August 8, 2024 • 20 mins
Ever wondered how someone can turn their life around while behind bars? Meet Timothy Wayne Carr, who is currently incarcerated at the Dillwyn Correctional Facility in Virginia. Timothy is not just another inmate; he's a beacon of hope and transformation. Having completed an AutoCAD course and participated in the prison’s first-ever TED Talk event—where he even met a potential millionaire business partner—Timothy is setting the stage for a remarkable comeback. Tune in to hear his plans for establishing a corporation and a nonprofit aimed at providing job opportunities and mentorship for inner-city youth and learn what fuels his unwavering determination to make a positive impact.
Struggling to maintain relationships while facing the hurdles of rebuilding credit and accessing educational resources? Timothy's journey offers a raw, inspirational look at these challenges and more. We'll discuss the emotional toll of maintaining family bonds from a distance and explore the critical role of community support in overcoming bureaucratic obstacles. Timothy’s disciplined approach to reintegration, his focus on strong family values, and his blueprint for future success serve as a guiding light for anyone facing similar adversities. Join us as we unpack the complexities of life during and after incarceration and discover how education and mentorship can pave the way to financial stability and personal growth.
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Chuck (00:10):
Hey, welcome back to another episode of let' Just
Talk About it podcast.
I'm your host, chuck, and ifyou're here for the first time,
this platform was created togive genuine people just like
you an opportunity to share aportion of your life's journey.
So, with that being said, Ihave returning guest Timothy
Wayne Carr on with me today,who's currently incarcerated at
the Dill and CorrectionalFacility here in Virginia, and
(00:32):
on this episode, we have aconversation about his exit
strategy once he's released fromprison.
So, hey, you definitely don'twant to miss this amazing
dialogue today.
As a matter of fact, do me afavor Go and grab your husband,
your wife, your children, oreven call a friend and gather
around to listen to myconversation with Timothy Carr
on let's Just Talk About itpodcast.
(00:53):
Hey, let's jump right in.
What's up Nothing much man, I'mhanging in there.
Yes, sir man, how you doing.
What's up, tim?
Nothing much man, I'm hangingin there.
Timothy Carr (01:04):
Yes, sir, man, how you doing?
I'm hanging in there.
Just switched to another from alevel three to a level two man,
it's dormitory man, it's okay,it's all right, right now.
Chuck (01:14):
Got you, Got you man.
So people don't.
The only problem is Huh.
Timothy Carr (01:19):
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
The only problem is they don'tlet you know.
Before you get here, you got tobuy everything T-shirt,
underwear, socks, right rightWashcloth.
Chuck (01:29):
Wow, Go ahead.
People don't know about thatjourney, that bus ride man.
They don't know.
Timothy Carr (01:34):
No, no, no, no.
I'm going to write a book aboutthat.
Chuck (01:38):
Yeah, yeah, hey.
Timothy Carr (01:40):
Something going on .
Chuck (01:42):
Yeah, man, Good to hear your voice.
Man.
What have you been up to sincethe last time we had an
interview, man?
Timothy Carr (01:47):
Well, I finished up AutoCAD.
Chuck (01:52):
Right.
Timothy Carr (01:52):
Computer Autograph in class.
Chuck (01:54):
Okay.
Timothy Carr (01:54):
Got my certificate in that I did TEDx.
It's called TED Talk.
That's a real big thing goingon in the prison.
It's called Ted Talk.
That's a real big thing goingon in the prison.
They look highly, they highlyfavor that it was the first one
in Virginia.
Chuck (02:12):
Right.
Timothy Carr (02:12):
Where I played the keyboard for a couple of guys
rapping and whatnot.
And then we did an originalsong with the band Green Machine
Band Okay, with Brother Ross,who's a part of my service in
United Church of Christ in theprison.
So after that you know they hada hold on me because there was
(02:33):
an administration move and nowI'm at Dillwyn.
Chuck (02:36):
Okay.
Timothy Carr (02:40):
D-I-L-L-W-Y-N facility in level two.
You know, now I'm here, man,and just trying to get in the
kitchen and trying to get inclass and trying to do
everything I can do to.
You know, get my processrolling for this partner.
Chuck (02:56):
Man, that's tough for process, man.
People don't understand.
You know the things you got togo through and the feeling of
being away from your family andmoments like that.
Timothy Carr (03:08):
So yeah, the biggest moment is having to call
your family when you got a joband then, when you don't have a
job, telling them you need somefunds and they struggling out
there right along with you.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, man, things are hard.
Yeah mean, yeah, man, thingsare hard.
Chuck (03:26):
Yeah, things are hard, man, it's like real hard.
People, you know, got their ownstuff, and that's one of the
things I had to learn when I wasaway.
I had to realize that, you know, people got their own
responsibilities, man.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, no doubt.
Yeah, they got their own.
But, like you said, that's whyI try not to order.
Timothy Carr (03:44):
That's right.
That's why I try not to botheranybody.
You know, try to get a job inhere.
Yeah, Do what I can do toprovide it for myself.
Chuck (03:52):
Yeah, yeah, man, I get it , I get it.
