The Balance of Family, Ambition, and Societal Challenges

We are back! It’s our first episode of Season 2. We talk about the complexities of balancing parenting, personal growth, and the richness of the 'now.' We unwrap the layers of these experiences in our latest season, speaking candidly about fatherhood's lessons, commemorating life's milestones like engagements within our crew, and the sweet spot of aligning our podcast format with the rhythm of our evolving lives.

Season Two unfurls a tapestry of heartfelt dialogues, from the power of presence with family to the taxing demands of careers that can too often overshadow our personal identities. We share stories and the intense pressures faced by first responders and the quest for a balance between professional ambition and spiritual nourishment. Through our reflections, we aim to foster a deeper understanding of the intricacies of life's journey, inviting our community to ponder alongside us the delicate balance required to cherish the present while also preparing for the future.

In this series of conversations, we also navigate the sociopolitical landscape and scrutinize California's current climate. Our commitment shines through as we discuss our First Responders Night of Hope event,  and the transformative power of community storytelling. Join us as we step into these honest spaces, seeking to inspire, connect, and offer a beacon of hope to our listeners through the shared language of our lived experiences.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welcome back to season two of let's Go podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
You have myself, tim Fisher and I'm Jordan Jimiola,
season two Welcome back.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
We're back, dude.
We ended season one in December, which was great.
We took a month off, like wetraditionally do.
We take January off, and nowwe've changed to more of a
seasonal format.
So this is the start of seasontwo.
We're going to do about eightto 10 episodes, take maybe a
month or two off in the back anddo another season.
So this way it's just kind ofmore easy.

(00:40):
I don't want to say easier onus, but we're all starting to
grow our families and we need tostart making sure that's a
priority.
So, speaking of which,congratulations on the addition.
We don't need to say any names,it's up to you.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
It's okay.
Yeah, thank you so much.
Thanks for the great talk.
Lots happened.
We had our third baby andthere's been all the stuff that
goes with that.
It's been super awesome.
I was actually chatting withTim a little bit before.
Our life is.
It's just busier.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
I'm sure man.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
And it's like every step, every kid.
It's been like these bigchanges, you know, and I
remember someone telling me likeonce you have two, the next
it's all easy.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Is that true?
They're saying, three is easy.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, and after two is supposedly easier, and I
think they're full of shit and Iwant to say that on camera and
I say that the nicest waypossible.
Like I said not that it's a badthing, it's just busier.
So is it when I think of thatstatement as it being like oh,
it's easier.
I'd be like I wouldn't sayeasier, it's just more of stuff.

(01:48):
But at the end of the day, it'ssuper red and we're so blessed
and I'm so happy.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'll tell you this man it's from my perspective of
being you know you're gosh.
I'm gonna say, yeah, you'redefinitely.
You know my sister's my bestfriend and so somebody else over
here.
What's up, but you're one of mybest friends.
It's really great to, like wetalked about earlier.
It's so cool to see you becomea father the first time, the

(02:17):
second and now third, andgetting married to Christine.
I still remember when we wentsurfing and you said, hey, I'm
going to go on this date withthis girl tonight in San Diego
Like I don't know if I should ornot.
I said I'm like, dude, go havefun.
Now you're married, yeah it'sso cool.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
It is, it's rad, it's crazy to reflect on it and like
, and I feel like we've we'vebeen pretty busy since you know
we've gotten together, so youknow, but I love it and I think
that you know if Christine hearsthis, she's going to be like
he's full of shit, and thereason why I'm saying that is oh

(02:56):
yeah, probably this one forsure.
No, but the reason what I'msaying is that it's like every
day is a learning moment and youknow the things that I thought
that I had ironed out.
You know, you're kind of like,sometimes you get challenged
with that and like, for me, Iwas telling you earlier, dude,
it's patience, you know, and notsaying that as like, oh, I wish

(03:17):
I had more.
No, I do, I wish I had morepatience with a lot of things,
and I think that especially likewith the managing of the kids
and all that kind of stuff whereI end up being like oh, but I'm
thinking like, dude, they'relittle, this is a moment.
you know it's like and you saidthis earlier too it's like
you're living in this smallmoment in time and, yeah, it's,

(03:38):
you know, busy and sometimesfrantic and whatnot, but it's
like the things that you'llremember forever.
You know it's like how manytimes we have conversations on
here, we're reflecting theselike funny instances of
childhood, you know, and it'slike I do have to remind myself
of that because it's like thoseare the things that I would talk
about, like these momentousoccasions and things that happen
where they're funny or crazywhatever, when I was a kid.

(03:59):
It's like now I'm living in theparent perspective of that
right now and it's pretty radand you know, and it's like,
yeah, obviously I will getbetter at having more patience,
you know, but you get tested allthe time, you know.
So, yeah, man.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
It's rad, it's, it's encouraging.
You know, I want to start afamily one of these days.
I can't wait to be a fatherI've always wanted to be one.
But to see how we you know,we've known each other for so
long.
We started our careers together, surfing as young guys, having
good times, going on snowboardtrips, and now it's like we're

(04:33):
in it.
We're reaching this differentseason in life where we're all
starting families.
And you know, congratulationsto Sam and his lady.
Sam, our camera operator.
He got engaged.
Woo, Like hello, what's up.
We are so happy and excited forhim.
And then also, excuse me, Evan,Evan Nelson, he got, he got

(04:53):
engaged as well.
He's our contributor on themonthly.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
He's the jacked white dude that's up on here with the
Thor haircut.
Yeah, monthly reviews.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I don't know why I'm blanking out.
Yeah, monthly reviews.
He's super jacked.
He was my trainer a long timeago.
Yeah, yeah, and I guess I guessevolving but getting better and
moving through life and seeingeveryone happy yeah, that's the
biggest thing that I love to seeis when my friends and my
family succeed and they're happy.
I'm happy.
You know, it's not about themonetary things, it's just

(05:24):
making sure your people aretaken care of.
Yeah, you know, that's me and,by the way, so everybody sees
this.
Are you going to address it?
Yeah, I'm going to address thefinger in the room.
Right now I have a brace on andyes, it's on my middle finger.
This happened surfing on a veryfun day.
It's probably eight feet.
I don't surf with a leash and Iride a longboard and I was

(05:47):
doing my bottom turn on a niceeight foot wave and I was going
to wipe out.
So, as I traditionally do, I'mgoing to wipe out.
I sacrifice my body for theboard.
Well, as I was going down tojump on the board, like all the
weight, somehow my middle excuseme, middle finger got caught
first and all the weight ofgoing down went into that and it

(06:07):
felt slow motion and it just Icould feel the pain growing.
And then my face hit the board.
Oh dude, it was such a mess.
My feet it was almost like Iscorpion, yeah.
And then of course I got turnedup, so that's why I have this
brace.
It's kind of we're trying to dothis show and I'm trying to
drink here.
It's not working, it is what itis.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Hey, you just got to roll with it.
It's all good, and to yourcredit, though, I will say
getting injured surfing it's oneof the shittiest spots to get
hurt.
Like as far as sports go right.
You have to go down on a field.
You've hurt something.
It's like you're at least likeon your feet, like well, I'd

