June 4, 2025 • 47 mins
And just like that, it's Pride month yet again!!! (do we do this every year??) Let's dig into how we're feeling about Pride this year and drag some corporations while we're at it ;)
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(00:00):
Hi gay.
Welcome to the Butter Shop.
Welcome to that butter shopthat's only open during pride.
What else does she say in thatthing?
Do you know how I thought thatgirl was only famous for that
one thing, but she was like, whywas she a guest judge in
RuPaul's Drag Race that onetime?
Because she's a famous comedian.
Is she?
Actually, yeah.
I had no idea who she is.
I had no idea either.
I still like, that's the ButterGirl.
I still don't really know whoshe is.
Max Ter?
(00:20):
Yes.
Oh yeah.
See, I know that name, but I,she's so funny, but I didn't
know she was anything more thanthe Butter girl.
Have you pride everyone?
I got my ice coffee.
The gates of Heller opened.
Well that happened during theGemini season, during the, the
start of Gemini season.
And now it is not a coincidencethat Gemini season and pride
month are on the same.
It's also not a coincidence thatit is Gemini Sea.
(00:42):
Well, it was my birthday on thefirst day of Pride month.
Yeah, the world felt theearthquake that happened when
you were I was also born three,three, three.
So I know we've discussed that.
I'm that spooky.
Really.
Have we discussed that?
We did that.
We talked about this last time.
Oh yeah.
Can I shut up for a second?
Do you remember much?
No.
Exactly.
Like can I like actually shutthe fuck up for a second half of
pride?
It's pride.
My god.
Time for time.
(01:03):
For time for gayness.
And I can't say the F word onhere, can I?
It's, I mean, I can say itgenerally, but you can.
You won.
Can I say it on the podcast?
Will Spotify banners, if we usethe word fag, we'll find out I
guess.
'cause that's going in there.
Great.
Perfect.
For effect.
Forry Forgo forry.
Um, yeah, pride.
(01:23):
Woo woo.
I feel like all we do on thispodcast is talk about our first
times doing things in the world.
No, but that's just how my mindworks though.
Let's dig into pride and allthat means to us and what we've
done for pride in the past.
Do you know about like, I havelike brand partnerships we've
done during Pride, pridecampaigns, like during Pride
campaigns.
So many, and they've been like,what does pride mean to you?
(01:44):
And we've been like, oh my God,it means so much.
I'm like, what is I really, am Ireally into pride anymore?
I think when you were likeyoung.
Do you know what I mean though?
Yeah, yeah.
I agree.
Like I'm in this stage in mylife where I'm like.
Again, it's important.
I love pride.
Well, we did like seven lastyear.
I know.
So like now I'm like, I I couldtake a break.
(02:06):
Lemme do a baseline.
It's like Christmas.
Like Christmas.
I could take a break for you.
Exactly.
I could take a break for you.
Exactly.
I could take a break for you.
It like, sometimes it's toomuch.
Let me take a break for you.
It's like I'm over the giftgiving.
I'm over the pageantry.
I'm over it.
Who, who?
You, you give gifts to a, apride.
No, I was talking aboutChristmas.
Oh yeah.
Let me give a baseline.
There are things I want say thatI, lemme give a baseline.
Actually.
Can't say, lemme give a baselinefor my feelings on pride.
(02:29):
It, it's very important and verycrucial to our community and
it's very, very amazing.
And I love pride.
Sometimes I'm over it, sometimesI'm over the rainbows.
I fucking hate.
No, it's corporation rainbows.
It's corporate pride.
That's what I'm do, that's whatI'm talking about.
Sucks because I've been thinkingabout this.
I'm thinking.
I know crazy.
I've been thinking about thisspit out and I'm like, what?
(02:51):
I'm setting the scene.
Let's just spit it out.
I'm setting the scene.
I'll spit on you.
Please don't.
Please.
I thought you could say Pleasedo.
And I was like, oh, it's notthat kind.
Podcast.
Sleep.
Please don't.
No.
So here's what I'm ta Here'swhat I'm thinking.
Here's what I'm think.
Get off your phone.
I'm listening guys.
Look at me.
You're also, you're not talkingto me.
I am talking to you.
This is a conversation betweenus.
Here's what I'm thinking.
'cause I'm like, why was pride?
(03:13):
Why was pride so different in mymind?
Like when I was 23, 24 than itis now that I'm 30 and I think
Pride 2024.
Mine.
I, yeah.
No, that was my first pride.
What?
Yes.
You don't know that.
My first pride was Berlin Pride.
You are fucking joking.
In 2017, you're fucking joking.
(03:33):
2017 was my first pride.
You're joking.
No, Berlin.
Berlin Pride.
2017.
Do we met a week after that?
Right?
I know.
That's crazy.
That was my first pride ever.
Wait, that's nuts.
And I was 23.
That's nuts.
No, you were 22.
22.
Yeah.
That's nuts.
That's nuts.
So we'll get into that.
But I was thinking why does thatfeel right?
I know.
It's crazy.
That's wild.
I know.
I'm a baby.
Oh my God.
Are I have a baby?
Are are you okay?
(03:53):
I grew up in North Carolina.
Oh, that's true.
Like your universities Have youthink Boone, North Carolina had
pride?
A Pride March?
I don't know.
We barely had a gay Sexual.
Gay.
What?
What?
You can stop right there, gay.
You can stop right there.
Gay Straight Alliance.
We didn't have a Gay StraightAlliance.
(04:14):
I was the Gay Straight Alliance.
Yeah.
You lived in Manchester.
Yeah.
Well, so that's a big city.
Anyways, so what I was thinkingis like why was, why was my
feeling about going to pridesdifferent in like when I was 22
than when I'm 2030?
I'm just thinking it's very,extremely corporate, very, the
corporateness of pride I thinkhas gotten out of hand.
(04:34):
And I'm also gonna say that the,I've mo mostly been to your base
mostly.
Like you sounded really ParkerPosey and we Lewis then I am
going.
Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm from NorthCarolina.
Yeah, I know, but you likereally should do that accent a
little bit more like tsunami.
No, that rubs really good.
That was, what were you saying?
Okay.
Whatever I was saying, stopinterrupting me so I can
remember my story.
(04:55):
God, I was saying that I'vemostly been to European prides.
I've like barely been to USprides, which is.
Honestly, I'd say that they werebetter because they're less
corporate.
That's what I'm saying, like Ifeel like every single pride
that I've been to in Europe justfelt more community focused.
Even Canada, to an extent, like,'cause we've went to Montreal
Pride, not fucking Toronto.
Montreal.
(05:15):
Yeah, Montreal.
Yeah.
Like a European esque.
Pride is a little bit.
Less corporate, a little bitmore community focused.
It feels like there's moremessages, there's more meaning
to it.
It feels like more of a protestthan the prides here, like a
match and a celebration, butalso a protest.
Whilst here, this is literallyjust like, Hey guys, welcome to
(05:35):
this, this.
I'm a bank, this.
Yeah.
And I am a telecommunicationscompany and I have a rainbow in
my logo, and I'm a grocerystore.
Yes.
Hello.
Happy pride, everyone.
What can I think of?
Like, I can't even say I've beento Pride.
I've been to Pride like inToronto.
Like the parade.
Yeah.
I would never go to the paradeyet.
My first pride, I was in theparade.
(05:55):
Yeah.
Did you know that?
No.
I was on a float in Berlin withOh, you do tell.
You tell me this.
With that guy that I was seeingat at the time.
Yeah.
You tell me this.
Y Yannick.
That is so funny.
Yannick.
Yeah.
I went on a pride float with himfor my first fucking pride.
What was the brand?
I don't know.
Or like thing.
(06:16):
Some underwear brand probably,or some shit.
I don't know.
It was Berlin and then itstarted pouring down rain.
That pride.
Yeah, I remember it.
That's why we didn't go to likereally late.
It was so fun.
We didn't go celebr really late.
It was so fun.
one of my best friends from theUK was visiting me.
That pride.
Uh, in 27.
Yeah.
20, 20 17.
Yeah.
And she like, we just like wentto our friends and she's like,
pre-gamed and like a bunch ofpeople came there'cause it was
kind of close to, um, the brand.
(06:38):
Berg Gate brand.
Berger Tour brand, Berger Tour.
Brandon Berger, brand BergerTour, the brand Berger tour.
And, um.
The victory column, whatever thefuck.
Yeah.
And uh, and the thing withEuropean, everyone's like, there
was like a bunch of people thatjust like came to my friend's
place that was close by.
Mm.
And so we were just likepre-game there until like the
rain stopped, which was at like,we were planning together at
(06:59):
like midday and rain didn't stoptill like four.
Well, the thing with Europeanprides.
That I find does kind of happenhere, but it's not the same
'cause you can't drink on thestreets.
And that has, that has a certainfunness to it, that it ends in
like a big community block partyat the end of the pride route
all the time.
And that kind of happens herelike at Civic Center in, in San
(07:20):
Francisco.
Like it kind, it happens.
Who, who's going to that?
People, people go.
But it doesn't have the samefeel to it as the European ones.
No.
Europe is just like, it's justEurope.
Especially volume for Europe.
Yeah, that was my first pride.
That was a Berlin Pride.
That's crazy.
And you were in, in the paradeand did you get rained on?
Uh, yeah, I mean it was pretty,it was pissing it down.
(07:40):
Yeah, But it was fun.
It's like rain on me, tsunami.
It was fun.
Rain on me.
Tsunami.
Yeah.
Great, great, great, great.
Good job.
Both done.
Well done.
Well done.
It was fun.
It was a good time.
I was like, wow, this is gay.
And especially Berlin, it waslike, oh, it was very, very gay.
Super gay zpa.
Gay zpa.
Gay zpa, zpa guile.
Okay, please, I'm gonna have ananeurysm.
(08:02):
That's so fun for you.
How was your first project?
I was 15 and I snuck in.
That's a full almost decadebetween, so between us, so
watching it was like heavy intosex and city at this point.
Mm-hmm.
'cause my cousin had the box setand she used to live with us.
And so it was, house is the keypoint of the, it really is just
wait till, wait till you seewhat happens.
So I used to sneak outta myhouse all the time.
This was, I was 15 years old andI obviously didn't have an id.
(08:25):
My brother got a fake ID when hewas 16.
I never had a fake ID sayingthat he was 18, and so I started
using his fake ID when I was 14,15.
Because you looked the same, Iwould just like take it out.
Yeah.
No, we look, we look the same.
When we were in high school, welooked exactly the same.
Oh, sure.
Yeah, yeah.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
Everyone used to call me minibial, like in, in high school.
Every, like, all of his friendswould close only two years older
(08:48):
than me.
They'd see me like walkingaround school.
He'd be like, oh, it's mini bi.
Whoa.
Yeah.
I know.
I guess out of all yourbrothers, he looks, he looked
the most identical when we werein high school.
We looked identical pretty much.
Yeah.
He still could.
And No, not right now.
Not identical.
No, no, no.
But there's more similarities.
Yeah.
I became a massive fag numbertwo.
Okay.
I became a massive homosexual.
(09:10):
I became a raging homosexual andnow he has a wife do lead two.
And so do you.
You're right.
You're actually right.
I do have a wife and that's,we're, we're, we're the same.
You are so Right.
And a dog.
They have a dog too.
You're so right now, continuewith your first pride today.
So heavy into Sex and City'causeYeah.
My cousin was just like.
How the fuck sat?
And I was just like so into it.
(09:32):
Let's make you gay.
No, I was already gay.
I, I came out three, four years.
Let's you more gay.
Let's up three years beforethis.
Let's make you more gay.
Mind you and I, me and myfriends like, snuck out.
We like went into, into the city15.
I wasn't allowed to go intoManchester.
I like lived closer toStockport, which is, you know,
we've been to Stockport, I'vebeen to Stockport.
So I lived closer to Stockport.
(09:52):
I was only allowed to go intoStockport.
I wasn't allowed to go intoManchester'cause that's too far
away.
And you have to like take thetrain.
Yeah, I wasn't allowed to dothat yet.
So too many temptations, but hadfucking did it anyway.
Yeah, obviously, obviously.
So I snuck into sea, obviouslywore my like ugliest outfit.
'cause Describe it, it was apink shirt.
Ugh.
It was a pink, like what kind ofpink button?
(10:13):
Like salmon.
See it was really ugly.
Yeah, it was ugly.
Like for like Easter.
Oh my God.
It was a really ugly, likepastel pink.
No, it was ugly than pastelpink.
Oh, it was like it was a buttondown.
Yeah, you wore a button down.
It was like a slim fit to pride.
It was like a slim shirt.
No, that's slim fit.
It was 2000, and I'm gonna sayeight.
Okay.
It was 2008.
Yeah.
(10:33):
Yeah.
So almost 10 years before youwent to your first parade.
That's fucked.
It wasn't, it was 2007.
Hmm.
It was 2007, so exactly 10 yearsbefore you went to your pride.
Crazy.
2007 and I, yeah, me and myfriends.
So in Manchester Gate, the gayvillage.
Uh, during pride, it's likesectioned off.
There's like fences around, soyou have to have tickets to
enter.
Right.
We snuck in.
(10:54):
Right.
Wait, what else are you, wereyou wearing though?
Oh, like black plants and likeheels.
