February 5, 2025 • 40 mins
The grammy's were this past sunday and like everyone else and their mother, we have some OPINIONS (most of all how happy we are that BEYONCE WON AOTY BABYYYY)! come on in, take a seat, and let's dig into the Grammy's 2025.
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Hello and welcome, I would firstlike to start this episode off
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with a quick prayer circle.
Thank you our lord and saviorBeyonce for giving us this space
and for holding it with usallowing us the pure joy of your
existence every single day.
Amen.
Amen.
Amen.
Amen.
Thank God for Beyonce.
Thank Beyonce for Beyonce.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God.
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It's been a long time coming.
We are on the heels of Theheels?
When you say we're on the heelsof, is that the afterwards?
Yeah, because we're like on theheels of No, that's the before,
isn't it?
We're on the heels?
Yeah.
So we're on the toes.
Yes, because we're on the toes,we're on the toes of the Grammys
which, we're recording this onMonday, and if you're listening
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to this on release day, it'sWednesday, and so everything is
top of brain right now and I'mabsolutely thrilled.
Last night was magical.
It was the best Grammys thatwe've had in a while.
I feel like it was spooky howgood it was because the rest of
this year has not been thisgood.
I'm like, why is the Grammysthis good?
Is it about to be really bad?
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Did you see that SpongeBobthing?
Yeah.
You saw the SpongeBob meme andnow that's what you're saying.
Yeah, exactly.
But I made it into my own words.
So it's as if it was my ownthought.
Yeah.
I'm like, ah, this is looking alittle bit suspicious.
It was very good.
It was amazing.
Do we want to dig into it?
Perhaps.
I think we should.
Let's dig into the Grammys.
Grab a seat.
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Okay.
Oh my.
Fuck.
Where to start?
think we should start off theepisode very strong with Album
of the Year.
Yeah, let's go backwards.
Oh, 100%.
Yeah, that's what everyone'swaiting for.
Everyone's gonna wait for thealbum of the year.
Yeah.
That's what we were waiting for.
Yeah.
When we watched the Grammys, itwas supposed to be from five to
eight and they went over like anhour and a half as they always
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fucking do What were youroriginal thoughts for album of
the year?
My original thoughts for albumof the year?
I will say my album of the year,like my album of the year.
Was it wasn't nominated so DeepWell, Casey Musgraves, or Billie
Eilish.
And I really thought that Billiewould have taken it.
I really did think Billie wouldhave taken it.
I think Billie thought Billiewould take it.
No, I don't know.
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There was a, the category waslike full of incredible albums.
And then the tortured poetsdepartment.
Uh, And the men and the tworandom straight people.
And I was like only people inthis category that I'm actually
caring about are the women.
And there's four.
It was Charlie.
It was Billy.
It was Beyonce.
It was Sabrina.
Sabrina.
And then Taylor.
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I don't care about Taylor.
Oh, and Chapel.
Yeah, I didn't think Chapel wasgoing to win album of the year.
Brat really could have won.
Yeah.
For it's cultural impact.
However, as a cohesive body ofwork it had to be Miss Carter.
There was no question about it.
My thoughts were like, I was I,I knew that Beyoncé should win,
but I thought Brat was going towin.
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Just because of the Grammy'strack record?
yeah.
Oh, and probably two years ago,when Harry Styles won for that
fucking house album.
What was it called?
Harry's House?
Motherfucking Harry'smotherfucking house.
Two years ago, Harry Styles wonalbum of the year and he got on
stage and was like, this neverhappens to people like me.
When in actual fact little whiteboys plucked out of obscurity by
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Simon Cowell tend to win a lotin life.
Correct.
and Beyonce deserved to winalbum the year for Renaissance
and Lemonade.
A hundred percent.
she definitely should have wonfor Lemonade.
I'm less mad about Adele winningOver Lemonade than I was about
Harry.
Was that the, it was that theYeah, it was Adele and she was
like, Beyonce deserves thisaward.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
And Harry said, I deserve thisaward.
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Fuck you Also, where is HarryStaz now?
Where is he now?
Hello?
Album of the year.
Goblet of Carter was, it's abeautiful piece of work.
I wanted.
Personally, because truly thealbum that I gravitate more
towards to listen to everysingle day pretty much is Hit Me
Hard and Soft.
Yeah.
Cause I love Bilalash.
Bilalash.
I love Bilalash.
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I love that eyelash.
but absolutely Beyonce deservesit.
She said, and I quote, peopledon't put out albums anymore.
They just make songs and theyjust put out a quick record just
to make a quick buck.
Okay, maybe I shouldn't havequoted because it's not exactly
accurate.
Paraphrase.
But then she was like, no oneputs out like a body of work
anymore and Beyonce consistentlyis giving us bodies.
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She's giving us body after bodyof like work.
And body.
And body.
Because from the start of thealbum to the end of the album,
it is a cohesive story.
And she plays homage to.
country artists of yonder yeahshe gives a platform to upcoming
artists yeah it's incredible ithink that's so cool yeah yeah
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it's incredible it's just likethe theory that she's taking
back music that black peoplecreated and white people took
over is just not a theory butthat's what she is doing with
renaissance with house music andthen this with country music and
then the next one which is goingto be a rock album if the theory
holds true that'd be crazy ijust think it's incredible it's
like It's more than music.
She is the music industry.
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She is the person that createseverything that we do.
Sorry, Have you seen how madpeople are?
Yeah, I know people are so mad.
Like the country people?
Especially for country albums.
Especially for country albums.
Because she won country album,which I wish.
for Country Album of the Year.
Like, I love Casey with all ofmy heart, and that was the one I
wanted deeper well to win.
Yeah.
I mean, Even Beyonce wasshocked.
Yeah.
I'm very happy that Beyonce wonboth.
I wish that Casey did winCountry album.
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but I know why Beyonce won.
But there are so many countryfans that are like, this isn't
even a country album.
Oh shut up.
I'm like shut up, yes it is.
She is a genre defining,defining?
She's a genre bending artist.
Genre bending, yeah.
Genre bending.
She's doing everything.
We're bending genres.
We are creating trends.
We are like, we are the musicindustry.
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That's what I would say if I wasBeyoncé.
Also her platinum blonde hair.
Live.
And I'm like, oh my god, okay,so what am I going to wear for
the cabal choir?
She's not coming to SanFrancisco.
She's not coming to the BayArea.
Yeah, no, so she's only comingto like LA, New York, and like
Texas, and Really?
She's only doing a few cities?
No, I've not even looked at thething.
It's not a long tour.
It's way shorter thanRenaissance.
The the circle the golden circleor whatever the fuck.
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It was called Club Renaissance,yeah.
And it's gonna be called theHoedown Club or something.
Okay.
Hoedown Club.
Hoedown Throwdown.
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh my god, I can't wait toHoedown Throwdown! Do you know
what I fucking hate at concertsthough?
And I will say this hand onheart.
I will say this with my fullchest.
I hate cowboy hats.
They get in the way.
They obstruct my view.
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And I'm not the tallest personin the world, but I'm certainly
not the shortest.
This is when you wear cowboyboots with heels.
Do you remember when we were atthe Casey Musgraves concert in
fucking Austin, Texas?
And there was this giant man,this big gay man, in front of
us.
He was actually, he was like oneof the highlights of the entire
evening.
He was so tall, he was a good6'5 and his cowboy hat on top.
And he kept going like in frontof me and I was like, okay,
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you're gay so it's fine.
Oh, he was living, I was livingfor him.
but I was like, please take yourhat off.
Yeah, What are you gonna wear?
Chaps?
No, I'm not wearing chaps.
Boots?
Yeah, maybe boots.
What else is cowboy?
I don't fucking know.
You have a good thing.
What you wore to Coachella that,that time.
That is so annoying.
Matt wore this like cowboy hatthat had like pearl beads.
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It has pearls dangling allaround it like a curtain.
But it's so annoying to wear.
It's so annoying.
Yeah, but it's.
I can't see through it.
Yeah, no, but you won't bewearing it.
You'll have it around your neckmost of the time.
I might.
Cause I don't, I'm not wearing ahat.
Fall denim.
Levi's.
That's a great idea.
Yeah.
I did that for renaissance.
I wore fall denim.
That was a choice forrenaissance.
You didn't know Cowboy Carterwas coming.
I didn't know Cowboy Carter wascoming.
You didn't know.
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What if I got that butrhinestoned?
that would make more sense forrenaissance.
Yeah, there is.
I know.
That's so annoying.
I know.
That's really annoying.
I could wear the white version.
Yeah, she did white for the, Ihave the full white double
denim.
Yeah she did white denim for theSuper Bowl.
Not Super Bowl.
Hello.
The football game.
That football game.
That football game ChristmasDay.
Yeah.
The Christmas Day Beyoncé show.
Yeah, she did white denim.
Yeah, so you mean the ChristmasDay Beyoncé show.
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I do.
Yeah.
Football.
Yeah.
Sport.
Enough about Beyoncé?
I could talk about Beyoncé allday.
I'm so happy.
oh and Blue.
Blue! And Blue.
Oh.
She's so pretty.
Blue.
She's grown.
Azul.
Azul.
Baby Azul.
Did you see, she said whenevershe got up and they were looking
at each other, Blue was like,can I go up with you?
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Aww.
Of course.
Beyonce was like, of course youcan go with me.
And I was like, okay, love,okay.
And then Beyonce did aninterview and she never does
interviews.
I know, I know.
She's talking.
Yeah.
She's speaking.
Everyone's you better not fuckthis up, you guys.
Yeah.
If you fuck this up.
Yeah.
And Beyonce stops being in thepublic eye.
Like, Oh my God.
Can't deal with it anymore.
She gave an interview and shewas so happy.
And it was a long interview.
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Yeah.
She had multiple questions.
Yeah, it was great.
I was like, I thought it wasgonna be one question and done.
No, she has three questions.
She's I have time.
Yeah.
I was like, whoa.
The world is changing and we'rechanging with it.
I'm like, have we turned thisaround?
February.
It's February.
February's great.
It's February.
February's great so far.
Don't fuck it up.
Don't fuck it up.
Don't fuck it up, you listener.
Don't fuck it up.
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Okay.
What else?
Best new artist.
Oh, yeah.
This category, I feel like thisis the second most sought after
category of things that, Who wasit?
Hello?
I forgot.
Chapel.
Yeah.
Between Dochi, Chapel, Sabrina,Benson.
Benson.
Chapel.
Happy for her.
Chappelle.
Love it.
Oh, clown.
Oh, Miss Chappelle.
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That fucking what?
It's the dunce hat.
The dunce hat?
Like you get like wheneveryou're bad in school?
In like the 1920s.
Yeah, Yeah.
But she made it as like afairytale.
I think it was like more of afairytale hat.
Okay.
Like knights in like fairy taleswould wear like these big hats?
No, like wizards.
Wiz I'm sure wizards.
This is like a knight tune.
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Do you know when you've playedthe Zelda game?
Yeah.
And then you like run into thatweird wizard who just hops
around in the sky and and hecatches your attention.
Yeah.
Him.
He catches attention.
That hat.
Yeah.
Big tall wizard's hat.
So it's like either dunce orwizard.
So I don't know where she wasgoing with it.
And it was kind of annoying tome because I would just always
see it in the corner of thescreen.
I was like, what the fuck areyou wearing, girl?
Was it, were there words on it?
I don't know.
I didn't look that closely.
