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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up everyone?
Welcome to let's Dig thePodcast.
I am Pierre, and this is mybeautiful wife, dani Lee.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey yo.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
So happy that you
guys are here today.
I'm looking forward to today'sconversation.
You guys already know why we'rehere.
We are here to help you growdeeper relationship with God,
others and yourself.
We're actually going to talkabout yourself, just for a
little bit Yourself.
I've heard someone say everyonein this world's favorite topic
is themselves.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I want to say
everyone in this world's
favorite topic is themselves.
That's true, but I will say forthis channel I think that
self-relationship is the onewe've talked about the least.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, but I think
it's the conversation that is
like get somebody to starttalking about themselves.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
And they will go on
for days, and they will never
stop.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
You'll see introverts
just blossom Like man.
What are you Like, right?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
It's true, like I've
never seen that person talk that
much in my life.
We've asked them the rightquestion.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Start asking
questions about themselves.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
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And we're never
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Speaker 1 (00:59):
I'm very excited
right now.
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No, you're not.
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, and so I'm excited to evenjust talk about today and just
what does it look like to eventake care of yourself.
I think we live in a time whereit's interesting because some
people think taking care ofyourself could be selfish.
But sometimes we have to lookat it and say is it really being
selfish or is it taking care ofourselves?
(01:51):
I know for me.
Oh wait, are we talking rightnow?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Is this it Ready set?
Let's dig All right, let's dig.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Our son the other day
asked me he was like Dad, why
do you wake up so early?
And I said well, if you want meto be a better dad, if you want
me to be a good husband to yourmom, if I need to be a good
leader, a good mentor, all thesethings, then I need time for
myself.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
There was a season
even in our life where I did
look at that as selfish you did,because it bothered me of, like
how do you just wake up andjust go do what you need to do
and not worry about like.
But I understand now.
It's because I didn'tunderstand then what self-care
looks like and the importance ofit.
So in a season from myviewpoint it looked like you
(02:36):
were being selfish.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I like how you made
it sound like it was very long
time ago.
You used to look at that likeselfish.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Bro, that was like
last year.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
No, it was 2020 it
was two years ago it's three.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Like four years ago
it was three max.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I'm not going any
higher, we are not arguing about
this.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It was not at this
house, so it was in pasadena
maybe exactly so.
It's four years ago and, to befair, I had a newborn, so that's
why I thought you're veryselfish, of like, oh, you just
got to go up and go spend thetime anyways.
All that to say, I have grown alot, even in how I understand
self-care, how I understand howyou need it and how I need it.
(03:16):
In different ways since then,because at that point I couldn't
understand it, but that wasbecause I wasn't taking care of
myself either.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, what well, I
think you thought you were
taking care of yourself.
I did think so what do you?
What do you consider self-careLike?
What do you consider Like Ineed to take care of myself?
What does that look like to you?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I mean, at that point
when I was frustrated with you,
felt like you were beingselfish, at that point I didn't
have any terms of self-care.
I remember a few years agoprobably two years ago I was in
therapy and something that kindof like gives me a lot of
anxiety is sometimes I feel likeour life never stops because
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you have the week, that's alwaysbusy, but us, being at a church
, we're busy on the weekendsalso.
So sometimes it feels like lifenever stops.
And I remember my therapistsaying like, well, what do you
do for self-care?
And I was like I don't know.
I just I go to the gym, I do mynails, I do my hair.
And he was like, yeah, none ofthat is self-care, danny Lee.
(04:17):
And he was saying how you haveto be more perspective of your
personality and what does yourpersonality need.
So for you, gym was self-care,because you are more of an
introvert and an internal person.
And so when you go to the gymand you're all by yourself, like
in your own world, that canmean self-care for you, not that
(04:39):
I'm saying that's the only way,but it can work for you.
I'm an extrovert, so when youput me in the gym with my
headphones on.
