March 16, 2025 • 34 mins
Hess and Delbert explore the importance of community through personal anecdotes and reflections. Hess and Delbert share their experiences of reconnecting with old school friends, the value of lasting relationships, and the sense of belonging that comes from enduring friendships. They discuss how their childhood communities provided stability and support, even years later. The duo also touches on contemporary resources like social media that have helped them maintain these connections. Emphasizing authenticity and vulnerability, Hess and Delbert highlight the key role community plays in mental health and personal growth. They offer insights on growing up with different experiences of stability and mobility, and the impact these have on forming lasting bonds. Ultimately, they conclude that despite life's changes and challenges, being an authentic part of a community enriches life and fosters a deep sense of connectedness.
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In addition to being a podcast host, Hess is also an LCSW--if you'd like to learn more about her work as a therapist, check it out at www.jessicabollinger.com
One of her mission's is for all of our lights to shine--when we see each other and allow ourself to be seen--and we can say to the person in front of us, There You Are! the world will be an amazing place!
Delbert is a realtor in Louisville, KY, and you can find her at Kentucky Select Properties
Her philanthropic work to continue her sister Carole and niece Meghan is Carole's Kitchen. Blessings in a Backpack helps feed the many hungry students in our schools. The instagram account is: https://www.instagram.com/caroleskitchen.nonprofit?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==
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Hess (00:01):
Hey, welcome to, let me tell you this about that.
This is Hess.
Delbert (00:07):
Good morning.
This is Delbert.
Again, live from the greencouch.
It is a beautiful March morning.
A little rainy, but that's okay.
We need flowers.
We need green, so it's all good.
Hess (00:22):
Yeah.
And I'm here on my white chairlooking out the window.
the backyard into the pasture inDelbert, think I'm seeing like
98% green now.
It's not just slight green huesin the grass, it's full on green
grass.
Delbert (00:42):
yeah, we've come a long way.
It's my front yard is completelygreen.
The little tree that I'm gettingready to plant look is looking
healthy, Ready to go in theground soon.
And I've got daffodils that arejust busting out like they are
so cute.
I.
Hess (01:02):
Are they fun or what?
They're just like a big springsmile.
Delbert (01:06):
are.
It just makes me so happy to see'em.
And mine just bloomed reallyquickly.
Oh, I re you remember, I, I wasputting protection over'em a
couple weeks ago.
'cause I, I saw'em come out ofthe ground.
They hadn't bloomed yet, and I'mlike, oh, I don't want this cold
weather to get'em.
So I did save and they all didbloom.
So
Hess (01:25):
Awesome.
Delbert (01:26):
I got that for me.
Hess (01:28):
awesome.
Delbert (01:29):
So Hess, I missed the big game last night.
I.
And
Hess (01:34):
Yeah, so let me tell you all this about that is one of
our huge crisscrosses of Delbertand i's we went to the same
grade school and we went to thesame high school and our high
school just won its fifthstraight Sacred Heart Academy
with its fabulous coach DonnaMoir, who was Donna Bender on
(01:56):
our freshman basketball team.
We won in 1976, we got Donna offthe JV bench and put her in for
the state tournament and shehelped us win and she's been the
coach for 32 or 33 years atSacred Heart and she just won.
They just won their fifthstraight high school state
(02:19):
basketball championship lastnight.
The Sacred Heart re, and it wasso good.
So fun.
Delbert (02:27):
It was an amazing game, and the fun thing about it is a
lot of people.
From the team, show up and go tothe games.
For the Sweet 16, it's a greattime for everybody to gather and
be together.
I normally go up and stay on thefarm with Jess and Cathy, but I
didn't get to go this year.
(02:47):
And but we're on this greatthread, the 1976 championship
thread and.
If you're not there, the peoplethat are at the game are
constantly reporting and Hess isreally good at reporting to the
whole thread.
And so you feel like you're apart of it.
You feel like you're part of thegame even if you can't go.
(03:09):
So that's a great sense ofcommunity that you all have, and
I thank you for putting me onthe thread with you.
Even though I wasn't on theteam, I was just a cheerleader.
Hess (03:21):
Were Miss Delbert.
I missed you.
I missed you not staying here atthe farm.
And, last year, a bunch of thefans and our community came back
to the farm in between games,because this is crazy.
And Missy Brown, she couldn'tget over that.
The semi-final game is the sameday as the final that night.
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So on Friday, if the team playedat eight 30 that night, then
they play at one 30.
On Saturday, and that's whatSacred Heart, that's the bracket
they were in.
They, we played at eight 30Friday night, so we played at
one 30 The team that played at6:00 PM Friday night.
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They play at 11:00 AM Saturdayand then they we have to play,
we have to show up again thatnight at seven 30 for the
championship.
Whoever won that, those twobrackets have to play again the
same day.
And Missy Brown, she said,that's just crazy, and so
playing two intense games in oneday, it is something else.
(04:26):
But last year some of us cameback to the farm and.
Sat around the table and talkedand reconnected in ways.
And Delbert, I think you evendid your tart cards
Delbert (04:37):
I did the angel cards for people.
Yeah.
And we had a great time.
Hess (04:43):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we wanna talk to y'all todayabout the theme of community.
Delbert (04:49):
So important to have that community around you and we
have so many different ones,like we've got the.
This 1976 community and thewhole Sacred Heart community.
And then we have our workfriends, our lifetime friends.
Hess (05:06):
Family is a community.
The definition of community,it's a noun.
From Webster's is a group ofpeople living in the same
locality or under the samegovernment, or a district or
locality in which a group livesor a group of people have in
common interests.
(05:26):
So community can show up in allkinds of different ways.
And this new, way that it feelsso good connecting to my old
educational community, the gradeschool I went to, mother of Good
Counsel Delbert, went to theresince kindergarten.
I went there since first grade,the same high school, sacred
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Heart Academy.
the, all the reconnecting tothis group of people, it's just
so beautiful and it's such ablessing.
Delbert (05:57):
It is, and it's one of those things that you know.
We take for granted sometimes.
I do always feel so lucky tohave so many good friends that
have known me my whole lifebecause when you've got friends
that have known you since youwere a kid, they're almost like
a sibling and they know yourstory and it's almost like you
(06:18):
don't even have to say anything.
They understand.