So, so, talk about, man, yourplans, man, when you, when you
what we call, come home man,when you, when you um, what we?
Timothy Carr (04:07):
call come home, come, come on land.
What's your plans?
Yeah, what's my plan?
Yeah, oh, my exit, what I call,that's what I call my exit
strategy, exit strategy that'sthe name of this episode exit
strategy.
Let's talk about it yeah, yeah,that's what I call my exit
strategy.
Yeah, well, my exit strategy isto uh have my own corporation,
investment development company.
Chuck (04:26):
Okay.
Timothy Carr (04:27):
And nonprofit to help inner city youth, dealing
with a whole bunch of differentthings and also giving them
access to have job opportunitiesso that they don't feel like
you know, saying they got to goout and do the wrong thing to
make money yeah.
(04:48):
You know, but give them thatsort of insight on things that
they could do to help betterthemselves.
Chuck (04:56):
Right.
Timothy Carr (04:57):
And why in high school, junior high and high
school coming up, you know.
Show them a different direction.
Chuck (05:02):
Yeah.
Timothy Carr (05:02):
Because it's kids out there raising kids pretty
much Wow, and that's it, youknow.
Showed them a differentdirection.
Chuck (05:05):
you know, because it's kids out there raising kids
pretty much Wow, and that's it.
Timothy Carr (05:07):
You know, I'm going to flip houses, I'm going
to do a whole bunch of things,man, I just can't even name them
all.
While I was at TED Talk, I metone of the guys.
He's a big time, he's prettymuch a millionaire.
But I told him I time he'spretty much a millionaire, but I
told him I said you're going tobe my partner.
Shook his hand and said you'regoing to be my partner when I
come home.
I said I got some things thatyou're going to benefit from.
(05:32):
We're both going to benefit from.
He said well, when are yougetting out?
I said as soon as I get thisparty.
Other than that, I got a littlebit of time.
So long long story short.
He was like well, I need tohear this man.
I said I can't tell you nowbecause I can't have you run off
with my idea.
Chuck (05:48):
Yeah, what kind of millionaire is he man?
What does he do?
Who, what does he do?
What kind of millionaire?
You say he's a millionaire,what does he do?
Timothy Carr (05:57):
Oh, yeah, he's a Chatham.
He owns a power company.
Chuck (06:04):
He's an owner, wow, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Black millionaire.
Huh, he's a black millionaire.
Timothy Carr (06:14):
No, no, no, this is a white man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, older dude,real cool.
Met a lot of people A younglady named Rhea Cousins from
Richmond who was a delegate inRichmond, virginia, and she's
got aspirations to do some bigthings.
I can't put out there exactlywhat she's going to do next from
(06:37):
the delegate, but she came withand do some big things I can't
put out there exactly what she'sgoing to do next from the
delegate.
Okay, but you know, yeah, no, Ishook hands with a lot of good
people.
A lot of good people Wow Didn'tsee me as an inmate, but saw me
as a man, as a man, so theycame in and talked to you all
about some things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitelythat Okay Shared their story, we
shared some of our stories withthem and people are ready for
(07:00):
us to come home with great ideasand do some big things, which I
have planned to do.
Chuck (07:07):
I always say, man, it's a different energy when people
come home from prison, man,After working for 23 cents, 30
cents, and to realize you canmake money hourly and get paid
or you know, start your own.
Timothy Carr (07:21):
That's right.
You know what I mean.
Chuck (07:23):
It's a different energy when you hit the ground running
man.
Timothy Carr (07:26):
Yeah, and I spoke to a lot of guys in here.
You know I don't really do toomuch talking.
If you come to me, we're goingto build and talk about how we
can make ourselves millionairesjust by overnight.
Chuck (07:42):
Yeah.
Timothy Carr (07:44):
That's the goal.
It's to go millionairesovernight.
Chuck (07:46):
Communication.
Timothy Carr (07:48):
That's communication.
Working together.
Chuck (07:50):
Yeah.
Timothy Carr (07:52):
A lot of guys in here are not estranged of the
hard work.
Like you said, I work 15 hoursa day, pretty much five, six
days a week for 45 cents.
You do the math.
What do you think I'm going todo when I get out there?
You?
Chuck (08:07):
ain't top paid 45 cents.
Timothy Carr (08:09):
That's right.
What do you think I'm going todo when I get out there?
You?
Chuck (08:13):
don't get it.
It's a different energy man.
Timothy Carr (08:17):
Business minded folks think alike.
You know what I'm saying.
You know get that credit right.
Keep that credit right andbuild from there.
Chuck (08:27):
Yeah, you know it's a crazy thing, man.
You know, if a person do likeseven years or whatever, away
their credit like it goes backto like you never used it.
Timothy Carr (08:40):
Right, right, right, yeah, right.
Well, I was.
You know I'm talking to theseguys and talking about, you know
, building myself up you knowtalking to myself about, you
know, not only personal credit,but business credit as well
Stocks as well.
I've already asked these peoplehere.
(09:01):
Since I got here I know they'resick of me already I've turned
in about 15, 20 pieces ofrequest forms for all different
types of things.
