July 27, 2025 • 27 mins
This morning on our Sunday chat, Hess and Delbert add onto last weeks podcast that was on Imagination—what can come next is possibilities. When we sit with what is, and are able to feel it, we can think of new ways things could be. We can see opportunities of changing something, doing something new, or even just looking at it in a new way. It begins with wondering, being with it, focusing, then moving into creativity. We change things for ourselves in our own personal world. We can change things that would be good for others also. Surround yourself with people who are positive, that tell you they believe in you. Give yourself the creative space to focus in. Then act and move to the implementation of possibilities. Hess gives a salute to the life of Andrea Gibson, the poet laureate of Colorado, who just passed away from a long fight with cancer on July 14th. In her messages and poems she often gave us the possibility of looking at challenges in a new light.
I am still collecting for José's cancer treatments. We are awaiting the next CT Scans that will tell you where he is after his second round of treatments. Thank you for your continued support!
https://gofund.me/e6f61999
In addition to being a podcast host, Hess is also an LCSW--if you'd like to learn more about her work as a therapist, check it out at www.jessicabollinger.com
One of her mission's is for all of our lights to shine--when we see each other and allow ourself to be seen--and we can say to the person in front of us, There You Are! the world will be an amazing place!
Delbert is a top realtor in Louisville, KY, and you can find her at Kentucky Select Properties She will help you find your home, and also help you get the most equity when you sell your house.
Her philanthropic work to continue her sister Carole and niece Meghan is Carole's Kitchen. Blessings in a Backpack helps feed the many hungry students in our schools. The instagram account is: https://www.instagram.com/caroleskitchen.nonprofit?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==
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Hess (00:00):
Welcome everybody.
(00:01):
Thank you for joining us on ourSunday morning chat.
My name is Hess.
I'm talking to you fromLexington, Kentucky at Carriage
Station Farm.
Sitting in my white chairlooking out my window at the
asparagus growing up, and I'vealready picked the Red Tomatoes,
so I don't see any.
Where are you at Delbert?
Delbert (00:21):
As always, I'm on the green couch here in Louisville,
Kentucky.
I know you think, I always sayit's a beautiful day, but it is
another beautiful summer day inLouisville.
Just got back from the GoldenIsles St.
Simon, little St.
Simon and Jekyll Island, so Idid get off the green couch this
(00:42):
week.
Everybody, just so you know.
Hess (00:45):
Yeah.
On Delbert, I said, how'd thedrive go about coming back home?
She's a realtor and she didn'thave anybody riding in the car
with her.
And so she'd have to like, pulloff the road and do some follow
ups and make some calls and allkinds of stuff.
Like they say, when you do thatlittle, is my destination and it
says it's gonna take 10 hours.
That doesn't include gas, itdoesn't include any any walking
(01:09):
stops.
And it does not include callingyour clients and calling
repairmen.
Delbert (01:14):
It doesn't include working contracts or trying to
walk off your trucker hip
Hess (01:21):
Yeah.
So welcome back home, Delbert,glad you're on the green couch.
Glad you had a great time withyour family.
Delbert (01:26):
the golden aisles to back to the green couch.
Here I am.
Yeah.
Hess (01:30):
The golden Isles, I never knew that it was called Golden
Isles.
Delbert (01:33):
They're so pretty.
Ev There's something that grows,in the low part, the low country
part of those islands, and it'slike amber.
It just gives off this beautifulgolden amber cast to everything.
And I drove over the marinaduring sunset when I was getting
there.
It was just, oh, it wasspectacular.
Just beautiful.
(01:54):
Just beautiful.
I got to go with my darlingsociety and my oldest daughter
and son-in-law and we just hadsuch a great time and got back
and had more work to do.
But I got up this morning andI'm so excited about our topic
because it's a continuation ofour imagination.
Conversation about creatingpossibilities.
Hess (02:19):
So was thinking about that Delbert, like when we use our
imagination, it, then I feellike then the next thing that
happens is it opens uppossibilities.
So I'm a glass half full personand I know that you are too
Delbert, and so what makes mefeel good in my heart?
(02:41):
Is the possibilities of goodthings to happen having good
things happen.
And so that's what we'd like totalk about in our Sunday morning
chat today.
Food for Thought aboutpossibility.
Delbert (02:56):
And so one of the things that you need to.
Get your imagination and your,and the things that you wanna
dream about for the future.
Possibilities.
You need focus and dedication.
So if you're dreaming aboutsomething and you really want
something, no matter how smallit is, just get you a little
(03:17):
list out.
And just start writing a plan.
And honestly, I hate when peoplesay, oh, I can't do that.
Really trust yourself, believein yourself, and write it down
and just start focusing on whatare some little bitty small ways
that I can bring this closer toa reality.
Hess (03:39):
And you're using this little recipe, Delbert wonder
and creativity, being able towonder about it.
You're thinking about it.
How could I turn it around thisway?
Or how could I turn it aroundthat way?