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The thing about about Chaperonethat I love is that she is doing
it differently.
She's doing it differently.
She's doing it.
She's doing everythingdifferently.
She has had no media training upuntil recently, I think.
She needed it.
She really fumbled so, so muchover the last I don't know, she
had a really crazy start to Noteven start to her career.
There's just like sinceCoachella and then all of the
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festivals, she had the biggestcrowd at Lollapalooza ever,
which I will say we were thereat her Coachella beginning.
We were there at the Coachellabeginning.
And the beginning of the crowdwas just like, it was like in an
indoor stage.
And then she exploded.
Lollapalooza?
Governor's Ball?
The other one in Tennessee?
Bonnaroo?
I love it for her.
She's doing so well and I loveher to death.
Yeah.
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Sometimes she says things that Idon't like.
Like when she said Kamala andDonald.
She said Kamala.
Yeah.
We're not getting into thatright now.
You know what?
This girl.
Whatever.
She has said some things thatare just like not.
What she should have said I'malso like you as an as a person
you don't need to get on theinternet and say everything you
think No But as a queer icon ina lot of ways, and someone who
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stands up for trans people, andhas this platform, I think she
could have said a lot of thingsthat she did not say.
Last night?
No, no, No, not last night in aspeech.
She had her thing that shewanted to say in the speech and
I really appreciate that shestuck to that and she was like
That's what I want to focus on.
She called out recording label.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's yeah No, she didn'tcall it the Academy.
She called out record labels.
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Oh record labels.
Yes Record and Song of the Yeargoing to Kendrick Lamar.
Now you need to explain thedifference between these.
Oh, I know.
I do know.
Because you know the differencebetween these ones.
Yeah, I do know.
I do know.
I don't.
Those beautiful things that I'vedone.
Please.
Stay! Let me take a brief momentto express my grievances to song
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slash also record of the yeardouble winner Kendrick Lamar.
Fine, it's a good song, the onlytime I've ever heard it is just
on TikTok.
I don't know if I've heard it.
I think it's a diss track toDrake.
Oh, that one.
I love.
What I will say about this isthat I love that he is an award
winner for being such a fuckinghater.
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I love that.
I eat that up.
That is true.
You wrote a song about being ahateful little bitch.
Oh my god, love that.
I relate.
I relate.
That is your favorite thing.
And now you have two awards forthat.
Actually, he won a bunch ofdifferent awards.
He won a bunch of awards forthat song.
Yeah, the smaller ones.
Good for him.
Good for him.
What's the difference betweenthe two?
Song of the Year is asongwriter's award, so basically
like the writing.
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Behind, behind the songs.
Lyrics?
Lyrics.
Ah.
Song of the year.
Lyrics.
Words.
That kind of composition.
Whereas the record of the yearis broader, recognizing a song
for its full production.
and that's also awarding theartists, producers, and
engineers involved.
Ah.
So does it include like themusic video?
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I don't think so.
Oh.
I don't think you should havewon both, no, I don't think so.
like Song of the Year, surelyrically it is like a cultural
moment.
The one I should have won wasEspresso.
Espresso wasn't in it, was it?
It was in for record of theyear.
Oh, yeah.
And good luck, babe.
Ah.
I feel like we're biased,because we're just like Girlies
only! We're like girlies wholove girlies.
Yeah, I'm just like Girliesonly.
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I'm just a gay man who wants mygirls to win.
We had a viewing party, and itwas like, No one is allowed to
come.
If you root for a man, you haveto leave.
It's not allowed.
Girls only.
And we were on such a streak.
I know.
With the rap category.
I know.
When Dochi took it the fuckhome.
I know.
I can't stop.
I know.
I can't stop thinking about it.
One of three women to win thataward.
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Best rap album.
And she's gay.
Bye.
Queer.
Everyone's gay.
I love it.
I'm so happy about it.
Can we talk about herperformance?
Can we get to that yet?
That's what I care about goingabout it.
That was the best part of theshow.
Yeah, for me, a hundred percent.
Dochi's performance wasincredible.
It was more than incrediblechange.
The outfit.
OK, the outfit she wore was thebest outfit worn to the Grammys
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this year.
though, like blazer with thecinched waist and in the pants,
Tom Brown came and he said, I'mgoing to eat these bitches up.
Period.
And the face tape.
Yeah, I know.
And it wasn't, I think the facetape was like bedazzled question
mark.
I think it had little bedazzledaround the edges of it.
Was it sparkly?
Wasn't it?
It was so good.
And then she took that off andthen she was wearing just like,
Nothing.
She didn't take it off.
It was ripped from her.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
And the wait, the production,the choreo the outfits the, just
like the fucking treadmill thingthat was on.
So cool.
Oh my God.
It was sick.
The choreo felt like it was sogood.
The choreo felt like, there wasso many body parts moving around
in such a fun way.
I was like, this looks like anorganism.
This looks like an organism madeof 20 humans.
Just like I'm glad that everyonethat I wanted to win an award,
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apart from Ray Won an award.
I don't know if Ray was like,the most relevant in the past
year.
she already won six Brit Awardslast year.
She took home what was needed inthat one work show.
In the UK, yeah.
I don't know if she It's alsobeen so long since then and she
hasn't like really released likea lot of music since.
Yeah, she released like that oneGenesis Part 2, I think.
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but like look at chapel.
I might come on.
Yeah.
The impact is way more.
I want to pivot for a second.
We can't talk about the Grammyswithout talking about.
The host.
I feel like Trevor Noah did agood job last year.
I feel like he was like fine.
I feel like he's been doing itevery year.
Why does it feel like he's beendoing it since the beginning of
time?
Did he do it the year beforetoo?
I don't know but it feels likeit.
It does feel like it, doesn'tit?
He made a joke.
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A joke.
About illegal immigrants.
Oh, yes.
Did you see?
No, kinda.
Uchis writes in her Instagramstory saying it again.
No human being is illegal.
Lame jokes.
Weak host.
yeah.
I know.
Lame jokes.
Weak host.
But this is the thing.
I feel like Trevor Noah is likea very he was a safe option for
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the Grammys, again, to have ahost like that.
Nikki Glaser.
Put her in there.
Nikki Glaser hosted the GoldenGlobes and I don't think I've
Ever experienced an award showlike that, like I've not even
seen the award show, I've onlyseen her best bits because she
is, she was that award show.
Put her the fuck in there, she'sso funny.
And like nobody, there was likeno laughs, there was no like
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anything in the Grammys lastnight.
Is the Grammys, is it becausemore people watch the Grammys
than the Golden Globes?
No, No, the Recording Academy iscompletely different, it's like
way more like strict.
The Academy is like the Oscarsand like the, and the Grammys.
It would have been so much morefunny if she like, because they
don't poke fun at thecelebrities there.
Whereas the Golden Globes, youcan just of do what you want.
Right.
But no, it would be so great Thewhole vibe is she's poking fun,
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but we are laughing together.
And then Trevor's just like,Beyonce's here.
Taylor Swift is here.
Look, it's Billie.
Also it wasn't like, not to be aDebbie Downer or not to be like,
Be it.
Not to be like, Stop being sad,but like, not to do that, but
they just kept being like, itwas like so morbid.
It was like so much about thefires and the plane crash and
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then why did the Los Angelesfire department come up?
And they're like, the thing thatthey said, like their whole
speech, that whole thing was sobeautiful.
And it was like so, like, lovelyto watch.
And then all of a sudden they'relike, And now the album of the
year goes to, I was like, thisis a weird disconnect.
I feel like this is verydystopian.
We're like having this awardsceremony, And then there's
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Donate to the fires.
You donate to the fires.
The, The amount of money, no, Ihad a problem with the like,
Asking the QR code on the screenall the time asking people at
home to donate when the amountof money in that room alone No,
I know could solve every singleproblem.
The world has ever faced No, Iknow but like also the fact that
the Grammys is happening aswell, right?
Cuz was there an award show thatdidn't happen that was gonna
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they push the Oscars back itwas, I think it's just like the
proximity that to the fires butthey did a lot of tributes.
Like the Billy performance was atribute.
Okay.
Because they had the, oh, Imissed that.
I was getting the door.
yeah, Billy's performance had a,it was like from a, it was like
a photo of a lookout from likeRunyon or something.
And it was like pictures placedexactly of people who took
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pictures at that lookout exactlywhere it is on the screen.
So it like lined up and I waslike, that was a great tribute.
And then they did the, we arethe world thing.
Yes, And then they did thefirefighters at the end.
It's kind of a lot.
Yeah, I Um, The Grammys hasreceived so much like flack in
the past.
Well, Especially for just likeprioritizing white eyes.
Yeah, the CEO gave a speech.
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Yeah, we're so sorry about beingreally shitty.
Here's the weekend.
I didn't love that.
Here's the weekend.
He came up and then he wasn'tsitting in it.
He wasn't standing in the centerof the stage.
Which really confused me.
He was like off the center ofthe stage.
No, everyone was like, we werelike, what the fuck is his
bowtie?
Yeah, his bowtie was askew.
like he was a little bit askew.
And then he was like, theweekend said that he was gonna
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boycott and then he didn't, sonow here he is.
And I was like, huh?
I like, I get it.
I get what you're doing and youcan do this behind the scenes.
I don't need a CEO to come outand be like, we're better now.
Also, the Grammys is good.
No, I know.
It feels like it I feel likepeople keep saying Oh, she's
only, Beyonce only won thisaward because the Grammys is
trying to be DEI, DEI, but like,no, she, truly, if you look at
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all of these albums together, ifyou like were to.
Dissect them.
It's a no fucking brainer thatBeyoncé is well past due her
flowers.
Totally.
The Weeknd, however I like Thatwas a weird performance.
I like, I've liked some of hismusic.
I agree.
And I just feel like he what?
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Huh?
What was he doing?
I feel like all of hisperformances are the same.
I didn't see him.
No, because he's always drowningin a mountain of clothes.
Yeah, why is he in ski gear?
I don't know.
Like why is he getting ready togo down the mountain?
I think this is his last hurrahas the weekend.
I think he's changing hispersona.
To the weekday?
Yes, it's like Tuesday.
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Hi, it's me Tuesday.
He's having a rebrand.
Might be better.
No, he's me having a rebrand.
He's not going to be, he's nolonger going as the weekend.
I think that I don't follow.
I think the idol really fuckedhim up.
Yeah.
I own this boycott.
Apparently this is so weird.
I was like, just let himperform.
Why are we talking about allthis?
Cause he boycotted the Grammys.
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He was boycotting.
We don't have to talk about it.
Why don't you just like, do theboyc he did the boycott, maybe
they had a conversation, theGrammys fixed everything, and
then we just don't talk aboutwhat happened.
I thought it was weird, I waslike, all these headlines
plastered on the Yeah, all theweird And I'm like, this is
kinda crazy.
We don't really gotta talk aboutit do it behind the scenes and
just let the Grammys be.
Good.
Like just do your job.
I mean it was good.
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It was good.
Just like pick the best artist.
Why are you still talking?
CEO.
Thank you for this show, but getoff the stage.
There were a lot of momentswhere I was like, Let's wrap
this up a little bit.
So yeah, the men like really didjust like Dragged a little bit.
Like every man that was on thestage I was just like Come on.
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Get.
Oh, we didn't talk about the wetalked about Dochi's clothes
ripping off.
We didn't talk about Benson'sclothes not ripping off.
Oh yeah, I didn't.
first of all, I was like, why ishe sat at a table with Jennifer
Lopez?