They're good listening ear andgood support in all your good
times and bad.
It's just so good for yourmental health.
To have that community aroundyou,
Hess (06:32):
Right
Delbert (06:32):
no matter what you go through?
Hess (06:34):
You have a group from Sacred Heart of about six or
seven people, Delbert, that youhow do you all get together?
Delbert (06:43):
A number of different ways.
Noni and I live on the samestreet, so we say let's have an
H, HH and that means a Hanoverhappy hour.
And we'll walk.
All are invited to the Hanoverhappy hour, but we'll just say,
let's do that.
And that just means maybe one ofus had a bad day and we just
need to kinda sit out.
If it's nice, we'll watch thesunset and drink a glass of
(07:03):
wine, just talk about the dayand what's going on with our
families and things.
And then in the broader sense,there's seven of us that will
just, go to dinner.
One of our friends, Cathy, has alake house.
We'll go, we'll take littletrips to the lake and then their
husbands all laugh because if weare gonna have a shower, like we
(07:24):
all always have the baby showeror a wedding shower if
somebody's getting married.
And we'll say now we need aplanning meeting for that.
And that just means we're allgonna get together and have fun,
laugh, so we just show up foreach other.
We talked about showing up forour friends in life our family
One of our podcasts a whileback.
(07:45):
And so that's the same thingabout community is just showing
up.
Just being there.
Hess (07:53):
And that's so beautiful that you all have, that you stay
connected that Was fun.
Last Thursday, we played at11:00 AM three girls from the
team drove up together.
To, to the farm because it's onthe way down to Ru.
And we met here and they cameearly enough to where we were
(08:14):
able to just talk a little bitbefore we got in the car and
drove one car down to Ru and soLynn and Debbie and Missy all
get outta the car and they comeinto the house and I tell'em
about the farm and this aboutthe house.
And we walk over to one of mytables where all these photos
are there, and I said, andthey're asking me about my life.
(08:34):
And I said, okay, let me giveyou the lowdown.
And they said, we found out allabout Debbie's life on the way
up, and it's like.
This reconnection in yourcommunity where you can say,
Hey, this other stuff hashappened to me since I've seen
you last.
Delbert (08:48):
Such a good release and when you're in a good community
like that, you can talk aboutyour life without fear of
judgment.
It's a good feeling both ways.
It's good to, to listen and bethere for somebody that makes my
heart so full when somebodysays, you were there for me.
And then on the other side to beable to pour it out and be
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listened to without judgment.
So beautiful.
Yeah.
Hess (09:15):
So I knew, in, in the community I knew these people
loved me.
I knew they knew me.
I.
Through playing basketball withthem and going through all those
ups and downs of basketball forfour years, and I knew that
there wouldn't be that judgment.
And I could say the, these are afew hard things that I, look at
(09:35):
this, look where I am now andthese are a few hard things I've
been through,
Delbert (09:40):
right.
Hess (09:40):
And it was just so beautiful to, for them to know
me more.
And and like Debbie, she was ourmanager on our basketball team,
and she was so wonderful and sobeautiful, and it's so neat how
she stayed so connected to usand her and our team, and knew
her importance to us not justgetting us water and keeping
stats, but like she, she was abackbone and kept us together
(10:03):
and keep us motivated.
it was so fun being with her onthat Thursday.
And we have a lot ofcrisscrosses, Delbert.
She used to live in Lexingtonjust up the road on, on her
husband, worked on a horse farm
Delbert (10:18):
Oh wow.
Hess (10:18):
and yeah, and we have all kinds of crisscrosses and she's
also a therapist like I am,
Delbert (10:25):
Oh my gosh.
Hess (10:26):
yeah, it's so cool.
It's so cool.
Delbert (10:29):
So wonderful.
And we were talking the otherday, Hess, about, you know how,
without even knowing it when wewere young, what a gift our
parents gave us that we got togo to the same parochial school.
For all those years, then wewent to Sacred Heart.
(10:51):
Our lives were so stable and soconnected to community.
And that's something that whenyou're a kid, you just take for
granted.
But it really did shape the kindof people that we are.
It gave me a real sense ofconfidence and grounding that
I'm just, I'm so thankful forevery day.
Hess (11:11):
So I was checking in with Cathy, my wife.
She loves that I have thecommunity and that stability of
the same place for so long Igrew up in the same house my
whole life.
That and your mom stayed in herhouse your whole life, right?
Delbert (11:29):
My mom died in the house that we grew up in.
Yeah.
Hess (11:32):
And Cathy's dad was career Navy, so they moved every three
years.
She does have a sense.
So she really admires that Ihave this community of the, my,
my friends from grade school andhigh school and this
reconnection and this constantconnection.
And she really admires that.
She says, I'm jealous, but notin a bad way, but in an admiring
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way.
I have that.
'cause that's not anything.
She never carried.
Any friend passed after theypulled out and went to another,
went from Virginia to Maine, orMaine to Texas, or Texas to
California.
She didn't pull any of thosefriendships forward to the next
(12:15):
place.
And so she didn't have that.
Delbert (12:19):
I can only imagine as a kid you are trying so hard to
gear up for what's ahead of you.
Hess (12:25):
Say more about that.
What do you mean about what'sahead of you?
Delbert (12:28):
Just, like I'm leaving this place that I know and that
I'm familiar with now after afew years and then, you pull up
and you go to a whole new place.
I think as a kid, you're just somuch invested in wondering what
is, am I gonna have friends?
What's it gonna be like?
(12:48):
Am I gonna be able to play thesame sports?
Am I gonna be able to, have aneighborhood community.
What's my friend community?
What are my teachers gonna belike?
I don't, I just think there's somuch wonder about the unexpected
to wrap your head around.
I think it's hard to, I, whenyou're that young, pull the
Hess (13:08):
Yeah.
Delbert (13:09):
behind you,
Hess (13:09):
and back.
And back then Delbert, as Cathysays, we didn't have internet
and you didn't pick up thephone, it was landlines, and you
didn't wanna make an$8 call
Delbert (13:19):
Oh, you couldn't.
Yeah, and I do remember a coupleof kids that left mother of good
counsel and I was pen pals withthem for a while.
Just wrote letters, but itdidn't last.
You know it, And I alwayswonder, I'm like, darn it, I got
lazy about that letter, and.