And comes out from where we arenow to what we think could
(04:02):
happen.
So you're doing things like innew paradigms.
I wanna give you all, I wannagive you all a life experience
of my own to ground this thoughtthat I'm having right now.
Would that be okay?
Delbert (04:14):
Sure.
Let's hear.
Hess (04:17):
so I'm graduating from college December of 1980.
to say 1980'cause that wouldmake you think that I graduated
in four years, but really it wasfour and a half.
so I have my resume.
My dad says, what are you gonnado?
Your resume looks like you're afree spirit.
'cause I had on there riding mybike across, riding a tandem
(04:40):
bicycle across the country.
'cause I thought that wouldshow.
Future employers that I haddedication.
Anyway, dad says, what are yougonna do?
Delbert (04:51):
I am impressed by the way, so I would hire you.
Hess (04:55):
Dad, my dad reads my resume.
He says, what are you gonna do?
And I said dad, I thinkLexington needs a fruit market,
so this is what I wannahighlight here.
And take a yellow highlighter.
And.
I like this Dad's reply to mesaying, I think Lexington needs
a fruit market.
My dad said, look into it.
(05:17):
Boom.
What a, what?
A beautiful reply back tosomebody's idea, which opens up
the possibility.
It doesn't get stopped.
Had a good friend growing up,really good friend.
Her dad's a psychiatrist.
She would have some idea and hewould go oh, and do that.
Reply one of her ideas.
(05:39):
But my dad goes, we'll look intoit and.
That created and that opened uppossibility.
Then I go talk to somebody inLouisville that's in the fruit
market business.
That's my next conversation.
I go talk to Earl Thieneman.
I say, Earl, I'm thinking aboutmy name's, and I just graduated.
I'm up in Lexington.
(06:00):
I'm thinking about a fruitmarket in Lexington.
He goes, if I was your age rightnow, I'd be up there right now
at the fruit market.
And so the positiveness aroundthat.
Positive possibility, right?
Pretty similar words thatfeedback that I got helped stay
helped that possibility open up.
(06:21):
I didn't have the door shut.
Delbert (06:22):
Exactly,
Hess (06:24):
it's important with possibilities is not to have the
door shut.
Delbert (06:29):
and I think, one of the, one of the things that you
need to hear in your life,especially your young life, is
that you're valuable, that yourideas are good.
And that you can become theauthor of your own story
Hess (06:48):
Love that.
Delbert (06:49):
your dad was giving you the power to do that.
And that's so beautiful.
Hess (06:53):
What's that?
What's that line in the movie?
The Help.
Where the nanny would tell thelittle girl use is beautiful,
use is, good,
Delbert (07:02):
You as Kind, you as smart, you as important.
Hess (07:05):
you is, kind, you is smart, use is important, so that
little child felt like she hadpossibility.
Delbert (07:11):
She knew that she was important and that she could do
the right things in her life andwow.
What?
Just validation.
She was given the littlechildren that she was raising.
She did that with all of them.
She said, I love that book.
If that comes on tv.
That movie I, I watch it.
It's like
Hess (07:30):
sure
Delbert (07:30):
for me it's like Overboard, Tootsie or Tommy Boy.
Like those are my core.
Yeah.
Hess (07:36):
makes you feel
Delbert (07:37):
Gotta watch'em.
Yeah.
Hess (07:39):
So Delbert on still talking about the fruit market.
There weren't any fruit marketsin Lexington.
think about this.
This is important and I neverthought about it this way.
That difference is the root ofthe possible.
So I saw that something could bedifferent for Lexington,
Delbert (07:57):
Yeah,
Hess (07:58):
have
Delbert (07:59):
exactly.
Hess (08:00):
And some people that I'd tell, and my my, my parents had
a good friend up here inLexington, Mary Hensley.
And I told Mary Hensley aboutthe fruit market and she goes,
oh, we got the farmer's market.
And I tell other people, oh, wegot the farmer's market, but I
saw that a regular fruit marketis different than a farmer's
market.
(08:21):
And we'd be open every day.
Delbert (08:22):
Yeah.
Hess (08:23):
eighty items versus three items.
And so difference really is thekey to possible because we see
that something could bedifferent and we think we could
see ourselves doing something ormaybe changing the way
something's done.
That could be that could bebetter.
A new paradigm.
(08:44):
Yeah.
So it leads to a differentperspective, right?
Delbert (08:49):
Absolutely.
Yes.
It's and how many years did youhave that successful fruit
market?
Hess (08:56):
15
Delbert (08:57):
Wow.
And did you sit down with a penand paper and you formulated all
your research and you.
Hess (09:05):
No, it was still, it was just an idea and then thinking
about the possibilities and thendoing the next positive step to
make it happen.
Yeah, no I didn't break it alldown on paper.
I was fortunate that I was ableto.
I a lien on an apartmentbuilding that my dad had given
(09:27):
our, the kids, and I was able totake a lien on that and borrow
against it and buy the property,build a building put a big
walk-in, cooler in, get a truck.
