October Monthly News Review

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
And we're back, live Well kinda, anyways, welcome
back we're back dude, we haven'tbeen here.
We're doing a Well.
I should say I haven't beenhere with you specifically.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I mean I haven't been here with you either.
So I mean I think it's been along time coming and honestly, I
was really excited about today.
I was like oh shit, I know.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
And it's like dude, it's like substitute teachers
are in bro.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
We're here, dude.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
We're doing Heads Up, 7up and Chillin' Exactly, but
today is we're doing the Octobermonthly review.
Yes, sir, tim and Sam aren'there, so I hope you guys are
having a great day.
Love you guys.
Love you guys absolutely, andwe're gonna try to do our best.

(00:57):
Here Turns out again, we have aton of stuff to potentially
talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
You know and we're kinda even talking beforehand
what's the route we're gonna gotoday.
But if anyone can notice,myself and Evan are sporting the
NFL Day.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Got a Steelers fan over here.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
With their juicy matchup against the Rams today.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Oh, no, no, no, that was last week.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Oh my gosh, what are you guys playing today?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
We're playing the Jaguars, which that's gonna be
crazy.
So, oh, that's right.
Yeah, man, the Jaguars aredoing really well this year.
Trevor Lawrence, the AKA thePrince, is.
He's doing exactly what theJacksonville Jaguars drafted him
to do.
He is definitely theircornerstone piece in that
offense.
He's definitely a greatup-and-coming star.

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I think that it's anybody's gameand, honestly, with my team,
the Steelers, they're 4-2, butit's like how the hell are they
4-2?
They have an amazing defense.
Tj Watt, who I'm wearing in hisjersey right now.
He is absolutely amazing.
Honestly, because of him, Ithink we are 4-2.

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He is the pivotal piece in ourdefense, just in our team in
general.
Honestly, I think he's beengetting a great run to be a
defensive player of the year.
I mean, he has more sacks thananybody in the league right now.
Is he leading with sacks?
I believe so.
Yes, again, unless there hasbeen a change recently, but from

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last I checked.
But, that being said, greatdefense.
Our cornerbacks are a littleiffy.
Our defensive backfield is notthat great because we have
problems there, but we have alot of offensive weapons.
We have a bad offensivecoordinator by the name of Matt

(02:46):
Canada and he needs to make somemaple syrup and get the fuck
out of here.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
We need to fire him.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
I'm very much on board with firing Matt Canada.
I am very much on board with usfiguring something else out,
but the thing is we still manageto win games.
We have a lot of great piecesDeontay Johnson, George Pickett
or no George Pickens, and thenKenny Pickett.
Everybody is saying, oh, Idon't know if Kenny Pickett's

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the guy I actually kind of thinkhe is.
Honestly, he's only in hissecond season, but the way that
this guy lights up in the fourthquarter, you want that in a
quarterback.
You don't want someone toshrivel up in the fourth quarter
, you want someone to come backand actually win it for you,
which he's done time and timeagain.
I think that it's like when weget a proper offensive
coordinator and then also if webuild up our offensive line,

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because that's trash right nowtoo.
It's like offensive coordinatorand offensive line are not
great.
Najee Harris hasn't been ableto run the ball as effectively
as we would like him to.
Same with Jaylen Warren.
Honestly, both of them arephenomenal.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I don't know why you guys don't start Warren and run
Najee out of the slot for ashort passing game.
Jaylen Warren, I think, is afantastic running back.
I think he will be the next.
I mean, I like Najee Harris.
I always root for him because Ifeel like he's a cool guy.
I've seen a lot of off thefield stuff with him and he's
just very likable.
Seems like a good team player.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
He's from the Bay.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Is that where he's from?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, I think he's from Oakland.
Oh, he's either.
Yeah, he's North Carolina.
Yeah, Bay Area guy.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Okay, yeah, I mean, and you know what I think I like
how you say you don't know how.
You're foreign too, becauseI've watched a lot of Steelers
games just here and I kind offeel the same way.
But they have this fourthquarter resurgence.
Yes, it's like if they couldjust figure out how to start the
game in that manner then, theywould be a really really top
tier team.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Well, you know what, though it's as far as, with that
, a lot of the fourth quarterstuff is more of like Kenny
Pickett going off script andlike making audibles.
Actually, there's been a coupleof clips of the last couple of
games that, like they've scoredtouchdowns.
You know, kenny Pickettliterally will call it audible
and then do like a play that islike no, fuck this, we're going

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to do this play, and then it'llcut back to Matt, canada and all
and everybody is like cheeringand all, and then Matt Throwing
the club board down.
And like he's just well, he'sjust like there, he's not
excited, he's just very stoicand all and it's just like.
he's very like plain and you'dthink for a guy who's fighting
for his job, you know it'd be alittle more excited that his
offense is actually scoring.

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But then the thing is it's likeoh wait, it's not the play that
he's rid up, it was like atotally like.
It was an audible that like aKenny Pickett was just like no,
we're doing this.
And that happened like twogames in a row now, and so you
know, just seeing them, yeah,like, honestly, like it's, the
offense is, I wouldn'tnecessarily say like a atrocious

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, but, for lack of a better word, atrocious for three quarters.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Just the consistency of the like.
They seem to start flat andthen it takes the controversy
throughout the game to kind oflight that spark.
But it is good seeing, like youknow, when you see the younger
quarterbacks like get to go offscript.
I think that's where thepromise of the future, like as a
potential franchise quarterback, is at Right, because it's a

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game.
Script is one thing andsometimes you'll see rookies do
well.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
I mean, a great example of that is like not to
be just because I'm a Bears fan,but Trabisky was a was a very
good example of sticking togrant game script.
In the first you know 20 playsof the game he would look like a
top 10 quarterback.
But anytime, you know, becauseas the game goes on, defensive
reads they pick up on things,they start everyone's changing

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on both sides.
Yeah, and now you have the offscript potential changes and
that's where you see guys willnot step into that next role and
being that top tier quarterbacklike the Mahomes or like Aaron
Rodgers or Tom.
I mean Tom Brady's a badexample because he basically
called all the plays from thequarterback position.
But yeah, yeah, you know.

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So it's fun seeing that I'm afan of Kenny Pickett and George
Pickens is the man dude, he is afucking beast.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
And you know it's funny that, like you, brought up
Mr Risky, because now he's ourbackup quarterback.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
I know, hey, I was going to say you're good dude,
he's a good like injury fillertime guy Big time he is.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I will say and again, I don't say this to be, like
you know, to punch down at yourteam and everything- but it's
Okay, I could take it, it's abear's friend.
Don't bear's, but you know,it's like you know.
I think that they, like thebears.
That organization ruined MitchTrebisky, just like I think that
they might be ruining JustinFields.

(07:41):
Might be, might be.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
I think we're full blown.
I was like I think you've seenJustin Fields and again, this is
not, this isn't.
I wish with every fiber of mybeing in football fandom as a
bear's fan, that Justin Fieldsdelivers Like it's not a.
So when I say these things,it's not because I don't want

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him to be excellent, because hehas all the markers, he's the,
the build, the athletic abilityhe has, he has an arm, he has a
can't dude and when he was ahigh I was high.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, Ohio State, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
He wasn't a running quarterback, no, I mean, he
wasn't like a true pocket passereither, but he had a lot of
like.
He was a dual threat anddownfield accuracy was a thing
for him and all of a sudden youknow obviously it's not college
then it felt as much different,but it's like he's been victim
of a and I hate using the wordvictim, but the victim
circumstance in this case, right, is that the bear's identity of

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who they're trying to be.
It's like when Nagi came in,they want to be Kansas City.
Right, they're not Kansas City.
They don't have the playmakerslike Kansas City.
They don't have the offensiveline like Kansas City.
And let's be real, dude, whatmakes Kansas City what they are
is my homes and unfortunately,you know it wasn't translating,
but even though, if you're adude, if you're a casual fan,

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you could see that what they tryto do doesn't work.
So it's been super frustrating.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
You know what who's actually doing?
Pulling a Kansas City right now, and not not in the way of,
like a quarterback play, but howto like basically rebuild a
franchise the Detroit Lions.
So the Detroit Lions theyliterally looked at how Kansas,
like modern day Kansas City,literally like, built themselves

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and everything being, like youknow, super Bowl contenders,
like just being a top contenderin the NFL.
Right, they're arguably thebest team in the NFL, even if,
like they, their offense isn'tquite right after, like, eric
Biennamy went to Washington.
Right, but they're stillwinning games.
They're still like they have abetter defense than they've ever
had.
So they're more balanced teamthis year than they've ever been

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.
And all that so they mean theiroffense have may have gone down
, but their defense has gonesignificantly higher.
So now they're a more balancedteam and they're still able to
beat teams.
It may not seem like as much ofa blowout, but they're, they're
doing the job.
But what Detroit did is thatthey, what they drafted, like
the first thing that they didwas they drafted a left tackle

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to cover the blindside.
Then they then, like they tradedaway their like you know,
franchise player like MattStafford and got a shit ton of
picks and Jerry Goff andeverything and everyone's
thinking.
I remember I remember I waslike LA did Jerry Goff really
dirty because they're like, oh,we don't believe in this guy.
I'm like, dude, this guy isactually a good player and I

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like he, like he was a youngquarterback yeah, he makes some
mistakes.
The fact is is that, like youknow, they're like, oh well, he
took us to one Super Bowl but helost it.
He's not our guy and but he'shaving an amazing season.
Obviously, like last gameagainst the Ravens, which the
Ravens are a really good teamthey did like he got like
destroyed by, but you know, theybuilt up.