Yeah.
That's fucking weird.
And then he started, and then helike, oh my god, and then the
lights came on and he like pullsa mic out of his pocket and I'm
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like, oh, for fuck's sake.
And there he goes.
And then Heidi Klum and NikkiGlaser ripped Rip his clothes
off.
I think that was pretty good.
I was like, also why are NikkiGlaser and Heidi Klum sat
together?
That's so random.
And why are they the ones to riphis clothes off?
Yeah, it's so random.
I don't know.
It's, that was all a bit random.
Didn't like the jumpsuit.
And his back flips.
But also I was like, how tall isBen Simmons?
First time I've seen him like onTV really, stood next to people.
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Yeah.
There's a picture of him next toGracie Abrams is 5'6 I think.
And so we deduced that he can'tbe more than like 5'9 the
information about his height isnot found online.
No, I know.
It's been scrubbed.
Yeah.
He doesn't want anyone to knowhow short he is.
Suspicious.
Speaking of height, Sabrina'sperformance.
Loved it.
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But I think it's so funny thatshe is what, 5'5 She's 5 foot.
She's 5 foot?
I make quite an impression.
5 feet to be exact.
So she has a record.
To be exact.
To be exact.
She's 5 foot.
Oh yeah, she is 5 foot.
Oh, I leave quite an impression.
Five feet.
Five feet to be exact.
Be exact.
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So she's five feet.
So that means all of to beexact, to be five feet, to be
exact.
So all of our dancers have to be5 2, 5 3, 5, 4.
I don't think they're a lot tobe taller than five, but she has
heels on.
So maybe she's five, two andthen they're like, she's got
kitten on.
No.
Okay.
Five one she has a little kittenon, so maybe moving around a
lot.
So all the dancers are fivethree.
5, 4, 5, 5.
Yeah.
So that she looks, So she justlooks the normal height, she
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just looks proportional, butlike you look at her performing
and I'm like, that's a five footeight girl.
Even at Coachella, the, all thedances that she had with her at
Coachella were like short kings.
Yeah.
I think it's so great.
I love it.
Short representation.
It matters.
It matters.
Also the amount of people whodon't know she was wearing a wig
or that she wears a wig.
Alarming.
There's a bunch of systems inthere.
Alarming.
She's wearing a great wig.
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That is a fantastic wig.
I love that now every singlething we've spoken about men has
been completely negative.
All women.
Obviously.
Because the women like ate down,the men came out and they were
like, huh?
And the women were like, okay,here we fucking go.
Performances by SabrinaCarpenter.
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She did, oh my God, she did thebest.
I think it was incredible.
I think it was the bestperformance.
No, Dochi.
Oh, sorry.
No, you can't.
I feel like Dochi's, Sabrina's,Chappel's was great.
Chappel's was great.
Stay with Sabrina for a second.
Outfit.
Outfit.
Outfit.
I don't think anyone looksbetter in blue.
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That's a really pretty blue.
That is like a power colour.
That's the blue that you wantour car to be.
I always say, oh my god, it'sthe thing about me.
Every time I see a nice bluecar, I'm like, oh, that's such a
nice blue.
generally, I don't really likethe color blue, but on her,
there's like a shade of blue andit's that shade of blue that I'm
like, I could eat that.
Yeah.
I could eat that.
I could eat that.
Yeah.
It tastes like cotton candy.
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Oh my God.
I could eat that.
Oh my God.
I could eat that.
And it would be short and sweet.
Yeah.
It would be short and sweet.
She is so funny.
She is so funny on stage.
I think she's so stupid.
She's a fucking Disney girl.
I love her.
That's why Miley's like the waythat she is.
Miley came out to announce.
Maybe record or song.
Yeah.
One of those.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
And she was like, Beyonce, wewon for Country Duo.
Oh yeah.
It was a country duo or like popcountry duo?
No, it was, it like just Duo.
It was just duo.
It was a duo.
One with guests and, and no itwasn't.
No?
No.
Because Bruno Mars and Lady Gagatook that fucking, for the
Trolls song.
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The Trolls song?
Is that a Trolls song?
I think it was on the Trollsmovie wasn't it?
That was on the Trolls movie.
It was?
It wasn't really?
Yeah! It wasn't.
Ew! If the world could die, thenI want to be next to you.
Also, what the fuck is shewearing?
Let's talk about Lady Gaga for asecond.
Lady.
My icon.
Miss Gaga.
Mrs.
Lady.
(24:45):
Mrs.
Lady.
Mrs.
Gentle Lady.
Oh my god, what are you doing?
Her eyebrows blocked off soiconic, her hair is banged up.
Banged.
It's so banged, it's so bangedup there's no bangs.
The thing, also, I feel likeLady Gaga is such a like a, she
is like an artist of our, likean artist of our generation.
Yeah.
Because nobody's doing it likeLady Gaga.
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Abracadabra.
She released.
this song and music video in themiddle of the Grammys.
In a commercial break as acommercial, I didn't even watch.
Did you?
Did you all watch it?
Yeah.
Oh, you did?
You didn't watch it?
No, I was for having a cigaretteobsessed.
Oh yeah, Yeah.
No, she released the entiremusic video as a commercial and
we were all watching, and I waslike, this cannot be the entire
music video.
The entire song played, and thenby the end of it.
(25:27):
As soon as she's like, however,however it ends, it was like
presented by MasterCard.
And I was like, that was afucking ad.
That was an ad girl.
And we were like, I was like,there has to be like some kind
of sponsor in here.
So she's going to be holdinglike a diet Pepsi or like
swiping a MasterCard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then it was like presentedby MasterCard.
Yeah.
We all died laughing.
It was incredible.
Yeah.
It was everything that I'vewanted.
(25:48):
You'll have to watch it, won'tI?
It's everything that I'vewanted.
from Gaga again, because she'shad her she's had her she's been
on a journey.
She's been jazz.
She's done country and what thefuck was the Joker the Joker?
We're not talking about theJoker She did this joke at the
Golden Globe.
She was like that the movie thatthe Joker Nothing was good about
it.
And she's oh, where's the table?
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I'm like, oh, they're not hereexactly But now she's back She's
done a, she's done a whole 360.
She's gone around the deck.
I love when, like, when artistshave a a new look for An old
sound?
No.
Oh, I thought I was gonna readyour mind.
I love when an artist has a newlook for a new era of music that
they're doing.
(26:29):
Yeah.
Even though this is very artpop.
Yeah.
Cause art pop was before it'stime.
Art pop needs to have a roundtwo, and I feel like this is
gonna be art pop's round two.
Just in a different form.
Do you feel like Chromatica waslike not as celebrated because
of the pandemic?
Yeah.
Do you feel like it would've ahundred percent It would've been
like way crazier.
Totally.
Because we missed out well, itreleased and then we couldn't do
the chromatica balls, and thenshe did the chromatic balls oh,
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later, two years later.
Two years later.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We did the, so I'm like, wemissed the whole, which we went
to.
In Stockholm, Sweden.
And if you know anything aboutthe Swedish crowd, they do not
know how to get down.
They remember when Beyonce,started the renaissance tour in
Stockholm.
So bad.
She was like, can you like movearound a little bit?
Everybody on mute.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, no, but then like alsothere was no energy.
(27:12):
No.
Like we were like in, we finnabe in the pit.
Love you Swedes, but they don't.
We were like in the goldencircle.
That's what they call it.
The very front.
And someone said, Oh, you knowall the words.
She turned around to us and shewas like, Oh my God, you know
all the words.
And we were like, we were sayinglike bad romance.
And she was like, you know, allthe words don't, you know, I was
like, yeah, my paws are up.
Little monsters.
My paws are up.
(27:33):
Oh, I'm about to be a littlemonster again.
This is going to be crazy.
When does it come out?
I don't know.
Soon?
Hopefully.
I don't know.
I feel like I've fallen off theGaga train.
Girl, get back on.
Abracadabra.
I really was in.
Did you watch the music videoyet?
You haven't watched it.
I told you.
The whole conversation.
I know, but I forgot.
So you have to watch it.
I haven't seen it.
Let's watch it.
Because Disease, I was like,that's fine.
But like, people keep saying shedoes this.
I feel like she will release asong, Disease, and then the
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second single is the bad one.
No.
Abracadabra is everything thatyou've ever wanted.
dubstep.
Yeah.
Gaga.
Bruno.
Bye.
He's so small.
We're not talking about MarinaMars anymore.
I want to punch him.
I refuse.
Chapel Rowan performed Pink PonyClub with a beautiful tribute to
LA.
Yeah.
I love that.
I love that she didn't domultiple songs.
I appreciate that she just didPink Pony Club.
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I would have assumed she wouldhave done Good Luck Babe because
it was nominated for so manythings.
I think it was, it made sense todo Pink Pony Club.
Which was a really cute tributeto LA for allowing her to be
herself.
Yeah.
A lesbian! Who's a wee lesbian?
She's a wee lesbian.
That horse has seen some thingsthough.
I will say the horse she was on.
(28:35):
That horse was cracked out.
Cracked out or had seen sometrauma.
Oh my god.
The clowns did freak me out alittle bit.
It was a circus and I was herefor it.
Shakira?
Shakira?
Shakira?
apparently Shakira's had tworibs removed, as we found out
last night.
What?! That could have been arumor.
Yeah, so this might be hearsay.
Hearsay?
Or a lie?
Hearsay.
It might be a lie, but we werediscussing last night in great
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depth.
Which means there's some shredof truth in it.
That she had two ribs removed?
So she could, Yeah, I don'twanna know what it is.
What did she do?
in more movement.
What is she saying?
I don't wanna know what it is.
I don't wanna know what it is.
I don't know why she sounds likea viking.
Shakira, hipster.
She won an album.
(29:18):
She won Latin Album of the Year.
I was very confused about that.
I didn't know she released analbum this year.
I didn't know people listened tothat album.
I knew she released it, but Ididn't know it was listened to.
Cause Kali Uchi should've won.
Period.
And Kali Uchis looked fuckingsensational last night.
I'm just saying, I'm justsaying, I love Kali Uchis.
Let's talk about more women.
Rae.
(29:38):
Let's talk about more women.
Let's talk about more women.
Rae, that performance.
Her performances are alwayseverything.
One thing about Rae is she isgoing to sing the house down
boots.
She is an artist.
Some people are like singers.
She is an artiste.
That like long, I recorded itand it was like 17 seconds.
The last note.
17 seconds of full belt.
(30:00):
That's crazy.
And it's so effortless.
Oh my god.
And she's fully like, I love herlike fluid move.
Oh my god.
People don't really know abouther.
No, I know.
I know.
I know because she's like new tothe States.
Yeah.
But she's been that girl.
She's crazy.
She has been.
Her riffs.
Also she's just like barefoot.
Girl.
And she's so funny.
We saw her at Coachella.
She is hilarious on stage.
Yeah, I love her so much.
(30:20):
I think she's incredible.
I also love when she like,sings, she wraps the cord of the
mic around her entire body.
Yeah.
It's just fully draped aroundher entire being.
She just wants to be one withthe music.
She, and she is.
She is.
Have you seen her, any of herclips from the Prince Albert
Hall performance that she did?
No.
With the like, live orchestra?
No.
Oh my fuck.
She performs the album with alive band.
(30:43):
It's like the The one that UAdid.
Yes, exactly.
Did she do that exact samething?
Yes.
That was great.
Exactly that.
That was great.
