Season #1 Final: Merry Christmas

Our final episode for this year is a tapestry of emotion, woven with threads of personal triumphs and the contrasting shadows of the holiday season. We share our experiences, from the joyous buzz of giving during a toy drive to the sobering reality of those who find themselves isolated during festivities meant to bring warmth and camaraderie.

With laughter and vulnerability, we traverse the undulating terrain of life's journey, acknowledging the power of forgiveness and the profound impact of relationships. I recount the comical tale of a restroom debacle that turns into a moment of universal empathy and an unexpected reminder to cherish the simple things. We also delve into the stabilizing rituals that keep us grounded, from the discipline of routine workouts to the cathartic release found within the pages of a journal. It's in these candid exchanges that we discover the shared heartbeat of our community, each beat a testament to the resilience we foster within ourselves and each other.

As the episode unwinds, the threads of our conversation are finished with the challenges and triumphs of transformation. We reflect on the bittersweet dance of parenting, the shifting perceptions of our parents through the lens of adulthood, and the enduring gratitude for the podcast family that rallies around us. The journey is punctuated with stories that resonate—a firefighter's solace in our words—and the unflinching honesty of facing the discomforts necessary for growth. Join us for an homage to the past and a toast to the future, a conversation as rich and varied as the lives we lead.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome back to our last monthly review of the year
for December.
So everybody knows JordanJimiola, our host.
He's about to have his thirdchild.
So, jordan, congrats.
We love you and you are in fulldad mode.
Cheers dude Evan here today.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
What's up?
What's up?
Man Cheers Jordan Dude's.
So happy for you guys, lookingforward to meeting the little
one.
Heck, yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, it's going to be good.
And then also, Sam, our cameraoperator is not here.
He's got engaged.
He got engaged.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
And it's his birthday today.
It's his birthday today.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Happy birthday Sam happy birthday, buddy Woo.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Dude, so much going on.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
There's a lot going on this month.
There's a lot.
There's a lot, a lot of changecoming for next year, but it's
been a good year and I'm excitedto see what 2024, that rolls
better.
Huh, not 2024, 2024?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
2024, yeah, it rolls off the top.
Yeah, we'll do 2024.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
But anyways, yeah, we're going to wrap this up.
This is going to be a shorterpodcast than normal, but if you
can, please like, subscribe onYouTube, instagram, spotify,
facebook, all that, all yourmajor podcast platforms.
We are there.
We'd really appreciate it.
Thank you Very much.
But anyways, man, it's the endof the year and, just like

(01:28):
everybody else, I'm sure it'sbeen a year full of ups and
downs, or some say the highs andlows.
Yes, the trials and tribulations, the trials and tribulations,
boy, that's an understatement,right, but for me there's still
a lot to be thankful for forthis year, even though we're
living in a time that seems likethere's a lot of shifting sand

(01:50):
or unstable ground.
A good example for me today isthat there's still hope in
people, because I volunteered tohelp at work, to like pick up
toys with the toys for tots orsomething, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I can't remember, People should probably know the
name.
Yeah, Anyways, they drop it offat the fire station fire
stations for people to, you know, for them to come pick up and
hand out to needy families andstuff.
So yeah, I went around, I hadlike a route where I went to six
or seven different stations andI had a van and I will tell you
right now that van was packed.

(02:24):
It's like one of those likeplumber vans or loading vans
where there's no seats in theback right.
No, windows.
Yeah, man, there's bikes, bagsfull of toys I had I was
stuffing.
I was trying to get the bikesin and my my thought was like
wow, yeah, this is super cool.
This is super cool, it'sshowing me that there's still
hope in people and humanity andthat people still care Big time.

(02:45):
There may be differences as faras your political views,
religious or whatever it is yeah, but people still care.
It was really cool to see that.
It kind of it blew me away alittle bit.
I'm like all right, all rightthere.
You know, we're not all piecesof crap out here and this whole
society isn't falling apart likethe feels, like the news is
saying, yeah, there's certainthings that need to change, but
it was.
It was cool to witness that andsee and be a part of it.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
You know, it's funny because I think that when we
like, like we've we've talked onhere about the past, of like as
far as like with what, the news, what they want you to see, and
like that you know life is hardand life is difficult, and like
it is unforgiving, right, buton the flip side, there's so

(03:26):
much humanity still going on.
I think that there's, you know,we could turn on the news and
get angry about, like this it'slike these people are the blame
or those people are the blame.
It's like it's either them orus and everything you know.
But when you go outside intolike regular everyday life,
especially around this time too,it's just like it is magical,

(03:49):
like this time is magicalbecause of, like you know,
people want to give people, orlike, like people kind of
remember, like, oh yeah, youknow, we do good things for each
other because that's how wemove along as a race.
Really, like you know, we moveforward because of the community
that we build and it's like,it's like that, that well-being

(04:10):
of, or like that good cheer as,like you know, the Christmas,
the joy of Christmas.
The joy of Christmas, yeah, butnot getting it down, Not having
what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
And what's interesting and sad is I was
listening to a bunch of podcastsand they were saying the people
that do studies this time ofyear and how this time of year
is when people are the mostlonely, the saddest and most
suicidal, and I couldn't believe.
I was like wait a minute whatI'm thinking from my point of
view.
I try to look at perspectivesfrom from, you know, a full

(04:40):
world like 360 view right, top,bottom, left, right, not just
from my one vision, but, veryblessed, I've worked hard for
what I have.
I come from a solid family.
Do we have our own madness anddirt and craziness?
Yeah, every family does.
It's wild right, but we stillhave always been there for each
other and helped each otherthrough hard times.
And I couldn't I couldn'timagine this time of year being

(05:02):
without family and being on yourown.
How tough that must be.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
You know, it started to hit me when I thought about
it.
I'm like, wow, I can.
I can see, then, why they'regetting these statistics that
are so high of people feelingthat loneliness when it's kind
of like that special time ofyear it's ending and people are
traveling back home to seefamily members or friends or
whatever it may be, and so it'slike it bummed me out to hear
that.
But it also makes me have moreempathy when you're out and

(05:29):
about doing stuff and trying to,especially in my career field
what I do Right.
Yeah, and especially this timeof year it's kind of like dang
man, it's rough.
So it's why it was for me itwas nice to drive around and
pick up toys and drop them off.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
That's amazing and I think you know it's interesting.
It's like you know, usuallyaround this time it's like
you're, it's very happy andfestive, or it's very sad and
lonely and like, and sometimesit's like either, like you know,
missing someone who's no longerhere with us, and I think it's

(06:05):
like you know it reminds you ofa time that's no longer here and
everything you know that's andI think for people like that,
it's like obviously having a lotof sympathy and empathy for
these, for those people, andjust you know, reach out to your
friends, reach out to yourfriends, your family, and you
know it's again like it's notalways going to be festive for

(06:26):
everybody.
just like you know reaching outand like not nothing crazy, just
like letting, like letting themknow that you love them and
that you care about them.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
And I can go a long way.
Love the ones you got rightExactly Time.
Here is quick, yeah, I right.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Dude, I like, honestly, I think, as far as
like, with like as this yearends, right, one of the things
that I think that we all getcaught up with I definitely do
is that you get so caught up inlife and like with how the year
is, like, oh shit, the year'sending, right, and I've noticed
this recently for myself that I,I think it's like.