And I was able to pay all thatoff like in three years.
Delbert (09:42):
That's awesome.
I'm a pen to paper kind of gal.
Hess (09:47):
That's good.
That's good.
We need you.
We need you.
Delbert (09:51):
I write it all down every day.
Yeah.
Hess (09:53):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So possibility and They're the,they're numerous.
Once we decide to act and notreact, George Bernard Shaw said
that the possibilities arenumerous once we decide to act
and not react.
so my dad's positive feedbackhelped me act more than react
(10:17):
and think, oh, okay, I guess Iwon't do this.
Yeah.
Delbert (10:22):
So you were focused on it.
Hess (10:24):
Yeah.
Delbert (10:24):
The important things about focus is to make sure you
get plenty of rest, Avoiddistractions.
Practice mindfulness ormeditate.
And we talked about mindfulnessas a superpower.
Really just to sit and bepresent.
And that's when you're, whenyou're rested and you're not
(10:47):
worried about something else,or, you take time to take
yourself out of other situationsthat can take away your focus
from what you really areplanning.
And exercise.
And then also, I'm really badabout being hard on myself.
When I take breaks, I really I'mtrying to be better about it,
(11:10):
but I'm really hard on myselfabout that.
Give yourself breaks, breakthings up into smaller tasks so
you can feel like you can checkthat off.
And it's really nice if you canhave a dedicated workspace.
Now I do have an office in myhouse, but I don't use it.
It's more like just storage forall my files.
(11:32):
And I love to work looking outthe big window.
It's where we do our podcast.
It's where I write downeverything.
I've got my little novenacandles here and and.
Once I'm done working I packeverything up and put it in my
office.
Where, my company comes over andloves to sit, I call it the
conversation area.
(11:52):
It's two big green couchesfacing each other.
I guess I compartmentalize thegreen couch and make it a space,
but whatever it is, you don'thave to have a dedicated space
that the point is, and here's mypoint you can make yourself a
dedicated space just.
Anywhere, at your kitchen table,just anywhere.
Hess (12:13):
A, a place where you feel good, where you feel expansive,
where you can feel creative,where you can bring in the
positive, where you can sit withthe mindfulness,
Delbert (12:22):
Exactly.
Hess (12:25):
Super well.
There's the possibility of anoffice expansion for you,
Delbert.
Where for in your definition ofoffice, in your home.
It's the place where you haveyour files.
It's not the place where you sitto
Delbert (12:37):
Right,
Hess (12:38):
office is where your files are and your creativity and your
work takes place in the place.
That feels really good to you.
Delbert (12:47):
exactly.
Hess (12:49):
I love that.
I love that.
I love that.
And so also possibility,Delbert, thanks a lot for saying
the things that, the focus, theintention, the mindfulness, the
being around shut down anynegative put down thoughts that
you're having your own brain bearound people that will support
(13:11):
the possibilities.
That's really good.
And so we need that good voicein our head.
We need to be able to look atthe challenges and see them as
opportunities, right?
Instead of obstacles, right?
Delbert (13:23):
And if you're not, if you don't have a really
supportive dad like Hess did,surround yourself with good
people, you deserve that in yourlife.
And so go find your villagethat's supportive.
Go out and find it because onceyou get focused and you make
your plan, then you need to bededicated to it.
You need to come back to it on aregular basis, right?
(13:44):
You need to
Hess (13:45):
Right.
Delbert (13:46):
have that dedication, like being a basketball player.
Go and practice that shot everysingle day.
Keep going, keep doing yourfundamentals.
Hess (13:54):
Yeah.
Delbert (13:55):
Everyone can do that.
Everyone can do that.
It's not you, every single oneof us has the power to create
change in our lives.
Hess (14:07):
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And so this is personal.
The small changes we could makein our life.
That could be.
And what makes it successful isit's for your, it's for the good
of yourself and others.
Okay.
Yeah.
And so that is really cool andwe all can do that.
I love that Delbert, weencourage you all to all do that
(14:30):
is what are the possibilities inyour life?
And use your imagination, seethem, and then move towards
making that a reality.
It's a new, it's a newperspective.
It's a new paradigm.
There's no reason why thatparadigm.
Can't be successful.
And sometimes, like in, ininventions and so forth, you
(14:53):
have to even look at it adifferent way or call it
something different.
I was reading an article Delbertabout low income housing and
what do we need to do to helperadicate homelessness.
Instead of saying homelessness,it's instead of, call it low
income housing, call itaffordable housing.
Delbert (15:12):
Yeah.
All that comes from alegislative, all the thing, all
the things that need changereally.
I need to be focused on bringingpeople up instead of pushing
people down.
That's all legislative.
Yeah.
I love that.
Our gov, speaking of that, ourgovernor just approved, three
(15:34):
different areas and I don't knowwhere they are just yet.
I just saw the headline and itdidn't give specifics on in the
article, but we're investing inaffordable housing in Kentucky,
three different sites.