I had these like pumps.
Yeah, I know.
Wait, I'm imagine.
Is there any accessories?
Were there any accessories?
I had like a, like a pearlynecklace that Oh, oh my God.
Okay.
It was like a beauty kind of,kind of imagine what you would
think people would wear at, um,what's that thing that happens
in New Orleans?
That like festival.
Oh.
Um, um, Mardi Gras.
(11:14):
Mardi Gras, and you've got thoseugly beads on, bear in mind
again, it's 2007.
This feels like something that,so I'm wearing like a, a, a pink
button up.
Yeah.
With like, it's like open up tomy, like chest.
Ah, and then I'm wearing likethis beaded, these beaded
necklaces.
Or like, and they're tied, soyou like you wear them, but then
you tie them in a knot onthemselves.
So there's like a little knot inthe middle.
(11:35):
Oh.
But then it's like dangles.
Oh, it's fashionable.
Okay.
This outfit does feel very sexin the city.
Appropriate.
This makes sense.
But also it's 2007 and that waslike.
I was like a little gay boyexperimenting with fashion.
Totally experimenting wrong forsure, but like at the time it
was like I was like up and upand coming.
You're like, Did you see whateveryone else wearing in 2007?
Are you blind?
I was wearing, no, everyone waswearing ugly shit in 2007.
(11:57):
That what we did.
Okay.
Hmm.
And I really think there was awaist coat on top of it too.
What?
There was a waist coat.
So can you imagine like a HannahMontana kind of outfit?
Define waist coat was like a, awaistcoat that you'd wear?
You mean like a, A blazer?
No, no, no.
Sleeveless.
Imagine like Hannah Montana.
Like a Hannah Montana esqueoutfit.
(12:18):
Yeah.
You're imagining it.
Imagine it.
A vest.
Yeah, like a vest.
A vest.
A vest.
Yeah.
Unbuttoned.
Checkered.
I'm imagining checkered.
No, no, it was black.
That's it was black.
The shirt was pink.
The, the, the dangly jewels werelike white, I think.
Did you have your Pete wind hairthen?
I'd have my pee went hair.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And had like these like sidebangs.
(12:39):
I'm imagining this so hard rightnow.
I get yelled at by my mom allthe time to like cut my fucking
hair, but I never, yeah.
I was like, you know, I had mylike Masha hair.
Yeah.
Like big emo hair.
Whoa.
And.
Yeah, like, and I did my makeuptoo.
I feel like Pete went, wore thisexact outfit.
Outfit.
Exactly.
No, no, no, exactly.
'cause again, it's 2007.
Yeah, it's panic at the disco.
It's Fallout Boys.
Yeah, it's Avril Levine.
Like this is my inspiration.
It's like Hannah Montana.
(12:59):
Like Yeah, on the other, on theother side.
Yeah.
Sns Hannah Montana.
Fallout boy.
Yeah, exactly.
And so I, yes, we snuck in, welike snuck in through like the
fence and we just like went toone of the bars.
Do you remember GAY?
I do unfortunately remember GA,across from there there's the
canal.
Yeah.
And then on that side wherelike.
(13:20):
If you look, if you're standingin front of GAY, exactly across
from it, but then that waytowards the main street.
Mm-hmm.
Closest to the street side.
Yeah.
There was like a little boatbar.
Yes.
And then they didn't ID anyoneperfect.
And we just like went in and Iwas like, it was my first
alcoholic beverage I everordered at a bar.
You've told me this about Idrink, I've had drinks.
Like I had my first drink when Iwas 14 at like a football game
(13:43):
and I know what it was.
I sat down and I said, I'll havea Cosmo.
Ah, yeah, just like that.
Yeah.
Ill have a Cosmo just like that.
I'll have a Cosmo and that's.
A big faggot was born numberthree.
You had a Cosmopolitan as yourfirst drink in a bar.
(14:04):
Yeah.
That's wild.
Isn't crazy.
Didn't you?
Didn't you?
Did you know that CarrieBradshaw?
Well, what's her name?
Sarah Jessica Parker didn't haveher first Cosmo.
During Sex The City until afterthe show ended.
You joking?
None of none of those were real.
Oh, she didn't have her firstCosmo to of the, yeah, but after
the show ended, yeah.
Guess what?
They're not good.
Yeah, obviously.
What are they?
It's like cranberry heavy.
(14:24):
It's, and vodka.
Yeah, it's just vodka andcranberry, I think.
I think it's like, imagine like,no, it's not vodka cranberry,
but imagine like a martini, butit's like cranberry, right?
Cranberry, yes.
Right.
Cosmopolitan cocktail.
Cosmo Pollin.
Like who the fuck is drinking acosmopolitan?
Old ladies.
Literally old ladies.
I was dressed like one.
oh.
(14:44):
Yeah.
It's, it's vodka quantro ortriples sec.
And then lime and then cranberryjuice.
Whoa.
All of you did a diet version.
It might not be that bad, like asugar for cranberry.
No, it was, it was likecranberry, sugar heavy.
It was very like, yeah, it wasvery, but it was strong.
Because it was strong.
It was like a martini.
It's just like, it's justalcohol, right?
And then a splash of cranberry,right?
(15:05):
Anyway, I got pretty drunk.
Mm.
And then I don't really rememberhow that night ended, but I
think I got yelled at.
You don't need to know by mymother.
think my oldest brother as well.
'cause I stuck into the city andI think he found out.
And then he like didn't tell mymom.
Oh.
He was like, I'm gonna tell her.
Yeah.
And I was like, snitches gotfucking stitches, bitch.
(15:26):
Did you punch him?
No.
Of course I didn't punch him.
You should have.
But my oldest brother was gonnasnitch on me and I was like,
don't tell mom, talk to mom.
Don't tell mom.
Yeah.
Anyway, that was my first pride.
Oh my God.
And.
Then they got increasingly moreinsane from there.
Yeah.
'cause my first pride was Berlinand then my pride's fourth.
(15:46):
Did we go to 2000?
Well, hang on.
We met in 2017 and we leftbefore.
Yeah, we left before the nextone.
Oh, crazy.
Yeah.
So that was our first pride.
Well, my first pride, that wasthe first pride.
Well, we weren't even togetherthen.
Ah, well, the funny thing isthat pride, that same pride that
you went to, you were dancing onthe streets and stuff.
Yeah.
And my best friend from the UKwas visiting me.
(16:07):
Yeah.
We went out after like, we werelike, I think we went to Sissy
Fossil or one of the fuckingparties, sissy Fas, and then
like bar hopped a bit orwhatever.
And then I think it was so, sofucking late and my friend had
gone home by herself and she gotlost and then I had to go let
her in.
But I was like speaking to someguy on Grindr and I was like,
I'm just gonna go.
I am just gonna go.
(16:28):
You gonna go?
And I did.
I put her into bed and then Iwas like, bye.
And then I went and he, this guylived down the street and I went
to his house.
Nice.
And then it was kind of weirdactually.
What was his name?
Julian.
Julian.
Julian.
Oh, Yu.
Uh, he was, he's not listeningunless he is listening.
He, he's your number one fan.
Actually.
Could you imagine?
He was a, his voice.
(16:50):
He was a voice actor.
Mm.
He was a voice actor.
Like how was his voice in, interms of dubbing, dubbing voice,
voices on like TV shows andshit?
Did he have a nice voice?
Very German voice.
Oh yeah, I know.
Well, the thing about Grindr isyou don't get to hear the
fucking voice before you goover.
That should be a feature I knowof any dating app.
(17:12):
Well, you can like face likeFaceTime them on the app.
No, that's weird.
You should have.
Any dating app, there should bea mandatory requirement that you
say a sentence.
Ooh, hinge does that, isn't it?
Like, I feel like I see them on,um, on TikTok all the time.
People like screen record,people's like hinge.
Oh yeah.
It gives you like a prompt andthen you have to like, speak
something.
Well, you know, like wheneveryou get a new phone and you have
to set up Alexa and it asks youlike, say like, Hey, or no,
(17:34):
sorry, not Alexa.
Sorry, Siri.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it says like, Siri, what'sthe weather?
You should have to do that It'sfive different sentences and
it's a prompt that you have todo.
Yeah, that's true because I.
you have to have a good voice.
Sorry.
Well, here we are here, both ofus with really good voices.
Those excellent voices.
Voices for podcasting.
Tsunami, boo, deam, homosexual.
(18:01):
Okay, great.
Love that for us.
And then, and then a week later,and then, and then a week later,
we met, just like that, and justlike that, a week later.
We met again off, off of Grindr.
Yeah, because you were sayingyou wanted to have a slut summer
and then I came along and said,oh, I really did.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no.
I'm going to nail you.
Nail you down.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Whoa.
(18:21):
Pin you down.
No, um, you can't pin me down.
Put a ring on it.
Let's say that that's better.
Yeah.
But you didn't really do that,did you?
No, but I generally did.
Like I have him wearing a ring.
But you didn't put the ringreally on me.
And also you didn't propose tome.
Yeah, you didn't propose to me.
Why is the assumption that Iwould propose to you?
Why the fuck would I do that?
(18:43):
Why the assumption?
What the fuck?
What would you think would, whywould you assume, why the fuck
would you think?
I, I would ask a man.
Why would you assume that youput the gender roles into here?
You said, let me stereotype thatI should be the one What you're
saying, that I should be the oneto propose to you.
Why would I have done that?
Why would I not, why would Ihave fucking married now?
So it doesn't matter.
Doesn't it fucking out?
But it's, I want to know thefuck up.
(19:04):
Shut the.
Fuck.
Fuck.
Because you could have easilyproposed to me, but you didn't.
Ew.
Why would I do that?
Why would I ask a man anything?
Why would I have asked a mananything?
Anyway, And then we went toToronto Pride the next year.
No, we didn't.
Yes, we did.
We did.
Go to Toronto Pride.
The Toronto Pride.
Toronto Pride.
Anyway, we don't need to talkabout every single fucking pride
we've been to.
Well, I was giving a generalgist of everything that we've
done.
that.
That was the weird pride.
'cause again, my friend who cameto visit me in Berlin came to
(19:26):
visit me in our first Torontoapartment.
Love you girl.
Love you.
She's not listening.
Don't worry.
Okay, great.
She's not listening so we canshit on her.
She doesn't have social media,so she came to visit.
Love.
Great.
Amazing.
Don't, don't shit come visit.
Don't, I'm not shit, I'm notshitting.
But when you come to visit forpride, don't go to the store and
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buy cowboy boots.
Oh, she bought cowboy.
She like drifted cowboy bootsand then she like needed to go
home early'cause she was like,her feet were on fire because
they were not broken inproperly.
Sister love you.
And she wore them to pride.
Was she wore to pride?
Bad idea.
Oh, she just texted me thismorning actually.
That was also, that was a finepride.
I didn't know what, because wedidn't know what was going on
really.
Toronto Pride was our first timethat we got a collaboration for
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Pride.
That was the second year.
Well, not, not, notcollaboration for pride, but
like we got in the pride forParade.
Guys, listen, the year is 20.
The guys, guys listen.
The year is 2019.
We are hired by Lyft, theRideshare App.
Popular Rideshare app, Lyft, tobe on their float with a bunch
of other influencers andBrooklyn Heights and.
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Well, it was hot as fuck.
It's like end, it's the lastweekend of June in Toronto.
June.
Yeah.
So it's hot as balls and we hadto be there super, super, super
fucking early and I knew thatthey wouldn't have like alcohol
on the flow.
So I like packed like.
little flask of tequila and putit in my pussy.
That's a great idea.
(20:53):
And then I kept giving it toBrooklyn Heights and she was
like, I love warm tequila.
Thank you so much.
It was so, it was boiling.
Yeah.
No, it wasn't just hot.
It wasn't just warm, it wasboiling tequila.
I also te like so ti stimulate,stimulate overlayed.
I what?
Oh my God.
Oh my god.
Stimuli overlayed.
That's enough guys.
I'm just gonna go, I'm justgonna turn this, this is, this
is the end of the show.
(21:14):
Sorry you so much.
I'm just gonna go, I'm justgonna go have a nap.
Okay.
Bye.
Stimuli overlayed is thecraziest thing that anyone's
ever said.
Ti I just wanna like break thatdown.
Stimuli overlayed.
Just fucking con still.
Oh my God.
Do you remember that woman whowas on the, the news broadcaster
who was like, she had a heavyrotation.
(21:36):
It's very hav heavy rotation,but she had a stroke.
I think I just had a stroke.
You might have, she had like amini stroke she'd.
Like, are you still functioning?
Stimulate overlayed.
That was crazy.
Overstimulated.
Overly stimulated.
Yes.
Stimulate overlayed.
Crazy work.
I'm gonna say that from now on.
(21:58):
Stimulate overlayed.
I said the first word and I waslike, that's not right, but I'm
gonna say, I'm just gonna sayit.
So guys, right now, I'm almostoverly stimulated.
No stimulate over related.
Just sounds so much better.
Stimulate over related.
That sounds so good.
Like it feels really right tosay.
That was crazy.
Guys, we have fun here on thepodcast.
(22:19):
Let's dig in.
Thanks for coming to dinner andhearing me have a mental
breakdown every week.
You were overstimulated.
You were overstimulated.
We left the fucking.