I don't know where they are now,but yeah and that's a different
(13:40):
way to grow up and gives you awhole different set of,
strengths and skills, when youmove around.
Hess (13:47):
For sure.
She says if it was a goodexperience, when people say,
where did you grow up?
She'd say they, you would replyeverywhere if it was a good
experience and if it was a hardexperience.
When people ask, where did yougrow up?
And you say Nowhere,
Delbert (14:04):
I know.
Hess (14:05):
meant it was a bad experience.
Delbert (14:07):
Wow.
Hess (14:08):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Delbert (14:10):
I feel so lucky.
Yeah.
I always say Louisville,Kentucky, I'm.
I'm the biggest fan because I'mso fortunate to have grown up
here and my dad.
Being a builder, like Hess's dadhe was a big cheerleader for the
city and state, and he and myPapa Charlie worked together and
(14:30):
they'd say, ain't no placepartier than Louisville,
Kentucky.
And they, oh, they loved it inthe springtime when everything
would bloom.
Look at that.
Look how green it is here.
So it gave me such a deepappreciation for where I was
from and.
And just carried that in myheart and it helped me in my job
as a realtor to just be so proudof where I'm from and to
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appreciate all the beauty andall the wonderful things here.
Hess (14:57):
Yeah, I'd say for sure it probably helps you since you
still are in Louisville, thatit's really helped you in your
real estate practice.
You really know that town andcity inside out, upside down,
you could be a taxi driver.
I.
Delbert (15:13):
And sometimes I am.
But yeah, it's just it was sucha gift.
We've talked about that.
And then somebody called me theother day to see if I was going
to the game and I said, no, I'vegotta work.
And then I had a commitmentwith.
Some other life friends, my workfriends that I've known for
almost 20 years we had a gettogether last night and just so
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good to stay connected.
We hadn't done anything togetherfor a really long time.
And so somebody called and said,Hey, why aren't you at the game
and aren't you gonna stay atyour cousin Hess's house?
And I said we aren't related.
I know people think we are.
So people think that we'recousins.
Hess (15:54):
But like you said, but like you said, when you were
sitting next to my cousin Deweyin that in that kindergarten
class, and you were five dayslate.
After you moved and crossed tothe other side of the Waterson
expressway and she said, okay,you're late, but we're on
Elephant now.
We're on the alphabet.
E and we're coloring thiselephant.
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E is for elephant and Deweycolored the toenails pink.
Delbert (16:20):
A, a red.
Hess (16:21):
Red.
Red.
That then you felt like you thenjoined my
Delbert (16:25):
She just took me under her wing that very first day.
Yeah.
And and I got the benefit of allthese Bollinger cousins that
were in our class that we'vetalked about.
Hess had there were four firstcousins in one class at Mother
of Good counsel.
She had such a big family.
So I was so fortunate, and tothis day, people are like, yeah
y'all are cousins, right?
Hess (16:47):
Love it.
Love it.
So just like these weaving inand out of each other's lives
that the people are always stillthere.
And Facebook has helped itbecause we have the nine, the
class of 1976 SHA Sacred HeartAcademy on Facebook.
We're able to share ifsomebody's parent died or what's
going on with somebody.
(17:07):
That helped us come in as acommunity because we had a
classmate from grade school tohigh school.
That needed help in her life.
Aaron Brady had unfortunatelygotten Luke E's disease a LS we
were able to some really keypeople were able to like, in and
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help her family out at a crucialtime.
their life because we were ableto get the word out that help
was needed.
That was just really cool howthe social media helped us
Something that was importantthat somebody needed
Delbert (17:47):
Yeah.
Hess (17:47):
was going through a hard time.
Delbert (17:48):
There's something good about social media.
Yeah, That's, I always say Ihate all the, back and forth
when people, argue and getexplosive about stuff.
But I love to see, some, I'mlike, oh, I didn't know her son
played soccer.
I love seeing all that kind ofstuff.
Or like you say, oh, so and sowent to The Bahamas.
That's awesome.
(18:09):
Let me, and then you startlooking in all the beautiful
pictures and getting lost andthat For Lent, I gave up
scrolling.
Hess (18:17):
Yeah.
And being fearful or angry,
Delbert (18:19):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I always give that up.
I, fear, it's a natural humaninstinct, but it really, we have
to try to overcome it and notlive our life in fear.
Hess (18:31):
Not to get frozen.
Delbert (18:33):
Just have to live your life fearlessly and just be
hopeful.
Being hopeful is the bestdefense against anything.
To the future and being hopeful.
Yeah.
Hess (18:44):
Delbert, touching on community.
I think about, I've been trainedin the Brene Brown work, and I
use it in my practice.
I use it in my life.
I.
And one of her books, y'all,there's some thunder going on in
the background, thinking aboutone of her books.
It's called Braving theWilderness.
(19:05):
It's real important.
And being around these peopleagain and hearing each other's
stories reminds me of this.
I.
Braving the wilderness is beingable to get a sense of
belonging, but being able tobelong because we are who we
are.
Like, when they all got outtathe car and they said, oh gosh,
we heard all about Debbie'sstories, and I was, then I was
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able to share some of my storiesand I, I still belong even
though.
I'm not selling myself all outor pretending all is good or
life is roses, or anything likethat.
I'm able to get vulnerable.
I'm able to tell someuncomfortable stuff about myself
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be present with the peoplewithout sacrificing who I am.
And that's really beautiful.
That's a really good community.
That's the way to be incommunities, to be who you are
you belong with who you are.
Delbert (20:04):
That's the perfect way to say it.
It is beautiful being yourself,being your authentic self.
And that is also what attractspeople to us, right?
Is when we're authentic andwe're our real self.
It lets our guard down and letspeople in.
Hess (20:23):
For sure.
And it's not living in a silolike living vertically, that I'm
only gonna hang around and bearound these people, or I'm only
gonna present myself as, oh, I'mthis perfect and I've got all my
makeup on, and I go thesebeautiful vacations, and.
It's being able to be verticalAnd go across things and being
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able to this person in the eye,even though they might think
different than me politically,like I'm able to say, oh my
gosh, you live in such abeautiful place.
Tell me more about it.
Oh, and hear about it.
And look at them eye to eye.
then they can also be looking inmy, when I'm looking in their
(21:06):
eye and they see that, oh, weare really the same and we can
live together in thiswilderness, be who we are.
