March 23, 2025 • 33 mins
Join Hess and Delbert in this heartwarming episode as they share their reflections on life's small joys and big lessons. From marveling at a stunning sunrise to delving into meaningful dialogues about emotional resilience, friendship, and personal growth, the duo explores a variety of topics. They discuss the significance of gratitude, humor, mindfulness, and positive routines in shaping our daily lives. The episode also features touching anecdotes about family, history, and the importance of having a growth mindset. Tune in for an uplifting and insightful conversation that encourages you to find beauty in every sunrise and sunset.
Update on my friend José and his cancer treatments. After the first rounds of chemo, after new scans--the good news is that the tumor in the colon has shrunk, but they have increased in his liver. His oncologist has increasd the power of the chemo to help irradicate it elsewhere. Thank you so much for your support to Jose!
https://gofund.me/e6f61999
In addition to being a podcast host, Hess is also an LCSW--if you'd like to learn more about her work as a therapist, check it out at www.jessicabollinger.com
One of her mission's is for all of our lights to shine--when we see each other and allow ourself to be seen--and we can say to the person in front of us, There You Are! the world will be an amazing place!
Delbert is a realtor in Louisville, KY, and you can find her at Kentucky Select Properties
Her philanthropic work to continue her sister Carole and niece Meghan is Carole's Kitchen. Blessings in a Backpack helps feed the many hungry students in our schools. The instagram account is: https://www.instagram.com/caroleskitchen.nonprofit?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==
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Hess (00:00):
Good morning.
It's Sunday morning and it's,let me tell you this about that.
I'm Hess
Delbert (00:06):
Good morning.
I'm Delbert again.
Live from the green couch inLouisville, Kentucky.
I was just telling Hess boy, wehad a beautiful sunset this
morning.
All the colors, all myfavorites, pink and purple,
orange and yellow.
It was gorgeous.
Hess (00:24):
Sunrise.
Delbert Sunrise.
Delbert (00:26):
I keep saying sunset.
Yeah, it's morning.
It was a sunrise.
Sorry.
I have only had one cup ofcoffee.
Hess (00:34):
They're very similar one's coming up, one's going down.
Delbert (00:37):
Yeah, but she, yeah, we got a whole day ahead of us, so
It was gorgeous.
Hess (00:43):
We do, and I'm looking out on the green pastures and the
green grass in the yard and Iwas really excited.
'cause yesterday my buddybrought two renovators, pasture
renovators and two big tractorsand his guys worked all day
yesterday planting new seed.
So that's really cool on a farmis to do some pasture renovation
Delbert (01:07):
So hopeful to plant those seedlings.
Hess (01:10):
right.
Delbert (01:10):
I was like planting my little flowers.
And Hess is I've got twotractors and two seeders, and
you're just, yeah you're goingto town on plant.
You got all kinds of hope outthere.
Hess (01:22):
I do.
I do.
Oh, yeah.
I heard this one thing.
If you wanna be happy for ayear, get married.
If you wanna be happy for 10years, get a dog.
If you wanna be happy the restof your life, plant a garden.
Delbert (01:35):
That's
Hess (01:35):
Oh.
Delbert (01:36):
perfect.
That is so true.
That is so true.
Hess (01:39):
Oh Martha said that right now, watch Martha's documentary.
Delbert (01:44):
gosh.
I love her.
Yes.
I love how she tries to makethings so special for her
friends and family.
You and I have talked about thatwhen whether it's making a
dinner or a cup of tea orwhatever when you just try to
make it so special for somebodyeven a group of people, I think
they really notice and I thinkthat's a wonderful gift to have.
Hess (02:06):
My friend Laverne, she loves to set the table first
before she even starts cooking.
To prepare for these people.
Coming over.
It's just this, the setting, thetable setting will be this
beautiful spot for everybody tosit around.
So she does that first.
Delbert (02:22):
I love well, and I have a lot of dishes.
I always decide which dishes I'mgonna use and I don't cook a lot
and I don't have people overthat much, but God, I love to
collect dishes for it.
I've got six different sets ofdishes and I'm running outta
places to put'em, but I justlove having them.
I love to make things fancy andnice.
Hess (02:44):
Sweet.
Sweet.
So more about this pasturerenovation.
I bought the seed from Southernstates a couple weeks ago, so
we'd be good to go.
And it was like a wholetruckload full of these big bags
of seed.
'cause I bought, I.
20 pounds an acre for 75 acres,and we unloaded it and put it
inside our tobacco barn on somepallets.
(03:06):
And anyway, so it was ready togo and you gotta, you, you can't
do the seed drill.
Now the seed drill is prettycool because it makes a line in
the soil and then the seed dropsdown in there, and then there's
something that covers it up.
And so what's cool is later onwhen you're riding in the big
field and stuff, you see theselines.
And then you see these littlesprouts of these rows of grass,
(03:28):
new grass growing up.
And if you have a good stand ofgrass, you have less weeds.
And that's what Delbert and Iare gonna talk about is having a
good stand of thoughts that canhelp the weeds not pull us down
to a downward spiral.
Delbert (03:43):
Yes, absolutely.
I love that you took that classthis week and you called me and
we had a great conversationabout it and we're like, yes,
let's make.
That the podcast.
Hess (03:55):
Yeah excuse me, Dalbert, sorry, listeners, coughing in
your ear.
I have to renew my LCSW licensethis fall, so I.
I've been signing up fordifferent CEUs and I thought,
why not sign up for a CU that'sgonna help me out, so I signed
up for 16 key habits ofemotionally resilient people,
(04:16):
and the presenter, Dr.
Kateri McCrae, she's out ofDenver.
She was a psychology and atheater major, so she was really
a great presenter.
It was just a really goodpresentation.
From 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM abouthow we can pull ourself up from
the downward spiral.
Delbert (04:37):
And it's the bounce back that we talk about.
It's getting your bounce back.
It's refocusing your brain from,Hess sent me the video so I
could see it.
And I loved that idea of, whenyou're in that spiral and you're
going down with.
These thoughts that you canreally give yourself a bounce
(05:00):
back.
Like I talk about like my momtaught us to do, just
redirecting.
Hess (05:06):
Or your paw
Delbert (05:08):
Oh yeah, Papa Charlie was great about that.
Hess (05:12):
And Delbert's paw was in World War II and in some really.
Really extensive battles.
I think in one battle he waslike the only survivor or
something,
Delbert (05:22):
foxhole?
Yes, in his foxhole.
He was the only survivor I tookone of my darlings out to dinner
last night and we talked aboutPapa Charlie and the bounce back
and, one of the worst parts oftour there was when they walked
to the, one of the concentrationcamps and liberated it, and can
(05:44):
you imagine just walking downthis country and you know where
you're going, you know you'regoing.