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They built up their offense ofa left tackle.
They got like a solid, you knowveteran quarterback that can
throw the ball.
It's a good pocket passer likea legitimate, like like
gunslinger.
And then like and then theystarted building up like again,
getting a good receiver, gettinga good running back and all and
so like they're really justbuilding up their team, oh yeah,
and then their edge rusher like.

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Hutchinson, bro, he's a beast.
Do you know how tall that guy?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
is no.
How tall is he?
He is six foot seven, like 268pounds.
What Basically pure muscle.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Dude, that guy's a monster, Holy shit.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
I didn't realize because, like his, there was
some commentary about hiswingspan, because I was thinking
it was after the first week.
He like there was game week oneand he had a crazy good game.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
And yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
I was like there he was standing next to somebody
and he looked like a giganticperson standing next to like a
child, right, I'm like how tallis?
Anyways, looked up, he's six,seven and just all athletic as
can be.
And they scored on that pickupwith him.
And I totally agree with you,the rebuild of Detroit's model,
you know, they went out verysimilar to like Kansas City.

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Right, you build off the line,you create security and going
after golf, I thought was geniusbecause his metrics were if he
has protection, he's a top fivequarterback.
If he has to scramble.
He can't, he's not fast, he'snot going to run.
If you get pressure on him,which the Patriots showed in the
Super Bowl, it puts him in spot.
But if you have a good line youcan create that distance.

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He needs that one extra secondand he's.
You know, it's like it's like a40% differential on his
completion percentage.
And to talk about the gameagainst Uh, what did they play
against the?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Ravens.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Jesus, they hadn't played the, they hadn't played
Baltimore in years and I think Idon't even think they've faced
them with Lamar.
And there's, like some I read,some interesting metric that for
every team's first time playingagainst Lamar Jackson with the
Ravens, yeah the Ravens havelike a 95% win percentage.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Every NFC team.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Oh NFC team.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
So at any NFC team and it's uh, you know it's funny
because, like the week before,what?
Like uh?
Or was it the week before, twoweeks before?
It's like you know, theSteelers beat the Ravens and all
and everyone's like uh, sayingit's like it was more so.
The Ravens lost that gamerather than the Steelers won
that game, because there's abunch of drop passes or like

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miscue with the like uh, withtheir routes and everything.
But I mean again uh, like uh,coach Tomlin says a win to win
and it's like we do notapologize for winning yeah
absolutely.
You know.
So I'm like I'm like, yeah, Iget it, but I'm like, you know,
it's like obviously if thingswent another way, like yeah, the
Ravens would have won that game, but at the same time it's like
we keep exactly, but we keep itlike the thing is like the AFC

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North, like the Ravens, willalways have a really big
challenge against other AFCNorth teams, um, every once in a
while, like it'll be like a,like a standard blowout, but, um
, but yeah, no, because we seethem twice a year, every year.
It's like we're used to like, soSteelers are used to, um, used
to LeBron Jackson to, so thatthey know how to contain them,

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at least to where it's like youknow, some of his greatness
doesn't shine Right and the factis is that, like you know, I
know that there are some peoplewho are like, ah, like, I don't
believe in LeBron Jackson, da,da, da, um, I think he's
overhyped, I and like, and thereare times where it's like you
can see that and you're like,yeah, maybe you know, but then
you watch him dude, Dude yeah.
He's really good, yeah, and hethe thing is is that he's a.

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You know he came in more as ascrambling quarterback like a
like a Michael Vick 2.0.
Yeah, but honestly, dude his,his ability to become more of a
pocket passer, like he's gottenso much better in his passing
game and honestly I think likehe's blooming into like into his
own like where he's going intohis you know his prime right

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when he still has his legs andhe's getting a lot more accurate
in the pocket and so you know,his, his career is most
definitely going to like expandlonger.
Now is now that he has more ofa command in the pocket.
Because you know, like, justlike a you know Michael Vick
like, honestly he like wasmostly a scrambler and all that

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and like for the majority of hiscareer and then when he did go
to Philly with Ed Reed.
He did become a little bit moreof a pocket passer way later in
his career but like he had maybelike what, two or three good
seasons in Philly and then afterthat he was kind of done.
I mean, granted, funny enough.
Not a lot of people know this,but Michael Vick was a backup
quarterback for the Steelers atthe end of his career.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Oh, that's right yeah .

Speaker 2 (15:29):
He was back up for a big bend, which was wild to
think, because you're like wait,what the hell am I yeah?
So but yeah, but it's.
You know he's like he is abetter version of Michael Vick
and I think that you know he hasa lot of promise and like.
The one thing that's reallycool to see is that you know how
.
Like you know when players getpaid a lot of money and like or

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like they get the big payday,but then it's like their play
doesn't kind of reflect thatanymore, cause like they're like
I mean you could even say thesame thing about like the Sean
Watson and how, like that wholeentire debacle.
You know what.
I love it because fuck theBrowns.
All right, if you're Clevelandfan, hey, you know what.
You might be a great person andlike we might have get along,

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have a beer, but I mean yo fuckyour team, like yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Well, I mean, dude.
I feel the same way about the.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Packers.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Even though now I feel like we can beat them, even
though the week one.
Yeah, but you know what, andit's, it's interesting because
it's like those types of players, you know, like that's what,
like going back to the Bears.
Right, that's what the hope waswith Justin Fields and still is
to a certain extent.
But I will say this depending onhow his hand heals up, if Tyler

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Bajant or AKA T-Bag which isthe funniest nickname of a
quarterback if they go out andthey beat the Chargers tonight
and he has a just a competentgame.
It doesn't have to be you knowsome, you know world beater type
.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Right.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
He looks.
I released last week.
He looked good and he lookedgood as in.
He kind of had like a AlexSmith vibe to him.
Good game manager.
Quick reads didn't turn theball over.
Now it was against the Raiders,so you got to take that for
what it is, but at the same timeI think it was a good
transition.
This will be more of a testtonight If they can be competent

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against what I would say is aporous Chargers defense and the
Bears defense has to stop theChargers offense, which there's,
I feel in lies, a biggerquestion mark.
Yeah, but it should be anentertaining game.
I'm super pumped because we'regoing.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I do yeah, dude, that's gonna be sick man.
Oh man, so far, so dope I'venever been, so I'm really
excited.
I've never been inside for afootball game.
We were there for a concert atthe YouTube theater like back in
.
May, but like again, like ohman, that looks so sick.
I have some friends that likeactually work like at SoFi, so
like I've always see like allthe clips of them on IG.

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You know, I have like I'm likedamn, it looks sick.
I'll send you some pictures.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Tonight, dude, I'm super, super, super pumped.
I don't know what to expectother than I don't know.
I feel like I've been trainedto not be.
I say this out loud, but thereality is, when we lose, is it
like just, it's such a weirdthing.
It's like I, it means nothingto my life, but and it's like
you're doing it.
It's like you sent, you, sendthat to me yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah.
I have the like.
I have the choice to let thisimpact me for the remainder of
the day.
It has no bearing on anythingthat happens in my life.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
And then there's like a blank, blank thing where you
just sit, and it's like I'mgoing to fucking let it yeah,
I'm going to let it destroy myday, you know?

