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Delbert and Hess, from their respective places in their lives, and in their memories discuss the 4th of July.  Hess informs the conversation of the history of the 4th of July and how it came about.   They both speak of what they like the most.  Delbert has a top five, Family, food, music and water.  Fireworks being last and not as important.  The fireworks are something that always surrounded us, but sometimes caused fear and pain!  With Delbert being the oldest of seven, she recalls her father being the sergeant of safety.  The kids had to hold their arms straight out and when the lit sparkler got close to their hand they took it to the water and put it out, and then put the end into the sand.  Hess remembers a hot sparkler was set on the naugahyde helm seat on the boat.  We invite you to join our conversation.  What does the 4th mean to you?  How do you hold it in your memories?  Peace and Love!

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In addition to being a podcast host, Hess is also an LCSW--if you'd like to learn more about her work as a therapist, check it out at www.jessicabollinger.com

One of her mission's is for all of our lights to shine--when we see each other and allow ourself to be seen--and we can say to the person in front of us, There You Are! the world will be an amazing place!

Delbert is a realtor in Louisville, KY, and you can find her at Kentucky Select Properties

Her philanthropic work to continue her sister Carole and niece Meghan is Carole's Kitchen. Blessings in a Backpack helps feed the many hungry students in our schools. The instagram account is: https://www.instagram.com/caroleskitchen.nonprofit?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==
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Hess (00:01):
Hey, welcome to, let me tell you this about that.
This is Hess, and I'm notsitting in my white chair by the
window at the farm.
I'm sitting on the relationship,that's the name of my boat and
I'm on the re Rideau canal inOntario, Canada.

(00:21):
Where are you at?
Delbert.

Delbert (00:22):
As always, I'm on the green couch here in Louisville,
Kentucky, looking out my picturewindow.
is a beautiful day here inLouisville, Kentucky.
A little bit of cloud cover withthe sun shining through it, so
it's just gorgeous.
A golden kind of morning, twodays after the 4th of July.

(00:43):
Hess is out doing her thing.
Doing the

Hess (00:46):
Yeah it's a section of the loop.
Delbert it, the Rideau canal wasbuilt in 1824.
And it's about, all these locks,and it was built like in five or
six years in 1824.
It's just astounding.
These big, beautiful locks.
And they're still all handcranked except for two of them.

(01:06):
The British up here were fearfulof the United States after the
war of 1812, that they needed aroute a safe route in case we
closed the St.
Lawrence.
St.
Lawrence River, and it's just anamazing, beautiful canal where
this guy connect, connected allthese lakes with a waterway.

(01:30):
So it goes from Kingston,Ontario, from Lake Ontario, from
Kingston, up to Ottawa, andthat's where we're headed.
We put in a little bit.
Above Kingston and we're headedto Ottawa.
We'll get there tomorrow andjust stopping at different
beautiful places along the way.
And I did it for two weeks lastyear, at the beginning of July,

(01:54):
and it was so beautiful.
I brought a different friendwith me to enjoy it This year.
We're having a great time.
I.

Delbert (02:00):
That's wonderful out there living life and taking in
all the beauty.
I love that.

Hess (02:06):
We're gonna talk to y'all today about the 4th of July and
what our memories are and whatwe appreciate about the 4th of
July and the historical contextof it.
Delbert, I got up to Canada onthe 30th.
Of June and the 1st of July istheir O Canada Day, which is
similar to our 4th of July.

(02:27):
And so I got to see the SealyBay parade for O Canada Day and
this community gathering ofvolleyball and games and all
kinds of stuff in Sealy Bay fortheir holiday on the first.
So that was special.

Delbert (02:44):
that.
Love that.
I,

Hess (02:48):
Yeah.

Delbert (02:49):
oh, go ahead.

Hess (02:51):
Just I was kinda wondering how the 4th of July became so
important.
It's America's biggest party,the the Declaration of
Independence was signed on July2nd.
Okay.
So it really wasn't on thefourth.
So it's it was signed on thesecond and approved and dated,

(03:12):
but it was approved and dated onJuly 4th, giving the holiday its
name, July 4th.
So then the following year in1777, Philadelphia celebrated
its first official anniversary.
So ships in the harbor weredecked out with flags.
They were serving a big meal,cannons roared and salute, and

(03:34):
by nightfall fireworksilluminated the city skyline.
So the contrast between that,between 1776 and the joyful
festivities, and then 1777, itmarked the beginning of a new
tradition using spectacle, andfireworks and so on to symbolize

(03:55):
freedom.
Go ahead, Delbert.