Every artist should have to dothat to see if they can actually
sing.
Yeah Charlie.
Talk about, Talk about notsinging.
Oh my god.
Talk about not singing.
A pre recorded little moment.
I forgot about Charlie.
That was incredible.
Exactly.
(31:03):
In my mind, do you think it wasincredible?
Yes, because I think it wasCharlie.
I think it was incrediblebecause it was her.
Tell me what you liked about it.
I loved the beginning part.
And I'll tell you what I didn'tlike about it.
So I loved, okay, let me go fromthe beginning.
We had the car, we panned over,and it said, Charles, it said
XCX, I think on the licenseplate.
It did say XCX.
And I was like, that was cute.
And then she came out.
(31:24):
She had a champagne hand, shethrew the champagne away.
She's I don't want that.
The champagne was handed to herand she was like, I actually
don't want this anymore.
She's Came in, Alex Consani.
behind her.
I'm the other one who was likereally struggling to keep up.
She was good.
The one behind the other one.
She looked good.
She was like, she looked good.
Struggling to catch up.
Well, Cause Alex Cassani isseven feet tall.
That giraffe, I love her.
Alex Cassani came in and I waslike, love that.
(31:45):
Walked in, came around.
don't think we even saw hereyes.
You don't want to see her eyes.
No, I know because she's onsubstances.
And then we had that little moshmoment and I was like, that's
fun.
I love that.
Came in and then she started tosing.
Well, She wasn't singing then.
I was like, this sounds goodbecause she's not singing.
Came in, started singing, and Iwas like, There she is.
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Oh, there she is.
There's my girl.
There's the autotune.
There's the autotune that wedesperately need.
I wish she didn't do Guess,though.
Why?
I wish she didn't do Guess,because I feel like that song is
quite flat on its own.
Without Billie.
Like, Billie's right there.
Like, why would you not have heralso come on?
I understand it's Charlie'smoment to do her own thing.
then I feel like she should havedone 360.
(32:26):
Cause Julia Fox is right there.
And it was Julia Fox's birthday.
That is true.
It was Julia Fox's birthday.
Our Aquarius Queen.
Hmm.
And she performed Guess, andthere's just a bunch of
underwear flying around.
Also, people have been like,Like, people have been saying
that the camera work was reallybad.
Yeah.
The cameraman didn't Cause therewas so much going on.
Oh yeah, totally.
There was so much movement.
There was a lot of floor.
Yeah.
The cameraman was fucking up alot.
(32:47):
Cause it was like, a little bitcrazy.
I think it was supposed to bethe art direction of that
performance was supposed to be,like, chaotic.
We're moving around, thecamera's like, woah, Yeah,
camera work, messy, could havebeen better.
360, I feel like that would havebeen a better song choice.
I think she just wanted theunderwear flying around her
because of the music video.
Yeah, makes sense.
I liked it.
I liked it.
Was it the best performance?
No.
Because, no.
(33:07):
I feel like it should have beenearlier too.
That, the vibe.
Yeah.
The vibe of that performance.
Very party.
And the vibe of the party.
It's getting the party side.
It should have been at thebeginning.
Yeah.
Not the end.
Yeah.
obviously they do announceawards outside of the actual
like live show of it.
Forget about that sometimes.
Von Dutch won, is this herfirst, first ever Grammy win?
(33:29):
So she did win, I think threeGrammys last night.
Brat won best dance andelectronic album.
And, which is great, that's agreat, which is I think what
renaissance won in 20, 20, yeah,three.
And then Von Dutch won bestdance pop recording.
Good job, Charlie.
It's not my favourite song, soAnyway, Taylor Swift didn't win
anything.
(33:49):
Womp.
And that's all that reallymatters.
She campaigned so much to Stayin the charts all throughout
2024.
For what?
She like, blocked Billie fromgetting number one.
She blocked Charlie from gettingnumber one.
Whoever else she blocked.
There was someone else.
By releasing 50, 000 versions ofthe same album.
Yeah.
Oh, we've discussed that we donot approve of Miss Swift and
(34:13):
her actions.
And her actions as of late.
They're, she's gross.
Sorry.
She's a little gross right now.
She looked fucking stunningthough.
She did.
Also, I really love that she wasthe one that presented the
country music, country album ofthe year.
Yeah.
To Beyonce.
That was cute.
Yeah.
Best dressed.
Top of the list, I have.
Dochi.
Yeah, top of the list.
If we're doing top of the list.
Yeah, tippy top list.
(34:33):
I have a list just cause, okay,tippy top.
Dochi.
Top of the list.
Dochi was the best dressed.
Dochi was the best dressed.
100%.
Boots.
Boo boots.
Boots.
That Tom Brown, because it waslike the outfit was Tom Brown
and then the extra, like thegiant pantaloons.
That is unbelievable.
And she looked like her face.
Oh, she's just stunning.
(34:54):
Her face card was, ah! Snatched.
Snatched.
Truly pulled back.
With that face tape.
Which I love.
I love it.
Taylor Swift's Vivian Westwood,the red.
Yeah.
It was cute.
I liked it.
And someone also said that shedidn't look like she was dressed
to win an award.
No.
Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
She didn't put like that mucheffort into it.
No.
It's a good dress.
Yeah, but not as much effort asshe would nor like on the
(35:15):
Midnight's win, when she won forMidnight's.
Yeah, Yeah.
Also, why the f Fuck.
The beginning of the show wasshe sat on Cynthia Reeve and was
like, Get off of her.
Get off of her.
I feel like she, whenever she'sat these mu Did you hear her
with the bottle of wine in herhands?
No.
She was like, there's a video ofher dancing, and she had the
bottle of wine.
It's a guess.
It's a guess.
Oh, okay.
And she was like dancing withthe bottle of wine in her hands,
(35:35):
like jumping around.
She just like moves around thewhole Grammys.
arena.
She's trying to find thecameras.
Yeah, she's finding the camera.
She's going to different peopleI'm like, where's your table
when jack antonoff won like bestwhatever the fuck he does I want
you to give him a nuggy.
She was giving him a nuggy like,uh, so weird And Lana Del Rey's
behind them, and she's What thefuck are you doing?
Get off the stage.
(35:55):
And then she was dragged ontostage.
That's Oh no, I'm not talkingabout that.
By Taylor Swift?
I'm not talking about that.
Yeah.
Not that Grammys.
We don't talk about We only talkabout this Grammys.
I'm still too distressed by thatmoment.
I'm like, why would you bring onShe like, brought her on because
she was part of the album.
Yeah.
But why would you bring her on?
Because she was also in thecategory, and she lost to you.
Why the fuck would you bring heron?
And she's sitting in thebackground like So weird.
This is really crazy.
(36:16):
I don't like this.
Let's only talk about thisGrammys.
That Grammys doesn't exist.
Yeah.
Lana's my girl, who else?
Sabrina Carpenter and her customJ.
W.
Anderson blue gown.
I loved what she was wearing inthe pre recorded video before
her performance.
Which was what?
The striped, it was like astriped dress and her waist was
like Oh my god! Her waist waslike a centimetre across Oh my
god, it was crazy I was like,where is it?
She sat in like the director'schair Yeah, I was like, where is
(36:38):
it?
Oh my god, I know, That's crazyHow do you look like this?
Well, She's corseted down Iknow, but still No Where is it?
It was a beautiful dress too andI was like, the stripes are just
like, oh Dunning It was stunningOlivia Rodrigo.
Yeah, oh yeah.
Was wearing archival Versace.
Whoa.
And so she has been like, so inher like punk rock era.
It's just nice to see her belike, I don't know, a bit more.
(37:00):
Yeah.
Grown.
I loved it.
A bit grown.
How old is she?
I don't even know.
Five.
She's, she looks fuckingphenomenal.
Yeah.
Oh my fucking god.
Yeah.
She looks incredible.
We've talked about Lady Gaga'sinsane.
Looks for her insane new era.
Yeah, I like it.
Although I didn't like it.
I didn't like what she wore tothe performance.
She looked like a peasant girl.
The performance she did withBruno Mars.
(37:20):
Oh yeah, no.
Also she was like fully likebent over.
Her moves are like, she's backin her, she's back in her little
monster era.
Let her be crazy.
We need more crazy in the world.
Meat dress.
Do it again.
We need more meat.
Yeah.
We need more meat on the runway.
Yeah.
That's what we need.
And then Chapel's looks werejust like.
There was someone else who had awaist wear.
I got, there were very likechapel outfits.
(37:42):
Someone had a waist wear momentand I can't remember.
Someone else did have a waistwear moment.
Corsets are here.
Corsets are the thing right now.
Corsets are in right now.
I love it.
Yeah, I love them.
No more waists! Boycott thewaists! You could only be a
speck of dust.
It is back, I mean it is.
We've gone full circle.
What, like early two thousands.
Early two thousands.
(38:03):
Skinny?
Yeah.
It is cyclical.
It's crazy like it is, and we'reback in the skinny era.
Oh God.
That's terrifying.
Yeah.
The thigh gap 2025.
D bring it back.
Bring back the gap.
Thigh gap is crazy.
Bring back the gap.
I remember, like I rememberbeing in high school and girls
would talk about.
Or be self conscious about thefact that they didn't have a
thigh gap.
And I'm like, that's reallybizarre.
Like, That's crazy to want.
(38:24):
Eat a burger.
Eat a burger.
And that will leave you.
Eat a burger.
Yeah.
I'm so glad we dug into eatingburgers.
That was deep.
That was a deep hole.
We did dig deep.
So much for listening.
That was crazy.
What a crazy way to startFebruary.
I'm so happy.
Crazy.
I was so distraught in January.
Guys, we're so happy.
Now I'm happy.
We're back.
We were gone in January for 000days, And now we're back.
(38:47):
It was 81 days of January.
February will be so much better.
And it's shorter.
Thank fuck.
Yeah.
Someone was saying January isthe Monday of the week, of the
year.
I agree.
And then February is theTuesday.
Yeah, I agree.
But I don't agree with that.
Why?
Because February's, Tuesdays arelong days.
Sometimes I'm like, it's stillTuesday.
(39:08):
Hey guys, it's still Tuesday.
Did you know that?
I used to, I, no, that's astupid joke.
Okay, bye.
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What did you think about theGrammys?
What were your favorites?
what were your highlights?
And what were your lowlights?
(39:28):
Lowlights! And what were yourmiddlelights?
Peaks, pits, and troughs.
Trough?
What?
Peaks, pits, and troughs.
Isn't that a thing?
No! Oh, it's rose, thorn in abud.
It's a draw.
Draw.
I like it.
Where is the pig coming intothis?
Peaks?
Yeah.
Up here.
Yeah.
Pits down there.
Trough.
Yeah, a trough in the middle.
(39:50):
Yeah.
I don't know where that camefrom.
That's really weird.
I really don't know where thatcame from.
I've never heard of that before.
Neither have I.
That's the thing.
But the thing is, neither haveI.
Trough?
Like for a pig?
Yeah, or if you go to one ofthose nasty gay clubs and
there's nowhere to pee apartfrom a trough.
So what was your peak bit andtrough of the Grammys?
(40:12):
Where did that come from?
Your mind is a wonder.
It's a chasm.
Your mind is a trough.
My mind just got possessed by alittle demon twink.
See ya! Bye.
Hello and welcome, I would firstlike to start this episode off
(00:02):
with a quick prayer circle.
Thank you our lord and saviorBeyonce for giving us this space
and for holding it with usallowing us the pure joy of your
existence every single day.