Speaker 1 (18:28):
yeah, and it's just, you know, I guess that's what it
is being a fan and you'd think,of course I mean being a fan of
a franchise that's been aneternal letdown, essentially,
other than like I guess it makesyou just like the little wins
in a weird way.
So it's like not thisexpectation of greatness, so you
kind of just you roll with it.
But, oh, dude, like I thinkit's there though, dude, like I

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think you know, like and I, andagain like I don't, I don't want
to say like, ah, man, we got tomove on from fields, but I also
feel like it might be time tomove on.
And I'm not saying KaylaWilliams is the answer either,
because I watched the game lastweek and he did not look as good
as I, as far as that was thefirst time I watched the whole
game.
Now, again, it's one game.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
But it was one game against a top tier team that I
thought, ok, well, this is whatyou're going to see in the NFL
more things like this and better, right.
And so how does he handle it?
And I was like, oh my God,they're already talking about
going after this guy.
And I'm like, nah, didn't,didn't knock my socks off.
I'll say that much.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Actually, hang on, Like, where do you think, where
do you think Kayla Williams isrealistically going to go?
Like again, based on draft,yeah, Like we're like he's going
to, he's going to go number one.
Who do you think is actuallygoing to win the Kayla Williams
sweepstakes of being like theworst team?

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Well, I mean, I hope it's not the Bears, because that
means the Bears aren't going towin maybe more than one or two
more games for the rest of theseason.
I really think that he can bein Arizona.
I think that he can end up, seethat.
Honestly like he won't end up atTennessee, but Tennessee would
need a quarterback, althoughWill Levis is starting today, so

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we'll see I thought he wasgoing to do a lot better, pound
out more, but he hasn't had astart for the season yet, so
Well, yeah, but like he had acouple of starts last season and
he did not look good andeverything.
The mayonnaise and bananasweren't helping him out.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
No, no, like, honestly, it's funny because I
remember that draft, likebecause him and Kenny Pickett
were both drafted in the samedraft class.
No, kenny Pickett was the firstquarterback taken in that, he
was the only quarterback in thefirst round taken.
But it was really funny justbecause, like, oh, it's like, oh
, yeah, like we might get Willisand all.
I think he's a better fit forus, for our team, and I'm like

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he might be a better fit for us,like right now, are you?

Speaker 1 (20:42):
talking about Malik Willis?
Oh, my bad, I was talking aboutWill Levis.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
It's tough because they have a very similar same
name.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, this was his last draft.
Oh, is it Will Leviss?
Anyway, but he was the guy thatduring draft day was there
because he was gonna possibly goin like the top 15.
Oh, and then he didn't getpicked at all and they were,
like you know, on the camerasand he looked.
You know he's bummed out.
Of course every, every guy would, he was shading on that and I

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was thinking I'm like why, ofcourse he's gonna be upset.
You know what I mean.
Like if I was told like, hey,you might even go number two,
number three, number four, youknow, you got your family there,
everyone's getting ready andstuff and you don't even get
picked on day one, I'd be likeI'd have a hard time keeping it
together too.
So, get out there and kick someass today, but you deserve it.
Hell yeah, but yeah.

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So I know this is a monthlyreview and we've kind of just
basically only talked football.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Well, one more question, though, Other than
let's say who do you think thebest team in football is right
now?

Speaker 2 (21:47):
The best team in football right now.
Okay, it's tough because, likeyou know, other teams blossom at
different times and all thatBased off of last week, like the
.
I mean again like it's toughbecause, like you know, you
think like based off of lastweek, it's like oh, the Ravens

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look like just like fuckingmonsters.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
And like all the way, like from like weeks what?
Week one through five, like Iwas thinking you know San
Francisco which, by the way, sanFrancisco when we played them
week one.
Like I was going into theseason like kind of feeling my
team a little bit too much and Iand I got humbled real quick on
week one.
To the point where it's like Ihad like, for a good few weeks I

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just had pessimism, and apessimism for my team where it's
like, oh hey, you won a game.
It's like, yeah, but did wereally win though?
It's like, like you know, likeit was kind of like I had a
little bitter taste in my mouthall the way from week one.
But I just saw time and timeagain that, like you know, san
Francisco is the real deal.
Obviously, the last two gameskind of like you know, kind of

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like a, demystified that alittle bit.
I think that when they'rehealthy, that San Fran is
probably the best team.
Overall.
They have the most completeteam.
I think the most excitingoffense is Miami.
I think that when the billsactually, like the bills are hot
and cold, they're either reallygood and dominant or they lose

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to the Jets, you know.
So it's kind of hit and missand like I mean you could say I
mean even the Eagles the Eaglesare winning the most ugly
football that has ever beenplayed.
You know the Tush push or theBrotherly shove.
Like you know the Brotherlyshove I haven't heard that one
yet, oh man.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
That was good.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
So you know, like there's, I think that as far as
and now again there are somepeople that are saying like, oh
well, it's Kansas City, becausethey're still winning, they have
a more balanced team that theyhave ever had, like their
offense is still, like they'restill trying to find an identity
, they actually just honestlylike the only thing that the

(24:00):
Kansas City needs is receivers,because they can't just rely on
Kelsey like they have been doing.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
What are you talking about?
If you have 10 wide receiverfours, that's gotta.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
I'm just joking.
You're absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
The fact is that they are a team that can still put
it together somehow With likerelatively no one.
I think Rishi Rice is good.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Like I think he'll be their number one outside.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Of.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Kelsey yeah, he'll grow into that for sure.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
But like, why aren't they going after like a handful
of like decent veterans thatthey can absolutely be a number
one on their team?

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Big toe.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
I mean honestly, that's why I think the
organization looks at it andthey just go yeah, we're
actually doing pretty good sowith relatively, you know nobody
and they're, you know theydon't take the financial cap hit
.
So they're basically balling ona budget and it's all around
Mahomes.
I mean that's it and theirdefense, for whatever reason, it

(24:57):
started the year good Like thatnever happens.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Exactly Like Kansas City has been known for just
having a really their bestdefense is their offense.
It's like that in the past,like they've had like next to
nothing like defense, and whichis why that one year what?
Four or five years ago, whereit was like you know Jared Goff
Rams and you know Mahomes withKansas City, where that was like

(25:19):
the most like high scoring gamein NFL history Dude, I was at
that game.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Oh, it was a life moment.
Check off list.
Like that was the most excitinggame.
I mean, dude, like I would runup to go grab a beer and I would
miss two touchdowns.
Oh, like what's going on?
Like it's just like in sixminutes, like, come on, you know
it was really cool.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yeah, like I honestly dude.
I think that as far as when itcomes to there is no like I
don't see like a standalone bestteam in the league and
everything, I would say likethere's a good handful of teams
that I think will take it allthe way.
I think that it's like you know, san Fran, when they're healthy
, I think Kansas City is stillthere, like, unless, like they

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absolutely just get beat andeverything if they like get
handed, basically if they gethanded it to them, like the
Lions just got handed to them,like from the Ravens and
everything.
If they have a loss like that,then it's like okay, yeah,
they're human, but like they'rewinning games there it's not as
flashy as it used to be, they'rekind of playing more
conservative football andeverything.

(26:26):
Like again, like relatively forthe Kansas, for Kansas City,
yeah.
But I honestly think, like youknow, we might see a rematch of
like a 49er Chief Super Bowlagain.
I guess you know I could alsosee, you know, the rematch of
last year of the Chiefs and theEagles.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
I don't wanna see that I don't either.
I really don't.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
But, like you know, like I want more variety, but
you know, I think the Ravens arein the mix for sure.
Yeah, and again, there areteams that I really like seeing
and I like seeing them do well,like the Lions, even though I
know that they're a division, Idon't care.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
That's who I, that's how I'm.
I mean, obviously, I wish theBears would turn it all around
and be undefeated and have aplayoff run by the end of the
year, but at the end of the day,I think Detroit's really
well-rounded, like you're a lotof the points you were talking
about earlier, and I really,really think that they have a
good chance of making it to theend.
Are they the best team infootball, which is, I guess,
what the original question was?
Probably not, but they're upthere and I would say probably

(27:32):
the Niners are probably the mostcomplete team.
The defense is unreal and asmuch shade as Brock Pretty gets
as far as like, I know he had abad game last week, but yeah, he
also had a concussion last weekthat no one knew about until
like he got in the plane.
It was like a day later, dude.
Yeah Well, they're all seemslike.
Oh yeah, by the way, like Ican't see my toes, yeah, he
didn't say that, but I just whatI'm getting at is that, like
that makes more sense, Cause hehad a lot of bad reads in that

(27:53):
game, which hasn't been his MOfor since he took the Ravens.
What the last 11 games?
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, honestly, I think that, okay, like before we
move on to yeah, with Brock,the whole entire thing with
Brock Pretty, this is my thing.
So I think that people may haveoverhyped him when he came in
and like he started taking overand like no one was expecting
anything from him, and then hedoes his job, basically, and
then everybody overhypes him,right, and then now it's like

(28:20):
we're getting to a point wherepeople are now just starting to
dog him and trash him likeunnecessarily and all.
I think maybe some of thatpraise might have been
unnecessary too, but now it'slike it's the exact opposite
Pendulum's swung in a differentdirection.
I think that he is again he's.
People need to understand that,dude, this is only his second

(28:40):
year.
This guy came in as MrIrrelevant, like Larry.
Like, for those who don't know,mr Irrelevant is literally the
last pick in the NFL draft, sohe was the last person to get
drafted in his draft class,whereas, if I enough, he's the
last quarterback, whereas KennyPickett was the first
quarterback and he definitelyshowed that he was the better

(29:01):
quarterback that week one.
But granted, again differentcircumstances where, like, kenny
Pickett is in a situation where, like, he has to step up and be
like, you know, kind of do morefor his team, whereas Brock
Purdy has a team set up aroundhim.
So, honestly, like he has kindof a similar situation, you know

(29:22):
, and like I hate making thiscomparison, but like everybody
does is that he has more of a,he has a better situation, as
like a Tom Brady type ofsituation where he's going into
a good organization.
Good organization, like you know, that everything else is set in
place and he's literally likelike again.