To this concentration camp toliberate it.
And the German soldiers wererunning out and surrendering
and, their instructions were tokill him, and my papa just
couldn't do that.
And he had a lot of nightterrors and stuff about that.
(06:06):
But they did liberate and Ican't remember the name of it,
but I'll look it up.
He was the hundred fourthdivision the Timberwolves in
the.
Army and they were very famousand actually they are featured
in the Holocaust museum fortheir bravery and liberating
(06:27):
that one Camp
Hess (06:28):
Say that again.
I'm gonna write that down andlook that, look them up.
The a hundred and fourthdivision.
Delbert (06:35):
the timber wolfs,
Hess (06:37):
And so did you find out a lot, did you find out a lot
about what Papa did?
Just by that?
Delbert (06:42):
You can now because you can look it up.
When I was a little kid Ididn't, he didn't like to talk
about it.
But my mama I actually haveright now at my house and I'm
trying to find time to makecopies for everybody in my
family.
My ma saved every newspaper andthey're real delicate.
You really gotta handle'emreally carefully'cause they
crumble every newspaper article.
(07:06):
She had the menu and the littlebooklet with the little letter
from the president from the shipthat they took over there.
And they were on it onThanksgiving Day and they had
pork tenderloin and it had themenu on it.
And so I have that and have lotsof newspaper articles.
And then of course now you canGoogle it and just the things
(07:26):
that the hundred fourth did werejust.
Really amazing.
And here he is, 26-year-old guywith four children and a wife at
home.
He's just trying to get backhome.
But he did so many brave thingsand he really had to adjust his
thinking every day when he gotback to think about something
good.
And he was such a good examplefor all of us about looking on
(07:49):
the bright side and looking.
To the good and really I thinkhe's the reason that the first
thing I do after I do my Goldieha stretch and wake up, I open
the window, I open the curtains,and I look at the day, I look up
at that sun and that sky.
Hess (08:05):
And there's scientific proof that taking in the sun for
about 30 minutes in the morningis really good
Delbert (08:13):
That's why I have
Hess (08:14):
you.
Delbert (08:14):
So can the sun in the morning,
Hess (08:16):
Yeah.
And you face the now double hergreen couch.
It's two sections.
Facing each other with abeautiful little coffee table in
between.
And in the morning you're facingout, looking out the window.
Delbert (08:29):
If I have company, I let them sit on the side.
That looks out.
'cause it is just such a prettyview out the picture window.
And I sit on the other side, I'mlike, no, I'm good.
I, I look out that every singleday when I say my prayers and,
have my coffee and get ready forthe day.
And I think that's anotherthing, just having a routine
that's positive doing yourprayers or meditation or
whatever shifts your thought tothe good in the morning.
Hess (08:53):
Absolutely.
Part of my conversation withDelbert after I attended Dr.
Kateri McCrae's talk was thatDelbert, the, these are all
things that she was talkingabout are all part of your
bounce back.
It's really beautiful.
You didn't even know it.
Delbert (09:08):
I didn't even know it.
It's to bounce back, but itworks.
Yeah.
Hess (09:13):
So in the morning she was talking about the brain science
behind our emotions and ouremotions are really super, super
important.
Super important.
I didn't know any feelings oremotions'cause I felt like we
don't talk about things asCatholics growing up, at least
back then.
And I remember when I was 27,I'm seeing a therapist.
(09:34):
I'm about to move to the farm.
My dad doesn't want myrelationship to move here to the
farm with me, and I'm seeingthis therapist and she goes how
do you feel about that?
And I'm like I couldn'tunderstand because my dad blah,
blah, blah, blah.
And she goes, no, how do youfeel about it?
I'm like because my dad'sCatholic.
And she goes, no, how do youfeel about it?
And I go, whoa.
(09:55):
I don't know how I feel.
I never had any kind of emotionslike reflected back at me.
What's what is a headache?
How do you know what a headacheis?
What, how do you define anemotion that, so it's people
around us that can help us feel,figure out what we're feeling,
and I.
I didn't really have anyvocabulary or feelings.
(10:17):
I had 30 days to more powerfulvocabulary on my bookshelf, but
I had zero feelings feelingwords.
So our feelings are soimportant.
There's a cool book called theLanguage of Emotions by Karla
McLaren, Karla with a K, andeach of our emotions is really
important to, to tell us what'sgoing on and like anger.
(10:41):
The the message from anger iswhat must be protected, what
must be restored, and we couldgo into bottom down reactions to
the anger, like rage, right?
And stuff like that.
Or we could go from the top fromour prefrontal cortex, from our
thinking brain, get that andmaybe let it turnstile up to our
(11:01):
thinking brain and okay whatboundary must be restored here?
What do I need to say here?
What action I need to take?
So it's like moving from feelingthe emotion and then moving to
what action needs to take place.
What can we do?
Delbert (11:20):
I love that and I loved how she talked about the
prefrontal cortex and the frontof the brain that is more
developed as we've evolved ashumans using that more evolved
part of.
Your brain to shift your focus.
Hess (11:35):
They call that bottom part of their brain, like the
reptilian brain, the reactivebrain.
Delbert (11:42):
the reactive.
Okay.
Hess (11:44):
But it's important that we feel that, and then we can try
to spiral up when we somethinghappens or the state of things.
Gets us down and we keepspiraling down.
It narrows our focus.
And she had us do this littleexercise.
She said, okay, I'm gonna giveyou one minute to write
everything.
You got a piece of paper, got apen?
Okay, go.
You have one minute to writeeverything that has wheels.
(12:07):
And if you're in a more, ifyou're in a, if you're in a calm
centered state, you can think ofmore things.
So that's pretty awesome ifyou're in the downward spiral,
it narrows your focus and youcan't even hardly think of any
solutions.
Delbert (12:22):
Oh wow.
like restrictive and tight.
Hess (12:27):
Exactly.
Exactly.
You got it, Delbert.
You got it.
Delbert (12:32):
like a drill, the kind of, a little photo she had of
it, with the Immediately.
And as a kid I was like, wait, Ijust wanna feel like this for a
minute, gimme a second and getmy, almost wanted to get my
bearings and what that felt likeand I was such a, in touch with
my feelings, except maybebecause of just the richness
(12:53):
that I was around as a kid.
My grandparents, I talk abouthow religious my grandmother was
and how, what good vibe she had.
I knew that being near her was agood vibration.
I.
A very spiritual and purevibration.
She wasn't a southern woman thatsaid, bless your heart.
And, then said, tramp, she said,bless your heart.