That doesn't feel feel my cup.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
It's like work, it's
a discipline.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
It's a yeah, it's
something that I have to be
consistent with to take care ofmy body.
And so that's kind of what hewas saying of, like, I don't,
none of the things that you'vejust listed are self-care, but
the world tells us that like, ohgirl, get your nails done, get
your hair done, let's self-care.
But actually that's actuallyjust taking care of your body,
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that's just maintenance.
It's not something that fillsyour tank and is actually
self-care to like give yourselfthat peace or like to take care
of yourself in a different way.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I I kind of want to
argue that why, because I I just
don't think it's a one sizefits all.
So, for example, using the gym,perfect example, like something
that is maintenance for someoneelse is self-care for someone
else.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, so what are you
arguing?
Because I just said that.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Meaning like taking
care of your nails can be
self-care, not maintenance.
Sure Right, I think there's.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
But I literally just
said that for the gym it can be
self-care for you, but for meit's not, because it's it's a
discipline, it's something Ihave to do.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Right, and I just
think, throughout the years of
us being together, there's timeswhere certain things were going
back and forth from the leftside to the right side.
It was fluctuating back andforth.
That's what I'm saying,Depending on where you were in
your life.
There was one time it couldhave been like I'm being selfish
, like whatever.
This is me, me, me, me, me.
I'm going to sneak out, go getthis thing done Right.
(06:12):
Other times we're like or wetalked about this before like
people hiding money to go takecare of themselves, or is that?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
taking care of people
to know that you had the money.
Not that we've done that, butwe know people that have done
that.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
We know people that
have done that Right.
So I think, ultimately, I feellike so many times we get caught
up in trying to mimic whatsomeone else is doing.
So I know there's a lot of guysthat look up to me that always
ask me for my what, what does myday look like, Like my schedule
when I wake up?
And so there's some people thattry to mimic that and I'm like
(06:46):
yo, I'm not telling you to wakeup at 5 am in the morning.
I'm waking up at 5 am in themorning because my kids got to
be up at 6.30 and I'm anintrovert and I need to take
care of myself before I spaz outon these kids, and so if they,
they want a dad to be like goodmorning child, Good morning my
children.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
That's so creepy.
How did you sleep last night?
Stop doing that, oh comesnuggle daddy.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
The only way I'm
going to be that way is if I
need a good, solid two hours tomyself, by yourself.
By myself.
So I think some people try tojust copy and paste other
people's lives just because theywant to mimic.
They want the same fruit and Ijust think you can take a tree
(07:30):
and plant it in different States, different type of ground, and
it will not produce the samefruit.
I think people really need tostop and really process.
What does it look like to takecare of myself?
Also, what does it look likeI'm only taking care of myself?
Screw everybody Right, causeit's different?
I've been in those seasonswhere I was very selfish selfish
meaning like I actually tookcare of myself for me.
I think that's selfish versus.
(07:53):
I take care of myself because ofmy contribution to society, to
others, for the benefit of mychildren, my wife, my peers, the
people that I lead, and that'swhy I take care of myself.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I think that's a very
good definition.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, that's what I
think.
I think the difference from thetwo is, if you're selfish, it
means you take care of yourselfjust for you.
All you're doing is thinkingabout yourself.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So what do you do to
take care of yourself, besides
wake up at 5 am?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I don't do nothing.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
What oh?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
my word.
Wait, what's the question?
I'm sorry, I got a lollipop inmy pocket.
Actually I'm about to take careof myself.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
It's a lollipop day.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I'm about to take
care.
I got a little dum-dum righthere, y'all, oh my gosh.
Okay, what do you do forself-care?
What can?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
you do for self-care.
Besides, you already told usyou wake up at 5 am.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Bro, you better not
be sucking on the thing on the
mic, allegedly Because if peoplehear all your slipping sounds
like they'll be turning off sofast.
So, all right, I'm going tomake a.