Float after waving at people forlike hours and hours.
The thing with being on a pr,the thing with being on a pride
parade, stop sniffling.
Oh my God.
The thing with being on a prideflow is that standing there
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dancing and waving at people formultiple, multiple hours, sorry,
it's not fun.
It's not that fun.
Unless you're gonna cut me a fatcheck.
I'm not.
I'm not doing, it's worse if youhave to walk the entire way.
Oh, I would never.
Are you fucking kidding?
Because then sometimes the, thefloats stop.
Right?
They stop for like a period oftime.
So you're just stood there.
No, I do what in the baking sun?
I just like wave at people.
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Yeah.
Which is like do your littleroutine.
I don't know.
Like, I'm sorry.
No, I'm not doing that for thebank.
Banks have pride.
Yeah.
Go.
Yeah.
Lift up.
Lift up.
Yeah.
Lift ride, share.
Live, ride shares.
I love them when they do thingsfor the community, not just like
be at the, for sure.
I mean, they do.
Some of them do.
Yeah.
Some of'em don't anymore.
Anyway, we got paid and we gotlike, and we drank warm tequila
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and I think we got like Lyftcredits for the summer, I think.
So it was like, it was a good,it was a good deal.
That's pretty good.
That's pretty, actually, that'sa pretty good deal.
Let me, let me say yes to that.
And this was before Brooklyn waslike big from drag race and
everything.
This was before she did US DragRace.
She was just a local, she was alocal queen.
She wasn't, huh?
She wasn't.
Huh?
No, she wasn't, wasn't she?
Because we got our dog at thebeginning of 2019.
(23:44):
She was on Drag Race that year.
Oh, we got our dog at thebeginning of 2019 when Drag Race
was airing.
That's why we named our dogEvie, because she was a ganglia
weirdo.
Correct.
After Evie Hudley.
Ah.
So, and they were on the sameand I was listening.
Oh my God.
Really crazy.
I was listening to, sorry, notsorry.
By Demi Lovato on the DriveHome.
'cause it was just on myplaylist and in my mind.
(24:06):
Yeah.
That song is sung by BrooklynHeights.
A hundred percent.
Like it's not sung by anybody.
It's not sung by Put Lovato.
I, it's just like, I can't hearthat song without hearing the
screams of the judges behind.
Yeah, I know.
Behind the song too good.
Anyway, What the fuck was Isaying?
Anyway, I wasim overlay and thenwe had to like, so good go and
(24:27):
meet our friends after and likego for like drinks and go to
like the green space and thenlike go party.
And I was like, I don't want to,I'm too tired now.
Yeah.
It was so much and then it was,and then we did so much more.
It was so much, it's so hardbeing gay.
It really is.
It's like really difficult.
It really is.
And then.
When you go to multiple pridesin a year, which we did last
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year, we did in 2022, we did sixprides in 2022.
Sometimes list them.
Sometimes I just, it's what do Ihave to be proud of?
At the end of the day, this is aquestion you have to ask
yourself every day.
You six one and you're like, amI really that proud?
You have to ask yourself, whatare, what are we, what do we
have to be proud about 2022, weleft Canada and we, we were in
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the process of getting my greencard, so we had to stay in
Europe for like five months.
Yeah.
We had nothing about her to do.
June, July, August, September,October.
It was like four months.
We had nothing to do.
So, so we went to, first we wentto Paris Pride.
Yeah.
Then we went to London Pride.
Yeah.
Then we went to Madrid Pride.
Madrid Pride by accident.
'cause we didn't know it wasgonna be Madrid Pride.
(25:31):
'cause we had tickets for thatfestival.
Mm-hmm.
All things go No, no.
Uh, permis.
Mad Cool, mad Cool Festival.
What a random name.
We saw Florence in the machine.
Now we did see Florence.
I was like, I was like.
Spitting distance.
She could spit in my mouth.
That's how far away she was.
I would prefer if she did.
Yeah.
Didn't or did?
Did.
Oh good.
Of course.
I was like, okay, come on, comeon.
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Madrid by mistake.
Yeah, it was so fun.
I.
Berlin.
Berlin.
Oh yeah.
We went back to Berlin.
So we celebrated our fifth yearanniversary of meeting in Berlin
during Berlin Pride.
We went to Berlin Pride.
Yeah, and then fuck Me.
Can I remember Brighton?
Brighton Pride.
Brighton right after which I wasthe best one.
Really?
Fun was the best one.
Really fun.
Brighton Pride was the best one.
Not best, but like fun.
Brighton Pride was the best one.
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Madrid Pride we didn't really domuch for.
We didn't because we were at thefestival.
I just know it was better forfor sure.
But Bright and Pride was fun'cause all of our friends were
there.
I love Paris Pride too.
Who's Paris?
The vibes were fun.
I can't remember.
Oh yeah, the vibes were fun.
The vibes were fun.
Yeah.
Vibes were fun.
Yeah.
(26:34):
The vibes were fine.
I just remembered.
I remembered.
Yeah, I, the vibes were fine.
Okay.
Bright and Pride was the best itturns out.
And then we went to Malta forPride, and then by that point I
was like, you know what?
I've had enough girl.
No.
We got into Malta for the lastpride, and we got into our
apartment.
And I think we were, the was sonice.
The apartment was so nice.
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The apartment was great.
It was really big.
It was really nice.
But we been traveling for likethree months, four months by By
this point.
Yeah.
And we were supposed to go to aparty that night.
Bear in mind we left Toronto atthe beginning of June.
Yeah.
And then now this is the middleof September.
Yeah.
And we're in Malta.
Yeah.
Uh, and I was like, what thefuck am I doing in Baltimore?
There was a party that night,there's Pride Party that night,
and I was like.
Do you just wanna like get someIndian Yeah, I was like we auto
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an India or an Indian?
Indian and just like watch tv.
Yeah.
Like heavy British population.
So you knew the Indian food wasgonna be like pretty good.
And it was great.
It was great.
And we didn't do anything forthat pride.
We, I didn't, I didn't see asingle gay flag.
No, we didn't go out.
I saw many gay fag, we stayed.
Oh, okay.
(27:37):
I'm gonna have to Google AshChat.
GPT, if you can use the word,the F word, I can censor or
whatever the F word on the,don't censor me.
Actually do not censor me.
This is an uncensored podcast.
Exactly.
It's also explicit.
So explicit, explicit mean, likecurse words or like You can, you
can explicit and I'm a gay man,so it's okay.
Well you've been saying pussy amillion times.
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and then, then we, and then wemoved here and then the year
after that we went to SanFrancisco Pride, which is our
first San Francisco pride.
And then we met all of our bestfriends and then, and then I
died and everything was perfect.
I cannot think about SanFrancisco Pride last year
because I was, I don't wannatalk about it.
Not, well, that's not, I don'twanna talk about it.
Unwell.
So we also say that like, youknow, pride is like, you know,
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we're, what are we doing?
Like what are we, what are wedoing?
We're like fundraising, we'relike trying to raise awareness.
We're also like, it's soimportant for like smaller
communities to have prideevents.
Especially like this year withthe like mass, DEI, um, yeah.
Rollbacks.
Yeah.
All of these smaller towns arehaving all of their like funding
(28:40):
cut for Yeah.
Pride events.
Yeah.
And what do they do?
Yeah.
Like some of these events arelike salvation for so many
people that live in these likesmaller towns, like a, in the
middle of nowhere.
Yeah.
And it's a, it's the only waythat they can like, have
community and like mm-hmm.
Be around people and actuallyget to know.
The community at large, um, andjust also like, feel like
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they're free and it's how I feelabout Queer Eye, like right
Queer Eye is like great for likestraight people and like baby
Gaze and like people who likeneed to see themselves
represented and like.
All that jazz, but for me, inthe stage of life I'm at, it's
so corporate and it just feelslike nonsensical.
(29:24):
Especially in a major city.
Yes.
Because like what do we do atPride?
Like what do we do and what doesthe general gay male population
mm-hmm.
Party and some lesbians Yeah.
Do for Pride Party and everyoneelse in the.
Party go to parties.
Oh, okay.
I was like, am I right?
(29:45):
We go to parties.
Yeah.
We go to this day party on theSaturday, and then we go to that
day party on the Sunday.
Yeah.
And then we go to this party andthen that party.
I think there are differentpurposes for pride because I
think the, the partying forpride, it might seem trivial,
but it is a part of that strongpart of the celebration, like so
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celebrating and being free andbeing able to just like.
Go make out with people or justlike have drinks with your
friends or just like have fun.
That's a key part of pride.
Like a key part of pride is justhaving fun and dancing.
Oh, isn't that that book?
Yeah.
Gay bar.
Why We Went out?
Yeah, just like being out anddancing and having a fun time.
That is just as important asprotests and raising awareness
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and all of that.
I agree.
I agree.
I do think like people havedifferent purposes for pride.
Like my purpose right now isn'tfor self identity.
And like going and out andseeing rainbows and seeing and
seeing representation.
'cause like I'm I personally me,I'm good for that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What it all is, what otherpurposes are raising awareness
and helping other people whomight not be as fortunate as I
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am or in the same place.
Yeah.
And another purpose is havingfun and just like letting loose
and dancing.
Totally.
Because pride is joy andcommunity.
Yeah.
It's just mostly community.
It's like that's what I loveabout Pride now.
Yeah.
Is just being able to spend timewith like all of my.
Queer friends.
Exactly.
Just like all these gay peoplethat I all of a sudden know and
that's a beautiful, we moved toSan Francisco, like before we
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moved to San Francisco, wedidn't really have that many gay
friends.
Mm-hmm.
Toronto, we had like a handfulof close friends.
Mm-hmm.
Pandemic.
The pandemic really squashed ourability to make friends.
Mm-hmm.
Throughout most of that time.
But we moved to San Franciscoand then all of a sudden we've
been here for two and a halfyears and I know like.
Everybody.
Yeah.
I feel like I know so manypeople now.
Yeah.
That's a beautiful thing.
Yeah, it's great.
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That's why I love, I love,sometimes it's not a beautiful
thing'cause I hate a lot ofpeople, but I mean, we can talk
about that.
No, no, no.
Um, I What's have to be proud ofto hate?
Well, that is an important pointthat I wanted to bring up.
That's a little bit, animportant point.
An important point.
Because generally as influenzas,as the Spanish influenzas.
(31:51):
Yeah.
Um, as influencers, a lot of ourpro, a lot of our general income
in the past has been centeredaround two main periods of the
year, Christmas in the holidays,and pride, two main points of
the years where we get a lot ofour campaigns and have in mo for
like most of our careers asinfluencers.
Yeah, in the past couple ofyears, there has been a shift,
(32:13):
huge shift, big shift that wefelt in our careers and that you
can visibly see in marketingcampaigns and in corporate, the
corporate world.
And just like looking out intothe world, like corporations as
a whole are shifting away frompride, And the, the pride
activation and like the pridebudget that they've had, like it
is shifting away because we dostill get pride campaigns, but
(32:35):
not to the same level that wehave in the past.
Yeah.
No.
Well, you can really tell, youcan tell that brands are like
less pride, pride focused.
Yeah.
And that has something to dowith our also, they're not even
less pride focused.
Like, it, it was a API month.
I didn't see a single.
Yeah.
Other Asian creator do anythingpro A API related.
Yeah.
And it was Black History Month.
I didn't see a single, likethese brands, especially like
(32:58):
beauty brands like these, thesetimes of the year, it's their
like moment to kind of likespotlight a lot of creators who
are part of this community.
Yeah.
And build up and like make theircommunity.
Yeah.
And no one's been doing itrecently and it's not because
of.
Because you might be sayinglike, oh, brands are just like
not spending as much influ moneyon influencers.
(33:19):
No brands are spending likethis.
It's continuously growing everysingle year.
How much brands are spending oninfluencers, they're just not
putting it on these specificmonths and seasons dedicated to
diversity.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and that's very telling ofjust like this year, especially
with like the Trump and the DEIand everything.
And it just like, I thinkthere's a lot of pressure on
these corporations to, I thinkthere's two things.
(33:40):
There's, there's pressure on thecorporations to, um, not.
Support, pride in all theseinitiatives from the right wing.
And there's not as much pressurefrom the left wing for them to
do it because I think we're alldone with the corporations.
Like we're all like, why do wecare if corporations support
pride and do all theseinitiatives?
we see support, like the supportis good from someplace like
(34:00):
Abercrombie.
They always donate a certainamount to Trevor Project.
Amazing.
Yeah.
But generally it does.
It is performative for themajority of brands.
But then like, where's the line?
Where can you say like, oh, youare a brand and you are
supporting Pride.
You have a Pride collection,you're gonna be donating X
amount of money from thatcollection to like the Trevor
Project per se.
Yeah.
And then where's the line andwhere do you draw the line?
(34:21):
By being like, actually, I don'tthink that this is like this.
This feels like you're kind ofdoing this to just like.
Be part of like a trend that'shappening right now or like you
want to like seem like you'redoing more than you actually are
because this is the case with alot of brands.
'cause you have like, I don'tknow, big telecommunications
companies that are owned byhumongous Republicans.
(34:44):
Mm-hmm.
And they have donated andcontinue to donate so much money
to the Trump campaign andmm-hmm.
Republican party overall.