(06:48):
imagine like injuring yourselflike skydiving is probably
pretty gnarly, but like being inthe water and you have an
injury take place, you reallyhave that like secondary, like
oh shit, can I swim Right?
You know what I mean.
Like that vibe going on, youknow.
So it's kind of it's funny.
Because it's not funny, itsucks.
I'm sorry about your finger.
I hope it heals up good.
It's like I tore something inmy shoulder surfing one time and

(07:11):
I like it wasn't a crazy bigday, but it was like maybe had
high or whatever, and somethinghappened where, like all I did
was dig my arm in the water andI felt something tear in my
shoulder Like as I took off.
You know, I was trying to likeslow up a little bit so you
could feel the tear happening atthe time, yeah.
It was like my arm was in thewater and just like Jordan you

(07:33):
know, no, no, no, no, no butwhat was funny is that somehow
the board still hit me in theface because it was, like you
know, felt.
The tear pitched, hit me in theface and as I'm coming down
it's like you get whacked in thechin.
And there was the one whereit's like you kind of bite your
tongue.
I don't think I've ever, Idon't think I've ever fallen
surfing and not hit my head onthe board.
Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
I'm laughing.
I'm not laughing at you, I'mlaughing.
It's okay, I'm good becausethat's happening to me, where
you're like kind of falling andyou think you're like in control
and it's just smack, but you'relike whoa and it's, it's very
startling, it's firm yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
It's not like a like, a like a ricochet slap ever.
It's more like the thud andyou're like I feel, like you
feel it in your head, then yourneck.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
And the first thing, you know, the first thing I
think of when that happens isdid somebody see that?
That's true.
Now I'm always like, oh, Idon't want to look stupid in the
water right now.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
That is the first I feel like most people surfing
like unless you like.
Well, maybe even the prosprobably think of it that way.
But like you're you kind oflike your first thought, like if
you like, especially if you ateit.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely.
Oh yeah.
Well over.
So over New Year's, after wedid our last episode for season
one, which was, I think,officially 171 episodes, ring
the bell.
Let's go, people.
So that's amazing.
That is amazing.
Thank you.
Thank you to the team, sam, toeverybody who's contributing,

(08:57):
everyone listening.
We were downloaded officiallyin 56 countries and we were the
top 25% of all podcasts.
That is crazy.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
What do?
You think the most obscurecountry is we have to look.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I have to look on the data charts that are oh okay,
and I don't know all of them.
No there's some.
I look because I hit countries,yeah, and it'll tell.
My first thought is you knowhow in the world did you find
out about us?

Speaker 1 (09:28):
I think this is like when you see the downloads from
like India, you're like someoneI'm assuming like this isn't,
this isn't, uh, we don't likeput anything out there that I
don't think it could betranslated, right, so it's like
you have to know English tolisten to it, right, right.
So it's like to me, I'm likeGod, dude, someone's so like

(09:49):
what were you searching?
How far did you go down?
Or what were you looking for?
Right, you know what I mean?
I mean because there's multiple, not just like a one off.
You know download from theseareas and you're thinking you're
like dude, we made it to India.
That's sick.
Oh hey, maybe one day we'll doa podcast out there.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
What about that?
They have to know.
They have to know English ormaybe they're talking shit.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
No, here's what I thought.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
It made me laugh a lot was maybe they're learning
English or they know English andthey think that we are.
We know what's up Like.
These are real Americans.
You got to listen to them andyou know my first thought was
like you got the wrong peopleman, I don't know, maybe I don't
know.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
I feel like there's a lot of common sense to me and
thrown around on this show.
But, that is funny.
Like to take this like becauseI know I see what you're saying
you know what I mean.
It's like it's there, like, oh,maybe like someone way out
there is listening, thinkinglike this is the most current
updates and like exactly what'sgoing on.
I never thought of it that way.
That's why I feel like there'sa little more pressure, I guess

(10:53):
A little bit.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
So when I saw it we were downloading 56 countries, I
was kind of shocked a littlebit and it was kind of
encouraging too.
I was like, oh, wow, like.
So what we're doing is working,people are listening.
This is, I mean.
You can see the downloads.
They've always gone up.
But to see the differentcountries and to see like we're
you know, hey, you're top 25% ofall podcasts, was it was cool.

(11:16):
That encouraged me.
At the end of the year I waslike, okay, I'm, I'm, I'm liking
what we're doing.
And then also to get themessages from people asking, hey
, when are you coming back?
Miss you guys.
Stuff on, you know social media.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, it's pretty cool yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Kind of realize, oh, people are listening and they
like, like what's happening.
So I'll have to say good job,bro.
Hey, you too, man you know whatI'm saying, man.
Remember when we started on aplastic table.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
I do remember.
I remember the first episodevery well actually.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, we were a little we were a little messed
up, a little loose it was it wasfun though.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
I mean, and that was a lot of fun.
But that was the point of it.
It was just to see it was atrial.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well it goes back to what you said with your children
oh, careful, sorry, I gotexcited.
Yeah, no, it goes back to likewhat you said with your kids.
It's almost like you don'trealize you're living in the
good old days and in greatmoments, until your years pass
and you realize, oh, wow, thatwas a moment, those were the
good old days.
That was cool, cause you lookback and, honestly, those times

(12:13):
when we first started out to meare precious Because you know it
was.
We didn't know what we weredoing, we had no clue what's
going on, but even with yourkids now, yeah, you know, even
thinking back on it and how itcould be stressful, frustrating.
You know all theseresponsibilities but like we
talked about earlier, before westarted the podcast, I remember
I told you like hey, dude, thisyou haven't talked about it, but

(12:33):
it's just like hey, this is alot.
And the cool thing is likethat's your family and these
moments are only happening oncethey're only kids, once she's
only the newborn, is only alittle baby.
Once you know.
And then once that's over, it'sover, dude.
Yeah, and that's something thathas hit a few people I know
that are like older.
Even my dad, he's like man.
You know, don't realize howfast this will go.

(12:54):
You guys are adults.
Yeah, dad, I'm about to befreaking 40 years old, two years
.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
It's crazy, it is nuts and, like you know, you
just think, yeah, god, I wastrying to.
There was a, it was in the show, the office, but I was saying a
saying along the lines of likeI wish you could know it's the
good old days while you're goingthrough them, versus like years
down the road.
And I think that just comesdown to like what I was saying

(13:21):
earlier.
It's just like like enjoyingthe moment that you're in, you
know, and I think that it isimportant and there's a lot of
them and that's what's coolabout it, you know, and, yeah,
you know, just excited to be inthe situation and moving Right.
Yeah, being in the moment andlooking forward to like the few,

(13:43):
because, like I you know, Idon't know I like foresight a
lot, I think yeah, you're aplanner.
A little bit, you know, maybenot as much on paper, but always
mentally yeah you and I bothdude.
Yeah, but you know, and it'scool man, it's like a fun
situation to be in and, and youknow, getting to experience it
because we are fortunate, youknow, and and it's super rad man

(14:04):
, I'm pretty stoked on it, yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
I've tried to.
I want to say Sam twos here.
I think over the past year I'vekind of been working on that
consciously, about being morepresent and spending more time
at home.
I'm like you, jordan, I, my dad, the way I was kind of grew up,
or the way I grew up and wastaught always be a planner,
always have a plan A, b and C.