They have sheet metal, theyhave welding, they have computer
courses on business.
I told them I needed a collegecourse on business.
I told them I needed a collegecourse on business.
So they said they had that, buteverything is a waiting list.
(09:24):
You know, what I mean.
Everything is a waiting list.
You could be on a waiting listfor a year, two years.
You know what I mean.
Wow, so I got to keep pushing,keep reading books.
Chuck (09:34):
Educate yourself.
Timothy Carr (09:36):
So for people who don't know what is a request
form, oh, request form is thingsthat you have to request to the
administration, that whateveryou want to do and you got to
make sure you give it, presentit to have it, attention to the
right person or person in orderto get it, or they'll send it
back to you.
I don't like to waste ink orpaper right yeah, no to get it
(09:58):
or they'll send it back to you.
Chuck (10:00):
I don't like to waste ink or paper.
No, for real, make sure itmakes sense.
You never know.
Timothy Carr (10:08):
That's what I say about writing letters and
letting letters home in the sameway.
What do you say?
I can write a letter all daylong.
It's very personal, but at theend of the day it's no different
than the kiosk.
That's why you know I likepeople that I can't contact.
You know, get on the kiosk,I'll shoot you an email.
You know I don't mind buyingsome stamps to shoot you an
(10:31):
email to say, hey, you knowbuying stamps and then you know
buying paper.
You know I can't hustlebackwards, I got to hustle
forward.
I like that.
You're right, you can't hustlebackwards.
Yeah, I can't hustle backwardsin here.
I mean, I got to spend $5 onsome sheets of paper, almost $1
(10:52):
on stamps, $50 on a stamp or$0.75, whatever they charge it
now.
Then I got to get the envelopes, all that that came up.
You know, that's one stamp onthe kiosk, yeah, and I can send
you almost a book on the kiosk.
Wow.
Chuck (11:11):
Kind of switching lanes man you never know, who's
listening.
You never know who's listening.
And you have children.
You have a son and you have adaughter.
How is that Two?
Timothy Carr (11:22):
daughters Two daughters.
Chuck (11:23):
I'm sorry, I stand corrected.
Two daughters, how does thatfeel?
You know what I'm saying beingaway from them, not being able
to communicate with them likeyou really desire to communicate
.
Timothy Carr (11:36):
Yeah, you know, just like you know, all my yeah,
you know, just like you know,all my kids, you know, I have
one that's a daddy's girl andthat's the youngest one.
Chuck (11:45):
She's a daddy's girl.
Timothy Carr (11:46):
You know she lost her mother in 2018, december,
but she's always been a daddy'sgirl.
My oldest daughter, denisha,she's independent.
She's very independent and havetwo grandkids, drew and Elena.
Chuck (12:02):
Okay.
Timothy Carr (12:03):
And they're beautiful, you know what I'm
saying with my son-in-law andthen my son, younger son,
timothy.
Chuck (12:09):
Okay.
Timothy Carr (12:10):
My mini-me.
My mini-mini-me, you know, he'sa merchant seaman.
He discussed with me he didn'twant to go to college and he
wanted to go make money rightnow.
And uh, and you know, we sat onthe phone and when I was in
here and I, you know, I saidthat's what you truly desire to
do.
And then you gotta, you gottago for it, and he's gone for it.
(12:32):
And uh, he's been on the touralready got back and he's going
on the second one.
Chuck (12:37):
Loving it.
Timothy Carr (12:38):
Promotes you?
Yeah, and I'm missing all ofthem.
Yeah, no question.
But that's why it's importantfor me to have the community
help me out with writing lettersso that I can get this part
pushed forward as quick aspossible.
Chuck (12:53):
Got you.
Timothy Carr (12:55):
Yeah.
Chuck (12:56):
Got you, yep.
Timothy Carr (12:58):
And miss the moms and the pops.
You know what I'm saying.
Chuck (13:00):
Right.
Timothy Carr (13:00):
And aunts and uncles and all y'all.
You know, I miss everybody outthere really.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chuck (13:05):
Reason why I brought it up, man, because you know a lot
of younger people.
Whoever man, feel like you knowthey can play Russian roulette.
Throw rocks at the prison walls, man, and feel like you know
nothing's going to happen, man,but when that cage is locked
behind you, man, nobody can youknow help you.
Yeah, you're on your own.
Timothy Carr (13:26):
That's right.
Chuck (13:26):
Yeah, that's right.
You hurt a lot of people.
You just don't affect yourself.
You affect a lot of people.
Yeah, so that's why I wanted tobring that up.
Timothy Carr (13:36):
You don't.
You don't want this life.
This is not the life you wantum it.
You know, the fast life is notgood life out there.
You know I'm saying this we gotto get the men back out.
You got to get the return of thedisciplined man must be that's
dope filled in the house of ofafrican americans and um, and we
(13:59):
gotta stay out of this place.
I got in here late, didn't wantto ever be in here, didn't
think I would ever be in here.
But you know these kids, like Iwas telling you before, kids
raising kids nowadays and justdoing what they want to do.