(07:05):
I think it's like, like it'slike I do my best not to take
things for granted and be verygrateful for what I have and who
I have in my life, andsometimes I think I catch myself
slip in of like you know, likeNot not having as much gratitude
as I meet, like I I should,yeah, and I think that, as far
as like this time of year,obviously it's like it shouldn't

(07:26):
end, they shouldn't like youshouldn't save it till the end
of the year, but like this is agreat time to like reflect on
the highs and lows of the yearof like you know what went
really well this year, that youreally enjoyed, what Didn't
necessarily plan to work out theway that you wanted to, and
like how could you've handled itbetter and then again, keeping

(07:50):
reminding yourself of like youknow, the gratitude that you
have of like you know who youhave in your life or what you
have in your life.
You know, like understanding,that's like oh Well, how you
were now compared to five yearsago.
It's like there's a bigdifference and I'm like there's
a lot of growth that happenedthere that we take for granted.
So I think that this time ofyear is, I think it's just a

(08:10):
beneficial time that, if youallow it to be, you know, and
like taking that time to reflecton like I think it's great to
have self-reflection, especiallyin Like this time of year,
because again it's years and thenew year is, like is upon us
and you know, yeah, it's likeit's in a couple weeks.
Literally it's two weeks.
It's two weeks from yesterday,right?

(08:31):
So, yeah, it's quick, you know,and so, like dude is quick, this
year went by quick and like Ithink that I only gets faster
and faster.
But sometimes we just need tolike be present in the moment
and that we need to like justabsorb as much as we can,
because the time that we do have, we don't know how long or how
short it's gonna be, and sothat's something that I don't
know, I was driving down hereand I was like kind of just

(08:52):
thinking about that.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
I'm like yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
I, I just uh, like, I , like I just need to appreciate
the things that I have rightnow and the friends I have, like
now, like again for you, forexample, tim, like dude, I
fucking love you man.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh, my man, thank you .

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Hey, so like.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
I appreciate you and like.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
I'm very grateful for what you've done for me
throughout the years and, likeyou know, I just wanted to like
take the time honestly, likeagain you and the guys I mean
dude, like you guys are justagain like Don't want to get
sentimental here, I think youknow it's like, but you guys,
honestly, like you know, doingthis with you guys is just it
does mean a lot, and like I amvery happy to take time out of

(09:30):
my day to like whenever I can,to come down and, like you know,
chat it up with you boys.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Oh, heck, yeah, no, appreciate the words really do,
but you do hit a lot of goodpoints, Hit on a lot of good
points.
It's easy to get stuck in thatnegative mode and I struggle
with that at times.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
I mean, I know.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
I did this week.
It's like I have a lot of greatthings going on.
I still felt like, oh my gosh,I'm not good enough, I'm not
doing well enough.
And yeah, and you look, sitback, you take a second.
It's like, wait a minute, I'mactually doing really well.
Yeah this is, first of all,problems.
What am I tripping out over?
You know, yeah, you know,looking back on the year,
there's a lot this year.
This I would say for me, thisyear was one of the first years
it's not nuts where I reallydon't have any like Regrets as

(10:14):
far as regret of doing thingsI'm not supposed to be doing or
treating people wrong orwhatever.
It's kind of like I really try.
I've been trying to pass, I'dsay, a year and a half to years
to To change how I talk topeople, how I present myself to
others, being more intentionalwith my time.
Yeah, listening.
I think this podcast is maybe avery good listener because we
come on here we don't haveanything written down.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
We just hit record like, hey, let's see what goes.
We don't have a script.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, but you know it was an intentional year and a
year, a lot of year of growthand, for me at least, from my
faith and the things that I'vebeen really trying to put into
practice now taking that moreserious forgiveness and how
difficult that can be,especially when it's Family,
close friends.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, like two what's normal people?

Speaker 1 (10:56):
I'm like whatever dude say what you want, I don't
care, but it's when it'ssomething, when it's people you
actually care about and you loveman.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
It's a little deeper.
It stings a little more.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Oh, yeah, yeah, it really does.
But it comes down to for me,you know my from in my own life
in this year and the growth thatI've had spiritually and just
personally In my relationshipswith family and people I love,
the more I took my face seriousbetter, better those things got,
and that's not saying that's,you know.

(11:27):
You know, turner Brown, you'regoing to hell.
You know I'm not that type ofperson, right, I'm not gonna be
that way.
But I came really see thatthose things that you pull from
scripture and living a betterlife and how you treat others,
and the biggest one for me isforgiveness, doc, and I look
back, you know, many times Iwant to forgive.
I still won't forgive this fromcertain people from my past.
Right, but passes past.

(11:47):
You can't change what'shappened, but, dude, it's, it's
very healing in a way.
So, like you're letting offthis Excuse me, this boulder
that's on your shoulder, you'refine releasing it, yeah, and you
realize everything everyonesaid when you're younger it's
not for the person, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
You know I was.
I was gonna say it's like youknow, it's, it's not, it's not
about them, it's it's for you.
But I, I understand exactlywhat you're saying.
Yeah, as far as like, it's likeyou know, forgiveness is a lot
harder, maybe because it's likeyou, you're the one that has to
like, has to handle iteverything, because whatever the

(12:29):
other person did, they did it,whether they feel like remorse
for it or not.
Like it's not really on you howthey feel, because, like,
they're gonna feel how they feeland sometimes they're not gonna
feel anything, they're gonna belike no, no big deal, like I
didn't.
Like is like, if they're notgonna, it's like they're not
gonna see it.
The same that you do, yeah, butit's like it is about you kind

(12:51):
of relinquishing and letting goof that because, again, if you
hold on, it's like holding on toit, it still has control over
you.
Yeah, and like it like itdictates kind of what you do or
how you are, and Sometimes itholds you down and weighs you
down.
So, like, by letting go again,like it lift, like you lift
yourself back up.
Yeah and I think that you knowthat, for forgiveness is

(13:14):
powerful and again I say this,but you know there are some
things that, like, are hard tolet go, and I got understand
that.
But, like that's, it's aprocess of letting go.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, yeah, I'm a hundred percent.
I'm bored with everything thatyou just said and you know
what's so great about I think ifyou're self-aware and you're
really trying to do better andyou're trying to grow, you're
gonna look back and say, hey, Icould have done better here, or
oh, I was cool to see that everyday, man.