(14:26):
You got to think the future.
You know your nest egg.
You got to save here and youwant to buy property, because
you know property, where iswhere the money's at and it's
going to grow equity and youwant to do this and you make
sure you get a good car here andwhere I want to go with my
career and I found myself.
So I started noticing I was sowrapped up in thinking about the
future goals and what I need todo.
I was missing out in thepresent and not realizing how I

(14:51):
am very blessed and I have a lotand it is because of hard work
and it's not to boast, but youknow it's not easy to,
especially in SouthernCalifornia, to do well and have
a home and all these things andit's like I got so caught up in
success and looking to thefuture.
You don't realize like you'remissing out in the present.
No, be home, take you know what, burn that PTO, use that sick

(15:15):
leave, because guess what, yourjob when you're dead and gone,
they're not going to care aboutyou.
You were just an employee andthat's not to sound mean, but I
saw something about that.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
I'll make it sound mean, because that's the truth.
Yeah, so we're going to getpast that because it do it a
hundred percent.
You're right, you have to.
It's basically what I've, and Idon't have this shit ironed out
at all.
Excuse me, I'm a little loosewith the cursing.
I feel like we just got on agood run without it anyway, but
I found that, like it'sliterally everything is a

(15:47):
balancing act.
Everything and all aspects oflife, and exactly what you said,
because, like you know, Idefinitely have been the same
way, planning for the future inmost times, like financially,
you know, and sure investments,and it's like I have been
fortunate with a handful ofthings over the years, which is
great, but it's, like you know,having that main same mindset

(16:10):
like distracts from the familyenvironment too, and that's the.
That's like what I have, like Idon't like that part.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
And so that's, I think, where the struggle.
When I say that there is astruggle, it's it is being more
present in the time periods, andnot just like for myself and my
relationship with my entirefamily, but just like it's
important.
Yeah, you know, and, but alsoyou can't lose sight of those
other parts of you as well.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
It's like you said the balancing act.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
It's a balance, you know, and there is a certain
amount and like, listen, I missall the time.
You know what I mean, but it'slike I also feel like I am.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I try to be cognizant of it as best I can.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Of course, no one's perfect yeah but I do think like
, and it's and that's like thefun part, you know, like in,
just because you don't know, andlike in life, as crazy as it is
, you know, somehow seems to youknow, find a way to balance it
too in your life.
You know, and I think that it'sa, you know I've said it like

(17:08):
10 times now already, but I'msuper blessed about everything
that I'm in currently, right now, and you know it's like I
wouldn't change nothing.
You know, other than like maybeif we made more money at work,
more time off, because, tim,you're freaking right, dude it
is important, yeah, that beingwith your family.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I was talking to someone the other day.
It's we'll always haveopportunity to make more money
to do well in your career and inyour job.
But the one thing that we havethat you'll never get back is
your time.
Our time is priceless.
We're exchanging that time formoney to be able to live a good
life and provide for ourfamilies.
So it's like everyone right,we're always trying to figure

(17:50):
out what's the how can we cutout giving up of my time to make
money?
And I can do something and it'sfine, you know, like I can be
home more Sure.
But that's the one thing that Irealized and I've had a
conversation with a lot of olderfirefighters, firefighters who
have regret that.
They said, like you know, webought into this whole.
Give back to the firedepartment, make sure you pick

(18:12):
up your phone for overtime, youknow, give back to the fire
department.
And they didn't realize thatthey were missing out on so much
at home that their kids weregraduating high school and they
had this realization like, oh mygosh, I was never around.
I don't remember theirchildhood.
It was always working and oneof the guys, his son, even
approached him about it.
He graduated high school and hesaid that, you know, he retired

(18:32):
, finally as a firefighter froma department down here.
And his son said yeah, dad,you're, you know, ever since you
retired, you know, you justseem different.
And he said what do you mean?
He's like oh, I remember as akid growing up, as you were
always gone and when you comehome you'd be yelling at us I'm
like dang dude.
And when he told me that I cansee him get a little emotional,

(18:54):
I saw the tears in his eyes andhe, you know, he said that is,
my biggest regret was being atwork more than I was at home,
you know.
And that hit me like a ton ofbricks, because I had talked to
him about how I'm changingcertain things in my life and I
was telling him that I was like,yeah, I'm, I'm just doing this
and I'm taking this away, and Iwould I cause I just want to be
home, I want to do it right thistime.

(19:14):
I want to enjoy my time.
And he's like fish, you're onthe right path and you're doing
the right thing.
You will not regret it.
And that's when we got into thatstory and he's like, don't
worry about all the other stuffand participating and other
stuff at work and picking upover time is like the money will
be there, but your family?
He's like I can't get that timeback with my son ever again and
when he told me that he said itwould just broke his heart.

(19:37):
You know, I don't and I seethat and that's not talking bad
on people who you know they wantto invest their whole life in
their career.
That's cool, but the sad partis I've seen a lot of them end
up with pretty terrible lives.
And as far as divorces andlosing a lot of money in that
type of thing and your kid's notliking you cause you're not
around and then you're justmiserable and I don't want that

(20:01):
I might have.
My heart and my thinking haschanged so much when it comes to
what's important in life and Iused to be sold out on the
career firefighter.
That was me Like oh you know.
First you know five, 10 years,but then it's like you still got
people who are going to let youdown.
The money is there, but you'renot paying more in taxes and
this and that.
But I get more.
When I make a camp at my home.
I'm missing.

(20:21):
I don't things with my niecesand nephews, I don't have any
kids yet and you know I'm oncedivorced.
I don't want to do that anymore.
I just don't.
It's not me.
I want to make sure I'm puttingmy time into people and things
that matter.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, and I think staying, you know, like I said
earlier, is trying to becognizant of it.
You know cause everyone'ssituation is different, right?
You know like and I don't knowwho you're referencing in that,
and it's like like I couldtotally sympathize with him, and
that's someone who's like rantheir life through their job,

(20:56):
right.
So it's like I still feel likekind of in the middle or maybe
the second half of the middle,right, and you know, you just
have to look at it.
You know where it's like if yougot to find out what's
important.
Now again, sorry, I'mbacktracking, it's a situational
, right.
So it's like the cost ofeverything is very high.
You know, base base salary rateisn't that high, or at least

(21:22):
like back, like, let's say, inthe eighties or not, I'm sorry
like the nineties.
Being a firefighter, yeah, youcan work no overtime, maybe,
have a little second job, butyou can buy a house wherever
you're working and be able tosupply a lot.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Cost of living was very low.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Cost of living is a little bit different now and
again.
If the situation for the homelife dictates having to work
overtime, I can empathize withthat, but I also, if you don't
have to.
It is important to be at homeand I feel like it's kind of
like you have the opportunity to.
You got to just weigh the, youknow, weigh the scales and if
things need to be changed hey,are you doing a selfie?

(21:59):
Sorry, backtrack, no, but ifthings need to be changed, you
just have to be cognizant of it.
So if it's like, hey, I got towork X amount of overtime is to
make sure I cover my monthlybills, you know I get that.
But then it's also like, well,don't be the same guy that like
works nine over times in a month, you know because you're
because you kind of become likeno, I don't want to use that

(22:23):
term, you depend on that, youdepend on that too much, you
know.
Whereas then it's like well,what's the real difference if
you work two less over times amonth and you're home two more
days and at the end of the yearit's like all right, I maybe
didn't make 14 grand, but I havea better relationship with my
kids and my wife and stuff likethat.
So it's, it's important.