My former coach has a mentorprogram at one of the schools in
(14:19):
the Virginia Beach PublicSchools, high schools so he
informed me that they're doingsome good things there, and then
some other former coachestalking to these young kids
about staying out of trouble andwhat they can do to better
themselves.
So you know I want to be a partof that and you know, take my
(14:40):
skill as far as music isconcerned.
Chuck (14:43):
Mentoring.
Timothy Carr (14:45):
Yeah, studio and all that stuff be a mentor.
As far as a coach is concerned,there are many avenues I've had
, you know, working in theschool system for 18 years, you
know, as a coach and everything.
You know, talk to a lot ofpeople and dealt with all types
of people On Ritalin.
No mom, no dad, you know sayingsomething.
(15:06):
I have both parents, but youknow it's still the same
situation.
Chuck (15:09):
Right.
Timothy Carr (15:11):
You know people are not being guided in the
direction that they really couldgo and be, successful Wow.
But there are a few that getthrough and do what they need to
successful Wow.
But there are a few that getthrough and do what they need to
do Right, and that's a blessing.
Chuck (15:25):
Yeah.
Timothy Carr (15:27):
That's a blessing.
Chuck (15:27):
I got a question, man.
If you could sit all three ofyour children down right now,
what would you say to them fromthe heart?
Timothy Carr (15:36):
Oh man, I would definitely apologize to them for
putting them in this situationMother and all you know, and
father and all putting my familyand friends in this situation
because that I never should havebeen in.
So I definitely would apologizefor not being there For the
time that I'm gone.
(15:56):
There are a lot of things thatwent on and I know that they
need me out there.
I know that they need me outthere and they want me out there
because they need their fatherand my grandchildren need their
grandfather.
So I would tell them I wouldreally.
You know I love them and that Iapologize to them for putting
them in this situation.
You know, but I can't gobackwards, I can only go forward
(16:21):
.
Chuck (16:21):
I can only go forward and show them.
Timothy Carr (16:23):
I can only show them what's next.
And by coming home and showingthem how to build generational
wealth, which you know, that'swhat sometimes the Lord sits you
down and puts your mindsetwhere it's supposed to be, so
that you can't build thatgenerational wealth.
Chuck (16:42):
I like that Generational, I like it.
Timothy Carr (16:45):
Yeah, generational wealth, yeah, generational, I'm
not going to be your old age,you know what I'm saying God
going to come see me, he goingto come take me home at some
point in time.
Chuck (16:54):
All of us got that appointment At the end of the
day.
Timothy Carr (16:56):
I want to leave some generational wealth for my
kids, grandkids, great-grandkidsand great-great-grandkids and
so on.
We were not taught that asAfrican-Americans.
Absolutely we were not taughtand you know I had to do a lot
of self-studying in here tofigure out some things and do
some things and do a lot ofreading.
(17:18):
And you know, and I've, I'vedone that and educated myself.
So at the end of the day, I'mgoing to educate as many people
as I can and how to, and how tobe partners in business, and,
and, and you have to bepassionate about something in
order to do that?
And being a millionaire doesn'tcome from one thing, it comes
(17:39):
from multiple sources of yeahdifferent streams of income.
Multiple sources of income.
Chuck (17:42):
Yeah.
Timothy Carr (17:44):
And so that's where I'm going.
That's my direction.
Man, I like it.
I'm trying to get out here anddo some big things.
Chuck (17:51):
You're absolutely right, man.
You're absolutely right.
We weren't taught that.
You know that.
You know owning and owning landbeing an entrepreneur.
You know business minded.
You know what I'm saying?
That's right, yeah.
Timothy Carr (18:06):
I would admit a lot of people fell by the
wayside.
But you know, I'm glad thatit's no different than the 300.
No different than the 300.
You remember the story in theBible when they went to the
river and the Lord told them hey, listen, you can't take
everybody with you.
No different than the 300.
You remember the story in theBible when they went to the
river and the Lord told them hey, listen, you can't take
(18:27):
everybody with you.
Send them to the water and letthem drink.
Chuck (18:31):
Okay, you have one minute remaining.
Hey, real quick, real quick.
What would you say to youryounger self if you had the
opportunity?
What would you say to youryounger self if you had the
opportunity to?
Timothy Carr (18:39):
Oh man, I would you say to your younger self if
you had the opportunity to.
Oh man.
I would learn these things andI'm learning it now.
I wish I knew then what I knewthen.
Yeah, so it would change a lotof things.
I would have done a lot ofthings differently.
Yeah, but we got 30 seconds,man.
(19:01):
Thank you for having me, man,and I'll definitely give you a
shout back some other time.
Yes, sir, because you knowwe're going to do the lockdown
thing.
Wow.
Chuck (19:08):
Yeah, timothy Carr.
Thank you so much for being apart of let's Just Talk About it
podcast.
Man, Anything you want to saybefore this call hang up?
Timothy Carr (19:16):
Hey, listen, y'all spread the love and listen.
I need the community to writeletters.
I don't need your money.
I need you to write me acharacter witness letter.