And that's how, that's abeautiful thing.
Delbert (21:19):
Absolutely love that.
Hess (21:23):
yeah.
Delbert (21:23):
you're reading the you're reading the Mel Robbins
book now.
Hess (21:28):
Yes.
And that's what I like when Iwhen her feed comes to me.
Mel Robbins, I saw one the otherday and she's, she lives in
Vermont and she's walking.
Her nose is red and her nose isdripping and she's talking about
something on this cold walk.
You see the snow in thebackground and she's talking
about some the point that she'strying to make and she's just
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real.
She doesn't have to show up withmakeup and look perfect and
stuff.
Her nose can be dripping orshe'll show up with her big
glasses and her house robe on orthe other days.
The feed was like, she wassitting there with her bra on
and getting ready to do hermakeup, seeing how excited she
was.
She was gonna be talking toOprah Winfrey, and she's got
this big curler in her hair andbeing able to just show up and
(22:13):
be real and you're okay.
Delbert (22:16):
That's awesome.
Hess (22:18):
Yeah.
Okay.
So the, her new book is calledLet Them, Where you don't live
in like trying to control somuch or why are they doing this?
Why didn't that, why is thisdriving me so crazy?
Why does my son wanna go tothis?
All of a sudden he is decided togo to the prom.
I'll buy the, I'll buy the bne.
I'll buy whatever the flower forhis date.
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'cause he's not doing it.
And just this sense of control,she.
she wanted to take over and herson says, Hey mom, leave it
over.
Let it go.
She said she didn't want one,and, but she had this sense that
she had to get it done, and ofcourse she's gonna want one and
stuff.
And anyway, that's what kind offlipped her into it.
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we're having some bad storm outthere right now in this very
moment outside.
Delbert (23:05):
That's weird because the sun to come out here.
Hess (23:08):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the weather comes west toeast and I'm about 60 miles east
of Delbert.
anyway so yeah, it's called LetThem, and it's not just possibly
like giving up and saying okay,let them not invite me to, to
this get together.
These friends I like, I see thatthey've gone to do this and I
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wasn't invited.
and okay, this is anothercrisscross.
The wind is getting bigger here.
And because Delbert and Iexperienced the 1974 tornadoes
in Louisville, Kentucky, we're alittle bit more cautious about
tornadoes.
Delbert (23:48):
That's true.
Hess (23:49):
Yeah, I'm more so than Cathy'cause she wasn't in
Louisville, Kentucky in 1974.
My wife.
Okay.
Yeah.
So let them Doesn't mean youjust totally let go.
It's able to let go of the fearor whatever is going on in your
brain, and then you can switchto, okay, let me.
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How do I want to empower myselfand make something ha what am I
in control of?
And I can do what I can do ifmy, if that group of friends got
together and I didn't even hearabout it.
Yeah.
I have been diving into the bookI've been doing and I haven't
been reaching out very much.
Okay I'm gonna start doing thatbecause these people are
(24:32):
important to me, Yeah.
Delbert (24:34):
You wanna say, Hey I've been absent, but the next time
you get together, gimme a shout.
Let me know.
I'd love to join.
And usually it's like people arelike, oh my gosh we just knew
you were so busy.
Hess (24:47):
yeah.
Nanette where are you?
Where are you Delbert?
I'm looking across the repina.
I don't see you sitting therewith these people and
Delbert (24:55):
Yeah,
Hess (24:56):
you.
Delbert (24:56):
she did.
She's called, she says, what?
And I said, I'm cheering fromLouisville.
I promise you my heart is there,but I'm cheering from afar.
And she's okay, that's finethen.
As long as you're here inspirit.
Yeah.
Hess (25:08):
Yeah.
My internet here is starlink andI just gotta say this about that
'cause that's what this podcastis called.
Lemme tell you this about that.
There's a bad rainstorm and Ihave starlink.
I live just.
Five miles from town, but Idon't, they don't have, they
don't have cable out here.
They don't have city water outhere.
(25:30):
And I have starlink for myinternet, but Okay.
It's calming down a little bit.
Phew.
I can relax a little.
Delbert (25:37):
Okay, you're going through the storm with us
friends, you're.
Hess (25:43):
Yeah.
Delbert (25:44):
It's a raw podcast.
We're telling you all kinds ofthings.
I got a little saying fromMother Theresa.
Hess (25:51):
Okay.
What is it?
Delbert (25:52):
We had a spring salad last week.
Today is more of a little bit ofa stone soup or stone soup stew.
First of all, everybody pods outthere, aunt Katie, who you know,
from one of our other basketballpodcasts.
Ask that everybody just pray alittle bit harder every day.
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For peace in our own country.
And of course around the world,there's so many places that are
struggling.
So if you're listening and youwanna share that just everybody,
however you pray, however youmeditate or whatever you
believe, just send or send goodvibes out into the world a
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little bit more every day.
We could sure use it.
And I told Aunt Katie that wewould.
We would say that for her.
But I have a little thing frommother Teresa that kind of goes
along with let them, and it'sabout just living your life the
way you wanna live it, with yourfriends, with your community,
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doing the right thing and justnot worrying about it.
People are often unreasonableand self-centered.
Forgive them anyway.
If you are kind people mayaccuse you of having ulterior
motives be kind anyway.
If you are honest, people maycheat you.
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Be honest anyway.
If you find happiness, peoplemay be jealous.
Be happy anyway.
The good you do today may beforgotten tomorrow.
Do good anyway.
Give the world the best youhave, and it may never be
enough, but give your bestanyway for you.
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See, in the end, it's betweenyou and God.
It was never between you andthem.
Anyway,
Hess (27:46):
Love that Delbert.
Delbert (27:47):
love Mother Theresa.
She's so many good.
Yeah, just do it anyway.
Be good Anyway.
Be happy anyway.
Hess (27:55):
'cause that's what you're in charge of and you're in
control of that.
Delbert (27:59):
Yeah,
Hess (27:59):
you do.
Delbert (28:00):
your own little universe, you just keep on
spinning and making it happy andmaking it part of the pink swirl
or whatever color you want it tobe.
Hess (28:08):
Yes.
So I wanna say this about that,that you all are part of our
community.
We love you.