And then they'll have this likepride campaign and I'm like,
that's disingenuous becausethat's why you have to like.
We have to use our brains.
Yeah.
Crazy.
Let's put on our thinking capsand look over, like look at, uh,
look at these brands as a wholeand like what they do their
(35:05):
entire years, which we don't.
Yeah.
'cause we forget about like,everyone forgets about pride as
soon as June's over and it'sjust a thing.
But like, what are you doingthroughout the year and do you
just come to June and say, puton a rainbow on your logo and
say like, cool.
Done?
Or do you.
Do a massive donation in I, Ithink it's more important for
these brands to do a massivedonation like I think
Abercrombie does, like 250,000to the Trevor Project or
(35:26):
something.
Some massive number like thatevery year, no matter what the
sales are from their pridecollection.
Yeah, that's good.
We did a Abercrombie campaignlike two years ago.
Yeah, it's time.
Two years ago we were like onthe storefronts of like
abercrombie's across NorthAmerica and Europe.
It was kind of crazy.
Yeah.
And.
They donated like an X amountregardless of sales.
They donated an X amount ofmoney to the Trevor Project.
(35:47):
Yeah.
they also, for this pridecampaign, they only hired queer
creatives, a queer photographer,a queer, um, art makeup, makeup
artist, I think Word.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Gay.
Um, the marketing, the marketingdirector.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Gay.
Um, various people in theL-G-B-T-C-Q community were like
(36:08):
part of the campaign.
Um, that is not performativebecause you see Abercrombie
working throughout the year onthese sorts of things.
Yeah, just as an example.
Um, I think milk makeup alsodoes, I, we just, and House
Labs.
Yeah.
They do great things, things allthe time.
House right now, house Labsthrough the month of June, house
Labs is donating$1 of everySephora sale to.
to the Born, born This WayFoundation.
(36:30):
Is that a foundation?
Yeah.
Born This Way.
Foundation?
Yeah.
$1 from every house Lab's sale.
That's amazing.
'cause sometimes it's like, oh,we're gonna donate 5 cents.
We're gonna donate a nickelevery single time someone's
bought, someone buys ours.
Here's a spit.
Yeah.
Here's a piece.
Here's my spit.
Here's a as a donation.
Yeah.
But that's pretty good though.
I mean like house lab sales arefor like fucking crazy and the
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products are incredible.
Yeah, exactly.
So like, like put your moneywhere your mouth is.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
Do it that, that I don't care.
That I think because you also,like, you can see, like, you
know, you've, you've experiencedthe target.
The target ification.
Mm.
The target ification of like,Performative activism.
Have you seen their pridecollection?
Do they have one?
Yes.
I'm surprised.
It is the funniest shit.
I'm surprised.
(37:11):
Have you seen Levi's PrideCollection?
I Levi's is always kind of cute.
It's like wearable.
It depends.
It's not too like that one yearit wasn't.
Oh my God.
There was one year.
Okay, sorry.
Levi's do love you.
What year was this?
It was when we were in Torontoand they, they wanted us to do
the campaign and I was like, I'mnot wearing that.
Sorry.
2020?
Yeah.
Two.
They had like a one a, a denimjacket and on the back of it it
said he, him, she, her, they,them.
(37:35):
We crazy.
That's crazy.
Is Sorry.
It was sorry.
So we, we I get what they I getit.
Get it.
I get it.
I get it.
I understand.
I get it.
It was in the love, the idea.
It was in the love, theenthusiasm.
Hate the execution.
Hate it, hate it.
He, she, oh no, he, he, she, he,she did.
(37:57):
And we blew hair barista.
I'm like, you just took pronounsas a trend and just put it onto
a.
Levi's, vegan, vegetarian,non-binary.
Gimme one.
Exactly.
Um, pride's target's pridecollection is just so funny
'cause they have these dragqueen birds.
What, what they just, birds Likewhat?
(38:20):
They have birds that are dressedup in pride collection birds.
And it's just these birds thatare dressed up.
Bird figurines celebrate pride.
It doesn't make sense.
What?
What are these Pride, feathery,friend collectible, bird
figurines.
What does this have to do withpride?
What do you just say?
What does that have to do withpride?
Tell me, I'm, I'm stimulateoverlayed.
(38:42):
Wait, tell me, is thiscollection?
Yes.
It's part of the pridecollection.
They're birds dressed as as, asMaria Antoinette.
What?
Why is the bird and the MariaAntoinette closed?
What the fuck?
Let them eat bird seed.
What?
You are joking.
I'm not joking, joking.
Is that what it's called?
Let them eat Bird seed.
No, that was just something Imade up.
That's funny.
I know.
That's so funny.
Thank you.
I'm funny God, let them eat birdseed.
(39:05):
That's crazy.
Wait, this is the stupidestthing I've ever seen.
This is their pride collection.
It's part of the Pridecollection clothes.
It's not wearables.
There are wearables, but that'spart, that's one of the, no,
it's not just birds.
The but the birds are a key partof their pride collection.
What the fuck?
I don't know why this is crazy,because what does, what do birds
have to do with pride or target?
This is, this is a recession indecay for sure.
(39:26):
Shake that back because who'sbuying this?
Someone?
It's got 24 reviews.
Wait, what are the reviews onthe Marie Antoinette bird?
It's so crazy.
Wait, what is it?
What is it?
What is it?
What?
What is Wait, wait, wait, wait,wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait.
this review, it's entitled,honey, please.
Two stars.
The library is open and thisqueen is not ready to fly.
(39:48):
The Coop Dolla Storm overAntoinette five and dime Dolly
Parton.
No clue.
But this queen is not so muchready for pride as she is ready
for a redo.
Who the fuck?
And the next one is, that'sfunny.
Funny.
Yes.
Love queen would adore moreroyalty ones.
They love the birds.
(40:09):
Who the fuck is buying this birdEnough?
Also boycott Fucking target.
You fucking losers, rightfreaks.
This is what I was gonna sayabout Target.
Target had their pridecollection last year and they
like removed.
Yeah.
Some items from it.
They had binders, they had likebinder swimsuits or something,
but like they, they took away alot of it because there was a
lot of.
Like I think the right wingbacklash has always been there.
(40:31):
Obviously also the fuckingpussies.
Target stand on business.
Target is pussies.
Target has, target has neverstood on business.
This is a target hate podcast.
Tea Target has never stood onbusiness because as soon as they
get like one piece of backlashfrom any of their conservative,
they used to conservative butfucks they fucking crumble.
Like a crumble.
Cookies aren't even crumbly, sothey crumble.
(40:51):
Like what the fucking crumbles.
Oh, like a Nature Valley bar?
Mm-hmm.
They crumble like a naturefucking valley bar.
There you go.
And then all of a sudden.
They fucking fold and theyremove all that shit and they're
like, oh, sorry.
Oh, you don't like this pridecollection?
We'll remove it.
Sorry.
Don't worry.
Oh, you don't like this DEIinitiative?
Well, don't worry, we're notdoing that anymore.
Yeah.
Fuck you.
Target you fucking clowns.
He They are fucking losers andwe don't support them.
(41:12):
Bike, uh, on the topic ofboycotting, yeah, Taylor Swift
recently just released, I mean,she bought out her entire.
Old discography.
Yeah.
Is that right?
I saw TikTok.
I haven't, I haven't kept upwith that bitch.
Sorry, TikTok.
I don't give a fuck.
Really?
Um, people have been now excitedto listen to her old, like non
Telas version albums.
Correct.
Because she has, now she ownsthem all again.
(41:35):
Sure.
So she rebought, she bought herold collection.
Sure.
She did an Instagram post beinglike, there's a fucking lyric in
one of her songs.
Something about me.
I don't know.
You brought this up.
I don't fucking know.
Anyway.
And then everyone's coming andpeople are like, oh my God,
thank God I've been, I haven'tlistened to this song in like
six years because it's, I mean,it's my favorite song in the
whole world.
Like, oh my God, I love thissong so much.
(41:56):
So the girlies do know how toboycott, but they don't, they
still go to Starbucks and theystill go to Target and they
still eat a fucking McDonald's.
And there is the tea, which areall trash establishments.
I have to say, fucking hell.
Anyway.
Teas.
That's my rant for the day.
Wow.
I'm angry.
You just stood up.
I'm, you just stood up onbusiness.
I'm Stu no one else is gonna,no.
(42:18):
But we gotta, and that's what wedo here.
At least again here, I'm here Iam.
This pride month, standing onthese bitches necks.
Happy pride.
Stand down.
Bitches.
Necks.
Exactly.
Put that on a fucking T-shirtand sell it.
I, and I'll buy it and I'lldonate the money.
Would you buy it?
And I'll donate the money.
Let's merch.
Happy Pride Month.
Stand on Bitch's Neck.
(42:39):
That's great.
I love that copywriting.
It.
Oh my god.
Stand on bitches.
Next they fucking, yeah.
That's so good.
That was really good.
Oh my God.
Okay.
I just feel like there's nowhereelse we can go other than away,
down, back to hell where webelong.
Yeah.
No, no.
There's like, there's no,there's no like peaking from
this moment of the episode, so Ithink that should just be like,
(43:00):
do you know when the, the dinnerparty's like been so fun and
you're like, okay, yeah.
Now you have to go.
Yeah.
It's just like this conversationis getting old.
Yeah.
Bye.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, imagine we just ended thatepisode.
Just ends.
That's how we should have.
That'd be kind of funny.
Okay.
Bye.
I'm over this conversation.
I'm leaving now.
(43:20):
Then the ends, music plays.
God bless guys.
Celebrate pride.
However you feel like you wantto feel proud, be proud.
Do proud or don't.
Oh my God.
Have do you know what I hate themost?
Why we knew there should be asegment?
What do you hate the most thisweek?
Ooh.
That's great.
That's a great thing.
Ooh, that's a great segment.
That's a great segment.
(43:40):
Okay, what do you mean?
Let me keep changing oursegments.
We're like, let's end with likea fun game or like a fun like
thing that we learned this week.
This is actually, we're haters.
What do I fucking hate the mostthis week?
Okay, go.
Do you know what I hate the mostthis week?
What?
In the Castro, there is onehouse.
If this is your house, I'msorry, but fucking take it down.
There is a house and it has alittle goose.
(44:02):
LED in the window.
Yeah.
And it says, be gay, do crime.
And every time I see that,'causesometimes I have to park in
front of it.
'cause the only fucking spot inthe area that's a parking spot,
I have to see it.
And I just like, oh.
It gives me whiplash.
No.
The millennial goose needs tobe, the millennial goose needs
to fu and also do crime.
(44:23):
Shut up.
Like, what crime are you doing?
You're not doing crime.
You're not doing crime, you'renot doing crime.
You're, you're making parking inthe wrong spot.
You're not doing crime.
You maybe got a parking ticketand you said, oh, I'm a
criminal, and then cried aboutit.
No, millennials need to stop,like they need to be stopped.
As a millennial myself, you needto be stopped.
'cause who is being gay anddoing like, shut up, shut up,
(44:43):
shut up, shut up, shut up.
Who do I hate the most?
Who, um, who, who is a differentstory.
I've got many of those too.
What?
I, uh, God, I, can I say I hatethe rainbow flag?
You can say you hate the rainbowflag.
Can I say I hate the rainbowflag?
Yeah.
You can say, because I haterainbows.
I hate rainbow merch.
Let me just, mer merch is good.
Rainbow mech.
I get it.
I do ha like, no, I, Iappreciate the history of the
(45:05):
rainbow flag, whatever.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I don't like rainbow things.
I think it's ugly.
I think if you can't do it well,you can't make it look nice.
No, I have never seen what ParisHilton was wearing at the WeHo.
Pride was fine.
It was actually cute and I waslike, this is kind of nice.
She wearing, but the majority ofrainbow merch that you see at
(45:26):
prize, pick a fucking color.
It's so fucking ugly.
I've seen rainbow suits.
I've seen rainbow tshirts.
Joe, you're gonna, you have todrive T-shirt.
A lot of people who are probablygonna wear something cute.
Pride related merch.
Make it cute then.
Sorry.
Make it cute.
you're a hater.
You're a hater too.
Yeah.
I You just insulted the entiremillennial generation and the
(45:48):
goose lovers.
No, that's just that one person.
Imagine if they're like someonewho like listens to our podcast
and they're like, oh, that's myhouse.
Sorry.
If you don't wanna hear ouropinions, don't listen to our
podcast.
Yeah, well, sorry, I don't likerainbows Anyway, and that's my
tea.
Okay.
Wow.
Hate month.
Happy hate month, everyone.
(46:08):
There's no pride without hate.
You're so right.
You know?
Yeah.
We have to have something tofight back against and I'm
providing it.
If you like this podcast, pleasegive us a review on wherever you
listen.
Don't forget to follow us on allsocial media platforms.
Thumbs up, don't thumbs down.
Is that even something you cando?
(46:29):
Thumbs down, diva.
I don't know.
Diva, I'll thumbs down.
You and you'll be my most hatednext time.
Oh my God.
I'm a little sassy today.
You are a little bit sassytoday.
I don't know why.
It's the, it's the demon pride,the spirit of Satan, the pride
demon, the the spirit of BESabove.
Exactly.
(46:49):
And with that, we'll see youfucking next time or not, but
probably.