If you know who I am, don'tfall by the wayside.
Just help me look well.
I pray that you.
Chuck (19:31):
Thank you for using gtl wow, what an amazing
conversation today.
I want to thank timothy carrfor having this dialogue with me
today and for sharing his exitstrategy with the world upon his
release, and I also want tothank everyone for always tuning
in to let's just talk about apodcast.
And, hey, if you have any medianeeds, such as videography and
(19:54):
photography, you can reach outto me and my partner Low Mills
at M&B Media on Facebook.
So, as always, until next time,don't hold it in, but let's
just talk about it.
Talk to you soon, you.
Hey, welcome back to another episode of let' Just
Talk About it podcast.
I'm your host, chuck, and ifyou're here for the first time,
this platform was created togive genuine people just like
you an opportunity to share aportion of your life's journey.
So, with that being said, Ihave returning guest Timothy
Wayne Carr on with me today,who's currently incarcerated at
the Dill and CorrectionalFacility here in Virginia, and
(00:32):
on this episode, we have aconversation about his exit
strategy once he's released fromprison.
So, hey, you definitely don'twant to miss this amazing
dialogue today.
As a matter of fact, do me afavor Go and grab your husband,
your wife, your children, oreven call a friend and gather
around to listen to myconversation with Timothy Carr
on let's Just Talk About itpodcast.
(00:53):
Hey, let's jump right in.
What's up Nothing much man, I'mhanging in there.
Yes, sir man, how you doing.
What's up, tim?
Nothing much man, I'm hangingin there.
Timothy Carr (01:04):
Yes, sir, man, how you doing?
I'm hanging in there.
Just switched to another from alevel three to a level two man,
it's dormitory man, it's okay,it's all right, right now.
Chuck (01:14):
Got you, Got you man.
So people don't.
The only problem is Huh.
Timothy Carr (01:19):
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
The only problem is they don'tlet you know.
Before you get here, you got tobuy everything T-shirt,
underwear, socks, right rightWashcloth.
Chuck (01:29):
Wow, Go ahead.
People don't know about thatjourney, that bus ride man.
They don't know.
Timothy Carr (01:34):
No, no, no, no.
I'm going to write a book aboutthat.
Chuck (01:38):
Yeah, yeah, hey.
Timothy Carr (01:40):
Something going on .
Chuck (01:42):
Yeah, man, Good to hear your voice.
Man.
What have you been up to sincethe last time we had an
interview, man?
Timothy Carr (01:47):
Well, I finished up AutoCAD.
Chuck (01:52):
Right.
Timothy Carr (01:52):
Computer Autograph in class.
Chuck (01:54):
Okay.
Timothy Carr (01:54):
Got my certificate in that I did TEDx.
It's called TED Talk.
That's a real big thing goingon in the prison.
It's called Ted Talk.
That's a real big thing goingon in the prison.
They look highly, they highlyfavor that it was the first one
in Virginia.
Chuck (02:12):
Right.
Timothy Carr (02:12):
Where I played the keyboard for a couple of guys
rapping and whatnot.
And then we did an originalsong with the band Green Machine
Band Okay, with Brother Ross,who's a part of my service in
United Church of Christ in theprison.
So after that you know they hada hold on me because there was
(02:33):
an administration move and nowI'm at Dillwyn.
Chuck (02:36):
Okay.
Timothy Carr (02:40):
D-I-L-L-W-Y-N facility in level two.
You know, now I'm here, man,and just trying to get in the
kitchen and trying to get inclass and trying to do
everything I can do to.
You know, get my processrolling for this partner.
Chuck (02:56):
Man, that's tough for process, man.
People don't understand.
You know the things you got togo through and the feeling of
being away from your family andmoments like that.
Timothy Carr (03:08):
So yeah, the biggest moment is having to call
your family when you got a joband then, when you don't have a
job, telling them you need somefunds and they struggling out
there right along with you.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, man, things are hard.
Yeah mean, yeah, man, thingsare hard.
Chuck (03:26):
Yeah, things are hard, man, it's like real hard.
People, you know, got their ownstuff, and that's one of the
things I had to learn when I wasaway.
I had to realize that, you know, people got their own
responsibilities, man.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, no doubt.
Yeah, they got their own.
But, like you said, that's whyI try not to order.
Timothy Carr (03:44):
That's right.
That's why I try not to botheranybody.
You know, try to get a job inhere.
Yeah, Do what I can do toprovide it for myself.
Chuck (03:52):
Yeah, yeah, man, I get it , I get it.
So, so, talk about, man, yourplans, man, when you, when you
what we call, come home man,when you, when you um, what we?
Timothy Carr (04:07):
call come home, come, come on land.
What's your plans?
Yeah, what's my plan?
Yeah, oh, my exit, what I call,that's what I call my exit
strategy, exit strategy that'sthe name of this episode exit
strategy.
Let's talk about it yeah, yeah,that's what I call my exit
strategy.
Yeah, well, my exit strategy isto uh have my own corporation,
investment development company.
Chuck (04:26):
Okay.