(13:50):
How far we've come in a year andall that, but for me, you know,
for this past year of just hope, yeah, it's really brought.
You know, it may I don't knowwhy I just got emotional saying
hope, but because there's beenso many times in my life where I
didn't have hope, you know, andyou feel like you're alone and
you're not gonna make it, andyou know to.
To know what that feels likeand then be on the other side

(14:12):
now and to be doing well and Tobe able to speak to others who
are in difficult positions, isvery unique.
Yeah and I've been able to havea lot of people who've listened
to the podcast Message orfriends text me like hey, this
person, this guest, you had saidthis, or you said that I don't
know that this person evenstruggled with that and never
would have thought.
Or I didn't know you strugglewith this, or you Know, you said

(14:33):
this quote that was pretty cool, or yeah, something along those
lines.
So it's been nice to have thosevery deep conversations,
conversations with people and tome they're priceless.
It's cool to be able to connectwith you, know people that you
care about, fellow human beingsthat are Going through life just
like you are, have highs andlows, difficult times, and you
can actually say, hey, I've beenthere, like it's not the end.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, you know, I know I can.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Maybe I know what you're going to, maybe I don't,
but I can definitely empathizewith you, you know, and say this
there's gonna be like the endof tunnel and it's gonna get
good.
And we're in in 2023 on areally high note with the
podcast and just all of us inour personal lives and however
thing is just thriving.
And you know we talked aboutearlier, looking towards the
future for next year, what we'regonna change in the podcast,
what we're gonna do and changethings up, because you need

(15:20):
change.
Yeah, you need to becontinually evolving and trying
to be better.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
I'm a firm believer in that.
I feel like if you are someonewho loves comfort and stagnant,
that's a slow death and and I'vewitnessed it, I've been that
way some that some points in mylife or just kind of Sat around
it nothing, yeah, at some pointsit's okay, I think.
Well, you know it's okay to sitaround sometimes.
Sometimes you need that, thatlike, okay, I need a second to

(15:45):
myself, but you got to know when.
All right, need to get back towork here.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, I think that sometimes Sitting still actually
kind of helps you move forward.
I think that's sometimes sitting, but I guess like it's Like
sitting still with your, withyour thoughts, and like
stillness and everything andhaving that.
Because, again, if we'reconstantly moving, sometimes
Sometimes movement isn't alwaysforward, sometimes backwards,

(16:09):
sometimes like you go off track,right, yeah, sometimes you need
that stillness for clarity andlike you need that time to just
like kind of recharge and likeunderstand again, like that
reflect, finding out like whatyou need to do.
I honestly like for me, like I,like I've had like a sometime To
where I'm, like I'm notnecessarily moving as fast

(16:29):
forward as I want to be in likemy own like business life, right
, not, I'm not doing bad at all,by the way, it's like, but it's
, it's a thing where I'm likeyou need to stop sometimes but
just to see like okay, whatdirection do I want to go in?
Right, because like that's thething, and like what you're just
saying, too, is like we'reConstantly evolving, where it's
like, yes, like move and adapt,and like you know, like you

(16:52):
start out with like having avision of one thing, but again,
like sometimes like it's likeit's not, that's not how life
works.
I go here and then you go here.
It's like no, you usually goand go up this route and then
you turn around the other sideand then you come out a little
bit of a different person towhere.
It's like no, you need itslightly.
I just did to make it a littlebit more refined and more of a
clear vision of what you trulywant.

(17:12):
Yeah, so that's what I gottasay about.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Mom, and no, it's cool, it's nice to.
I'm feeling the ease of finallythe end of the year, and so
people know, in here too we'regonna.
Usually we did this past coupleyears, but January is where we
take a month off from recordingand everyone just kind of start
in the year.
Start to your nice, relax, doyour thing, and so I'm looking
forward to hanging with family,relaxing and kind of not being

(17:40):
in this workflow or we're alwayshere, right, hustle, hustle,
hustle.
We also need time to relax.
Yeah, you gotta.
You gotta have the time toyourself to reflect and renew
and refresh and, I think, getcreative again.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
You know, yeah, I think it comes in seasons where
it's like you know, there'sthere are seasons that you know
that, like you know, you go likefor these like sprints of, like
just grinding away and all andlike just maxing out as much as
you can.
And then there are times in likeperiods in the year, periods in
life when you're just like,okay, I think I need to just
kind of, like you know, cruise alittle bit and everything, not

(18:13):
necessarily like Stal completely, but like, just like, okay,
cruise, sometimes you do need tostop, you do need to, like you
know you need to fill up on gasand everything before you keep
on going right.
But like you just like, thereare times where it's like, yeah,
like there are times to sprint,there are times to walk, yes,
and so you know, yeah, januaryit's just gonna be kind of a

(18:34):
time to just kind of just cruisearound and the like, just like
in the pool area, just like,have a nice little Kick back
just relax, dude, not be understress.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Dude, you want to hear a really funny story about
stress?
Oh boy, this happened to me.
Okay, and this is not.
This is not the first time thishas happened, I'm ashamed to
say, but I would just tell you,when you are stuck in traffic
and you need to go to therestroom because you've been
drinking coffee all morning, bro, there's a panic, there's a

(19:04):
panic in your body that sets in.
Yeah, that it's, it's.
You can't describe.
It's like, okay, I'm going tocut across five lanes of traffic
right now, for I'm gonna breaka bunch of laws because I'm not
gonna be a grown person who goesto the restroom myself.
For we're gonna do this.
And this was.
I had just got done surfing, ohboy, yeah, and I got to the

(19:28):
water and I baked coffee.
It was doing my thing and Iloaded up Barbie.
I was heading home and it'sfunny because I have my RV right
well, I Drive to go get gasright.
But for some reason on PCHthere was a car that was like
broken down.
It wasn't a car, is actuallylike a really big bus, oh shit,

(19:48):
right, and it didn't get pulledover all the way.
So it's kind of like jamming uptraffic over a thing.
It's like PCH and Warner.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Oh yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, you know so.
And why I can use RVs?
Because after I got donesurfing, I had used the last of
the water to rinse off, so I wasgetting all the sand off myself
and my board real quick and I'mlike, oh, I ran out.
You never, you shouldn't dothat in your RV.
Anyways, I was just lays thatmorning.
I didn't fill it up, so I'mgoing and dude hits me.