Please share, subscribe, shareit with your friends, give us a
comment.
You can comment to us and we canconnect back to that.
And.
We love that you're present withus and our Sunday morning chats,
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and that's what this is about,is just we wanted to share
something that felt good to us,our conversations on Sunday
mornings to you and spread itout there to the world.
Delbert (28:40):
Exactly.
So we'd love to hear from youfriends, and we're praying for
you and this whole world, and wehope to hear from, that we.
I want you to be part of ourcommunity.
Hess (28:55):
Yes,
Delbert (28:56):
Peace and love.
Hess (28:59):
do it.
Take care.
Delbert (29:01):
Alright, we love you friends.
Goodbye.
Hey, welcome to, let me tell you this about that.
This is Hess.
Delbert (00:07):
Good morning.
This is Delbert.
Again, live from the greencouch.
It is a beautiful March morning.
A little rainy, but that's okay.
We need flowers.
We need green, so it's all good.
Hess (00:22):
Yeah.
And I'm here on my white chairlooking out the window.
the backyard into the pasture inDelbert, think I'm seeing like
98% green now.
It's not just slight green huesin the grass, it's full on green
grass.
Delbert (00:42):
yeah, we've come a long way.
It's my front yard is completelygreen.
The little tree that I'm gettingready to plant look is looking
healthy, Ready to go in theground soon.
And I've got daffodils that arejust busting out like they are
so cute.
I.
Hess (01:02):
Are they fun or what?
They're just like a big springsmile.
Delbert (01:06):
are.
It just makes me so happy to see'em.
And mine just bloomed reallyquickly.
Oh, I re you remember, I, I wasputting protection over'em a
couple weeks ago.
'cause I, I saw'em come out ofthe ground.
They hadn't bloomed yet, and I'mlike, oh, I don't want this cold
weather to get'em.
So I did save and they all didbloom.
So
Hess (01:25):
Awesome.
Delbert (01:26):
I got that for me.
Hess (01:28):
awesome.
Delbert (01:29):
So Hess, I missed the big game last night.
I.
And
Hess (01:34):
Yeah, so let me tell you all this about that is one of
our huge crisscrosses of Delbertand i's we went to the same
grade school and we went to thesame high school and our high
school just won its fifthstraight Sacred Heart Academy
with its fabulous coach DonnaMoir, who was Donna Bender on
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our freshman basketball team.
We won in 1976, we got Donna offthe JV bench and put her in for
the state tournament and shehelped us win and she's been the
coach for 32 or 33 years atSacred Heart and she just won.
They just won their fifthstraight high school state
(02:19):
basketball championship lastnight.
The Sacred Heart re, and it wasso good.
So fun.
Delbert (02:27):
It was an amazing game, and the fun thing about it is a
lot of people.
From the team, show up and go tothe games.
For the Sweet 16, it's a greattime for everybody to gather and
be together.
I normally go up and stay on thefarm with Jess and Cathy, but I
didn't get to go this year.
(02:47):
And but we're on this greatthread, the 1976 championship
thread and.
If you're not there, the peoplethat are at the game are
constantly reporting and Hess isreally good at reporting to the
whole thread.
And so you feel like you're apart of it.
You feel like you're part of thegame even if you can't go.
(03:09):
So that's a great sense ofcommunity that you all have, and
I thank you for putting me onthe thread with you.
Even though I wasn't on theteam, I was just a cheerleader.
Hess (03:21):
Were Miss Delbert.
I missed you.
I missed you not staying here atthe farm.
And, last year, a bunch of thefans and our community came back
to the farm in between games,because this is crazy.
And Missy Brown, she couldn'tget over that.
The semi-final game is the sameday as the final that night.
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So on Friday, if the team playedat eight 30 that night, then
they play at one 30.
On Saturday, and that's whatSacred Heart, that's the bracket
they were in.
They, we played at eight 30Friday night, so we played at
one 30 The team that played at6:00 PM Friday night.
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They play at 11:00 AM Saturdayand then they we have to play,
we have to show up again thatnight at seven 30 for the
championship.
Whoever won that, those twobrackets have to play again the
same day.
And Missy Brown, she said,that's just crazy, and so
playing two intense games in oneday, it is something else.
(04:26):
But last year some of us cameback to the farm and.
Sat around the table and talkedand reconnected in ways.
And Delbert, I think you evendid your tart cards
Delbert (04:37):
I did the angel cards for people.
Yeah.
And we had a great time.
Hess (04:43):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we wanna talk to y'all todayabout the theme of community.
Delbert (04:49):
So important to have that community around you and we
have so many different ones,like we've got the.
This 1976 community and thewhole Sacred Heart community.
And then we have our workfriends, our lifetime friends.
Hess (05:06):
Family is a community.
The definition of community,it's a noun.
From Webster's is a group ofpeople living in the same
locality or under the samegovernment, or a district or
locality in which a group livesor a group of people have in
common interests.
(05:26):
So community can show up in allkinds of different ways.
And this new, way that it feelsso good connecting to my old
educational community, the gradeschool I went to, mother of Good
Counsel Delbert, went to theresince kindergarten.
I went there since first grade,the same high school, sacred
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Heart Academy.
the, all the reconnecting tothis group of people, it's just
so beautiful and it's such ablessing.
Delbert (05:57):
It is, and it's one of those things that you know.
We take for granted sometimes.
I do always feel so lucky tohave so many good friends that
have known me my whole lifebecause when you've got friends
that have known you since youwere a kid, they're almost like
a sibling and they know yourstory and it's almost like you
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don't even have to say anything.
They understand.
They're good listening ear andgood support in all your good
times and bad.
It's just so good for yourmental health.
To have that community aroundyou,
Hess (06:32):
Right
Delbert (06:32):
no matter what you go through?
Hess (06:34):
You have a group from Sacred Heart of about six or
seven people, Delbert, that youhow do you all get together?
Delbert (06:43):
A number of different ways.
Noni and I live on the samestreet, so we say let's have an
H, HH and that means a Hanoverhappy hour.
And we'll walk.
All are invited to the Hanoverhappy hour, but we'll just say,
let's do that.
And that just means maybe one ofus had a bad day and we just
need to kinda sit out.
If it's nice, we'll watch thesunset and drink a glass of
(07:03):
wine, just talk about the dayand what's going on with our
families and things.
