October 9, 2025 • 33 mins
What if the line between being “taken” and choosing to go isn’t as clean as we like to think? We open the floor to a charged, honest debate about love, loyalty, temptation, and the quiet influence of our everyday inputs—from social feeds to status, from timing to unsaid needs. We start with a simple pledge—victors, not victims—and then pull apart the stories we tell when relationships shift: was it a crack in the foundation, a force of personality, or the slow drip of algorithm-driven comparison turning contentment into restlessness?
We lay out the case for radical accountability: discipline over desire, vows over vibes, and the courage to say no even when the moment feels cinematic. Then we push back with the reality of influence: some offers bend the will, some people light up voids you didn’t know you had, and some environments prime you to mistake novelty for love. From Harlem Nights’ Sunshine to the Swiss Beatz and Alicia Keys debate, from “Paid in Full” one-liners to real talk about alienation of affection laws, we examine how culture frames being “taken” and why the story you choose shapes what happens next.
Threaded through the debate are practical questions we all face: How do you curate your algorithm so your heart isn’t coached by chaos? How do you repair cracks before someone else walks through the door? When career choices test loyalty and growth, where do you place your bet—and how do you own the cost? We don’t chase consensus. We model perspective, respect, and the kind of disagreement that sharpens everyone in the room. Plus, updates on our hospitality program, the October 6 vendor booth, and community projects worth your support.
If this conversation made you think, share it with someone who loves a good debate. Subscribe for more sharp, unfiltered talk, and leave a review with your verdict: can someone take you, or do you always choose?
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SPEAKER_01 (00:20):
All right, get it, get it, get, get y'all game
together over there.
SPEAKER_04 (00:23):
Get us together.
We just talk about it.
SPEAKER_01 (00:24):
Get it together.
Get your house together overthere.
Cause we about to we about totake that trip.
We didn't take a little asemi-break on the pod.
But we back tonight to uh to getour to get our business handled.
First of all, starting off, wewant to give you the title Let
Us Become Sharper slash TNSPodcast as the is the game.
(00:46):
CJ Let Us Become Sharper is thename.
Across from me, we have thewonderful Delana.
Delana, tell it tell the peoplesomething before we get going.
SPEAKER_02 (00:55):
Hello, world.
SPEAKER_01 (00:56):
Hello, world.
SPEAKER_02 (00:57):
That's all I got right now.
SPEAKER_01 (00:58):
Okay.
Right now.
You keep me short and sweet.
You can do all you want becausewhen we get once watch me cook.
All right.
And we got to tell us somethings real quick, Shay.
I know you got something to sayto her.
SPEAKER_03 (01:08):
What's popping, family and friends?
How y'all doing out there?
Continue to live, love, andlaugh.
SPEAKER_01 (01:13):
Yep.
Yep, that's that's beautiful foryou.
And I'll speak on Nina's behalf,Dina.
Nina may be coming through thedoor.
I don't know.
I called her, but uh, we wespeak on her behalf.
She's such a she's such a sheshe is such a a pillar of the of
the show, of the podcast.
Probably can't make it tonight,but that's no problem, no
worries.
We're gonna hold it down.
(01:34):
We've all had you know life belife and yes, yes.
So we're gonna roll in too.
First of all, I just want to uhget into a little a little a
little a little top masterplayer talk for y'all.
You know, I was thinking earliertoday, I got a lot of people
that call me and they asked foradvice.
Who would ever ask me foradvice?
They call and ask me for advice.
(01:54):
I got a lot of people who callin and uh check in with me.
They uh they they they like totell me about their problems as
well as accomplishments, and I Irounded out today.
Well, between today andyesterday, I rounded out with a
few with a few pointers.
I want to just tell you that,you know, hey, we're victorious.
(02:17):
You know, I want to speak thatright now.
Anybody in the room, anybodypresent, we victorious, we're
not victims.
It's a difference between avictim and a victor.
It's a lot of victims out here,victims of their own anxiety,
victims of things that are outof our control.
But I'm here to tell you rightnow that we're not victims.
(02:40):
We're victors, even victimsaren't victims, they're still
victors because there's a lessonto be learned and there's
forward mobility in everysituation.
So we want to come in and justspeak about that.
We don't want to be labeled asvictims, we are going to walk
victoriously moving forward.
Let us become sharper.
(03:01):
I want to talk about myhospitality program.
So we got an event coming up onthe sixth.
I'm gonna just put the uh flyeron the edit.
I'm gonna put the flyer on theshow so you can see it.
We got an event coming upOctober the 6th.
It's gonna be a it's gonna be avending booth there.
I want you to support thevending booth.
(03:21):
Anybody who has now experiencedthe fruit of the hospitality
program, I hope that you likeit.
It's affirmations, positiveinjections throughout your day.
Some people have seen it, somehave not.
As Jay-Z would say, those whohave seen it get it today, the
rest of you will get ittomorrow.
But we are definitely going tohave the hospitality program
(03:42):
spread around and touch morepeople with that.
And we'll get we're gonna have auh vendors booth set up for
that, and I'll give you thedetails on that very soon,
talking about Thursday NightSociety.
We're also having an event forthat, the uh raffle exchange for
the Thursday Night Society.
TNS is the the tale of the titleof the podcast.
TNS stands for the ThursdayNight Society.
(04:03):
So everybody's been askingwhat's the topic tonight?
Where are we going on thisglorious night?
This beautiful night.
We got Nina, she's not here, butwe're gonna just roll.
I got Shay Wheels in front ofme.
Yes, yes, and that's aboutenough.
SPEAKER_03 (04:15):
What's good, boss friends?
SPEAKER_01 (04:16):
That's about enough.
I got the wonderful Delana herewith me, and that's about
enough.
So I want to ask you guys, wewere we were out there
conversing in the hallway aboutuh about uh the fact that uh,
you know, we watching uh paid infull.
You got Rico, who played thecharacter of Al Paul, but his
name was Rico in the movie, anduh A Z, but they called him A,
(04:41):
but A Z in the movie, he gotshot in the head, and uh shot in
the head is a severe, seriousthing of a serious injury, but
he lived, he's blessed, youknow.
And Money Mitch was telling himthat you blessed us, and uh you
know, in the process of himgetting well, uh Rico, which
played by Cameron, Rico says,Hey man, pull your skirt down,
(05:02):
B.
People get shot every day, B.
You hear what I'm saying?
Hey, yo, B, people get shotevery day.
Eat some chip, people get shotevery day, B.
Get him some soup, yeah.
Get him some soup, give him someman, get your man some blanket.
You know, he said, he said, man,I'm shot in the head.
Yeah, but ain't nobody reallyworried about your injuries.
(05:24):
Goes back to our precursor.
You know, we're talking topmaster player talk about victims
and victory, victors.
Is we're not victims here, wevictor, we victorious, you know.
And I really want y'all tounderstand that.
So, going back to that, youknow, people get shot every day,
B.
But now we're gonna go into thetopic, which is people take
(05:47):
people from people every day, B.
Oh man, yeah, oh yeah, it'sgetting about to get hotter from
somebody people get people takepeople from people every day, B.
So now I'm gonna ask you this.
People take people from peopleevery day.
(06:11):
Now, can you take somebody or dothey have to go willingly?
Let me know.
Let me know if y'all weigh in onthat.
Since y'all want to do apodcast, we're gonna do a
podcast, we're gonna talktonight.
Can you take somebody fromsomebody or can someone take you
(06:36):
from somebody, or do you have tobe a willing participant?
Let me know right now.
SPEAKER_02 (06:42):
You absolutely have to be a willing participant.
SPEAKER_01 (06:45):
I just want you to speak on it.
SPEAKER_02 (06:47):
How how can somebody take you from somebody and
you're not willing to go?
SPEAKER_01 (06:53):
Hey, the person maybe maybe that person is just
that dynamic.
There are people out here thatare that powerful, but you still
gotta go.
Sometimes you don't make yousometimes you don't have a
choice.
SPEAKER_02 (07:06):
Some some all right, tell talk about it.
That's a little different.
It is that's a little different.
You still can't be taking.
I mean, if you I mean, dependingon what kind of taking you
talking about, you're talkingabout no.
SPEAKER_01 (07:18):
I ain't talking about no BS cheating, I ain't
talking about no sneaky linking.
Oh, that's sneaky.
SPEAKER_04 (07:26):
I'm talking about that's how that's high build up
before they leave.
SPEAKER_01 (07:29):
No, I'm not talking about that aspect.
I'm talking about take theplate.
What?
Not eat off the plate when ain'tnobody looking.
I'm talking about you don't youlived here and now you don't
live here no more.
You live here now.
You gotta be willing to go.
SPEAKER_04 (07:42):
It's gotta be nobody can take you from you from
anybody.
You gotta be willing to go.
First of all, are y'all sure?
No, that's a sure thing becausehave y'all ever been to no, no,
not that I can recall.
Are you over here going back inthe rear and then let me protect
(08:03):
people from people every day, B.
No, but but yeah, like I say,you gotta.
I don't I don't own you, I can'thold you on the leash.
So it's kind of like I'm sosecure that you should want to
come home.
And if you don't want to comehome, sweetheart, go where you
feel like you need to go.
SPEAKER_01 (08:18):
Wherever you're happy, that's where you should
be.
No, that's light work.
That's light work, that's lightwork, that's light work, that's
light work.
See, you're talking about Idon't own it.