I think I'm going to go aheadand make a confession right now.
So when people ask me, whattime do I wake up?
I trick them by saying well, my, my alarm goes off at 5 am.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It doesn't mean what
time you wake up, but I don't
wake up at 5.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
You're such a fool,
my alarm goes off at 5.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You get up at 5.45?
.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
No, I get up like
5.15.
I know I get up like 5.15.
Like I have like two alarms.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Okay, but you're not
answering the question.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I'm sorry, I was just
this dumb.
Dumb is just hitting hard rightnow, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
All right, I'm going
to ask it for a third time.
I feel like I'm talking toJordan.
I'm going to say it one moretime and I'm not going to repeat
myself.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yes, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
What do you do for
self-care?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, honestly for
self-care.
I get closer to God.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Some people might
think I'm being super spiritual,
but I'm not, because at the endof the day, we are spirit
beings.
Like when this life on thisearth is over, like our soul,
our spirit still lives on.
Yeah, and I think so many timespeople focus so hard on taking
care of their bodies.
Yes, I go to the gym.
Yes, I watch what I eat.
Yes, I ride a bike and I go onwalks, those type of things Like
(10:06):
, yes, I do all that becausethis is the temple of the living
God and God's spirit lives inme.
Our body is the only thing onthis earth that can contain the
spirit of God.
God came on this earth, mademan, but the man came alive when
he breathed.
God breathed breath into himand boom, boom, that's us.
And so our temple, our body, isvery important.
(10:29):
Right, I think there's so manypeople out there like they eat
like crap, eat like crap and say, oh God, help me, cause
sickness.
There was someone I saw gettingprayed for the other day and
basically something washappening to like their blood
pressure, like a lot ofdifferent things like that.
But I looked at the person andthey probably could have been
maybe 80, 90 pounds overweightand I'm like I don't.
I mean we could pray for you,but I have.
(10:50):
I have a better tip betteradvice Stop eating at night,
right, watch what you.
There's so many different thingslike that, but what I'm saying
is for me to take care of myself.
It's the mornings that I get upand I just sit with God, I
renew my mind, I get my spiritstrengthened, I read the word of
God Even when I go, like, tothe gym.
(11:11):
And there's some mornings whereI wake up really late and I
have to go to the gym.
Right, so I get up and gostraight to the gym.
Right, if I'm going straightlike to the gym, I'm still
putting on the Bible app.
Right, because I know that myspirit needs to be fed.
Yeah, I'm in, I'm not listeningto garbage, I'm watching what
I'm feeding myself, because bythe time I get home by seven 30,
my goal is to be a loving dadand a loving husband.
(11:34):
Could you guys imagine?
I went off for an hour or two,came back from the gym and I'm
still mad, upset, frustrated,like irritable, like it's like
where'd you go?
What happened?
Right, and so for me, like oneof the number one things that I
do to really take care of myselfis literally to take care of my
spirit.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
That's good.
I heard a speaker say the otherday that your mental health is
directly a reflection of yourspiritual health.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And I thought that
was so true because there are
times where I was in therapy andI was going through therapy and
I was in a really hard season,yeah, and I mean we talked about
it earlier when I was talkingto that therapist and I know
that my mental health was not ata good place.
I felt like I needed self-carebut I wasn't finding it Right
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and I was having some anxietyand I was at.
It wasn't that I wasn't walkingwith the Lord, I was just in a
wrestling match with him.
To be honest, I was wrestlingwith him.
I was just in a wrestling matchwith him.
To be honest, I was wrestlingwith him.
I was struggling with where theseason was that I was in and I
was unhappy and so, knowing thatmy spiritual health was not
good and I'm not talking aboutlike for believers, it's not
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that we walk away from the Lord,it's not that we backslid or we
, you know, took a left and weforgot who we were.
No, you just go through dryseasons, you go through a desert
, you go through a wilderness,and I was wrestling with God, I
was frustrated and my mentalhealth was lacking because my
spiritual health was struggling.
