Faith, Identity, and Political Activism: Gentry Gevers

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Gentry Jeevers.
Welcome to the podcast, myfriend.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Thanks for having me, guys.
I'm excited to be here.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, super cool, jordan, good to have you.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Of course, yeah, I'm so glad we're making it work.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, dude Gentry, you and I have kind of exchanged
messages.
I would say, what a couple ofyears now.
Something like that.
Yeah, yeah, I was like, hey, ifyou're ever in Southern
California, come on the podcast,but now since we have this
virtual, it makes it a loteasier and so people know I
follow Gentry on social media.
So if you don't, we will putthat up when we post videos and

(00:47):
all that we'll talk about onhere.
But please follow him because Ilove what he posts.
A lot of political stuff whichwe're going to talk about here.
A lot of the things that themedia won't put up Gentry puts
up and I love it, and it seemslike you've actually garnered
quite a following now with whatyou're kind of putting up, right
uh, yeah, it's been.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
It's been really fun.
I I have been deleted more thana few times.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I will tell you so you mean like, you mean your
your instagram account deleted?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
yeah, what?
So this is my second instagramaccount.
I've had three tiktoks.
I've had two Twitter accountsback before Elon bought it, but
I've I've I've had like aquarter million followers
deleted just like that becauseI'm posting truth and they don't
like it.
So I've been deleted a fewtimes for some of the the, the

(01:42):
trans stuff that I put up COVIDstuff, my, my, my biggest
account was on Tik TOK.
I had 120,000 followers.
Like a hundred thousand videowas like the average.
So just crushing it there andthen it's all gone.
And I'll tell you guys somethingUm, I I know people who have
been deleted more than me, butso I'm not trying to like get

(02:05):
this moniker of the mostcensored person online, right,
but I'm pretty censored and it'sdemoralizing when you have to
start from zero.
Yeah, horrible, because youbuild momentum, you build a
following, you build a communityin the comments.
I mean, if you look at thecomments, they're, um, I get
some weird comments likeactually all the time now,

(02:28):
because we're we're hitting 57000 followers on on instagram
now, which is which is great, uh, but you know, there's, there's
a community built, there's,there's friendships that are
built.
Uh, it's this getting deletedis a bummer.
I'm trying.
It sucks playing between theselines.

(02:50):
What?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Gentry's going on.
A good one here, jordan'slosing.
I know, dude, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
I put a zit in right before this conversation and I
just inhaled a little saliva.
So oh, buddy, keep going.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
I put a zit in right before this conversation, and I
just inhaled a little saliva.
So oh, buddy, keep going.
What you got, you got you gotwintergreen or you got.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
We're in California where you can't choose your
flavor, so it's chill, is thethe only ones we can.
We can get over here.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Technically, California did away with
flavored zin.
This is the land of no fun, bythe way.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
It's selective, fun right.
California still, regardless ofthe politics, is still one of
the best places in the world.
I don't know.
I was just in Huntington Beach,I think in February or
something like that OK, and thatplace is just amazing.
Politics suck, but Discord.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
I mean it's it's, it's one of the few places that
don't really have seasons, andif you grew up out here, you are
not good at traveling, becauseor at least for me personally
because, like you know, you goto other states or you go places
where it actually is cold orsnows and I'm like I'm out, you
know you get that one or twodays and then you're like people

(04:17):
live in this.
You know, like functionally,and I just I don't know I'm weak
in that way and I just I don'tknow I'm weak in that way.
But yeah, the politics of thisstate are not.
I'm not a big fan of it, youknow.
It's like you can choose tohave an abortion but you can't
pick a flavor of nicotine pouch.
You know what I mean.

(04:37):
Like, I just feel like we'reall over the place.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
That's a very good point.
Now, gentry, you were talkingabout like your following, and
you made very good point.
Now, gentia, you were talkingabout like your, your following,
and you made a good point rightCommunity, which, which that's
what social media is for rightCommunity.
Now, it has gotten a littlecrazy online, especially.
Uh, I know I remember youputting a post about your
Twitter.
Um, I have a Twitter.
I don't really have a greatfollowing on there, for some

(05:00):
reason.
I have a lot of people thatfollow me on on Instagram, but
following on there, for somereason, I have a lot of people
that follow me on on instagram.
But, dude, twitter is like thewild west.
Still, I mean, there is somecrazy stuff getting posted on
there.
Dude, crazy, crazy stuff it's.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
I think opening up free speech to a point is
actually a really good thingbecause it'll get regulated, not
necessarily by the platforms orby the government, but just by
the comments, really.
So there's always a supply anddemand right in any industry,

(05:36):
and with social media it'sattention.
And if you get a whole bunch ofthese like leftist accounts or
OnlyFans, only fans girls, oryou know these terrorist people
on on twitter, and then you knowpeople see that and you're like
, oh, that's terrible, we haveto regulate, I don't think
that's the right way to do it.
I think the the way to combatspeech, especially speech you

(05:58):
don't like, is with more speech,not regulation, and so.
So, with Elon buying X andopening it up, it's like, at
least from the politicalperspective, conservatives are
dominating that platform for agood reason, because we've been
censored on every other platform.
But that doesn't mean that youknow, the left can't go dominate

(06:22):
it, or some of these otherpockets of social media can't
dominate it too.
So, um, I feel like the morespeech that's on the internet,
the better it is.
I'm not a free speech absolutist.
Um, I I think that you knowthere's definitely some people
that can go ahead and inciteviolence and I'm not for that at

(06:42):
all Trying to figure out wherethat line is for me.
I'm not a regulator, so itdoesn't really matter what I
think, but I think some of therhetoric that's been pushed from
the left the last eight yearson mainstream platforms like CNN
, abc, instagram, twitter,tiktok I mean you name it that

(07:07):
Trump is Hitler, I think reallycaused the assassination attempt
last week and I feel like notlast week, three weeks ago,
sorry, so much has happened inthe last three weeks.
It feels like it's been 10years.
So much, especially in thepolitical world.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Yeah, it's a lot's gone down.
I mean, dude, we could probablyhave a four-hour podcast just
on the past.
I would say even week and ahalf.
I mean, there's so much goingon that's underreported, such as
the petrol dollar, Saudi Arabiagoing from that, I mean that's
a pretty big deal.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
You have to search to find information about that.
You have to search to findinformation about that.
That's how pocketed that stuffis.
They're like whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Let's look more about this trans boxer beating up a
woman, which that's importantnews.
Here's the problem.
It's all important, right, it'sall important, but there's

(08:14):
stuff that's going on in thebackground, kind of like you're
saying, with the rest of theworld transitioning from the
dollar to bricks or you knowanother system, or even crypto.
I'm a big fan of crypto, buteverybody people don't
necessarily realize the impactthat that's going to have.
Realize the impact that that'sgoing to have.
I mean, one of the things thathas made America so great is,
after World War II.
One of the things that wedecided was that the US dollar
was going to be the worldreserve currency and that's

(08:36):
brought in like a ton ofprosperity to America and every
country, and so we don't reallyknow the implications of going
from the US dollar to BRICS orsome of these other currencies.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, I think, like you said, it's a big deal and no
one's talking about it.
I mean, from what I've read, asfar as Saudi Arabia going from
the petrol dollar and everythingthat was kind of propping up
our dollar for quite some time,we're already in a pretty bad
situation with inflation andeverything that's going on in
interest rates.
So it's like, oh boy, I wonderwhat this is going to do over

(09:12):
the next couple of years, oreven shorter, who knows?

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Well, it's a balance of value.
I mean, if we're using otherthings to propagate the US
dollar, which gives it its powerworldwide, right, and we're
taking I know it's not all of it, but the petrodollar and our
influence with oil distributionor distribution to the world,
essentially that does prop us upto a marginal, you know,

(09:39):
percentage there.
So taking that away or, let'ssay, not negotiating to move
forward with it, is really moreof what's going on and there's
other influences around that,like you said, with BRICS and
whatnot.
I think that the banking isthat they're trying to like, hey
, let's not bring this attentionforward because this is going

(10:00):
to be impacting, is going to beimpacting, you know.
It's like, look, depending onwhat presidency we get moving
forward, whether we're going tokeep outsourcing everything or
do anything internally rightwith the Alaskan pipeline and
doing drilling here for a lot ofdifferent things.
If we don't get that, then theconsumer is not going to get a
break at the pump.
That's never going to happen.
And you know, I think that it'sstrategic in that to leave this

(10:25):
off of the mainstream stuff.
And then there are a lot ofimportant things that I mean.
Look, three weeks ago or lessthan three weeks ago, there was
a, an assassination attempt ofthe, you know, top candidate for
the opposition side, right, youknow, and it's only been three
weeks and I don't see that on TVanymore.
You know, like it's like anafter the end, obviously,

(10:49):
depending on what you'rewatching, but if you turn on the
main, you know, abc, nbc, allthat stuff they're not even
talking about that, you know,it's like because that's the
kind of time frame that we workin.
I feel like now and we've seenthat like accelerated over the
last few years that if somethingcrazy happens which I would say
that that was one of the mosthistoric crazy things that has
happened in the United Statessince the, you know the attempt
on Reagan essentially like likewe're not talking about that, so

(11:14):
it doesn't.
it doesn't surprise me ever whenyou hear like, oh hey, we lost
the contract with thepetrodollar for Saudi Arabia,
and everyone's like, eh, anyway,you know.
But then.
But then, three years from now,when gas is $7.50 or $8 or $9 a
gallon, and everyone's like, ohmy gosh, I can't even afford to
drive to work.
What happened, you know?

(11:35):
And it's like cause peoplearen't paying attention.
So you know, when you have, youknow, individuals like yourself
and you're posting these, youknow current events that maybe
aren't being publicized in themainstream.
It is great, you know, andhopefully people do subscribe to
that and keep being informed.
And I'm not saying like pickingone side or the other.

(11:55):
I think the point of it is thatwe kind of live in the society
where all we read is headlinesand we take that for what it is.
You know there's no diving intoit, because I remember Tim the
other night when he sent me likedude the petrodollar and I was
like I thought that was been inthe works for the last couple
months, like they've beenfighting it back and forth and,
dude, I tried to findinformation on it.