I want you to be at your verybest.
No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_02 (08:28):
That's like somebody like when people say, um, I
think that's you broke up ahappy home.
No, it was cracks in thatfoundation.
SPEAKER_01 (08:34):
No, no, no.
SPEAKER_02 (08:34):
That door, that door was that door was open.
Yeah, no, they didn't break upnothing.
No, no, let me say this.
SPEAKER_04 (08:40):
I might shook up a little bit.
Now I will say this because thisgoes tricky.
I've been married for 14 yearsof my life.
I'm now divorced, but I will saythis if it's a marriage, I feel
like once a person finds out orknows somebody's married, that
is considered a person thatshould not be messing with a
person that's married untilthey're done because they could
(09:01):
reconcile if your ass wasn't inthe area.
Well, it's a lawsuit, but I'msaying, but people do that, so
like no, I don't agree withthat.
Just close that door firstbefore you go move over here.
SPEAKER_01 (09:09):
No, it's just a real life, it's a real life lawsuit.
You can sue the person forbreaking up your marriage.
Oh, it's in a room.
SPEAKER_04 (09:17):
How long that's been going on?
I've been going on.
How long has it been in effect?
SPEAKER_01 (09:22):
That is that been in place for a minute.
It's it's a homework orsomething.
That's crazy.
I mean, that's it's a clause.
SPEAKER_02 (09:27):
Yeah, I can sue you.
SPEAKER_01 (09:29):
You can sue the other woman for interfering in
our for breaking up my marriage.
SPEAKER_02 (09:33):
But how you break up, I just don't feel like even
though he's wrong, he's or she'swrong, you know.
SPEAKER_04 (09:38):
The parties are wrong, but I'm saying, but uh
outside party with the thirdparty automatically can't move
forward if you got that all thatextra in there sometimes, you
know.
Okay, I say that's anotherstory.
We ain't even know that'sanother story.
That's another story.
SPEAKER_01 (09:53):
I reserved this topic this evening specifically
because of things that we werespeaking in the group.
I thought that I would bring ahaymaker of a topic that would
get the people going, that wouldget people to chime in, that
would that would spark theinterest of the people.
So, this is why I brought thistopic.
Let me explain something to youabout this.
You must have been taken before.
(10:17):
I wasn't about to I wasn't aboutto go.
SPEAKER_04 (10:20):
I know take it when I see it.
SPEAKER_01 (10:22):
How do you know taking when you see it?
You ain't never been took.
Oh, you took somebody.
Oh, okay.
I give it my bad.
I plead the fit.
You did you did take it.
I'll plead the fit.
Yeah, so you know all about it.
Yeah, if there's yeah, you'regoing to sip your tea.
If there was some, if there wassomebody out there that was
dynamic enough to take you from,like, for example, on the movie
(10:44):
Harlem Knights.
This is a prime example of aperson getting taken.
What part?
You know what part, baby.
Now he now he called the son.
The son answered the phone.
Put your mama on the phone.
That's so that's so sunshine.
So you gonna tell you and tellme that's some dangerous thing.
(11:10):
Now you're gonna sit here beforein front of me with these cups
and tweak.
Not even not even 90 days in.
First time you call it home.
Cracks in the foundation, andthey were they was already, they
wasn't having no problems, man.
SPEAKER_02 (11:23):
He wasn't getting he wasn't getting it like sunshine,
I was giving it to me, man.
All right, then.
SPEAKER_01 (11:26):
So is it possible for somebody to come in and take
you?
SPEAKER_02 (11:31):
Well, he he willingly went because once he
got home, he wanted to go, hewanted to go.
He called home, he didn't goback.
He didn't want to go, he don'teven have no children.
He didn't need no clothes oranything.
He's like, I'm gone.
SPEAKER_01 (11:43):
Listen, I hear all that.
What you're talking.
Do you think he had any defenseagainst sunshine?
SPEAKER_04 (11:48):
He had first of all, he had no business.
He had no business withsunshine.
Let's start there.
That was one.
There was nothing he didn't do.
He'd never known it was asunshine outside.
SPEAKER_02 (11:59):
It had to be a crack.
SPEAKER_01 (12:01):
Yeah, it was impossible to go home.
SPEAKER_02 (12:03):
He meant sunshine, it was a crack.
Like she eased in there realquick, lady heroine, and on top
of that, her name was ladyheroin.
SPEAKER_04 (12:11):
He was so dingy.
Yes, never seen a dinghy man.
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (12:16):
Listen, listen to him, listen to him, hear me out.
Hear me out.
Oh, we have you now.
Hear me out, hear me out.
There's no such thing as arelationship because a lot of
relationships have fault linesand cracks and flaws in them,
right?
That's life.
That's life.
I'm talking about if with nosunshine there, we was all good.
(12:41):
He was going home that night.
Had he not ever saw sunshine inthat bar that night, he was
going home that night.
SPEAKER_04 (12:48):
But when you come against a force, that's called
temptation, and you're unguardedwith the covering of Jesus.
SPEAKER_03 (12:54):
Oh okay.
SPEAKER_01 (12:55):
So can't so can't you're easily tempted.
Okay, so can't so once again.
Can you be taken?
SPEAKER_04 (13:02):
Or do you have to be a willing participant?
If you if you led by your flesh,of course, everybody's led by
their flesh.
SPEAKER_01 (13:07):
Nope, that's not true.
SPEAKER_04 (13:08):
Man, if you don't stop cabineting your rap, it's
not, it's called discipline.
Now we all we all can besuccumbed to it, but you gotta
have discipline.
Listen, you can't.
If that's the case, you know howmany handsome people and fine
women and we can't sleep witheverybody, you see.
But for real, you can't, youwill be you'll be like easy
east.
Rest in peace.
I'm just saying, don't feed methat malarkey.
You get what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01 (13:28):
Fluid.
Don't feed me that malarkey.
You should love yourself.
No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_04 (13:33):
Don't the morals and values you gotta learn how to
say now.
You should be the prize.
Both of us are the prize.
Don't don't sell yourself short,young men and women.
SPEAKER_01 (13:41):
It's just the people that you coming across are not
dynamic enough.
But I'm talking about when youmeet something, a force, uh an
immovable object, it is possiblefor you to be taken.
So I brought this topic out fora reason.
I want to talk about this.
I think that's calleddisloyalty.
You're not loyal.
No, it's not loyal, it's notdisloyalty.
(14:02):
What it's not disloyalty.
So break it down.
So was it so?
SPEAKER_04 (14:07):
Was Swiss beast disloyal?
Oh, you know, I had a big debateabout this.
He definitely was no no no no nono no.
We're gonna just get into it.
When he was with his first wife,all right then.
Very disappointing.
SPEAKER_01 (14:17):
What you gonna do when Alicia Keys come knocking?
I love Alicia, but that was whatyou gonna do?
What you gonna do when Aliciawhen a keys come knocking?
You're not about to brush heroff.
SPEAKER_04 (14:27):
So, have you seen that movie Indecent Proposal?
Yes, would you let your wife gospend a night with a man for a
million dollars?
A million dollars is light thesedays.
What you would say, baby?
10 million?
SPEAKER_01 (14:35):
No, no, but would you allow that though?
It's a price, it's a price.
Now, out of all the eightbillion trillion people in the
world, however, have whateverthat number is right now, out of
everybody on the earth, I'm theone to get the financial
proposal.
Well, that's just a toughcookie.
SPEAKER_04 (14:54):
If I'm the one that tell your wife to go enjoy her,
we on the boat, we on the boat.
We really ain't even he ain'teven sleep with her.
SPEAKER_01 (15:01):
He may love her mad.
Yeah, we don't we on the boat,we on the boat, and a guy walks
up to out of all people of allpeople walks up to me and says,
I got that couple dollars forthis one you got right here.
Well, that's just a toughcookie.
That's just a that's just hemight she might willingly go
too.
SPEAKER_04 (15:19):
He might be more of a she tired of being a no-limit
soldier.
She she's about to stay onNettley yacht.
Listen, thank you for sending melove.
Yeah, I'll send you some cash.
SPEAKER_02 (15:29):
He's gonna be calling home.
Sorry, I ain't gonna be.
SPEAKER_01 (15:36):
Y'all gonna go for less than that million since you
want to since y'all want totalk.
Since y'all want to talk.
I'm just saying, I am not.
SPEAKER_02 (15:42):
I am not I am I am not offended.
SPEAKER_01 (15:45):
I cut a couple shots less than a million.
I cut a couple shots.
I'm looking I'm thinking morelike 50,000.
So at the end, look at the ladygot a hand.
SPEAKER_04 (15:53):
Now I'll plead the fifth.
SPEAKER_01 (15:55):
Yeah, no, a little bit so temptation.
I hear I hear the differentscenarios that y'all add into
it, but back to the back toSwiss.
And I didn't want to bring Swissinto it because I didn't throw
him on away.
SPEAKER_04 (16:06):
I ain't scared.
I love both of them, but they itwas wrong.
It was wrong.
It was.
I got I stand for what I standfor.
Do you feel that Swiss got took?
Yeah, because he was weakminded.
SPEAKER_01 (16:16):
No, and all the rest of that.
The asterisk, he went willingly.
No, because he dabbled with it.
Did he get took uh from thewife?
Yes or no?
SPEAKER_03 (16:28):
No, did he get took from his wife?