(20:14):
Yeah, I need to go to therestroom now.
Yeah, like right now, to thepoint where I took my seatbelt
off and undid my Bell buckle andthis is terrible, oh yeah.
So long story short, I get tothe gas station G, I park my RV

(20:36):
terrible try to run in and thereis the one restroom and it's
full.
So I go over to this restaurant.
That's like across the way.
Yeah, and I try to.
You know, mosey and quick, I'mmoving fast and I just go right
into the restroom and installand do my thing.
Yeah, I Hear female voices.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
No.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
I hear female voices and I was like, wait a minute.
Oh, I don't think this is themill restroom.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Oh wow.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, news to say I I stayed in there a little bit
long to wait for all the femalesto leave, but you know they
keep coming in and out right andlet me tell you they use the
restroom Just like the men do.
It's pretty wild.
It was a wild experience.
You know, I get out of therestroom as soon as I walk out,
all eyes around me and I justlike, oh my god, I bounced, I

(21:30):
went straight to my rig and left.
Yeah, but, you know it's likethe and I shit it shouldn't be
this way, right?
You know, as first respondersfireforsied, cheap, teach you
how to handle stress and allthat type of stuff, but I'm
sorry, that's a different stress.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's a whole differentthing and it was super
embarrassing and I left and liketwo minutes in driving I just

(21:51):
busted up laughing.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
It's just like whatever dude, it is what it is.
Dude it's, oh my god.
Like I remember when I wasgoing to college.
So it was like I was working inIrvine but I was going to stay
at Long Beach and so I work allmorning and so I would have
probably about like three cupsof coffee and all that like by

(22:15):
11 o'clock, 12 o'clock, yeah,and so I'd go straight from work
to drive to the school, whichyou know like it was a good like
, maybe, like you know, a 40minute drive and everything.
But sometimes like there'd betraffic, horrible traffic, and
there was, and it was like itwas around, yeah, just just past

(22:37):
, just past Fountain Valley.
Basically it was like thetraffic was all backed up and I
was like, hmm, I need to go tothe restroom.
It was a parking lot and prettymuch it wasn't moving for a
good while time and by the timethat like it started inching, I
was like, holy cow, I need to go.
Like you know that cold sweatsthat you get, yeah.

(22:58):
I think, it was like to thething where I'm like I need to
find something.
I almost didn't make it to him,but I found a coffee bean and I
, like you though I did not gointo the women Thanks, coffee
bean.
Thank you, thank you for beingso generous and letting me go,
and all it without buyinganything, because I was a broke
college kid, even though I wasworking, but, yeah, never had

(23:19):
any money but dude, oh my Godlike that.
But you know what, though, whenyou sat down in the toilet,
what a relief.
Oh, the relief AbsolutelyDoesn't compare to anything else
.
That relief, is.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Dude it's like it's blissful Dude yeah, yeah yeah,
it's like you have climbed thismountain.
That seemed unclimbable and youmade it to the top.
It's like entering the gates ofheaven, mountain Everest, right
there, Bro I mean there'snothing more satisfying.
Then you finally make it there.
It's like, oh my God, thank you.

(23:53):
And then reality hits.
I'm in the women's restroom.
You know, it's like now I needto deal with this, but anyways,
I just thought that was a greatstory.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
That was a great story.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, I liked it.
Yeah, I liked it.
Yeah, there's.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
So that happened more than once.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
That happened a long time ago.
A long time ago I was datingthis girl down in San Diego.
Oh OK, it happened that onetime it was rough dude.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Man.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Super rough.
So that's why, yeah, I justlike Now you have a fun story to
tell though.
Yeah, the embarrassment thoughwalking out and feeling all the
eyes kind of come on you andeveryone's like what is weirdo.
You know it's like no, it wasan accident, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Is that my bad?

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, it won't happen again.
I was rushing, yeah, but, dude,you know I think I wanted to
ask you.
Yeah, because I felt it thisweek.
You know, I put a little thingup on social media talking about
it.
But you know how do you combatwhen you're not feeling well as
far as about yourself, oremotionally, mentally, feeling
down.
Is it going to the gym?

(24:48):
Is it working out?
Because, for me, you know, Ineed to get out, I need movement
.
Yes, I need the sun on my face.
I can't, I need to get out ofthe house.
That's why mountain biking orsurfing in the morning, running,
cycling, something where I getmovement in and I'm working and
focusing, really, really helpsme.
I was wondering if you're thesame way.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, no, I thought a lot of the same way.
Actually, honestly, again,having a routine does wonders as
far as like for like helpingwith that, like just like in
general, but like, but yeah, no,like getting getting great
workouts in, like honestly, likeif I'm feeling down myself, but
then I have like a really goodworkout.

(25:26):
Like I may feel a little I maystill feel a little down about
myself, but I'm like I feel atleast good enough.
It's like that was a fuckinggreat workout.
Yeah, and all you know but thatgoing and taking the dog for a
walk and all that and also justcommunicating too.
I think communication like ifyou're feeling down, letting
your partner know like hey, bythe way, this is how I'm feeling

(25:48):
right now, yeah, just because,like, if you don't like,
sometimes, like it's just like,if you don't communicate that
then they're like okay, what'sup with them?
Is it me, did I do somethingwrong?
And it's just like.
It's like no, it's like it'sit's all me, but like I just
need to let you know that likehey, like I'm not feeling the
greatest about myself andsometimes, like you know, like
like talking to somebody,letting somebody know, it's like

(26:10):
you know I'm feeling this way,talking it out with somebody and
everything, whether that belike you know you're a
significant other, like atherapist, a close friend, like
letting them know, and all thatbecause sometimes they'll kind
of help remind you, like of whoyou are.
Basically because sometimes,like, do the things that go on
in between these years, like theneighborhood that that's in

(26:32):
isn't always the best, sometimeslike there's like some real
asshole tenants in there and allthat like, and they, they like
to bring in their two cents, andso, like, sometimes you need
reminders.
I mean, I think David Gogginstalks about it too, like like
the cookie jar, right, like youneed to get a cookie right yeah.
Like dude, like you're thatmotherfucker, you know it's like

(26:53):
, yeah, you know like, yeah,like, but like you're like, oh,
I accomplished this, oh, Iactually have this going on for
me right now Like, having likereminders, like, so I think it's
a combination of things.
It's like movement isdefinitely the biggest thing
Getting outside, gettingmovement in, doing something to
like, getting something to, youknow, push yourself, like, exert

(27:17):
yourself physically.
I think that's one like onemain thing.
Second thing is, like you know,journaling, writing out stuff,
writing out like mind dumping,writing out your thoughts,
writing out like what's buggingyou, because, typically, when,
whenever you end up writingstuff, you end up coming to your
own solutions, and then alsocommunicating, talking with

(27:38):
people, like people know, likethose close around you you know
like how are you feeling, thepeople that you can trust, and
all that and that, like you know, cause talking to them, they
kind of help, whether they like,whether they're intentionally
doing it or not.
It's like they kind of helpremind you of who you are and
who you're not, and I think thatit's a combination of those

(27:58):
things that really helped me.
I think you know, I mean like Ihave, I have great people in my
life that, like you know, if Ido feel down I could talk to
them.
I do go with therapy, like I dotalk about it.
Sometimes I feel like, ifthings are going well, I'm like
I feel awkward in therapy rightnow because I don't know what to
talk about.
I don't feel pretty good.