(22:43):
I'm not, I'm a dog and anybodylike you got to do.
You like.
I'm just saying from myperspective and I hope that I
can be what I'm saying and knowthat it is important to spend
the time at the house and, youknow, family and kind of
reevaluating.
But I do think something thatis important and not to take

(23:03):
away from what you're saying atall, because you do learn
through all your experiences tooright, and that mindset and
mentality of like gung-ho thisbecause you believe in it, it
led you to where you're at now,you know, and it led me to where
I'm at too, so as much as asmuch as.
I.
I get upset at things that likewow, man, I wish I would have

(23:24):
handled life a little bitdifferently at these times, or
maybe not been all about work somuch.
I do feel like everything hasset me on a course to this
moment and I think that that's.
That's super important.
And, you know, you can alwayschange what you haven't done yet
.
You know, and I think that'swhy it's like okay.
Well, yeah, dude, I'm a grinder.

(23:45):
You're a grinder, you gotthings and it's not none of us
boastful, you know, but I haveset myself up good, and you know
.
But now I get to share it withsomebody and create this for my
kids.
You know, and hopefully that'sthe same for you, you know, or
in however, you want to do thatmoving forward.
But taking the time andunderstanding the importance is
like, I think that's big and Ithink that that's what.

(24:08):
Like, that's what differentiatesthe people that like from this
point, moving forward in theircareer, especially in this
industry, you see guys that likewipe out.
You know what I mean.
They're just like okay, I'm avictim of the overtime and the
and I got to be gone and I gotto do this and I got to do that.
And the next thing, you know,you have your buddy's story when
your kids are gone.

(24:29):
You are never here, you know,or you go, oh shit.
Okay, maybe I'm not going tostop, but I need to be more
aware of things at the time ormaybe meld those things a little
bit better, moving forward.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Sorry, that was a long rant, no, no, no, you're
good, it was all spot on it's.
It's one of those things too.
You know, I don't think a lotof us realize that how much it
wears on us mentally.
You know, we see, I read Ifinally found this a new article
.
I'm trying to remember whowrote it, but it was saying how
in our careers we will see fourto 600 people die and in the

(25:09):
average civilian it's one to two.
I'd also believe that, yeah,that is a lot that takes a toll
on you.
That's not normal, that's notaverage.
You know, we're not meant tosee violent things all the time,
and we do.
And it wears on you and we copewith it.
We learn, you know, over thetime we learn we are.
Humor is dark.
I'm just going to say right nowwe have very, very dark humor.

(25:31):
We're grittier type people, I'm, but it's not normal, it wears
in you and that's why you'reseeing, unfortunately, these
suicide rates up, not just incivilians but he's also in first
responders and it's even higherin our police.
You know that, which is abomber, because I don't grow up.
People think we law enforcement, that whole deep on the police

(25:52):
like get out here, go leave thecountry, go do that somewhere
else.
I completely support, support,support, support.
I support it support yeah,support law enforcement.
So it's just a it's I don'tknow man it.
Sometimes we're a victim of ourown success at times.
What we think, you know how Igrew up and what my dad

(26:12):
instilled in me and what we,what I saw as a teenager being
an explorer, it's just like youknow everything's about your
career.
Now you want to do well in life.
You should.
You don't want to.
You don't want to just sitaround and try and get free
handouts.
That's not.
That's not gonna work for you.
You need to work for what youwant.
You need to get educated.
You need to get trained in atrade to do well for yourself

(26:32):
and provide.
But Sometimes I feel like people, even myself, will put that
above everything is success andwork and when that's all changed
.
From me, a lot was coming backto my faith, I would say
probably a year and a half ago,and nurturing that.
Now, look, I'm gonna tear.
Right now I say come back to myfaith and I absolutely 100%

(26:54):
Believe in God.
I believe what Jesus has donefor me and that he died for my
sins and he saved me, and Ibelieve it.
I'm yes.
Now am I gonna sit here and bethe poster child for
Christianity.
I am not the poster child forChristianity.
Okay, I have my own issues, myown problems and things I'm
trying to work through, but inmy heart I know who he is to me
you know, so Because, you know,coming back to my faith has

(27:18):
changed my outlook on work, notjust how I treat people and how
I treat the ones I love and howI'm gonna live my life and try
and be a better person.
That aligns with how you knowthe Lord was when he was on this
earth and the Gospels, but evenwork, what am I doing with my
time?
You know our life is it says inthe Bible is but a vapor.
It's like it's here and gone,just like that.

(27:39):
And I've ever seen a video andthis is not some I don't want to
knock this guy, I'm not gonnasay his name With some company I
believe on social media they do.
They work on New York stylehelmets, like fixing them or
selling them or something.
You know, I'm saying yeah, yeah,a lot of East Coast departments
have them.
But it's like it showed thecool helmet and it came down.
It was like behind it, like I'mfrom American flag, and I said

(27:59):
what will be your legacy?
And I remember thinking not thefire department, you know.
And then I don't want to soundlike I'm not appreciative of
what I have in my career.
I enjoy my career.
I think it's a calling.
I think people like you and I,we do enjoy helping people.
That's what we even if you'recalling us at four in the
morning and you have to pain, itis what it is.

(28:19):
We're gonna respond, we'regonna help you to make sure your
toes Okay, but that's us,that's high five.
You're gonna get a high five andcall us back tomorrow but we,
you know, we we enjoy this jobwith, like, helping people, but
I don't want my legacy To be ohyeah, he did, he was great in
his career.
I just not me.

(28:40):
I'm like dude, that's not whatI want.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah, but I think that's the important part of
that.
You know that's not what youwant.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like in a, not not in a, not totake away anything, what you're
saying because I did, I'm like,I'm who are you, as you're
talking?
Like because I?
I Like there are people thatthat's meant for you know, like
the people that are so inwhatever career it is, you know

(29:02):
we happen to have the probablythe most experience and the
first responder stuff, right,but and there are people like
that that, like I feel like theytruly want to leave a legacy
behind this profession.
Yeah and that's totally rad,like good for you, you know.
But like that's not what'simportant to me and I would say
probably to you.
Like, as you've gotten olderand you know life experience and

(29:26):
whatnot, you kind of youreprioritize and you know.
So when you see that stuff nowit's like I kind of like I'm
like Dope dude, east Coastfirefighters you guys are badass
, like there's no doubt about it.
Like I'm not comparing myselfto you at all, but I don't want
to leave a legacy.
That's just for my job.

(29:46):
Like my legacy I want is for myfamily.
I want my kids.
That's how I mean, like my wife, like that, all that you know.
So, and which is cool, too right.
It's just not like I'm notgonna wear it on my fire helmet.
But you know what I would say?
These go through thetrendsetters and I think black
turnouts are dope and I wish wecould wear them.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
I know.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Sounds like 90.
No, dude, you were sayingsomething earlier about uh,
what'd you say about cost ofliving, something they're not
gonna do?
Oh, but it was gonna leave meto the story about Gavin Newsom.
I just this, the one politicallittle go ahead dude.
Dig, I'll take yeah and when Isay dig, I hope it's
constructive criticism.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Okay, he's made California such a better place,
right Not?