And then she said, A prayer foryou in, in, in the most genuine
(13:17):
way, and so I was just around somuch goodness with my parents
and aunts and uncles and mygrandparents that I did get
distinguished for myself.
And I was the oldest too, so Ifeel like I had some knowledge
from being around adults a lotthat I absorbed off of them.
Hess (13:37):
And you had a little bit more quiet time before everybody
else came along to saturate thatup, correct.
Delbert (13:44):
Probably, not at my house, but at my grandparents'
house.
Yes.
'cause I would stay there a lotwhen my mom would go in the
hospital and have a baby.
I was thinking about her thismorning'cause I dreamt about her
the other night and I'm thinkingGod.
She was pregnant for 12 years.
I'm like, my mom never smoked ordrank when I was little.
What?
She couldn't, she was pregnantthe whole time.
(14:05):
I was a teenager before shewent.
She was like not having a babyor in the hospital.
So my first six years maybe ofmy life, I was at my
grandparents a lot.
I.
Hess (14:16):
That's beautiful.
Delbert (14:17):
It was amazing.
It was I'm so grateful andthankful for it, but I did get
to sort things out and say, no,I'm not gonna bounce back right
this minute, but I am gonnabounce back.
And I, I'm very thankful forthat.
Hess (14:30):
Yes.
Something that I do that, thatDr.
Kateri talked about wasgratitude journaling, and at the
end of each day, I'll write downa list of things I'm grateful
for, and then that's pretty coolto go to bed with that mindset.
Delbert (14:44):
Oh yeah.
Hess (14:46):
Humor and humor.
Delbert.
She mentioned that, and you talkand you shared with us on the
pod like you'll just, you'lllisten to some YouTube of some
comedians that you like a lot.
Delbert (14:57):
Lovely.
Leeanne Morgan and KathleenMadigan.
I will I'll just listen tosomething funny and that is so
uplifting.
Hess (15:05):
She talked about laugh clubs, and I'd never heard of
one before.
She's given a talk she said thisone person in the, in, in the
group was just so stoic andnever, just sitting there.
And then when I'm talking aboutthis, she said, he goes, oh
yeah, I go to a laugh club.
And she goes, this just likereally astounded me.
I it wasn't the same impressionI had about him, but you're in a
(15:27):
circle or you get paired up withsomebody and you're just
supposed to just start laughing.
And once she said, once youstart laughing for 20 seconds,
you just get into a big bellylaugh and it's a natural laugh.
I gotta try that.
Delbert (15:39):
oh, I love that.
Okay.
Tina Keller and I used to dothat all the time.
We just say, okay, let's juststart laughing and see how long
it goes.
And we laughed all the way fromRough River to back to
Louisville and her parents Ithink wanted to kill us.
Hess (15:59):
I tell you one, one reason I like to listen to the podcast,
to re-listen to it, is to hearmyself laugh, just just then.
Yeah.
Delbert (16:07):
it is
Hess (16:07):
I love it.
Delbert (16:08):
feeling.
So comedy thinking aboutgratitude what else are ways we
can turn our thinking has When
Hess (16:16):
Moving to good social support.
Surround yourself with peoplethat can lift you up, that's
real important.
Delbert (16:24):
Yes, that is so important.
My friends are so important tome.
So many different friend circlesand during Covid I had to depend
on the checkout person at Targetto lift me up and sometimes
they'd let me down, I gotta saybut.
When you were just sequesteredin your house during Covid, that
was the worst for me because I'mvery social and I'd go to Target
(16:49):
just to talk, and sometimes Iwouldn't get any response from
the person that checked me out.
So I'd go buy something else andcheck out again at a different
point.
I'm like, you people aren'tgiving me what I need.
Yeah.
Oh I meant to buy a pack of gum.
I'm gonna go back through thischeckout.
Hess (17:07):
Okay.
Another thing she talked aboutthat I thought was cool, and I
know about it, but it was fun tohear it being defined because I
know sometimes I could be likethis or meet people like this
instead of having a fixedmindset to have a growth
mindset.
And let me tell you what a fixedmindset is, and that's people
that believe like just theirbasic qualities.
(17:27):
Their intelligence or talent aresimply fixed traits, and they
spend the time documenting theirintelligence or talent instead
of developing them.
They also believe that talentalone creates success without
effort.
So a fixed mindset, that's whatthat is.
And a growth mindset is peoplebelieve that their most basic
abilities can be developedthrough dedication and hard
(17:50):
work.
Brains and talent are just thestarting point.
This view creates a love oflearning and a resilience that
is essential for greataccomplishment.
Delbert (18:01):
Oh, that's awesome.
Hess (18:03):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I had a brother that was anatural athlete Jesse, boy
Natural, and then my brotherAndy, Pete worked at it, and
Andy, Pete went really far andstill does in golf and other
things because he works hard atlearning something.
Delbert (18:22):
A lot of recruiters will say that, give me the
person that works hard.
the talented person Thinks theycan skate by.
Yeah.
Hess (18:32):
Yeah.
Delbert (18:32):
person that's got, the rituals and the, all the little
tasks that they do each andevery day to be successful,
always the most successful.
Then you, and when you pair thatwith talent, then you know it's
amazing.
But you can be equal to thattalented person through your
perseverance and yourdiscipline.
Hess (18:54):
Amen.
And Dr.
Kateri, she's a researcher andshe did this.
They did, she talks about thisexperiment.
They did.
With the really naturally smartpeople they gave them a math
test and then somebody thatdidn't have as much acuity for
math, they gave them a mathtest.
And the people that were good atmath, I.
(19:15):
The way that it was a computergenerated is then they get, as
they got a right answer, theyget harder and harder and harder
questions.
And the other people thatweren't as good as math, they
just got pretty basic math andthey scored in 80%.
The people that were really goodat math scored in 80%.
So then everybody gets theirpaper back, their test back, and
(19:39):
the people that have a.
They had a fixed mindset becausethey know they're already
intelligent.
They just go, oh, 80%, and theyjust threw it back down.
And the people that got an 80%that weren't as good as math
each group was asked, Hey, doyou wanna know what questions
you got wrong?
The people with the fixedmindset.
(20:00):
They said, no, we don't.
I don't wanna know.
And the people with the growthmindset that weren't as good as
math, they go, yeah, I wannaknow.
I wanna know which one I gotwrong so I can learn how to do
it.
That was pretty cool.
Yeah so that all boiled downthis week as an example for me
is my friend Juve that workshere at the farm, his daughter
Heidi said, I wanna be an actor.
(20:21):
And I just found out this year.
So anyway, I found this class onSaturdays at the Woodford
Theater, and it started lastSaturday.
It started yesterday.