And so it you're right.
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It is one of the core thingsthat we need to do when we feel
like our mental health is notgood, as check our spiritual
health.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, that's so big.
It makes me just really thinkabout why do we say let's dig?
Right, I think all of us havebeen given seeds.
We've been given things in ourlives, whether it's our mind,
it's our children, whether it'sresources, business, ideas,
creativity and it's up to us todetermine where do we want to
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plant our seeds.
I think about all day long.
If everyone is given 24 hoursin the day, what makes a
difference from someone who'ssuccessful, someone who's
unsuccessful, the differencefrom someone who has joy and
someone who is unhappy, whodoesn't have joy right or
doesn't feel happy.
I think about that.
I think about okay, we all weregiven 24 seeds every single day
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.
Where do you want to plantthose seeds?
I think so many people aredigging holes and throughout
their lives and they're plantingtheir seeds.
Basically, they're puttingtheir time, their time, their
resources, their assets all inbad ground and bad ground, and
that's why we say let's dig.
The goal is to be able to digthose roots up and really
determine where do we want toplant.
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Jesus said it the greatestcommandment is to love the Lord,
your God, with all your heart,your soul and your mind.
That's why we say let's dig.
And then he said the secondgreatest thing is to love your
neighbor right here as yourself.
You cannot love your neighbor,you cannot love others if you do
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not love yourself.
And he said love them asyourself.
So as much as you're takingcare of yourself, you should be
taking care of other people,that much.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And so that's the
difference.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Both ways.
That's the difference fromself-care and being selfish.
Someone who takes care ofthemselves, you will know,
because the fruit will show thatthey take care of others.
Someone who's being selfish,someone who takes care of
themselves, you will know,because the fruit will show that
they take care of others.
Someone who's being selfish,they're only thinking about
themselves, it's just arevolving door with themselves.
That's the difference and itgoes against the Bible.
It goes against what God hascalled us to do.
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Jesus said love your neighboras you love yourself.
So, as you take care ofyourself, you're always looking
out for other people.
That, as you take care ofyourself, you're always looking
out for other people.
That is self-care, and that'swhy we say that here at let's
Dig the Podcast, our missionstatement is to help you grow a
deep relationship with God,others and yourself.
I really believe some peoplehave the worst relationship with
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themselves.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It's true, and even
when you think of how people
love themselves, like you can'tlove others if you don't love
yourself.
And I think, even on the flipside of whether you're selfish,
the opposite is true.
Sometimes people don't evenknow their self-worth.
They lose that, they forgetthat.
I can't tell you how many timesI've talked to girls and I'm
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like I'm encouraging thembecause they're sad about a
relationship or something that'snot working out.
And I'm like I'm encouragingthem because they're sad about a
relationship or somethingthat's not working out.
And I'm like girl, you have tolike for me, and it's taken me a
while to do this.
You have to think of yourselfas a daughter of the King, as a
son of the King.
Is this what he would want for?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
you.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And when people
forget that, like oh wait, this
is not up to God's standard orI'm living underneath what God
even thinks of me, Like I toldsomeone the other day.
I said if you knew that God sawyou valuable enough to send his
only son to die for you, howmuch does he think of you, how
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much does he love you?
And then you sit here and tellme that you're worthless or you
aren't good at anything or youdon't have anything to offer.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
You are crazy, You're
not seeing it because you don't
see their.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
They don't see their
self worth.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, yeah.
And it hurts my heart wheneverwe hear from people that have a
hard time seeing their callingor their purpose or their
passion or really understandingwhy do they exist.
Because, ultimately, the answeris this get closer to God and
you'll get closer to yourself.
Get closer to the one who wroteoff the purpose for you.
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Get closer to the one whoactually knows a plan and has a
plan for you.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Miles Monroe always
says that the best way that you
can know something is to knowthe creator of it.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
If you want to know
this, um, this like mechanical
machine.