SPEAKER_01 (16:32):
Can do Alicia Keys got the right if they get into a
phone or argument, do she say, Itook that's why I took your man?
Would she be lying?
And that's why she gets the badglass because right there, right
there.
SPEAKER_04 (16:45):
Simple question.
So you calling her a homerecord, yeah, that's what you're
saying.
Of course she was.
SPEAKER_01 (16:49):
She told a manage that exactly.
SPEAKER_04 (16:51):
So that's so yeah, she did, and yeah, she did take
him.
But I'm just want to hear whaty'all think.
No, she did.
How y'all think?
I feel like in that in thatstance, that's what the that's
what comes with that light whenyou when you hey, when you want
to cross that bridge.
SPEAKER_01 (17:03):
So it's safe to say that you can be took.
SPEAKER_04 (17:05):
Yeah, if that's if you want to go.
SPEAKER_01 (17:08):
Nah, and you ain't got no choice.
You ain't got no choice.
SPEAKER_04 (17:11):
No, I'm saying nobody can make you do anything.
You have to want to do is adecision.
Impossible.
Everything is a decision.
No, you can't control nobodyelse but yourself.
That's it.
SPEAKER_01 (17:20):
Impossible.
I you can control people.
SPEAKER_04 (17:21):
No, the hook, you can't.
SPEAKER_01 (17:22):
Oh, yes, you can.
SPEAKER_04 (17:23):
People can be controlled if they want to be
controlled.
That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01 (17:26):
People get controlled every day against
their will.
SPEAKER_04 (17:28):
That's too.
But most time, most times peopleget controlled through media and
influence and you know, andmanipulation and all kinds of
things, but that's differenttoo.
SPEAKER_01 (17:39):
Listen, this it's a chick right now, got a good man
at home.
She's looking at Instagram,she's looking at TikTok, she's
looking at FB, and she's lookingat him saying you ain't good
enough when he is good enough.
(18:00):
But the influence and the powerthat the media have over her is
gonna lead her to a bolddecision.
I agree, and the treatment ofhim, so people get controlled
every day.
SPEAKER_04 (18:10):
That's true.
Well, what you put in yourspirit, that's what I say.
That's important.
What you feed your spirit allthe time.
You can't always be if you'resurfing, yeah.
You got an idle mind is thedevil's workshop.
That's a sort of thing.
SPEAKER_01 (18:19):
I hear all that with you talking, but I can freeze
the room right now, flip it.
And if I had the power, flipeverybody's phone over.
But that pop up on your phone,and everybody got Instagram on
their phone.
Of course.
SPEAKER_04 (18:29):
We all do.
I'm talking about the disciplineof how much time you spend on
things.
That's the thing.
And then it's also about it'salso about your search, what you
like to watch.
Because if you what's on my feedain't on your feed, you get what
I'm saying?
What's on my feet are positivethings.
Some what's on somebody else'sfeed is fights all the time.
But what's identity?
You never know.
SPEAKER_01 (18:46):
No, but what's on your feed collectively is on
your feet.
Y'all, what's on your feed ain'ton my feed?
Because what you like to watchcomes on your feed.
SPEAKER_04 (18:52):
I'm on the algorithm, it's called
algorithm.
I'm only watching one thing.
SPEAKER_02 (18:56):
Yeah, your algorithm should be like, they know what
you like.
SPEAKER_04 (18:58):
So, what you feed in your spirit?
SPEAKER_02 (19:00):
I was laughing at a video I was watching earlier,
and I was like, if people onlyknew some of the stuff I watch.
So, what type of videos?
SPEAKER_04 (19:06):
That's that's the that's what you gotta ask you.
What type of videos come acrossyour feed?
That's how you know what's whatyour algorithm is, what you
watch a lot.
SPEAKER_02 (19:11):
No, I know I know what I'm watching.
SPEAKER_04 (19:15):
I'm not saying it.
What's yours?
What's on your feet?
SPEAKER_02 (19:17):
I'm not saying it all though.
SPEAKER_04 (19:18):
What's on your feet, C Jack?
Booties.
See, yeah, all day no, he ain'tlying.
Cause I got a cousin.
When you go there, I'm like, whyis all the answers everywhere?
Because that's all he that's whyhe double tappers.
SPEAKER_02 (19:27):
So that's what whatever you like it a lot.
That's what's happening.
Oh, that's what you like.
Imagine people just booty shakeit.
SPEAKER_04 (19:33):
I'm like, this looks like Twitter.
SPEAKER_02 (19:35):
I'm not going.
SPEAKER_04 (19:35):
Yeah, I've got a Twitter.
It's so explicit.
I'm not going.
SPEAKER_02 (19:38):
I'm not, but I don't go on.
SPEAKER_01 (19:40):
I'm not going on it to see the TV.
I'm not going on there.
I'm not going on there forrecipes.
SPEAKER_02 (19:44):
I got a lot.
Actually, I got that.
SPEAKER_01 (19:46):
Yeah, I got that for Pinterest.
Yeah, I'm not going on there forrecipes.
Just know that.
Okay, so we we we we we got, youknow, I I wish that uh I wish
that Nina was here to hear herplay.
I'm quite sure that it would bethat it would be abstract.
Yes, yes.
But at the end of the day, youknow, we speaking about can you
be taken from can someone comealong and take you?
SPEAKER_04 (20:08):
So, can I ask you a CJ?
Have you been taken before?
Yes, I knew it.
Can you speak from experience?
Well, no, I did too.
Yep, yep, yep.
I was she wanted to do whatwe're supposed to do.
I went over there.
No, brainer.
SPEAKER_01 (20:19):
No, I was speaking from Alicia Keys.
I was looking at the Alicia, Iwas looking at the Alicia Keys
situation.
Okay, and that's because nowfrom what we're hearing, I
wasn't there, but from whatwe're hearing, Swiss Beast is
being taken.
SPEAKER_04 (20:32):
Well, so crazy, they've been together for so
many years now, and they familywork, you know.
So the karma ain't hit them likethey said it would.
So people like, well, it happilyever after.
But yeah, I just seen him onCasa Nat's stream.
You know, he just reached abillion.
Shout out to Casa Nat, but theysaid on Twitch that that was his
guest, so that you hadn't seenAlicia Keys and her family in a
long time.
That just came out.
SPEAKER_01 (20:50):
So, you know, it's back to the point, like I said,
I wanted to give a heartfelttype style of topic.
Yes, I am one who has beentaken, so I understand, and I
definitely can can relate toanybody out there that has been
taken.
And no, I was not a willingparticipant, I'm no willing
(21:10):
participant.
I had no choice.
That's like that's like if theygive you a job in Seattle, it's
950,000 a year.
You're talking about some oh Iwas fine.
Still got a choice.
SPEAKER_04 (21:20):
You don't have a choice, you could turn the 60
million down like like DaveChapel did.
SPEAKER_01 (21:23):
Hey, you sound crazy.
950 a year, you sound crazy.
Let me tell let me show you.
Let me hey everybody out there,I'm about to be in Seattle.
Hey, everybody out there.
Hey everybody out there, let meshow you the malarkey that
they'll try to run on.
They try to run, you soundstupid, and I don't even use
that word.
You sound stupid.
950 a year.
(21:44):
I still I will I still have achoice while you still talking
that sugar.
SPEAKER_02 (21:50):
I'm already on a plane.
I've took his hey okay.
SPEAKER_01 (21:55):
There is a way I could be trained from a bar from
a barber standpoint.
I I won't even cut the clippersoff.
The clippers will still berunning, still sitting up there
running like this.
Ain't no way that you're gonnasit up there and give me that
malarkey.
You don't have a choice.
What everything is a choice,everything is not a choice, and
I don't know who lied to you.
You have a decision.
SPEAKER_04 (22:16):
Okay, well, okay, you know what?
That's so generalized, you'reright.
Let me not say that because somepeople are not a choice, but
they don't have a choice, theydidn't choose that.
Okay, that's that's the wrongway to put that.
SPEAKER_01 (22:24):
I you have a lot of choices, but in extreme
situations, you don't have achoice, you got the role.
SPEAKER_04 (22:33):
Well, I'm talking about accountability when you're
in situations though, if youhave yourself in a situation of
a temptation type of thing thatwe're talking about, right?
That is a choice.
Nobody can force you to sleepwith anyone that you don't want
to sleep with.
I'm saying that you actuallymade in your mind and said, I'm
gonna do that.
You like no matter whether she'sfat out or not, you kind of felt
like I'm gonna do that, right?
That's your decision.
That's you gotta take thataccountability.
SPEAKER_01 (22:54):
We're not talking about mind control, no, we're
talking about you made adecision.
We we talking about at the endof the day, you ain't got no
choice, you ain't got no choice.
This about to happen.
You you you could have said no.
No, not impossible.
SPEAKER_02 (23:09):
You could have said no.
SPEAKER_01 (23:10):
Well you said yes, then you can say no.
SPEAKER_04 (23:11):
Nobody you can say they put a gun in your hand and
say you're coming home with metonight.
You was like, Hey, you're goingfor less.
SPEAKER_02 (23:18):
No, hey, like why you just say it?
Like you didn't have to hold nogun.
SPEAKER_01 (23:22):
Impossible.
There's no way.
This is forced.
There's no way.
This this possible, this, this,this I love you, Frank.
SPEAKER_04 (23:30):
I can't I can't react with you on that.
You are you are not forced onthat.