What?
Say something.
Okay, then.
Bye.
Half a PR.
Hi gay.
Welcome to the Butter Shop.
Welcome to that butter shopthat's only open during pride.
What else does she say in thatthing?
Do you know how I thought thatgirl was only famous for that
one thing, but she was like, whywas she a guest judge in
RuPaul's Drag Race that onetime?
Because she's a famous comedian.
Is she?
Actually, yeah.
I had no idea who she is.
I had no idea either.
I still like, that's the ButterGirl.
I still don't really know whoshe is.
Max Ter?
(00:20):
Yes.
Oh yeah.
See, I know that name, but I,she's so funny, but I didn't
know she was anything more thanthe Butter girl.
Have you pride everyone?
I got my ice coffee.
The gates of Heller opened.
Well that happened during theGemini season, during the, the
start of Gemini season.
And now it is not a coincidencethat Gemini season and pride
month are on the same.
It's also not a coincidence thatit is Gemini Sea.
(00:42):
Well, it was my birthday on thefirst day of Pride month.
Yeah, the world felt theearthquake that happened when
you were I was also born three,three, three.
So I know we've discussed that.
I'm that spooky.
Really.
Have we discussed that?
We did that.
We talked about this last time.
Oh yeah.
Can I shut up for a second?
Do you remember much?
No.
Exactly.
Like can I like actually shutthe fuck up for a second half of
pride?
It's pride.
My god.
Time for time.
(01:03):
For time for gayness.
And I can't say the F word onhere, can I?
It's, I mean, I can say itgenerally, but you can.
You won.
Can I say it on the podcast?
Will Spotify banners, if we usethe word fag, we'll find out I
guess.
'cause that's going in there.
Great.
Perfect.
For effect.
Forry Forgo forry.
Um, yeah, pride.
(01:23):
Woo woo.
I feel like all we do on thispodcast is talk about our first
times doing things in the world.
No, but that's just how my mindworks though.
Let's dig into pride and allthat means to us and what we've
done for pride in the past.
Do you know about like, I havelike brand partnerships we've
done during Pride, pridecampaigns, like during Pride
campaigns.
So many, and they've been like,what does pride mean to you?
(01:44):
And we've been like, oh my God,it means so much.
I'm like, what is I really, am Ireally into pride anymore?
I think when you were likeyoung.
Do you know what I mean though?
Yeah, yeah.
I agree.
Like I'm in this stage in mylife where I'm like.
Again, it's important.
I love pride.
Well, we did like seven lastyear.
I know.
So like now I'm like, I I couldtake a break.
(02:06):
Lemme do a baseline.
It's like Christmas.
Like Christmas.
I could take a break for you.
Exactly.
I could take a break for you.
Exactly.
I could take a break for you.
It like, sometimes it's toomuch.
Let me take a break for you.
It's like I'm over the giftgiving.
I'm over the pageantry.
I'm over it.
Who, who?
You, you give gifts to a, apride.
No, I was talking aboutChristmas.
Oh yeah.
Let me give a baseline.
There are things I want say thatI, lemme give a baseline.
Actually.
Can't say, lemme give a baselinefor my feelings on pride.
(02:29):
It, it's very important and verycrucial to our community and
it's very, very amazing.
And I love pride.
Sometimes I'm over it, sometimesI'm over the rainbows.
I fucking hate.
No, it's corporation rainbows.
It's corporate pride.
That's what I'm do, that's whatI'm talking about.
Sucks because I've been thinkingabout this.
I'm thinking.
I know crazy.
I've been thinking about thisspit out and I'm like, what?
(02:51):
I'm setting the scene.
Let's just spit it out.
I'm setting the scene.
I'll spit on you.
Please don't.
Please.
I thought you could say Pleasedo.
And I was like, oh, it's notthat kind.
Podcast.
Sleep.
Please don't.
No.
So here's what I'm ta Here'swhat I'm thinking.
Here's what I'm think.
Get off your phone.
I'm listening guys.
Look at me.
You're also, you're not talkingto me.
I am talking to you.
This is a conversation betweenus.
Here's what I'm thinking.
'cause I'm like, why was pride?
(03:13):
Why was pride so different in mymind?
Like when I was 23, 24 than itis now that I'm 30 and I think
Pride 2024.
Mine.
I, yeah.
No, that was my first pride.
What?
Yes.
You don't know that.
My first pride was Berlin Pride.
You are fucking joking.
In 2017, you're fucking joking.
(03:33):
2017 was my first pride.
You're joking.
No, Berlin.
Berlin Pride.
2017.
Do we met a week after that?
Right?
I know.
That's crazy.
That was my first pride ever.
Wait, that's nuts.
And I was 23.
That's nuts.
No, you were 22.
22.
Yeah.
That's nuts.
That's nuts.
So we'll get into that.
But I was thinking why does thatfeel right?
I know.
It's crazy.
That's wild.
I know.
I'm a baby.
Oh my God.
Are I have a baby?
Are are you okay?
(03:53):
I grew up in North Carolina.
Oh, that's true.
Like your universities Have youthink Boone, North Carolina had
pride?
A Pride March?
I don't know.
We barely had a gay Sexual.
Gay.
What?
What?
You can stop right there, gay.
You can stop right there.
Gay Straight Alliance.
We didn't have a Gay StraightAlliance.
(04:14):
I was the Gay Straight Alliance.
Yeah.
You lived in Manchester.
Yeah.
Well, so that's a big city.
Anyways, so what I was thinkingis like why was, why was my
feeling about going to pridesdifferent in like when I was 22
than when I'm 2030?
I'm just thinking it's very,extremely corporate, very, the
corporateness of pride I thinkhas gotten out of hand.
(04:34):
And I'm also gonna say that the,I've mo mostly been to your base
mostly.
Like you sounded really ParkerPosey and we Lewis then I am
going.
Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm from NorthCarolina.
Yeah, I know, but you likereally should do that accent a
little bit more like tsunami.
No, that rubs really good.
That was, what were you saying?
Okay.
Whatever I was saying, stopinterrupting me so I can
remember my story.
(04:55):
God, I was saying that I'vemostly been to European prides.
I've like barely been to USprides, which is.
Honestly, I'd say that they werebetter because they're less
corporate.
That's what I'm saying, like Ifeel like every single pride
that I've been to in Europe justfelt more community focused.
Even Canada, to an extent, like,'cause we've went to Montreal
Pride, not fucking Toronto.
Montreal.
(05:15):
Yeah, Montreal.
Yeah.
Like a European esque.
Pride is a little bit.
Less corporate, a little bitmore community focused.
It feels like there's moremessages, there's more meaning
to it.
It feels like more of a protestthan the prides here, like a
match and a celebration, butalso a protest.
Whilst here, this is literallyjust like, Hey guys, welcome to
(05:35):
this, this.
I'm a bank, this.
Yeah.
And I am a telecommunicationscompany and I have a rainbow in
my logo, and I'm a grocerystore.
Yes.
Hello.
Happy pride, everyone.
What can I think of?
Like, I can't even say I've beento Pride.
I've been to Pride like inToronto.
Like the parade.
Yeah.
I would never go to the paradeyet.
My first pride, I was in theparade.
(05:55):
Yeah.
Did you know that?
No.
I was on a float in Berlin withOh, you do tell.
You tell me this.
With that guy that I was seeingat at the time.
Yeah.
You tell me this.
Y Yannick.
That is so funny.
Yannick.
Yeah.
I went on a pride float with himfor my first fucking pride.
What was the brand?
I don't know.
Or like thing.
(06:16):
Some underwear brand probably,or some shit.
I don't know.
It was Berlin and then itstarted pouring down rain.
That pride.
Yeah, I remember it.
That's why we didn't go to likereally late.
It was so fun.
We didn't go celebr really late.
It was so fun.
one of my best friends from theUK was visiting me.
That pride.
Uh, in 27.
Yeah.
20, 20 17.
Yeah.
And she like, we just like wentto our friends and she's like,
pre-gamed and like a bunch ofpeople came there'cause it was
kind of close to, um, the brand.
(06:38):
Berg Gate brand.
Berger Tour brand, Berger Tour.
Brandon Berger, brand BergerTour, the brand Berger tour.
And, um.
The victory column, whatever thefuck.
Yeah.
And uh, and the thing withEuropean, everyone's like, there
was like a bunch of people thatjust like came to my friend's
place that was close by.
Mm.
And so we were just likepre-game there until like the
rain stopped, which was at like,we were planning together at
(06:59):
like midday and rain didn't stoptill like four.
Well, the thing with Europeanprides.
That I find does kind of happenhere, but it's not the same
'cause you can't drink on thestreets.
And that has, that has a certainfunness to it, that it ends in
like a big community block partyat the end of the pride route
all the time.
And that kind of happens herelike at Civic Center in, in San
(07:20):
Francisco.
Like it kind, it happens.
Who, who's going to that?
People, people go.
But it doesn't have the samefeel to it as the European ones.
No.
Europe is just like, it's justEurope.
Especially volume for Europe.
Yeah, that was my first pride.
That was a Berlin Pride.
That's crazy.
And you were in, in the paradeand did you get rained on?
Uh, yeah, I mean it was pretty,it was pissing it down.
(07:40):
Yeah, But it was fun.
It's like rain on me, tsunami.
It was fun.
Rain on me.
Tsunami.
Yeah.
Great, great, great, great.
Good job.
Both done.
Well done.
Well done.
It was fun.
It was a good time.
I was like, wow, this is gay.
And especially Berlin, it waslike, oh, it was very, very gay.
Super gay zpa.
Gay zpa.
Gay zpa, zpa guile.
Okay, please, I'm gonna have ananeurysm.
(08:02):
That's so fun for you.
How was your first project?
I was 15 and I snuck in.
That's a full almost decadebetween, so between us, so
watching it was like heavy intosex and city at this point.
Mm-hmm.
'cause my cousin had the box setand she used to live with us.
And so it was, house is the keypoint of the, it really is just
wait till, wait till you seewhat happens.
So I used to sneak outta myhouse all the time.
This was, I was 15 years old andI obviously didn't have an id.
(08:25):
My brother got a fake ID when hewas 16.
I never had a fake ID sayingthat he was 18, and so I started
using his fake ID when I was 14,15.
Because you looked the same, Iwould just like take it out.
Yeah.
No, we look, we look the same.
When we were in high school, welooked exactly the same.
Oh, sure.
Yeah, yeah.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
Everyone used to call me minibial, like in, in high school.
Every, like, all of his friendswould close only two years older
(08:48):
than me.
They'd see me like walkingaround school.
He'd be like, oh, it's mini bi.
Whoa.
Yeah.
I know.
I guess out of all yourbrothers, he looks, he looked
the most identical when we werein high school.
We looked identical pretty much.
Yeah.
He still could.
And No, not right now.
Not identical.
No, no, no.
But there's more similarities.
Yeah.
I became a massive fag numbertwo.
Okay.
I became a massive homosexual.
(09:10):
I became a raging homosexual andnow he has a wife do lead two.
And so do you.
You're right.
You're actually right.
I do have a wife and that's,we're, we're, we're the same.
You are so Right.
And a dog.
They have a dog too.
You're so right now, continuewith your first pride today.
So heavy into Sex and City'causeYeah.
My cousin was just like.
How the fuck sat?
And I was just like so into it.
(09:32):
Let's make you gay.
No, I was already gay.
I, I came out three, four years.
Let's you more gay.
Let's up three years beforethis.
Let's make you more gay.
Mind you and I, me and myfriends like, snuck out.
We like went into, into the city15.
I wasn't allowed to go intoManchester.
I like lived closer toStockport, which is, you know,
we've been to Stockport, I'vebeen to Stockport.
So I lived closer to Stockport.
(09:52):
I was only allowed to go intoStockport.
I wasn't allowed to go intoManchester'cause that's too far
away.
And you have to like take thetrain.
Yeah, I wasn't allowed to dothat yet.
So too many temptations, but hadfucking did it anyway.
Yeah, obviously, obviously.
So I snuck into sea, obviouslywore my like ugliest outfit.
'cause Describe it, it was apink shirt.
Ugh.
It was a pink, like what kind ofpink button?
(10:13):
Like salmon.
See it was really ugly.
Yeah, it was ugly.
Like for like Easter.
Oh my God.
It was a really ugly, likepastel pink.
No, it was ugly than pastelpink.
Oh, it was like it was a buttondown.
Yeah, you wore a button down.
It was like a slim fit to pride.
It was like a slim shirt.
No, that's slim fit.
It was 2000, and I'm gonna sayeight.
Okay.
It was 2008.
Yeah.
(10:33):
Yeah.
So almost 10 years before youwent to your first parade.
That's fucked.
It wasn't, it was 2007.
Hmm.
It was 2007, so exactly 10 yearsbefore you went to your pride.
Crazy.
2007 and I, yeah, me and myfriends.
So in Manchester Gate, the gayvillage.
Uh, during pride, it's likesectioned off.
There's like fences around, soyou have to have tickets to
enter.
Right.
We snuck in.
(10:54):
Right.
Wait, what else are you, wereyou wearing though?
Oh, like black plants and likeheels.
I had these like pumps.
Yeah, I know.
Wait, I'm imagine.
Is there any accessories?
Were there any accessories?