I'll be excited to see wherethey're gonna be.
Hess (15:50):
Love that.
Love
Delbert (15:52):
Yeah, it's, it is I think it's like 2.5 billion,
something like that.
It's a huge project.
I'll have to.
We have to make a list of thingsthat we need to do housekeeping
on so we can come back.
And
Hess (16:06):
For sure.
Delbert (16:08):
that just came to mind because I think about
possibilities and imaginationand your dad and mine.
First of all, just imaginingthese neighborhoods where
there's just land, right?
And the possibility of that.
And then actually.
Making that become a reality andpart of the imagination.
(16:30):
That's so important.
There's three parts, but thechallenging part can you imagine
the obstacles that they ranacross when they were creating a
neighborhood and they really hadto reimagine things when that
challenge came in?
Hess (16:45):
Exactly.
And it's not really a roadblock,it's not an obstacle.
It's an opportunity to
Delbert (16:51):
right, it's hidden.
It's a hidden opportunity.
So Hess, tell everyone'causethis, I thought this really went
with our topic today.
You sent me that link.
Hess (17:02):
Oh yeah, you all, we lost somebody.
That is so beautiful.
You need to look her up if youdon't already know her.
Andrea Gibson beautiful soul.
She's the poet laureate forColorado and she'd been fighting
cancer for a long time and likepart of.
Part we went along the peoplethat were in touch with her kind
(17:24):
of went along with her struggleand her journey with cancer.
And she just passed away daybefore yesterday and on one of
her is it called InstagramDelbert?
Is that what it's called?
Delbert (17:38):
Instagram.
Yeah.
Hess (17:39):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So on Instagram look her up,Andre Gibson.
She talks about She wants tomake five points.
If you're really anxious and youwanna try to not be so anxious
and not feel so much fear andanxiety, she says, challenge
yourself.
Live your life.
Do the opposite.
Move into the fear,
Delbert (18:00):
Take risk.
Take risk if you're feelingfearful.
Hess (18:05):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then the second thing is ifyou feel overwhelmed and grief
stricken she says, welcome it.
be with it.
Feel it.
Yeah.
Allow it, with the mindfulnessof it.
Yeah.
And then their third one is, ifyou ever feel in your life that
(18:25):
you're lacking.
Put attention on what you haveto give.
So if you feel lacking, putattention on what you can give.
I did that a lot.
I lived close to a an elderlyhome Delbert and if I ever felt
like I was lonely, I would.
Go to the nursing home with mydog and boom, that would knock
(18:49):
that totally outta me.
They just love the dog and allof that.
Delbert (18:53):
That's beautiful.
Hess (18:54):
if you feel lacking, give, if you ever feel like your life
is out of control, stop tryingto control it.
Release the control, and thelast one.
And it ends with love.
If you ever feel unloved love.
She said, if I ever die, I wannahave stretch marks on my heart.
Delbert (19:17):
I love that.
That's beautiful.
Love.
Hess (19:21):
Talk about how this relates to possible Delbert.
Delbert (19:26):
I think when you're stuck.
When you're stuck and you'remaybe you're even, I think
sometimes when you have fear orgrief, the t, the first two and
she says, these are allcounterintuitive to the way that
you would think about dealingwith them.
And you feel stuck.
You.
Dream about taking risk and seethe possibilities of what you
(19:47):
can do.
When you, Once you welcome thatgrief in and you sit with it,
you open yourself up to thepossibilities of going past
grief, right?
And past your fear.
And I think it's a good lessonin abundance.
You know how many possibilitiesyour life does have when you
give.
Hess (20:08):
Wow.
Yeah.
Delbert (20:10):
And when you fear, when you feel like your life's outta
control, a lot of times that'sbecause you are trying to
control every little minutething around it.
And when you let go of thatfirst of all, you free up a lot
of damn time, right?
Hess (20:26):
Yeah.
Delbert (20:27):
Let go.
Think about the endlesspossibilities that are in that
you've just given yourself halfa day back.
And then, you know what?
We're all just here on thisearth to just love love.
And the more you love, the morelove you bring into the world.
And that creates the thing thatI visualize in the morning when
(20:48):
I send that gold light out.
The possibility of a world justfilled with love, right?
Hess (20:55):
And you got that love.
You got that gold lightsurrounding you also, Delbert.
So when we love, we get morelove.
When you give out your goldlight, you have the gold light
surrounding you also.
Delbert (21:06):
Exactly.
So I just thought that you sentit to me last night.
I was too tired.
I had a lot of work facing mewhen I got back Friday.
And then yesterday I spent theday just catching up on
everything.
And so you sent that to me and Iwas like, I will read that in
the morning'cause I'm so tired.
Hess (21:22):
Yeah.
Delbert (21:22):
but anyway I just thought it was perfect.
I got up and.
Listened to it first thing thismorning and it was a great way
to start the day.
So I hope it helps you podstersand hope we got you thinking
about ways to, just be theauthor of your own story.