Hey, sometimes sometimes theperson is that good, but you
ain't have no choice.
But see, you don't want to admitthat you wanted to go.
Yeah, I didn't.
You rather say she made me goinstead of saying this is where
I wanted to be.
SPEAKER_01 (23:48):
No, I'm not saying that she made me go.
What'd you say?
But I'm not so so it ain't it'sonly two options.
Either she made me or I wantedto.
Right.
I didn't want to go.
So, what was the other optionthere?
The other option was this is avery, very difficult decision.
SPEAKER_02 (24:02):
A just a what?
SPEAKER_01 (24:03):
A very, very difficult decision that you had
to make.
You had to make it though.
You know what I you know whatthese things I love.
SPEAKER_04 (24:10):
Between a decision and a very, very difficult
listen to this one.
I love this.
Either you make a decision or adecision will be made for you.
No, that's that's sound like thethat's that's that's in any that
applies to anything in yourlife.
Either you make a decision aboutsomething, or the or decision
will be made for you.
Somebody else, you're leaving itto somebody else to handle it,
or you handle your yourdecision.
SPEAKER_01 (24:29):
Sound like oppression on so many levels.
You get what I get what you'resaying.
Okay, you better look that way.
She's gonna get what you'resaying.
I don't get what you're saying.
SPEAKER_04 (24:35):
That's so I know because me and her from where
women are I didn't like that up.
SPEAKER_01 (24:42):
Sound like oppressions.
We just don't perception.
You so we won see we winded inthere, and I see that I see that
uh sips and t-test, yeah.
So you know, I see that thewomen of the panel tonight, two
to one, believe that you can'tbe taken.
Mean the way yeah, it would bethree to one because you know
(25:03):
she was saying, you know, likewhat taken?
You gotta want to go.
I know, I know she says whatshe's like.
But yeah, I don't wish this lifeexperience on nobody, I don't
wish nobody to be put into thissituation where somebody comes
along and fills a void that youcannot resist.
I do not want anybody to getcaught into that type of life
(25:26):
experience.
So maybe in life and your life,your life, that that it was a
decision that I could that thisvoid can remain empty.
I my personal situation had asituation had an offer made to
me.
Say, look, it's an offer for me.
Hey, look, you know, they'relooking for a sponsor.
(25:46):
Looking for a sponsor.
Look, uh big this here.
Let's go.
And you gotta go.
You ain't you ain't sitting bythat to us.
I'm gonna make a decision, ain'tno decision.
Let's go.
SPEAKER_04 (26:01):
Speaking from experience for me, this is never
happened.
I gotta make a decision if Iwant to go.
If I want to do something,nobody can make it this.
I don't want the y'all to makethe decision for me.
I'm I'm I'm so sound in my mind,and I'm gonna sit and think on
it, I'm gonna pray on it.
And when I come back, I'm like,I ain't gonna be all iffy on.
I'm gonna know what I want todo.
I'm gonna test do or don't wantto do it.
(26:22):
Yeah, I'm gonna test it.
If I do this, this is what canhappen from here to here.
If I do it this way, this iswhat can happen from here.
So, which one is it worth it?
Yeah, should I?
Yeah, all right, yeah.
It's gotta make sense.
Y'all see that yeah before Imake a decision.
Y'all see that CJ Yeti.
That's nice.
I noticed that color skin gotthe coordinate.
SPEAKER_01 (26:38):
Y'all see that CJ Yeti coordinate with that polo.
Y'all see that CJ Yeti, don'tyou?
That's nice.
Stop capping and y'all rap.
SPEAKER_04 (26:44):
Y'all see okay.
Come on, elevate boss friend.
SPEAKER_01 (26:46):
Y'all see it.
SPEAKER_04 (26:48):
Let me give it to you.
You see it.
I need an olive green one likethat.
Trust me, I got you.
That's my color.
So if you give me olive greencanteen like that, I will I will
rock it out all the time and repyour brand.
SPEAKER_01 (26:57):
Kanye West got discovered, mentored, and signed
by Dame Dash.
Rockefeller Records breaks up.
Damn Dash say, come with me.
Jay-Z say come with me.
(27:20):
Kanye, you did not have achoice.
There is no decision, it's clearwhat you about to do.
Now, Dame Dash puts you in thegame.
Loyalty.
SPEAKER_04 (27:31):
It ain't no lawyer.
But in this game, like you said,read it.
It ain't no loyalty.
You gotta read the 48 Laws ofPower.
All right, right.
The people doesn't listening.
For sure.
I hope so.
SPEAKER_01 (27:44):
What loyalty are do you speak of?
Jay-Z or Dame Dash?
SPEAKER_04 (27:49):
I think that I think that I think that I I you know,
I actually love them bothbecause I met Dame Dash, but I
actually love what they bothstand for.
SPEAKER_01 (27:56):
I do love them both, but at the end of the day, where
you going?
SPEAKER_04 (28:00):
All right.
So let's I mean who I'm goingwith who ain't gatekeeping, who
for the people.
Let's start there.
You're going with Jay-Z.
SPEAKER_01 (28:07):
But that don't mean that it's for the people.
So I hope so.
So what we're gonna do is we'regonna put an end to the fluff.
We had a great, we had a greatI'm going.
I know you are.
I know you are.
So let's do this from the fromfrom let's do this from the life
(28:29):
that I didn't live.
I come from a differentperspective.
So we're learning now, we'rebecoming sharper and learning
that this is all aboutperspective.
That's right.
And the perspective that I haveversus the perspective that
y'all have is lighting,enlightening, but I don't want
to hear all that with y'all.
Sometimes that decision comesbefore you, it ain't that you
can do it.
We gotta agree to disagree.
We gotta do this.
(28:49):
Yes, indeed.
We don't even gotta do that.
You got your opinion, you gotyour opinion, I got mine.
We don't gotta do no agreement.
SPEAKER_02 (28:55):
We can be raised in the same house and think
differently by the same people,right?
And grow up together, and I canguarantee you there are gonna be
things that they seen or youseen that are gonna be
completely perceiveddifferently.
SPEAKER_01 (29:09):
But we don't have to agree to disagree, we can just
disagree.
I don't gotta agree about it.
SPEAKER_04 (29:15):
No, we're saying that we agreeing that we don't
agree.
SPEAKER_01 (29:18):
Yeah, that's all no, we don't even gotta agree.
We just disagree.
No, no, no, it's just you gotyour opinion, you got my
opinion.
We ain't gotta even we ain'tgotta do none of that, we ain't
gotta put a title on it.
Okay, so so that's how we roll.
So, time supporters.
We got some supporters comingout there, want to see the show
do well.
All cash is verified.
Respect my Cho Detroit.
What up, though?
(29:39):
Uh, we we gotta what up, though.
You know, we gotta get a what upthough on the air.
We got Shay gonna take a littleShay working on some various
projects.
Yeah, so we gotta let her, wegotta watch her cook.
Yes, let me gotta watch Nina.
My movie be coming out.
The movie coming out, so wegotta watch working on all of
that.
We gonna we're gonna be rightthere and support.
You best believe that we'regonna be right there and
support.
(30:00):
And advocacy of everything thatshe has going on, as we stated
in the chat.
Yeah, Child Supports all cash isverified.
Anything coming in or anythinggoing out, it's verified.
We don't read it from a monetarystandpoint.
Also, to my personal supporters,uh, all cast where I appreciate
everything that my clientele andall my supporters do for me
(30:21):
personally.
So I have to say this publiclyopenly on the air.
Y'all done a great job andcontinue your continued support
is uh appreciated.
SPEAKER_04 (30:28):
So, yeah, and listen, I'll be dropping the air
on this.
Your family is like, yeah, no,no, no, listen.
SPEAKER_01 (30:33):
Come on now, we get on that.
Yeah, come on now, player.
You know it.
Is the elephant heavy?
So at the end of all at the endof all of that, we just like to
thank you.
Yeah, so can someone take youfrom someone, or do you have to
be a willing participant?
Is the topic.
(30:55):
Wait, chime in on that, commenton that, weigh in on that one.
Some people say, these peoplesay that you gotta be able to.
SPEAKER_00 (31:02):
These people, these people.
I feel it.
Yeah, we are wild.
Y'all people feel that's now asyou people.
These people feel these peoplesit here and not.
SPEAKER_01 (31:20):
These people say that you can that you have to be
a willing participant, that itthat you can't be taken.
You had to want to have done it,that it's a choice, a decision.
You should they theyaccountability, they talking
that.
I'm telling you that there aresome.
I'm telling you that there aresome people in this world that
are so beautiful, that are soelite, that are so out of this
(31:42):
world that they'll come alongand take you.
I'm gonna look him in the face.
You got took, huh?
Get you.
From who you are.
Don't forget the CJ Cups.
Get get it, get it, get a goodlook at that.
Don't get forget the CJ Cups.
We got the CJ Yeti.
We got the CJ Cups.
Don't forget the lighters.
Come on, now don't forget theproduct.
We gotta put that man.
(32:03):
I know you got your.
We gotta put it up like this.
Don't I need a new one?
That red is hot.
That red, that red is hot.
That's a Thursday night one.
That red is firing.
So we got the product's goingup.
Like I say, that you got supportthe uh from the hospitality
program, support the uh the thevendor, the vendor booth that we
got coming up.
I'm gonna have all my productsthere.