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Oh, dude man, Did you see the last video that came
out with him?
It was a leaked like webinarDeal and he was sharing a story,
so it because it really soundedlike he hit.
He did not think this was gonnaget replayed.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yes, I know exactly what I'm okay.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
So the story is, and it's a brief one, but he
witnessed a robbery like out oftarget, like a shoplifting thing
, out of target, and he said, onthis webinar thing, he was
trying to explain the story alittle bit and then he goes yeah
, so I I walked up to likesomeone who worked there and I
don't know if it was target, bythe way, maybe I believe it was,

(31:12):
but I think it was but if it'snot whatever fill in store name
Went up to an employee and waslike hey, like you should stop
them because you know they'restealing.
And the employee said if itwasn't for our governor we would
stop them, except for the factthey can steal up to like 1200

(31:34):
bucks and we can't do shit.
So why are we gonna try to hurtourselves over this?
And then he proceeds to talklike I can't believe they didn't
know I was Gavin Newsom and Iwas like I Almost feel like this
video was like staged, likethat's how I feel about it,
because it's like you couldn'tlook any dumber.

(31:55):
Oh yeah, as a human like you'rethat pretentious, you're like I
can't believe they don't knowme.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Oh well, think about what she said.
And that was his response right, not like holy shit.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
You know what she might be right.
Yes, maybe we have employeesaround here that gotta go.
Do we go after this one?
Nah, fuck them.
You know what I mean.
Like that's a thing in a lot ofplaces.
So it's not like this isn't newinformation, but the first,
first response is like I can'tbelieve she didn't know me.
Yes, that's what I thought.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
The same thing yeah.
I read that and then I waswatching video or whatever and I
was like that's your firstresponse yeah, people are
stealing.
There's multiple, multiplecompanies that are out of San
Francisco.
San Francisco, there's.
There's no target In Oakland, Ithink in an out scone they just
left.
Yeah, there's not the originalin and out.
I believe it's the original?

Speaker 1 (32:45):
No, I don't think it's the original, but it was
one of the I think it's one ofthe only ones in the city of
Oakland.
Okay, and they left because ofcrime issues with, you know, the
business, the store shop, yeah,and they offered like they're
like hey, we're gonna move.
And they offered likeapparently they offered everyone
who works there they're liketheir job at the new location,
that's cool.

(33:05):
Yeah, they were like hey, it'sjust not safe.
Which, what a smart on thecompany.
No, I did right.
But I mean like hello, right,like you can't even go get a
burger in peace, dude.
Like I get dude, plate times ortough places are hard, there's
the streets and all that, I getit.
But like, if you're like, hey,we can't go there, not like, hey

(33:27):
, dude, don't go out after dark,right, like, just go during the
day.
It's like not even that, it'sjust like don't go, don't go
there, you know, and I'm surethey closed down because they
probably weren't making anyfucking money.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Well, no one's gonna go, yeah, yeah and.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
But I'm like thinking , good, god, dude, like that's a
thing you know not to be naiveto the world like I'm not saying
that cuz like I can't believeit's not a thing.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, but it goes back to Gavin Newsom.
Yeah, there's a whole thinglike bro, you just, you just
witnessed it.
You see an employee talkingtrash from you, but it's not
really trash, it's the truth.
And the first thing you'rethinking about is oh, she didn't
know me.
You're terrible.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
I know, but I think people won't even pick up on
that.
No, that's a sad part, cuz likeI secretly think some for some
reason Joe Biden's gonna stepdown on the running for
president because His handlersare probably like running out of
things to think about.
Like how do we make him notseem like we can at Bernice?
How do we do that?

(34:22):
You have the puppeteer behind?
He's just like doing this, hislike person miming.
This guy is hammer drunk allthe time Because there's no way
he had his own consciousness hewould be talking and doing
things.
There's no way he doesn't know.
So that's what I'm saying.
Like they got some crazysituation.
I know that sounds nuts and I'mtrying to be here.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Here's my biggest question is pretty dumb and it's
it's kind of scary and Notscary like I'm gonna like hide I
just mean, but the fact that hecan stand up there and
blatantly lie when he talks andsay, oh, we have the, we're
doing great, my policies havebeen successful.
Bro, you have the most peopleleaving a state right now in the
history of people leavingCalifornia.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
I thought you're talking about Biden.
I was like bro, he's good,don't worry, cuz all you gotta
do is he's got to show hisdoctor's note from 2019 that
says he was diagnosed withdementia.
So any shit that he said, he'lljust be like.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
I Know Tagos you know , I know, I know, I don't think
he's gonna run personally, Ireally don't.
I, if anything.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
I almost see him stepping down and Kamala what
being put in, but it would bethat.
Or See news him I get, I think,news I was gonna make a run out
it and he's like that's sleazytype that will probably do.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
He doesn't have a chance.
I don't think he has a chance.
Everyone, everyone sees thedisaster that he's created here.
I Mean.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
I would say, yeah, I totally agree, but I mean like.
Do you think, though?
I mean cuz?

Speaker 2 (35:48):
like he won by a lot his last election as governor
and that was like a, but hethink that was prior to that.
Do you think you really won bya lot?
Be honest for yourself.
No, I don't think that, butwithout getting, especially with
him being related to Pelosi.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Without me sounding like another crazy person on
here where they're gonna be likeah, it's another right wing
conspiracy theory guy, which Imean.
I'm a conspiracy theory guy,for sure, but I definitely think
like I don't understand how heLike has a more than 2% lead on
anything like he seems prettybad like he just seems bad, he's

(36:23):
probably a nice guy, but he's ashitty like it's terrible,
she's terrible.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Can you imagine if all the policies put in
California, if he were to dothat as the president for the
whole nation?

Speaker 1 (36:37):
I mean Sorry, I don't .
Yeah, I don't go to politicalbanter, but it is super
interesting to see what's gonnahappen over this year, because
it sounds like Trump's gonna bethe frontrunner for the
Republican Party, which is, Imean, like I.
Again, I could make theargument I think policy wise
will be great, but everyone'sgonna have to be a little like

(36:58):
oh no, what's it gonna write onX?

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, well, formally, no, well dude, can you imagine
the amount of people he's gonnago after if he wins the election
?
I would think a lot.
The whole regime.
I would think he's going to tryand put them away.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
I mean he has, because the amount of one like
like court cases or somethinglike that, like dude 90.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Well, why do you think the African-american vote
is for him now?

Speaker 1 (37:24):
cuz I probably like, because dude get it dude, he's
got street cred.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
He's like us.
He's being framed, he's beingjailed for no reason, like he
gets what we're going through.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
I mean, you know what right and like.
What an interesting way to likehave a plan backfire for Run
his shit through as muchlitigation as possible and then,
just along the way, it's like alittle bit more dirt.
It's dug up each time andthey're like Starting to look
bad.

(37:55):
But I don't know.
I just think.
I think the system is so riggedthat I think that, even though,
like, let's say, the electionswere this week because I have
the elections were this week Iwould think that, like anyone,
not Biden would have a sincereadvantage.
I think that as it gets closerto that, we're gonna see some
wacky stuff take place and Ithink, like, like, if you had

(38:19):
any thought that the electionprocess was a little bit
questionable the last go, Ithink this time it's gonna like
it'll be bad if the worse.
Yeah.
So you know, not to say thatmeans like if the person who I
want to win doesn't win, likeit's automatically something's.
You know there's a, there'ssome backstory to it, right?