(12:16):
Now I didn't spend a long timebecause I was at home, my kids
were running around all crazyand that, but, but it's just an
example of like there are somany working things around us
that would behoove ourselves tobe knowledgeable and it seems
like everything right now isagainst getting that knowledge
out there.
Unless you, like, are more of I, you know, I don't know what to

(12:39):
say an outlier, but like havingthat idea that doesn't just,
hey, do what you're told, kindof thing.
You know it's put, it'sbasically keeping us in a box
and then, for some reason,everyone's surprised when we
have these massive changes andit's unfortunate, you know, and
there's so many examples of it.
I mean, look at, look, theassassination attempt on trump.
You know, if you have beenreading about that, you'll know

(13:00):
in the last week there's a lotof things that have come out
where you're like, you know,lone gunman didn't act alone,
was there multiple shooters?
How many people are influencedon it?
You know, like the things thatyou would think that are a
massive, important securityissues and we're kind of like,
oh, look, the olympics, theymade them, they made them swim

(13:21):
in dirty water, or hey, thistrans person.
I keep bringing that up becausethat just happened.
It blows my mind that they'reallowed that to occur.
But anyway, sorry, I don't knowwhy I was ranting about that.
No, you're good.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well, I think it's important again of like what
you're doing, gentry.
You know your platform, whatyou post, not being afraid to
post, not worrying about.
It seems to me like you're notworried about what people think
and I do like that.
You leave the comments there.
It seems like you leave thenegative comments right, people

(13:54):
that are going to hate on you orsay crazy stuff, because that
is really you start.
You can kind of see like amelting pot Look when you put
something up or other thingsthat I think are interesting,
the first thing I do is comments.
What are people saying?
What is going on?
Who's going crazy?
Who's actually thinkinglogically?
And it blows my mind how somepeople, it seems like, don't

(14:15):
think for themselves, don't wantto do research, don't want to
find out for themselves what'shappening in our country, what's
important, what's the lies thatare being told.
And that's why I think it'sinteresting where for you, when
you I guess what year would yousay your first social media?

(14:35):
Was it TikTok or Instagram?
Was that during COVID that itgot?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:41):
So my I've had a couple deleted in 20 and 21.
Um I so here's something reallyfunny I actually accidentally
went viral, um on on Trump stuff.
So I I was living in Seattle atthe time.
That's where I'm from.

(15:01):
I live in Charlotte nowCharlotte, north Carolina.
Um, and I was trying to like sothis is actually a funny story.
So I had I'd gotten an auditionto go on the Bachelor, I'd
gotten one to go on Love isBlind.
So I was like I was trying togo like the, the dating dating
show before COVID.
And so I was like a manager forinfluencers, I helped consult

(15:25):
small business, so I knew socialmedia a little bit.
And then I accidentally wentviral for a Trump video and it
was really lazy video.
I was just like I was watchingall this stuff unfold with
George Floyd and COVID and I waslike COVID's stupid.
I don't know why we're allfreaking out about it.
It's not that bad, I got it, itwas, it was.

(15:47):
It wasn't like it sucked, butit I survived.
And so I put up this video andI was like hey guys, I'm a Trump
supporter in Seattle who's withme.
And that thing ended up goingviral thousands of hate comments
and then thousands ofsupportive comments too, and I
started to gain a following andstarted posting more.

(16:09):
I'd grown up conservative.
I'd grown up Christian, I washomeschooled, grew up in the
church, so I'd always kind ofknown that I was conservative
but I didn't really know why.
And then the last four yearshave really been like a dive
into like politics, politicalscience, theology, like the
whole nine yards so that I canactually back up what I'm

(16:29):
actually saying.
But yeah, I've had severalaccounts deleted.
I think I can go back to myscreenshots and look, but yeah,
that's super interesting.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
So it's never really happened to me.
I don't think it's happened toJordan.
So one night you go to bed, youhave your social media and then
you wake up and you go to login and you can't log.
Is it like you can't log in?
There's nothing there.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
And then there's this thing that pops up and says
we've removed your account for X, y, z, stupid reason, and then
you just can't get back in.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
And you just got to make a new one.
Yeah, oh, we lost Jordan, sorry, no, there you are.
Are you guys getting feedbackby any chance?
A little bit, is it from my?
It might be you, jordan, it'sall right.
It might be you, jordan, it'sall right.
It might be, because the otherspeaker is probably too.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
It might be echoing or something like that, it's
okay.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
I love the technical difficulties.
Well, it's interesting, right,because I grew up that way too,
gentry.
I grew up in a very strictChristian home and I tell
everybody here I'm a very strictChristian home and, um, you
know I'm I tell everybody hereI'm a prodigal son.
I walked away from my faith forquite some time, uh, and lived
a very, very wild, and for me,it was just coming into a

(17:53):
realization.
Like yo, there ain't nothingout there.
This is crazy.
Like my, my life is gettingworse and I don't want to do
this anymore.
Not only that, but it brought alot of hope, right, and I had
to learn that it wasn't aboutreligion and doing these.
Just wake up.
And you got to go to church onWednesday night and then Sunday
morning.
Once I realized it was apersonal relationship, it just

(18:15):
changed a lot of my life.
But it brought a lot moremeaning into my decision making
as well, and that also includespolitics, right?
What's going to align with whatI believe and what I know my
faith is and what the Bible says?
And the Bible is probably one ofthe most controversial books
out there and people don't likeit.
Example look at the opening ofthe 2024 Olympics.

(18:40):
What the heck is going on.
That was absolutely wild.
I couldn't believe it.
I was watching and I rememberthinking, like you know, one
thing I know the Bible does isGod will not be mocked and
that's a dangerous place tostart playing around in.
And it was really shocking tosee that last supper table he

(19:03):
had that huge, overweight womanwho I guess is supposed to
represent Jesus.
I don't even know, but there'sjust a lot going on.
That was like yo, likeeverything is so blatant now.
No one's trying to hide it andthen it's like it's acceptable,
and then everyone has thisargument Well, you know Jesus,
when he was on earth he hung outwith sinners and this, and that
I'm like, yeah, of course hedid.
He hung out with sinners andthis and that I'm like, yeah, of

(19:25):
course he did, but he didn'tlike condone what they were
doing and hung out with them tochange them.
You know what I'm saying.
Like I don't judge anybody.
I'm the last person here onthis earth to answer that should
be judging anyone and some ofmy good friends.
I have family members who arelesbian and are gay and they're
some of my closest friends.
But to push things on peoplelike that, you know, I always

(19:45):
say, like I don't care what youdo, you can be transsexual, you
can do whatever you want.
But like, how much do I got toplay along?
How much does my family have toplay along and be forced into
certain things?
My, my wife, is pregnant now.
We're having a daughter andthere's certain things now in
the schools that are beingtaught.
I'm like in California, I'mlike I don't, I, we might have
to put her in a private school.
I don't agree with that.
Like, why can't kids be kids.

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Why are we forcing sexuality onthem at such a young age?
We're taking away theirinnocence.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Let them be who they're going to be, you know so
to see what was happening inthe Olympics, man, and just
blatantly in your face and it'slike, everyone's like, whatever
it's, it's a wild time to bealive right now do you feel that
, like a lot of things that have, let's say, the last six, seven

(20:31):
years, a lot of things havebecome very important, that or
at least displayed as being veryimportant, especially with,
like, the lgbt trans community,like has kind of taken this
forefront?
Do you think that a little bitof that is maybe because, like,
it's almost like a low-hangingfruit item as far as politically

(20:52):
, because it's one of thosethings where you can like, hey,
you should be able to dowhatever you want.
It's very easy to say, hey, webelieve in freedom, you should
be able to do what you want.
It's very easy to say, hey, webelieve in freedom, you should
be able to do what you want.
Right, so, like most peoplethat don't have vested interests
or maybe aren't even a part ofthese communities, they can sit
back and go well, yeah, that'sOK.
And then once that kind of getsperpetuated into the you know

(21:15):
people running like basicallypoliticking, you know that's
where you started to see like alittle bit of this, like I mean,
cause, look at the end of theday, I do think, like, as an
adult, you should be able to dowhat you want to do, as long as
you're not harming anyone aroundyou.
You know, and I, it's verysimple, you know now I'm not
saying no, I'll stick by that,actually Like.

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But we're, you know, obviouslygetting involved with the kids
and the grooming and all thiskind of stuff.
I'm completely against all that.
But what I found to beinteresting is like, not that
long ago, trans.
The more associative medicalterm would have been gender

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dysphoria and there was like hey, look and I'm not saying that
we, we shouldn't like thereshould be help for people that
are having issues with that, andsomewhere along the lines it
went from that to it's, you know, be yourself in that way and be
beautiful and brave, and allthis kind of stuff and how that
parlayed into more and morestuff with kids.
You know, we kind of we got alittle bit of a snapshot over

(22:19):
the last few years of thatmovement and it's like, you know
, not not saying that things arecertain aspects of stuff that
aren't important, but like to meI'm like how did that even gain
ground other than the only likefeasible thing I could think of
is that politicians and peopleat the top figured out how to

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segment feelings and by thattranslates to being able to move
money.
And I think that that's whereyou know it's like basically
saying like if you had to run asa, you know as a class
president when you're inelementary school and you're
like hey, if you vote for me,I'm gonna put you who and all

(23:01):
the water fountains.
We don't have to drink wateranymore.
You know, it sounds very simple.
People are gonna be like hell,yeah, I love you, who.
It's amazing, you know, notreally looking at what I
represent as a kid, not knowinganything else other than people
like you, who you know, and Ifeel like there's a lot of that
like similar, like.
Obviously that's very basic,but the similarities and what

(23:22):
becomes more important at thetime that we've seen, especially
with like the the left, if yousay or any kind of progressive
movement people, is that theyfind these things that are a
little bit untouched and theyexploit them and utilize that as
like look at me, I'm virtuous,I believe in.
Everyone has a thing.
And you're like, yeah, exceptyou're part of making bills that

(23:44):
have associated medicalinsurance coverages that now
your donors are getting back endpaid, you know, for certain
things that never existed beforethis time and now all of a
sudden it's a super importantthing and now it's affecting not
just the individual.
Is like, hey, if you want totuck your sack back and throw
some rouge on and paint the townred, cool man.