(32:23):
That's and we're gonna keep thisball bouncing.
So to the next time, you know,Nina.
Nina, we got we got you, baby.
We'll see you soon.
So to the next time, we're gonnacome back in here and do it
again.
We'll have more debatable butrelatable topics for you.
Yes, we'll uh we'll come backagain.
We're gonna get us a littlesemi-photo shoot.
(32:45):
I don't like to do it withoutNina, but we'll do it anyway.
And uh, we'll see you soon.
We'll see you soon.
Let's bless.
Did you blow a kiss?
SPEAKER_02 (32:52):
No, do it.
Yes, you did.
I did no, that was cute.
unknown (32:56):
Do it.
SPEAKER_02 (32:57):
I did not blow a kiss.
SPEAKER_01 (32:58):
Do it on that note.
Let us become shy.
All right, get it, get it, get, get y'all game
together over there.
SPEAKER_04 (00:23):
Get us together.
We just talk about it.
SPEAKER_01 (00:24):
Get it together.
Get your house together overthere.
Cause we about to we about totake that trip.
We didn't take a little asemi-break on the pod.
But we back tonight to uh to getour to get our business handled.
First of all, starting off, wewant to give you the title Let
Us Become Sharper slash TNSPodcast as the is the game.
(00:46):
CJ Let Us Become Sharper is thename.
Across from me, we have thewonderful Delana.
Delana, tell it tell the peoplesomething before we get going.
SPEAKER_02 (00:55):
Hello, world.
SPEAKER_01 (00:56):
Hello, world.
SPEAKER_02 (00:57):
That's all I got right now.
SPEAKER_01 (00:58):
Okay.
Right now.
You keep me short and sweet.
You can do all you want becausewhen we get once watch me cook.
All right.
And we got to tell us somethings real quick, Shay.
I know you got something to sayto her.
SPEAKER_03 (01:08):
What's popping, family and friends?
How y'all doing out there?
Continue to live, love, andlaugh.
SPEAKER_01 (01:13):
Yep.
Yep, that's that's beautiful foryou.
And I'll speak on Nina's behalf,Dina.
Nina may be coming through thedoor.
I don't know.
I called her, but uh, we wespeak on her behalf.
She's such a she's such a sheshe is such a a pillar of the of
the show, of the podcast.
Probably can't make it tonight,but that's no problem, no
worries.
We're gonna hold it down.
(01:34):
We've all had you know life belife and yes, yes.
So we're gonna roll in too.
First of all, I just want to uhget into a little a little a
little a little top masterplayer talk for y'all.
You know, I was thinking earliertoday, I got a lot of people
that call me and they asked foradvice.
Who would ever ask me foradvice?
They call and ask me for advice.
(01:54):
I got a lot of people who callin and uh check in with me.
They uh they they they like totell me about their problems as
well as accomplishments, and I Irounded out today.
Well, between today andyesterday, I rounded out with a
few with a few pointers.
I want to just tell you that,you know, hey, we're victorious.
(02:17):
You know, I want to speak thatright now.
Anybody in the room, anybodypresent, we victorious, we're
not victims.
It's a difference between avictim and a victor.
It's a lot of victims out here,victims of their own anxiety,
victims of things that are outof our control.
But I'm here to tell you rightnow that we're not victims.
(02:40):
We're victors, even victimsaren't victims, they're still
victors because there's a lessonto be learned and there's
forward mobility in everysituation.
So we want to come in and justspeak about that.
We don't want to be labeled asvictims, we are going to walk
victoriously moving forward.
Let us become sharper.
(03:01):
I want to talk about myhospitality program.
So we got an event coming up onthe sixth.
I'm gonna just put the uh flyeron the edit.
I'm gonna put the flyer on theshow so you can see it.
We got an event coming upOctober the 6th.
It's gonna be a it's gonna be avending booth there.
I want you to support thevending booth.
(03:21):
Anybody who has now experiencedthe fruit of the hospitality
program, I hope that you likeit.
It's affirmations, positiveinjections throughout your day.
Some people have seen it, somehave not.
As Jay-Z would say, those whohave seen it get it today, the
rest of you will get ittomorrow.
But we are definitely going tohave the hospitality program
(03:42):
spread around and touch morepeople with that.
And we'll get we're gonna have auh vendors booth set up for
that, and I'll give you thedetails on that very soon,
talking about Thursday NightSociety.
We're also having an event forthat, the uh raffle exchange for
the Thursday Night Society.
TNS is the the tale of the titleof the podcast.
TNS stands for the ThursdayNight Society.
(04:03):
So everybody's been askingwhat's the topic tonight?
Where are we going on thisglorious night?
This beautiful night.
We got Nina, she's not here, butwe're gonna just roll.
I got Shay Wheels in front ofme.
Yes, yes, and that's aboutenough.
SPEAKER_03 (04:15):
What's good, boss friends?
SPEAKER_01 (04:16):
That's about enough.
I got the wonderful Delana herewith me, and that's about
enough.
So I want to ask you guys, wewere we were out there
conversing in the hallway aboutuh about uh the fact that uh,
you know, we watching uh paid infull.
You got Rico, who played thecharacter of Al Paul, but his
name was Rico in the movie, anduh A Z, but they called him A,
(04:41):
but A Z in the movie, he gotshot in the head, and uh shot in
the head is a severe, seriousthing of a serious injury, but
he lived, he's blessed, youknow.
And Money Mitch was telling himthat you blessed us, and uh you
know, in the process of himgetting well, uh Rico, which
played by Cameron, Rico says,Hey man, pull your skirt down,
(05:02):
B.
People get shot every day, B.
You hear what I'm saying?
Hey, yo, B, people get shotevery day.
Eat some chip, people get shotevery day, B.
Get him some soup, yeah.
Get him some soup, give him someman, get your man some blanket.
You know, he said, he said, man,I'm shot in the head.
Yeah, but ain't nobody reallyworried about your injuries.
(05:24):
Goes back to our precursor.
You know, we're talking topmaster player talk about victims
and victory, victors.
Is we're not victims here, wevictor, we victorious, you know.
And I really want y'all tounderstand that.
So, going back to that, youknow, people get shot every day,
B.
But now we're gonna go into thetopic, which is people take
(05:47):
people from people every day, B.
Oh man, yeah, oh yeah, it'sgetting about to get hotter from
somebody people get people takepeople from people every day, B.
So now I'm gonna ask you this.
People take people from peopleevery day.
(06:11):
Now, can you take somebody or dothey have to go willingly?
Let me know.
Let me know if y'all weigh in onthat.
Since y'all want to do apodcast, we're gonna do a
podcast, we're gonna talktonight.
Can you take somebody fromsomebody or can someone take you
(06:36):
from somebody, or do you have tobe a willing participant?
Let me know right now.
SPEAKER_02 (06:42):
You absolutely have to be a willing participant.
SPEAKER_01 (06:45):
I just want you to speak on it.
SPEAKER_02 (06:47):
How how can somebody take you from somebody and
you're not willing to go?
SPEAKER_01 (06:53):
Hey, the person maybe maybe that person is just
that dynamic.
There are people out here thatare that powerful, but you still
gotta go.
Sometimes you don't make yousometimes you don't have a
choice.
SPEAKER_02 (07:06):
Some some all right, tell talk about it.
That's a little different.
It is that's a little different.
You still can't be taking.
I mean, if you I mean, dependingon what kind of taking you
talking about, you're talkingabout no.
SPEAKER_01 (07:18):
I ain't talking about no BS cheating, I ain't
talking about no sneaky linking.
Oh, that's sneaky.
SPEAKER_04 (07:26):
I'm talking about that's how that's high build up
before they leave.
SPEAKER_01 (07:29):
No, I'm not talking about that aspect.
I'm talking about take theplate.
What?
Not eat off the plate when ain'tnobody looking.
I'm talking about you don't youlived here and now you don't
live here no more.
You live here now.
You gotta be willing to go.
SPEAKER_04 (07:42):
It's gotta be nobody can take you from you from
anybody.
You gotta be willing to go.
First of all, are y'all sure?
No, that's a sure thing becausehave y'all ever been to no, no,
not that I can recall.
Are you over here going back inthe rear and then let me protect
(08:03):
people from people every day, B.
No, but but yeah, like I say,you gotta.
I don't I don't own you, I can'thold you on the leash.
So it's kind of like I'm sosecure that you should want to
come home.
And if you don't want to comehome, sweetheart, go where you
feel like you need to go.
SPEAKER_01 (08:18):
Wherever you're happy, that's where you should
be.
No, that's light work.
That's light work, that's lightwork, that's light work, that's
light work.
See, you're talking about Idon't own it.
I want you to be at your verybest.
No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_02 (08:28):
That's like somebody like when people say, um, I
think that's you broke up ahappy home.
No, it was cracks in thatfoundation.
SPEAKER_01 (08:34):
No, no, no.
SPEAKER_02 (08:34):
That door, that door was that door was open.
Yeah, no, they didn't break upnothing.
No, no, let me say this.
SPEAKER_04 (08:40):
I might shook up a little bit.
Now I will say this because thisgoes tricky.
I've been married for 14 yearsof my life.
I'm now divorced, but I will saythis if it's a marriage, I feel
like once a person finds out orknows somebody's married, that
is considered a person thatshould not be messing with a
person that's married untilthey're done because they could
(09:01):
reconcile if your ass wasn't inthe area.