Have the power to create changein your life if you want it and
(21:43):
use that big, beautifulimagination that you have.
To help
Hess (21:48):
create the
Delbert (21:49):
the world in the universe.
Hess (21:50):
I love how you ta all this into abundance, Delbert, and.
Okay, everybody think aboutpossibilities.
Zig Ziglar says, when you lookat the possibilities instead of
the problems, future is filledwith endless opportunities.
Delbert (22:08):
Yes.
I love Zig Zigler.
He's got a lot of good ones.
Hess (22:11):
Yeah.
right, y'all, thanks so much forjoining us on our Sunday morning
chat this morning, and move intopossibilities.
Delbert (22:21):
Absolutely.
We love you friends.
We hope you have a wonderfulweek filled with beautiful
imagination and possibilities.
Hess (22:31):
Peace and love.
Delbert (22:32):
Peace and love.
Welcome everybody.
(00:01):
Thank you for joining us on ourSunday morning chat.
My name is Hess.
I'm talking to you fromLexington, Kentucky at Carriage
Station Farm.
Sitting in my white chairlooking out my window at the
asparagus growing up, and I'vealready picked the Red Tomatoes,
so I don't see any.
Where are you at Delbert?
Delbert (00:21):
As always, I'm on the green couch here in Louisville,
Kentucky.
I know you think, I always sayit's a beautiful day, but it is
another beautiful summer day inLouisville.
Just got back from the GoldenIsles St.
Simon, little St.
Simon and Jekyll Island, so Idid get off the green couch this
(00:42):
week.
Everybody, just so you know.
Hess (00:45):
Yeah.
On Delbert, I said, how'd thedrive go about coming back home?
She's a realtor and she didn'thave anybody riding in the car
with her.
And so she'd have to like, pulloff the road and do some follow
ups and make some calls and allkinds of stuff.
Like they say, when you do thatlittle, is my destination and it
says it's gonna take 10 hours.
That doesn't include gas, itdoesn't include any any walking
(01:09):
stops.
And it does not include callingyour clients and calling
repairmen.
Delbert (01:14):
It doesn't include working contracts or trying to
walk off your trucker hip
Hess (01:21):
Yeah.
So welcome back home, Delbert,glad you're on the green couch.
Glad you had a great time withyour family.
Delbert (01:26):
the golden aisles to back to the green couch.
Here I am.
Yeah.
Hess (01:30):
The golden Isles, I never knew that it was called Golden
Isles.
Delbert (01:33):
They're so pretty.
Ev There's something that grows,in the low part, the low country
part of those islands, and it'slike amber.
It just gives off this beautifulgolden amber cast to everything.
And I drove over the marinaduring sunset when I was getting
there.
It was just, oh, it wasspectacular.
Just beautiful.
(01:54):
Just beautiful.
I got to go with my darlingsociety and my oldest daughter
and son-in-law and we just hadsuch a great time and got back
and had more work to do.
But I got up this morning andI'm so excited about our topic
because it's a continuation ofour imagination.
Conversation about creatingpossibilities.
Hess (02:19):
So was thinking about that Delbert, like when we use our
imagination, it, then I feellike then the next thing that
happens is it opens uppossibilities.
So I'm a glass half full personand I know that you are too
Delbert, and so what makes mefeel good in my heart?
(02:41):
Is the possibilities of goodthings to happen having good
things happen.
And so that's what we'd like totalk about in our Sunday morning
chat today.
Food for Thought aboutpossibility.
Delbert (02:56):
And so one of the things that you need to.
Get your imagination and your,and the things that you wanna
dream about for the future.
Possibilities.
You need focus and dedication.
So if you're dreaming aboutsomething and you really want
something, no matter how smallit is, just get you a little
(03:17):
list out.
And just start writing a plan.
And honestly, I hate when peoplesay, oh, I can't do that.
Really trust yourself, believein yourself, and write it down
and just start focusing on whatare some little bitty small ways
that I can bring this closer toa reality.
Hess (03:39):
And you're using this little recipe, Delbert wonder
and creativity, being able towonder about it.
You're thinking about it.
How could I turn it around thisway?
Or how could I turn it aroundthat way?
And comes out from where we arenow to what we think could
(04:02):
happen.
So you're doing things like innew paradigms.
I wanna give you all, I wannagive you all a life experience
of my own to ground this thoughtthat I'm having right now.
Would that be okay?
Delbert (04:14):
Sure.
Let's hear.
Hess (04:17):
so I'm graduating from college December of 1980.
to say 1980'cause that wouldmake you think that I graduated
in four years, but really it wasfour and a half.
so I have my resume.
My dad says, what are you gonnado?
Your resume looks like you're afree spirit.
'cause I had on there riding mybike across, riding a tandem
(04:40):
bicycle across the country.
'cause I thought that wouldshow.
Future employers that I haddedication.
Anyway, dad says, what are yougonna do?
Delbert (04:51):
I am impressed by the way, so I would hire you.
Hess (04:55):
Dad, my dad reads my resume.