Amen.
Amen.
Amen.
Amen.
Thank God for Beyonce.
Thank Beyonce for Beyonce.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God.
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It's been a long time coming.
We are on the heels of Theheels?
When you say we're on the heelsof, is that the afterwards?
Yeah, because we're like on theheels of No, that's the before,
isn't it?
We're on the heels?
Yeah.
So we're on the toes.
Yes, because we're on the toes,we're on the toes of the Grammys
which, we're recording this onMonday, and if you're listening
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to this on release day, it'sWednesday, and so everything is
top of brain right now and I'mabsolutely thrilled.
Last night was magical.
It was the best Grammys thatwe've had in a while.
I feel like it was spooky howgood it was because the rest of
this year has not been thisgood.
I'm like, why is the Grammysthis good?
Is it about to be really bad?
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Did you see that SpongeBobthing?
Yeah.
You saw the SpongeBob meme andnow that's what you're saying.
Yeah, exactly.
But I made it into my own words.
So it's as if it was my ownthought.
Yeah.
I'm like, ah, this is looking alittle bit suspicious.
It was very good.
It was amazing.
Do we want to dig into it?
Perhaps.
I think we should.
Let's dig into the Grammys.
Grab a seat.
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Okay.
Oh my.
Fuck.
Where to start?
think we should start off theepisode very strong with Album
of the Year.
Yeah, let's go backwards.
Oh, 100%.
Yeah, that's what everyone'swaiting for.
Everyone's gonna wait for thealbum of the year.
Yeah.
That's what we were waiting for.
Yeah.
When we watched the Grammys, itwas supposed to be from five to
eight and they went over like anhour and a half as they always
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fucking do What were youroriginal thoughts for album of
the year?
My original thoughts for albumof the year?
I will say my album of the year,like my album of the year.
Was it wasn't nominated so DeepWell, Casey Musgraves, or Billie
Eilish.
And I really thought that Billiewould have taken it.
I really did think Billie wouldhave taken it.
I think Billie thought Billiewould take it.
No, I don't know.
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There was a, the category waslike full of incredible albums.
And then the tortured poetsdepartment.
Uh, And the men and the tworandom straight people.
And I was like only people inthis category that I'm actually
caring about are the women.
And there's four.
It was Charlie.
It was Billy.
It was Beyonce.
It was Sabrina.
Sabrina.
And then Taylor.
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I don't care about Taylor.
Oh, and Chapel.
Yeah, I didn't think Chapel wasgoing to win album of the year.
Brat really could have won.
Yeah.
For it's cultural impact.
However, as a cohesive body ofwork it had to be Miss Carter.
There was no question about it.
My thoughts were like, I was I,I knew that Beyoncé should win,
but I thought Brat was going towin.
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Just because of the Grammy'strack record?
yeah.
Oh, and probably two years ago,when Harry Styles won for that
fucking house album.
What was it called?
Harry's House?
Motherfucking Harry'smotherfucking house.
Two years ago, Harry Styles wonalbum of the year and he got on
stage and was like, this neverhappens to people like me.
When in actual fact little whiteboys plucked out of obscurity by
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Simon Cowell tend to win a lotin life.
Correct.
and Beyonce deserved to winalbum the year for Renaissance
and Lemonade.
A hundred percent.
she definitely should have wonfor Lemonade.
I'm less mad about Adele winningOver Lemonade than I was about
Harry.
Was that the, it was that theYeah, it was Adele and she was
like, Beyonce deserves thisaward.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
And Harry said, I deserve thisaward.
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Fuck you Also, where is HarryStaz now?
Where is he now?
Hello?
Album of the year.
Goblet of Carter was, it's abeautiful piece of work.
I wanted.
Personally, because truly thealbum that I gravitate more
towards to listen to everysingle day pretty much is Hit Me
Hard and Soft.
Yeah.
Cause I love Bilalash.
Bilalash.
I love Bilalash.
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I love that eyelash.
but absolutely Beyonce deservesit.
She said, and I quote, peopledon't put out albums anymore.
They just make songs and theyjust put out a quick record just
to make a quick buck.
Okay, maybe I shouldn't havequoted because it's not exactly
accurate.
Paraphrase.
But then she was like, no oneputs out like a body of work
anymore and Beyonce consistentlyis giving us bodies.
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She's giving us body after bodyof like work.
And body.
And body.
Because from the start of thealbum to the end of the album,
it is a cohesive story.
And she plays homage to.
country artists of yonder yeahshe gives a platform to upcoming
artists yeah it's incredible ithink that's so cool yeah yeah
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it's incredible it's just likethe theory that she's taking
back music that black peoplecreated and white people took
over is just not a theory butthat's what she is doing with
renaissance with house music andthen this with country music and
then the next one which is goingto be a rock album if the theory
holds true that'd be crazy ijust think it's incredible it's
like It's more than music.
She is the music industry.
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She is the person that createseverything that we do.
Sorry, Have you seen how madpeople are?
Yeah, I know people are so mad.
Like the country people?
Especially for country albums.
Especially for country albums.
Because she won country album,which I wish.
for Country Album of the Year.
Like, I love Casey with all ofmy heart, and that was the one I
wanted deeper well to win.
Yeah.
I mean, Even Beyonce wasshocked.
Yeah.
I'm very happy that Beyonce wonboth.
I wish that Casey did winCountry album.
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but I know why Beyonce won.
But there are so many countryfans that are like, this isn't
even a country album.
Oh shut up.
I'm like shut up, yes it is.
She is a genre defining,defining?
She's a genre bending artist.
Genre bending, yeah.
Genre bending.
She's doing everything.
We're bending genres.
We are creating trends.
We are like, we are the musicindustry.
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That's what I would say if I wasBeyoncé.
Also her platinum blonde hair.
Live.
And I'm like, oh my god, okay,so what am I going to wear for
the cabal choir?
She's not coming to SanFrancisco.
She's not coming to the BayArea.
Yeah, no, so she's only comingto like LA, New York, and like
Texas, and Really?
She's only doing a few cities?
No, I've not even looked at thething.
It's not a long tour.
It's way shorter thanRenaissance.
The the circle the golden circleor whatever the fuck.
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It was called Club Renaissance,yeah.
And it's gonna be called theHoedown Club or something.
Okay.
Hoedown Club.
Hoedown Throwdown.
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh my god, I can't wait toHoedown Throwdown! Do you know
what I fucking hate at concertsthough?
And I will say this hand onheart.
I will say this with my fullchest.
I hate cowboy hats.
They get in the way.
They obstruct my view.
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And I'm not the tallest personin the world, but I'm certainly
not the shortest.
This is when you wear cowboyboots with heels.
Do you remember when we were atthe Casey Musgraves concert in
fucking Austin, Texas?
And there was this giant man,this big gay man, in front of
us.
He was actually, he was like oneof the highlights of the entire
evening.
He was so tall, he was a good6'5 and his cowboy hat on top.
And he kept going like in frontof me and I was like, okay,
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you're gay so it's fine.
Oh, he was living, I was livingfor him.
but I was like, please take yourhat off.
Yeah, What are you gonna wear?
Chaps?
No, I'm not wearing chaps.
Boots?
Yeah, maybe boots.
What else is cowboy?
I don't fucking know.
You have a good thing.
What you wore to Coachella that,that time.
That is so annoying.
Matt wore this like cowboy hatthat had like pearl beads.
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It has pearls dangling allaround it like a curtain.
But it's so annoying to wear.
It's so annoying.
Yeah, but it's.
I can't see through it.
Yeah, no, but you won't bewearing it.
You'll have it around your neckmost of the time.
I might.
Cause I don't, I'm not wearing ahat.
Fall denim.
Levi's.
That's a great idea.
Yeah.
I did that for renaissance.
I wore fall denim.
That was a choice forrenaissance.
You didn't know Cowboy Carterwas coming.
I didn't know Cowboy Carter wascoming.
You didn't know.
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What if I got that butrhinestoned?
that would make more sense forrenaissance.
Yeah, there is.
I know.
That's so annoying.
I know.
That's really annoying.
I could wear the white version.
Yeah, she did white for the, Ihave the full white double
denim.
Yeah she did white denim for theSuper Bowl.
Not Super Bowl.
Hello.
The football game.
That football game.
That football game ChristmasDay.
Yeah.
The Christmas Day Beyoncé show.
Yeah, she did white denim.
Yeah, so you mean the ChristmasDay Beyoncé show.
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I do.
Yeah.
Football.
Yeah.
Sport.
Enough about Beyoncé?
I could talk about Beyoncé allday.
I'm so happy.
oh and Blue.
Blue! And Blue.
Oh.
She's so pretty.
Blue.
She's grown.
Azul.
Azul.
Baby Azul.
Did you see, she said whenevershe got up and they were looking
at each other, Blue was like,can I go up with you?
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Aww.
Of course.
Beyonce was like, of course youcan go with me.
And I was like, okay, love,okay.
And then Beyonce did aninterview and she never does
interviews.
I know, I know.
She's talking.
Yeah.
She's speaking.
Everyone's you better not fuckthis up, you guys.
Yeah.
If you fuck this up.
Yeah.
And Beyonce stops being in thepublic eye.
Like, Oh my God.
Can't deal with it anymore.
She gave an interview and shewas so happy.
And it was a long interview.
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Yeah.
She had multiple questions.
Yeah, it was great.
I was like, I thought it wasgonna be one question and done.
No, she has three questions.
She's I have time.
Yeah.
I was like, whoa.
The world is changing and we'rechanging with it.
I'm like, have we turned thisaround?
February.
It's February.
February's great.
It's February.
February's great so far.
Don't fuck it up.
Don't fuck it up.
Don't fuck it up, you listener.
Don't fuck it up.
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Okay.
What else?
Best new artist.
Oh, yeah.
This category, I feel like thisis the second most sought after
category of things that, Who wasit?
Hello?
I forgot.
Chapel.
Yeah.
Between Dochi, Chapel, Sabrina,Benson.
Benson.
Chapel.
Happy for her.
Chappelle.
Love it.
Oh, clown.
Oh, Miss Chappelle.
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That fucking what?
It's the dunce hat.
The dunce hat?
Like you get like wheneveryou're bad in school?
In like the 1920s.
Yeah, Yeah.
But she made it as like afairytale.
I think it was like more of afairytale hat.
Okay.
Like knights in like fairy taleswould wear like these big hats?
No, like wizards.
Wiz I'm sure wizards.
This is like a knight tune.
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Do you know when you've playedthe Zelda game?
Yeah.
And then you like run into thatweird wizard who just hops
around in the sky and and hecatches your attention.
Yeah.
Him.
He catches attention.
That hat.
Yeah.
Big tall wizard's hat.
So it's like either dunce orwizard.
So I don't know where she wasgoing with it.
And it was kind of annoying tome because I would just always
see it in the corner of thescreen.
I was like, what the fuck areyou wearing, girl?
Was it, were there words on it?
I don't know.
I didn't look that closely.
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The thing about about Chaperonethat I love is that she is doing
it differently.
She's doing it differently.
She's doing it.
She's doing everythingdifferently.
She has had no media training upuntil recently, I think.
She needed it.
She really fumbled so, so muchover the last I don't know, she
had a really crazy start to Noteven start to her career.
There's just like sinceCoachella and then all of the
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festivals, she had the biggestcrowd at Lollapalooza ever,
which I will say we were thereat her Coachella beginning.