The best way that you couldunderstand this mechanical
machine is if you knew thecreator of it, because they're
going to know the ins and outs,the nuts and bolts, every single
detail, why this is createdthis way and that way in this
way.
And it's the same likemannerism for us if we want to
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know ourselves.
Know the creator, because heknows every single nut and bolt
and why this is that way and whythat's created this way and
like.
So if you, the more you seekgod, the more you can understand
yourself.
The more you can understandyourself, the more you can love
yourself and the more you cansee the worth in yourself
because you were worth his sondying for you.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So let me ask you a
question what is something new
that you're adding to your lifethat helps you take better care
of yourself?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Okay, so I know that
the time change is coming this
Sunday or well, when we streamthis, it will be the time change
day, but I am going to startwaking up earlier and spending
that time reading the word likebefore the kids get up.
So the kids get up at six 30.
I'm going to make it a goal towake up at six, Like I've been
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feeling that for the last weekor two.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Is it something that
you feel like you have to do?
Is it something that you wantto do?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
No, I want to do it.
I want that time in the morningLike I want to be that person
that makes it a priority to havethe quiet time before the kids
get up, to be disciplined aboutit.
Listen, listen to y'all.
I love to snooze my phone.
I love to hit the snoozemultiple times.
I will set the alarm early sothat I can snooze it multiple
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times.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
It's if, honestly, if
, if hitting snooze was a career
, you could probably teachcourses on how to hit snooze.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
It just like it makes
me think that I get to like
stay in bed longer even if Ididn't, if I set the alarm
earlier, and it just makes melike soak in those extra 10
minutes of my bed.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I love my bed, which
the crazy thing is like if you
look at the research and thescience behind it.
I don't know all that.
I'm not a scientist, All right.
Um, I am an FBI privateinvestigator, but I'm not a
scientist.
But if you look at the sciencebehind it, hitting snooze is
actually worse for your sleep.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I know it actually
causes more fatigue.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
It causes more
fatigue.
I've been able to break thathabit.
You know what I did.
I told you what I did.
I had the fastest snooze button.
I had the fastest snooze button.
Yep, I remember which is crazy,crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I did not take part
in that change my life but I do.
I like this is something that Iwant to have that time, like in
the morning by myself.
You're already gone to the gymusually, so the kids are asleep,
like I can do that, and so, um,yeah, so that's my new goal
that's coming up.
What about yours just gonnarest in god's?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
presence, oh lord,
that's what I.
What about yours?
Just going to rest in God'spresence, oh Lord, that's what I
do to take care of myself.
Wild yeah man, honestly, like I, I'll be honest with you guys.
You guys already know this I'ma musician, I'm a producer and I
spent a lot of my time takingcare of other people's music,
taking care of other people'sbaby, and this new year I want
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to like release my music.
I haven't done it in a coupleof years.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
It's true, you
haven't.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
And I'm doing it one
because it's what God has put
inside me, and I know that weare living in the end times, the
last days, and I will be heldaccountable for the things that
God has put in my hand that Idid nothing with yeah, it's very
true that I did nothing withand I do feel that and that's
been like burning and stirringup in my heart Like, okay, god,
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I'm going to do this, I'm goingto do this, so let's dig through
.
I need you guys, all right, Ineed y'all, ldc, to literally
hold me accountable to that.
I really do believe, like forthis new year, I want to.
I want to do it and it isself-care, but it's with the
purpose of blessing others, andthat's what I'm saying.
That's what I feel like thedifference between self-care and
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selfish, and I do.
It's something that I really dowant to do.
Even speaking of self-care, do,even speaking of self-care, man
, it's, I think, everybodybenefits, like when everyone has
the mindset of you know what?
I need to be good so that wecan be good.