Timothy Carr (04:27):
And nonprofit to help inner city youth, dealing
with a whole bunch of differentthings and also giving them
access to have job opportunitiesso that they don't feel like
you know, saying they got to goout and do the wrong thing to
make money yeah.
(04:48):
You know, but give them thatsort of insight on things that
they could do to help betterthemselves.
Chuck (04:56):
Right.
Timothy Carr (04:57):
And why in high school, junior high and high
school coming up, you know.
Show them a different direction.
Chuck (05:02):
Yeah.
Timothy Carr (05:02):
Because it's kids out there raising kids pretty
much Wow, and that's it, youknow.
Showed them a differentdirection.
Chuck (05:05):
you know, because it's kids out there raising kids
pretty much Wow, and that's it.
Timothy Carr (05:07):
You know, I'm going to flip houses, I'm going
to do a whole bunch of things,man, I just can't even name them
all.
While I was at TED Talk, I metone of the guys.
He's a big time, he's prettymuch a millionaire.
But I told him I time he'spretty much a millionaire, but I
told him I said you're going tobe my partner.
Shook his hand and said you'regoing to be my partner when I
come home.
I said I got some things thatyou're going to benefit from.
(05:32):
We're both going to benefit from.
He said well, when are yougetting out?
I said as soon as I get thisparty.
Other than that, I got a littlebit of time.
So long long story short.
He was like well, I need tohear this man.
I said I can't tell you nowbecause I can't have you run off
with my idea.
Chuck (05:48):
Yeah, what kind of millionaire is he man?
What does he do?
Who, what does he do?
What kind of millionaire?
You say he's a millionaire,what does he do?
Timothy Carr (05:57):
Oh, yeah, he's a Chatham.
He owns a power company.
Chuck (06:04):
He's an owner, wow, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Black millionaire.
Huh, he's a black millionaire.
Timothy Carr (06:14):
No, no, no, this is a white man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, older dude,real cool.
Met a lot of people A younglady named Rhea Cousins from
Richmond who was a delegate inRichmond, virginia, and she's
got aspirations to do some bigthings.
I can't put out there exactlywhat she's going to do next from
(06:37):
the delegate, but she came withand do some big things I can't
put out there exactly what she'sgoing to do next from the
delegate.
Okay, but you know, yeah, no, Ishook hands with a lot of good
people.
A lot of good people Wow Didn'tsee me as an inmate, but saw me
as a man, as a man, so theycame in and talked to you all
about some things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitelythat Okay Shared their story, we
shared some of our stories withthem and people are ready for
(07:00):
us to come home with great ideasand do some big things, which I
have planned to do.
Chuck (07:07):
I always say, man, it's a different energy when people
come home from prison, man,After working for 23 cents, 30
cents, and to realize you canmake money hourly and get paid
or you know, start your own.
Timothy Carr (07:21):
That's right.
You know what I mean.
Chuck (07:23):
It's a different energy when you hit the ground running
man.
Timothy Carr (07:26):
Yeah, and I spoke to a lot of guys in here.
You know I don't really do toomuch talking.
If you come to me, we're goingto build and talk about how we
can make ourselves millionairesjust by overnight.
Chuck (07:42):
Yeah.
Timothy Carr (07:44):
That's the goal.
It's to go millionairesovernight.
Chuck (07:46):
Communication.
Timothy Carr (07:48):
That's communication.
Working together.
Chuck (07:50):
Yeah.
Timothy Carr (07:52):
A lot of guys in here are not estranged of the
hard work.
Like you said, I work 15 hoursa day, pretty much five, six
days a week for 45 cents.
You do the math.
What do you think I'm going todo when I get out there?
You?
Chuck (08:07):
ain't top paid 45 cents.
Timothy Carr (08:09):
That's right.
What do you think I'm going todo when I get out there?
You?
Chuck (08:13):
don't get it.
It's a different energy man.
Timothy Carr (08:17):
Business minded folks think alike.
You know what I'm saying.
You know get that credit right.
Keep that credit right andbuild from there.
Chuck (08:27):
Yeah, you know it's a crazy thing, man.
You know, if a person do likeseven years or whatever, away
their credit like it goes backto like you never used it.
Timothy Carr (08:40):
Right, right, right, yeah, right.
Well, I was.
You know I'm talking to theseguys and talking about, you know
, building myself up you knowtalking to myself about, you
know, not only personal credit,but business credit as well
Stocks as well.
I've already asked these peoplehere.
(09:01):
Since I got here I know they'resick of me already I've turned
in about 15, 20 pieces ofrequest forms for all different
types of things.
They have sheet metal, theyhave welding, they have computer
courses on business.
I told them I needed a collegecourse on business.
I told them I needed a collegecourse on business.
So they said they had that, buteverything is a waiting list.
(09:24):
You know, what I mean.
Everything is a waiting list.
You could be on a waiting listfor a year, two years.
You know what I mean.
Wow, so I got to keep pushing,keep reading books.
Chuck (09:34):
Educate yourself.