(28:18):
And then other times I'm like,hey, so I'm feeling all this
shit right now.
How do I go about doing this?
And but honestly, like I thinkthe gym for me it's been the one
constant Cause.
Like you know, I've had.
I've had friends come and go,I've had family members, that's
like you know.
I can't really trust them withthis stuff because it feels

(28:39):
awkward.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
You know, do.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Oh, yeah, it's just like but you know, not to say
that I don't love like.
I love my family, like, andeverything Like I could talk to
them about a lot of stuff, butthere's just sort of things that
I'm like I don't really want totalk to them about, right, but
the one thing that's been aconstant is been the gym for me,
and yeah, I think that, like, Imean, how about you, man, like
what do you do?

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, it's it's definitely, it's definitely
getting up, it's definitelymovement, the gym and all that
Cause I'm my own worst enemy Bigtime.
I am very, very, very hard onmyself, probably to the point
where it's like, hey, dude,you're kind of mean.
Hey, hey, it's like you know,I've heard someone say that If
people could hear how I talk tomyself, they'd probably be very,

(29:22):
you know, ashamed.
Right, how can you say thatabout yourself or what you're
doing?
You know, and, and that's why alot of times I have to get out
and get that movement or, likeyou do, talk to somebody like,
hey, man, I'm feeling this wayabout this and and you know, a
lot, most times we're like, bro,you're way overthinking right
now.
Yeah, yeah, like just relax.
Or sometimes like, yeah, hey,you know, let's talk about that,
maybe we could change somethinghere or do something different

(29:43):
here.
But the overthinking for me is ahuge issue.
I haven't been working that outwith therapy and I got like an
appointment next week and samething, I 100% believe in it, I,
and I believe in it for men andwomen, but especially coming
from a male perspective, yeah, Ithink men need to understand.
It's OK, go for it, talk tosomebody Big time, tell them

(30:05):
that you're having a hard timeand struggle.
And it's OK to have emotion.
It's good to cry, to feel sad,to feel joy, to feel, you know,
uneasy at times.
These are emotions that are Godgiven to help you process
certain things not sit there andsuppress it.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
You know, not talk about like this is the manly
thing to do, like no, you needto talk about it.
Yeah, it's OK to talk about.
I was like that for most of mylife and that's no like hit on
anybody else that maybe is doingthat, or how I was raised in.
You know the household I was in, but you're talking about
different generations, raisingnew generations, Right, and
cultures change, things change,right.
And then talking about you know, for my own family, my parents,

(30:41):
where they came from, my dadwas born in 41.
My mom was born in 51.
Yeah, my mom's black, yeah, mydad's white.
You don't think my mom wentthrough some stuff in the south
in the 50s and 60s, when racismwas just booming?
Yeah, oh, like you're.
Oh, absolutely, she wentthrough a lot, you know.
And on top of that, what my dadhad to deal with when he grew

(31:02):
up with it in his family In theexample he had.
Now they're taking that totheir kids, right, right, and
they had me a little bit late.
My dad was 44 when he had me.
Yeah, we were talking about aguy who was raised in the 50s,
60s, right, young man, yeah, andnow he's raising it up a son he
had in the 80s yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah.
So those are things like you goto therapy.
They help you kind of breakdown and think about those
things that you've dealt with,whether it's childhood trauma or
something that happened in yourthought life.
You start realizing there'sthese things of why and how and
why people act the way they do,and it's actually made me a lot
more forgiving and empathy.
You start realizing, you know,hurt people, hurt people, man.

(31:41):
It's like, oh, I wonder whatthat person's going through.
You know, the other day, youknow, someone cut me off and
flipped me off.
I swear I wasn't doing anythingwrong, I was just driving.
Apparently they were in a rushand it was.
It was the morning.
It was like 7.30 in the morning.
I was going down the beach, soof course I'm cruising.
You know, I'm like I have theday off, I have nothing going on
.
They're jamming pop.
Wow, I'm like, come around andflip me off.
It's like whatever dude.

(32:02):
But what am I gonna do?
Flip them off back and, youknow, get an argument with this
dude?
No, it's not worth it.
But you start realizing.
You know again that you knowwhere you come from.
I think it's very important toknow where you come from and,
understanding your parents andtheir childhood and what they
went through, you know, youstart to realize oh okay, now I
see why they kind of were theway they were, which I don't

(32:24):
have anything bad to say.
There's no book on raising kids.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
You figure it out as a kid, right Like and being a
dad now it's like, it's like oh,it's hilarious, like the moment
like again, every dad, I think,could relate to this.
They're like our most dads can.
It's just like that momentwhere it's like you do something
and you're like oh shit, I'm mydad, you know like, or I got my

(32:48):
cause, like, it's like almostidentical to being like, oh, I.
It's like I remember when mydad did this to me and
everything where it's like I getit now, kind of thing.
You know, I think that it'sfunny, cause I feel like there
are times I mean, maybe this isnot with every parent, but like
there, there's definitely a timewhere it's like I was resentful

(33:09):
how things kind of turned outas far as like with stuff with
my childhood, and, like you know, I think that there's a point
in time where it's like, oh, Idon't want to be like as
independent from your parents aspossible, but then it's like,
you know, cause, like you seethem, I think it's like as a
young kid, it's like yourparents or dad, larger than life
and everything.

(33:29):
And then you know it's like youget to a point where that image
gets broken.
And then, like, there's a pointin time where you're like
almost resentful because you'rejust like, it's like you're not
the ideal of who I thought youwould be.
And then you know, it's likeyou go through that.
And then it's like, you know,going through the life cycle of

(33:51):
getting to a point where you'rean adult, you're like, oh, you
know what I think it's like Iunderstand why they did what
they did or how like they raised, or like who they were as a
person.
And then, when you become like,and then when you become a dad
yourself, then you're like, ohno, I get exactly why they did,
exactly what they did.
And then obviously there aresome things that you disagree

(34:11):
with, but you know, it's aninteresting thing of like.
It's an interesting thing, thisthing called life, you know.
But you know it's a-.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Mystery of life, man, the highs and lows and the
tragedies and wild times peoplego through, why some people have
great success and why somepeople struggle the whole time,
cause I've dealt with it.
You look at it.
I was like God, lee, man, howin the heck, how's that person
doing that good?
You know, like I've been waybetter decisions, you know.
Or someone gets ahead thatyou're, you know that promotion

(34:41):
at work and you didn't get it.
It's like that guy's kind ofweird and not that smart.
So how did he get that Like?
How did that work out?
But you know, what I've learnedis, you know, I think I'm a
firm believer that things happenin our lives for a reason.
And you're at, we're at for areason, cause there's something
you need to pick up and learn,yeah, something you can get from
it.
You know, instead of looking atfrom the negative point of view

(35:02):
what kind of I'm always, whatcan I do to change, be different
and do better this time andmove forward from a certain
event or decision that hashappened and again it's moved me
into this year of way lessregret, a lot more being
intentional and a lot ofgratitude, especially for me,
cause my parents are older mydad's 80, 85, he's born 41,

(35:24):
whatever.
Anyways, my dad's is mid 80s,mom's 75, you know they're not
gonna be around forever Tryingto.
Is it a lot sometimes to chatwith my mom?