Delbert (03:59):
Oh, I was just thinking of, everybody's got their thing
that they need to celebrate forthe 4th of July, and podsters
you all can.
Let us know, comment, let usknow what you do to make the 4th
of July special.
'cause I do think it's soimportant to celebrate our
country.
We, the people, ourindependence, and that no one

(04:23):
person defines us, no onepresident defines us as a
nation.
So the first thing that I saidthat's necessary for my 4th of
July celebration is the peoplethat you surround yourself with.
I really love to be around myfamily.
On the 4th of July I.
This year I was lucky I got togo spend time with my darling

(04:46):
society, my daughter andson-in-law, and one of their
friends.
And we had a really nice dinner.
and just, we're together.
Played a lot of good music.
So my top five are people.
I do like to be around the waterfor 4th of July, and I had to do
that as a subset, like I workedduring the day on the 4th of

(05:07):
July.
So yesterday on the fifth I wentto Turner's and was down by the
river and was at the pool withone of our high school friends,
Margaret.
So I had a two day celebration.
people, water, and even if forme, even if you don't have
access to a pool or a boat, youcan fill that baby pool in your

(05:30):
backyard up and have squirtguns.
I've done that before when mykids were little.
Then the third thing for me isfood.
I like a good cookout.
I like hamburgers and hot dogson the grill.
I like to do.
S'mores marshmallows later.
Really important to me,listening to good music.

(05:51):
That's four.
and fireworks are at the bottom,kind of five.
We, I was little.
My dad was a big safety fanaticand we really, after we would
cook our, we'd build a big fire.
We'd take our boat up to 12 mileand when it got dark, we'd build
a big fire.
We'd roast marshmallows and hotdogs on a stick, and that was so

(06:15):
fun.
Just that glow of that fire nextto the water

Hess (06:21):
Oh.

Delbert (06:22):
Being able to cook your own food, and and then we were
allowed to get one sparkler at atime.
And light it in the fire andkeep, and you had to hold your
arm out straight, and don't gonear any of your siblings with
it.
And I guess there were so manyof us, you had to be really
precise, we were like littlesoldiers.
And then as soon as it startedgetting close to your hand, you

(06:45):
went down to the water and putit out and then you put it in
the sand.
So we had quite the ritual withour sparklers.
And

Hess (06:52):
delbert, you're bringing up something, something just
flashed in my mind.
So we were on the river also andthe sparklers, right?
Hold their arms straight out,and then you would try and then
you would try to like form wordsor something like that.

Delbert (07:07):
you would write with them.
Now, if we really showed that wecould really, hold it together,
then we'd say, let's try towrite our name before the
sparkler burns out.
As long as we stood real farapart and still held the
sparkler out straight we wereallowed to write our name with
it.
Exactly one.
That's so fun.
So simple and so fun

Hess (07:27):
Somebody put a hot sparkler on the boat seat and

Delbert (07:32):
man.

Hess (07:33):
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.

Delbert (07:35):
that, that was a lot of yelling going on for sure.

Hess (07:38):
That wasn't a good thing

Delbert (07:39):
Oh

Hess (07:40):
that.

Delbert (07:41):
That'll, that will ruin your 4th of July.
Okay.

Hess (07:44):
So those sparklers can also give us some bad memories

Delbert (07:53):
For sure, especially, yeah, if

Hess (07:55):
or.

Delbert (07:55):
d.

Hess (07:57):
We're down at, we're down at Lake Barkley with brother,
Ken and he's brought some Romancandles and he tells Cathy to
hold it while it's going off.
We're standing on the dock andit backfires into her hand.
So she's got this big burnt holein the, in her, the palm of her
hand.

Delbert (08:14):
Dang.

Hess (08:16):
Yeah.
So fireworks.
Fireworks became a thing and itwas John Adams that he imagined
something.
Something just like spectacularwith pomp and parade shows,
games, guns, bells, bonfires,and illuminations.
But the fireworks traditiondidn't begin in America.

(08:38):
It traces back to ancientChinese pyrotechnic technology
and eventually made its way toEurope and then to the American
colonies.
Fireworks offered more thanentertainment.
They became a symbolicexpression of national joy and
explosive liberty.
Delbert explosive liberty.
Over time, they crackle burstsof light in the sky.

(09:00):
They became synonymous.
With the very idea of freedom.
Whoa.
So that's where all.

Delbert (09:08):
Such a celebration.
Yeah.
And it does just, when you dosee the really big fireworks go
off in the sky, it is sospectacular and it does give you
pause to stop and think.
About everything that you're sofortunate for.
And so I get it.
I get it.
And it's the lowest on my listbecause it seems like here in

(09:33):
Louisville too, we have, we hadthat big firework show Thunder
over Louisville before, Derbyfestivities, which that's really
amazing and gorgeous.
People love fireworks so muchhere.
I was telling Hess when I wasdriving home from my daughter
and son-in-law's house thefourth evening.