And then in the broader sense,there's seven of us that will
just, go to dinner.
One of our friends, Cathy, has alake house.
We'll go, we'll take littletrips to the lake and then their
husbands all laugh because if weare gonna have a shower, like we
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all always have the baby showeror a wedding shower if
somebody's getting married.
And we'll say now we need aplanning meeting for that.
And that just means we're allgonna get together and have fun,
laugh, so we just show up foreach other.
We talked about showing up forour friends in life our family
One of our podcasts a whileback.
(07:45):
And so that's the same thingabout community is just showing
up.
Just being there.
Hess (07:53):
And that's so beautiful that you all have, that you stay
connected that Was fun.
Last Thursday, we played at11:00 AM three girls from the
team drove up together.
To, to the farm because it's onthe way down to Ru.
And we met here and they cameearly enough to where we were
(08:14):
able to just talk a little bitbefore we got in the car and
drove one car down to Ru and soLynn and Debbie and Missy all
get outta the car and they comeinto the house and I tell'em
about the farm and this aboutthe house.
And we walk over to one of mytables where all these photos
are there, and I said, andthey're asking me about my life.
(08:34):
And I said, okay, let me giveyou the lowdown.
And they said, we found out allabout Debbie's life on the way
up, and it's like.
This reconnection in yourcommunity where you can say,
Hey, this other stuff hashappened to me since I've seen
you last.
Delbert (08:48):
Such a good release and when you're in a good community
like that, you can talk aboutyour life without fear of
judgment.
It's a good feeling both ways.
It's good to, to listen and bethere for somebody that makes my
heart so full when somebodysays, you were there for me.
And then on the other side to beable to pour it out and be
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listened to without judgment.
So beautiful.
Yeah.
Hess (09:15):
So I knew, in, in the community I knew these people
loved me.
I knew they knew me.
I.
Through playing basketball withthem and going through all those
ups and downs of basketball forfour years, and I knew that
there wouldn't be that judgment.
And I could say the, these are afew hard things that I, look at
(09:35):
this, look where I am now andthese are a few hard things I've
been through,
Delbert (09:40):
right.
Hess (09:40):
And it was just so beautiful to, for them to know
me more.
And and like Debbie, she was ourmanager on our basketball team,
and she was so wonderful and sobeautiful, and it's so neat how
she stayed so connected to usand her and our team, and knew
her importance to us not justgetting us water and keeping
stats, but like she, she was abackbone and kept us together
(10:03):
and keep us motivated.
it was so fun being with her onthat Thursday.
And we have a lot ofcrisscrosses, Delbert.
She used to live in Lexingtonjust up the road on, on her
husband, worked on a horse farm
Delbert (10:18):
Oh wow.
Hess (10:18):
and yeah, and we have all kinds of crisscrosses and she's
also a therapist like I am,
Delbert (10:25):
Oh my gosh.
Hess (10:26):
yeah, it's so cool.
It's so cool.
Delbert (10:29):
So wonderful.
And we were talking the otherday, Hess, about, you know how,
without even knowing it when wewere young, what a gift our
parents gave us that we got togo to the same parochial school.
For all those years, then wewent to Sacred Heart.
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Our lives were so stable and soconnected to community.
And that's something that whenyou're a kid, you just take for
granted.
But it really did shape the kindof people that we are.
It gave me a real sense ofconfidence and grounding that
I'm just, I'm so thankful forevery day.
Hess (11:11):
So I was checking in with Cathy, my wife.
She loves that I have thecommunity and that stability of
the same place for so long Igrew up in the same house my
whole life.
That and your mom stayed in herhouse your whole life, right?
Delbert (11:29):
My mom died in the house that we grew up in.
Yeah.
Hess (11:32):
And Cathy's dad was career Navy, so they moved every three
years.
She does have a sense.
So she really admires that Ihave this community of the, my,
my friends from grade school andhigh school and this
reconnection and this constantconnection.
And she really admires that.
She says, I'm jealous, but notin a bad way, but in an admiring
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way.
I have that.
'cause that's not anything.
She never carried.
Any friend passed after theypulled out and went to another,
went from Virginia to Maine, orMaine to Texas, or Texas to
California.
She didn't pull any of thosefriendships forward to the next
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place.
And so she didn't have that.
Delbert (12:19):
I can only imagine as a kid you are trying so hard to
gear up for what's ahead of you.
Hess (12:25):
Say more about that.
What do you mean about what'sahead of you?
Delbert (12:28):
Just, like I'm leaving this place that I know and that
I'm familiar with now after afew years and then, you pull up
and you go to a whole new place.
I think as a kid, you're just somuch invested in wondering what
is, am I gonna have friends?
What's it gonna be like?
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Am I gonna be able to play thesame sports?
Am I gonna be able to, have aneighborhood community.
What's my friend community?
What are my teachers gonna belike?
I don't, I just think there's somuch wonder about the unexpected
to wrap your head around.
I think it's hard to, I, whenyou're that young, pull the
Hess (13:08):
Yeah.
Delbert (13:09):
behind you,
Hess (13:09):
and back.
And back then Delbert, as Cathysays, we didn't have internet
and you didn't pick up thephone, it was landlines, and you
didn't wanna make an$8 call
Delbert (13:19):
Oh, you couldn't.
Yeah, and I do remember a coupleof kids that left mother of good
counsel and I was pen pals withthem for a while.
Just wrote letters, but itdidn't last.
You know it, And I alwayswonder, I'm like, darn it, I got
lazy about that letter, and.
I don't know where they are now,but yeah and that's a different
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way to grow up and gives you awhole different set of,
strengths and skills, when youmove around.
Hess (13:47):
For sure.
She says if it was a goodexperience, when people say,
where did you grow up?
She'd say they, you would replyeverywhere if it was a good
experience and if it was a hardexperience.
When people ask, where did yougrow up?
And you say Nowhere,
Delbert (14:04):
I know.
Hess (14:05):
meant it was a bad experience.
Delbert (14:07):
Wow.
Hess (14:08):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Delbert (14:10):
I feel so lucky.
Yeah.
I always say Louisville,Kentucky, I'm.
I'm the biggest fan because I'mso fortunate to have grown up
here and my dad.