(38:39):
I just think that, like in thiscase, there was a lot of
interesting arguments the lastgo and this time, if it was like
especially, let's say, alandslide, where they were like
dude, this guy got 15 millionmore votes than Obama did.
Like this old, fuckingestablished white guy Got more
votes than the second term,first black president of all

(39:00):
time.
There's no way.
There's no way, even if youweren't a fan of Obama.
Yeah there's no way.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Well, you know how crazy is?
I mean, do people voted it forhim so much that they they came
back from the grave?
Yeah you know, he's got thedeath vote, you know.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
That would be a sick t-shirt.
I Don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Dude, it was some.
It was some town or city on theeast coast.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Well, there's like there's like 40 people that have
died like 10 plus years agothat voted for him.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
You're like I found her comical, like people get
upset.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Oh you know, they're so dirty yeah whatever it is,
what it is, I think elections ingeneral are dirty.
Yeah, both ends of it.
Both ends are bad, but deadpeople with the fact that
they're like.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
They're like yeah, this person died in like 1929,
but he voted for Biden.
Like you can't make this up?

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Yeah, you cannot make this madness up.
It's crazy.
I mean it's enough.
Yeah, I mean that's so, that,okay, so like that argument and
itself or not argument, butstatement itself did.
The bizarre part about it Isthat like let's say, yeah, dude,
dead people are voting incertain counties.
Right, forever, yeah, right,yeah, but it's a small
percentage.
But once you get into, you getinto a little bit of like where

(40:15):
district linings and things are.
Yeah, in some counties, twovotes could change the entire
vote of the county.
That's why it's like, it's likethey like how's reading an
article about like a vote, likewhat is permissible, like like
what's wrong, like how much of apercentage of like we're going

(40:37):
to write this off is appropriate, and it's like 1%, which is
still a lot like a lot, a lot.
If you take the big scale of,if you said, 1% out of the 330
something million people thatlive here, that's a big number,
right, and can sway a lot ofdifferent stuff.
So it's kind of like we kind ofjust go about life going like

(40:57):
oh well, this is accepted.
Yeah, oh, fucking, jimmy'sgreat grandfather still voting.
That's crazy.
You're like no man, like wecan't like, you can't do that
shit.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
You know what I?

Speaker 1 (41:07):
mean Like saying that's okay is like trying to
make an argument against, likeyou shouldn't have to share your
ID when you vote, right?
You know what I mean it's like.
And then there's dude, there'sthousands of people that would
disagree with me on that verystatement, maybe hundreds of
thousands of people.
And where you're like, you meanI don't have to show my ID.
So I kind of prove who I am tosay what I mean.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Right, like that seems pretty well you need a
passport to leave this countryand get back in, but anybody
who's illegal can get one comingfor free.
It's no big deal.
Oh, where you went there.
We'll save that for anothertime.
We'll save it.
How about the?

Speaker 1 (41:42):
30?
.
What was it?
Well, how about the?
It was like is it $3,500?
Because they're starting,they're going to give people
with like like your credit card,your tax paying money.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
people listening that's your tax money.
Yeah, go into people Dude.
This is I can go off of this.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
We don't take care of our veterans.
I totally get why there's goingto be millions of people that
are going to attempt to comehere.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Oh yeah, what I mean like and again I'm not saying
that's like families, yeah,you're talking.
You're talking 30 year oldmales.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
What are you talking about, Tim Irish, China?
That sounds conspiratorial tome.
No, we're going to have to takethat.
We got the whole episode ofthat.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
I'm joking.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah, oh, no I know, but it's it's.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
There's so much to that that is bad.
I'm all about people cominghere to find a better life for
themselves.
Do it the right way.
Pay taxes just like the rest ofus, but the weight of the you
know illegal immigrants cominghere, that's falling on us.
That's falling on the peoplepaying taxes.
Who's going to pay for that?
There was a.
There's a hospital in New Yorkthat's $130 million in the red

(42:44):
because of all the freehealthcare they've been giving
to the illegal immigrants thathave been put in that city.
No kidding.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Who's going to pay for that?
But I'm saying it's like Idon't like I get it Like people
want a better life, but you needto take care of your citizens
and your people first, and thepeople who fought for this
country, the veterans.
There are kids getting kickedout of high schools so illegal
immigrants can sleep there.
They can't go to school thatday.
That just occurred.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah, it just occurred A week or two ago.
Yeah, I forgot what state itwas.
Was it in New York?
It might have been New York orthere was a, I don't know.
I don't want to say which oneit was because I can't remember,
but that was the article linetalking about that.
They had to shut down schoolsbecause they need temporary
housing.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah, I think it's crazy.
Why are we pushing veterans outof homes that are provided for
them?
You know, shelters to highsillegal immigrants who didn't
fight for this country and ourfreedoms and sacrifice and go
through what they went through?
It doesn't make any sense.
It's completely wrong.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
And it's like the craziest argument ever too,
because it's like, if you takelike, if I'm explaining my
opinion on this subject matter,there's no way like I'm not
going to sound a little bitunempathizing towards people
coming over here, right, becauseit's like, but this has nothing
to do with that.

(44:00):
There are a ton of people whoare absolutely they're worthy,
deserving.
They deserve everything thatthey get and they want to bring
a hardworking, a hardworkinglifestyle to this, to our
country right To our state,really.
And and totally contributors,and it's like yeah, the problem

(44:21):
is that it's like that's notlike all, like everybody who
comes here, and that's where theissues lie, because it's like
anyone who could be able toprovide that.
It's like 100%, come here, doyour thing, enjoy the
opportunities that this countrygives you.
I totally agree with that and Ihope the best for everyone that
is here.
But it's like when you havelike this and a lot of it, I

(44:41):
think, too, is like politicaljargon, like they're just trying
to get you fired up, becausethey're like oh, this is what's
most important.
You're like no, we have a shitton of people here that need
help, that need the assistance,and like and even those people
that are on assistance, it'slike dude, that's a dicey area
too, because it's like how manypeople take advantage?
How many people are actuallyusing it as a opportunity to
move forward rather than relyingon it?

(45:02):
You know so.
It's like there's so many cutsof this pie that we can't eat,
let alone worried about the restof shit going on in the world,
and that's where it's like itstarts to become.
It's like, you know, you end upsounding like.
You're like no, we shouldprotect the borders.
You're like not because I don'twant people to be here, but I
feel like we have a ton of shitwe got to sift through here.
So let's make this awesome, getbetter and then have a system of

(45:24):
bringing people in, becausethere's always going to be
people that are going to be here, and that's the bummer part,
because you can't snap yourfingers and everyone can be
where they want to be at once.
There's a process to this shit,and that would be if you and I
packed our bags right now andwe're going to pick anywhere,

(45:44):
but you know what you're notdoing.
You're not getting thereillegally and if you do, they're
going to kick your ass outbecause there isn't another
country that exists.
I mean maybe, like, maybe someMiddle Eastern places, but they
won't kick you out becausethey'll kill you.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Like it's not, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
There's a picture.
There's a picture I saw ofEgypt and I will end that
subject with this Dude it was.
It was like three storagecontainers high and every story
on the top part of the containerhad barbed wire.
It looked huge, yeah.
And they're like, guess wherethis is?
Like, yeah, egypt, egypt issomeone illegally roots here.