We were there at the Coachellabeginning.
And the beginning of the crowdwas just like, it was like in an
indoor stage.
And then she exploded.
Lollapalooza?
Governor's Ball?
The other one in Tennessee?
Bonnaroo?
I love it for her.
She's doing so well and I loveher to death.
Yeah.
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Sometimes she says things that Idon't like.
Like when she said Kamala andDonald.
She said Kamala.
Yeah.
We're not getting into thatright now.
You know what?
This girl.
Whatever.
She has said some things thatare just like not.
What she should have said I'malso like you as an as a person
you don't need to get on theinternet and say everything you
think No But as a queer icon ina lot of ways, and someone who
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stands up for trans people, andhas this platform, I think she
could have said a lot of thingsthat she did not say.
Last night?
No, no, No, not last night in aspeech.
She had her thing that shewanted to say in the speech and
I really appreciate that shestuck to that and she was like
That's what I want to focus on.
She called out recording label.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's yeah No, she didn'tcall it the Academy.
She called out record labels.
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Oh record labels.
Yes Record and Song of the Yeargoing to Kendrick Lamar.
Now you need to explain thedifference between these.
Oh, I know.
I do know.
Because you know the differencebetween these ones.
Yeah, I do know.
I do know.
I don't.
Those beautiful things that I'vedone.
Please.
Stay! Let me take a brief momentto express my grievances to song
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slash also record of the yeardouble winner Kendrick Lamar.
Fine, it's a good song, the onlytime I've ever heard it is just
on TikTok.
I don't know if I've heard it.
I think it's a diss track toDrake.
Oh, that one.
I love.
What I will say about this isthat I love that he is an award
winner for being such a fuckinghater.
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I love that.
I eat that up.
That is true.
You wrote a song about being ahateful little bitch.
Oh my god, love that.
I relate.
I relate.
That is your favorite thing.
And now you have two awards forthat.
Actually, he won a bunch ofdifferent awards.
He won a bunch of awards forthat song.
Yeah, the smaller ones.
Good for him.
Good for him.
What's the difference betweenthe two?
Song of the Year is asongwriter's award, so basically
like the writing.
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Behind, behind the songs.
Lyrics?
Lyrics.
Ah.
Song of the year.
Lyrics.
Words.
That kind of composition.
Whereas the record of the yearis broader, recognizing a song
for its full production.
and that's also awarding theartists, producers, and
engineers involved.
Ah.
So does it include like themusic video?
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I don't think so.
Oh.
I don't think you should havewon both, no, I don't think so.
like Song of the Year, surelyrically it is like a cultural
moment.
The one I should have won wasEspresso.
Espresso wasn't in it, was it?
It was in for record of theyear.
Oh, yeah.
And good luck, babe.
Ah.
I feel like we're biased,because we're just like Girlies
only! We're like girlies wholove girlies.
Yeah, I'm just like Girliesonly.
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I'm just a gay man who wants mygirls to win.
We had a viewing party, and itwas like, No one is allowed to
come.
If you root for a man, you haveto leave.
It's not allowed.
Girls only.
And we were on such a streak.
I know.
With the rap category.
I know.
When Dochi took it the fuckhome.
I know.
I can't stop.
I know.
I can't stop thinking about it.
One of three women to win thataward.
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Best rap album.
And she's gay.
Bye.
Queer.
Everyone's gay.
I love it.
I'm so happy about it.
Can we talk about herperformance?
Can we get to that yet?
That's what I care about goingabout it.
That was the best part of theshow.
Yeah, for me, a hundred percent.
Dochi's performance wasincredible.
It was more than incrediblechange.
The outfit.
OK, the outfit she wore was thebest outfit worn to the Grammys
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this year.
though, like blazer with thecinched waist and in the pants,
Tom Brown came and he said, I'mgoing to eat these bitches up.
Period.
And the face tape.
Yeah, I know.
And it wasn't, I think the facetape was like bedazzled question
mark.
I think it had little bedazzledaround the edges of it.
Was it sparkly?
Wasn't it?
It was so good.
And then she took that off andthen she was wearing just like,
Nothing.
She didn't take it off.
It was ripped from her.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
And the wait, the production,the choreo the outfits the, just
like the fucking treadmill thingthat was on.
So cool.
Oh my God.
It was sick.
The choreo felt like it was sogood.
The choreo felt like, there wasso many body parts moving around
in such a fun way.
I was like, this looks like anorganism.
This looks like an organism madeof 20 humans.
Just like I'm glad that everyonethat I wanted to win an award,
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apart from Ray Won an award.
I don't know if Ray was like,the most relevant in the past
year.
she already won six Brit Awardslast year.
She took home what was needed inthat one work show.
In the UK, yeah.
I don't know if she It's alsobeen so long since then and she
hasn't like really released likea lot of music since.
Yeah, she released like that oneGenesis Part 2, I think.
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but like look at chapel.
I might come on.
Yeah.
The impact is way more.
I want to pivot for a second.
We can't talk about the Grammyswithout talking about.
The host.
I feel like Trevor Noah did agood job last year.
I feel like he was like fine.
I feel like he's been doing itevery year.
Why does it feel like he's beendoing it since the beginning of
time?
Did he do it the year beforetoo?
I don't know but it feels likeit.
It does feel like it, doesn'tit?
He made a joke.
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A joke.
About illegal immigrants.
Oh, yes.
Did you see?
No, kinda.
Uchis writes in her Instagramstory saying it again.
No human being is illegal.
Lame jokes.
Weak host.
yeah.
I know.
Lame jokes.
Weak host.
But this is the thing.
I feel like Trevor Noah is likea very he was a safe option for
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the Grammys, again, to have ahost like that.
Nikki Glaser.
Put her in there.
Nikki Glaser hosted the GoldenGlobes and I don't think I've
Ever experienced an award showlike that, like I've not even
seen the award show, I've onlyseen her best bits because she
is, she was that award show.
Put her the fuck in there, she'sso funny.
And like nobody, there was likeno laughs, there was no like
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anything in the Grammys lastnight.
Is the Grammys, is it becausemore people watch the Grammys
than the Golden Globes?
No, No, the Recording Academy iscompletely different, it's like
way more like strict.
The Academy is like the Oscarsand like the, and the Grammys.
It would have been so much morefunny if she like, because they
don't poke fun at thecelebrities there.
Whereas the Golden Globes, youcan just of do what you want.
Right.
But no, it would be so great Thewhole vibe is she's poking fun,
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but we are laughing together.
And then Trevor's just like,Beyonce's here.
Taylor Swift is here.
Look, it's Billie.
Also it wasn't like, not to be aDebbie Downer or not to be like,
Be it.
Not to be like, Stop being sad,but like, not to do that, but
they just kept being like, itwas like so morbid.
It was like so much about thefires and the plane crash and
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then why did the Los Angelesfire department come up?
And they're like, the thing thatthey said, like their whole
speech, that whole thing was sobeautiful.
And it was like so, like, lovelyto watch.
And then all of a sudden they'relike, And now the album of the
year goes to, I was like, thisis a weird disconnect.
I feel like this is verydystopian.
We're like having this awardsceremony, And then there's
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Donate to the fires.
You donate to the fires.
The, The amount of money, no, Ihad a problem with the like,
Asking the QR code on the screenall the time asking people at
home to donate when the amountof money in that room alone No,
I know could solve every singleproblem.
The world has ever faced No, Iknow but like also the fact that
the Grammys is happening aswell, right?
Cuz was there an award show thatdidn't happen that was gonna
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they push the Oscars back itwas, I think it's just like the
proximity that to the fires butthey did a lot of tributes.
Like the Billy performance was atribute.
Okay.
Because they had the, oh, Imissed that.
I was getting the door.
yeah, Billy's performance had a,it was like from a, it was like
a photo of a lookout from likeRunyon or something.
And it was like pictures placedexactly of people who took
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pictures at that lookout exactlywhere it is on the screen.
So it like lined up and I waslike, that was a great tribute.
And then they did the, we arethe world thing.
Yes, And then they did thefirefighters at the end.
It's kind of a lot.
Yeah, I Um, The Grammys hasreceived so much like flack in
the past.
Well, Especially for just likeprioritizing white eyes.
Yeah, the CEO gave a speech.
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Yeah, we're so sorry about beingreally shitty.
Here's the weekend.
I didn't love that.
Here's the weekend.
He came up and then he wasn'tsitting in it.
He wasn't standing in the centerof the stage.
Which really confused me.
He was like off the center ofthe stage.
No, everyone was like, we werelike, what the fuck is his
bowtie?
Yeah, his bowtie was askew.
like he was a little bit askew.
And then he was like, theweekend said that he was gonna
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boycott and then he didn't, sonow here he is.
And I was like, huh?
I like, I get it.
I get what you're doing and youcan do this behind the scenes.
I don't need a CEO to come outand be like, we're better now.
Also, the Grammys is good.
No, I know.
It feels like it I feel likepeople keep saying Oh, she's
only, Beyonce only won thisaward because the Grammys is
trying to be DEI, DEI, but like,no, she, truly, if you look at
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all of these albums together, ifyou like were to.
Dissect them.
It's a no fucking brainer thatBeyoncé is well past due her
flowers.
Totally.
The Weeknd, however I like Thatwas a weird performance.
I like, I've liked some of hismusic.
I agree.
And I just feel like he what?
(19:10):
Huh?
What was he doing?
I feel like all of hisperformances are the same.
I didn't see him.
No, because he's always drowningin a mountain of clothes.
Yeah, why is he in ski gear?
I don't know.
Like why is he getting ready togo down the mountain?
I think this is his last hurrahas the weekend.
I think he's changing hispersona.
To the weekday?
Yes, it's like Tuesday.
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Hi, it's me Tuesday.
He's having a rebrand.
Might be better.
No, he's me having a rebrand.
He's not going to be, he's nolonger going as the weekend.
I think that I don't follow.
I think the idol really fuckedhim up.
Yeah.
I own this boycott.
Apparently this is so weird.
I was like, just let himperform.
Why are we talking about allthis?
Cause he boycotted the Grammys.
(19:52):
He was boycotting.
We don't have to talk about it.
Why don't you just like, do theboyc he did the boycott, maybe
they had a conversation, theGrammys fixed everything, and
then we just don't talk aboutwhat happened.
I thought it was weird, I waslike, all these headlines
plastered on the Yeah, all theweird And I'm like, this is
kinda crazy.
We don't really gotta talk aboutit do it behind the scenes and
just let the Grammys be.
Good.
Like just do your job.
I mean it was good.
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It was good.
Just like pick the best artist.
Why are you still talking?
CEO.
Thank you for this show, but getoff the stage.
There were a lot of momentswhere I was like, Let's wrap
this up a little bit.
So yeah, the men like really didjust like Dragged a little bit.
Like every man that was on thestage I was just like Come on.
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Get.
Oh, we didn't talk about the wetalked about Dochi's clothes
ripping off.
We didn't talk about Benson'sclothes not ripping off.
Oh yeah, I didn't.
first of all, I was like, why ishe sat at a table with Jennifer
Lopez?
Yeah.
That's fucking weird.
And then he started, and then helike, oh my god, and then the
lights came on and he like pullsa mic out of his pocket and I'm
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like, oh, for fuck's sake.
And there he goes.
And then Heidi Klum and NikkiGlaser ripped Rip his clothes
off.
I think that was pretty good.
I was like, also why are NikkiGlaser and Heidi Klum sat
together?