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But I don't have to like be like, hey, I'm so proud of you.
Nor do I think that, hey, mykid could potentially be
influenced by this right.
So we kind of live in that like.
That's why like I always kindof come back to you know what
started it.
Why was it that way?
Why, all of a sudden, now morethan ever in history, this is an
important subject matter thatpeople are even voting on, you

(24:25):
know, and I think it's becauseof that, I think it's because
it's it's like a generalized lowhanging fruit issue I use that
term as in it's easy to grabright, you know, and anyway.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
So.
So my thoughts on this is it'sreally easy to divide people
kind of like what you weresuggesting, into like identity
politics, right.
So what?
What the left has done really,really well is first they they
say, oh, this group ispersecuted, right, and then they

(24:59):
want us to, and then they wantus to tolerate, and then they
want us to accept, and nowthey're forcing us to
participate, right.
So we've gone from persecutetolerate, acceptance, right,
where now everyone's like oh,like everyone's beautiful,
everyone's all this kind ofstuff.
And I mean that happens withthe LGBTQIA plus, plus Q2A,

(25:22):
however many things there arethat happen with really the fat
phobia community Right.
There's like all this likewhat's it called Fat acceptance
now, where we're just acceptingthe fact that you have eaten
yourself into oblivion and likeit's, it's horrible, it's awful,

(25:43):
you need help, like we're, likeyou're very sick.
But now we're getting into the,the part of history where we
have to participate, and that'swhere the Olympic games ceremony
comes in, where we're forced towatch it, and not only is it a
representation of the transagenda, but it's also like a

(26:05):
slap in the face to allChristians and it's insane.
It's also happening in schoolsin California and in Washington,
I think Chicago too there's aton of states now where, like
teachers somehow think they haveauthority to hide stuff from
their parents and it doesn'tmatter if it's on LGBTQ or

(26:30):
insert whatever topic there.
Like teachers don't, like thegovernment doesn't have
authority to hide stuff fromfrom parents because in a way,
in a very large way, they'retaking, um, they're taking
control of the kids and they'resaying, oh, like your, your
parents don't know anything,right, so we're the experts, so

(26:50):
we're going to do this and yourparents may not get it and all
this kind of stuff.
And kids are so impressionable,they're learning stuff as it
comes.
They don't unless you have likea really smart kid and you just
like instilled like discernmentand wisdom, which is really
hard to do, I think, because Ididn't learn wisdom until I was
like 28.
My parents are fantastic, yeah,but like kids are like so

(27:14):
impressionable and learningstuff like as it goes, and so
like they're going to take mostthings as truth because someone
older and taller and, you know,more powerful than them are
telling them the truth.
It's just, it's just ridiculous.
And, um, I, I kind of disagreewith you, jordan, a little bit
on the you know, live and letlive, because with the lgbtq

(27:38):
plus community they can'treproduce at all.
And so in a lot of ways andwe're we're seeing this and it's
not, it's not covert right now,it's it's overt they have to
recruit and it's like really,really disgusting and that's
just in like the last and that'sjust in like the last seven,

(27:58):
eight, nine years.
If you go back to, if you goback before, then you're in and
you talk to some people in thehomosexual community, just gay
or lesbian.
We're not going to add anyother letters.
There's a ton of stories aboutbeing groomed, really, really by

(28:19):
older men, and you know it'slike live and let live, but then
you're doing this.
It's, it's really strange.
The whole, the whole LGBTQ pluscommunity was built off of the
idea of pedophilia Wow.
And there's a whole bunch oflike sexual revolution stuff
going back to the 50s and 60s.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
And to make, just to just to clarify if my, if the
way I describe that was more ofa live and let live, I think
it's on the parameters of notinvoking potential issues to
yourself and or your familybecause I did and I and I.
I know what you're talking aboutand I know that that's always a
lot of the when you have likeLGBT protection style, like,

(29:07):
especially, there was oh my gosh, I forgot it was like an
assembly meeting where they weretalking about something with
protection of the kids, but theyhad some activists from those
groups that were opposing of itbecause of the past practice is
how they were stating it ofolder men, like because their
first experiences in a gayrelationship was when they were

(29:30):
younger, so they would have beenessentially like under the age
of 18, right, and then that'sthis, like you know, accepted
practice to a certain extentwithin that community.
Now, I don't think that that'sappropriate because it doesn't
work along any lines and anadult is an adult and a kid is a
kid period to me.
So, and I understand whatyou're saying.
So I just wanted to clarify.
I don't mean live and not livelike, yeah, you can go ahead and

(29:52):
practice whatever you think isappropriate, because on the end
of that meaning, if there'sanything that involves children
and or outside of your ownpersonal space, I'm not for that
either, because that's, in fact, a lot of things that are that
are problematic as far as, like,grooming standards and things
like under those, uh, yeah,those issues.
So no, and I and I hear whatyou're saying I wish I could, um

(30:13):
, I wish I could remember whatthe assembly meeting was about,
because the premise was talkingabout like public school safety
and basically being able to talkto parents, and they had like
activists saying like, oh,because it's either racist or
it's, you know, gender bias orsexuality issues and all that
stuff, and it's like, no, theprinciple is that the families

(30:36):
should be informed of what theirstudents are doing, regardless
of their association.
And I mean, you know, I can getinto how ridiculous I think when
kids state things, but I don'twant to drown out because I feel
like that's talked about that alot on the on the shows here.
But, um, you know, and that isthe, that's the hard part, right
, because there's like thisconstant line in the sand of
like, you know, if I say, oh,you can do whatever you want, as

(30:58):
long as're saving yourself,that literally means you not
impacting other people, you know, and that.
And that doesn't really followin line with, I feel like, as
far as what is being projectedas the community standard when
it comes to involvement withminors and stuff with that.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
So my, my thought process on the live and let live
is it's a little bit naivebecause we are, we would be
ignoring the existence of evil,right.
So evil doesn't stop itself, soit must be stopped.
I think one of the reasons whywe're in such a terrible spot as

(31:36):
a nation is because a lot ofpeople adopted the live and let
live Right.
So one of the like I get askedthis all the time like, oh,
you're just spreading hate onsocial media, you're part of the
problem, you're this, you'rethat, and I'm like, I'm actually
part of the solution.
Like, I don't think youunderstand that if I didn't
enter the fight and a lot oflike, the, the, the peers that I

(32:00):
run with didn't enter the fight, social media would be, would
would be, would be rampant withthis like woke leftist, marxist
ideology, and it would gounchecked.
It would totally go unchecked.
And so, like my, my enteringinto this battle on accident,
but I've taken, like, I've takenfull responsibility, uh, for

(32:24):
really mistakes that, um, andproblems that I didn't create.
But I, I have to, I have tostep up and do it because, um,
we're just saying like, live andlet live, like, oh, you, you go
, do you?
I'm going to do me Like votingdoesn't matter, because whatever
god's in control and I think Idon't know I've got so many

(32:46):
thoughts on that, on god'ssovereignty versus our will it's
uh yeah I hear that a lot.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
I hear that a lot from a lot of um boomers.
Uh, you know, it's like god'sin control, like yeah, but you
can still make decisions, youcan still vote.
And I want to say theimportance of voting Because I
hear that a lot here inCalifornia with friends who are
more right-wing right.
Well, why vote?
It doesn't even matter,california's always going to be
Democrat.
I'm like, no, you need to vote,you need to put your vote in.

(33:14):
You need to go to the pollingbooths.
I mean, I grew up in a militaryhome and why I'm so big on that
is because I saw what my dad hasbeen through and what his
special forces teams wentthrough and the men that he lost
.
And he was in Vietnam.
I mean, he had a 22 plus careeras a Green Beret, you know, and
the price of freedom and whatthis country was bought on and

(33:37):
the blood that was shed so thatwe can be here and that people
can worship Satan or beChristian or be atheist, or be
trans, be lesbian or gay.
That all was fought so hard forfor people to have the right to
live this way.
So, yes, you know what.
Get out and vote.
You need to vote.
Your voice needs to be heard,you need to say what you believe

(33:57):
in and I think with the morepeople that start standing up
kind of like you and others andI would say even myself at times
opposing what we believe andwho we're voting for, that has
influence.
I always say there's alwaysthose closet hiders, you know,
the ones that kind of hide inthe shadows.
They're like I don't know, youknow, but they're going to vote,
you know they're going to votefor Trump or whatever.

(34:17):
You know.
It's like don't be afraid tosay what you're going to vote
for, man.
I mean, you have a right to saythat, you know.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
So girls are posting their OnlyFans link shamelessly,
but full-blown men aren't.
They don't have the balls, thestones, to post that they're
voting for Trump.
That's what's wrong withAmerica right now is that dudes
are weak.
They're like oh, I don't, youknow, I don't want to.

(34:45):
You know, lose friends or evenlose a job or whatever the job
one kind of makes sense, butalso not really, because you
could be the first and it couldjust start a whole wave of
people going in that direction.
Here's a perfect example MilkBoys, kyle Forgeard, the Full
Send podcast.
They had Trump on the Full Sendpodcast I think a year ago or

(35:09):
two years ago, and now Trump isgoing on Logan Paul's podcast.
He's going on a ton of otherstuff.
Like there's so manycelebrities and content creators
, youtubers that are standing upand I don't think full send was
necessarily like the first, butthey were like a big part of

(35:29):
that momentum shift.
It's like, oh, actually we canmake it cool to support trump,
we can make it a thing now andand so like, just be first, just
have some stones and go for it.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, yeah, I think.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
I think that that's, it's a, it's a reflection of the
time period that we're in.
You know, I mean, I feel like,yeah, growing some stones is a
is a good way to put it.
And you know, I think that themore excuse me the more times
people speak out and like youshouldn't, you know, like look,

(36:10):
if you're afraid to like tellpeople that you work with or
you're around, like you have aconservative value system, like
that's the scary thing to let go.
You know, like that shouldn't bea problem and honestly like,
and if you disagree, like that'sfine too.
You know, but like, don't beafraid to do it, don't get put
in a box, don't get told what todo If you don't believe in it

(36:31):
or you think it's wrong.
Like, stand up and I agree withyou, like, and that's, it's
something that I feel it's like.
You know, like, let's say,post-world War II, right,
everyone's like patriotic andyou know all about work.
You know, and I'm sure there'splenty of examples I'm just
giving a generalization of thetime period and I wasn't alive

(36:53):
at that time so I didn't get toexperience that but I feel like
I grew up around a family thatwas very much that way and like,
doing your civic duty, standingup for what is right.
You know, like, don't be afraidto like, if something's wrong,
call for what it is or try tointervene and stop it Right.
That was kind of like the moralfoundation I feel like I had.
And I feel like, as I've gottenolder, you know, and I even

(37:22):
like saying like I'm not tryingto backtrack what I was saying
about.
Like you know, you could dowhat you want to do.
You know, I mean, I feel like,to a certain extent, that is
part of the freedom in thiscountry, but I also feel like we
have civic duty and we have to.
You know, I don't know, like,as a man, like I feel, like I
look, I mean, should I dedicatedmy life's work to helping
people?
You know what I so like, at theend of the day, you know

(37:42):
whether that means, politically,I agree with you or disagree,
like that shouldn't be a problemIf I see you do something, or
vice versa, that's wrong.
To stand up and say something,you know, and that goes across
the board, and there's a bunch.
You know, I just think, likewe're on that pendulum, swift.
You know the saying is likehard times make strong men,
strong men make good times, goodtimes create weak men.