(29:43):
Like no one expected a lot fromTom Brady when he first started
, cause no one really knew whothe hell he was.
And so same thing with BrockPurdy he's doing his job, he's
doing great.
You know, there was like thegame in Cleveland.
It's just like there was just abunch of stuff happening there
as far as, like you know, wet,like bad weather, all that stuff
Granted it football.

(30:04):
Obviously I understand, but,like you know, that was his
first like not great game thathe's had in the NFL and
everyone's going way too hard onhim because, like he's supposed
, like he's supposed to beperfect, because like he's out,
he has a great team around him,he should not be able to mess up
.
I'm like dude, he's a youngquarterback in the NFL and like
he's he's there's going to begrowing pains there.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Dude.
The fact he hasn't had the gamelike last week, I think more so
shows you that, like he is,absolutely he's going to.
I mean, he's going to be theguy in San Francisco, barring no
injury for sure.
And you know and like so muchof that you know, and we'll move
on from football because I feellike we need to cover some
other things too, but I can talkthis all day, Dude.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
But which maybe next time we won't call it a review,
we'll just do football.
Football Sundays, but Tim newsegment right, I know we've
talked about it, yeah, no, butit's so much, just kind of lucky
, like on where you land.
You know, like he's he'sobviously a good, like Perti's a
great quarterback, a goodplayer, a good coachable player,

(31:10):
and you know he happened tofall into a team that has a lot
of the key components alreadythere, you know.
So it's like, dude, if KennyPickett was on the Niners.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Oh dude, he would be doing amazing.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
You were right.
I mean like he's like a step upand you know athleticism,
throwing that kind of like gamertype, you know, or so it's like
so much of the shuffle.
Just that's what makes footballso interesting is like you can
have guys like whoever you know,like look at Justin Fields, get
her example right, right, allthe metrics of athleticism off
the charts, he's the next,whatever.

(31:43):
Yeah, dude, you know you go toan organization which you know
our offensive coordinator.
I just I can't stand him.
Dude, run, stop running out ofshotgun formation, just do it.
You know, mix it up, gotraditional, play action,
rollouts, all that stuff.
Like as soon as they went oldschool first game, the game that
they tried that out, theyscored 38 points.
It looked great.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Wait, was that against the Broncos?
It was against Denver.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
We fell apart there in the end.
But I'm just saying like thescheme was different, showed
success, next week comes back.
They went away from it, sucked,lost.
Week after that comes back.
We ended up winning that gamebecause they started mixing it
up again and like to talk like Iknow exactly what I'm talking
about.
Dude, I'm just a big fan.
That's all, Of course of course,I'm not a head coach or I'm not

(32:29):
an offensive coordinator, but Itell you what, if I can see
things as a casual fan, I'd haveto imagine, like you're going
what are you doing, man?
You know now, is that the playcalls?
Is that the expectations ofyour players to be able to
execute, or are your playersmessing it up Because all these
things go inside?
But at the end of the day, ifyou're not winning, you're not

(32:50):
going to be able to do anything.
Yeah, three years he's highfields is one like three games
for four games.
I think now that's the longestI've ever seen a rookie
quarterback which is not even arookie anymore right given a
chance to be a winner and justdo the NFL, the media,
everything is always like youknow.
It's not his fault.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
It's not his fault everyone, everyone's making
excuses for him and everything.
Yeah, and believe me.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
I do it too like.
I'm like well, you know theline sucks.
I was a bad play calling thatit up.
At the end of the day, dude,you got a, an undrafted free
agent that comes in, that hasn'tplayed a game since the
division to college team rightcame out Looked competent.
Yeah and one, yeah.
So I'm like okay.
Well, like I said, tonight'sgonna be the true test.
I really hope it works out forthe Bears and I.

(33:35):
You know I'm bummed because mywife's a charger and I'm not
bummed, but like there's gonnabe that, like you know, oh,
she's gonna be a chargers fanand I mean like and I love, I do
.
I love the Chargers JustinHerbert, echler, freakin, josh
Palmer.
Hopefully well, in my case Ihope he doesn't play tonight but
he probably will yeah him andKeenan Allen Probably torch the
Bears.
Second, year.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
I mean, dude, like you have what Joey Bosa and
Khalil Mack as well, andeverything, but the thing is
like Well, dude, you're awesome,but you sucked for us.
Yeah, Dude it's funny cuz like,yeah, whenever, whenever, I'm
not rooting for the Steelers andall, I'm rooting for the
Raiders, and so he's like he wasa raider first.
Yeah, and you know it's funnyjust because, yeah, like I, it's

(34:15):
like I really don't care aboutthe chargers.
Honestly, they should just stayin San Diego.
Yeah like but yeah, it's like.
I think that like yeah,whenever it's like the Raiders
are playing, it's like obviouslyit's like, yeah, we, we hate
the Broncos.
And then like, yeah, the Chiefsis like, ah, yeah, we don't
like them either, but eventhough that it's exciting for

(34:36):
them to watch.
Honestly, I don't have anythingany beef with the Chiefs.
I think what they're doing isgreat and, honestly, there's fan
base is awesome.
Yeah like they honestly havenever met a dick.
That's a cheese fan.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
No right, you know they're either.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah, they're not kind of want them to be, so I
can like, not like them, yeah,so I could hate them, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
I'm like cuz, it's easier.
Yeah, the fans are jerks.
You're like yeah, when you'renot, you're like damn it, dude,
that's why it's so easy to hateNew England.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
You know Cuz like boss.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yeah, anyway, we Know I love it, man, I love it.
I just wanted to.
We'll just, we'll just talkabout one more subject, and it's
super relevant and it's verycontroversial, you know.
So Try to tactfully speak mymind about it.
Yeah, which I feel like it'skind of in the middle.

(35:28):
Anyway, so same.
But what's happening withIsrael and Palestine?
You know, I'm sure everyone isaware of the incident that
occurred and now the backlashthat's occurring, with the whole
instance going down the GazaStrip.
Yep, without getting too deepinto the history of stuff
because I am not a historyexpert at this, which also is

(35:49):
the reason why I take my stanceon this it's an area that has
been Fuelled by turmoil based onreligious ideology from the
get-go.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, like from like dude.
It's like like what was it likethis?
Like this goes back, what likeCenturies, right?

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Well, it's the it's it's the fight of that area,
predominantly as a holy rightsright, you know so you have
Palestinians, muslim, statingthat these are holy lands of
this area, versus Israelis, with, you know, having this and
again, like I don't even knowthe exact spots of it, but it
runs the borders of both thosecountries right, and you know

(36:30):
it's.
It's one of those things whereI feel like there's, you know,
like you said earlier, there'sbad blood on both.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Sorry, I'm trying to do the cameras at the same time.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
No, but there's bad blood on both sides, you know,
and it's like so when you havepeople.
You know, when I say people, Imean people from that area that
have the affiliation to it.
I'm not talking about someWhite college kid that's not
affiliated in either way butwants to stand up, and I use
that term just because there's alot of memes and things of
Seeing these more specifically,like the pro-Palestinian

(37:00):
protests and stuff, where youstart looking in the crowd and
you're like man, okay, likeinteresting vibe, because then
again, right.
So it's like, if you're takingthe side of, like, like I don't
want anyone to die, right, okay,which is a fair statement.
It's like, yeah, I don't wantto see innocent people get hurt,
and I feel that way on bothsides.