Being a builder, like Hess's dadhe was a big cheerleader for the
city and state, and he and myPapa Charlie worked together and
(14:30):
they'd say, ain't no placepartier than Louisville,
Kentucky.
And they, oh, they loved it inthe springtime when everything
would bloom.
Look at that.
Look how green it is here.
So it gave me such a deepappreciation for where I was
from and.
And just carried that in myheart and it helped me in my job
as a realtor to just be so proudof where I'm from and to
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appreciate all the beauty andall the wonderful things here.
Hess (14:57):
Yeah, I'd say for sure it probably helps you since you
still are in Louisville, thatit's really helped you in your
real estate practice.
You really know that town andcity inside out, upside down,
you could be a taxi driver.
I.
Delbert (15:13):
And sometimes I am.
But yeah, it's just it was sucha gift.
We've talked about that.
And then somebody called me theother day to see if I was going
to the game and I said, no, I'vegotta work.
And then I had a commitmentwith.
Some other life friends, my workfriends that I've known for
almost 20 years we had a gettogether last night and just so
(15:33):
good to stay connected.
We hadn't done anything togetherfor a really long time.
And so somebody called and said,Hey, why aren't you at the game
and aren't you gonna stay atyour cousin Hess's house?
And I said we aren't related.
I know people think we are.
So people think that we'recousins.
Hess (15:54):
But like you said, but like you said, when you were
sitting next to my cousin Deweyin that in that kindergarten
class, and you were five dayslate.
After you moved and crossed tothe other side of the Waterson
expressway and she said, okay,you're late, but we're on
Elephant now.
We're on the alphabet.
E and we're coloring thiselephant.
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E is for elephant and Deweycolored the toenails pink.
Delbert (16:20):
A, a red.
Hess (16:21):
Red.
Red.
That then you felt like you thenjoined my
Delbert (16:25):
She just took me under her wing that very first day.
Yeah.
And and I got the benefit of allthese Bollinger cousins that
were in our class that we'vetalked about.
Hess had there were four firstcousins in one class at Mother
of Good counsel.
She had such a big family.
So I was so fortunate, and tothis day, people are like, yeah
y'all are cousins, right?
Hess (16:47):
Love it.
Love it.
So just like these weaving inand out of each other's lives
that the people are always stillthere.
And Facebook has helped itbecause we have the nine, the
class of 1976 SHA Sacred HeartAcademy on Facebook.
We're able to share ifsomebody's parent died or what's
going on with somebody.
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That helped us come in as acommunity because we had a
classmate from grade school tohigh school.
That needed help in her life.
Aaron Brady had unfortunatelygotten Luke E's disease a LS we
were able to some really keypeople were able to like, in and
(17:31):
help her family out at a crucialtime.
their life because we were ableto get the word out that help
was needed.
That was just really cool howthe social media helped us
Something that was importantthat somebody needed
Delbert (17:47):
Yeah.
Hess (17:47):
was going through a hard time.
Delbert (17:48):
There's something good about social media.
Yeah, That's, I always say Ihate all the, back and forth
when people, argue and getexplosive about stuff.
But I love to see, some, I'mlike, oh, I didn't know her son
played soccer.
I love seeing all that kind ofstuff.
Or like you say, oh, so and sowent to The Bahamas.
That's awesome.
(18:09):
Let me, and then you startlooking in all the beautiful
pictures and getting lost andthat For Lent, I gave up
scrolling.
Hess (18:17):
Yeah.
And being fearful or angry,
Delbert (18:19):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I always give that up.
I, fear, it's a natural humaninstinct, but it really, we have
to try to overcome it and notlive our life in fear.
Hess (18:31):
Not to get frozen.
Delbert (18:33):
Just have to live your life fearlessly and just be
hopeful.
Being hopeful is the bestdefense against anything.
To the future and being hopeful.
Yeah.
Hess (18:44):
Delbert, touching on community.
I think about, I've been trainedin the Brene Brown work, and I
use it in my practice.
I use it in my life.
I.
And one of her books, y'all,there's some thunder going on in
the background, thinking aboutone of her books.
It's called Braving theWilderness.
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It's real important.
And being around these peopleagain and hearing each other's
stories reminds me of this.
I.
Braving the wilderness is beingable to get a sense of
belonging, but being able tobelong because we are who we
are.
Like, when they all got outtathe car and they said, oh gosh,
we heard all about Debbie'sstories, and I was, then I was
(19:27):
able to share some of my storiesand I, I still belong even
though.
I'm not selling myself all outor pretending all is good or
life is roses, or anything likethat.
I'm able to get vulnerable.
I'm able to tell someuncomfortable stuff about myself
(19:48):
be present with the peoplewithout sacrificing who I am.
And that's really beautiful.
That's a really good community.
That's the way to be incommunities, to be who you are
you belong with who you are.
Delbert (20:04):
That's the perfect way to say it.
It is beautiful being yourself,being your authentic self.
And that is also what attractspeople to us, right?
Is when we're authentic andwe're our real self.
It lets our guard down and letspeople in.
Hess (20:23):
For sure.
And it's not living in a silolike living vertically, that I'm
only gonna hang around and bearound these people, or I'm only
gonna present myself as, oh, I'mthis perfect and I've got all my
makeup on, and I go thesebeautiful vacations, and.
It's being able to be verticalAnd go across things and being
(20:45):
able to this person in the eye,even though they might think
different than me politically,like I'm able to say, oh my
gosh, you live in such abeautiful place.
Tell me more about it.
Oh, and hear about it.
And look at them eye to eye.
then they can also be looking inmy, when I'm looking in their
(21:06):
eye and they see that, oh, weare really the same and we can
live together in thiswilderness, be who we are.
And that's how, that's abeautiful thing.
Delbert (21:19):
Absolutely love that.
Hess (21:23):
yeah.
Delbert (21:23):
you're reading the you're reading the Mel Robbins
book now.
Hess (21:28):
Yes.
And that's what I like when Iwhen her feed comes to me.
Mel Robbins, I saw one the otherday and she's, she lives in
Vermont and she's walking.
Her nose is red and her nose isdripping and she's talking about
something on this cold walk.
You see the snow in thebackground and she's talking
about some the point that she'strying to make and she's just
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real.
She doesn't have to show up withmakeup and look perfect and
stuff.
Her nose can be dripping orshe'll show up with her big
glasses and her house robe on orthe other days.