(38:04):
Like I think we're in that goodtimes, weak men scenario right
now, and it doesn't mean that itcan't get better.
You know, I don't want to gofull doom and gloom on
everything, because it can justbe something as simple as people
standing up for what theybelieve in, you know, and if
that moral foundation is like afoundation of family, god and
country.
I don't think standing up inthat way is problematic, truly,

(38:27):
you know, now people will saylike, oh, that's a you know
triggering words, or you cancall what you want to call it.
I think it's a fundamental moralfoundation that's led us to be
in one of the greatest countriesthat have ever existed, and I
think that continuing that trendwill only put us in a better
position moving forward, eventhough it feels right now that
we swayed a little bit, or a lotof it, depending on who you're

(38:48):
asking.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
I think it really started when everyone decided to
be politically correct, butthere was only a few of us that
were actually politicians, so wedidn't actually have to be
politically correct, like, wecould have just said whatever we
wanted, guys.
We could have used the wordretarded, we could have kept

(39:10):
using the word fag.
We could have we could have doneit all Like we weren't
politicians back then we couldhave done it, but going, going
back to voting.
So I'm from Washington state,which is one of the probably
most depressing statespolitically.
It's a gorgeous state, it's anoutdoor man's dream.

(39:33):
But the conservatives in thatstate, they have bought the lie
that their vote doesn't matterand so they don't vote.
But I looked at the numbers andif, if and this is a pipe dream
.
So you know it's really hard toget 100 percent participation.
But if 100 percent of peoplevoted it would be way closer

(39:56):
than people thought.
And I bet you that trend is thesame in Oregon, california, new
York not Chicago, but Illinois,some of these like really
really Colorado.
I bet to some of these reallyreally blue states where if we
got more participation it wouldbe a lot closer than people

(40:19):
thought.
There was a.
There was a video I sawrecently that described what
could happen if we got rid ofthe electoral college, and it
wasn't necessarily that the USwould just go blue because
there's not more Democrats thanthere are Republicans.

(40:39):
In fact it's very even if youlook at the registration, in
fact, the growing number ofpeople right now is independents
.
I think there's like 20 to 30percent independents, depending
on what stat you look at, and so, like, the country is coming
more towards the middle than youthink.
But if we did and I'm notsaying I want this, I'm saying

(41:03):
it was kind of a fun exercise tothink about but if we did go to
just a popular vote, that meanseveryone vote actually does
matter, right.
And so, instead of just goingto swing states, right, I think
Trump in 2020, I think he wentto Wisconsin like 20 times in a

(41:23):
month in October Like I was justlike crushing, he's trying to
win that state at all costs.
But if, if, like there was achance to pick up a ton of votes
in Seattle or LA or, you know,chicago or whatever he, he would
go there and every vote wouldmatter and I feel like there
would be more of a turnoutbecause, like right now,

(41:47):
especially in California, oregon, washington, like the West
Coast, like it makes sense whypeople would think that your
vote doesn't matter, right, likeI understand the process.
But then if you extrapolate thatout to you know, tens or
hundreds of thousands of peopleand they all think that their
vote doesn't matter, then itreally doesn't matter.
But if we can figure out how toswitch that mindset of you.

(42:10):
Know, I'm going to write on apiece of paper and submit it.
It's not that hard, right?
It's not like we're asking youto, like, engage in trance
warfare or storm Normandy beachor, you know, go into fricking
Baghdad and go house to house.
We're asking you to fill out apiece of paper, right, that's

(42:30):
it's.
I feel like it's not that hard.
And so people like people wastelike four to five hours a day
on Netflix.
They can waste, you know, anhour to go to the voting booth
and go vote and if we get a lotof participation, it can change
the country.
Here's here's a really goodexample the.
The Arizona primary just endedand for primary votes for Senate

(42:55):
, carrie Lake was running.
She won the primary but secondplace was Sheriff Lamb and
combined they got about 580,000votes.
On the Democratic side they got430 something thousand showed

(43:16):
greater numbers for Republicansthan Democrats, which is amazing
.
There's a whole bunch of getout the vote initiatives that
are happening.
Turning Point Action has one.
Send the Vote is another one toswamp the vote.
There's a ton of these outthere.
But the point is is that if,like these, these voter turnout

(43:39):
initiatives actually work reallywell and if we just kind of go
based on the trends, kerry Lakeis most likely going to win
Arizona in November, which wouldbe a huge win If we picked up a
seat in the House.
That would be unbelievable, andthat is actually happening all
over the country in Georgia, inPennsylvania, in Wisconsin, in

(44:01):
Michigan.
There's even stuff happening inWashington state that I know of
just because I'm from there.
So I'm still tied to the comms.
But your vote matters and evenif you're going to lose, fill
out the piece of paper and go tothe polls.

(44:21):
Yeah, yeah, mail it in vote.
On day vote, early absenteeballot, whatever it is, just
make sure you get it.
The Democrats and I'm sorry tomake this like super political,
but I'm just the the theDemocrats religion is voting and
they're doing their religionbetter than the the Democrats'

(44:42):
religion is voting and they'redoing their religion better than
the right.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
That's the best way I've ever heard that put.
Actually, it really is.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
It really is.
How do we reach this timeperiod where you don't even have
to show an ID to vote?
I mean, you can't even buy asix-pack of beer without showing
your ID.
But you can help pass.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Buy a six pack of beer without showing your ID,
you know.
But you can help us about thatchanges everything.
You can't buy beer, alcohol,you can't buy Zins.
You can't buy Zins without anID.
You can't get a job, you can'tget an airplane, you can't do
any of this stuff Like it's allit's but it's all racist, you
guys.
It's racist now to get a jobApparently.
Oh, that's right, my bad, damnthis dude.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
It's almost, you know it's.
You know, when I sit back andtry to.
You know, one thing we learn inworking in the fire service,
right, is when we go on scene tohelp people, whether it's a
fire or a big car accident orsomething major going on, you
know you have to try and look atthings, especially when you're

(45:43):
in a leadership position, as,say, a company officer which is
a captain, you're over that fireengine, the crew, right, you're
trying to look at it from likethe 30,000 foot level, right,
instead of the, you know, the 10foot level, where you know
you're just moth to flame,fighting fire.
You're trying to see everythingthat's going on around you,
what's happened, what's thebigger picture, what's the
potential for this incident toget worse?

(46:05):
Right, and that's how I'vestarted, kind of looking at our
country, I'm like let me take astep back here and see what's
going on.
And when you open that lens,you kind of start looking and
you're like yo is like bad, goodand good, bad.
Now I'm kind of tripping hereLike things have changed so much
.
But, with that being said, itseems like and maybe I'm wrong,

(46:27):
gentry, but it seems likethere's kind of a shift coming.
I, you know, I'm mixed.
I'm African-American and white,my dad's white, mom's
African-American.
And I will say that a lot ofthe family that I know and I've
talked to that areAfrican-American historically
just voted Democrat, becausethat's what you do, that's what
we do as African-Americans youvote Democrat, and this is the

(46:50):
first time I think I've everheard them say I'm voting for
Trump.
I was like wait, what?
What's happening here?
Are you guys serious?
Because before it was likeright, what's happening here?
Are you guys serious?
Because before it was likeright, it's like you said Trump
is Hitler, all this crazy stuff,he's racist.
And now there's just like it'salmost like it's gotten a little
bit so out of hand where peopleare like, hey, we need to reel

(47:12):
this back in a little bit, justa little bit.
And you're looking at his pollnumbers when Sleepy Joe was
still running for president.
It's like yo, this guy's, he'sgoing to win.
Dude, this is, this isridiculous, right.
And then, of course, theyforced Kamala on us and now like
I don't know, gentry, you're,you're, you're very well versed
in politics, more than I am.

(47:32):
But some of these polls thatI'm seeing, now that Harris is
now coming up and pretty closeto Trump.
I'm like how she didn't evenget 1% of the vote when she was
going for president.
I mean, what's her famoussaying Unburden what has been.
I think I saw like a fourminute video of that same line
spoken in the last three years,over and over, in every single

(47:55):
speech.
It's wild dude single speech.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
It's wild dude.
So kamala harris is an enigmathat I don't fully understand
why she's so popular.
I know that she is and I cansee the path right.
Yeah, uh, two weeks ago she wasrated one of the worst vice
presidents of all time and nowshe's polling better than trump,
like it doesn't.
It doesn't make any sense.
The other thing which is reallyinteresting hear me on this when
she says be unburdened by whathas been, it sounds like word

(48:31):
salad, it sounds like she'sretarded, but it's actually a
Marxist dog wrestle, becausewhat she's saying is that she
doesn't want to be burdened bywhat has been America.
And I'm not trying to come upwith a conspiracy theory.
I'm going off of what JamesLindsay is saying.

(48:51):
I don't know if you guys followJames, but he's a fantastic
follow on Twitter, one of thesmartest people when it comes to
like the whole Marxist movement.
He's saying that that's like aMarxist dog whistle and if you
actually look at some of thestuff that she wants to do, like
take away all guns, she wantsto let everyone in the country
and give them a citizenship,which is insane.