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, dog yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
I love her dude if I call him like man.
You're such a gypsy mom.
I love you so much you're sowild yeah.
Not to say gypsy, is a bad thing.
But I always tell him likeyou're eccentric and I love it,
cause she does her own thing, itdoesn't care, yeah, you know.
So it's pretty cool, but it's ayear of gratitude and being
thankful, and thankful forpeople who've been tuning into
this podcast and it's been.
It's been humbling too.

(35:56):
It's pretty cool to be able todo this and then make all the
connections that we've madethrough it, people that we get
to come on and chat about lifeand how some stores have been so
inspiring for people, even onefirefighter who finally sought
help.
He was having really low, darktimes in his life and he
listened to a few episodes andhow we've talked about mental

(36:17):
health and that it's okay toreach out any day and finally
got the help he needed.
You know, to me that'spriceless man.
Yeah that's amazing, you know.
It's like, oh okay, we're doingsomething right.
Yeah, we're doing somethinggood here, 100%.
You know we're having thatimpact on someone's life, and so
it's.
There's a lot of gratitude forthis year.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
There really is.
I'm very thankful and I want tostay on that track.
I want to keep my faith strong.
I want to keep going down theroad that I'm going.
That has a lot of change.
Has it been easy?
Not at all Right.
Has someone been, you know, fun, or you know a little bit hard
or a little bit easy?
Yeah, there's nothing.
It's a mixture of all of it, ofcourse, yeah, but the reality

(36:56):
is change is hard.
When you're changing behavioror taking your life in a
different direction.
You're going to, you're goingto leave things behind, yeah,
whether that's relationships,sometimes family, yeah, friends,
and that's hard.
I've noticed that with a lot ofpeople.
It's hard for them to let go offriends or family or things
they know that aren't good forthem.

(37:16):
I've lost friends this year.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, oh, dude, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
You know you're like, okay, if you don't want to be a
part of my life, or that youjust stop talking.
It's one of those things You're.
Everyone's life starts to go indifferent directions and if you
are trying to be different andchange, sometimes that's hard
for people to see.
They may know your past, orthey don't agree with what
you're doing, or it just couldbring up that they're.
They don't have the strength towant to do better for

(37:41):
themselves.
Yeah, you're going to get hateand people talking trash.
You don't lie, I mean, that'swhat it is.
Yeah, I always tell people whatare you going to do?
Take my birthday away?
Yeah, like, fine, don't like me, dude, honestly, dude.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
It reminds me of this quote I saw on Instagram the
other day and, like, honestly,like I saved it, but I'm like it
, like it hit me and everythinga little bit, and it goes a
little bit more of like what youwere just saying.
But you know, in order to growinto the person that we want to
be, we have to let go of theperson we are.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Ooh.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
And I I just like it.
Like I remember I was readingthat and I could just like
stopped.
I was like, wow, that reallyhit me.
Like honestly, and like I'vebeen ruminating on on just that
quote the last couple of days,I'm like who am I currently?
And like, but who do I want tobecome?
And like, what do I need to letgo in order to become that?

(38:34):
Like, like, what part of myselfdo I need to let go?
Yeah, in order for me to riseup to that occasion?
Yeah, and you know, like thereare things that like that's
that's the thing where it's likeyou know there are like you
can't take everything with you,like there are gonna be things
that you pick up and there aregonna have to be other things
that you have to like leave inthe past.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Because sometimes those things are the things that
are weighing you down in orderfor you to do the great things
that you were meant to do.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Oh, man, dang son, let's go, dude.
It's true.
What's the remember innerseller?
He has a quote in there.
I say it all the time Is itmight be scientific, oh,
whatever, it's a blue quote.
But to get to where you want togo, I'm gonna leave something
behind.
Remember, he was in thatwormhole, whatever it was doing,
he just jetted himself.
And she's like.
No, anne Hathaway.

(39:22):
Yeah, I think about the wholetime, though it's so true, to
get to where you want to go, toevolve and be better, I think
about it now.
Right, I'm working on mymaster's degree.
To complete my master's degreeand get to that point, I need to
leave certain things back.
Right, that means, am I goingto go hang out at the beach all

(39:43):
day and surf and nap?
No, that means I go to thebeach.
It's just short of a bit oftime.
I need to get home and I needto work on projects and essays,
right.
Right, you're going to have toleave certain things behind to
get to where you want to go, areyou?
Sometimes you're going to haveto work at a job you don't want
to be at.
In order to get to the job thatyou do want to be at, you have
to sacrifice.
I did it.
I know you've done it.
Yeah, I mean to get to whereI'm at my career.

(40:05):
I started I worked way like twohours away as a seasonal
firefighter, middle of nowhere,you know.
Did I like the job?
Yeah, it was fun, it was cool.
I was 18 years old and I wasgoing on.
Was it some of the hardest workI've ever done?
Yeah, dog, it was crazy.
Yeah, it was hard and we're notpaid that well, but it was
experience.
I knew it was going to be aresume builder and by getting

(40:27):
that fire experience and workingas a seasonal boom I go in
these interviews and when I gothired it's like, oh, you already
got fire experience.
He's worked as a seasonal.
That's hard work.
Like, yeah, let's take thisperson on.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, Intentional intentional grind.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah, no, it's very, very intentional and it's not
easy, man.
There's even now.
There's things that, excuse me,I have to do to get to where I
want to go in my career or withthis podcast and personal
relationships with people.
It takes time.
It takes evolving and changingto be a better person studying,
going to school, having mentors,talking to people who are in

(40:58):
the position that you weretrying to achieve or promote to
and that takes putting yourselfout there.
Yeah, you know making you knoware you going to fail them from
when they're testing you orasking you questions or giving
you mock interviews?
Yeah, it's going to feeluncomfortable, it's tough, it's
embarrassing, but that's whatmakes you better.
Yeah, you know it's hard,because I've had to do it.
I still do it now.
It's uncomfortable.
I can tell you right now Idon't like school.