(09:53):
I hadn't planned on anyfireworks or anything, but I
lived so close to so many placesthat do firework shows.
I really just sat on my frontporch and saw'em for free, they
were going off all around me Iwas just like, okay, this is
free.
This is cool.
I love it.

Hess (10:10):
Yeah each community all around will be shooting'em.
So like from our farm.
We'll see him in midway.
We'll see him in Lexington andGeorgetown, so we're also being
in the horse community.
I hear some folks, some friendstalk about how they scare the
horses and please don't do it.

(10:32):
And fortunately we're not tooclose to any of that going on.
But you are able to see it gooff a lot of different places.
And Delbert, I was saying thisabout that, let me tell you this
about that is like when we wereat Thunder over Louisville last
year, not this year.
The drone display is a reallycool thing, which is.

Delbert (10:54):
yes.
That was so beautiful and Ienjoyed that so much, and I,
like you said the.
It does scare all the animals,the dogs and cats and horses and
our pets.
It's the biggest time that petsrun away from home.
I think.
My little grand dogs reallydon't like it.
They have to put a speciallittle t-shirt on get in their

(11:17):
little kennels.
And then I've got a friend whosedog likes it loves me, okay,
patriotic dogs.
Hey, this is cool.
I love it.
So in that me, there's a dogthat like, so some dogs might
like it, I don't know.
But like you were saying earlierthe pollution factor, we.
We do have to take care of ourearth and maybe, drones and

(11:39):
things like that light up thesky more quiet and without any
smoke or anything might be thefuture which that would be
totally cool with me.
I've had my fill of sparklers.
I'm good.
And

Hess (11:54):
Yeah.

Delbert (11:55):
used to get a bucket of water and do sparklers when my
darling society were reallylittle.
We'd do sparklers.

Hess (12:01):
Sweet,

Delbert (12:02):
remember the snakes, the black things that you lit
and it was like

Hess (12:06):
right?

Delbert (12:07):
ooze out, like a big long black snake and you're
like, That even satisfying?
I don't know,

Hess (12:13):
But it was,

Delbert (12:14):
I know because you could light it and it we're
like, ah,

Hess (12:19):
yeah.

Delbert (12:19):
yeah, were those little snaps that you just threw down
on the ground that was justgunpowder that you just threw
down

Hess (12:25):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was really cool While we weregrowing up, Tennessee sold
fireworks

Delbert (12:30):
Oh

Hess (12:31):
and if somebody was driving through Tennessee or
made a special trip to Tennesseeand bought and brought back a
box of fireworks, man they werepopular.
They were popular.
And I can remember being atlittle Jimmy Archdeacon,
lighting the fireworks andsaying, fire in the hole.
And then you run.
Yeah.

(12:51):
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's something else.
So a lot of different memories,both good and bad.
The good and hard.

Delbert (12:58):
There's

Hess (12:58):
yeah,

Delbert (12:59):
4th of July,

Hess (13:00):
there's a whole lot.

Delbert (13:01):
where people do get hurt.

Hess (13:03):
There's a whole lot of news articles.
You know how not to get hurt onthe 4th of July.
Now to help caution people.

Delbert (13:11):
I got a knock on fake wood right here that I've never
had any of, injury related tothe 4th of July.
But I'll tell you what I dothink a lot of that is if you do
practice safety and you're usedto it, do you know what I mean?
Like my dad was so over the topabout it that I just think it
made me like hyper aware to belike super safe.

Hess (13:33):
Right.

Delbert (13:34):
yeah.
And it was, we just had thisthing that we had to do, stick
it in the water, stick it in thesand.
Arms length, so it just made usso hyper aware.

Hess (13:44):
Seven kids all with a sprint, all with a

Delbert (13:47):
we were

Hess (13:48):
marker.

Delbert (13:48):
the people from the Sound of Music, did a little
march,

Hess (13:51):
yeah.

Delbert (13:52):
we were like the Von Traps.
Yeah.
And people used to say, whenwe'd go out to dinner, people
would say, God, they're so good.
Our dad was like a sergeant.
Okay.
It's not like that we're justthat good natured, but it kept
us safe.
We all, even though when my dadwould leave and my mom would be
like, okay, let's party forseven hours while he's gone.

(14:14):
None of us ever got hurt, whichis a miracle.
'cause we did a lot of reallydangerous things when he was at
work.

Hess (14:20):
That's funny.
That's funny.
Yeah.
So Barbecue Chicken on thegrill, on Burquette Grill is one
of my favorite foods for.
Fourth, 4th of July and potatosalad.
So I always like to, I alwayslike to fix that when I'm home
for the fourth, for a holiday.

Delbert (14:40):
Yu.