Well, it's a lawsuit, but I'msaying, but people do that, so
like no, I don't agree withthat.
Just close that door firstbefore you go move over here.
SPEAKER_01 (09:09):
No, it's just a real life, it's a real life lawsuit.
You can sue the person forbreaking up your marriage.
Oh, it's in a room.
SPEAKER_04 (09:17):
How long that's been going on?
I've been going on.
How long has it been in effect?
SPEAKER_01 (09:22):
That is that been in place for a minute.
It's it's a homework orsomething.
That's crazy.
I mean, that's it's a clause.
SPEAKER_02 (09:27):
Yeah, I can sue you.
SPEAKER_01 (09:29):
You can sue the other woman for interfering in
our for breaking up my marriage.
SPEAKER_02 (09:33):
But how you break up, I just don't feel like even
though he's wrong, he's or she'swrong, you know.
SPEAKER_04 (09:38):
The parties are wrong, but I'm saying, but uh
outside party with the thirdparty automatically can't move
forward if you got that all thatextra in there sometimes, you
know.
Okay, I say that's anotherstory.
We ain't even know that'sanother story.
That's another story.
SPEAKER_01 (09:53):
I reserved this topic this evening specifically
because of things that we werespeaking in the group.
I thought that I would bring ahaymaker of a topic that would
get the people going, that wouldget people to chime in, that
would that would spark theinterest of the people.
So, this is why I brought thistopic.
Let me explain something to youabout this.
You must have been taken before.
(10:17):
I wasn't about to I wasn't aboutto go.
SPEAKER_04 (10:20):
I know take it when I see it.
SPEAKER_01 (10:22):
How do you know taking when you see it?
You ain't never been took.
Oh, you took somebody.
Oh, okay.
I give it my bad.
I plead the fit.
You did you did take it.
I'll plead the fit.
Yeah, so you know all about it.
Yeah, if there's yeah, you'regoing to sip your tea.
If there was some, if there wassomebody out there that was
dynamic enough to take you from,like, for example, on the movie
(10:44):
Harlem Knights.
This is a prime example of aperson getting taken.
What part?
You know what part, baby.
Now he now he called the son.
The son answered the phone.
Put your mama on the phone.
That's so that's so sunshine.
So you gonna tell you and tellme that's some dangerous thing.
(11:10):
Now you're gonna sit here beforein front of me with these cups
and tweak.
Not even not even 90 days in.
First time you call it home.
Cracks in the foundation, andthey were they was already, they
wasn't having no problems, man.
SPEAKER_02 (11:23):
He wasn't getting he wasn't getting it like sunshine,
I was giving it to me, man.
All right, then.
SPEAKER_01 (11:26):
So is it possible for somebody to come in and take
you?
SPEAKER_02 (11:31):
Well, he he willingly went because once he
got home, he wanted to go, hewanted to go.
He called home, he didn't goback.
He didn't want to go, he don'teven have no children.
He didn't need no clothes oranything.
He's like, I'm gone.
SPEAKER_01 (11:43):
Listen, I hear all that.
What you're talking.
Do you think he had any defenseagainst sunshine?
SPEAKER_04 (11:48):
He had first of all, he had no business.
He had no business withsunshine.
Let's start there.
That was one.
There was nothing he didn't do.
He'd never known it was asunshine outside.
SPEAKER_02 (11:59):
It had to be a crack.
SPEAKER_01 (12:01):
Yeah, it was impossible to go home.
SPEAKER_02 (12:03):
He meant sunshine, it was a crack.
Like she eased in there realquick, lady heroine, and on top
of that, her name was ladyheroin.
SPEAKER_04 (12:11):
He was so dingy.
Yes, never seen a dinghy man.
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (12:16):
Listen, listen to him, listen to him, hear me out.
Hear me out.
Oh, we have you now.
Hear me out, hear me out.
There's no such thing as arelationship because a lot of
relationships have fault linesand cracks and flaws in them,
right?
That's life.
That's life.
I'm talking about if with nosunshine there, we was all good.
(12:41):
He was going home that night.
Had he not ever saw sunshine inthat bar that night, he was
going home that night.
SPEAKER_04 (12:48):
But when you come against a force, that's called
temptation, and you're unguardedwith the covering of Jesus.
SPEAKER_03 (12:54):
Oh okay.
SPEAKER_01 (12:55):
So can't so can't you're easily tempted.
Okay, so can't so once again.
Can you be taken?
SPEAKER_04 (13:02):
Or do you have to be a willing participant?
If you if you led by your flesh,of course, everybody's led by
their flesh.
SPEAKER_01 (13:07):
Nope, that's not true.
SPEAKER_04 (13:08):
Man, if you don't stop cabineting your rap, it's
not, it's called discipline.
Now we all we all can besuccumbed to it, but you gotta
have discipline.
Listen, you can't.
If that's the case, you know howmany handsome people and fine
women and we can't sleep witheverybody, you see.
But for real, you can't, youwill be you'll be like easy
east.
Rest in peace.
I'm just saying, don't feed methat malarkey.
You get what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01 (13:28):
Fluid.
Don't feed me that malarkey.
You should love yourself.
No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_04 (13:33):
Don't the morals and values you gotta learn how to
say now.
You should be the prize.
Both of us are the prize.
Don't don't sell yourself short,young men and women.
SPEAKER_01 (13:41):
It's just the people that you coming across are not
dynamic enough.
But I'm talking about when youmeet something, a force, uh an
immovable object, it is possiblefor you to be taken.
So I brought this topic out fora reason.
I want to talk about this.
I think that's calleddisloyalty.
You're not loyal.
No, it's not loyal, it's notdisloyalty.
(14:02):
What it's not disloyalty.
So break it down.
So was it so?
SPEAKER_04 (14:07):
Was Swiss beast disloyal?
Oh, you know, I had a big debateabout this.
He definitely was no no no no nono no.
We're gonna just get into it.
When he was with his first wife,all right then.
Very disappointing.
SPEAKER_01 (14:17):
What you gonna do when Alicia Keys come knocking?
I love Alicia, but that was whatyou gonna do?
What you gonna do when Aliciawhen a keys come knocking?
You're not about to brush heroff.
SPEAKER_04 (14:27):
So, have you seen that movie Indecent Proposal?
Yes, would you let your wife gospend a night with a man for a
million dollars?
A million dollars is light thesedays.
What you would say, baby?
10 million?
SPEAKER_01 (14:35):
No, no, but would you allow that though?
It's a price, it's a price.
Now, out of all the eightbillion trillion people in the
world, however, have whateverthat number is right now, out of
everybody on the earth, I'm theone to get the financial
proposal.
Well, that's just a toughcookie.
SPEAKER_04 (14:54):
If I'm the one that tell your wife to go enjoy her,
we on the boat, we on the boat.
We really ain't even he ain'teven sleep with her.
SPEAKER_01 (15:01):
He may love her mad.
Yeah, we don't we on the boat,we on the boat, and a guy walks
up to out of all people of allpeople walks up to me and says,
I got that couple dollars forthis one you got right here.
Well, that's just a toughcookie.
That's just a that's just hemight she might willingly go
too.
SPEAKER_04 (15:19):
He might be more of a she tired of being a no-limit
soldier.
She she's about to stay onNettley yacht.
Listen, thank you for sending melove.
Yeah, I'll send you some cash.
SPEAKER_02 (15:29):
He's gonna be calling home.
Sorry, I ain't gonna be.
SPEAKER_01 (15:36):
Y'all gonna go for less than that million since you
want to since y'all want totalk.
Since y'all want to talk.
I'm just saying, I am not.
SPEAKER_02 (15:42):
I am not I am I am not offended.
SPEAKER_01 (15:45):
I cut a couple shots less than a million.
I cut a couple shots.
I'm looking I'm thinking morelike 50,000.
So at the end, look at the ladygot a hand.
SPEAKER_04 (15:53):
Now I'll plead the fifth.
SPEAKER_01 (15:55):
Yeah, no, a little bit so temptation.
I hear I hear the differentscenarios that y'all add into
it, but back to the back toSwiss.
And I didn't want to bring Swissinto it because I didn't throw
him on away.
SPEAKER_04 (16:06):
I ain't scared.
I love both of them, but they itwas wrong.
It was wrong.
It was.
I got I stand for what I standfor.
Do you feel that Swiss got took?
Yeah, because he was weakminded.
SPEAKER_01 (16:16):
No, and all the rest of that.
The asterisk, he went willingly.
No, because he dabbled with it.
Did he get took uh from thewife?
Yes or no?
SPEAKER_03 (16:28):
No, did he get took from his wife?
SPEAKER_01 (16:32):
Can do Alicia Keys got the right if they get into a
phone or argument, do she say, Itook that's why I took your man?
Would she be lying?
And that's why she gets the badglass because right there, right
there.
SPEAKER_04 (16:45):
Simple question.
So you calling her a homerecord, yeah, that's what you're
saying.
Of course she was.
SPEAKER_01 (16:49):
She told a manage that exactly.
SPEAKER_04 (16:51):
So that's so yeah, she did, and yeah, she did take
him.
But I'm just want to hear whaty'all think.
No, she did.
How y'all think?
I feel like in that in thatstance, that's what the that's
what comes with that light whenyou when you hey, when you want
to cross that bridge.
SPEAKER_01 (17:03):
So it's safe to say that you can be took.
SPEAKER_04 (17:05):
Yeah, if that's if you want to go.