(41:20):
I really don't.
But I know now that it isbetter for the future of my life
and my family.
Say an example the opportunitiesit's going to make for work.
You know, being educated,getting smarter and I was not a
good student in high school.
It's terrible, terrible student, yeah, and every never you want

(41:40):
to go to college.
It's like this is not me, right?
I was thinking I'll just gethired as a firefighter, call it
good.
And I did.
And then I realized, oh shoot,they're right, I need to get an
education.
All right, now I got to go backto school and I would tell you,
going back to school as anadult, working full time, and
you have a home and all thisother stuff, it is for me, it

(42:02):
was a little more difficult.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
You know it's interesting that, like you say
that, like I mean again like, asfar as like it's more difficult
because of the moreresponsibilities that you have.
But would you say that in a way, it's made you a better student
, though, coming back whenyou're, when you're like an
adult, compared to like when youwere a kid?

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Oh, absolutely, I take it way more serious now.
Yeah, I would feel I'm a lotmore responsible Dude.
Yes, better time managementyeah, I think.
Just an overall betterunderstanding of life yes, and
people, and for some reason,however, that equates to
whatever it is, I think you'revery much right.
I'm a better student because Ihave life experience.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Yes, I say that, I ask that because you know.
So you know, my fiance is goingback to school too.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Hey you.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
And she's crushing it .
I love it.
She's fucking crushing it.
Cassie, baby, I'm so proud ofyou, I'm so proud of you.
But anyways, we talk about thisquite a bit because I think she
like kind of voices the sameopinion that you face, right
when it's like, you know,growing up, going to school like
wasn't a good student.

(43:12):
The thing is like, I got mydegree.
But here's the kicker I wasnever a great student, like I
did.
You know the bare minimum, justget by, cease, get degrees
whatsoever Granted like again,the experience of college and
the experience of like having ahigher education.
I think it was beneficialbecause there were certain
things that it did help me with.

(43:34):
I do think that there werecertain things that kind of held
me back a little bit too, andeverything with, like the way of
thinking in college as, likeagain, even though I was in my
early twenties, like my earlytwenties, I was still a child,
oh, absolutely.
And you know, and so like likethat life experience and not
having that.
And then that's like, you know,taking the face value of like,

(43:58):
oh, a lot of stuff that wastheory, but it's like, oh, these
are great, these are ideal intheory, but the practicality and
like the reality of life isvery different.
And so we go, like leavingcollege.
I think it was definitely amore of a hard transition
because, you know, when youleave college as a young person,
you know you have all theseideas in your head from college.

(44:20):
You're like, oh, this is theway that the world should be.
And then the world's like, yeah, but that's not how it is, like
in everything.
And so you're like you have tolike understand of, like, okay,
what's great, but not ideal,like not ideal for a certain
situation, and like you have tolearn actually how life actually
works and not this bubble thatis college and that is

(44:42):
university.
And I think that going back asan adult and everything, I think
you have a major, you have amajor advantage over, like you
know these, like 18, 19, 20,something year old kids, right,
Because you actually have abetter understanding of how the
world actually works.
You could kind of tell when theprofessor is being is
bullshitting, you know, andthere's like up on their high

(45:04):
horse where, like, as you know,a young kid you're like, oh well
, they must know because they'rea professor, and like they know
more than me, obviously, andmost of the time it's like what
you come to find out, it's like,yeah, a lot of stuff they spew.
It's kind of bullshit.
Everything like there's there'sa nugget here and there that you
learn that you could take withyou.
That's like solid, but again,like it's as far as like with

(45:26):
the conversation and likelearning different viewpoints, I
think it's great, but yeah, Ithink it's coming back as an
adult, you have a very betteridea of like how things work and
like you have a lot morediligence, you take it more
seriously and you get bettergrades because of it.
I've like I don't.
I have not met someone who'sgone back to school and done
worse than when they went toschool the first time.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Usually the second time around.
They're a lot more serious,they're a lot more diligent,
they have a lot more shit goingon too.
So there I got my.
I can't fuck this up becauseI'm like I'm taking time out of
my day that I could be doing X,y and Z to do this, so I might
as well put effort into it.
And also, I think again, for usmen too, it's like we develop a
little bit later than women do,and so by the time that, like,

(46:11):
we go back to school or we do acourse or something like that,
when we're older, we have a lotmore attention to that and like
attention to detail, becausewe're like, oh, we've kind of
matured a little bit more aswell.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
So yeah, you know, it also helps with me doing loan
school because I'm paying for itdog cash.
Yeah, I better pass.
Yeah, you know I'm not going todo this again, because this is
really expensive, yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Oh, dude, I'm still paying off my loans too.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Like, yeah, it's a wild thing to always think about
that.
You know, education, education.
But they're leaving so manyyoung 20 year olds with hundreds
of thousands of dollars at debtand guess what?

Speaker 2 (46:51):
And here's a, here's the other kicker too.
It's just like, and like mostjobs that you want to get and
everything that pay good.
They're like, oh, but we wantexperience.
But like, how the hell am Isupposed to get experience if
I'm going to school andeverything?
And it's like you know it's inthis rat race and like, also,
like you know, inflation goes up, but then, like, the price of
living hasn't gone up.
So, or it's like when they dodo a race, it's like you're

(47:13):
getting a 5% increase.
It's like, yeah, but inflationis 7%, so really I'm getting a
2% decrease.
And so, like you know, it's, itis rough for, like, people who
are going to college now.
And also, I think that's likeincentivizing, like colleges as
a business more than like actualeducation.
I think that's screwed it screwsover the student, and so I'm

(47:36):
like, yeah, I have my criticismof like a formal education.
I think that it's not great,but like, yeah, paying for it is
a big motivator.
But those kids who like it'sfunny because I'm like I was one
of those kids that had to takeout loans and like I'm still
paying for him right now, butlike yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
So there's somebody I love deeply who's got student
loans.
And like, oh great, here we go.
Yeah, I saw a really good memeand it was making fun of kind of
all we're talking about rightnow and it's.
It was like here's the jobdescription.
Like you know something,manager, you need a bachelor's

(48:15):
degree, master's degree and fiveyears experience.
Starting pay 1550 an hour.
Yeah, exactly, I was like dudethat sums it up right there,
yeah that's like perfect.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
I think that also.
I think it's it's funny because, like with them, like with
businesses that like try to hire, like these, they basically
want to have like the startingposition.
It's not necessarily really astarting position.
They want you to work for freeso that they don't have to pay
you, and it's like so that youget that experience that way, so

(48:46):
that like you're like, oh, it'san unpaid internship.
Yeah or it's like oh, or like oh, it's like this, like part-time
gig so that they could pay youpennies on the dollar, Right,
Even though it's like the workthat you should be being paid
for is actually like supposed tobe like a salary pay.
But you're like, yeah, like youknow, finding the loopholes of
like paying less so that theycan make more of a profit too.