He says, what are you gonna do?
And I said dad, I thinkLexington needs a fruit market,
so this is what I wannahighlight here.
And take a yellow highlighter.
And.
I like this Dad's reply to mesaying, I think Lexington needs
a fruit market.
My dad said, look into it.
(05:17):
Boom.
What a, what?
A beautiful reply back tosomebody's idea, which opens up
the possibility.
It doesn't get stopped.
Had a good friend growing up,really good friend.
Her dad's a psychiatrist.
She would have some idea and hewould go oh, and do that.
Reply one of her ideas.
(05:39):
But my dad goes, we'll look intoit and.
That created and that opened uppossibility.
Then I go talk to somebody inLouisville that's in the fruit
market business.
That's my next conversation.
I go talk to Earl Thieneman.
I say, Earl, I'm thinking aboutmy name's, and I just graduated.
I'm up in Lexington.
(06:00):
I'm thinking about a fruitmarket in Lexington.
He goes, if I was your age rightnow, I'd be up there right now
at the fruit market.
And so the positiveness aroundthat.
Positive possibility, right?
Pretty similar words thatfeedback that I got helped stay
helped that possibility open up.
(06:21):
I didn't have the door shut.
Delbert (06:22):
Exactly,
Hess (06:24):
it's important with possibilities is not to have the
door shut.
Delbert (06:29):
and I think, one of the, one of the things that you
need to hear in your life,especially your young life, is
that you're valuable, that yourideas are good.
And that you can become theauthor of your own story
Hess (06:48):
Love that.
Delbert (06:49):
your dad was giving you the power to do that.
And that's so beautiful.
Hess (06:53):
What's that?
What's that line in the movie?
The Help.
Where the nanny would tell thelittle girl use is beautiful,
use is, good,
Delbert (07:02):
You as Kind, you as smart, you as important.
Hess (07:05):
you is, kind, you is smart, use is important, so that
little child felt like she hadpossibility.
Delbert (07:11):
She knew that she was important and that she could do
the right things in her life andwow.
What?
Just validation.
She was given the littlechildren that she was raising.
She did that with all of them.
She said, I love that book.
If that comes on tv.
That movie I, I watch it.
It's like
Hess (07:30):
sure
Delbert (07:30):
for me it's like Overboard, Tootsie or Tommy Boy.
Like those are my core.
Yeah.
Hess (07:36):
makes you feel
Delbert (07:37):
Gotta watch'em.
Yeah.
Hess (07:39):
So Delbert on still talking about the fruit market.
There weren't any fruit marketsin Lexington.
think about this.
This is important and I neverthought about it this way.
That difference is the root ofthe possible.
So I saw that something could bedifferent for Lexington,
Delbert (07:57):
Yeah,
Hess (07:58):
have
Delbert (07:59):
exactly.
Hess (08:00):
And some people that I'd tell, and my my, my parents had
a good friend up here inLexington, Mary Hensley.
And I told Mary Hensley aboutthe fruit market and she goes,
oh, we got the farmer's market.
And I tell other people, oh, wegot the farmer's market, but I
saw that a regular fruit marketis different than a farmer's
market.
(08:21):
And we'd be open every day.
Delbert (08:22):
Yeah.
Hess (08:23):
eighty items versus three items.
And so difference really is thekey to possible because we see
that something could bedifferent and we think we could
see ourselves doing something ormaybe changing the way
something's done.
That could be that could bebetter.
A new paradigm.
(08:44):
Yeah.
So it leads to a differentperspective, right?
Delbert (08:49):
Absolutely.
Yes.
It's and how many years did youhave that successful fruit
market?
Hess (08:56):
15
Delbert (08:57):
Wow.
And did you sit down with a penand paper and you formulated all
your research and you.
Hess (09:05):
No, it was still, it was just an idea and then thinking
about the possibilities and thendoing the next positive step to
make it happen.
Yeah, no I didn't break it alldown on paper.
I was fortunate that I was ableto.
I a lien on an apartmentbuilding that my dad had given
(09:27):
our, the kids, and I was able totake a lien on that and borrow
against it and buy the property,build a building put a big
walk-in, cooler in, get a truck.
And I was able to pay all thatoff like in three years.
Delbert (09:42):
That's awesome.
I'm a pen to paper kind of gal.
Hess (09:47):
That's good.
That's good.
We need you.
We need you.
Delbert (09:51):
I write it all down every day.
Yeah.
Hess (09:53):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So possibility and They're the,they're numerous.
Once we decide to act and notreact, George Bernard Shaw said
that the possibilities arenumerous once we decide to act
and not react.
so my dad's positive feedbackhelped me act more than react
(10:17):
and think, oh, okay, I guess Iwon't do this.
Yeah.
Delbert (10:22):
So you were focused on it.
Hess (10:24):
Yeah.
Delbert (10:24):
The important things about focus is to make sure you
get plenty of rest, Avoiddistractions.
Practice mindfulness ormeditate.