I need to be good so that wecan be good.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It reminds me of even
when you're on the airplane and
they tell you like, if you aretraveling with little ones, put
your oxygen mask on first beforeyou put on the child's.
Like no one can take care ofthe kid if you pass out because
you were trying to get the maskon the kid and then you passed
out or whatever.
Like you literally like have totake care of yourself first so
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that you can take care of others.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, jesus did it.
If you look at the life ofChrist, how many times did he
say no for a situation?
He was on his way.
He was on a mission, doingsomething, and someone tried to
pull him off his path to dosomething and he was like no.
How many times was Christ inmoments where the disciples
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wanted to stay and hang and justbe focused on one thing and he
was like no, we're done here, wegot to go.
Or how many times did Jesusactually hide and get away?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I was going to say he
got away a lot and what did he
do when he got away?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
He got closer to God.
He went away to pray, tostrengthen himself.
It was for the purpose ofstrengthening others.
I think there are people rightnow that are listening to this
and they struggle with thatthought of taking care of
themselves.
They've been misled.
They think if they take care ofthemselves, then they're being
selfish.
But you got to really thinkabout who are the people in your
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lives that are depending onyour health, your mental health,
your spiritual health and yourphysical health.
Like that's the reason whyJesus said to love God with all
your mind right, your soul, yourheart, your body, everything,
everything.
The Bible says that it's in himthat we live and we move and
have our being.
So if you can't move right, Ifyou're hurting, if you feel like
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God has called you to do greatthings right but you're crazily
overweight're, your heartcondition is is in a certain
condition because of how you'vebeen eating your health that's
poor stewardship on on ourselves, Like it's mismanagement.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Your body is a temple
.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Our body is a temple.
So I really do believe.
Like there are people that aredeceived and they think well,
you know, I don't have time toeat because I'm so busy feeding
other people.
You ever heard that story ofthe old bakery, a baker that he
went hungry because he was sobusy?
He actually got unhealthy andgot sick of starvation because
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he was never eating his body,the stuff that happened inside
of his stomach and things likethat, because he was so busy
feeding other people.
Well, if that's how you live,you're going to live a short
life and the people that aredepending on you are trusting
that you are taking care ofyourself.
Like even for me, I never wantmy leaders or the people that I
report to to ever have to tellme to take a day off.
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If the moment someone has totell you to take a day off,
you're past, you're overdue fora day off.
You know the bodies, yourdashboard, the meters.
All inside of your heart istelling you Paul, stop today.
I didn't go to the gym todaybecause I went to bed too late
and I knew I still needed acertain amount of hours of sleep
and rest.
Yeah, so I took care of myselfby resting.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, care of myself
by resting, yeah, even this
Saturday.
I have been working a lot ofweekends and I turned down gigs
for this weekend because I said,nope, I need a Saturday with
just us as a family, likeknowing that balance.
And then even for that, likefor work stuff, like that really
is a muscle and a strength anda faith test to just rest in the
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Lord and know, like God, youyou're going to take care of
everything, you provideeverything we need.
So I'm going to rest with myfamily so that you can bless us
even in that rest and in thatmoment.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I want to talk to
also for the people that are out
there and you're selfish andyou don't even know it and
you're like well, I'm notselfish, I give.
Yeah, you give to yourself,right.
Or how about this?
You give stuff away that youare going to throw away.
I feel like that's stillselfish.
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There's still a difference.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, that's true.
Because, you give awaysomething that you value.
That you, value you gavesomething away that was trash to
you, so it costs you nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
So here we have in
the Bible.
Jesus is standing right thereby the offering container, the
offering buckets, and he'swatching people as they give to
the church and he sees this ladycome and she just gives almost
what most people see looks likenothing.
But Jesus looks at her and saysshe has given more than
everybody and all the religiouspeople that are doing.
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Well, they're like wait, wegave way more than her.
Well, no, you're looking at thequantity of it, but the quality
of it was to her she gaveeverything that she had.