I had like a, like a pearlynecklace that Oh, oh my God.
Okay.
It was like a beauty kind of,kind of imagine what you would
think people would wear at, um,what's that thing that happens
in New Orleans?
That like festival.
Oh.
Um, um, Mardi Gras.
(11:14):
Mardi Gras, and you've got thoseugly beads on, bear in mind
again, it's 2007.
This feels like something that,so I'm wearing like a, a, a pink
button up.
Yeah.
With like, it's like open up tomy, like chest.
Ah, and then I'm wearing likethis beaded, these beaded
necklaces.
Or like, and they're tied, soyou like you wear them, but then
you tie them in a knot onthemselves.
So there's like a little knot inthe middle.
(11:35):
Oh.
But then it's like dangles.
Oh, it's fashionable.
Okay.
This outfit does feel very sexin the city.
Appropriate.
This makes sense.
But also it's 2007 and that waslike.
I was like a little gay boyexperimenting with fashion.
Totally experimenting wrong forsure, but like at the time it
was like I was like up and upand coming.
You're like, Did you see whateveryone else wearing in 2007?
Are you blind?
I was wearing, no, everyone waswearing ugly shit in 2007.
(11:57):
That what we did.
Okay.
Hmm.
And I really think there was awaist coat on top of it too.
What?
There was a waist coat.
So can you imagine like a HannahMontana kind of outfit?
Define waist coat was like a, awaistcoat that you'd wear?
You mean like a, A blazer?
No, no, no.
Sleeveless.
Imagine like Hannah Montana.
Like a Hannah Montana esqueoutfit.
(12:18):
Yeah.
You're imagining it.
Imagine it.
A vest.
Yeah, like a vest.
A vest.
A vest.
Yeah.
Unbuttoned.
Checkered.
I'm imagining checkered.
No, no, it was black.
That's it was black.
The shirt was pink.
The, the, the dangly jewels werelike white, I think.
Did you have your Pete wind hairthen?
I'd have my pee went hair.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And had like these like sidebangs.
(12:39):
I'm imagining this so hard rightnow.
I get yelled at by my mom allthe time to like cut my fucking
hair, but I never, yeah.
I was like, you know, I had mylike Masha hair.
Yeah.
Like big emo hair.
Whoa.
And.
Yeah, like, and I did my makeuptoo.
I feel like Pete went, wore thisexact outfit.
Outfit.
Exactly.
No, no, no, exactly.
'cause again, it's 2007.
Yeah, it's panic at the disco.
It's Fallout Boys.
Yeah, it's Avril Levine.
Like this is my inspiration.
It's like Hannah Montana.
(12:59):
Like Yeah, on the other, on theother side.
Yeah.
Sns Hannah Montana.
Fallout boy.
Yeah, exactly.
And so I, yes, we snuck in, welike snuck in through like the
fence and we just like went toone of the bars.
Do you remember GAY?
I do unfortunately remember GA,across from there there's the
canal.
Yeah.
And then on that side wherelike.
(13:20):
If you look, if you're standingin front of GAY, exactly across
from it, but then that waytowards the main street.
Mm-hmm.
Closest to the street side.
Yeah.
There was like a little boatbar.
Yes.
And then they didn't ID anyoneperfect.
And we just like went in and Iwas like, it was my first
alcoholic beverage I everordered at a bar.
You've told me this about Idrink, I've had drinks.
Like I had my first drink when Iwas 14 at like a football game
(13:43):
and I know what it was.
I sat down and I said, I'll havea Cosmo.
Ah, yeah, just like that.
Yeah.
Ill have a Cosmo just like that.
I'll have a Cosmo and that's.
A big faggot was born numberthree.
You had a Cosmopolitan as yourfirst drink in a bar.
(14:04):
Yeah.
That's wild.
Isn't crazy.
Didn't you?
Didn't you?
Did you know that CarrieBradshaw?
Well, what's her name?
Sarah Jessica Parker didn't haveher first Cosmo.
During Sex The City until afterthe show ended.
You joking?
None of none of those were real.
Oh, she didn't have her firstCosmo to of the, yeah, but after
the show ended, yeah.
Guess what?
They're not good.
Yeah, obviously.
What are they?
It's like cranberry heavy.
(14:24):
It's, and vodka.
Yeah, it's just vodka andcranberry, I think.
I think it's like, imagine like,no, it's not vodka cranberry,
but imagine like a martini, butit's like cranberry, right?
Cranberry, yes.
Right.
Cosmopolitan cocktail.
Cosmo Pollin.
Like who the fuck is drinking acosmopolitan?
Old ladies.
Literally old ladies.
I was dressed like one.
oh.
(14:44):
Yeah.
It's, it's vodka quantro ortriples sec.
And then lime and then cranberryjuice.
Whoa.
All of you did a diet version.
It might not be that bad, like asugar for cranberry.
No, it was, it was likecranberry, sugar heavy.
It was very like, yeah, it wasvery, but it was strong.
Because it was strong.
It was like a martini.
It's just like, it's justalcohol, right?
And then a splash of cranberry,right?
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Anyway, I got pretty drunk.
Mm.
And then I don't really rememberhow that night ended, but I
think I got yelled at.
You don't need to know by mymother.
think my oldest brother as well.
'cause I stuck into the city andI think he found out.
And then he like didn't tell mymom.
Oh.
He was like, I'm gonna tell her.
Yeah.
And I was like, snitches gotfucking stitches, bitch.
(15:26):
Did you punch him?
No.
Of course I didn't punch him.
You should have.
But my oldest brother was gonnasnitch on me and I was like,
don't tell mom, talk to mom.
Don't tell mom.
Yeah.
Anyway, that was my first pride.
Oh my God.
And.
Then they got increasingly moreinsane from there.
Yeah.
'cause my first pride was Berlinand then my pride's fourth.
(15:46):
Did we go to 2000?
Well, hang on.
We met in 2017 and we leftbefore.
Yeah, we left before the nextone.
Oh, crazy.
Yeah.
So that was our first pride.
Well, my first pride, that wasthe first pride.
Well, we weren't even togetherthen.
Ah, well, the funny thing isthat pride, that same pride that
you went to, you were dancing onthe streets and stuff.
Yeah.
And my best friend from the UKwas visiting me.
(16:07):
Yeah.
We went out after like, we werelike, I think we went to Sissy
Fossil or one of the fuckingparties, sissy Fas, and then
like bar hopped a bit orwhatever.
And then I think it was so, sofucking late and my friend had
gone home by herself and she gotlost and then I had to go let
her in.
But I was like speaking to someguy on Grindr and I was like,
I'm just gonna go.
I am just gonna go.
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You gonna go?
And I did.
I put her into bed and then Iwas like, bye.
And then I went and he, this guylived down the street and I went
to his house.
Nice.
And then it was kind of weirdactually.
What was his name?
Julian.
Julian.
Julian.
Oh, Yu.
Uh, he was, he's not listeningunless he is listening.
He, he's your number one fan.
Actually.
Could you imagine?
He was a, his voice.
(16:50):
He was a voice actor.
Mm.
He was a voice actor.
Like how was his voice in, interms of dubbing, dubbing voice,
voices on like TV shows andshit?
Did he have a nice voice?
Very German voice.
Oh yeah, I know.
Well, the thing about Grindr isyou don't get to hear the
fucking voice before you goover.
That should be a feature I knowof any dating app.
(17:12):
Well, you can like face likeFaceTime them on the app.
No, that's weird.
You should have.
Any dating app, there should bea mandatory requirement that you
say a sentence.
Ooh, hinge does that, isn't it?
Like, I feel like I see them on,um, on TikTok all the time.
People like screen record,people's like hinge.
Oh yeah.
It gives you like a prompt andthen you have to like, speak
something.
Well, you know, like wheneveryou get a new phone and you have
to set up Alexa and it asks youlike, say like, Hey, or no,
(17:34):
sorry, not Alexa.
Sorry, Siri.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it says like, Siri, what'sthe weather?
You should have to do that It'sfive different sentences and
it's a prompt that you have todo.
Yeah, that's true because I.
you have to have a good voice.
Sorry.
Well, here we are here, both ofus with really good voices.
Those excellent voices.
Voices for podcasting.
Tsunami, boo, deam, homosexual.
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Okay, great.
Love that for us.
And then, and then a week later,and then, and then a week later,
we met, just like that, and justlike that, a week later.
We met again off, off of Grindr.
Yeah, because you were sayingyou wanted to have a slut summer
and then I came along and said,oh, I really did.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no.
I'm going to nail you.
Nail you down.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Whoa.
(18:21):
Pin you down.
No, um, you can't pin me down.
Put a ring on it.
Let's say that that's better.
Yeah.
But you didn't really do that,did you?
No, but I generally did.
Like I have him wearing a ring.
But you didn't put the ringreally on me.
And also you didn't propose tome.
Yeah, you didn't propose to me.
Why is the assumption that Iwould propose to you?
Why the fuck would I do that?
(18:43):
Why the assumption?
What the fuck?
What would you think would, whywould you assume, why the fuck
would you think?
I, I would ask a man.
Why would you assume that youput the gender roles into here?
You said, let me stereotype thatI should be the one What you're
saying, that I should be the oneto propose to you.
Why would I have done that?
Why would I not, why would Ihave fucking married now?
So it doesn't matter.
Doesn't it fucking out?
But it's, I want to know thefuck up.
(19:04):
Shut the.
Fuck.
Fuck.
Because you could have easilyproposed to me, but you didn't.
Ew.
Why would I do that?
Why would I ask a man anything?
Why would I have asked a mananything?
Anyway, And then we went toToronto Pride the next year.
No, we didn't.
Yes, we did.
We did.
Go to Toronto Pride.
The Toronto Pride.
Toronto Pride.
Anyway, we don't need to talkabout every single fucking pride
we've been to.
Well, I was giving a generalgist of everything that we've
done.
that.
That was the weird pride.
'cause again, my friend who cameto visit me in Berlin came to
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visit me in our first Torontoapartment.
Love you girl.
Love you.
She's not listening.
Don't worry.
Okay, great.
She's not listening so we canshit on her.
She doesn't have social media,so she came to visit.
Love.
Great.
Amazing.
Don't, don't shit come visit.
Don't, I'm not shit, I'm notshitting.
But when you come to visit forpride, don't go to the store and
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buy cowboy boots.
Oh, she bought cowboy.
She like drifted cowboy bootsand then she like needed to go
home early'cause she was like,her feet were on fire because
they were not broken inproperly.
Sister love you.
And she wore them to pride.
Was she wore to pride?
Bad idea.
Oh, she just texted me thismorning actually.
That was also, that was a finepride.
I didn't know what, because wedidn't know what was going on
really.
Toronto Pride was our first timethat we got a collaboration for
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Pride.
That was the second year.
Well, not, not, notcollaboration for pride, but
like we got in the pride forParade.
Guys, listen, the year is 20.
The guys, guys listen.
The year is 2019.
We are hired by Lyft, theRideshare App.
Popular Rideshare app, Lyft, tobe on their float with a bunch
of other influencers andBrooklyn Heights and.
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Well, it was hot as fuck.
It's like end, it's the lastweekend of June in Toronto.
June.
Yeah.
So it's hot as balls and we hadto be there super, super, super
fucking early and I knew thatthey wouldn't have like alcohol
on the flow.
So I like packed like.
little flask of tequila and putit in my pussy.
That's a great idea.
(20:53):
And then I kept giving it toBrooklyn Heights and she was
like, I love warm tequila.
Thank you so much.
It was so, it was boiling.
Yeah.
No, it wasn't just hot.
It wasn't just warm, it wasboiling tequila.
I also te like so ti stimulate,stimulate overlayed.
I what?
Oh my God.
Oh my god.
Stimuli overlayed.
That's enough guys.
I'm just gonna go, I'm justgonna turn this, this is, this
is the end of the show.
(21:14):
Sorry you so much.
I'm just gonna go, I'm justgonna go have a nap.
Okay.
Bye.
Stimuli overlayed is thecraziest thing that anyone's
ever said.
Ti I just wanna like break thatdown.
Stimuli overlayed.
Just fucking con still.
Oh my God.
Do you remember that woman whowas on the, the news broadcaster
who was like, she had a heavyrotation.
(21:36):
It's very hav heavy rotation,but she had a stroke.
I think I just had a stroke.
You might have, she had like amini stroke she'd.
Like, are you still functioning?
Stimulate overlayed.
That was crazy.
Overstimulated.
Overly stimulated.
Yes.
Stimulate overlayed.
Crazy work.
I'm gonna say that from now on.
(21:58):
Stimulate overlayed.
I said the first word and I waslike, that's not right, but I'm
gonna say, I'm just gonna sayit.
So guys, right now, I'm almostoverly stimulated.
No stimulate over related.
Just sounds so much better.
Stimulate over related.
That sounds so good.
Like it feels really right tosay.
That was crazy.
Guys, we have fun here on thepodcast.
(22:19):
Let's dig in.
Thanks for coming to dinner andhearing me have a mental
breakdown every week.
You were overstimulated.
You were overstimulated.
We left the fucking.
Float after waving at people forlike hours and hours.
The thing with being on a pr,the thing with being on a pride
parade, stop sniffling.
Oh my God.