(37:21):
So it's like, yeah, my take.
When I first saw it, when I whenthat, when that happened the
first day, I thought, oh man,that's not good.
Obviously it's not good.
But like this wasn't just like.
I mean, dude, israel has theIron Dome.
They get potshots from rocketsall the time.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
That's why they have it right yeah and they're
actively defending themselvesconstantly right.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Now, whether you're an agreeance of that or not,
it's just what it is, right,right.
So when this occurred, whichbasically was like 1500 soldiers
, whether it's ARC, I mean, yousee all the, the Concerts where
people are flying in and, ohyeah, going out and killing
people and stuff, like when Isaw that, I thought, holy crap,
dude, like they have to make acrate, like they have to be
Extremely aggressive in response, right dude, when I yeah,

(38:03):
actually I agree with you when Isaw that it was just it, like
you know, that was like kind ofa spark plug.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
It's like that was a trigger of you know what was to
come to, where there would beeven, like more bloodshed, and
it's just like you know, likeBecause it's funny, it's funny
how it's like you know, it'slike military operations, though
I'm like you know the like it,like Hamas, the turret terrorist
group, like went in and likeliterally did it.
It was like it was just an actof terrorism, right.

(38:32):
Yeah, and so, and so you know alot of like, and not only like
Israel, like civilians, but,like you know, international
civilians that were just at that, like you know, outdoor 22
Americans.
I think, yeah, like non-military, yeah, you know, and like, and
then like all, and then like thepeople who Didn't die, like
there are like a lot of hostagesfrom that situation to that are

(38:55):
still hostages, right, yeah,and so obviously, yeah, like the
whole entire, like theretaliation, and this is like
where it's like you know, likethe whole entire conflict.
There is, like you know, likeall the bombing that's going
down now where it's like youknow, yes, like what the initial
, like trigger, like the thingthat sparked it all off At least
this current rendition, because, again, like there's been so

(39:18):
many of these throughout thedecades, right, right?
And so it's like you know, thething is like I'm like, I'm like
maybe this is gonna soundcontroversial, but like there's
blood on both people, both sides, and everything.
Like there's blood on people,both people's hands, like where
you know, it's Like I, obviously, I just want all the stop.
I just want all the stop righteverything you know cuz you know

(39:40):
it.
But the but, yeah, but like theretaliation of like, just like
this, like straight up bombingand everything right, it just
like.
You know.
Obviously it's like we're likethe actions or like what they're
saying is like we want to Getrid of Hamas, but then it's like
but the declared war on.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
But it's like the actions are not like, it's like
you're Disregarding civiliansand everything, and I think
that's kind of like.
I think that's like the issue.
I think that's the issue with alot of people are having, as
far as when it comes to like youknow, like a protest or the
ceasefire stuff, right, it'slike you know, it's like this is

(40:20):
not the way to do it or likeit's becoming a more of a
humanitarian crisis, right?

Speaker 1 (40:24):
And that's and that's kind of the thing too is it's
like okay, look like I, and thenwhen I talk about it, it I am.
I will sound like I'mpro-Israel when I'm talking
about it, and that's notnecessarily the the true
foundation of what I'm thinking.
Because at the same time, it'slike look to have an event that
took place, right so, as thelargest loss of Israelis,

(40:44):
essentially since the Holocaust,right, and a one-time event,
right, right.
So You're crazy if you thinkthat they're not going to
retaliate when every countrythat surrounds them is basically
wants them off the map, right,doesn't recognize Israel as a
country, and a lot of that isdisputed in religious issues,
because the majority of thesurrounding countries are all

(41:06):
Muslim.
Yeah, you know, and I'm notsaying that's wrong, I'm just
saying that, like, if you'rebacked into a corner which these
people are right, it makessense that they would be
aggressive in the retaliation.
However, it's hard to justifythat when you're you know it's
like look, collateral damage isa thing.
That's why war isn't pretty,that's why all the stuff that
goes on when they're fighting itsucks.
So when people are like I'mpro-saving Palestinian people,

(41:28):
it'd be like, yeah, dude, like Itotally would support, not
women and children dying.
Yes, you know like I and Iagree with that, but I also
think it's kind of like you're.
There's too many blanketstatements.
It's generalize when it's likebecause you're saying, okay,
free Palestine.
It's like, well, just so you'reaware, the Gaza Strip isn't

(41:49):
Essentially Palestine.
Yeah, okay, it's like a.
It's like a border-shared areawhere there's both sides of
people that are in one spot.
If the, if the goal is to gointo eradicate, which will never
happen, you can't.
Because it's like, it's like aright.
It's like saying that you'regoing to war on an ideology.
Hamas is a group right andthey're the recognized group
within Palestine, which is likethe pseudo political slash.

(42:12):
You know tears organization,but yeah, at the end, of the day
.
It's like when people are sayingthey're freeing Palestine, I
don't feel like Most peoplearen't.
Well, we're pro Hamas, butyou're really just anti people
getting killed, your anticollateral damage, your anti
this, but it's not how it getspropagated from the media, right
?
So when you see, like lgbtqflags Flying free Hamas, I'm

(42:33):
like, hey, don't you remember,like a year and a half ago, when
the girl was stoned to death orwas killed by the, the
Palestinian officers, becauseshe was wearing what wasn't
considered to be appropriate outin public?
Right, you're telling me thatPalestine supports this.
Like that's why it's like.
It's like this hypocrisy thatjust you know keeps accelerating

(42:54):
, but, like most movements thatare bound with religion or faith
or Race or whatever, right, itkind of has generated these huge
Outcries, right, and so, likethat's why we're seeing like I
think it was in DC.
They had a hundred thousandpeople show up in a
pro-Palestinian Well, dude, andeveryone's chanting from the
river to the sea set Palestinefree and I'm like, just so
everyone's aware of that, thatmeans from the river, from the

(43:16):
Jordan River, up to the sea thatis, israel is in the middle of
that.
So if you're saying like you'resetting them free, what to get
rid of Israel, like that, that'swhy it's like I don't think
people understand the historyand the understanding of how
this operates, where it's like Idon't think the random person
who's like pro whatever, thatthey don't have a total grasp on
what's going on.
I just think it's likeSometimes he's turned into a

(43:38):
popular thing, right, you know.
And then it's like I'm like,well, dude, like I could be
against both things.
I just don't want to.
I just don't want people toinnocent people to be hurt.
Yeah, I don't want the fightingto keep going on and it's Sad
to see.
But I'm also like what do youthink is going to happen?
Yeah, like you can't do whatyou just did and then Israel is
going to go.
Oh, okay, maybe.

(44:00):
Like I was trying to make an.
I was talking to someone aboutthis the other day and I felt
like it's not a great example,but I was trying to bridge that.
It would be like saying Between, let's say, california and
Mexico, right, and you can makethe argument that the United
States and California are Movingdrug trafficking people.
Does that, that we've done someshady things, that people that

(44:21):
live in Mexico are probably likeF the United States.
My family member was killed Da,da, da da in the process of
this.
Just like we would say we don'twant cartel moving in here and
doing all this stuff andinnocent people dying and all
the bad blood is there, right,right.
But if A thousand people cameover and they were like, oh, I'm
going to be killed, I'm goingto be killed, I'm going to be

(44:43):
killed.
If a thousand people came overinto San Diego and 500 people
were slaughtered that day, youcan bet your ass the United
States would Go in and mess themshit up, with the potential of
collateral damage also being aproblem.
So it's like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
I can understand almost like kind of like a
forced hand to like retaliate,like it's like a forced
retaliation.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Right.
I was like, even if, even ifyou are the representative of
that country, how are you goingto walk up and be like, yeah,
we're just, you know, we'rereally unhappy with how this
went?
No, you have to have, there hasto be a strong stance, and they
even more so in the Middle East, which I think a lot of those
areas are.
Basically the power structureis what leadership is built upon
, and fear is a huge tactic, andso it's like I don't think I

(45:24):
mean, at least I'm not shockedthat this is the response.
You know, the unfortunate sideof it is is like look, you know,
cause, like even the wholething with like oh, they bombed
a you know, which is actuallykind of ironic because there was
like two days into it.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Oh, the hospital, the hospital that was supposedly
bombed.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Which by.
Israel but yeah, there wasn'tit wasn't.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
It was like actually a failed bomb from like Hamas
Right.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
They were trying to launch bombs from the parking
lot of the hospital that endedup blowing up in the parking lot
, but then they said it was anIsrael strike, so in like not to
get.
I don't want to get nitpicky init, but it's like, look, at the
end of the day it's gonna.
It's gross, it's dirty, it'smurky water.
Yeah, it's murky is a great wayto yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Yeah, honestly, I think it's honestly I okay, like
, so I, you know me being, youknow, just a white guy in
America, right, I'm like as faras like I don't like it, like
this doesn't have like a directimpact on me because I'm neither
like Jewish or Palestinian,right, like so, or like you know

(46:31):
, or Muslim, like honestly likeI'm neither and all that, so it
doesn't affect me personally,right?
So it's like I'm definitely theoutsider looking in on this and
so obviously I don't want toknow any part of it Like.
The one thing that I do fear,though, as an American, is more
so of like the broaderimplications of you know, would
this be like the powder kegthing that actually sparks off