So I just found this, found,discovered this like last
Wednesday.
And there and there was thisopportunity in these different
classes and Heidi said, no, Ican't sing, so I don't wanna, I
(20:42):
don't wanna do the musicaltheater, but, so then the 9:00
AM to 10:00 AM class I.
For people in middle school thatwas canceled.
They didn't have enough people.
And when I talked to the personin charge, they said, oh, she
will love this musical theaterclass.
The teacher is so good.
I said, but she said she can'tsing.
They said she won't have to doany solos.
(21:04):
She can sing with other people.
And so I told Heidi I said, yougotta go to the 11 to 1230.
Musical theater.
She goes, oh no, I can't sing.
She's texting me.
And she does that.
She does the repetition of
Delbert (21:18):
You know how she's talking'cause she's.
In it
Hess (21:21):
yeah.
Delbert (21:21):
I love it.
Hess (21:22):
Oh, no, I can't sing.
And I said,
Delbert (21:26):
on the No.
Hess (21:27):
yeah and I said, look, you don't have to sing solo.
You can sing with other people.
It's supposed to be really good.
And she said.
Okay,
Delbert (21:40):
A-A-A-A-A-A-Y.
Okay.
Hess (21:42):
So Delbert.
Yesterday at one o'clock, I'mdriving to Louisville, see my
mom and I get this text and it'sjust so cute to get a text from
a 12-year-old.
I get this text, she says, yeah,okay.
It's at one 14.
Hey, Jesse.
Just to update you.
It was amazing.
I absolutely loved it.
(22:03):
We did a bit of, we did a bit ofsinging.
We also did a dance with thesong.
It was very fun.
Thank you so much.
She's in a growth mindset.
She's in a growth mindset.
Yeah.
Delbert (22:18):
Oh, that's beautiful.
That's so great that you openedthat up for her.
Just
Hess (22:23):
Planted a seed.
Delbert (22:24):
up and she goes in and grows.
Yeah.
Hess (22:26):
Oh man, man, she's just gonna be like those rows of
pasture renovation out there.
I can recall our classmate, shewas a year ahead of us, Nell
Pierce.
She told me I can't sing, and itjust stuck in my head.
That's no good.
Don't want to hear that.
Delbert (22:45):
let's sing in the shower.
Hess (22:47):
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a fixed mindset.
Yeah.
And I was talking to Heidi'slittle brother, to Heidi's big
brother yesterday morning, and Isaid, Hadie said she don't want
to, she don't want to do it'cause she can't sing.
He goes, she sings all the timeat home.
So boom, so cool.
So cool.
And she risked it.
She risked it, she did it.
(23:08):
I'm so proud of her.
She's amazing.
Delbert (23:11):
took a lot of bravery too.
Hess (23:12):
Yeah.
I think the way that you wake upin the morning when you do your
Goldie ha stretch, that's a wayto wake up and to be positive
and look forward to something,and you trying to find the
sunrise and those kind ofthings.
What, tell us more about theGoldie Ha stretch.
Delbert (23:28):
It is just something that I watch a lot of videos of,
just self-improvement andGoldie, Han's got some kind of
program she does for children.
for the emotional and I, I don'tknow how it's a certain way of
learning that she's got like a,some kind of program for that
she was just talking about that,but first she was talking about
(23:50):
the way she woke up in themorning and she just, takes a
real deep breath and she gets.
flowing to all of her limbs.
So she'll stretch her arms andher legs and then she opens her
eyes really slow.
And if I don't do that in themorning, I'm like, shoot, forgot
my Goldie hand stretch because Ilike to open it.
(24:10):
It is nice to wake up like thatand just open your eyes really
slow and take a deep breath in.
Just gets you ready.
It's a way to ease into it.
and it just sets the pace Just areally good day.
So
Hess (24:25):
Beautiful.
Delbert (24:26):
remember to do that.
Yeah, it's just a, and it's justa little thing, but I'll have to
look that up along with theconcentration camp that my my
papa liberated.
I'll look both of those up fornext time.
Friends, I'm sorry, I Didn'tknow we were gonna talk about
it, but Yeah.
She's really into, justmindfulness and wellness of your
(24:48):
mind and learning.
So I just love that about herand I love all her movies.
If I'm ever sad, I watchOverboard.
I love that movie.
Hess (25:00):
So that gets you back up in the upward spiral.
Delbert (25:02):
it gets me back up.
Yeah.
Leanne Morgan, Goldie HaKathleen Madigan.
I love when Kathleen Madigansays the nuns told her not to
bother Jesus.
Bother your guardian angel,she's there 24 7 You with all
your personal needs.
If your guardian angel can'thelp go to the saint of that
particular, she's so funny.
(25:23):
I
Hess (25:24):
Yeah.
Delbert (25:24):
And
Hess (25:25):
Yeah.
Delbert (25:25):
grew up Catholic, she's even funnier.
And I'm, we talked about that.
Having our guardian angels, onceI learned about cheerleading, I
had mine just sit on myshoulders in school, I would
just picture my angel sitting upon my shoulders.
Hess (25:37):
One, one of my clients re listening to Mel Robbins, said
that the, one of the good tipsshe got from Mel Robbins is to
give herself a high five in themirror in the morning, and I
gotta get in the habit of doingthat.
Delbert (25:48):
that's good.
Oh, I That.
Yeah,
Hess (25:51):
yeah.
Positive reflection of yourself,believing in yourself.
We got this.
Yeah.
Delbert (25:58):
have this.
Hess (26:00):
Yeah.
And Mel has a big thing now.
Mel Robbins is this thing aboutlet them, and a lot of people
are getting that tattooed on'em.
I'm not into tattoos, but Iappreciate beautiful tattoos,
but let them just being able tolet go the reaction of something
that's bothering you orsomething that's done to you.
Let them, and then that's, thenthe important part is then to
(26:21):
say, then let me, what can I dothen?
Delbert (26:25):
about that last week.
Yeah, just let it go.
And that's when you've letthings go, you're expanding and
it's pushing that drill up outof the ground, right?
It's undoing the spiral when youlet it go.
And let, just let them do it.
Let me work on myself over here.
Hess (26:41):
Yeah.
Delbert (26:42):
good things I can do.
Hess (26:44):
Yeah.
Yeah, so everybody, you,everybody has the potential to
do all of these things.
And it's just us chain harrowingthe fields before the renovating
pasture we renovated thepastures with the seed drill is
you're fertile.
You're, you're ready.
Get your ground ready to be ableto do the spiral up and move to
joy.
Delbert (27:05):
Whether it's, planting some flowers or looking out at
the sunrise or sunset, beingwith your friends if you're
feeling down, I.