(49:07):
Yeah, so it's like everyone'smaking a profit, except for the.
You know the, unfortunately,like the student or the worker
basically which is why, being anentrepreneur, make your own
money, like like you know, it'slike like, of course, like, yeah
, if you want to, if you likeworking for somebody, sure, but
it's like it gets to a pointwhere it's like, honestly, and

(49:28):
especially in this world that welive in today, it's like you
got to find a way to likeaccumulate skills and create
career capital so that you'reable to like make your own
destiny.
So do like, do what you canlike, learn, study, like, pick
up and make a skill, dosomething that's going to be of

(49:49):
value, that people want to payyou for.
That value, of that like skillthat you have accumulated over
the years.
Yeah, so I mean granted, for me, that's personal training,
that's online coaching.
Like I love what I do, but thatthing is is like I've gotten
good at what I do, yeah, butthat's taken a lot of time and
effort, and like a lot ofstudying, and like the thing is

(50:10):
like I wasn't a good student.
But, dude, I love diving deeper.
And like like continuing myeducation with this because it's
practical, it's something thatI'm like I can learn it and then
I could apply it the next daywith a client, and that's
literally what I've been doingthe last 10 years of my life.
I love it.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
I love it.
What's one thing as we closethis out?
Yeah, this year one thing.
What's what do you think beforethis year?
One of the Christmas season,the year is ending.
Lots happen this year foreverybody, but what's one thing
you're thankful for?

Speaker 2 (50:43):
God.
There's honestly like I havelike five different things, but,
dude, I'm just, I am justthankful for the life I have
with my family and I'd say, like, with that, I'm thankful that
my fiance said yes earlier thisyear.

(51:07):
It was obvious.
But, like you know, like, yeah,you know, like I'm happy and
I'm thankful that that went theway it went.
But I'm just, I'm thankful forthis time.
I'm thankful for the time in mylife with, like with my fiance
and our son and I, just thisspecific time in his life that I

(51:30):
get to watch and I get to seeand all that.
And, like you know, I'm just,I'm thankful that I'm here for
that and that you know it's yeah, I'm, that's what I'm thankful
for.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
I hear you, I think for me, family, yeah, I really
come to understand in my 37short years on this earth, now
more than ever the importance ofmy family and the people that
love and keeping them close,working out our problems and
getting you know they were sorry, forgive, move on.

(52:03):
You know it's so important tobe tight with your family and
you know it's it's.
It's been so nice even with mysister, how almost like almost
weekly, we're getting togetherand having brunch or breakfast
or just chatting on the phone,text each other, and how much my
family has really helped methrough a lot, not this year,
but just over my lifetime.
Yeah, you know even times whereI didn't talk to them for a

(52:25):
year, you know.
And then finally fixing thingsand gosh, it's so important to
hold those that you love in yourlife so close because it's here
and gone so fast.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
And I've seen that with him.
You know my career field.
We see people passing awayevery day and that's the one
thing you see.
A lot of regret is more timewith family.
I've never seen people wishthey had more money, more
possessions, a better job or abigger home.
It was time and family andthat's always struck me.
I'm like, ooh, that's heavy man, cause at the end of the day,

(52:57):
you can't take in this with you.
Yeah, when it's over, it's overyour, your cards punched man,
you meet the good Lord.
I mean that's, it is what it isin your times done and
everything you've done here onthis earth, your money, your
possessions and how cool you areon Instagram won't matter.
Yeah, this is, it's gone.
You know, being moreintentional with my time this
year with my family has been oneof the best decisions I've ever
made in my entire life.
I don't have kids, none of thatstuff, but I'm saying I'm

(53:19):
immediate family and you knowpeople that I'm with and I love,
and that's also our podcastcrew and how tight we've gotten
and just our Christmas dinnertogether was so much fun and so
special to have everyonetogether.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Yeah, that was a great time yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
It was.
It was so good and it was sojust lighthearted and nice to
see everyone laughing and happyand just excelling.
Everyone's like engaged inmarriage and Jordan's having a
kid and life's moving on.
It's, it's.
It was one of the best nights Ithink I've had in a long time
and so for me it's been familythis year and so I hope for you

(53:54):
know, people listening and it'sChristmas season and, yes, it's
good to work and gifts get.
You know, work hard and getgifts for people, but the best
thing you could ever do to showyour love for somebody which I
have learned the hard way too isyour time.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Spend time with them, be intentional with your time,
listen, be with them.
You'll never, ever regret it.
I'll never regret this.
The amount of time that I'vebeen spending home, you know,
picking up less projects andskydiving less or surfing less
or whatever it may be that I'mdoing, because I'm a very active
person, yeah, and actuallyputting that more to the side
and putting family first hasbeen so amazing.

(54:30):
So I just want to ask you thatit's a.
You know it's too bad, wecouldn't have the whole crew
here, but hey, you know what Ialways tell everybody family
first.
Yes, we do that here on thispodcast.
And so to Jordan,congratulations on your kiddo
coming.
Sam, happy birthday.
We love you so much.
Thank you for everything youhave continued to do over the
years here on this podcast.

(54:50):
Yes, sir, you and Cassie.
Thank you so much to you guysfor believing in this and being
a part of it and just the littlefamily we've kind of grown
through this whole podcast thingand it's been really cool to
see.
And also to our listeners thankyou so much for tuning in to
listening and sharing things onsocial media downloading.
It's been phenomenal to be ableto do this and have people on

(55:15):
and get the feedback and hearpeople being inspired.
This whole point of thispodcast is talk about life and
you can hear other people'sstories the good, the bad, the
conspiracy theories because youknow we love them.
Thank you, but I can't thankyou enough.
A lot of hard work goes intowhat we do here.
But from me and our podcastcrew, thank you so much.
Merry Christmas, have a greatnew year.

(55:37):
Thank you so much.
We will see you in February.
Yeah, february, march is a lotof change coming, but anyways,
into Evan.
Yes, sir, my man, hey, love you.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Love you too.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Thank you for everything.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Thank you.
Hey, dude, thank you.
Thank you guys Honestly likethank again.
Second, what Tim said Jordanand Sam Jordan super excited for
you and your family and Sam.
Happy birthday man.
I love you guys so much.
I love like honestly viewers.
Thank you for tuning in and,dude Tim, thank you for this
opportunity.

(56:10):
Thank you for this friendshipman.
Honestly like from day one.
Man like you've always been agreat dude.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
And I have always appreciated you.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
I appreciate again this family that we've grown
together with this let's Gopodcast.
So with that man I think weshould send it off.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
You want to take it out, dude?

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Sure man, hey, so that's it.
Everybody Like and subscribeand dude, here is the 2023.
Let's welcome in 2024 with a.
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