(49:13):
She's essentially co-signed allof Joe Biden's policies, which
is nuts.
And there's, there's, it's allmedia hype, it's all skewed
polls.
To be honest, I even saw someof the data on some of the polls
and they pulled.
I think it was like 800 peopleon on the left and 500 people on

(49:37):
the right, and then like 300people in the middle and it was
pretty even as far as theresults go.
But, like, if you pull morepeople on on the left, you're
going to get a skewed poll.
Like, if I go post it on myInstagram, are you voting for
Trump or Kamala?
I'm going to get a hundredpercent for Trump and I'm like

(49:57):
oh, look, it's all this, all, solike that that stuff like
doesn't, doesn't matter, she'spolling worse, with some of the
people who pulled really wellfor jordan, biden, like the
black community and hispanicsand all this kind of stuff, and
it's all skewed polls becausethey're not actually comparing
it to 2020.
They're just showing the pollsand saying, oh, she's better

(50:19):
than trump on these things.
It's like, yeah, but she's likeshe's actually going downhill.
So it's.
It's really interesting.
She also has no plan for us.
None at all.
No, absolutely not.
In fact, this is reallyinteresting.
Most people don't go topolitical websites to see what
people are saying Right, they,they just like go other

(50:40):
political websites to see whatpeople are saying.
They just go listen to theinterviews and stuff like that.
Trump, on his website, has alot of plans.
I think if he gets a reallygood administration he'll be
able to execute a lot of it,because that's what he did in
his last administration.
There was some stuff that hecouldn't do because Schumer and
Nancy Pelosi were being butts,but on her website there's no

(51:03):
policies.
It's donation links and jobopenings, that's it.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Are you surprised?
Though?
I'm not surprised at that atall I feel like her slogan could
be fast forward.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Sorry, joe Biden had policies on his website.
It more like trump sucks.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
that's what his policy was, but it was still on
his website it was like,everything that has been done,
we're just going to do theopposite.
July 2020, yeah, yeah, joebiden.
2020 it's, it's the.
It's so crazy, you know,because I mean like and I don't,
you know, I don't know if youguys want to go into that, but
like, basically we just watchedlike a low grade coup take place

(51:46):
and a absolutely undemocraticprocess of electing you know and
again as the VP.
Like it is what it is, but likethey didn't throw any other
candidates, like they didn'tthrow any other candidates.
They just everyone called forJoe to step down and then all of
a sudden she's the one and wecan get into the conspiracy of
all all that.
You know how he grew like eightinches overnight after COVID

(52:13):
and all that fun stuff, but youknow, I just, I just yeah, it's
the weirdest video ever and Itried to like want to believe
that it was perspectivedifferences.
I'm like no dude.
He's like six inches tallerthan her and she's wearing heels
and he has no gimp when hewalks.
That's not him, but anyway, uhjim carrey dude, this ain't jim
carrey, you never know, younever know.

(52:34):
I look at this point I wouldn'tbe shocked, but you know the
whole thing with, like herpulling high and all that stuff.
It's like the day she announcedthat she was going to do it,
she got like eighty two milliondollars which they basically
transfer the PAC funding overfrom Joe Biden's name to hers.
But everything was look at howmuch money she raised in less
than 24 hours.
It's like come on, you know, ok,like at some point this

(52:58):
silliness has to stop.
But then it's like you'reasking a question to a system
that is already propagated byabsolute silliness, in my
opinion, you know.
So, you know, I'm not surprisedat it.
I'm not surprised if shedoesn't answer one question.
Logically, I'm not surprised ifthere's no game plan other than
what they'll probably do withthe way things have been going
over the last week and a half.
I wouldn't be surprised if theyput out something that said

(53:21):
we're just going to doeverything opposite of the
project 2025 says, because thatseems to be such a hot button
topic with you know, like, ooh,they're going to do all this
stuff, you know, and which isnot even what's endorsed by
Trump or on his website as faras plans.
So I'm not even giving creditto any of that, you know.
And they're like, well, 140people that worked under the

(53:42):
Trump administration may havebeen associated with the think
tank, right from Heritage Group,and it's like, yeah, but that's
like saying that when the GreenNew Deal came out, everyone
that worked on that was going toabsolutely push everything on
the Green New Deal, you know, Imean.
So it's like it's semantics ofscare tactics and that's pretty
much all they have.
You know they have that andthey have, look, we have this

(54:04):
half and half female candidate,you know who.
All in all honesty, you knowit's like, look, whatever
nationality is, that's great,right.
It's ironic that you neverheard about her being black up
until four years ago, but, youknow, ironic nonetheless, you
know.
And as for like, you know tim,you're talking about like with
african-american community,there has been a lot of stuff

(54:25):
that I've seen, like you know,just posts and things, just, you
know, like little instances oflike, hey, we're talking about
it, you know, and it was kind ofjust like it was.
It was interesting seeing theperspective of, even though
maybe have been a lifelongDemocrat, you're like, dude, I'm
not voting for that lady, youknow.
Not to mention like the sameperson who, like, got hyped up
for incarcerating thousands ofpeople on bullshit marijuana

(54:48):
policy charges, was also talkingabout smoking and listening to
Dr Dre and Tupac back in the day.
So it's like you have just like, if hypocrite was a face, you
have someone that falls in suitin that very well, and I hope my
hope is is that the Americanpeople can see past that, you

(55:10):
know, and it's going to come atpeople like you, gentry, posting
stuff up that the mainstreammedia is not going to post and
having the opportunity to runshit in the comment section,
which I love.
I hear you said that earliertim.
I love reading it because it'slike and I used to like I
wouldn't call myself a troll,but I used to like try to like
ask questions that I thoughtwere like well, you're not

(55:32):
answering, you're not, you know,you're making a blanket
statement.
How do you really feel about it?
I'm trying to be creative inthat way and obviously you run
into people that just are like,well, you're a racist, I'm like,
yeah, dude, I'm racist.
Okay, you know.
Like, come on, like this islike we're childish at this
point.
But you know, I think thatmoving forward is like
eventually, there's going to beenough just crazy crap out there

(55:53):
that people are just gonna belike look, whether you like
trump or you don't, you're.
We got to change the trajectoryof where this is going, and I
think that, in my opinion,that's the only suitable choice
to, if you don't like how thingshave been going, that'll be the
first move to changing it up.
And or you know, at least inyour general surroundings, or if
you care about the country,where the country's leading yeah

(56:16):
.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
I remember my dad always telling me when I was
younger when you vote, are youbetter off now than you were
four years ago?
It's simple, right, and I'vethrown it out there a few times
and people get.
You'd be surprised at responsesWell, this and this is racist.
That's not what I asked.
Are you better off now than youwere four years ago?
You can't tell me in this, theway, in the state our country is

(56:40):
in right now, that our countryas a whole is better off.
I mean, dude, I have a ChevyExpress van that I drive, I
throw my surfboards in there 30gallon tank.
It costs me almost $200 to fillthat thing up $200.
My wife drives a FordExpedition 30 gallon tank.

(57:03):
Same thing.
Dude, it's wild.
Groceries are going up.
You're seeing people strugglingand it's like yo, we're
crushing the middle and lowerclasses here.
Is anybody going to come inhere and fight for us?
Save the day?
What is going on here?
Because it feels like it'sgoing to eventually be.
You're going to have the havesand the have-nots.
There's going to be no middleclass.

(57:24):
It's going to be wiped out.
It's like what, what is goingon here?
That's why I always say I'mlooking from this view like
something's not adding up here.
Man, like how can you go outhere and blatantly lie and say
bidenomics is the best thingthat's ever happened to this
country?

Speaker 3 (57:40):
I would like someone to just explain what Bidenomics
is, because you can't.
There's nothing that explainsit.
It was a rhetorical statement,but you hear that term.
Bidenomics it's like dude, it'slike separation of power.
Basically, you're like push thehave and the have nots in a
further separate direction,direction wipe out the middle
class, because there's going tobe a few that stick to the top

(58:03):
and the rest are going to followthe bottom, you know, and but I
think that that's like anagenda thing, though that's what
I, you know.
I think that we're gettingpushed in that way on purpose,
because we want an expansion ofgovernment, more government
control and all that kind ofstuff, which I don't want to get
conspiracy stuff, know, butlike that's what I truly believe
is happening and we're kind ofseeing it play out.

(58:23):
But maybe, going back to whatyou said earlier about, you know
, at the end of the day, a lotof times it is like good versus
evil and you know, we kind ofsee that in many facets, you
know, and I think governmentcontrol has been one of them,
and it doesn't mean that all ofit's bad, it just means there's
a lot of parts of it that needto be changed, in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Totally, and I posted about this when it happened.
But there was a really bigSupreme Court ruling that
trended for a few days.
I wish people would dig into ita little bit more, but it was
the Chevron doctrine, theChevron deference, that got
overturned.
That is a really big thing.

(59:06):
So essentially what that saidis that the Chevron doctrine was
in place for like 40, 50 yearsand essentially what it said is
if Congress passed a law thatwas vague, ambiguous which most
laws are right If there was athree-letter agency that had
jurisdiction over that, theywere able to interpret and

(59:29):
enforce the law.
So now that the Chevrondeference has been overturned,
what that means is that thepower goes back to Congress and
it doesn't.
It's not held in the EPA, tsa,irs, all this kind of stuff, and
so nothing has really happenedwith it yet.
But that government control thatyou're talking about just went

(59:52):
back to Congress, which is agood thing, because now those
people will supposedly they'resupposed to be our
representatives and we haveelection coming up, so we can
actually vote in the people thatwe want to be in there to
interpret and enforce, you know,the laws.
So, like the, the reason whythis even got brought up is
because there was a?

(01:00:12):
Uh, there was fishing boats,and I think it was either Alaska
or California, but they werehaving to, um, pay a thousand
dollars to have someone from theEPA on their boat every day to
make sure that they were up topar, and they were like we can't
really afford to do this.
That's a ridiculous ask.
Why is this a thing?

(01:00:33):
Why do you have the authorityto do this?
And then they just brought itup to the Supreme Court, and so
now a lot of these organizations, these three-letter orgs, don't
have the power that they usedto have, which is honestly
unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
That's interesting.
I honestly didn't realize.
I didn't know that it went backto Congress.
I mean.
I remember like kind of hearingabout that and reading and
seeing some clips on that, but Ididn't know that, I did not
know that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
How long ago was this really?