Timothy Carr (09:36):
So for people who don't know what is a request
form, oh, request form is thingsthat you have to request to the
administration, that whateveryou want to do and you got to
make sure you give it, presentit to have it, attention to the
right person or person in orderto get it, or they'll send it
back to you.
I don't like to waste ink orpaper right yeah, no to get it
(09:58):
or they'll send it back to you.
Chuck (10:00):
I don't like to waste ink or paper.
No, for real, make sure itmakes sense.
You never know.
Timothy Carr (10:08):
That's what I say about writing letters and
letting letters home in the sameway.
What do you say?
I can write a letter all daylong.
It's very personal, but at theend of the day it's no different
than the kiosk.
That's why you know I likepeople that I can't contact.
You know, get on the kiosk,I'll shoot you an email.
You know I don't mind buyingsome stamps to shoot you an
(10:31):
email to say, hey, you knowbuying stamps and then you know
buying paper.
You know I can't hustlebackwards, I got to hustle
forward.
I like that.
You're right, you can't hustlebackwards.
Yeah, I can't hustle backwardsin here.
I mean, I got to spend $5 onsome sheets of paper, almost $1
(10:52):
on stamps, $50 on a stamp or$0.75, whatever they charge it
now.
Then I got to get the envelopes, all that that came up.
You know, that's one stamp onthe kiosk, yeah, and I can send
you almost a book on the kiosk.
Wow.
Chuck (11:11):
Kind of switching lanes man you never know, who's
listening.
You never know who's listening.
And you have children.
You have a son and you have adaughter.
How is that Two?
Timothy Carr (11:22):
daughters Two daughters.
Chuck (11:23):
I'm sorry, I stand corrected.
Two daughters, how does thatfeel?
You know what I'm saying beingaway from them, not being able
to communicate with them likeyou really desire to communicate
.
Timothy Carr (11:36):
Yeah, you know, just like you know, all my yeah,
you know, just like you know,all my kids, you know, I have
one that's a daddy's girl andthat's the youngest one.
Chuck (11:45):
She's a daddy's girl.
Timothy Carr (11:46):
You know she lost her mother in 2018, december,
but she's always been a daddy'sgirl.
My oldest daughter, denisha,she's independent.
She's very independent and havetwo grandkids, drew and Elena.
Chuck (12:02):
Okay.
Timothy Carr (12:03):
And they're beautiful, you know what I'm
saying with my son-in-law andthen my son, younger son,
timothy.
Chuck (12:09):
Okay.
Timothy Carr (12:10):
My mini-me.
My mini-mini-me, you know, he'sa merchant seaman.
He discussed with me he didn'twant to go to college and he
wanted to go make money rightnow.
And uh, and you know, we sat onthe phone and when I was in
here and I, you know, I saidthat's what you truly desire to
do.
And then you gotta, you gottago for it, and he's gone for it.
(12:32):
And uh, he's been on the touralready got back and he's going
on the second one.
Chuck (12:37):
Loving it.
Timothy Carr (12:38):
Promotes you?
Yeah, and I'm missing all ofthem.
Yeah, no question.
But that's why it's importantfor me to have the community
help me out with writing lettersso that I can get this part
pushed forward as quick aspossible.
Chuck (12:53):
Got you.
Timothy Carr (12:55):
Yeah.
Chuck (12:56):
Got you, yep.
Timothy Carr (12:58):
And miss the moms and the pops.
You know what I'm saying.
Chuck (13:00):
Right.
Timothy Carr (13:00):
And aunts and uncles and all y'all.
You know, I miss everybody outthere really.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chuck (13:05):
Reason why I brought it up, man, because you know a lot
of younger people.
Whoever man, feel like you knowthey can play Russian roulette.
Throw rocks at the prison walls, man, and feel like you know
nothing's going to happen, man,but when that cage is locked
behind you, man, nobody can youknow help you.
Yeah, you're on your own.
Timothy Carr (13:26):
That's right.
Chuck (13:26):
Yeah, that's right.
You hurt a lot of people.
You just don't affect yourself.
You affect a lot of people.
Yeah, so that's why I wanted tobring that up.
Timothy Carr (13:36):
You don't.
You don't want this life.
This is not the life you wantum it.
You know, the fast life is notgood life out there.
You know I'm saying this we gotto get the men back out.
You got to get the return of thedisciplined man must be that's
dope filled in the house of ofafrican americans and um, and we
(13:59):
gotta stay out of this place.
I got in here late, didn't wantto ever be in here, didn't
think I would ever be in here.
But you know these kids, like Iwas telling you before, kids
raising kids nowadays and justdoing what they want to do.
My former coach has a mentorprogram at one of the schools in
(14:19):
the Virginia Beach PublicSchools, high schools so he
informed me that they're doingsome good things there, and then
some other former coachestalking to these young kids
about staying out of trouble andwhat they can do to better
themselves.
So you know I want to be a partof that and you know, take my
(14:40):
skill as far as music isconcerned.
Chuck (14:43):
Mentoring.
Timothy Carr (14:45):
Yeah, studio and all that stuff be a mentor.
As far as a coach is concerned,there are many avenues I've had
, you know, working in theschool system for 18 years, you
know, as a coach and everything.