And I think there are peopleout there that actually can be
helping more people, that can beserving more people, giving
more, taking care of more people, but they're selfish and
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they're taking care ofthemselves for themselves.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
That is selfish, and
maybe some of those people, yeah
, there's no fruit, and maybesome of those people are not
self there's no fruit and maybesome of those people are not
self-aware enough to know, ohman, I am a selfish person.
I kind of did just do that formyself and I would challenge
those people to really look atyour motives, really look at
like ooh, why did I do that?
Or why did I care so much aboutthat, and then also to look at
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your personality types.
That was something that reallypointed something out to me of.
So one of my personality typesis that I can.
I can be, um, self-centered inthe thought of like I'm the
problem or I'm the solution.
So if I'm at work and they'regiving a big old speech about
you cannot be late, I don't care.
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If I've never been late in mylife, I will feel like that's my
fault.
Or if there's at work they'relike, hey, we need someone to
take over cleaning the salonevery day, I would feel like, oh
, maybe I should do that and I'mnot a good cleaner.
So I I didn't learn thosethings about myself until I
learned, like, my personalitytypes and then I can fight that
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and I can be more self-aware.
So even for those people thatmaybe they don't even realize
they're being selfish becausethey're not self-aware enough to
know.
Like question your motive,question.
Say like why did I care so muchthat that hurt my feelings?
Or why did I care so much thatI got to pick the one thing I
wanted?
You know, think about like.
Question your motive of like.
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What is that in your heart?
I've talked to that a littlebit about like consumerism and
what we live in, of like God,check my heart.
I don't want that to be theroot that I feel like I need
things.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah, Um, I think an
indicator for people that are
trying to figure out am Iselfish?
If you do something for someoneelse, are you happy for them or
are you happy for you?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
And are you okay with
no one knowing you ever did it.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Those are indicators,
and the reason why I said are
you happy for them?
Are you happy for you?
Right, that's another indicator, right, but let's go to, let's
say that one.
The reason let's elaborate onan indicator that tells you that
you are selfish is that whenyou do something for someone
else, are you happy for them,are you happy for you, are you?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
wow, look at me right
and what I did for them.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, or man, I hope
you enjoy it, like I loved
having this thing, and I'm happyfor you.
Ma'am, it just makes me happyto see you smile.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
If you are more happy
for you, it's still about you
and you're selfish, it's true.
Now, the other indicator is,like you said, do you care if
others know that you took careof someone else?
Because if you want others toknow and Jesus even said, he
said, even when you give, givein a way that even your left
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hand don't even know what yourright hand was doing, right,
that's wild, huh, that's wild,like what your own hands Even
give so smooth, like hey, justslip that thing in that man's
hand that your left hand waslike wait, what just happened?
Hey, where'd you go right.
Hey, what just happened?
Hey, where'd you go right.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Hey, righty, where'd
you go your names call each
other righty and lefty.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
You know.
But those are indicators, true,and I think if you're listening
to this right now, you're likedang, that's crazy.
I did something and I did wanta lot of people to know.
I wanted to get a shout out, orI felt bad that no one shouted
me out, I felt bad that theydidn't hit me back or those
types of things.
Or the other day I was at astreet corner and I remember
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there was a homeless guy there,panhandler, and a lot of times,
if I have something, like I'llgive something to them, but if I
don't, I don't right.
But there's times where, like,I feel bad that I don't and
there's times where I'm justlike I don't feel anything.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I don't know which
one is, which Right, right.
But what I'm saying is I'mputting the thought into
consideration, I'm consideringthis person, yeah, and I
remember telling myself thatthat time I said man, the next
time I'm there, like if I havesomething, I'll give something.
So I'm on a street corner and Imade some lunch.
Matter of fact, half the lunchwas some of your stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I was going to say
you didn't make no lunch.
You took my leftovers.
You told me I took yourleftovers.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I made your leftovers
and put them together.
