decisions, personal growth.
(12:12):
It's really a documentedjourney of self-discovery.
Page by page, page by page, inyour own way.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
This has been, yeah,
a really illuminating deep dive.
Bringing it all together, itseems clear A dedicated tarot
journal is way more than just alogbook.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Definitely.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
It's a vital tool for
organizing insights, spotting
those patterns and reallydeepening your grasp of both
tarot and yourself.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
And as we've talked
about the features in something
like a Lestallion journal, thatdurable paper, loads of space,
the numbered pages, table ofcontents they're really designed
to support this whole practice,make it easier, more effective,
maybe even more enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, they enhance
the process.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
So for you listening,
here's a thought to chew on.
What recurring themes, whatunexpected insights might start
showing up in your life.
If you committed toconsistently journaling your
readings, you might just bereally surprised by the deeper
understanding you gain aboutyourself, about your path.