The thing with being on a prideflow is that standing there
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dancing and waving at people formultiple, multiple hours, sorry,
it's not fun.
It's not that fun.
Unless you're gonna cut me a fatcheck.
I'm not.
I'm not doing, it's worse if youhave to walk the entire way.
Oh, I would never.
Are you fucking kidding?
Because then sometimes the, thefloats stop.
Right?
They stop for like a period oftime.
So you're just stood there.
No, I do what in the baking sun?
I just like wave at people.
(23:01):
Yeah.
Which is like do your littleroutine.
I don't know.
Like, I'm sorry.
No, I'm not doing that for thebank.
Banks have pride.
Yeah.
Go.
Yeah.
Lift up.
Lift up.
Yeah.
Lift ride, share.
Live, ride shares.
I love them when they do thingsfor the community, not just like
be at the, for sure.
I mean, they do.
Some of them do.
Yeah.
Some of'em don't anymore.
Anyway, we got paid and we gotlike, and we drank warm tequila
(23:23):
and I think we got like Lyftcredits for the summer, I think.
So it was like, it was a good,it was a good deal.
That's pretty good.
That's pretty, actually, that'sa pretty good deal.
Let me, let me say yes to that.
And this was before Brooklyn waslike big from drag race and
everything.
This was before she did US DragRace.
She was just a local, she was alocal queen.
She wasn't, huh?
She wasn't.
Huh?
No, she wasn't, wasn't she?
Because we got our dog at thebeginning of 2019.
(23:44):
She was on Drag Race that year.
Oh, we got our dog at thebeginning of 2019 when Drag Race
was airing.
That's why we named our dogEvie, because she was a ganglia
weirdo.
Correct.
After Evie Hudley.
Ah.
So, and they were on the sameand I was listening.
Oh my God.
Really crazy.
I was listening to, sorry, notsorry.
By Demi Lovato on the DriveHome.
'cause it was just on myplaylist and in my mind.
(24:06):
Yeah.
That song is sung by BrooklynHeights.
A hundred percent.
Like it's not sung by anybody.
It's not sung by Put Lovato.
I, it's just like, I can't hearthat song without hearing the
screams of the judges behind.
Yeah, I know.
Behind the song too good.
Anyway, What the fuck was Isaying?
Anyway, I wasim overlay and thenwe had to like, so good go and
(24:27):
meet our friends after and likego for like drinks and go to
like the green space and thenlike go party.
And I was like, I don't want to,I'm too tired now.
Yeah.
It was so much and then it was,and then we did so much more.
It was so much, it's so hardbeing gay.
It really is.
It's like really difficult.
It really is.
And then.
When you go to multiple pridesin a year, which we did last
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year, we did in 2022, we did sixprides in 2022.
Sometimes list them.
Sometimes I just, it's what do Ihave to be proud of?
At the end of the day, this is aquestion you have to ask
yourself every day.
You six one and you're like, amI really that proud?
You have to ask yourself, whatare, what are we, what do we
have to be proud about 2022, weleft Canada and we, we were in
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the process of getting my greencard, so we had to stay in
Europe for like five months.
Yeah.
We had nothing about her to do.
June, July, August, September,October.
It was like four months.
We had nothing to do.
So, so we went to, first we wentto Paris Pride.
Yeah.
Then we went to London Pride.
Yeah.
Then we went to Madrid Pride.
Madrid Pride by accident.
'cause we didn't know it wasgonna be Madrid Pride.
(25:31):
'cause we had tickets for thatfestival.
Mm-hmm.
All things go No, no.
Uh, permis.
Mad Cool, mad Cool Festival.
What a random name.
We saw Florence in the machine.
Now we did see Florence.
I was like, I was like.
Spitting distance.
She could spit in my mouth.
That's how far away she was.
I would prefer if she did.
Yeah.
Didn't or did?
Did.
Oh good.
Of course.
I was like, okay, come on, comeon.
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Madrid by mistake.
Yeah, it was so fun.
I.
Berlin.
Berlin.
Oh yeah.
We went back to Berlin.
So we celebrated our fifth yearanniversary of meeting in Berlin
during Berlin Pride.
We went to Berlin Pride.
Yeah, and then fuck Me.
Can I remember Brighton?
Brighton Pride.
Brighton right after which I wasthe best one.
Really?
Fun was the best one.
Really fun.
Brighton Pride was the best one.
Not best, but like fun.
Brighton Pride was the best one.
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Madrid Pride we didn't really domuch for.
We didn't because we were at thefestival.
I just know it was better forfor sure.
But Bright and Pride was fun'cause all of our friends were
there.
I love Paris Pride too.
Who's Paris?
The vibes were fun.
I can't remember.
Oh yeah, the vibes were fun.
The vibes were fun.
Yeah.
Vibes were fun.
Yeah.
(26:34):
The vibes were fine.
I just remembered.
I remembered.
Yeah, I, the vibes were fine.
Okay.
Bright and Pride was the best itturns out.
And then we went to Malta forPride, and then by that point I
was like, you know what?
I've had enough girl.
No.
We got into Malta for the lastpride, and we got into our
apartment.
And I think we were, the was sonice.
The apartment was so nice.
(26:54):
The apartment was great.
It was really big.
It was really nice.
But we been traveling for likethree months, four months by By
this point.
Yeah.
And we were supposed to go to aparty that night.
Bear in mind we left Toronto atthe beginning of June.
Yeah.
And then now this is the middleof September.
Yeah.
And we're in Malta.
Yeah.
Uh, and I was like, what thefuck am I doing in Baltimore?
There was a party that night,there's Pride Party that night,
and I was like.
Do you just wanna like get someIndian Yeah, I was like we auto
(27:17):
an India or an Indian?
Indian and just like watch tv.
Yeah.
Like heavy British population.
So you knew the Indian food wasgonna be like pretty good.
And it was great.
It was great.
And we didn't do anything forthat pride.
We, I didn't, I didn't see asingle gay flag.
No, we didn't go out.
I saw many gay fag, we stayed.
Oh, okay.
(27:37):
I'm gonna have to Google AshChat.
GPT, if you can use the word,the F word, I can censor or
whatever the F word on the,don't censor me.
Actually do not censor me.
This is an uncensored podcast.
Exactly.
It's also explicit.
So explicit, explicit mean, likecurse words or like You can, you
can explicit and I'm a gay man,so it's okay.
Well you've been saying pussy amillion times.
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and then, then we, and then wemoved here and then the year
after that we went to SanFrancisco Pride, which is our
first San Francisco pride.
And then we met all of our bestfriends and then, and then I
died and everything was perfect.
I cannot think about SanFrancisco Pride last year
because I was, I don't wannatalk about it.
Not, well, that's not, I don'twanna talk about it.
Unwell.
So we also say that like, youknow, pride is like, you know,
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we're, what are we doing?
Like what are we, what are wedoing?
We're like fundraising, we'relike trying to raise awareness.
We're also like, it's soimportant for like smaller
communities to have prideevents.
Especially like this year withthe like mass, DEI, um, yeah.
Rollbacks.
Yeah.
All of these smaller towns arehaving all of their like funding
(28:40):
cut for Yeah.
Pride events.
Yeah.
And what do they do?
Yeah.
Like some of these events arelike salvation for so many
people that live in these likesmaller towns, like a, in the
middle of nowhere.
Yeah.
And it's a, it's the only waythat they can like, have
community and like mm-hmm.
Be around people and actuallyget to know.
The community at large, um, andjust also like, feel like
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they're free and it's how I feelabout Queer Eye, like right
Queer Eye is like great for likestraight people and like baby
Gaze and like people who likeneed to see themselves
represented and like.
All that jazz, but for me, inthe stage of life I'm at, it's
so corporate and it just feelslike nonsensical.
(29:24):
Especially in a major city.
Yes.
Because like what do we do atPride?
Like what do we do and what doesthe general gay male population
mm-hmm.
Party and some lesbians Yeah.
Do for Pride Party and everyoneelse in the.
Party go to parties.
Oh, okay.
I was like, am I right?
(29:45):
We go to parties.
Yeah.
We go to this day party on theSaturday, and then we go to that
day party on the Sunday.
Yeah.
And then we go to this party andthen that party.
I think there are differentpurposes for pride because I
think the, the partying forpride, it might seem trivial,
but it is a part of that strongpart of the celebration, like so
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celebrating and being free andbeing able to just like.
Go make out with people or justlike have drinks with your
friends or just like have fun.
That's a key part of pride.
Like a key part of pride is justhaving fun and dancing.
Oh, isn't that that book?
Yeah.
Gay bar.
Why We Went out?
Yeah, just like being out anddancing and having a fun time.
That is just as important asprotests and raising awareness
(30:27):
and all of that.
I agree.
I agree.
I do think like people havedifferent purposes for pride.
Like my purpose right now isn'tfor self identity.
And like going and out andseeing rainbows and seeing and
seeing representation.
'cause like I'm I personally me,I'm good for that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What it all is, what otherpurposes are raising awareness
and helping other people whomight not be as fortunate as I
(30:48):
am or in the same place.
Yeah.
And another purpose is havingfun and just like letting loose
and dancing.
Totally.
Because pride is joy andcommunity.
Yeah.
It's just mostly community.
It's like that's what I loveabout Pride now.
Yeah.
Is just being able to spend timewith like all of my.
Queer friends.
Exactly.
Just like all these gay peoplethat I all of a sudden know and
that's a beautiful, we moved toSan Francisco, like before we
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moved to San Francisco, wedidn't really have that many gay
friends.
Mm-hmm.
Toronto, we had like a handfulof close friends.
Mm-hmm.
Pandemic.
The pandemic really squashed ourability to make friends.
Mm-hmm.
Throughout most of that time.
But we moved to San Franciscoand then all of a sudden we've
been here for two and a halfyears and I know like.
Everybody.
Yeah.
I feel like I know so manypeople now.
Yeah.
That's a beautiful thing.
Yeah, it's great.
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That's why I love, I love,sometimes it's not a beautiful
thing'cause I hate a lot ofpeople, but I mean, we can talk
about that.
No, no, no.
Um, I What's have to be proud ofto hate?
Well, that is an important pointthat I wanted to bring up.
That's a little bit, animportant point.
An important point.
Because generally as influenzas,as the Spanish influenzas.
(31:51):
Yeah.
Um, as influencers, a lot of ourpro, a lot of our general income
in the past has been centeredaround two main periods of the
year, Christmas in the holidays,and pride, two main points of
the years where we get a lot ofour campaigns and have in mo for
like most of our careers asinfluencers.
Yeah, in the past couple ofyears, there has been a shift,
(32:13):
huge shift, big shift that wefelt in our careers and that you
can visibly see in marketingcampaigns and in corporate, the
corporate world.
And just like looking out intothe world, like corporations as
a whole are shifting away frompride, And the, the pride
activation and like the pridebudget that they've had, like it
is shifting away because we dostill get pride campaigns, but
(32:35):
not to the same level that wehave in the past.
Yeah.
No.
Well, you can really tell, youcan tell that brands are like
less pride, pride focused.
Yeah.
And that has something to dowith our also, they're not even
less pride focused.
Like, it, it was a API month.
I didn't see a single.
Yeah.
Other Asian creator do anythingpro A API related.
Yeah.
And it was Black History Month.
I didn't see a single, likethese brands, especially like
(32:58):
beauty brands like these, thesetimes of the year, it's their
like moment to kind of likespotlight a lot of creators who
are part of this community.
Yeah.
And build up and like make theircommunity.
Yeah.
And no one's been doing itrecently and it's not because
of.
Because you might be sayinglike, oh, brands are just like
not spending as much influ moneyon influencers.
(33:19):
No brands are spending likethis.
It's continuously growing everysingle year.
How much brands are spending oninfluencers, they're just not
putting it on these specificmonths and seasons dedicated to
diversity.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and that's very telling ofjust like this year, especially
with like the Trump and the DEIand everything.
And it just like, I thinkthere's a lot of pressure on
these corporations to, I thinkthere's two things.
(33:40):
There's, there's pressure on thecorporations to, um, not.
Support, pride in all theseinitiatives from the right wing.
And there's not as much pressurefrom the left wing for them to
do it because I think we're alldone with the corporations.
Like we're all like, why do wecare if corporations support
pride and do all theseinitiatives?
we see support, like the supportis good from someplace like
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Abercrombie.
They always donate a certainamount to Trevor Project.
Amazing.
Yeah.
But generally it does.
It is performative for themajority of brands.
But then like, where's the line?
Where can you say like, oh, youare a brand and you are
supporting Pride.
You have a Pride collection,you're gonna be donating X
amount of money from thatcollection to like the Trevor
Project per se.
Yeah.
And then where's the line andwhere do you draw the line?
(34:21):
By being like, actually, I don'tthink that this is like this.
This feels like you're kind ofdoing this to just like.
Be part of like a trend that'shappening right now or like you
want to like seem like you'redoing more than you actually are
because this is the case with alot of brands.
'cause you have like, I don'tknow, big telecommunications
companies that are owned byhumongous Republicans.
(34:44):
Mm-hmm.
And they have donated andcontinue to donate so much money
to the Trump campaign andmm-hmm.
Republican party overall.
And then they'll have this likepride campaign and I'm like,
that's disingenuous becausethat's why you have to like.