The feed was like, she wassitting there with her bra on
and getting ready to do hermakeup, seeing how excited she
was.
She was gonna be talking toOprah Winfrey, and she's got
this big curler in her hair andbeing able to just show up and
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be real and you're okay.
Delbert (22:16):
That's awesome.
Hess (22:18):
Yeah.
Okay.
So the, her new book is calledLet Them, Where you don't live
in like trying to control somuch or why are they doing this?
Why didn't that, why is thisdriving me so crazy?
Why does my son wanna go tothis?
All of a sudden he is decided togo to the prom.
I'll buy the, I'll buy the bne.
I'll buy whatever the flower forhis date.
(22:39):
'cause he's not doing it.
And just this sense of control,she.
she wanted to take over and herson says, Hey mom, leave it
over.
Let it go.
She said she didn't want one,and, but she had this sense that
she had to get it done, and ofcourse she's gonna want one and
stuff.
And anyway, that's what kind offlipped her into it.
(23:01):
we're having some bad storm outthere right now in this very
moment outside.
Delbert (23:05):
That's weird because the sun to come out here.
Hess (23:08):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the weather comes west toeast and I'm about 60 miles east
of Delbert.
anyway so yeah, it's called LetThem, and it's not just possibly
like giving up and saying okay,let them not invite me to, to
this get together.
These friends I like, I see thatthey've gone to do this and I
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wasn't invited.
and okay, this is anothercrisscross.
The wind is getting bigger here.
And because Delbert and Iexperienced the 1974 tornadoes
in Louisville, Kentucky, we're alittle bit more cautious about
tornadoes.
Delbert (23:48):
That's true.
Hess (23:49):
Yeah, I'm more so than Cathy'cause she wasn't in
Louisville, Kentucky in 1974.
My wife.
Okay.
Yeah.
So let them Doesn't mean youjust totally let go.
It's able to let go of the fearor whatever is going on in your
brain, and then you can switchto, okay, let me.
(24:10):
How do I want to empower myselfand make something ha what am I
in control of?
And I can do what I can do ifmy, if that group of friends got
together and I didn't even hearabout it.
Yeah.
I have been diving into the bookI've been doing and I haven't
been reaching out very much.
Okay I'm gonna start doing thatbecause these people are
(24:32):
important to me, Yeah.
Delbert (24:34):
You wanna say, Hey I've been absent, but the next time
you get together, gimme a shout.
Let me know.
I'd love to join.
And usually it's like people arelike, oh my gosh we just knew
you were so busy.
Hess (24:47):
yeah.
Nanette where are you?
Where are you Delbert?
I'm looking across the repina.
I don't see you sitting therewith these people and
Delbert (24:55):
Yeah,
Hess (24:56):
you.
Delbert (24:56):
she did.
She's called, she says, what?
And I said, I'm cheering fromLouisville.
I promise you my heart is there,but I'm cheering from afar.
And she's okay, that's finethen.
As long as you're here inspirit.
Yeah.
Hess (25:08):
Yeah.
My internet here is starlink andI just gotta say this about that
'cause that's what this podcastis called.
Lemme tell you this about that.
There's a bad rainstorm and Ihave starlink.
I live just.
Five miles from town, but Idon't, they don't have, they
don't have cable out here.
They don't have city water outhere.
(25:30):
And I have starlink for myinternet, but Okay.
It's calming down a little bit.
Phew.
I can relax a little.
Delbert (25:37):
Okay, you're going through the storm with us
friends, you're.
Hess (25:43):
Yeah.
Delbert (25:44):
It's a raw podcast.
We're telling you all kinds ofthings.
I got a little saying fromMother Theresa.
Hess (25:51):
Okay.
What is it?
Delbert (25:52):
We had a spring salad last week.
Today is more of a little bit ofa stone soup or stone soup stew.
First of all, everybody pods outthere, aunt Katie, who you know,
from one of our other basketballpodcasts.
Ask that everybody just pray alittle bit harder every day.
(26:14):
For peace in our own country.
And of course around the world,there's so many places that are
struggling.
So if you're listening and youwanna share that just everybody,
however you pray, however youmeditate or whatever you
believe, just send or send goodvibes out into the world a
(26:35):
little bit more every day.
We could sure use it.
And I told Aunt Katie that wewould.
We would say that for her.
But I have a little thing frommother Teresa that kind of goes
along with let them, and it'sabout just living your life the
way you wanna live it, with yourfriends, with your community,
(26:56):
doing the right thing and justnot worrying about it.
People are often unreasonableand self-centered.
Forgive them anyway.
If you are kind people mayaccuse you of having ulterior
motives be kind anyway.
If you are honest, people maycheat you.
(27:16):
Be honest anyway.
If you find happiness, peoplemay be jealous.
Be happy anyway.
The good you do today may beforgotten tomorrow.
Do good anyway.
Give the world the best youhave, and it may never be
enough, but give your bestanyway for you.
(27:38):
See, in the end, it's betweenyou and God.
It was never between you andthem.
Anyway,
Hess (27:46):
Love that Delbert.
Delbert (27:47):
love Mother Theresa.
She's so many good.
Yeah, just do it anyway.
Be good Anyway.
Be happy anyway.
Hess (27:55):
'cause that's what you're in charge of and you're in
control of that.
Delbert (27:59):
Yeah,
Hess (27:59):
you do.
Delbert (28:00):
your own little universe, you just keep on
spinning and making it happy andmaking it part of the pink swirl
or whatever color you want it tobe.
Hess (28:08):
Yes.
So I wanna say this about that,that you all are part of our
community.
We love you.
Please share, subscribe, shareit with your friends, give us a
comment.
You can comment to us and we canconnect back to that.
And.
We love that you're present withus and our Sunday morning chats,
(28:29):
and that's what this is about,is just we wanted to share
something that felt good to us,our conversations on Sunday
mornings to you and spread itout there to the world.
Delbert (28:40):
Exactly.
So we'd love to hear from youfriends, and we're praying for
you and this whole world, and wehope to hear from, that we.
I want you to be part of ourcommunity.
Hess (28:55):
Yes,
Delbert (28:56):
Peace and love.
Hess (28:59):
do it.
Take care.
Delbert (29:01):
Alright, we love you friends.
Goodbye.
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