(46:19):
So what's the big?
You know?
They're showing all thecountries that are doing it now
and there's countries that arepaying for it Germany, sweden,
like they have some madnessthat's been happening over there
.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Some just happened in Spain the other day, where
they're having like there's alot, yeah, anyway it's just a
mess.
No, it's just an issue likethat extends past just our
country.
We're not the only.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
People say, oh, it's right, it's not racist, it's
really not.
You need to protect yourfreaking people first.
You have to take care of yourcountry and your people first
and then start helping others.
Why are we, why are we tryingto take care of everybody else
but our own?
It doesn't make any sense.
It's so completely backwards.
But anyways, the last thing Iwant to talk about here real
quick is we have firstresponders night of hope coming

(47:00):
up.
That is March 8th.
I'm like, I'm from Burgundy,march 8.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
I was like where's the cue card?
Tim had to say was it isabsolutely on March 8.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
My bad March 8, 2024.
It's from 7 and 9pm.
This is a night that supportedby the Fire Brigade, john Gary
from San Diego we have dirtydeuce Matt, he's in support of
it.
We have so many people, the seaof mud, apparel from Kyle
Conforty.
This is a night for firstresponders or fire, military,
nurses, police, anyone that'sthat responds and help others.

(47:34):
This is for you, this is foryour families.
This is all in support of themental health of first
responders, because weunderstand the toll that it
takes on you.
We are first responders andthis is something that I've had
in my heart for a long time,especially coming back to my own
faith.
I'm a prodigal son and I justhad this huge feeling like, hey,
our community needs help.
This has been in the works forsome time and it's going to be a

(47:56):
great night.
I hope to see everybody there.
Jordan's going to be there.
I'm going to be there.
I'm going to be singing anddoing part of the concert.
I'm also going to be speakingfor the night.
Little nervous.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
It's like this dude, just with more people.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, yeah, I'm nervous but I'm excited.
I just want people to realizethere's hope, whether you want
to believe or not, but there'shope out there.
There's an answer to whatyou're going through and he's
going to help you and he lovesyou and it's just going to be a
night for everybody our families, everyone's invited.
But all the money donations aregoing to go to first responder

(48:32):
mental health, which is throughthe Iverson Foundation.
So I'm really excited aboutthis.
A lot of work has gone behindthis and I'm not getting paid
for any of it.
There's no money coming to me.
Everything goes to the IversonFoundation and I just want our
community to get together as one, as a big family, and celebrate
and support each other andrealize that at the end of the
day, no matter what, we're goingto be all right.

(48:53):
God's with us, he is for us,he's going to make a way.
Even when you can't see andit's dark out there and you're
going through a terrible time,it's going to be all right.
Just give it some time, havefaith, trust him, you're gonna
get through it.
Let's go, baby.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
I don't even know how to follow up with you.
I think one.
I think it's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
I'm excited.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
I think that you know not to kiss your ass, but I
know that you've worked reallyhard on getting this going and I
think it's amazing and I'm soexcited to see what the time and
effort and everything that youput into this will come to you.
And I think you know, and mostimportantly, is this rep this

(49:40):
honestly like this representswhat we've, what we discuss a
lot on here and you know, andnot to be super religious or
anything along those lines ormaybe to be religious along
those lines but a lot of thewhat, the premise of whether
it's been guests on here, a lotof discussions everything always
seems to end up going to thatversion of hope and the

(50:03):
explanation getting there, youknow, or whether it's, you know,
something happens in someone'slife and they come to this or
that someone happens andexperience and it changes their
course, and then they autocorrect and go back towards this
.
I think it kind of allencapsulating a lot of the stuff
that we discussed.
So it's like what a neat thingto have the representation with
the brand of let's go podcastand going out there and doing

(50:27):
what you've put together, and Ithink it's for a great reason,
you know.
I really think that.
You know it's like, look, we'vebeat this into the ground, but
it's like, you know, like peoplestruggle, you know whether it's
visible or not, and I thinkthat having the open dialogue

(50:49):
and, you know, doing even thelittle bits that we can we've
shared a lot of experiencestalking with how we've either
tried to help people or justbeing available to people and or
going through stuff ourselves,things like that is that it's so
important to have thatcommunication factor.
And I think what doing this andhaving this like open display,

(51:10):
you know, like hopefully,obviously, hopefully there's a
ton of people that show up and Ihope there's a lot of people
that show up that maybe likearen't associated with all these
other people.
I hope that these people likeget there and like it gives them
a chance to be like dude, I'mnot alone.
You know, like there's thishuge group, whether it's you're
finding, you know, comfort inothers here, or whether it's

(51:33):
finding comfort in your faith orsomething to believe in, just
in general right, and that'swhat I think is so cool about it
.
Like you know, it's not thiswhole like I'm gonna jam it down
your throat.
Christianity, like I was like,and we've and I've always used
your quote, dude like therelationship with your religion
is like it's gritty you know,but I think that that's like the

(51:55):
most, like that's probably foreverybody, but like the way
looking at that, like it's aperfect way to describe it and,
honestly, if we're gonna renameit, I'd just call it gritty.
But I hope it's way nice, likeit's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yeah, and I well dude , it was tough to try and find
someone to a pastor to comespeak.
One a few wanted a lot of money.
Like I had to raise money forthis.
I was going around asking formoney.
Let me tell you, I hate askingpeople for money.
That's not me, and I had a fewthat I thought of and talked to,
but honestly, at the end of theday, when I really thought

(52:30):
about, like I think that peoplethat are who are gonna connect
with our first responders is afirst responder.
I'm gonna talk, I'm just gonnatell my story and what I've been
through and what Lord's donefor me and how it's changed my
life.
And that's not about religion,it's about a relationship.
And, yes, you know what, if youhave faith in Lord, guess what?
It's gonna be ugly at times.
It's gonna be gritty becauseyou're human.
You're gonna mess up, you'regonna make mistakes and things

(52:52):
are gonna happen to you that areout of your control.
And it's gonna hurt, it's gonnasuck, but there's still joy to
be had in this world because youhave hope and that hope isn't
Jesus and there's a way It'll befine.
Like I'm not about this wholeyou gotta make prayer, this
whole thing where you gotta bequiet, get on your knees.
No, you know what?
Guess who the Lord used when itwas in the gospels with the

(53:13):
disciples.
Those dudes were sailors.
You don't think those wererough guys.
They were not the best ofpeople, they were the down and
outters.
Nobody wanted them around, yetthe Lord still used them.
The woman at the well samething.
She was sleeping with a bunchof men.
Her husband's still at home.
Guess what?
Lord loved her and said youknow what Just don't send
anymore, get out of here.
He didn't go to the well forthe water, he went there for her

(53:34):
.
He uses people that are brokenand messed up to show that you
don't need to be perfect to makea difference.
You just gotta love God, yougotta love him.
That's it.
It's a relationship, baby.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Let's go.
I was like it's a relationshipbaby.
I keep like double pumpingbecause the bell's not right
here.
I was like ding, ding, ding.
Anyways dude.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
I'm excited for it.
I hope to see everybody there.
It's at Shepard's Grove Churchin Irvine.
Go to our social media, ourInstagram.
The link is on there for you todonate.
We have the flower that's upthere.
We're gonna keep pushing thisfor the rest of the month.
Please bring your family, bringyourself, bring your father,
your son, whoever you wannabring.
Everyone's welcome, but justknow it's gonna be supporting

(54:13):
for responders and I'm excitedit's gonna be good man, it's
gonna be really good.
I'm so nervous about this.
You have no idea it's gonna begood.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
This is not me, bro.
This is not me.
I know it's not you, I'm justsaying don't.
Well, okay, Part of me is likeso the singing part, I know
you're gonna be fine, Cause I'veseen you sing in front of a
massive crowd.
But the speaking I couldtotally understand that it's
nerve-wracking Cause, likepublic speaking, I don't know.