Go out, take a walk, call yourfriends, have a cup of coffee,
sit and watch the sunset andhave a glass of wine.
It'll help you out of thatspiral.
Hess (27:25):
Yeah, everybody, I want you to, I want to thank you all
so much for joining ourconversation.
I feel so much better right nowbefore I started, and I hope you
do too.
Every Sunday.
We'll put a new episode out.
Please give us a review,subscribe, share it with a
friend, and this beautiful songthat Carla Gover wrote on our on
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our intro and outro.
So beautiful.
Carla Gover.
She's making a new album.
Anyway, everybody, we love you.
Please share.
Delbert (27:55):
Peace and love everybody.
We hope you find a beautifulsunrise and a beautiful sunset.
We love you friends.
Good morning.
It's Sunday morning and it's,let me tell you this about that.
I'm Hess
Delbert (00:06):
Good morning.
I'm Delbert again.
Live from the green couch inLouisville, Kentucky.
I was just telling Hess boy, wehad a beautiful sunset this
morning.
All the colors, all myfavorites, pink and purple,
orange and yellow.
It was gorgeous.
Hess (00:24):
Sunrise.
Delbert Sunrise.
Delbert (00:26):
I keep saying sunset.
Yeah, it's morning.
It was a sunrise.
Sorry.
I have only had one cup ofcoffee.
Hess (00:34):
They're very similar one's coming up, one's going down.
Delbert (00:37):
Yeah, but she, yeah, we got a whole day ahead of us, so
It was gorgeous.
Hess (00:43):
We do, and I'm looking out on the green pastures and the
green grass in the yard and Iwas really excited.
'cause yesterday my buddybrought two renovators, pasture
renovators and two big tractorsand his guys worked all day
yesterday planting new seed.
So that's really cool on a farmis to do some pasture renovation
Delbert (01:07):
So hopeful to plant those seedlings.
Hess (01:10):
right.
Delbert (01:10):
I was like planting my little flowers.
And Hess is I've got twotractors and two seeders, and
you're just, yeah you're goingto town on plant.
You got all kinds of hope outthere.
Hess (01:22):
I do.
I do.
Oh, yeah.
I heard this one thing.
If you wanna be happy for ayear, get married.
If you wanna be happy for 10years, get a dog.
If you wanna be happy the restof your life, plant a garden.
Delbert (01:35):
That's
Hess (01:35):
Oh.
Delbert (01:36):
perfect.
That is so true.
That is so true.
Hess (01:39):
Oh Martha said that right now, watch Martha's documentary.
Delbert (01:44):
gosh.
I love her.
Yes.
I love how she tries to makethings so special for her
friends and family.
You and I have talked about thatwhen whether it's making a
dinner or a cup of tea orwhatever when you just try to
make it so special for somebodyeven a group of people, I think
they really notice and I thinkthat's a wonderful gift to have.
Hess (02:06):
My friend Laverne, she loves to set the table first
before she even starts cooking.
To prepare for these people.
Coming over.
It's just this, the setting, thetable setting will be this
beautiful spot for everybody tosit around.
So she does that first.
Delbert (02:22):
I love well, and I have a lot of dishes.
I always decide which dishes I'mgonna use and I don't cook a lot
and I don't have people overthat much, but God, I love to
collect dishes for it.
I've got six different sets ofdishes and I'm running outta
places to put'em, but I justlove having them.
I love to make things fancy andnice.
Hess (02:44):
Sweet.
Sweet.
So more about this pasturerenovation.
I bought the seed from Southernstates a couple weeks ago, so
we'd be good to go.
And it was like a wholetruckload full of these big bags
of seed.
'cause I bought, I.
20 pounds an acre for 75 acres,and we unloaded it and put it
inside our tobacco barn on somepallets.
(03:06):
And anyway, so it was ready togo and you gotta, you, you can't
do the seed drill.
Now the seed drill is prettycool because it makes a line in
the soil and then the seed dropsdown in there, and then there's
something that covers it up.
And so what's cool is later onwhen you're riding in the big
field and stuff, you see theselines.
And then you see these littlesprouts of these rows of grass,
(03:28):
new grass growing up.
And if you have a good stand ofgrass, you have less weeds.
And that's what Delbert and Iare gonna talk about is having a
good stand of thoughts that canhelp the weeds not pull us down
to a downward spiral.
Delbert (03:43):
Yes, absolutely.
I love that you took that classthis week and you called me and
we had a great conversationabout it and we're like, yes,
let's make.
That the podcast.
Hess (03:55):
Yeah excuse me, Dalbert, sorry, listeners, coughing in
your ear.
I have to renew my LCSW licensethis fall, so I.
I've been signing up fordifferent CEUs and I thought,
why not sign up for a CU that'sgonna help me out, so I signed
up for 16 key habits ofemotionally resilient people,
(04:16):
and the presenter, Dr.
Kateri McCrae, she's out ofDenver.
She was a psychology and atheater major, so she was really
a great presenter.
It was just a really goodpresentation.
From 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM abouthow we can pull ourself up from
the downward spiral.
Delbert (04:37):
And it's the bounce back that we talk about.
It's getting your bounce back.
It's refocusing your brain from,Hess sent me the video so I
could see it.
And I loved that idea of, whenyou're in that spiral and you're
going down with.
These thoughts that you canreally give yourself a bounce
(05:00):
back.
Like I talk about like my momtaught us to do, just
redirecting.
Hess (05:06):
Or your paw
Delbert (05:08):
Oh yeah, Papa Charlie was great about that.
Hess (05:12):
And Delbert's paw was in World War II and in some really.
Really extensive battles.
I think in one battle he waslike the only survivor or
something,
Delbert (05:22):
foxhole?
Yes, in his foxhole.
He was the only survivor I tookone of my darlings out to dinner
last night and we talked aboutPapa Charlie and the bounce back
and, one of the worst parts oftour there was when they walked
to the, one of the concentrationcamps and liberated it, and can
(05:44):
you imagine just walking downthis country and you know where
you're going, you know you'regoing.
To this concentration camp toliberate it.
And the German soldiers wererunning out and surrendering
and, their instructions were tokill him, and my papa just
couldn't do that.
And he had a lot of nightterrors and stuff about that.
(06:06):
But they did liberate and Ican't remember the name of it,
but I'll look it up.
He was the hundred fourthdivision the Timberwolves in
the.
Army and they were very famousand actually they are featured
in the Holocaust museum fortheir bravery and liberating
(06:27):
that one Camp
Hess (06:28):
Say that again.
I'm gonna write that down andlook that, look them up.
The a hundred and fourthdivision.