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
That's like a month ago, so it was.
It was the same day that Trumpgot off on one of his cases, so
that's probably why it gotpushed down to the bottom.
Plus, yeah, the left isscreaming about it, saying oh,
like you know, now theenvironment's in trouble and
it's like, no, not really.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Yeah, no dude.
Hey, real quick, gentry, areyou using your um?
You use your computer, right,gentry?
Let's try.
I'm gonna try something.
Can you turn the volume downthat?
That might be what thatfeedback is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Just a little bit yeah, let me, let me put in my
airpods, here see if that works.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Yeah, because I can get uh, sorry about that man.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Oh, it's good, I'll just I'll let you be the audio
engineer, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Cause, like we're talking, I'm like, dude, where
is this feedback coming from?
I'm looking at all my settings.
I'm like what in the world?
Um, no, dude, I, you know,that's why I like bringing.
We like bringing people on here, gentry, such as yourself,
because to me, you know, that'swhy I like bringing.
We like bringing people on here, gentry, such as yourself,
because to me, you know, it isthe everyday person that can
make such a huge difference, andthat's why I like celebrating

(01:02:16):
everyday people.
Right, we don't need to look.
You can look to sports figuresor politicians.
No-transcript.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Um, I have a little media company called breakaway
USA.
Um, I haven't done a lot withit recently.
Um, I'm letting the guys kindof run it, but I think they're
doing a pretty good job.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Yeah, no, Cause I think you didn't.
You you interviewed.
You were interviewing people,right?
Yeah, yeah, Cause I remember Ilistened to one that was pretty
cool, I think.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
It might've been one of thelast episodes you did, but it
was somebody who used to beeither trans or in the gay
community.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Yeah, yeah, so that was, uh, that was Enrique.
Um, he's a friend from SanDiego.
Uh, he goes to awaken churchand he was like one of the most
well-known successful dragQueens in the in the San Diego
area and he grew up Christian,he grew up Catholic and just
went away from his faith like ina huge way and was accepted by

(01:03:34):
the, the drag queen community,the gay community, and his life
was super empty and just a messreally drugs, alcohol, whole
bunch of random weird sex and so, um, he felt this call to God
to go back to church and hestumbled into a church called

(01:03:57):
the Waken church down in SanDiego and instead of like
pushing him away, they were likeno, come in, like we, we got
you.
And then he, just he, he keptcoming and he kept coming and he
, um, like obviously they, youknow, had some, some guards up
because you know, you're, you'regoing to use the right bathroom

(01:04:17):
, you're, you know, not going tobe around kids, you know all
this kind of stuff which makessense because you're not going
to put the congregations, youknow people in danger.
But they still wanted to loveon him and now he's like a
leader in the church and he'stotally forsaken that whole
lifestyle and, um, they, they,they put on plays and stuff like

(01:04:38):
that.
They're, they're really intothe arts and so he's like the
lead role on all this kind ofstuff he has.
Uh, um, he's got a clothingcompany now and like he's doing
really well and it was I.
I love.
I love stories like thatbecause, like a lot of times
we'll, you know, christians willlook at the people who are
living that lifestyle and she'slike, oh, they're too far gone.

(01:05:01):
But there's really no onethat's too far gone for god.
You know, we can't necessarilylike I, I feel like it.
I feel like, in a lot of ways,you can't necessarily convince
somebody to do something,because if you can convince them
into it, then that means theycan be convinced out of it.
Right, it's got to be like aheart posture and something that
they're like you know theirhearts change on or they're

(01:05:23):
really passionate about.
So I, I loved, I loved doingthat podcast.
That was last year.
I stopped doing it.
I actually had an ex-girlfriendthat told me to stop doing it
because I was interviewing toomany women, Sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
Well, hey look, now he's an ex.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Yeah, yeah, because I remember listening to that and
it impacted me.
It was encouraging, right?
Not that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
I've done the things that he did.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
But it just shows you that the Lord can touch anyone.
He can change anybody.
And I believe that the moreinfluence we have which is kind
of what we're talking about, atleast on this episode a lot of
standing for what you believe,standing up for what's right and
what you know is right, andyour, your faith in your, your
morals, that has an impact onpeople, because reality is, the
more and more people that I talkto, we bring on the podcast,

(01:06:17):
and I see it even when I'mworking on duty as a firefighter
everyone's searching,everyone's lost.
Why are we on this piece ofdirt floating through space and
time?
What am I here for?
What was I, bro?
I've, we did a first respondersnight at hope and I spoke and
gave my testimony and all thisstuff and it's almost like I
I've told us so many times but I, I tried everything Like I did.

(01:06:38):
I really went for it.
I had a great time.
You know I have minor success ina way, so I can have the funds
to go do what I want to do.
I've owned my homes and otherthings and cars I've always
wanted and traveling, and at theend of the day I'm like this is
it?
Is this what everyone istalking about?
I mean, dude, and I'll tell youwhat the whole thing of like

(01:07:01):
sleeping around that just causesmore drama.
It's just more problems for you.
I'll just bring that straightto the forefront, and it hurts
people, you know.
And having that truerelationship with the Lord and
making it, like I said, arelationship and it's between
you and Him, I mean it's whatchanged me and it can change the
hardest of hearts.
It changed Enrique and to me.

(01:07:23):
I'm seeing a lot more things onsocial media and posts.
It seems like a lot more peopleare starting to turn towards
the Lord right now, which isgreat, because there is just not
just in our country, but itseems like the whole world is a
little bit out of control,especially again after we
watched the opening ceremony forthe Olympics.
I mean, again, I was shocked,dude.

(01:07:43):
I was like I can't believe thisis being shown right now.
This is crazy.
But you know, to have thatrelationship with the Lord and
to see that in people like youand my other friends and Jordan,
and seeing people grow and bebold, it encourages me, it makes
me want to be like, hey, youknow what I need?
To start standing up and doingmy thing, and what I want to say

(01:08:04):
to people is like stand forwhat you believe.
If there's people that arestanding for the Paris Olympics
and saying you know they can dowhat they want and show all that
, it's like, well, we stand forwhat we believe.
We need to show them.
We can stand firm in our faithand, yes, we can not agree with
you.
We still call to love you, butwe're going to tell you like
that ain't right.
And it's hard when you're heldaccountable.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Nobody wants to be wrong, you know that I tell you
what, if the satirical setup wastowards, like, a Muslim
religion, that would not havegone over very well.
No, you know, and that's kindof like the double edged sword
of the kind of the Christianviewpoint, right, it's like you

(01:08:46):
know you're supposed to turn theother cheek or be accepting.
You know there's also, I think,like you also need to stand to
turn the other cheek or beaccepting.
You know there's also, I think,like you also need to stand up
for what you believe too.
You know, I know we talked alittle bit about that, so I
don't drone on too much, but Ithink, like what you're saying,
sam, is like there's, there's alot, of, a lot of change in that
way that I think is beingpublicized in a good way.
You know, as far as and thenI'm not saying that you know I

(01:09:09):
don't want to like tell peoplehow to to or what to believe in,
but I think that having a basein like a christian, you know,
or moral, fundamental approachin religion is is a good start
and not being afraid to talkabout that.
And I think that you know peoplepost and like it's so random

(01:09:29):
that you said that, because I'venoticed, like in the past, like
week, there's been like there'smore things like scrolling
through, like my reels and stuffof like just prayers and you
know, just like reaching out topeople.
It's just like a lot of goodstuff, you know, and I think
seeing that you know kind oflike energizes you, you know,
and it makes you like feel like,hey, you know like there are a
lot of people out there thatthink the same way or maybe

(01:09:52):
close to and maybe you bringingsomething up is the little nudge
they need to change their life.
I mean, thanks for sharing thatstory about the, as you said,
drag queen.
Right, it was down in San Diegoand now it went to a church and
hopefully they're doing awesomeand the church is very
receptive.
And just hearing things likethat I think is very, you know,

(01:10:12):
optimistic and you know thereneeds to be a lot more stuff
like that and I think, now morethan ever cause like I feel like
you turn the television on,it's like everything's doom and
gloom, everything you know, andit's like you know which I jump
on that, watching it all thetime.
So I am not going to say thatI'm like against it because it's
as far as entertainment value.
But at the end of the day, thatentertainment value, what I

(01:10:36):
perceive is that sometimes youknow, like you're saying earlier
, like you know just therhetoric of saying negative
things about one thing and scaretactics, and now is the next
Hitler, and blah, blah, blah,blah, blah.
You know this can perpetuatemore situations like what we
experienced a couple weeks ago.
I have a different, I have alittle bit different thought
process on the shootingsituation, but it doesn't, it

(01:10:57):
doesn't, it doesn't take awaythe fact that it riles people up
in the wrong way and maybe,like that big reset, whether
it's finding religion or faithor whatever your personal
relationship is with God, youknow that can be the reset that
you know can perpetuate theactual change that would benefit
really everybody, you know.
So I guess we're all right oneday at a time, but in the moment

(01:11:22):
, you know there's.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
So, jordan, something interesting you said is that,
like you know, there's a there'sthis, this idea in with what
Jesus said, with turning theother cheek, and it's I've I've
actually looked into this alittle bit and turning the other
cheek actually means commandrespect from the person who hits

(01:11:47):
you.
So back in back in the Romantimes, what they would do is
they would hit you backhandedand that was a sign of
disrespect that you were belowthem, all this kind of stuff.
Because the Romans were kind ofthe on the higher end of the
hierarchy because they hadconquered the, you know, the
Jews.
But if you turn the other cheek, you had to hit him with your,

(01:12:09):
with your forehand, right.
So it's not necessarily like,oh, we're supposed to just lay
down and take it.
It's like, no, we're actuallysupposed to command respect from
that.
So there's there's so much of ofJesus's words that get just
like minced and misused today.
And you know we're supposed tobe, you know, loving like Jesus

(01:12:32):
and all this kind of stuff.
But Jesus really loved thepeople that were like yearning
for him, right, he was superkind to everyone that would go
follow him around and hear himpreach.
But he was he was very strictand harsh with the people who
didn't receive his message right.
He called them brood of vipers.
He called them whitewashedtombs.

(01:12:54):
He told the disciples to dustthe feet off of the town that
they left as they didn't acceptJesus.
He flipped tables in the temple, like.
People are missing that side ofJesus and I think it's probably
one of the biggest misses thatwe like as Christians, that we

(01:13:16):
see we're not supposed to beweak, we're not supposed to like
turn the other cheek like oh,hit me again.
Right, it's more of like a trythat again.
Right, because we're all, we'reall the same in the eyes of God,
right, I'm not saying to gostart a fight, but I'm saying
like, know your place right,know your place there's.
There's also another, anotherthing in Romans right, romans, I

(01:13:38):
think it's Romans, six Romansone where it talks about how
we're supposed to submit to theauthority and you know it, taken
at face value, that makes sense, like, oh, supposed to follow
all the laws and do all thisstuff and not put up a fight
because God put them there.
But I think people are missingwhat kind of country that we

(01:14:01):
live in.
Because back in the Roman timesthey were subjects.
They had to follow the laws.
To follow the laws, like ifthey didn't they would go to
jail, and so, like the way thattheir structure was set up,
that's just how it was.
We're citizens in this country,that means co-ruler, and these
politicians that we vote inthey're not our rulers, they're

(01:14:21):
our public servants, and so weare the rulers of the United
States in a lot of ways.
We elect a representative intogovernment so that we can have
someone that is going to be ourvoice, but we don't elect rulers
.
So, to anybody listening,please, please go understand the

(01:14:47):
difference between a subject,which is what they were in the
Bible and a citizen, which iswhat we are today.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
That's a really good point, and I'm glad you said
that about the term the othercheek, because I feel like I've
used that a couple times overthe years in reference to making
it more sounding submissiveversus what know what.
What's your explanation of whatthat means, which is great
because, like you know, I don'tknow, I don't, I don't like,
anyway, I don't want to get intothat, but it's a good, it's,

(01:15:21):
let's get into it no, no whatI'm saying is that, like you
know, like I don't know, like II don't, I don't like feeling
like I get.
You know, you get pushed aroundlike in certain ways, where it's
like, oh, you can't talk aboutthis, or oh, because of this,
you know, and it's just like youknow, screw off.