(46:54):
another world war?
Where it's like, if we go towar with Iran, which I think
that's like a worst casescenario, cause we don't want to
like, we don't want to war withIran, we don't honestly like I
don't, we don't want to war withanybody, like, and that's the
thing where it's like we likeand I don't want us to get
involved in something that wedon't necessarily need to be
involved with.
I know, I do understand that weare allies to Israel and

(47:17):
actually, like Israel is likeone of the biggest consumers of
our weapons.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
I got like they're like.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
They're, like our like biggest customer as far as
when it comes to like,manufacturing weapons and
everything because of like,because of their military like,
their military aspects.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Yeah, we funnel a lot of stuff through Israel and us
being one of their biggestbackers, you know, gives them,
it propagates them too to be,like, I would say, to not be
messed with in that way, right,but it's like they're also one
of, like, the only standingdemocracies in the area, right,
and you know, and it'sinteresting, cause it's like,
and they have a big split overthere and like, in the last

(47:58):
couple of weeks I've beenlistening to a lot of stuff and
digging in a little bit, cause Iwas like I'm, you know, I don't
know, I want to educate myselfa little bit on some stuff,
because I feel like there'simplications on the broader
spectrum, like what you'retalking about is what concerns
me.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yes, that's my, that's more of my concern If,
like, I don't I don't want tocome off seeming like
insensitive to the issue becauseagain, it's like I think that
you know it's there's a lot ofstuff that I don't understand.
Even, dude, like I rememberI've had, like like I've had
like Jewish friends, likegrowing up, and like they've
kind of talked about likeconflicts, like, like you know,

(48:33):
israel, palestine, likeconflicts back in the day when,
like I was like a kid, like 10,15 years ago, right, and the
thing is, every single Jewishfriend I had like I would ask
like a question about it, I waslike no, you don't understand.
Like this is like it'sdifferent, don't like you know
everything.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, and probably around that time is, I thought
that they had a, they had asmall war that had gone on
between the two already.
So it's like the turmoil andpast history is there.
So that's kind of where it'slike when you, when you hear
things and you know it's like,okay, yeah, these are the bad
guys, and it's like, look, youcan't take it as good guys, bad

(49:08):
guys.
You can't because it's likethere's both on both sides, I'm
sure, but it's like you have togo off to like, at least the way
I look at it is that this was aspecific event that's gonna
propagate a retaliation.
That retaliation now hopefullyisn't drawn out for too long.
But if they can get key peoplewithin the you know terrorist
group or what is deemed as aterrorist group, then good, then

(49:29):
that's a win in itself.
But the reality is is that, asthis keeps moving on, cause like
look, we've like, the UnitedStates has deployed ships closer
to that area that moved in Twodays ago they had bombed, like I
ran, backed Islamic extremegroups in Syria, oh Syria, oh
yeah, yeah.
And you know, and that's becausethat was a retaliation effort,

(49:51):
because the US outposts havebeen starting to become
attacked- so it's like From like, from like Arab just extreme we
can just call them extremegroups at this moment, and I
don't know the specifics on alot of that stuff, but I'm like
there are many things occurringright now where you have
positioning of stuff that canlead to, you know, a potential

(50:12):
World War three type conflict,and that's not good for anybody.
No, and you know.
So the hope here is that it'slike listen, you know, get the,
get the people in charge thatstarted this, you know, the
propagated this move of Hamas.
That's a win.
Yeah, Get rid of them.
You know, and I'm on board withthat, that's fucking terrible

(50:33):
what happened, you know.
But outside of that, it's like Ihope that cooler heads will
prevail at a certain pointbecause our economy, the way
things are going, all this stuff, it's like dude, we don't, we
don't, I don't think we wouldwant that now, I'm sure, like
Lockheed Martin and all them arelooking at their chops because
they're like we're gonna make ashit ton of money if this goes
through, but you know, but atthe end of the day, I think it's

(50:56):
like that that would be a bad,bad deal for the world in that
case.
And look, iran's a heavy hitter.
you know whether you thinkthey're a powerful nation or not
, but they're.
They're part of the BRICS groupwith China, russia.
These are more implications andwhat'll end up happening, in my
opinion, is that if we do getdrawn into more conflicts, all

(51:16):
that's going to happen isthere'll be a war of economics,
which has already has been, youknow.
But now these groups are tryingto, you know, they're trying to
power play the world, and it'slike the United States, the UN.
You know, I don't know it's like.
You know it's like will we beokay here in the United States?
I think, yeah, we'll be okay,like physically, you know, I
don't think, I don't thinkthere's gonna be nuclear war and

(51:37):
like and I know people use thatterm a lot because it's a scary
subject matter but I also feellike anytime you talk about like
nukes, that's more of likesomething, I think, where it's
like, unless the world's likeready to write itself off, which
I don't think that's going tobe the case you can't nuke an
area because the area that youhit is not going to be operable
for quite some time, right Withthe radiation fallout and stuff

(51:59):
like that.
So the idea that thisterminator, like end of the
world may occur.
I don't really believe that,because you know it's like all
right, well then, what You'regoing to nuke a country, and
then that country can, is notinhabitable.
Yeah Okay, that doesn't evenmake sense from a power play
position.
Exactly, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yeah, that's it, like that's if, like you know, like
you're backed into the cornerand like you're like, well, it's
like if we can't have it,nobody can kind of deal Right.
And, like you know, it's funnytoo because actually, like with
everything going on, you know,with Israel and Gaza Strip and
all that, you know how funny itis, how, like all the attention

(52:39):
has been taken away from Ukraineand all yeah, but not the
spending bill that we're tryingto sneak another $60 billion
over to Ukraine Bullshit though,like, but it's like you know,
it's like it's starting to whereit's like you know Sollensky's
like started to sweat, I think alittle bit, because you're like
, oh, like you know, it's likethe support and like the

(53:00):
attention is not going to be onthem anymore.
And so it's like that's going tobe like a little interesting
there as well.
But I honestly think, when itcomes to just all this conflict,
obviously again there's only somuch that I know about this
topic and like, and again I gotI can be quite frank, like I

(53:21):
don't know too much other thanlike what's currently happening
right now and what we'recurrently seeing.
I do think that the retaliationthat Israel is like unleashing
upon, like the Gaza Strip andlike again, again it's supposed
to be towards Hamas, but youknow, the civilian casualties
are so high and most of, and alot of them are children and

(53:44):
everything Cause like a GazaStrip, like the Gaza, like two
million people, I think, live inthe area and it's a mix of.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
It's a mix of everybody of the area, so it's
like a non-.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
But like almost half of that is like children, you
know, and that's, and that'ssomething that is you know,
that's something that like shedlight on where it's like you
know that's not like I mean,obviously that's not okay, but
but you know, it comes to apoint where it's like hell.
I think, even like Jaco Willinklike said that's like yeah, I
think the bombing kind of needsto stop and you need to kind of

(54:17):
switch tactics because this isnot necessarily working.
And also, if you think aboutthis way, you know, what type of
look is that for Israel, right,like, for, like the world to
see it, like you're alwaysstarting to see the tights turn
as far as like public opiniontowards Israel because of, like
you know, their retaliation.
Obviously, like, like you know,it's like they had it to

(54:39):
retaliate and everything theyhad to show some type of force,
but one is, like some type offorce, almost overkill.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Yeah, and I think that that's a very good point
and that's a.
There was actually I can'tremember one of the podcasts I
was listening to.
It was like the day after theevent occurred and someone was
talking about that exact thing.
Is that the way things seem towork as of in the last few years
, you know, with social mediainfluence and all that kind of

(55:05):
stuff, it's like the very firstday that happened.
The support of Israel wasmassive.
It's like, oh my God, that'sterrible, because it's something
to empathize with.
I mean, it was absolutely crazy, absolutely crazy.
And so and it's like, okay,well, they're gonna do something
back.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
But as time moves forward, what happens?
We all forget about the initialissue.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
So then-, dude, I think we listened to the same
podcast.
It was Breaking Points.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
No, this was, I think , the PBD Patrick, david, oh,
patrick, yeah, yeah, yeah, andit was someone that he had on
the show that was talking aboutit.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Maybe it was the same person, because I listened to
the same thing with BreakingPoints, the Breaking.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Points okay, but that's the truth behind it and
just like everything else, Imean look, a good example again
probably not a popular topic,but what happened with BLM and
the George Floyd process?
And it's like, look people.
I mean it's a bad comparison todeath.
But what I mean is that asituation propagated a response

(56:13):
and that response depending, Imean look, fired up because this
guy was killed.
That was the narrative, and I'mnot in support of the Chauvin
guy at all.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Right right.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
But I don't know, like in the last week or so, the
autopsy report, like theofficial document, came out and
it was talking about how therewas no physical damage to his
body that the coroners found.
It was just the talk.
Screening of the high fentanylIs potentially or not,
potentially is the cause ofdeath, right, so and that's out

(56:49):
there.
I'm not making this up and I'mnot saying you know, I'm not
saying like see this was allmessed up.
I don't mean it that way, cause,like I understand, there's a
field response with things andhow things work.
Now I definitely think it wasway over the top and out of line
with the destruction thatcaused.
Oh, big time.
But going back to my point isthat If that information had

(57:10):
come out at that, it isirrelevant.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Right.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Because the wheel already has started turning in
that way and we forget about thereason, or maybe it's not what
actually happened, but it's thethought of what happened which
perpetuates things movingforward, which, in this case,
it's probably going to be theopposite for the Israel support
Right Because, even though it'slike, yeah, absolutely, go in

(57:33):
there and fuck these people up,dude, they killed hundreds of
innocent people, hostages allthis Maybe.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Yeah, yeah, 40 babies .