We have to use our brains.
Yeah.
Crazy.
Let's put on our thinking capsand look over, like look at, uh,
look at these brands as a wholeand like what they do their
(35:05):
entire years, which we don't.
Yeah.
'cause we forget about like,everyone forgets about pride as
soon as June's over and it'sjust a thing.
But like, what are you doingthroughout the year and do you
just come to June and say, puton a rainbow on your logo and
say like, cool.
Done?
Or do you.
Do a massive donation in I, Ithink it's more important for
these brands to do a massivedonation like I think
Abercrombie does, like 250,000to the Trevor Project or
(35:26):
something.
Some massive number like thatevery year, no matter what the
sales are from their pridecollection.
Yeah, that's good.
We did a Abercrombie campaignlike two years ago.
Yeah, it's time.
Two years ago we were like onthe storefronts of like
abercrombie's across NorthAmerica and Europe.
It was kind of crazy.
Yeah.
And.
They donated like an X amountregardless of sales.
They donated an X amount ofmoney to the Trevor Project.
(35:47):
Yeah.
they also, for this pridecampaign, they only hired queer
creatives, a queer photographer,a queer, um, art makeup, makeup
artist, I think Word.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Gay.
Um, the marketing, the marketingdirector.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Gay.
Um, various people in theL-G-B-T-C-Q community were like
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part of the campaign.
Um, that is not performativebecause you see Abercrombie
working throughout the year onthese sorts of things.
Yeah, just as an example.
Um, I think milk makeup alsodoes, I, we just, and House
Labs.
Yeah.
They do great things, things allthe time.
House right now, house Labsthrough the month of June, house
Labs is donating$1 of everySephora sale to.
to the Born, born This WayFoundation.
(36:30):
Is that a foundation?
Yeah.
Born This Way.
Foundation?
Yeah.
$1 from every house Lab's sale.
That's amazing.
'cause sometimes it's like, oh,we're gonna donate 5 cents.
We're gonna donate a nickelevery single time someone's
bought, someone buys ours.
Here's a spit.
Yeah.
Here's a piece.
Here's my spit.
Here's a as a donation.
Yeah.
But that's pretty good though.
I mean like house lab sales arefor like fucking crazy and the
(36:51):
products are incredible.
Yeah, exactly.
So like, like put your moneywhere your mouth is.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
Do it that, that I don't care.
That I think because you also,like, you can see, like, you
know, you've, you've experiencedthe target.
The target ification.
Mm.
The target ification of like,Performative activism.
Have you seen their pridecollection?
Do they have one?
Yes.
I'm surprised.
It is the funniest shit.
I'm surprised.
(37:11):
Have you seen Levi's PrideCollection?
I Levi's is always kind of cute.
It's like wearable.
It depends.
It's not too like that one yearit wasn't.
Oh my God.
There was one year.
Okay, sorry.
Levi's do love you.
What year was this?
It was when we were in Torontoand they, they wanted us to do
the campaign and I was like, I'mnot wearing that.
Sorry.
2020?
Yeah.
Two.
They had like a one a, a denimjacket and on the back of it it
said he, him, she, her, they,them.
(37:35):
We crazy.
That's crazy.
Is Sorry.
It was sorry.
So we, we I get what they I getit.
Get it.
I get it.
I get it.
I understand.
I get it.
It was in the love, the idea.
It was in the love, theenthusiasm.
Hate the execution.
Hate it, hate it.
He, she, oh no, he, he, she, he,she did.
(37:57):
And we blew hair barista.
I'm like, you just took pronounsas a trend and just put it onto
a.
Levi's, vegan, vegetarian,non-binary.
Gimme one.
Exactly.
Um, pride's target's pridecollection is just so funny
'cause they have these dragqueen birds.
What, what they just, birds Likewhat?
(38:20):
They have birds that are dressedup in pride collection birds.
And it's just these birds thatare dressed up.
Bird figurines celebrate pride.
It doesn't make sense.
What?
What are these Pride, feathery,friend collectible, bird
figurines.
What does this have to do withpride?
What do you just say?
What does that have to do withpride?
Tell me, I'm, I'm stimulateoverlayed.
(38:42):
Wait, tell me, is thiscollection?
Yes.
It's part of the pridecollection.
They're birds dressed as as, asMaria Antoinette.
What?
Why is the bird and the MariaAntoinette closed?
What the fuck?
Let them eat bird seed.
What?
You are joking.
I'm not joking, joking.
Is that what it's called?
Let them eat Bird seed.
No, that was just something Imade up.
That's funny.
I know.
That's so funny.
Thank you.
I'm funny God, let them eat birdseed.
(39:05):
That's crazy.
Wait, this is the stupidestthing I've ever seen.
This is their pride collection.
It's part of the Pridecollection clothes.
It's not wearables.
There are wearables, but that'spart, that's one of the, no,
it's not just birds.
The but the birds are a key partof their pride collection.
What the fuck?
I don't know why this is crazy,because what does, what do birds
have to do with pride or target?
This is, this is a recession indecay for sure.
(39:26):
Shake that back because who'sbuying this?
Someone?
It's got 24 reviews.
Wait, what are the reviews onthe Marie Antoinette bird?
It's so crazy.
Wait, what is it?
What is it?
What is it?
What?
What is Wait, wait, wait, wait,wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait.
this review, it's entitled,honey, please.
Two stars.
The library is open and thisqueen is not ready to fly.
(39:48):
The Coop Dolla Storm overAntoinette five and dime Dolly
Parton.
No clue.
But this queen is not so muchready for pride as she is ready
for a redo.
Who the fuck?
And the next one is, that'sfunny.
Funny.
Yes.
Love queen would adore moreroyalty ones.
They love the birds.
(40:09):
Who the fuck is buying this birdEnough?
Also boycott Fucking target.
You fucking losers, rightfreaks.
This is what I was gonna sayabout Target.
Target had their pridecollection last year and they
like removed.
Yeah.
Some items from it.
They had binders, they had likebinder swimsuits or something,
but like they, they took away alot of it because there was a
lot of.
Like I think the right wingbacklash has always been there.
(40:31):
Obviously also the fuckingpussies.
Target stand on business.
Target is pussies.
Target has, target has neverstood on business.
This is a target hate podcast.
Tea Target has never stood onbusiness because as soon as they
get like one piece of backlashfrom any of their conservative,
they used to conservative butfucks they fucking crumble.
Like a crumble.
Cookies aren't even crumbly, sothey crumble.
(40:51):
Like what the fucking crumbles.
Oh, like a Nature Valley bar?
Mm-hmm.
They crumble like a naturefucking valley bar.
There you go.
And then all of a sudden.
They fucking fold and theyremove all that shit and they're
like, oh, sorry.
Oh, you don't like this pridecollection?
We'll remove it.
Sorry.
Don't worry.
Oh, you don't like this DEIinitiative?
Well, don't worry, we're notdoing that anymore.
Yeah.
Fuck you.
Target you fucking clowns.
He They are fucking losers andwe don't support them.
(41:12):
Bike, uh, on the topic ofboycotting, yeah, Taylor Swift
recently just released, I mean,she bought out her entire.
Old discography.
Yeah.
Is that right?
I saw TikTok.
I haven't, I haven't kept upwith that bitch.
Sorry, TikTok.
I don't give a fuck.
Really?
Um, people have been now excitedto listen to her old, like non
Telas version albums.
Correct.
Because she has, now she ownsthem all again.
(41:35):
Sure.
So she rebought, she bought herold collection.
Sure.
She did an Instagram post beinglike, there's a fucking lyric in
one of her songs.
Something about me.
I don't know.
You brought this up.
I don't fucking know.
Anyway.
And then everyone's coming andpeople are like, oh my God,
thank God I've been, I haven'tlistened to this song in like
six years because it's, I mean,it's my favorite song in the
whole world.
Like, oh my God, I love thissong so much.
(41:56):
So the girlies do know how toboycott, but they don't, they
still go to Starbucks and theystill go to Target and they
still eat a fucking McDonald's.
And there is the tea, which areall trash establishments.
I have to say, fucking hell.
Anyway.
Teas.
That's my rant for the day.
Wow.
I'm angry.
You just stood up.
I'm, you just stood up onbusiness.
I'm Stu no one else is gonna,no.
(42:18):
But we gotta, and that's what wedo here.
At least again here, I'm here Iam.
This pride month, standing onthese bitches necks.
Happy pride.
Stand down.
Bitches.
Necks.
Exactly.
Put that on a fucking T-shirtand sell it.
I, and I'll buy it and I'lldonate the money.
Would you buy it?
And I'll donate the money.
Let's merch.
Happy Pride Month.
Stand on Bitch's Neck.
(42:39):
That's great.
I love that copywriting.
It.
Oh my god.
Stand on bitches.
Next they fucking, yeah.
That's so good.
That was really good.
Oh my God.
Okay.
I just feel like there's nowhereelse we can go other than away,
down, back to hell where webelong.
Yeah.
No, no.
There's like, there's no,there's no like peaking from
this moment of the episode, so Ithink that should just be like,
(43:00):
do you know when the, the dinnerparty's like been so fun and
you're like, okay, yeah.
Now you have to go.
Yeah.
It's just like this conversationis getting old.
Yeah.
Bye.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, imagine we just ended thatepisode.
Just ends.
That's how we should have.
That'd be kind of funny.
Okay.
Bye.
I'm over this conversation.
I'm leaving now.
(43:20):
Then the ends, music plays.
God bless guys.
Celebrate pride.
However you feel like you wantto feel proud, be proud.
Do proud or don't.
Oh my God.
Have do you know what I hate themost?
Why we knew there should be asegment?
What do you hate the most thisweek?
Ooh.
That's great.
That's a great thing.
Ooh, that's a great segment.
That's a great segment.
(43:40):
Okay, what do you mean?
Let me keep changing oursegments.
We're like, let's end with likea fun game or like a fun like
thing that we learned this week.
This is actually, we're haters.
What do I fucking hate the mostthis week?
Okay, go.
Do you know what I hate the mostthis week?
What?
In the Castro, there is onehouse.
If this is your house, I'msorry, but fucking take it down.
There is a house and it has alittle goose.
(44:02):
LED in the window.
Yeah.
And it says, be gay, do crime.
And every time I see that,'causesometimes I have to park in
front of it.
'cause the only fucking spot inthe area that's a parking spot,
I have to see it.
And I just like, oh.
It gives me whiplash.
No.
The millennial goose needs tobe, the millennial goose needs
to fu and also do crime.
(44:23):
Shut up.
Like, what crime are you doing?
You're not doing crime.
You're not doing crime, you'renot doing crime.
You're, you're making parking inthe wrong spot.
You're not doing crime.
You maybe got a parking ticketand you said, oh, I'm a
criminal, and then cried aboutit.
No, millennials need to stop,like they need to be stopped.
As a millennial myself, you needto be stopped.
'cause who is being gay anddoing like, shut up, shut up,
(44:43):
shut up, shut up, shut up.
Who do I hate the most?
Who, um, who, who is a differentstory.
I've got many of those too.
What?
I, uh, God, I, can I say I hatethe rainbow flag?
You can say you hate the rainbowflag.
Can I say I hate the rainbowflag?
Yeah.
You can say, because I haterainbows.
I hate rainbow merch.
Let me just, mer merch is good.
Rainbow mech.
I get it.
I do ha like, no, I, Iappreciate the history of the
(45:05):
rainbow flag, whatever.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I don't like rainbow things.
I think it's ugly.
I think if you can't do it well,you can't make it look nice.
No, I have never seen what ParisHilton was wearing at the WeHo.
Pride was fine.
It was actually cute and I waslike, this is kind of nice.
She wearing, but the majority ofrainbow merch that you see at
(45:26):
prize, pick a fucking color.
It's so fucking ugly.
I've seen rainbow suits.
I've seen rainbow tshirts.
Joe, you're gonna, you have todrive T-shirt.
A lot of people who are probablygonna wear something cute.
Pride related merch.
Make it cute then.
Sorry.
Make it cute.
you're a hater.
You're a hater too.
Yeah.
I You just insulted the entiremillennial generation and the
(45:48):
goose lovers.
No, that's just that one person.
Imagine if they're like someonewho like listens to our podcast
and they're like, oh, that's myhouse.
Sorry.
If you don't wanna hear ouropinions, don't listen to our
podcast.
Yeah, well, sorry, I don't likerainbows Anyway, and that's my
tea.
Okay.
Wow.
Hate month.
Happy hate month, everyone.
(46:08):
There's no pride without hate.
You're so right.
You know?
Yeah.
We have to have something tofight back against and I'm
providing it.
If you like this podcast, pleasegive us a review on wherever you
listen.
Don't forget to follow us on allsocial media platforms.
Thumbs up, don't thumbs down.
Is that even something you cando?
(46:29):
Thumbs down, diva.
I don't know.
Diva, I'll thumbs down.
You and you'll be my most hatednext time.
Oh my God.
I'm a little sassy today.
You are a little bit sassytoday.
I don't know why.
It's the, it's the demon pride,the spirit of Satan, the pride
demon, the the spirit of BESabove.
Exactly.
(46:49):
And with that, we'll see youfucking next time or not, but
probably.
What?
Say something.
Okay, then.
Bye.
Half a PR.
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