(01:15:44):
Like this is what I feel like,and if I'm passionate about it,
like again, like I'm not gonnabeat my sense into you, but I
definitely I'm not gonna backdown off of how I feel, you know
, and I do feel like that,misconstruing, like being a, you
know, I want to say being likea good Christian or a practicing

(01:16:04):
Christian, you know, I justmean like I mean, yeah,
tolerance is something, it's anactual thing and just depending
on where you're, you know,breaking that down of how it's
being relayed is is veryimportant because of the context
of how you're saying it.
But I feel like that term doesget used more as like, oh, turn
the other cheek to being like,you know, allowing people to

(01:16:25):
keep you down or, you know,smack you into place.
I think that was a very goodway to put that and I can't wait
to say that to somebody else,when I hear that, I'm like, well
, did you know, you know, didyou know?

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Yeah, my body did see .

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
My life is like an apple cap, information stuff now
.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
So the other thing too like the Bible is a really
it's a really controversial book, but how the Bible like teaches
us, like what to do, and evenhow it was written, like Jesus
told us or not Jesus told us,jesus told his disciples to go
into different cities and preach, and so we're not just supposed

(01:17:06):
to like stay at home on thecouch and like do a Bible study.
We're, we're supposed to likeget out there and preach the
word Right First to um, what isit?
Uh, frick, I forget it.
I forget what it was.
But, um, essentially, you'resupposed to like go, like small,
to your family, then yourcommunity, then the city and

(01:17:26):
then the nation.
Right, it's like going to allthe world and preach the gospel,
right, but like he's, he'stelling people to go and he's
telling people to get out thereinto uncomfortable situations.
He's not telling people to likejust hang out and hope people
come to your church.
Right, I feel like the church,for for a lot of people it's

(01:17:48):
it's being used in the wrong way.
They're trying to go there toget fed.
I think it's probably gooduntil like month eight, nine or
10 of being a new Christian, andthen you have the Bible and you
are a sovereign human, so youcan read it, and you're not in
Iran or China, so you're notgoing to get thrown in jail for
that.

(01:18:08):
But I feel like the perspectiveshift that I want everyone to
have is that the church is likea really easy on ramp to get
people saved.
You don't have to knoweverything, but you can invite
someone to church because thereis someone who knows more than
you, and it's your pastor.
Hopefully he knows more thanyou.
He's not 100 percent Rightright, I've I disagree with my

(01:18:33):
pastor on several things, but Ibecause he's a human being he's
not going to get it a hundredpercent right, but the, the
local church is one of thegreatest ways for someone who
maybe doesn't know all the allthe right answers to just invite
someone into the community andbe, just, be like a conduit or a

(01:18:55):
connector and just I mean.
So here's, here's, here's whatI did and why I'm so passionate
about this.
There was a church that I Ididn't help start it, but I was
there at the beginning and Ihelped it grow a lot.
We started during COVID, whichwas in Seattle, which was crazy.
I think Seattle had like one ofthe longest periods of COVID.

(01:19:17):
It was like all the way outuntil like 2022, until all the
restrictions were off, which isinsane.
But we started a church inCOVID and I was there like 12
people in the living room, andthen my pastors actually
encouraged me to start postingmore about political stuff after
I went viral, which was amazingbecause so much really good

(01:19:38):
stuff has come of it.
But I kept inviting people tochurch, online and offline, like
wherever I went, I was invitingpeople to church, and this was
like about the same time that Ihad come back to the faith from
kind of like what, tim, what youwere describing where I was
just like out in left fielddoing my own thing, you know,
partying, drugs, women, thewhole nine yards and so like.

(01:20:01):
I wasn't necessarily like, Ididn't have a long like, didn't
have a really good track recordof walking with Jesus, but I
knew that my pastors did, and soI was so impacted by the church
and my life had been changedtremendously because of, like,
the teaching there and gettingclose to Jesus and the thousands
of people that I got to gothrough the doors of my church

(01:20:35):
just my church and I was.
I was encouraging people to goto church, like nationwide, and
so the number could be in thethousands, but there's there's
also dozens and dozens ofstories of people whose lives
were changed because I invitedthem to church.
Let's go and that's.
That's a humble brag right.
That obviously I'm like, butyou can do that too.

(01:20:56):
Anyone listening can do thattoo.
I'm not special, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
And I think, but I was like don't tell your mom,
dude.
No, but I think that's and isit's being able, it's
communicating, it's expressingand being able to, whether it's
you know, you're talking aboutpolitics, religion, whatever you
know like it doesn't take, likeyou don't have to be whatever

(01:21:28):
that in person thinks, is thatspecial thing to be able to
impact others around you.
You know, and I think thatthat's you know kind of.
You know, I know we get toexperience that, whether it's
you know, from doing the podcastor and having you know or just
our jobs in general and life andsounds like yourself.
You know it's like, look, youknow, whatever experience is up

(01:21:48):
until you know, tying in withthat church, especially at that
time during COVID, with therestrictions and everything is
probably very chaotic, but tohave that as the aftermath of
being like able to sit back and,yeah, take the humble brag, of
course, you know, at least putyour name on something where

(01:22:10):
it's like, hey, what I did andhow I influence things helps
people either bring happiness orhappiness to the people around
them.
It's like it's a ripple effect.
You know, and you know, havingthose opportunities with more
people sought out to do that,not realizing that it doesn't
have to be something crazy.
It doesn't.
It could be a little thing,little thing, you know, and then

(01:22:30):
that sets the trajectory for alot of good things to come.
So I, I think that's awesomeand, you know, I I need to start
practicing what I preach more,but I definitely, uh, there's
something to that well, sohere's.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
It could be as easy as like saying oh, like what?
Like what are your plans forthe weekend?
Oh well, you know, saturday I'mgoing surfing or fishing or
whatever, and then Sunday goingto church, going to brunch
afterwards with some people,blah, blah.
It could be as easy as that.
Right, I've invited severalpeople to church just from that,
because, like, oh, church, likewhat church do you go to?
Oh, I went to Hope Village.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
You should come.
Dude, dude, I love it, man, younever know.
Gosh, just planting that seed.
You know, plant the seed, getpeople there, let the Lord do
the rest.
I mean, it's huge.
I know what changed me ispeople that were praying for me,
my parents terrible gentry, butremember my mom was like Tim, I
pray that you don't go to hellevery day.
It's like, mom, this is stillterrible gentry, but I remember

(01:23:31):
my mom was like Tim, I pray thatyou don't go to hell every day.
I was like what do you think ofme?
I'm like geez man, is it?

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
a prayer.
I'll tell you this my mom sentme the movie Flight with Denzel
Washington right, great movieand it was like it was a great
movie movie, but he was justlike self-destructive.
Yeah, and she was like thismovie reminds me of you they're
like well, did I land the plane,or what?

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
yeah don't you love how just brutally honest moms
are, because they love you, dude.
But great, I mean it's.
It just goes along withinviting people, having people
that are praying for you.
It's so important.
It's so important to pray forothers, and I'm with you on that
, man.
I've invited quite a few peopleto go to different Bible studies

(01:24:20):
and church, and even just fromthis podcast it's interesting
when I started talking about myfaith it's been about like two
years now, and before I did Iwas on here talking.
I was like I don't go to church, I don't need any of that.
Blah, blah, blah.
But you can.
What I tell people is you canhear a man who's searching and
struggling, he's trying to findhis way, he's trying to figure

(01:24:40):
out why he's here, you know.
And then I started talkingabout my faith on here.
The more I opened up about it, Iwas shocked by some people that
were messaging me friends andother ones that would hit me up
on either social media or sendme a text, and I was like I had
no idea that you were strugglingwith this or that you were even
a believer at one point, kindof like I was or you're
interested.
It's so crazy when you juststart talking and just tell them

(01:25:03):
hey, this is what the Lord didfor me, this is where I've been.
Come with me, come over here,come check out this church.
You know, come with me, comeover here, come check out this
church.
And I was actually surprisedhow open people were, even to
the point.
We're now on our instagram.
On sundays, I post a verse up,I just put it up on the story
and I will tell you those verses.
That is the most traction, uh,reviews and stuff we get like.

(01:25:24):
The last one did last sundayhad 35 000 views, I think, like
10,000 shares or something.
It was just a simple verse in apicture.
It was crazy.
Yeah, I was just like wait what.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
That's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
Yeah, it's happened a couple of times now that one
had the most traction.
I can't remember which one itwas, but I get the daily verse
off the Bible app, stuff likethat.
And you know, I have a friendwho's who unfortunately just got
diagnosed with some cancer, soI'm sending him stuff and
everything.
I'm like I'm just going to postthis one up, but to me it just
shows you that man, people,everyone's hurting and going

(01:26:00):
through something.
Dude I mean that's why.
It's just, everyone's trying tofigure out their way, man.
We're trying to figure out why.
What is this the purpose?
And realizing that my purposeis being in that relationship
with the Lord has brought somuch peace, so much hope.
It's almost like thatstruggle's kind of gone as far
as being lost, trying to fulfillthat desire, as they say, that

(01:26:23):
God-shaped hole that's in yourheart, that's only filled by
Jesus, but you're filled withother things that are not Him,
that you know you're notsupposed to be doing.
But you go filled with otherthings that are not him, that
you know you're not supposed tobe doing, but you go for it
anyways.
And it's one thing my dadalways told me your flesh will
never be fulfilled.
You're always going to wantmore.
It's never going to be fulfilled.
And another thing, that he toldme is like your reason.