Hess (14:41):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's been fun, having twocelebrations July 1st and fourth

Delbert (14:46):
Yeah,

Hess (14:47):
when people see my boat going down.
When they saw my boat goingthrough the canals and through
the locks up here, we wentthrough.
14 locks yesterday.
Delbert.
14 locks.

Delbert (14:58):
wow.

Hess (14:59):
Yeah.
'Cause we were trying to get upto this one spot to be able to
go on Ottawa tomorrow.
But anyway being on the

Delbert (15:06):
it take to get through one lock?

Hess (15:08):
about 15 minutes.

Delbert (15:10):
wow.
Okay.

Hess (15:11):
Yeah.
But being on the waterway,within, with my boat, Lexington,
Kentucky, written on it.
People on the fourth when wewere cruising, people would say,
Hey happy Independence Day.
Happy 4th of July.
So that was sweet to berecognized that way.

Delbert (15:29):
Yeah, So yeah, so we both celebrated twice.
Would

Hess (15:35):
Oh yeah.
You got your water, you got yourwater fixed yesterday on the
fifth.

Delbert (15:39):
To just that one component, I had to do that the
day after,'cause I had to workso long, so much on Friday.
The actual fourth that I got,my, my people, my food, my
music.
And my fireworks on the fourth,and then on the fifth I went
down and got my water in.
It was funny, they must have hada really big party at Turner's

(16:00):
on the fourth because nobody wasthere yesterday.
We had the pool to ourself.
We were like,'cause I got thereearly, didn't make sure I got a
chair.

Hess (16:09):
Yeah, so that was on a Saturday.
It was sparse.

Delbert (16:12):
usually really crowded, it was beautiful out, but
anyway, it was a beautiful dayand it's so fun just to, to be
in the water and to be able tosee the river at the same time.
It's just lovely.
So now I have had all mycelebrating, all done and

Hess (16:32):
Yeah you had some new li, you had some new listings come
up that, that you worked and soyou had a pretty busy fourth.

Delbert (16:38):
I had to finish doing, getting everything ready for
those.
'cause both of'em are gonna haveopen houses today and I've got
some more new listings comingup.
So when I get off here, I'mgoing to get right to work and

Hess (16:51):
Yeah.

Delbert (16:52):
real estate.

Hess (16:55):
Yeah.
So folks, what are yourtraditions?
What are your memories?
Think about that.
What are your memories?
What are your best memories of4th of July?
What are your traditions on 4thof July?
It's just really cool that wecan embrace also new traditions.
CA Cathy's dad, when they movedto Midway he would go down to

(17:17):
Lexington at the courthousethere, there would be somebody
reading the Declaration ofIndependence all day, and he
would take part in that and beone of the readers of the
Declaration of Independence.
He loved that.

Delbert (17:31):
That is so cool.
That.

Hess (17:34):
And we have a big parade.
We have the Bluegrass 10,000 inLexington, and about 10 people
from the farm all ran togetherwith that in that race.
And some people have run itlike.
So many years in a row and stufftoo.
That's crazy.
Crazy cool.
And then there's a big 4th ofJuly parade in Lexington.

(17:55):
And we have been in the paradepulling the gay pride float and
also the Relation Ship.
We pulled it for the LGBTQ plusin the parade.
And that's been some of ourfavorite memories is being in
the parade.
And all the people along theside cheering you on and stuff.

(18:16):
That's been a lot of help.

Delbert (18:17):
That's a great feeling.
Tell us what your top five are.
Pods.
Hear from you.
Everybody does it a little bitdifferent and there's no wrong
way.

Hess (18:28):
Yeah.

Delbert (18:28):
makes you feel good

Hess (18:30):
Yeah.

Delbert (18:31):
gives you that little lift, that little boost, that
little light spark keeps yougoing.

Hess (18:38):
Yeah, it is about connection and it's about our
stories, and we all have our ownstory.
And those stories are writtenlike in the lights and the
sounds and the memories and thesensations of it.
So think about the fourth.
We love you all.
Thank you all so much forjoining us.

(18:58):
I'm gonna be cruising on up 20more miles to Ottawa today with
my friend and my dog Tyler andDelbert.
What are you up to today?

Delbert (19:10):
Just working.
I've got two open houses, like Isaid, and some new listings to,
to get.
Up and running as well.
So working today and verythankful for all these wonderful
clients that I have.

Hess (19:27):
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So no matter what's going on, nomatter what might be happening
with whatever you feel ishappening in the country where,
it's also being able to feel itand make it be something good
for you.
It's all good.
It's all good.

Delbert (19:45):
Keep those good vibes going.
Friends, love you.

Hess (19:49):
We love you.
Yeah, please share and this withother people and we'll see you
all next week.
Peace and love.

Delbert (19:57):
Peace and love.
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