Delbert (06:35):
the timber wolfs,
Hess (06:37):
And so did you find out a lot, did you find out a lot
about what Papa did?
Just by that?
Delbert (06:42):
You can now because you can look it up.
When I was a little kid Ididn't, he didn't like to talk
about it.
But my mama I actually haveright now at my house and I'm
trying to find time to makecopies for everybody in my
family.
My ma saved every newspaper andthey're real delicate.
You really gotta handle'emreally carefully'cause they
crumble every newspaper article.
(07:06):
She had the menu and the littlebooklet with the little letter
from the president from the shipthat they took over there.
And they were on it onThanksgiving Day and they had
pork tenderloin and it had themenu on it.
And so I have that and have lotsof newspaper articles.
And then of course now you canGoogle it and just the things
(07:26):
that the hundred fourth did werejust.
Really amazing.
And here he is, 26-year-old guywith four children and a wife at
home.
He's just trying to get backhome.
But he did so many brave thingsand he really had to adjust his
thinking every day when he gotback to think about something
good.
And he was such a good examplefor all of us about looking on
(07:49):
the bright side and looking.
To the good and really I thinkhe's the reason that the first
thing I do after I do my Goldieha stretch and wake up, I open
the window, I open the curtains,and I look at the day, I look up
at that sun and that sky.
Hess (08:05):
And there's scientific proof that taking in the sun for
about 30 minutes in the morningis really good
Delbert (08:13):
That's why I have
Hess (08:14):
you.
Delbert (08:14):
So can the sun in the morning,
Hess (08:16):
Yeah.
And you face the now double hergreen couch.
It's two sections.
Facing each other with abeautiful little coffee table in
between.
And in the morning you're facingout, looking out the window.
Delbert (08:29):
If I have company, I let them sit on the side.
That looks out.
'cause it is just such a prettyview out the picture window.
And I sit on the other side, I'mlike, no, I'm good.
I, I look out that every singleday when I say my prayers and,
have my coffee and get ready forthe day.
And I think that's anotherthing, just having a routine
that's positive doing yourprayers or meditation or
whatever shifts your thought tothe good in the morning.
Hess (08:53):
Absolutely.
Part of my conversation withDelbert after I attended Dr.
Kateri McCrae's talk was thatDelbert, the, these are all
things that she was talkingabout are all part of your
bounce back.
It's really beautiful.
You didn't even know it.
Delbert (09:08):
I didn't even know it.
It's to bounce back, but itworks.
Yeah.
Hess (09:13):
So in the morning she was talking about the brain science
behind our emotions and ouremotions are really super, super
important.
Super important.
I didn't know any feelings oremotions'cause I felt like we
don't talk about things asCatholics growing up, at least
back then.
And I remember when I was 27,I'm seeing a therapist.
(09:34):
I'm about to move to the farm.
My dad doesn't want myrelationship to move here to the
farm with me, and I'm seeingthis therapist and she goes how
do you feel about that?
And I'm like I couldn'tunderstand because my dad blah,
blah, blah, blah.
And she goes, no, how do youfeel about it?
I'm like because my dad'sCatholic.
And she goes, no, how do youfeel about it?
And I go, whoa.
(09:55):
I don't know how I feel.
I never had any kind of emotionslike reflected back at me.
What's what is a headache?
How do you know what a headacheis?
What, how do you define anemotion that, so it's people
around us that can help us feel,figure out what we're feeling,
and I.
I didn't really have anyvocabulary or feelings.
(10:17):
I had 30 days to more powerfulvocabulary on my bookshelf, but
I had zero feelings feelingwords.
So our feelings are soimportant.
There's a cool book called theLanguage of Emotions by Karla
McLaren, Karla with a K, andeach of our emotions is really
important to, to tell us what'sgoing on and like anger.
(10:41):
The the message from anger iswhat must be protected, what
must be restored, and we couldgo into bottom down reactions to
the anger, like rage, right?
And stuff like that.
Or we could go from the top fromour prefrontal cortex, from our
thinking brain, get that andmaybe let it turnstile up to our
(11:01):
thinking brain and okay whatboundary must be restored here?
What do I need to say here?
What action I need to take?
So it's like moving from feelingthe emotion and then moving to
what action needs to take place.
What can we do?
Delbert (11:20):
I love that and I loved how she talked about the
prefrontal cortex and the frontof the brain that is more
developed as we've evolved ashumans using that more evolved
part of.
Your brain to shift your focus.
Hess (11:35):
They call that bottom part of their brain, like the
reptilian brain, the reactivebrain.
Delbert (11:42):
the reactive.
Okay.
Hess (11:44):
But it's important that we feel that, and then we can try
to spiral up when we somethinghappens or the state of things.
Gets us down and we keepspiraling down.
It narrows our focus.
And she had us do this littleexercise.
She said, okay, I'm gonna giveyou one minute to write
everything.
You got a piece of paper, got apen?
Okay, go.
You have one minute to writeeverything that has wheels.
(12:07):
And if you're in a more, ifyou're in a, if you're in a calm
centered state, you can think ofmore things.
So that's pretty awesome ifyou're in the downward spiral,
it narrows your focus and youcan't even hardly think of any
solutions.
Delbert (12:22):
Oh wow.
like restrictive and tight.
Hess (12:27):
Exactly.
Exactly.
You got it, Delbert.
You got it.
Delbert (12:32):
like a drill, the kind of, a little photo she had of
it, with the Immediately.
And as a kid I was like, wait, Ijust wanna feel like this for a
minute, gimme a second and getmy, almost wanted to get my
bearings and what that felt likeand I was such a, in touch with
my feelings, except maybebecause of just the richness
(12:53):
that I was around as a kid.
My grandparents, I talk abouthow religious my grandmother was
and how, what good vibe she had.
I knew that being near her was agood vibration.
I.
A very spiritual and purevibration.
She wasn't a southern woman thatsaid, bless your heart.
And, then said, tramp, she said,bless your heart.
And then she said, A prayer foryou in, in, in the most genuine
(13:17):
way, and so I was just around somuch goodness with my parents
and aunts and uncles and mygrandparents that I did get
distinguished for myself.
And I was the oldest too, so Ifeel like I had some knowledge
from being around adults a lotthat I absorbed off of them.
Hess (13:37):
And you had a little bit more quiet time before everybody
else came along to saturate thatup, correct.
Delbert (13:44):
Probably, not at my house, but at my grandparents'
house.
Yes.
'cause I would stay there a lotwhen my mom would go in the
hospital and have a baby.
I was thinking about her thismorning'cause I dreamt about her
the other night and I'm thinkingGod.
She was pregnant for 12 years.
I'm like, my mom never smoked ordrank when I was little.
What?