That's so random.
And why are they the ones to riphis clothes off?
Yeah, it's so random.
I don't know.
It's, that was all a bit random.
Didn't like the jumpsuit.
And his back flips.
But also I was like, how tall isBen Simmons?
First time I've seen him like onTV really, stood next to people.
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Yeah.
There's a picture of him next toGracie Abrams is 5'6 I think.
And so we deduced that he can'tbe more than like 5'9 the
information about his height isnot found online.
No, I know.
It's been scrubbed.
Yeah.
He doesn't want anyone to knowhow short he is.
Suspicious.
Speaking of height, Sabrina'sperformance.
Loved it.
(21:38):
But I think it's so funny thatshe is what, 5'5 She's 5 foot.
She's 5 foot?
I make quite an impression.
5 feet to be exact.
So she has a record.
To be exact.
To be exact.
She's 5 foot.
Oh yeah, she is 5 foot.
Oh, I leave quite an impression.
Five feet.
Five feet to be exact.
Be exact.
(21:58):
So she's five feet.
So that means all of to beexact, to be five feet, to be
exact.
So all of our dancers have to be5 2, 5 3, 5, 4.
I don't think they're a lot tobe taller than five, but she has
heels on.
So maybe she's five, two andthen they're like, she's got
kitten on.
No.
Okay.
Five one she has a little kittenon, so maybe moving around a
lot.
So all the dancers are fivethree.
5, 4, 5, 5.
Yeah.
So that she looks, So she justlooks the normal height, she
(22:21):
just looks proportional, butlike you look at her performing
and I'm like, that's a five footeight girl.
Even at Coachella, the, all thedances that she had with her at
Coachella were like short kings.
Yeah.
I think it's so great.
I love it.
Short representation.
It matters.
It matters.
Also the amount of people whodon't know she was wearing a wig
or that she wears a wig.
Alarming.
There's a bunch of systems inthere.
Alarming.
She's wearing a great wig.
(22:41):
That is a fantastic wig.
I love that now every singlething we've spoken about men has
been completely negative.
All women.
Obviously.
Because the women like ate down,the men came out and they were
like, huh?
And the women were like, okay,here we fucking go.
Performances by SabrinaCarpenter.
(23:02):
She did, oh my God, she did thebest.
I think it was incredible.
I think it was the bestperformance.
No, Dochi.
Oh, sorry.
No, you can't.
I feel like Dochi's, Sabrina's,Chappel's was great.
Chappel's was great.
Stay with Sabrina for a second.
Outfit.
Outfit.
Outfit.
I don't think anyone looksbetter in blue.
(23:24):
That's a really pretty blue.
That is like a power colour.
That's the blue that you wantour car to be.
I always say, oh my god, it'sthe thing about me.
Every time I see a nice bluecar, I'm like, oh, that's such a
nice blue.
generally, I don't really likethe color blue, but on her,
there's like a shade of blue andit's that shade of blue that I'm
like, I could eat that.
Yeah.
I could eat that.
I could eat that.
Yeah.
It tastes like cotton candy.
(23:44):
Oh my God.
I could eat that.
Oh my God.
I could eat that.
And it would be short and sweet.
Yeah.
It would be short and sweet.
She is so funny.
She is so funny on stage.
I think she's so stupid.
She's a fucking Disney girl.
I love her.
That's why Miley's like the waythat she is.
Miley came out to announce.
Maybe record or song.
Yeah.
One of those.
Yeah.
(24:05):
Yeah.
And she was like, Beyonce, wewon for Country Duo.
Oh yeah.
It was a country duo or like popcountry duo?
No, it was, it like just Duo.
It was just duo.
It was a duo.
One with guests and, and no itwasn't.
No?
No.
Because Bruno Mars and Lady Gagatook that fucking, for the
Trolls song.
(24:25):
The Trolls song?
Is that a Trolls song?
I think it was on the Trollsmovie wasn't it?
That was on the Trolls movie.
It was?
It wasn't really?
Yeah! It wasn't.
Ew! If the world could die, thenI want to be next to you.
Also, what the fuck is shewearing?
Let's talk about Lady Gaga for asecond.
Lady.
My icon.
Miss Gaga.
Mrs.
Lady.
(24:45):
Mrs.
Lady.
Mrs.
Gentle Lady.
Oh my god, what are you doing?
Her eyebrows blocked off soiconic, her hair is banged up.
Banged.
It's so banged, it's so bangedup there's no bangs.
The thing, also, I feel likeLady Gaga is such a like a, she
is like an artist of our, likean artist of our generation.
Yeah.
Because nobody's doing it likeLady Gaga.
(25:07):
Abracadabra.
She released.
this song and music video in themiddle of the Grammys.
In a commercial break as acommercial, I didn't even watch.
Did you?
Did you all watch it?
Yeah.
Oh, you did?
You didn't watch it?
No, I was for having a cigaretteobsessed.
Oh yeah, Yeah.
No, she released the entiremusic video as a commercial and
we were all watching, and I waslike, this cannot be the entire
music video.
The entire song played, and thenby the end of it.
(25:27):
As soon as she's like, however,however it ends, it was like
presented by MasterCard.
And I was like, that was afucking ad.
That was an ad girl.
And we were like, I was like,there has to be like some kind
of sponsor in here.
So she's going to be holdinglike a diet Pepsi or like
swiping a MasterCard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then it was like presentedby MasterCard.
Yeah.
We all died laughing.
It was incredible.
Yeah.
It was everything that I'vewanted.
(25:48):
You'll have to watch it, won'tI?
It's everything that I'vewanted.
from Gaga again, because she'shad her she's had her she's been
on a journey.
She's been jazz.
She's done country and what thefuck was the Joker the Joker?
We're not talking about theJoker She did this joke at the
Golden Globe.
She was like that the movie thatthe Joker Nothing was good about
it.
And she's oh, where's the table?
(26:09):
I'm like, oh, they're not hereexactly But now she's back She's
done a, she's done a whole 360.
She's gone around the deck.
I love when, like, when artistshave a a new look for An old
sound?
No.
Oh, I thought I was gonna readyour mind.
I love when an artist has a newlook for a new era of music that
they're doing.
(26:29):
Yeah.
Even though this is very artpop.
Yeah.
Cause art pop was before it'stime.
Art pop needs to have a roundtwo, and I feel like this is
gonna be art pop's round two.
Just in a different form.
Do you feel like Chromatica waslike not as celebrated because
of the pandemic?
Yeah.
Do you feel like it would've ahundred percent It would've been
like way crazier.
Totally.
Because we missed out well, itreleased and then we couldn't do
the chromatica balls, and thenshe did the chromatic balls oh,
(26:51):
later, two years later.
Two years later.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We did the, so I'm like, wemissed the whole, which we went
to.
In Stockholm, Sweden.
And if you know anything aboutthe Swedish crowd, they do not
know how to get down.
They remember when Beyonce,started the renaissance tour in
Stockholm.
So bad.
She was like, can you like movearound a little bit?
Everybody on mute.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, no, but then like alsothere was no energy.
(27:12):
No.
Like we were like in, we finnabe in the pit.
Love you Swedes, but they don't.
We were like in the goldencircle.
That's what they call it.
The very front.
And someone said, Oh, you knowall the words.
She turned around to us and shewas like, Oh my God, you know
all the words.
And we were like, we were sayinglike bad romance.
And she was like, you know, allthe words don't, you know, I was
like, yeah, my paws are up.
Little monsters.
My paws are up.
(27:33):
Oh, I'm about to be a littlemonster again.
This is going to be crazy.
When does it come out?
I don't know.
Soon?
Hopefully.
I don't know.
I feel like I've fallen off theGaga train.
Girl, get back on.
Abracadabra.
I really was in.
Did you watch the music videoyet?
You haven't watched it.
I told you.
The whole conversation.
I know, but I forgot.
So you have to watch it.
I haven't seen it.
Let's watch it.
Because Disease, I was like,that's fine.
But like, people keep saying shedoes this.
I feel like she will release asong, Disease, and then the
(27:54):
second single is the bad one.
No.
Abracadabra is everything thatyou've ever wanted.
dubstep.
Yeah.
Gaga.
Bruno.
Bye.
He's so small.
We're not talking about MarinaMars anymore.
I want to punch him.
I refuse.
Chapel Rowan performed Pink PonyClub with a beautiful tribute to
LA.
Yeah.
I love that.
I love that she didn't domultiple songs.
I appreciate that she just didPink Pony Club.
(28:15):
I would have assumed she wouldhave done Good Luck Babe because
it was nominated for so manythings.
I think it was, it made sense todo Pink Pony Club.
Which was a really cute tributeto LA for allowing her to be
herself.
Yeah.
A lesbian! Who's a wee lesbian?
She's a wee lesbian.
That horse has seen some thingsthough.
I will say the horse she was on.
(28:35):
That horse was cracked out.
Cracked out or had seen sometrauma.
Oh my god.
The clowns did freak me out alittle bit.
It was a circus and I was herefor it.
Shakira?
Shakira?
Shakira?
apparently Shakira's had tworibs removed, as we found out
last night.
What?! That could have been arumor.
Yeah, so this might be hearsay.
Hearsay?
Or a lie?
Hearsay.
It might be a lie, but we werediscussing last night in great
(28:57):
depth.
Which means there's some shredof truth in it.
That she had two ribs removed?
So she could, Yeah, I don'twanna know what it is.
What did she do?
in more movement.
What is she saying?
I don't wanna know what it is.
I don't wanna know what it is.
I don't know why she sounds likea viking.
Shakira, hipster.
She won an album.
(29:18):
She won Latin Album of the Year.
I was very confused about that.
I didn't know she released analbum this year.
I didn't know people listened tothat album.
I knew she released it, but Ididn't know it was listened to.
Cause Kali Uchi should've won.
Period.
And Kali Uchis looked fuckingsensational last night.
I'm just saying, I'm justsaying, I love Kali Uchis.
Let's talk about more women.
Rae.
(29:38):
Let's talk about more women.
Let's talk about more women.
Rae, that performance.
Her performances are alwayseverything.
One thing about Rae is she isgoing to sing the house down
boots.
She is an artist.
Some people are like singers.
She is an artiste.
That like long, I recorded itand it was like 17 seconds.
The last note.
17 seconds of full belt.
(30:00):
That's crazy.
And it's so effortless.
Oh my god.
And she's fully like, I love herlike fluid move.
Oh my god.
People don't really know abouther.
No, I know.
I know.
I know because she's like new tothe States.
Yeah.
But she's been that girl.
She's crazy.
She has been.
Her riffs.
Also she's just like barefoot.
Girl.
And she's so funny.
We saw her at Coachella.
She is hilarious on stage.
Yeah, I love her so much.
(30:20):
I think she's incredible.
I also love when she like,sings, she wraps the cord of the
mic around her entire body.
Yeah.
It's just fully draped aroundher entire being.
She just wants to be one withthe music.
She, and she is.
She is.
Have you seen her, any of herclips from the Prince Albert
Hall performance that she did?
No.
With the like, live orchestra?
No.
Oh my fuck.
She performs the album with alive band.
(30:43):
It's like the The one that UAdid.
Yes, exactly.
Did she do that exact samething?
Yes.
That was great.
Exactly that.
That was great.
Every artist should have to dothat to see if they can actually
sing.
Yeah Charlie.
Talk about, Talk about notsinging.
Oh my god.
Talk about not singing.