SPEAKER_01 (17:08):
Nah, and you ain't got no choice.
You ain't got no choice.
SPEAKER_04 (17:11):
No, I'm saying nobody can make you do anything.
You have to want to do is adecision.
Impossible.
Everything is a decision.
No, you can't control nobodyelse but yourself.
That's it.
SPEAKER_01 (17:20):
Impossible.
I you can control people.
SPEAKER_04 (17:21):
No, the hook, you can't.
SPEAKER_01 (17:22):
Oh, yes, you can.
SPEAKER_04 (17:23):
People can be controlled if they want to be
controlled.
That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01 (17:26):
People get controlled every day against
their will.
SPEAKER_04 (17:28):
That's too.
But most time, most times peopleget controlled through media and
influence and you know, andmanipulation and all kinds of
things, but that's differenttoo.
SPEAKER_01 (17:39):
Listen, this it's a chick right now, got a good man
at home.
She's looking at Instagram,she's looking at TikTok, she's
looking at FB, and she's lookingat him saying you ain't good
enough when he is good enough.
(18:00):
But the influence and the powerthat the media have over her is
gonna lead her to a bolddecision.
I agree, and the treatment ofhim, so people get controlled
every day.
SPEAKER_04 (18:10):
That's true.
Well, what you put in yourspirit, that's what I say.
That's important.
What you feed your spirit allthe time.
You can't always be if you'resurfing, yeah.
You got an idle mind is thedevil's workshop.
That's a sort of thing.
SPEAKER_01 (18:19):
I hear all that with you talking, but I can freeze
the room right now, flip it.
And if I had the power, flipeverybody's phone over.
But that pop up on your phone,and everybody got Instagram on
their phone.
Of course.
SPEAKER_04 (18:29):
We all do.
I'm talking about the disciplineof how much time you spend on
things.
That's the thing.
And then it's also about it'salso about your search, what you
like to watch.
Because if you what's on my feedain't on your feed, you get what
I'm saying?
What's on my feet are positivethings.
Some what's on somebody else'sfeed is fights all the time.
But what's identity?
You never know.
SPEAKER_01 (18:46):
No, but what's on your feed collectively is on
your feet.
Y'all, what's on your feed ain'ton my feed?
Because what you like to watchcomes on your feed.
SPEAKER_04 (18:52):
I'm on the algorithm, it's called
algorithm.
I'm only watching one thing.
SPEAKER_02 (18:56):
Yeah, your algorithm should be like, they know what
you like.
SPEAKER_04 (18:58):
So, what you feed in your spirit?
SPEAKER_02 (19:00):
I was laughing at a video I was watching earlier,
and I was like, if people onlyknew some of the stuff I watch.
So, what type of videos?
SPEAKER_04 (19:06):
That's that's the that's what you gotta ask you.
What type of videos come acrossyour feed?
That's how you know what's whatyour algorithm is, what you
watch a lot.
SPEAKER_02 (19:11):
No, I know I know what I'm watching.
SPEAKER_04 (19:15):
I'm not saying it.
What's yours?
What's on your feet?
SPEAKER_02 (19:17):
I'm not saying it all though.
SPEAKER_04 (19:18):
What's on your feet, C Jack?
Booties.
See, yeah, all day no, he ain'tlying.
Cause I got a cousin.
When you go there, I'm like, whyis all the answers everywhere?
Because that's all he that's whyhe double tappers.
SPEAKER_02 (19:27):
So that's what whatever you like it a lot.
That's what's happening.
Oh, that's what you like.
Imagine people just booty shakeit.
SPEAKER_04 (19:33):
I'm like, this looks like Twitter.
SPEAKER_02 (19:35):
I'm not going.
SPEAKER_04 (19:35):
Yeah, I've got a Twitter.
It's so explicit.
I'm not going.
SPEAKER_02 (19:38):
I'm not, but I don't go on.
SPEAKER_01 (19:40):
I'm not going on it to see the TV.
I'm not going on there.
I'm not going on there forrecipes.
SPEAKER_02 (19:44):
I got a lot.
Actually, I got that.
SPEAKER_01 (19:46):
Yeah, I got that for Pinterest.
Yeah, I'm not going on there forrecipes.
Just know that.
Okay, so we we we we we got, youknow, I I wish that uh I wish
that Nina was here to hear herplay.
I'm quite sure that it would bethat it would be abstract.
Yes, yes.
But at the end of the day, youknow, we speaking about can you
be taken from can someone comealong and take you?
SPEAKER_04 (20:08):
So, can I ask you a CJ?
Have you been taken before?
Yes, I knew it.
Can you speak from experience?
Well, no, I did too.
Yep, yep, yep.
I was she wanted to do whatwe're supposed to do.
I went over there.
No, brainer.
SPEAKER_01 (20:19):
No, I was speaking from Alicia Keys.
I was looking at the Alicia, Iwas looking at the Alicia Keys
situation.
Okay, and that's because nowfrom what we're hearing, I
wasn't there, but from whatwe're hearing, Swiss Beast is
being taken.
SPEAKER_04 (20:32):
Well, so crazy, they've been together for so
many years now, and they familywork, you know.
So the karma ain't hit them likethey said it would.
So people like, well, it happilyever after.
But yeah, I just seen him onCasa Nat's stream.
You know, he just reached abillion.
Shout out to Casa Nat, but theysaid on Twitch that that was his
guest, so that you hadn't seenAlicia Keys and her family in a
long time.
That just came out.
SPEAKER_01 (20:50):
So, you know, it's back to the point, like I said,
I wanted to give a heartfelttype style of topic.
Yes, I am one who has beentaken, so I understand, and I
definitely can can relate toanybody out there that has been
taken.
And no, I was not a willingparticipant, I'm no willing
(21:10):
participant.
I had no choice.
That's like that's like if theygive you a job in Seattle, it's
950,000 a year.
You're talking about some oh Iwas fine.
Still got a choice.
SPEAKER_04 (21:20):
You don't have a choice, you could turn the 60
million down like like DaveChapel did.
SPEAKER_01 (21:23):
Hey, you sound crazy.
950 a year, you sound crazy.
Let me tell let me show you.
Let me hey everybody out there,I'm about to be in Seattle.
Hey, everybody out there.
Hey everybody out there, let meshow you the malarkey that
they'll try to run on.
They try to run, you soundstupid, and I don't even use
that word.
You sound stupid.
950 a year.
(21:44):
I still I will I still have achoice while you still talking
that sugar.
SPEAKER_02 (21:50):
I'm already on a plane.
I've took his hey okay.
SPEAKER_01 (21:55):
There is a way I could be trained from a bar from
a barber standpoint.
I I won't even cut the clippersoff.
The clippers will still berunning, still sitting up there
running like this.
Ain't no way that you're gonnasit up there and give me that
malarkey.
You don't have a choice.
What everything is a choice,everything is not a choice, and
I don't know who lied to you.
You have a decision.
SPEAKER_04 (22:16):
Okay, well, okay, you know what?
That's so generalized, you'reright.
Let me not say that because somepeople are not a choice, but
they don't have a choice, theydidn't choose that.
Okay, that's that's the wrongway to put that.
SPEAKER_01 (22:24):
I you have a lot of choices, but in extreme
situations, you don't have achoice, you got the role.
SPEAKER_04 (22:33):
Well, I'm talking about accountability when you're
in situations though, if youhave yourself in a situation of
a temptation type of thing thatwe're talking about, right?
That is a choice.
Nobody can force you to sleepwith anyone that you don't want
to sleep with.
I'm saying that you actuallymade in your mind and said, I'm
gonna do that.
You like no matter whether she'sfat out or not, you kind of felt
like I'm gonna do that, right?
That's your decision.
That's you gotta take thataccountability.
SPEAKER_01 (22:54):
We're not talking about mind control, no, we're
talking about you made adecision.
We we talking about at the endof the day, you ain't got no
choice, you ain't got no choice.
This about to happen.
You you you could have said no.
No, not impossible.
SPEAKER_02 (23:09):
You could have said no.
SPEAKER_01 (23:10):
Well you said yes, then you can say no.
SPEAKER_04 (23:11):
Nobody you can say they put a gun in your hand and
say you're coming home with metonight.
You was like, Hey, you're goingfor less.
SPEAKER_02 (23:18):
No, hey, like why you just say it?
Like you didn't have to hold nogun.
SPEAKER_01 (23:22):
Impossible.
There's no way.
This is forced.
There's no way.
This this possible, this, this,this I love you, Frank.
SPEAKER_04 (23:30):
I can't I can't react with you on that.
You are you are not forced onthat.
Hey, sometimes sometimes theperson is that good, but you
ain't have no choice.
But see, you don't want to admitthat you wanted to go.
Yeah, I didn't.
You rather say she made me goinstead of saying this is where
I wanted to be.
SPEAKER_01 (23:48):
No, I'm not saying that she made me go.
What'd you say?
But I'm not so so it ain't it'sonly two options.
Either she made me or I wantedto.
Right.
I didn't want to go.
So, what was the other optionthere?
The other option was this is avery, very difficult decision.
SPEAKER_02 (24:02):
A just a what?
SPEAKER_01 (24:03):
A very, very difficult decision that you had
to make.
You had to make it though.
You know what I you know whatthese things I love.
SPEAKER_04 (24:10):
Between a decision and a very, very difficult
listen to this one.