And we talked about mindfulnessas a superpower.
Really just to sit and bepresent.
And that's when you're, whenyou're rested and you're not
(10:47):
worried about something else,or, you take time to take
yourself out of other situationsthat can take away your focus
from what you really areplanning.
And exercise.
And then also, I'm really badabout being hard on myself.
When I take breaks, I really I'mtrying to be better about it,
(11:10):
but I'm really hard on myselfabout that.
Give yourself breaks, breakthings up into smaller tasks so
you can feel like you can checkthat off.
And it's really nice if you canhave a dedicated workspace.
Now I do have an office in myhouse, but I don't use it.
It's more like just storage forall my files.
(11:32):
And I love to work looking outthe big window.
It's where we do our podcast.
It's where I write downeverything.
I've got my little novenacandles here and and.
Once I'm done working I packeverything up and put it in my
office.
Where, my company comes over andloves to sit, I call it the
conversation area.
(11:52):
It's two big green couchesfacing each other.
I guess I compartmentalize thegreen couch and make it a space,
but whatever it is, you don'thave to have a dedicated space
that the point is, and here's mypoint you can make yourself a
dedicated space just.
Anywhere, at your kitchen table,just anywhere.
Hess (12:13):
A, a place where you feel good, where you feel expansive,
where you can feel creative,where you can bring in the
positive, where you can sit withthe mindfulness,
Delbert (12:22):
Exactly.
Hess (12:25):
Super well.
There's the possibility of anoffice expansion for you,
Delbert.
Where for in your definition ofoffice, in your home.
It's the place where you haveyour files.
It's not the place where you sitto
Delbert (12:37):
Right,
Hess (12:38):
office is where your files are and your creativity and your
work takes place in the place.
That feels really good to you.
Delbert (12:47):
exactly.
Hess (12:49):
I love that.
I love that.
I love that.
And so also possibility,Delbert, thanks a lot for saying
the things that, the focus, theintention, the mindfulness, the
being around shut down anynegative put down thoughts that
you're having your own brain bearound people that will support
(13:11):
the possibilities.
That's really good.
And so we need that good voicein our head.
We need to be able to look atthe challenges and see them as
opportunities, right?
Instead of obstacles, right?
Delbert (13:23):
And if you're not, if you don't have a really
supportive dad like Hess did,surround yourself with good
people, you deserve that in yourlife.
And so go find your villagethat's supportive.
Go out and find it because onceyou get focused and you make
your plan, then you need to bededicated to it.
You need to come back to it on aregular basis, right?
(13:44):
You need to
Hess (13:45):
Right.
Delbert (13:46):
have that dedication, like being a basketball player.
Go and practice that shot everysingle day.
Keep going, keep doing yourfundamentals.
Hess (13:54):
Yeah.
Delbert (13:55):
Everyone can do that.
Everyone can do that.
It's not you, every single oneof us has the power to create
change in our lives.
Hess (14:07):
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And so this is personal.
The small changes we could makein our life.
That could be.
And what makes it successful isit's for your, it's for the good
of yourself and others.
Okay.
Yeah.
And so that is really cool andwe all can do that.
I love that Delbert, weencourage you all to all do that
(14:30):
is what are the possibilities inyour life?
And use your imagination, seethem, and then move towards
making that a reality.
It's a new, it's a newperspective.
It's a new paradigm.
There's no reason why thatparadigm.
Can't be successful.
And sometimes, like in, ininventions and so forth, you
(14:53):
have to even look at it adifferent way or call it
something different.
I was reading an article Delbertabout low income housing and
what do we need to do to helperadicate homelessness.
Instead of saying homelessness,it's instead of, call it low
income housing, call itaffordable housing.
Delbert (15:12):
Yeah.
All that comes from alegislative, all the thing, all
the things that need changereally.
I need to be focused on bringingpeople up instead of pushing
people down.
That's all legislative.
Yeah.
I love that.
Our gov, speaking of that, ourgovernor just approved, three
(15:34):
different areas and I don't knowwhere they are just yet.
I just saw the headline and itdidn't give specifics on in the
article, but we're investing inaffordable housing in Kentucky,
three different sites.
I'll be excited to see wherethey're gonna be.
Hess (15:50):
Love that.
Love
Delbert (15:52):
Yeah, it's, it is I think it's like 2.5 billion,
something like that.
It's a huge project.
I'll have to.
We have to make a list of thingsthat we need to do housekeeping
on so we can come back.
And
Hess (16:06):
For sure.
Delbert (16:08):
that just came to mind because I think about
possibilities and imaginationand your dad and mine.
First of all, just imaginingthese neighborhoods where
there's just land, right?
And the possibility of that.
And then actually.
Making that become a reality andpart of the imagination.
(16:30):
That's so important.
There's three parts, but thechallenging part can you imagine
the obstacles that they ranacross when they were creating a
neighborhood and they really hadto reimagine things when that
challenge came in?
Hess (16:45):
Exactly.
And it's not really a roadblock,it's not an obstacle.