I compiled all your leftovers.
All right, I didn't have thatmany leftovers.
I pieced it together yourleftovers plus my leftovers.
All right, we're not.
We don't need to get into thetechnicalities.
This is not a crime scene.
All right, relax.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
But when I got to
that light, right when I saw the
guy, I was like dang it, man, Iwas looking forward to this
lunch.
I'm not even going to lie.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
No, that's super sad.
I get that.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I'm not even going to
lie.
Oh, you guys thought the storywas going to be me talking about
.
Oh man, look at him taking careof that guy.
No, I was selfish, I wasthinking of myself and I fought
it.
I fought it, I fought it.
I was like man, I do not wantto.
I got a big old fat croissantin this thing.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Boy, this thing going
to be really good.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
You know I love me my
bread and my croissant, and you
know I'm Well.
Anyways, this is like it's justso long, forever it's not
turning green.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
You kept waiting for
it to turn.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Anyways, something
prompted me to just do it.
Just do it.
You have nothing to lose, justeverything to gain.
Right, which in this world?
It looks like we have somethingto lose Our lunch?
No, because the crazy thing issomeone took care of me that day
and someone bought me lunchthat day.
That's crazy.
But when I rolled down my and Igave my food to this guy, you
know what also went with him?
Like I saw a smile on him andhe said God bless you, brother.
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And that lifted me up and youknow what I gained right there,
like I felt joy in that moment.
I felt joy in that moment.
It pleased, it made me happy.
I felt happy for him to seethat he ate that day.
He said God bless you, and Ireceived a blessing, his
blessing, and someone blessed methat day.
And so to me, I think, like forpeople that are still really
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going back and forth on, likeyou know, putting others before
yourself or taking care ofyourself, and what does that
whole thing look like?
Right, do I take care of mefirst?
Do I take care of them first?
It's a combination of both, but, like you said earlier, it's
really the condition of yourheart.
Why are you doing these things?
Is it so that everybody wins?
The goal is for everybody towin.
The goal is that, hey, I'mgoing to do this thing and I
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hope it blesses you and itblessing you blesses me Me
coming home early in the morning, at 7.30 in the morning, after
being at the gym, spending timewith the Lord, listening to
podcasts, listening to sermons,listening to the Bible,
worshiping, and being able tosee my kids be so happy and run
up to me and give me a hug.
And I embrace them with a hugLike I'm happy that I took care
of myself, because my kids loveme, they're not afraid of me.
They know dad's not coming inall grumpy, all pissed up,
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thinking about me the whole timeand they're just trying to stay
out the way.
And I think those are smallindicators of like people really
looking at their heart to see,okay, am I really taking care of
myself when I make alldecisions for me?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Meaning, like others,
get to enjoy a good me, yeah,
or as I'm taking care of myself.
A last indicator that I want toshare is for those that are
really struggling with thethought of like man, am I
selfish?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
You got to look at
the end of the day and really
ask yourself do?
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I feel fulfilled With
all the decisions that I made
today, all the things that I didfor me, all the things that I
did for others.
At the end of the day, whenyour head hits that pillow, are
you like, man?
It was a good day today.
It was a long day, it was abusy day, it kicked my butt, but
I can look at all the fruitthat was produced from that day.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Because, let's be
honest, someone can go to bed,
lay their head on their pillow,feel fulfilled and still be darn
selfish all day.
But they don't have no fruit toshow for it.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I ain't talking about
your bank account being
fulfilled.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
They don't have any
fruit to show for it.
Hanukkah got being fulfilled.
They're not.
They don't have any fruit toshow for it.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
They didn't impact
anybody else and the fruit fruit
is people.
Yeah, that's the harvest Right.
It's the people, cause they'rethe only ones that matter in
this world to God.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
So if you're only
serving yourself, there's no
fruit to show for it, then youare being selfish and you need
to check your heart and you needchange that posture of your
heart.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
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