She couldn't, she was pregnantthe whole time.
(14:05):
I was a teenager before shewent.
She was like not having a babyor in the hospital.
So my first six years maybe ofmy life, I was at my
grandparents a lot.
I.
Hess (14:16):
That's beautiful.
Delbert (14:17):
It was amazing.
It was I'm so grateful andthankful for it, but I did get
to sort things out and say, no,I'm not gonna bounce back right
this minute, but I am gonnabounce back.
And I, I'm very thankful forthat.
Hess (14:30):
Yes.
Something that I do that, thatDr.
Kateri talked about wasgratitude journaling, and at the
end of each day, I'll write downa list of things I'm grateful
for, and then that's pretty coolto go to bed with that mindset.
Delbert (14:44):
Oh yeah.
Hess (14:46):
Humor and humor.
Delbert.
She mentioned that, and you talkand you shared with us on the
pod like you'll just, you'lllisten to some YouTube of some
comedians that you like a lot.
Delbert (14:57):
Lovely.
Leeanne Morgan and KathleenMadigan.
I will I'll just listen tosomething funny and that is so
uplifting.
Hess (15:05):
She talked about laugh clubs, and I'd never heard of
one before.
She's given a talk she said thisone person in the, in, in the
group was just so stoic andnever, just sitting there.
And then when I'm talking aboutthis, she said, he goes, oh
yeah, I go to a laugh club.
And she goes, this just likereally astounded me.
I it wasn't the same impressionI had about him, but you're in a
(15:27):
circle or you get paired up withsomebody and you're just
supposed to just start laughing.
And once she said, once youstart laughing for 20 seconds,
you just get into a big bellylaugh and it's a natural laugh.
I gotta try that.
Delbert (15:39):
oh, I love that.
Okay.
Tina Keller and I used to dothat all the time.
We just say, okay, let's juststart laughing and see how long
it goes.
And we laughed all the way fromRough River to back to
Louisville and her parents Ithink wanted to kill us.
Hess (15:59):
I tell you one, one reason I like to listen to the podcast,
to re-listen to it, is to hearmyself laugh, just just then.
Yeah.
Delbert (16:07):
it is
Hess (16:07):
I love it.
Delbert (16:08):
feeling.
So comedy thinking aboutgratitude what else are ways we
can turn our thinking has When
Hess (16:16):
Moving to good social support.
Surround yourself with peoplethat can lift you up, that's
real important.
Delbert (16:24):
Yes, that is so important.
My friends are so important tome.
So many different friend circlesand during Covid I had to depend
on the checkout person at Targetto lift me up and sometimes
they'd let me down, I gotta saybut.
When you were just sequesteredin your house during Covid, that
was the worst for me because I'mvery social and I'd go to Target
(16:49):
just to talk, and sometimes Iwouldn't get any response from
the person that checked me out.
So I'd go buy something else andcheck out again at a different
point.
I'm like, you people aren'tgiving me what I need.
Yeah.
Oh I meant to buy a pack of gum.
I'm gonna go back through thischeckout.
Hess (17:07):
Okay.
Another thing she talked aboutthat I thought was cool, and I
know about it, but it was fun tohear it being defined because I
know sometimes I could be likethis or meet people like this
instead of having a fixedmindset to have a growth
mindset.
And let me tell you what a fixedmindset is, and that's people
that believe like just theirbasic qualities.
(17:27):
Their intelligence or talent aresimply fixed traits, and they
spend the time documenting theirintelligence or talent instead
of developing them.
They also believe that talentalone creates success without
effort.
So a fixed mindset, that's whatthat is.
And a growth mindset is peoplebelieve that their most basic
abilities can be developedthrough dedication and hard
(17:50):
work.
Brains and talent are just thestarting point.
This view creates a love oflearning and a resilience that
is essential for greataccomplishment.
Delbert (18:01):
Oh, that's awesome.
Hess (18:03):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I had a brother that was anatural athlete Jesse, boy
Natural, and then my brotherAndy, Pete worked at it, and
Andy, Pete went really far andstill does in golf and other
things because he works hard atlearning something.
Delbert (18:22):
A lot of recruiters will say that, give me the
person that works hard.
the talented person Thinks theycan skate by.
Yeah.
Hess (18:32):
Yeah.
Delbert (18:32):
person that's got, the rituals and the, all the little
tasks that they do each andevery day to be successful,
always the most successful.
Then you, and when you pair thatwith talent, then you know it's
amazing.
But you can be equal to thattalented person through your
perseverance and yourdiscipline.
Hess (18:54):
Amen.
And Dr.
Kateri, she's a researcher andshe did this.
They did, she talks about thisexperiment.
They did.
With the really naturally smartpeople they gave them a math
test and then somebody thatdidn't have as much acuity for
math, they gave them a mathtest.
And the people that were good atmath, I.
(19:15):
The way that it was a computergenerated is then they get, as
they got a right answer, theyget harder and harder and harder
questions.
And the other people thatweren't as good as math, they
just got pretty basic math andthey scored in 80%.
The people that were really goodat math scored in 80%.
So then everybody gets theirpaper back, their test back, and
(19:39):
the people that have a.
They had a fixed mindset becausethey know they're already
intelligent.
They just go, oh, 80%, and theyjust threw it back down.
And the people that got an 80%that weren't as good as math
each group was asked, Hey, doyou wanna know what questions
you got wrong?
The people with the fixedmindset.
(20:00):
They said, no, we don't.
I don't wanna know.
And the people with the growthmindset that weren't as good as
math, they go, yeah, I wannaknow.
I wanna know which one I gotwrong so I can learn how to do
it.
That was pretty cool.
Yeah so that all boiled downthis week as an example for me
is my friend Juve that workshere at the farm, his daughter
Heidi said, I wanna be an actor.
(20:21):
And I just found out this year.
So anyway, I found this class onSaturdays at the Woodford
Theater, and it started lastSaturday.
It started yesterday.
So I just found this, found,discovered this like last
Wednesday.
And there and there was thisopportunity in these different
classes and Heidi said, no, Ican't sing, so I don't wanna, I
(20:42):
don't wanna do the musicaltheater, but, so then the 9:00
AM to 10:00 AM class I.
For people in middle school thatwas canceled.
They didn't have enough people.
And when I talked to the personin charge, they said, oh, she
will love this musical theaterclass.
The teacher is so good.
I said, but she said she can'tsing.
They said she won't have to doany solos.
(21:04):
She can sing with other people.
And so I told Heidi I said, yougotta go to the 11 to 1230.
Musical theater.
She goes, oh no, I can't sing.
She's texting me.
And she does that.
She does the repetition of
Delbert (21:18):
You know how she's talking'cause she's.