I love this.
Either you make a decision or adecision will be made for you.
No, that's that's sound like thethat's that's that's in any that
applies to anything in yourlife.
Either you make a decision aboutsomething, or the or decision
will be made for you.
Somebody else, you're leaving itto somebody else to handle it,
or you handle your yourdecision.
SPEAKER_01 (24:29):
Sound like oppression on so many levels.
You get what I get what you'resaying.
Okay, you better look that way.
She's gonna get what you'resaying.
I don't get what you're saying.
SPEAKER_04 (24:35):
That's so I know because me and her from where
women are I didn't like that up.
SPEAKER_01 (24:42):
Sound like oppressions.
We just don't perception.
You so we won see we winded inthere, and I see that I see that
uh sips and t-test, yeah.
So you know, I see that thewomen of the panel tonight, two
to one, believe that you can'tbe taken.
Mean the way yeah, it would bethree to one because you know
(25:03):
she was saying, you know, likewhat taken?
You gotta want to go.
I know, I know she says whatshe's like.
But yeah, I don't wish this lifeexperience on nobody, I don't
wish nobody to be put into thissituation where somebody comes
along and fills a void that youcannot resist.
I do not want anybody to getcaught into that type of life
(25:26):
experience.
So maybe in life and your life,your life, that that it was a
decision that I could that thisvoid can remain empty.
I my personal situation had asituation had an offer made to
me.
Say, look, it's an offer for me.
Hey, look, you know, they'relooking for a sponsor.
(25:46):
Looking for a sponsor.
Look, uh big this here.
Let's go.
And you gotta go.
You ain't you ain't sitting bythat to us.
I'm gonna make a decision, ain'tno decision.
Let's go.
SPEAKER_04 (26:01):
Speaking from experience for me, this is never
happened.
I gotta make a decision if Iwant to go.
If I want to do something,nobody can make it this.
I don't want the y'all to makethe decision for me.
I'm I'm I'm so sound in my mind,and I'm gonna sit and think on
it, I'm gonna pray on it.
And when I come back, I'm like,I ain't gonna be all iffy on.
I'm gonna know what I want todo.
I'm gonna test do or don't wantto do it.
(26:22):
Yeah, I'm gonna test it.
If I do this, this is what canhappen from here to here.
If I do it this way, this iswhat can happen from here.
So, which one is it worth it?
Yeah, should I?
Yeah, all right, yeah.
It's gotta make sense.
Y'all see that yeah before Imake a decision.
Y'all see that CJ Yeti.
That's nice.
I noticed that color skin gotthe coordinate.
SPEAKER_01 (26:38):
Y'all see that CJ Yeti coordinate with that polo.
Y'all see that CJ Yeti, don'tyou?
That's nice.
Stop capping and y'all rap.
SPEAKER_04 (26:44):
Y'all see okay.
Come on, elevate boss friend.
SPEAKER_01 (26:46):
Y'all see it.
SPEAKER_04 (26:48):
Let me give it to you.
You see it.
I need an olive green one likethat.
Trust me, I got you.
That's my color.
So if you give me olive greencanteen like that, I will I will
rock it out all the time and repyour brand.
SPEAKER_01 (26:57):
Kanye West got discovered, mentored, and signed
by Dame Dash.
Rockefeller Records breaks up.
Damn Dash say, come with me.
Jay-Z say come with me.
(27:20):
Kanye, you did not have achoice.
There is no decision, it's clearwhat you about to do.
Now, Dame Dash puts you in thegame.
Loyalty.
SPEAKER_04 (27:31):
It ain't no lawyer.
But in this game, like you said,read it.
It ain't no loyalty.
You gotta read the 48 Laws ofPower.
All right, right.
The people doesn't listening.
For sure.
I hope so.
SPEAKER_01 (27:44):
What loyalty are do you speak of?
Jay-Z or Dame Dash?
SPEAKER_04 (27:49):
I think that I think that I think that I I you know,
I actually love them bothbecause I met Dame Dash, but I
actually love what they bothstand for.
SPEAKER_01 (27:56):
I do love them both, but at the end of the day, where
you going?
SPEAKER_04 (28:00):
All right.
So let's I mean who I'm goingwith who ain't gatekeeping, who
for the people.
Let's start there.
You're going with Jay-Z.
SPEAKER_01 (28:07):
But that don't mean that it's for the people.
So I hope so.
So what we're gonna do is we'regonna put an end to the fluff.
We had a great, we had a greatI'm going.
I know you are.
I know you are.
So let's do this from the fromfrom let's do this from the life
(28:29):
that I didn't live.
I come from a differentperspective.
So we're learning now, we'rebecoming sharper and learning
that this is all aboutperspective.
That's right.
And the perspective that I haveversus the perspective that
y'all have is lighting,enlightening, but I don't want
to hear all that with y'all.
Sometimes that decision comesbefore you, it ain't that you
can do it.
We gotta agree to disagree.
We gotta do this.
(28:49):
Yes, indeed.
We don't even gotta do that.
You got your opinion, you gotyour opinion, I got mine.
We don't gotta do no agreement.
SPEAKER_02 (28:55):
We can be raised in the same house and think
differently by the same people,right?
And grow up together, and I canguarantee you there are gonna be
things that they seen or youseen that are gonna be
completely perceiveddifferently.
SPEAKER_01 (29:09):
But we don't have to agree to disagree, we can just
disagree.
I don't gotta agree about it.
SPEAKER_04 (29:15):
No, we're saying that we agreeing that we don't
agree.
SPEAKER_01 (29:18):
Yeah, that's all no, we don't even gotta agree.
We just disagree.
No, no, no, it's just you gotyour opinion, you got my
opinion.
We ain't gotta even we ain'tgotta do none of that, we ain't
gotta put a title on it.
Okay, so so that's how we roll.
So, time supporters.
We got some supporters comingout there, want to see the show
do well.
All cash is verified.
Respect my Cho Detroit.
What up, though?
(29:39):
Uh, we we gotta what up, though.
You know, we gotta get a what upthough on the air.
We got Shay gonna take a littleShay working on some various
projects.
Yeah, so we gotta let her, wegotta watch her cook.
Yes, let me gotta watch Nina.
My movie be coming out.
The movie coming out, so wegotta watch working on all of
that.
We gonna we're gonna be rightthere and support.
You best believe that we'regonna be right there and
support.
(30:00):
And advocacy of everything thatshe has going on, as we stated
in the chat.
Yeah, Child Supports all cash isverified.
Anything coming in or anythinggoing out, it's verified.
We don't read it from a monetarystandpoint.
Also, to my personal supporters,uh, all cast where I appreciate
everything that my clientele andall my supporters do for me
(30:21):
personally.
So I have to say this publiclyopenly on the air.
Y'all done a great job andcontinue your continued support
is uh appreciated.
SPEAKER_04 (30:28):
So, yeah, and listen, I'll be dropping the air
on this.
Your family is like, yeah, no,no, no, listen.
SPEAKER_01 (30:33):
Come on now, we get on that.
Yeah, come on now, player.
You know it.
Is the elephant heavy?
So at the end of all at the endof all of that, we just like to
thank you.
Yeah, so can someone take youfrom someone, or do you have to
be a willing participant?
Is the topic.
(30:55):
Wait, chime in on that, commenton that, weigh in on that one.
Some people say, these peoplesay that you gotta be able to.
SPEAKER_00 (31:02):
These people, these people.
I feel it.
Yeah, we are wild.
Y'all people feel that's now asyou people.
These people feel these peoplesit here and not.
SPEAKER_01 (31:20):
These people say that you can that you have to be
a willing participant, that itthat you can't be taken.
You had to want to have done it,that it's a choice, a decision.
You should they theyaccountability, they talking
that.
I'm telling you that there aresome.
I'm telling you that there aresome people in this world that
are so beautiful, that are soelite, that are so out of this
(31:42):
world that they'll come alongand take you.
I'm gonna look him in the face.
You got took, huh?
Get you.
From who you are.
Don't forget the CJ Cups.
Get get it, get it, get a goodlook at that.
Don't get forget the CJ Cups.
We got the CJ Yeti.
We got the CJ Cups.
Don't forget the lighters.
Come on, now don't forget theproduct.
We gotta put that man.
(32:03):
I know you got your.
We gotta put it up like this.
Don't I need a new one?
That red is hot.
That red, that red is hot.
That's a Thursday night one.
That red is firing.
So we got the product's goingup.
Like I say, that you got supportthe uh from the hospitality
program, support the uh the thevendor, the vendor booth that we
got coming up.
I'm gonna have all my productsthere.
(32:23):
That's and we're gonna keep thisball bouncing.
So to the next time, you know,Nina.
Nina, we got we got you, baby.
We'll see you soon.
So to the next time, we're gonnacome back in here and do it
again.
We'll have more debatable butrelatable topics for you.
Yes, we'll uh we'll come backagain.
We're gonna get us a littlesemi-photo shoot.
(32:45):
I don't like to do it withoutNina, but we'll do it anyway.
And uh, we'll see you soon.
We'll see you soon.
Let's bless.
Did you blow a kiss?
SPEAKER_02 (32:52):
No, do it.
Yes, you did.
I did no, that was cute.
unknown (32:56):
Do it.
SPEAKER_02 (32:57):
I did not blow a kiss.
SPEAKER_01 (32:58):
Do it on that note.
Let us become shy.
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