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Well, that you know.
And then it was like is thattrue, is it not true?
And I'm like, look at the endof the day, like, well, it's
crazy, it's all crazy anddeserve.
The people in charge of thatdeserve to get taken down.
But as this moves forward, thetactics that they choose to do,
the bombings, the collateraldamage that will happen no
matter what, even though, like Iwill say that the you know, we

(58:00):
give them 48 hours to vacate anarea.
But then you have thousands ofrefugees that have been trying
to get to the borders of theareas.
Egypt terms them down, freakingSyria turns them down, all
these other things, so now youforce them back into the fucking
soup.
Yeah Well, you know what I mean.
And then people are going todie, you know, and it's not good
either way, you know.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
They will.
And another thing too, withthat is like, as far as I give
them 48 hours and like they'reonly like their only route to
like Egypt, like to like to getto Egypt, everything gets bombed
and everything, and so it'slike where are they supposed to
turn to?
you know?
And also, again, like you know,it's just, I feel, like the, I
do feel, like you know, theother countries surrounding have

(58:43):
, like you know, they likeinadvertently have blood on
their hands too for turning away, right, like sure, it's like
you know, it's like oh, like no,no, you need to go back and
everything right.
It was like we don't want anyof this and everything, but it's
like you know, it's.
Yeah, I think it's like a whole, a whole big mess.
But I do think, like what youwere saying as far as, like you
know, like the thought of it,and then it's like people get

(59:05):
caught up in the emotion, right,and that's why, like, where I
see people like that again, likewhether it be like you know,
the BLM, like a protest andriots and everything, or even
with this, it's just like peopleget caught up with the emotion
and people do things based offof emotion and everything, where
you know, I think that I mean,I believe that you do this too,

(59:28):
but, like you know, taking astep back and like just looking
at the situation without theemotion, seeing what's going on,
because, again, like we can getway too caught up with like
again, you get caught up anddragged away and everything with
like the like emotion of thetime that's happening and not
like not thinking away whereit's just like you need to have
a bigger, a broader perspectiveinstead of like this, very honed

(59:51):
in, like this pain point.
I also think that you know howlike I guess I can soccer.
It's like or well, any sportsreally you know, someone might
do something to a player, likegive a cheap shot and everything
, but it's like the foul or theflag or the red card or the
whatever, like soccer.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
You're making a soccer reference right now.
I was, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
You know, sorry, I just watched Beckham, so you
know, oh, yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
I'm just pulling out dude, it's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
I know, yeah, but like you, know, but like you get
, like you get the flag calledon you and all the technical all
that stuff.
Like that only is done mostlyto the retaliators and not to
the initial person that causedthat cheap shot.
I mean, obviously it happenswhere it's like oh, if there's a
blatant cheap shot, like it'llget called.
But there's a lot of timeswhere they'll do like the slight

(01:00:40):
cheap shot where it's like toget under the guy's skin and
then the other guy just eruptsand goes ham on them Right, and
so that's kind of what I'mseeing.
What's going on right now Likeagain making it like terrible to
make a sports reference foryour reward, but like you know I
mean it's reference.
It's like you know, it's like,yeah, like Hamas did this
absolute cheap shot, like ahorrific cheap shot, right.
But then it's like theretaliation is the thing, where

(01:01:03):
it's like what was it?
Oh, okay, you know what here Icould make this type of
reference right when it's likelike a couple of years ago there
was like the Miles, garrett,mason, rudolph like Browns.
Browns Steelers game, right,yeah, so the Steelers like Miles

(01:01:23):
Garrett, like Saks, masonRudolph and all that.
And then I guess, like there'ssome stuff being said and a lot,
and then like Mason Rudolph,but he says something to Mason
Rudolph.
Mason Rudolph says somethinglike in his face and everything,
and they get into it.
And to a point where it's likelike Miles Garrett takes off
Mason Rudolph's helmet andsmashes it on Mason Rudolph's

(01:01:45):
head.
Luckily, like, honestly, likeif it was turned the other way,
mason Rudolph would have beendead, because Miles Garrett is
for those that don't know, milesGarrett is like a fucking unit.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Like he's Freakiest athlete.
Like like it looked.
Like he was concocted in aPetri dish.
Like he is a monster of a man.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
A monster of a man.
He's twice the size of both meand Jordan combined.
Oh yeah, that's how big he is.
So, but like Mason Rudolph, Iguess apparently said something
to Miles Garrett and so causedMiles Garrett to retaliate, and
then he gets the like asuspension for the majority of
the year because of based off ofthat action, right, right,

(01:02:25):
regardless of what Mason Rudolphdid and everything it's like.
The action that Miles Garretttook was totally not excusable.
Like and that's not somethingthat like and that's something
that everyone's like or like.
Oh well, I get it, but youshouldn't have done that.
I think that's kind of thesimilar thing as far like again,
like, not similar, no, I seethe explanation, dude, or the

(01:02:46):
comparison, right, and that'swhat I mean, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
that's what most things in life kind of, how they
work.
You know it's like aninexcusable response.
You know it doesn't excuse thereason of why the response was
that way.
Maybe you're vindicated in thatmoment, right, but it doesn't.
Depending on what the aftermathof that response is, everyone's

(01:03:10):
going to forget the reason whyyou did it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Yeah, everyone's just going to know the action that
you took.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Exactly, yeah, and that's why it's like this, this
whole thing with the conflictthat's going on over there is
it's so hard to just be like oh,I'm one side, I'm this, I'm
that you know, and, at the endof the day, you know, if you're
which I feel like most peopleare probably pro-humanitarian
rights, you know what I mean.
And so, and there's no, there'sno clear cut way to go into it.

(01:03:38):
You know and like look, I have,I have, I have friends that are
Jewish, or you know, and I havefriends that are Muslim and you
know or you know, so it's likeI can.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
People on both sides.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Absolutely hear people out for what their
opinions are and at the end ofthe day, it's like my, my
general opinion on it all islike I don't want any more
fighting and I don't want to seepeople struggle and I hope that
, hey, the bad people on eitherside get taken care of.
Now I know there's you know,it's like you know it was that
you can't make an omelet withoutcracking a few eggs, and that's

(01:04:11):
a terrible fucking term to sayin relation to war, right.
So it's like there is anunderstanding that conflict will
generate collateral damage andI just hopefully that collateral
damage gets mitigated and isless and less moving forward,
because it's super sad to seeanybody lose their life.
That doesn't you know.
That isn't involved, right, andyou know.
So I just.