In it
Hess (21:21):
yeah.
Delbert (21:21):
I love it.
Hess (21:22):
Oh, no, I can't sing.
And I said,
Delbert (21:26):
on the No.
Hess (21:27):
yeah and I said, look, you don't have to sing solo.
You can sing with other people.
It's supposed to be really good.
And she said.
Okay,
Delbert (21:40):
A-A-A-A-A-A-Y.
Okay.
Hess (21:42):
So Delbert.
Yesterday at one o'clock, I'mdriving to Louisville, see my
mom and I get this text and it'sjust so cute to get a text from
a 12-year-old.
I get this text, she says, yeah,okay.
It's at one 14.
Hey, Jesse.
Just to update you.
It was amazing.
I absolutely loved it.
(22:03):
We did a bit of, we did a bit ofsinging.
We also did a dance with thesong.
It was very fun.
Thank you so much.
She's in a growth mindset.
She's in a growth mindset.
Yeah.
Delbert (22:18):
Oh, that's beautiful.
That's so great that you openedthat up for her.
Just
Hess (22:23):
Planted a seed.
Delbert (22:24):
up and she goes in and grows.
Yeah.
Hess (22:26):
Oh man, man, she's just gonna be like those rows of
pasture renovation out there.
I can recall our classmate, shewas a year ahead of us, Nell
Pierce.
She told me I can't sing, and itjust stuck in my head.
That's no good.
Don't want to hear that.
Delbert (22:45):
let's sing in the shower.
Hess (22:47):
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a fixed mindset.
Yeah.
And I was talking to Heidi'slittle brother, to Heidi's big
brother yesterday morning, and Isaid, Hadie said she don't want
to, she don't want to do it'cause she can't sing.
He goes, she sings all the timeat home.
So boom, so cool.
So cool.
And she risked it.
She risked it, she did it.
(23:08):
I'm so proud of her.
She's amazing.
Delbert (23:11):
took a lot of bravery too.
Hess (23:12):
Yeah.
I think the way that you wake upin the morning when you do your
Goldie ha stretch, that's a wayto wake up and to be positive
and look forward to something,and you trying to find the
sunrise and those kind ofthings.
What, tell us more about theGoldie Ha stretch.
Delbert (23:28):
It is just something that I watch a lot of videos of,
just self-improvement andGoldie, Han's got some kind of
program she does for children.
for the emotional and I, I don'tknow how it's a certain way of
learning that she's got like a,some kind of program for that
she was just talking about that,but first she was talking about
(23:50):
the way she woke up in themorning and she just, takes a
real deep breath and she gets.
flowing to all of her limbs.
So she'll stretch her arms andher legs and then she opens her
eyes really slow.
And if I don't do that in themorning, I'm like, shoot, forgot
my Goldie hand stretch because Ilike to open it.
(24:10):
It is nice to wake up like thatand just open your eyes really
slow and take a deep breath in.
Just gets you ready.
It's a way to ease into it.
and it just sets the pace Just areally good day.
So
Hess (24:25):
Beautiful.
Delbert (24:26):
remember to do that.
Yeah, it's just a, and it's justa little thing, but I'll have to
look that up along with theconcentration camp that my my
papa liberated.
I'll look both of those up fornext time.
Friends, I'm sorry, I Didn'tknow we were gonna talk about
it, but Yeah.
She's really into, justmindfulness and wellness of your
(24:48):
mind and learning.
So I just love that about herand I love all her movies.
If I'm ever sad, I watchOverboard.
I love that movie.
Hess (25:00):
So that gets you back up in the upward spiral.
Delbert (25:02):
it gets me back up.
Yeah.
Leanne Morgan, Goldie HaKathleen Madigan.
I love when Kathleen Madigansays the nuns told her not to
bother Jesus.
Bother your guardian angel,she's there 24 7 You with all
your personal needs.
If your guardian angel can'thelp go to the saint of that
particular, she's so funny.
(25:23):
I
Hess (25:24):
Yeah.
Delbert (25:24):
And
Hess (25:25):
Yeah.
Delbert (25:25):
grew up Catholic, she's even funnier.
And I'm, we talked about that.
Having our guardian angels, onceI learned about cheerleading, I
had mine just sit on myshoulders in school, I would
just picture my angel sitting upon my shoulders.
Hess (25:37):
One, one of my clients re listening to Mel Robbins, said
that the, one of the good tipsshe got from Mel Robbins is to
give herself a high five in themirror in the morning, and I
gotta get in the habit of doingthat.
Delbert (25:48):
that's good.
Oh, I That.
Yeah,
Hess (25:51):
yeah.
Positive reflection of yourself,believing in yourself.
We got this.
Yeah.
Delbert (25:58):
have this.
Hess (26:00):
Yeah.
And Mel has a big thing now.
Mel Robbins is this thing aboutlet them, and a lot of people
are getting that tattooed on'em.
I'm not into tattoos, but Iappreciate beautiful tattoos,
but let them just being able tolet go the reaction of something
that's bothering you orsomething that's done to you.
Let them, and then that's, thenthe important part is then to
(26:21):
say, then let me, what can I dothen?
Delbert (26:25):
about that last week.
Yeah, just let it go.
And that's when you've letthings go, you're expanding and
it's pushing that drill up outof the ground, right?
It's undoing the spiral when youlet it go.
And let, just let them do it.
Let me work on myself over here.
Hess (26:41):
Yeah.
Delbert (26:42):
good things I can do.
Hess (26:44):
Yeah.
Yeah, so everybody, you,everybody has the potential to
do all of these things.
And it's just us chain harrowingthe fields before the renovating
pasture we renovated thepastures with the seed drill is
you're fertile.
You're, you're ready.
Get your ground ready to be ableto do the spiral up and move to
joy.
Delbert (27:05):
Whether it's, planting some flowers or looking out at
the sunrise or sunset, beingwith your friends if you're
feeling down, I.
Go out, take a walk, call yourfriends, have a cup of coffee,
sit and watch the sunset andhave a glass of wine.
It'll help you out of thatspiral.
Hess (27:25):
Yeah, everybody, I want you to, I want to thank you all
so much for joining ourconversation.
I feel so much better right nowbefore I started, and I hope you
do too.
Every Sunday.
We'll put a new episode out.
Please give us a review,subscribe, share it with a
friend, and this beautiful songthat Carla Gover wrote on our on
(27:47):
our intro and outro.
So beautiful.
Carla Gover.
She's making a new album.
Anyway, everybody, we love you.
Please share.
Delbert (27:55):
Peace and love everybody.
We hope you find a beautifulsunrise and a beautiful sunset.
We love you friends.
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