You know, talk to a lot ofpeople and dealt with all types
of people On Ritalin.
No mom, no dad, you know sayingsomething.
(15:06):
I have both parents, but youknow it's still the same
situation.
Chuck (15:09):
Right.
Timothy Carr (15:11):
You know people are not being guided in the
direction that they really couldgo and be, successful Wow.
But there are a few that getthrough and do what they need to
successful Wow.
But there are a few that getthrough and do what they need to
do Right, and that's a blessing.
Chuck (15:25):
Yeah.
Timothy Carr (15:27):
That's a blessing.
Chuck (15:27):
I got a question, man.
If you could sit all three ofyour children down right now,
what would you say to them fromthe heart?
Timothy Carr (15:36):
Oh man, I would definitely apologize to them for
putting them in this situationMother and all you know, and
father and all putting my familyand friends in this situation
because that I never should havebeen in.
So I definitely would apologizefor not being there For the
time that I'm gone.
(15:56):
There are a lot of things thatwent on and I know that they
need me out there.
I know that they need me outthere and they want me out there
because they need their fatherand my grandchildren need their
grandfather.
So I would tell them I wouldreally.
You know I love them and that Iapologize to them for putting
them in this situation.
You know, but I can't gobackwards, I can only go forward
(16:21):
.
Chuck (16:21):
I can only go forward and show them.
Timothy Carr (16:23):
I can only show them what's next.
And by coming home and showingthem how to build generational
wealth, which you know, that'swhat sometimes the Lord sits you
down and puts your mindsetwhere it's supposed to be, so
that you can't build thatgenerational wealth.
Chuck (16:42):
I like that Generational, I like it.
Timothy Carr (16:45):
Yeah, generational wealth, yeah, generational, I'm
not going to be your old age,you know what I'm saying God
going to come see me, he goingto come take me home at some
point in time.
Chuck (16:54):
All of us got that appointment At the end of the
day.
Timothy Carr (16:56):
I want to leave some generational wealth for my
kids, grandkids, great-grandkidsand great-great-grandkids and
so on.
We were not taught that asAfrican-Americans.
Absolutely we were not taughtand you know I had to do a lot
of self-studying in here tofigure out some things and do
some things and do a lot ofreading.
(17:18):
And you know, and I've, I'vedone that and educated myself.
So at the end of the day, I'mgoing to educate as many people
as I can and how to, and how tobe partners in business, and,
and, and you have to bepassionate about something in
order to do that?
And being a millionaire doesn'tcome from one thing, it comes
(17:39):
from multiple sources of yeahdifferent streams of income.
Multiple sources of income.
Chuck (17:42):
Yeah.
Timothy Carr (17:44):
And so that's where I'm going.
That's my direction.
Man, I like it.
I'm trying to get out here anddo some big things.
Chuck (17:51):
You're absolutely right, man.
You're absolutely right.
We weren't taught that.
You know that.
You know owning and owning landbeing an entrepreneur.
You know business minded.
You know what I'm saying?
That's right, yeah.
Timothy Carr (18:06):
I would admit a lot of people fell by the
wayside.
But you know, I'm glad thatit's no different than the 300.
No different than the 300.
You remember the story in theBible when they went to the
river and the Lord told them hey, listen, you can't take
everybody with you.
No different than the 300.
You remember the story in theBible when they went to the
river and the Lord told them hey, listen, you can't take
(18:27):
everybody with you.
Send them to the water and letthem drink.
Chuck (18:31):
Okay, you have one minute remaining.
Hey, real quick, real quick.
What would you say to youryounger self if you had the
opportunity?
What would you say to youryounger self if you had the
opportunity to?
Timothy Carr (18:39):
Oh man, I would you say to your younger self if
you had the opportunity to.
Oh man.
I would learn these things andI'm learning it now.
I wish I knew then what I knewthen.
Yeah, so it would change a lotof things.
I would have done a lot ofthings differently.
Yeah, but we got 30 seconds,man.
(19:01):
Thank you for having me, man,and I'll definitely give you a
shout back some other time.
Yes, sir, because you knowwe're going to do the lockdown
thing.
Wow.
Chuck (19:08):
Yeah, timothy Carr.
Thank you so much for being apart of let's Just Talk About it
podcast.
Man, Anything you want to saybefore this call hang up?
Timothy Carr (19:16):
Hey, listen, y'all spread the love and listen.
I need the community to writeletters.
I don't need your money.
I need you to write me acharacter witness letter.
If you know who I am, don'tfall by the wayside.
Just help me look well.
I pray that you.
Chuck (19:31):
Thank you for using gtl wow, what an amazing
conversation today.
I want to thank timothy carrfor having this dialogue with me
today and for sharing his exitstrategy with the world upon his
release, and I also want tothank everyone for always tuning
in to let's just talk about apodcast.
And, hey, if you have any medianeeds, such as videography and
(19:54):
photography, you can reach outto me and my partner Low Mills
at M&B Media on Facebook.
So, as always, until next time,don't hold it in, but let's
just talk about it.
Talk to you soon, you.
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