(01:26:43):
I'm trying to remember, I'mjust paraphrasing here, but it
was along the lines of you know,you can't trust your flesh
because your flesh is alwaysgoing to let you down, but your
flesh isn't even going with youwhen you die.
And I was like dang, dude, I waslike my man knows, my man knows
.
Now the last thing I want toask you real quick, gentry, is

(01:27:04):
like, do you think it's yourfaith now that drives you?
What's your motivation behind,like putting these things up in
your life, how your life haskind of turned into what it is
after you know that video wentviral, you know what, what?
What is like kind of motivatingyou to keep going, cause we
have social media.
I have it, dude.
I um, there's a few.

(01:27:26):
There's one account I had I'mnot going to talk about it cause
of San Andy, but we sold it anddid well few.
There's one account I had I'mnot going to talk about it
because of San Andy, but we soldit and did well.
But, dude, social media is work.
It's a lot.
It's a lot to to stay up withthings and you're on it, like
when something happens that's inthe news, that's pretty major,
or something behind the scenes.
When I open up any of my apps,the first thing I see is you.

(01:27:47):
I'm like dude, my guy is on it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Thanks, man, I uh, honestly, it's, it's a really
selfish reason.
Um, I want to have a lot ofgrandkids and I want to have a
ranch.
Uh, I'm like, I want to.
I want to get married, havekids, have grandkids, like the
whole nine yards I know I wantto have a ranch in Wyoming or
Tennessee or somewhere, maybeMontana.

(01:28:12):
Um, and I want to live theAmerican dream.
I love it and I I've gottenprobably closer to 200 million
views on the content that I'veposted over the last four years
and I get messages all the timethat you know, like you've,
you've woken me up, you've,you've gotten me back to church,

(01:28:33):
you've done this, done that,and I, I'm just really
passionate about saving America,because not necessarily that
we're the most moral country,but we're the ones that hold, is
holding everything together.
And the, the, the, the radicalleft, and, and people throw that

(01:28:53):
phrase around all the time andit, it, it's almost like a
nonsensical thing.
It's, it's one of those wordsthat like doesn't have any
meaning, but like when, when.
When I say radical left, atleast I mean like socialists,
marxist people who hate you andare trying to, like, take away
everything that America is right, the American dream, and

(01:29:15):
they've done a decent job withthat the last four years.
And if Kamala gets in, she'sgoing to do a really good job of
taking away what like our, ourlivelihoods and and just the
opportunity to, you know, havelife, liberty and the pursuit of
happiness.
Or, if you read John Locke, thepursuit of property like it's

(01:29:35):
going to be so hard to ownproperty.
It's going to be so incrediblyhard.
And so that's why I'm fightingso hard for Trump.
Not necessarily that he's likethe most moral person.
I'm a huge fan of him.
I could debate anybody onanything, any like lie that he's
, that they're saying about him.
But in my view and Charlie Kirkactually had a really good post

(01:29:56):
about this but in my view it'smore of a it's, it's more of a
chess move than anything.
Right, if we get Trump in, it'sgoing to help.
It's going to help me, it'sgoing to help a lot of people
live the American dream again,right?
So that's why I'm fighting sohard for it, because, I mean,

(01:30:19):
trump's not perfect.
It's pretty obvious.
But he's absolutely hands down100 percent.
The best choice for america.
If you like, um, to keep more ofyour money, if you want to have
safe cities, if you want tohave a border, if you don't want

(01:30:41):
to keep funding endless wars.
Like they're talking aboutraising taxes for the kamala,
for like for kamala, and we'resending billions of dollars
overseas, and I'm like, hang on.
First of all, why are we payingtaxes?
Because you can just print it.
That goes into like monetarytheory, which we don't have time

(01:31:03):
to get into.
But we're also getting taxedout.
The wazoo income tax probablyisn't even legal at this point,
or they're making it legalbecause of endless wars, right,
if you go back to like 1913 andthe Jekyll Island thing and like
the advent of income tax, evenduring the civil war, it's just

(01:31:28):
absolutely insane.
So, like, that's why I'm sopassionate about Trump.
It's not just like I'm in thecult, right.
I do think that there areprobably some people who really
don't know what they're doing.
They're just going along withthe hype, which is fine, right,
there's.
I've always said that there'slike, um, you know, 90% of
people are sheep and then 5% ofpeople are actually awake and

(01:31:51):
then the other 5% arecontrolling everyone else.
So, um, like, but like I canarticulate very well why I'm
fighting so hard and supportingTrump and the next guy after
Trump, and you know, the nextbest candidate after Trump,
because I want to have a ranchand I want to have a lot of

(01:32:13):
grandkids.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
I love it.
I love it, dude.
I love it.
I mean, it is the Americandream man To be real.
I don't see myself retiring inCalifornia.
That is something that I wouldlove to have one day is a lot,
lot more property, openness andland.
So I feel exactly what you'resaying, especially with my wife
being pregnant with our firstchild now, like Jordan, has

(01:32:35):
three kids.
You know, and it's it changesyou man, it changes your thought
process, it changes you knowhow you want to live, where you
want to live, what's the futureof my for my daughter?
And you know, I've talked withthis, with Jordan and some other
people like how in the world ismy daughter going to be able to
afford a home in SouthernCalifornia?
It's almost impossible now.

(01:32:57):
I live in a decent,middle-class neighborhood, but
everything is well over $1.2million.
That's not what thisneighborhood was built for.
It's not supposed to be thatway.
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
On your current firefighter's income, can you
afford the house you live inright now?
Oh how long you have to sayprobably not a lot of our
firefighters.

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
They can't even live in the in the county that we
work in they're two to threehours of work.
We have many that live out ofstate that fly yeah, I mean for
our state.

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
Uh, a firefighter job is full-time, is a lot higher
than most other states, so butthe income is skewed because
everything around it costs justas much.
So it's like if you looked upto see how much like average
firefighters, say, californiamakes, if you're coming from
another state you'd be like, ohmy gosh, they're crushing it out

(01:33:50):
there, but the average cost inthe county that we live in for a
house is 1.2 million dollars.
You know what?
I mean.
So that's just that's, just thepurchase of the home.
So I can assure you that astandard firefighter wage is not
enough to live, at least in therespective county that we work
in.
You know, the only times whereyou hear guys or women that have
bought in the last, you knowit's normally they either have a

(01:34:12):
dual income where theirsignificant other is doing very
well, or they bought 10 plusyears ago, or, like even in
myself, like I purchased a homein 2008 after the economy.
Just, you know nosedove andit's like it's more you.
You know which.
I was fortunate to be in thatsituation because at that point
I had nothing and I scraped intogetting into a house, and you

(01:34:36):
know so looking at people now,especially when we work with,
like you know, newer hires oryounger folks in the in the fire
industry, like I, you know, alot of times I ask you, like you
know, how'd you get that?
How do you have all this?
How have you done it?
And you're like well, I've beendoing this for like just shy of
20 years, you know, and I'veI've done a lot of.
I've done a lot of things to putmyself in the best case

(01:34:57):
scenario.
And I mean don't get me wrong,dude I had fun, I did a lot of
silly stuff and all that, but Ialso was focused on, like,
having a goal.
And now I look at these kidscoming in and I'm like I don't
know how you're going to do it.
Like, can you rent out abasement as your parents house
and not pay anything for 10years?
Then you might have enough toput a down payment on a place

(01:35:20):
that you'll be broke on anywaybecause you have to rent every
room out to try to sustain it.
You know, and and again, I'm not.
I'm not a housing expert.
I do have a little bit ofknowledge in real estate, but
everything's inflated.
Oh my gosh, I'm blanking what'sthe word.

(01:35:40):
I'm trying to say it's high,anyway, it doesn't matter, but
what I'm saying is everything'sinflated across the board.
You know, loan oh my gosh, I'msorry I can't think loan, oh my
gosh, I'm sorry I can't think uh, but I don't know what the fix
is to that other than trying toreshape like economic value for
as a whole.
You know, if we cannot outsourceeverything, we can do things

(01:36:00):
inside our country.
We could limit some regulationsthat hopefully can drive.
You know, everyone's alwaysworried about capitalistic
marketplace and it's like, youknow, the goal isn't to have one
person be the most expensiveand the most powerful.
The goal is to be able togenerate many people that can do
that, which drives actuallydown costs.
And or maybe even you know, thequality of whatever you're

(01:36:22):
trying to purchase, you know.
So it's like we limit that andwe get confused with why we're
in the situation that we're in,you know, and there's a lot of
other influences just incapitalism, you know.
But anyway, I don't know how, Idon't know how people are going
to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
And I don't know, but I'll tell you what, gentry, if
you, if you get a lot of uhacreage, I'll, I'll take two,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
I'll.
I'll buy, you, sell to me.
Dude, I'm in, you know.
So can we build like a compoundin Wyoming or something?

Speaker 1 (01:36:59):
Dude I'd be down as long.
As long as I get a little pondand I put some bass in there,
I'm golden Dude, I love it.
Well, gentry, we're, we wentway over time, but I feel like,
dude, we want to have you backon again because there's so much
more I want to talk to youabout, but it's like we're out
of that time.
But thank you for just comingon here and being open and
honest and chatting with us.
It means a lot, dude, if we'vebeen trying to get you on here
for quite some time, and Ireally appreciate it, man, I

(01:37:22):
really do and, if you don't mind, I would actually like to pray
for you, if you're cool withthat.
Yeah, let's do it, let's do it,man.
Heavenly Father, thank you forthis time that we've had with
Gentry.
Lord, he's sharp, he's smart.
Continue to keep him sharp andsmart and encourage him and keep
him motivated to keep postingand doing the things he's doing
on social media and his otherendeavors.
Lord, father, we pray for ourcountry that you continue to

(01:37:44):
guide us and lead us and get usto a place where we're back, to
where things can kind of benormal.
Lord, we thank you for whatyou've done.
We thank you for for Gentry, inthis time that you've given us.
Lord, bless him and his futurewith his family property,
whatever he's going for, lord,and just guide him.
Thank you for this time inJesus name, amen, amen, gentry

(01:38:05):
you are one heck of a dude, myOne heck of a dude.
my friend, I hope you had a goodtime on here man.
We really appreciate it, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
Thank you, I'm going to send that clip to my mom.
Oh yeah.
Hey, well, I'll send mine.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
You send yours to your mom, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
I appreciate it, man.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
Thank you so much, jantje, see you guys.

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