A pre recorded little moment.
I forgot about Charlie.
That was incredible.
Exactly.
(31:03):
In my mind, do you think it wasincredible?
Yes, because I think it wasCharlie.
I think it was incrediblebecause it was her.
Tell me what you liked about it.
I loved the beginning part.
And I'll tell you what I didn'tlike about it.
So I loved, okay, let me go fromthe beginning.
We had the car, we panned over,and it said, Charles, it said
XCX, I think on the licenseplate.
It did say XCX.
And I was like, that was cute.
And then she came out.
(31:24):
She had a champagne hand, shethrew the champagne away.
She's I don't want that.
The champagne was handed to herand she was like, I actually
don't want this anymore.
She's Came in, Alex Consani.
behind her.
I'm the other one who was likereally struggling to keep up.
She was good.
The one behind the other one.
She looked good.
She was like, she looked good.
Struggling to catch up.
Well, Cause Alex Cassani isseven feet tall.
That giraffe, I love her.
Alex Cassani came in and I waslike, love that.
(31:45):
Walked in, came around.
don't think we even saw hereyes.
You don't want to see her eyes.
No, I know because she's onsubstances.
And then we had that little moshmoment and I was like, that's
fun.
I love that.
Came in and then she started tosing.
Well, She wasn't singing then.
I was like, this sounds goodbecause she's not singing.
Came in, started singing, and Iwas like, There she is.
(32:06):
Oh, there she is.
There's my girl.
There's the autotune.
There's the autotune that wedesperately need.
I wish she didn't do Guess,though.
Why?
I wish she didn't do Guess,because I feel like that song is
quite flat on its own.
Without Billie.
Like, Billie's right there.
Like, why would you not have heralso come on?
I understand it's Charlie'smoment to do her own thing.
then I feel like she should havedone 360.
(32:26):
Cause Julia Fox is right there.
And it was Julia Fox's birthday.
That is true.
It was Julia Fox's birthday.
Our Aquarius Queen.
Hmm.
And she performed Guess, andthere's just a bunch of
underwear flying around.
Also, people have been like,Like, people have been saying
that the camera work was reallybad.
Yeah.
The cameraman didn't Cause therewas so much going on.
Oh yeah, totally.
There was so much movement.
There was a lot of floor.
Yeah.
The cameraman was fucking up alot.
(32:47):
Cause it was like, a little bitcrazy.
I think it was supposed to bethe art direction of that
performance was supposed to be,like, chaotic.
We're moving around, thecamera's like, woah, Yeah,
camera work, messy, could havebeen better.
360, I feel like that would havebeen a better song choice.
I think she just wanted theunderwear flying around her
because of the music video.
Yeah, makes sense.
I liked it.
I liked it.
Was it the best performance?
No.
Because, no.
(33:07):
I feel like it should have beenearlier too.
That, the vibe.
Yeah.
The vibe of that performance.
Very party.
And the vibe of the party.
It's getting the party side.
It should have been at thebeginning.
Yeah.
Not the end.
Yeah.
obviously they do announceawards outside of the actual
like live show of it.
Forget about that sometimes.
Von Dutch won, is this herfirst, first ever Grammy win?
(33:29):
So she did win, I think threeGrammys last night.
Brat won best dance andelectronic album.
And, which is great, that's agreat, which is I think what
renaissance won in 20, 20, yeah,three.
And then Von Dutch won bestdance pop recording.
Good job, Charlie.
It's not my favourite song, soAnyway, Taylor Swift didn't win
anything.
(33:49):
Womp.
And that's all that reallymatters.
She campaigned so much to Stayin the charts all throughout
2024.
For what?
She like, blocked Billie fromgetting number one.
She blocked Charlie from gettingnumber one.
Whoever else she blocked.
There was someone else.
By releasing 50, 000 versions ofthe same album.
Yeah.
Oh, we've discussed that we donot approve of Miss Swift and
(34:13):
her actions.
And her actions as of late.
They're, she's gross.
Sorry.
She's a little gross right now.
She looked fucking stunningthough.
She did.
Also, I really love that she wasthe one that presented the
country music, country album ofthe year.
Yeah.
To Beyonce.
That was cute.
Yeah.
Best dressed.
Top of the list, I have.
Dochi.
Yeah, top of the list.
If we're doing top of the list.
Yeah, tippy top list.
(34:33):
I have a list just cause, okay,tippy top.
Dochi.
Top of the list.
Dochi was the best dressed.
Dochi was the best dressed.
100%.
Boots.
Boo boots.
Boots.
That Tom Brown, because it waslike the outfit was Tom Brown
and then the extra, like thegiant pantaloons.
That is unbelievable.
And she looked like her face.
Oh, she's just stunning.
(34:54):
Her face card was, ah! Snatched.
Snatched.
Truly pulled back.
With that face tape.
Which I love.
I love it.
Taylor Swift's Vivian Westwood,the red.
Yeah.
It was cute.
I liked it.
And someone also said that shedidn't look like she was dressed
to win an award.
No.
Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
She didn't put like that mucheffort into it.
No.
It's a good dress.
Yeah, but not as much effort asshe would nor like on the
(35:15):
Midnight's win, when she won forMidnight's.
Yeah, Yeah.
Also, why the f Fuck.
The beginning of the show wasshe sat on Cynthia Reeve and was
like, Get off of her.
Get off of her.
I feel like she, whenever she'sat these mu Did you hear her
with the bottle of wine in herhands?
No.
She was like, there's a video ofher dancing, and she had the
bottle of wine.
It's a guess.
It's a guess.
Oh, okay.
And she was like dancing withthe bottle of wine in her hands,
(35:35):
like jumping around.
She just like moves around thewhole Grammys.
arena.
She's trying to find thecameras.
Yeah, she's finding the camera.
She's going to different peopleI'm like, where's your table
when jack antonoff won like bestwhatever the fuck he does I want
you to give him a nuggy.
She was giving him a nuggy like,uh, so weird And Lana Del Rey's
behind them, and she's What thefuck are you doing?
Get off the stage.
(35:55):
And then she was dragged ontostage.
That's Oh no, I'm not talkingabout that.
By Taylor Swift?
I'm not talking about that.
Yeah.
Not that Grammys.
We don't talk about We only talkabout this Grammys.
I'm still too distressed by thatmoment.
I'm like, why would you bring onShe like, brought her on because
she was part of the album.
Yeah.
But why would you bring her on?
Because she was also in thecategory, and she lost to you.
Why the fuck would you bring heron?
And she's sitting in thebackground like So weird.
This is really crazy.
(36:16):
I don't like this.
Let's only talk about thisGrammys.
That Grammys doesn't exist.
Yeah.
Lana's my girl, who else?
Sabrina Carpenter and her customJ.
W.
Anderson blue gown.
I loved what she was wearing inthe pre recorded video before
her performance.
Which was what?
The striped, it was like astriped dress and her waist was
like Oh my god! Her waist waslike a centimetre across Oh my
god, it was crazy I was like,where is it?
She sat in like the director'schair Yeah, I was like, where is
(36:38):
it?
Oh my god, I know, That's crazyHow do you look like this?
Well, She's corseted down Iknow, but still No Where is it?
It was a beautiful dress too andI was like, the stripes are just
like, oh Dunning It was stunningOlivia Rodrigo.
Yeah, oh yeah.
Was wearing archival Versace.
Whoa.
And so she has been like, so inher like punk rock era.
It's just nice to see her belike, I don't know, a bit more.
(37:00):
Yeah.
Grown.
I loved it.
A bit grown.
How old is she?
I don't even know.
Five.
She's, she looks fuckingphenomenal.
Yeah.
Oh my fucking god.
Yeah.
She looks incredible.
We've talked about Lady Gaga'sinsane.
Looks for her insane new era.
Yeah, I like it.
Although I didn't like it.
I didn't like what she wore tothe performance.
She looked like a peasant girl.
The performance she did withBruno Mars.
(37:20):
Oh yeah, no.
Also she was like fully likebent over.
Her moves are like, she's backin her, she's back in her little
monster era.
Let her be crazy.
We need more crazy in the world.
Meat dress.
Do it again.
We need more meat.
Yeah.
We need more meat on the runway.
Yeah.
That's what we need.
And then Chapel's looks werejust like.
There was someone else who had awaist wear.
I got, there were very likechapel outfits.
(37:42):
Someone had a waist wear momentand I can't remember.
Someone else did have a waistwear moment.
Corsets are here.
Corsets are the thing right now.
Corsets are in right now.
I love it.
Yeah, I love them.
No more waists! Boycott thewaists! You could only be a
speck of dust.
It is back, I mean it is.
We've gone full circle.
What, like early two thousands.
Early two thousands.
(38:03):
Skinny?
Yeah.
It is cyclical.
It's crazy like it is, and we'reback in the skinny era.
Oh God.
That's terrifying.
Yeah.
The thigh gap 2025.
D bring it back.
Bring back the gap.
Thigh gap is crazy.
Bring back the gap.
I remember, like I rememberbeing in high school and girls
would talk about.
Or be self conscious about thefact that they didn't have a
thigh gap.
And I'm like, that's reallybizarre.
Like, That's crazy to want.
(38:24):
Eat a burger.
Eat a burger.
And that will leave you.
Eat a burger.
Yeah.
I'm so glad we dug into eatingburgers.
That was deep.
That was a deep hole.
We did dig deep.
So much for listening.
That was crazy.
What a crazy way to startFebruary.
I'm so happy.
Crazy.
I was so distraught in January.
Guys, we're so happy.
Now I'm happy.
We're back.
We were gone in January for 000days, And now we're back.
(38:47):
It was 81 days of January.
February will be so much better.
And it's shorter.
Thank fuck.
Yeah.
Someone was saying January isthe Monday of the week, of the
year.
I agree.
And then February is theTuesday.
Yeah, I agree.
But I don't agree with that.
Why?
Because February's, Tuesdays arelong days.
Sometimes I'm like, it's stillTuesday.
(39:08):
Hey guys, it's still Tuesday.
Did you know that?
I used to, I, no, that's astupid joke.
Okay, bye.
Don't forget to rate us whereveryou get your podcast.
Follow us on TikTok, Instagram,and YouTube, and leave us a
comment below.
What did you think about theGrammys?
What were your favorites?
what were your highlights?
And what were your lowlights?
(39:28):
Lowlights! And what were yourmiddlelights?
Peaks, pits, and troughs.
Trough?
What?
Peaks, pits, and troughs.
Isn't that a thing?
No! Oh, it's rose, thorn in abud.
It's a draw.
Draw.
I like it.
Where is the pig coming intothis?
Peaks?
Yeah.
Up here.
Yeah.
Pits down there.
Trough.
Yeah, a trough in the middle.
(39:50):
Yeah.
I don't know where that camefrom.
That's really weird.
I really don't know where thatcame from.
I've never heard of that before.
Neither have I.
That's the thing.
But the thing is, neither haveI.
Trough?
Like for a pig?
Yeah, or if you go to one ofthose nasty gay clubs and
there's nowhere to pee apartfrom a trough.
So what was your peak bit andtrough of the Grammys?
(40:12):
Where did that come from?
Your mind is a wonder.
It's a chasm.
Your mind is a trough.
My mind just got possessed by alittle demon twink.
See ya! Bye.
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History is beautiful, brutal and, often, ridiculous. Join Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown as they dive into some of the weirdest stories from across the span of human civilization in Ridiculous History, a podcast by iHeartRadio.