It's an opportunity to
Delbert (16:51):
right, it's hidden.
It's a hidden opportunity.
So Hess, tell everyone'causethis, I thought this really went
with our topic today.
You sent me that link.
Hess (17:02):
Oh yeah, you all, we lost somebody.
That is so beautiful.
You need to look her up if youdon't already know her.
Andrea Gibson beautiful soul.
She's the poet laureate forColorado and she'd been fighting
cancer for a long time and likepart of.
Part we went along the peoplethat were in touch with her kind
(17:24):
of went along with her struggleand her journey with cancer.
And she just passed away daybefore yesterday and on one of
her is it called InstagramDelbert?
Is that what it's called?
Delbert (17:38):
Instagram.
Yeah.
Hess (17:39):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So on Instagram look her up,Andre Gibson.
She talks about She wants tomake five points.
If you're really anxious and youwanna try to not be so anxious
and not feel so much fear andanxiety, she says, challenge
yourself.
Live your life.
Do the opposite.
Move into the fear,
Delbert (18:00):
Take risk.
Take risk if you're feelingfearful.
Hess (18:05):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then the second thing is ifyou feel overwhelmed and grief
stricken she says, welcome it.
be with it.
Feel it.
Yeah.
Allow it, with the mindfulnessof it.
Yeah.
And then their third one is, ifyou ever feel in your life that
(18:25):
you're lacking.
Put attention on what you haveto give.
So if you feel lacking, putattention on what you can give.
I did that a lot.
I lived close to a an elderlyhome Delbert and if I ever felt
like I was lonely, I would.
Go to the nursing home with mydog and boom, that would knock
(18:49):
that totally outta me.
They just love the dog and allof that.
Delbert (18:53):
That's beautiful.
Hess (18:54):
if you feel lacking, give, if you ever feel like your life
is out of control, stop tryingto control it.
Release the control, and thelast one.
And it ends with love.
If you ever feel unloved love.
She said, if I ever die, I wannahave stretch marks on my heart.
Delbert (19:17):
I love that.
That's beautiful.
Love.
Hess (19:21):
Talk about how this relates to possible Delbert.
Delbert (19:26):
I think when you're stuck.
When you're stuck and you'remaybe you're even, I think
sometimes when you have fear orgrief, the t, the first two and
she says, these are allcounterintuitive to the way that
you would think about dealingwith them.
And you feel stuck.
You.
Dream about taking risk and seethe possibilities of what you
(19:47):
can do.
When you, Once you welcome thatgrief in and you sit with it,
you open yourself up to thepossibilities of going past
grief, right?
And past your fear.
And I think it's a good lessonin abundance.
You know how many possibilitiesyour life does have when you
give.
Hess (20:08):
Wow.
Yeah.
Delbert (20:10):
And when you fear, when you feel like your life's outta
control, a lot of times that'sbecause you are trying to
control every little minutething around it.
And when you let go of thatfirst of all, you free up a lot
of damn time, right?
Hess (20:26):
Yeah.
Delbert (20:27):
Let go.
Think about the endlesspossibilities that are in that
you've just given yourself halfa day back.
And then, you know what?
We're all just here on thisearth to just love love.
And the more you love, the morelove you bring into the world.
And that creates the thing thatI visualize in the morning when
(20:48):
I send that gold light out.
The possibility of a world justfilled with love, right?
Hess (20:55):
And you got that love.
You got that gold lightsurrounding you also, Delbert.
So when we love, we get morelove.
When you give out your goldlight, you have the gold light
surrounding you also.
Delbert (21:06):
Exactly.
So I just thought that you sentit to me last night.
I was too tired.
I had a lot of work facing mewhen I got back Friday.
And then yesterday I spent theday just catching up on
everything.
And so you sent that to me and Iwas like, I will read that in
the morning'cause I'm so tired.
Hess (21:22):
Yeah.
Delbert (21:22):
but anyway I just thought it was perfect.
I got up and.
Listened to it first thing thismorning and it was a great way
to start the day.
So I hope it helps you podstersand hope we got you thinking
about ways to, just be theauthor of your own story.
Have the power to create changein your life if you want it and
(21:43):
use that big, beautifulimagination that you have.
To help
Hess (21:48):
create the
Delbert (21:49):
the world in the universe.
Hess (21:50):
I love how you ta all this into abundance, Delbert, and.
Okay, everybody think aboutpossibilities.
Zig Ziglar says, when you lookat the possibilities instead of
the problems, future is filledwith endless opportunities.
Delbert (22:08):
Yes.
I love Zig Zigler.
He's got a lot of good ones.
Hess (22:11):
Yeah.
right, y'all, thanks so much forjoining us on our Sunday morning
chat this morning, and move intopossibilities.
Delbert (22:21):
Absolutely.
We love you friends.
We hope you have a wonderfulweek filled with beautiful
imagination and possibilities.
Hess (22:31):
Peace and love.
Delbert (22:32):
Peace and love.
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