(01:04:31):
But the other side of me is kindof like looking at it where
it's like dude, I see all theselike pro, whatever rallies and
you're like dude, you don't, youdon't fucking know, dude, you
have no idea.
You know what I mean, or maybeyou do, maybe I do, and if your
family members are over thereand all the stuff, for whatever
side you're on, I absolutelyunderstand the passion that's
behind your stance, Right?
I just think that the otherpeople that you're influencing

(01:04:53):
because they just feel a certainway.
That's where those are thepeople that I'm like.
Take a step back, see what'sgoing on, you know.
Make an educated opinion beforeyou paint your body and show up
to a protest screaming yourheads off.
I mean like that's what I don'tknow.
I feel like it's like the.
It's like the.
It's like the.
Non sport enthusiasts sport dudehonestly and you know what I

(01:05:16):
mean, and it's it's unfortunateto see, because these are big
things and they aren't liketerrible, you know.
So it's like that's why we'regoing back to sit and where it's
like oh, you know, you want tosupport whatever group it is you
want to support.
It's like yeah, I get it, youknow.
Like, but I think, instead ofbeing like, hey, I'm pro
Palestine, I'm pro Israel, youshould be like I'm pro anti war,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Like that's what you want.
I think that's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
You want to paint yourself and all of this.
Whatever that flag is orwhatever that sign you're
holding is like no more innocentdeaths, period dude, on both
sides.
It doesn't mean I'm againstMuslims, it doesn't mean I'm
against Israel.
It doesn't mean anything otherthan I just don't want to see
innocent people die.
Yeah, you know, and it's like Imight be a little bit of a cop
out.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
I'm sure if someone's listening they're like I've
heard you say like yeah, but I'mlike both sides stands for BS
and all that you know like, sureyeah.
You know whatever, but like yeah, no, no, no, I think honestly,
like I do, I agree 100% with you.
I think that as far as andobviously there's there's a lot
more complications within theissue, it's like there's there's

(01:06:17):
a lot more in there, like a lotmore you know just there's a
lot more nuance in the situation.
There is stuff that, like youknow, there are things that,
like you know, people that aremore pro-Palestine or like, or
people that are from Palestine,they have like legitimate
grievances, like 100% everything.
There's like there's stuffinvolved there, but then again

(01:06:39):
there is also grievances forIsrael too, and 100%, like you
know it's like, honestly, Ithink that it's like whoever had
like more backing, likehonestly I kind of think about,
like on the way over here I'mlike you know who has like more
of the like political andfinancial, military backing,
like like would be doing thesame thing to the other side,
and so it's like, honestly, likethere, like there is, like you

(01:07:00):
know, bad blood on both sidesand everything, and I think that
you know there is more to itthan like, oh, this person is
bad, that person is bad.
Like there's a lot of likenuance in this.
I think that you know theaverage.
I feel like the averageAmerican doesn't know about
everything.
And I think that you know it'slike you can't get swept up from
one side or the other about it.

(01:07:22):
And I think that, again, sayingthat I was like yeah, just no,
like no war, like just like nomore innocent lives like taken,
like you know, because, like youknow, it's like again it's just
it's horrible, right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
And yeah, like I had another point too, but you know
it was just well, I feel likeit's something that we could
probably talk about, you know,for a couple hours to be honest
with you, but I will probablywrap it up here, right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
Yeah, about an hour, but now, man, I'm well here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
How about this?
You know, with all the doom andgloom outside of the football
talk that we've had, I'm super,I'm super happy that we were
able to get on here and havelike have fun.
Well, I shouldn't say fun,conversation with what?
we just talked about, but I havea good conversation about it
because it is relevant and it isgoing on.
But at the end of the day, Ithink that for everyone who gets

(01:08:12):
wrapped up into the polarizingpolitical stuff, you know, just
take a deep breath and lookaround you, you know, see what's
going on, and I, honestly, whenI say this out loud, I get
caught up in a lot of stuff too,you know, and, like I, let my
emotions, you know, dictatesometimes how I feel.
But I think the overall goal isto take that step back, try to

(01:08:35):
appreciate everything that youhave in the life where you're at
right now and where it's going,and whether it's good or bad.
If it's bad, try to correct itand get to a good and if it's
good, enjoy the process, becauseit's bad for a lot of people
out there and you got to beappreciative for the things that
you have, and you know there'sso much to talk about of, as far
as you know, things in my lifethat I'm just so fortunate to
have being here in the UnitedStates in a safe area with you

(01:08:57):
know, family, friends, all thatgood stuff.
So I just encourage everyone togo out there, have a great week
, or until the next time we dothis, you know, but I'm just
super pumped.
We were able to get on here andget the chat around a little
bit.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Hell yeah, man, hell yeah, no.
Honestly, that was the onething I remember to say when you
were saying it.
It's like, dude, I think that,like you know, there's a lot to
be grateful for and, like youknow, as mad as the world may
seem and everything, there'sactually a lot of good that we
can be appreciative.
And as far as like how farwe've come technology-wise and,
like you know, quality of life,all like overall, and everything

(01:09:31):
is like we've come a long way,like you know, as a world really
yeah.
And another thing too, likeI'll just leave off with, is
that, like you know, witheverything going on, it's like,
not like.
It's like you don't like like ifyou feel the need that you're
like like earlier, you feelpressured that you have to be an
activist.
You don't, you don't have to bean activist.

(01:09:54):
Like like not everyone has to.
Like you don't have to give adamn about every single thing
that goes along in the worldbecause you're going to be
absolutely miserable, likethat's.
You know you don't need to like.
It's like you know you couldtake a step back, you could take
like again.
Like, look at what's going onin your life and your immediate
life.
It's like again, maybe weshouldn't stay online as much as

(01:10:15):
we may do, right.
And so it's like again, staylike in reality and obviously,
of course, like other people'srealities may be absolutely
horrible, like the people, likein Gaza and like like everything
.
But, like you were just saying,man, just again, like, I think
there's a lot to be grateful forand I think that for the
majority of us, at least here inthe United States, there's a

(01:10:37):
lot like again, like there's alot that I think that, like you
know, we may take for granted.
I think that we need to like,look at and, you know, be
grateful for and that, like youknow again, you know hug your
loved ones.
Like you know, tell them thatyou love them, tell them, like
how much you appreciate them,appreciate the things that you
have that are great going on inyour life.
And, yeah, I just like you know, I'm just I'm seconding, I'm

(01:10:58):
just repeating what you'resaying, but, man, it's
absolutely like, again, I thinkthat's like them.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
That's a huge takeaway that I think that we
should all have and we shouldall, we should all practice what
we preach in that, and I'm justas guilty of that too.
You know it's easier to saystuff than do it, but I think
the premise and moving forwardand having a better outlook on
things is, you know, fallingthrough with that you know, be
appreciative of the things youhave, strive for greatness.

(01:11:25):
And you know, life short, lifeis short, life is super short.
You know what I mean and we tryto make the best of it.
And you know, like we're like,like everything you said to man,
like I think it's a good noteto leave it off of, is like.
Being empathetic is one thing,yes, being a driven activist, if
you will, maybe, is another.
But you know, be supportive andI'm not saying that people

(01:11:49):
can't be supportive of things atall.
Of course, yeah, but you know,like I'm not saying you can't
show support, like I'm notsaying that, but like Well,
showing up and screaming insomeone's face because you are
doing it If you're not a vestedinterest in that is like not the
same as someone you know fromthere essentially you know what
I mean From there who has familymembers there, Like that's like

(01:12:09):
.
I feel, like.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
those are two different things.
If you're like you're just likeyou know, a college student,
that like you, don't, you don'treally again for lack of a
better term have skin in thegame and everything.
But I mean that's so horrible.
Like okay, it makes sense youknow, but yeah, but it's like
that's not a threat, it's notyeah.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, ohJesus, but like, again, like, if
it doesn't, if it doesn'tdirectly affect you, and like

(01:12:31):
you are the one like going outand like doing this.
I'm like, yes, you could showsupport, but it's like you don't
have to be like, it's like youdon't need to be like an
activist yourself, like, butagain, show support, you know,
show care.
And like the four, like theones who, like you know, maybe
going through it, but, like youknow, at the end of the day,

(01:12:52):
it's like just again, just like,live your life, live, live your
life, like you know, so Make itbetter for you and everyone
around.
Exactly Be a positive person.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Or what was the other thing?
Someone always used to say likeyou know, when you go somewhere
, like make it a thing where,like leave it better than how
you found it oh, dude, that'swhat my coach would say it's a
coach thing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Yeah, I was like I've heard that whole idea, that's
what my coach would say,whenever we go into the locker
room, or not the locker room,the the weight room at my high
school, because I remember it,because, like, as football
players, we go in there aftereither the wrestling team or the
basketball team and they wouldlike leave it like an absolute
mess.
And yes, I'm calling, I'mcalling people out at El Toro

(01:13:36):
High School.
It's a wrestler Dude, thefucking wrestlers, I swear to.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
God Dude, you're gross.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Honestly, like you do , like you wouldn't rewrap your
shit and all that, and like,yeah, like yo, and if you, if
you guys like alumni that arehearing this and everything,
like you know, it's like if youwant to come out for me, I said
what I said you guys like, didnot rewrap your weights.
It's a pet peeve of mine, butyou know what it taught me to be
.
It's like again, like, like yousaid, leave it better than how
you found it, and I think that'sa huge, I think that's the

(01:14:03):
greatest takeaway Everything.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
It's a it's a.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
It's a.
It's a cliche term that I'veheard growing up, but you know
what?
It's a very good euphemism forlife.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Exactly.
And you know, hopefullypositive influence, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Exactly, man.
Well, shoot, dude, we'll wrapit up, man.
Thank you so much for coming on.
Normally this is Tim's MO, butcan we do a?
Let's go on three All right One, two three let's go, let's go,
bye everybody.

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