(54:44):
I feel comfortable talking infront of people, but I'm also
not running in, you know.
I'm so, like you know, likethere's a little bit of that
where it's like I don't know.
I also feel like I never givemyself too high of an
expectation when it comes tolike public talking.
I just feel like if I couldstring sentences together or not
set her, it's a win.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
No, I feel you you know what I look back on.
When we started this podcastand even though I told someone
this, they're like, oh, you'regonna.
Well, you know, since you'reChristian, you know believer
again like man, like you'regonna take down some of those
podcasts.
I said no, not at all.
I said I want people to seethat.
I want people to see someonewho was lost and someone who you
can hear me struggle with myfaith because I still talk about

(55:26):
it and then someone who cameback to the faith.
That's my story.
It needs to be on there.
I have nothing to be ashamed of.
No, I don't think you shouldeither.
Yeah, no, it's staying.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
But I think that's like, that's the point.
Like that's the point.
Like when you talked about thedisciples being picked and being
a bunch of sailors, are allthese stories that are
predicated off of people thathad like would be considered
broken lives in that standpoint,Like as far as like on a godly
level?
I think that is the point.
The point is to show peoplethat, like, whatever you've done
, wherever you've been, whatevermessed up things, that you feel

(55:59):
like you are, like you're notin the big picture and you can
change and you could reformat,and that shit ain't easy.
So let me, when I say that it isnot condescending in the
slightest, it is very hard, butjust knowing that you're putting
the hard work in towards thislike awesome thing after, and I
think that that's important andI hope people hear that and I

(56:22):
hope people like go dang dude,like if they listened to old
episodes, for sure demeanor wasa lot different, you know.
But I also think that's likethat's life, and we grow and we,
you know, you change.
Well, that too, and I feel likeI know I don't sound different,
but I feel like I talk a littlebit better than I did before.
Well, you for sure, dude.

(56:43):
Yeah, no, I'm saying like,cause I feel like I was like
bruh bruh, bruh bruh, you know,like the entire time.
So I feel like I've been ableto like rally a little bit.
But anyway, dude, I'm superpumped and I can't wait to it's
cool, can't wait to be there atthis night of hope man.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
It's gonna be awesome .
It's gonna be really good.
I am really excited to see yourdad there.
When your dad got baptized,that really touched me.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Because I know.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
you know you've confided me a lot.
I know this.
You know his story, but to seewho he is now is touching, it's
inspirational, it's beautiful.
You're seeing God's mercy workin a man's life and change him,
you know.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Yeah, no, it was funny, Cause when he talks to me
about that, like, oh, shouldbring your dad.
I told him I was like, hey, yougotta come to this.
And he was like, oh, absolutely.
You know yeah no, it's awesomeand, yeah, his life is.
You know the ups and downs andeverything and, but you know
what, At the end of the day,like, he's always been a really
good example and I reallycherish my relationship that I

(57:41):
have.
Well, I have both my parents.
I'm very fortunate, dude, LikeI love my parents and I
absolutely yeah, and they're in.
Like it doesn't mean we're allmessed up in our own ways
because we for sure are.
But like I definitely like I'mvery, and especially as I get
older, I just appreciate it alot, you know, and something I
didn't realize when I wasyounger.

(58:01):
But again, like I kind of feellike all the craziness sometimes
needs to happen to have thesesituations that you have
afterwards.
And it doesn't mean that like Iwant anyone to go through bad
things.
I just feel like the only wayto like understand it is that,
like I think that I wouldn't bea different person, or I would
be a different person if Ididn't experience the things

(58:21):
that I had, and you know,whether it's on the family level
or a personal life or arelationship to anything that
put me where I'm at now and I,honestly, am blessed, you know,
and I was saying that in thevery beginning, you know, and
now it's like just life, youknow, and that's what it is.
And you know you gotta embraceit and you know, and if it's bad

(58:42):
, do your best to change it.
If it's bad, open up a littlebit or look outside the box just
a little bit, because Iguarantee you there's someone
else out there.
And you know, like again withwhat this represents, like if
you're struggling, if you'rethis come, you're not alone.
You know, and I think that thatkind of mentality will just

(59:02):
it'll bring good things for youand you know, and hopefully the
bigger part is it brings goodthings to other people you know,
so they can get a little tasteof that, cause I think that's
what's missing in a lot ofpeople's lives.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Yeah, I'll end on this.
Man, I've been really workingon writing what I'm gonna talk
about, which is wild cause-.
You gotta chat GBD no no, no,no, I'm just kidding.
No, no, no, that would be adope intro it's really really
yeah, I know right.
No, but there's one thing thatyou know, that I've written down

(59:34):
, that's.
You know these other things I'mgonna talk about what hope does
and have your faith in Jesus ishe gives you forgiveness for
your past.
He gives you peace and thepresent and hope for your future
.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
I mean dude then that's what came to me.
I remember thinking about thenight and what I want for people
to hear about the Lord andhaving that hope and that faith.
That's what it does.
We all deal with that the guiltand shame, and you know peace
and the present, but what'sgonna happen?
It's like everything's gonna befine.
Man, chill, baby.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Yeah, seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
It's gonna be good.
But you know, to end on thistoo, what you said is a lot of
times and we all look back andsay, oh, I can't believe I did
this and why don't I go downthis road.
And you know, every family hasits dirt.
But you know, a lot of timesour greatest failures and our
deepest pains are launching pathfor what God's gonna do in your
life of something greater andbetter.

(01:00:24):
You just gotta get through it.
Gotta hold out baby, absolutely.
You know what I'm saying.
Hey, man, dude, anyways, dude,welcome back.
Yeah, what's up?

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Over here, baby, you know.
Okay, just if anyone has madeit this far in the podcast.
Yeah, None of this was talkedabout, Not one second of it.
In fact, the opener of this waswhat do you wanna do?

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Yeah, we said, let's just see where it goes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
The sheep in the hip will figure it out along the way
, anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
So that's why I love it, dude, but Absolutely it's
great we're on season two, wegot this.
This is our first event forlet's Go Podcast and we have
such great support Again fromthe Fire Brigade, dirty Deuce,
sea of Mud, apparel PublicSquare.
There's just so much love andhelp coming to this.
I hope this turns into anannual thing for us.
Absolutely and we can keepmoving forward with it and keep

(01:01:15):
not just having people listen tothe podcast, but be impacted by
these events that we can put on.
It's exciting, I'm excited, I'mnervous and it's very stressful
, but you know what?
I think it's one of thosethings where we can't there's no
price tag on what we're doingfor other people right now and
how it's gonna help them,inspire them and give them again
hope.
It's priceless man.

(01:01:36):
So let's do it, baby.
Let's do it.
Welcome back.
Congratulations on the kid,babe.
Thanks, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Anyways, let's go on three.
Yeah, you ready dawg?
Of course I'm ready.
Let's do this.
One, two, three, let's go.
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Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Bye everybody, I'll see you next time.