December 24, 2025 • 56 mins
This is a follow up to the Family Tree Episode but this is the a response from Racheal, we walk through the emotional chain reaction: a furious mom confronting history, a best friend torn between fear and hope, and a man who cycled through relationships with a pattern of secrecy, paternity tests, and instability. Instead of gawking at the chaos, we map the lessons. Why vetting matters more than charisma. How loneliness nudges us to excuse obvious red flags. What it looks like to break the cycle—ending the relationship, apologizing, and choosing the people who’ve always had your back. And yes, we sit with the hard questions: Where do your non‑negotiables start? How do you co‑parent without turning a child into collateral? What does real accountability sound like beyond tears and promises?
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SPEAKER_00 (03:42):
How's everybody doing out there?
We'll get started here in aminute.
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How's everybody doing out there?
Everybody doing all right.
Y'all getting a real treattoday?
Usually don't wait to do thisshit until Saturday, really.
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Okay.
Hope everybody's doing goodtoday.
Back on this weekday work grind.
Shout out to everybody who'slistening on BuzzCast, Facebook,
wherever else listen to me from.
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So we have, as I said the otherday, uh the follow-up to The
Family Tree, more like a familytraffic jam.
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Part two.
Miss Um Rachel was that thing.
She's the one that wrote me.
I don't forgot the lady's name,y'all.
That's just bad.
In any event, she heard theshow.
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Some good, some bad, somewhatever.
But in any event, we're gonnaget right into it.
Because she's written me aresponse, and as I said, this
response was so long.
Hopefully, we'll be able to getthrough it.
Um, but for those of you guyswho don't know, this was a young
lady who was dating her mom'sex, and which I got a lot of not
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really flack from it, but a lotof people were saying that she
was wrong.
I think more people were on notreally my side because it's not
me, but they were on the side ofjust saying that I think it's
wrong to date your mom's ex, um,even though he knew her when she
was in high school, which I kindof thought was kind of
disgusting, but I don't know, itwas kind of disgusting to me
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because how can you knowsomebody uh from high school and
you dated her mother, but nowyou're dating the daughter, and
then the daughter's best friend,which is now pregnant by this
gentleman, also tried to hit onthe best friend's mother, if
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that makes any sense to what I'msaying.
So it's weird, it's all weird.
It's all bad.
In any event.
Uh let's get into it, shall we?
Let's not prolong this anylonger because it's quite a
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response.
Um I called the episode a WebAlice part two, but then again,
we're gonna have Family Treemore like a family traffic jam,
part two of this letter.
And this is the response, iswhat I've gotten.
So, without further ado, let'sgo ahead and read and get this
thing on.
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Icon.
Thank you for your response.
Though it wasn't what I wasexpecting, I guess I have some
growing up to do.
So I listened to the show,listened to some parts more than
once.
It definitely got me thinking.
I first want to say that I didtell my mom who I was dating,
and you were right, she waspissed.
Of course she would be.
Why wouldn't she be?
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I mean, you know, it's justcrazy, it's crazy work.
At first she thought I wasjoking, and then shit got real.
I mean, really quick.
I mean, I've never seen my momget so mad, not even at my
father, except when she foundout that he was gay and caught
him in the act.
Don't worry, it wasn't it wasn'tour home, but at a hotel in the
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next town over.
Jesus, did we even get this partin the last one?
I don't know.
But Icon.
We had a long chat about this,and though she explained how she
met him, as I explained before,the crazy thing is I met Ron
before while I was dating mymom, and even and he even lived
with us for a short period oftime.
My mom explained to me thatwhile I was in high school, I
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didn't really pay much attentionto him.
I didn't really pay muchattention to him, he didn't pay
much attention to me because Iwas on this face and I was in
high school.
My dad moved out just before Istarted high school.
So my mom shared with me thatthey must have dated while I was
in high school.
To be honest, Icon.
(10:00):
This was all avert of me becausefrankly, I didn't give a shit.
As most teenage daughterswouldn't.
I was trying to hang out withfriends, live my best life
during high school, and damn,did I?
Lol.
But she said she said she hiredRon when we was first starting
out, even though she he was acustodian or sanitation work at
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a dealership.
And I thought to myself thatthis is not Anna.
There's still a lot ofunanswered questions.
But I think my mom wanted toforget about him because of what
he did to her.
She said that he attended tocheat on her with Esther, my
best friend's mom.
Talk about a shitstorm.
This guy was clearly the worst.
But Esther didn't get down likethat.
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Because she truly valued my momand her friendship.
And they have a lot in common.
What do you think?
You see, my dad and my bestfriend were the ones that was
hooking up.
God damn, this sounds like awhole Jerry Springer show.
Like twinking, fudge patching,fudge packing, or playing.
You get it, Icon.
Yes, I get it.
I hope my viewers get it too.
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Um, but Esther stayed true to mymom's friendship.
And I know what you're gonnasay, Icon.
I already know, but I'm notfinished.
I'm not mad at my dad at thatmoment.
I was because my mom was verywas a very attractive woman.
And I thought, why would my dadturn gay and risk at all?
And boy, he did he luckily,luckily he had a good job.
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The divorce was so weird again.
I didn't understand any of it.
But I know my mom well and takeI know my mom.
But I know my mom is well takencare of, even though she also
works.
So when all this happened, mymom said after meeting Ron, she
too went to his home, poured herheart out.
Sound familiar?
Uh yeah, it does.
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But icon, get this.
He lived in an RV, which is alsothe place where he worked.
You know the rest.
Of course I do.
So I thought to myself that Ronwas truly an asshole, and I
really didn't want anything todo with him.
So my mom shared.
So my mom shared that for ashort time that he lived with us
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while he was still working as acustodian and a PI, but again, I
didn't really say much or payattention to him because maybe
that's how I found out hisbusiness card and later in later
time because it was like thingsin my junk door, I don't know.
But also made amends withAngela, and she told me how she
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and Ron met.
She met him at the doctor'soffice where she worked, and he
was there getting a DNA test foroh my god, get this for a
paternity test.
Jesus, this guy just really getsaround.
Talk about a Rolling Stone.
This guy was really, really theworst.
Uh, he was there getting a DNAtest for paternity for from the
courts and yes, Icon.
He came in looking like 100k,but turns out that he's
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definitely full of shit because,like literally full of shit.
He told Angela he was there tosee if he was a match to donate
a kidney to his nephew.
Of course, Angela thought thatthis was so sweet of him.
Um, from they went and hadcoffee and started talking.
Okay.
I'm not even going to get intothe specifics of the
conversation, but eventuallythey had sex, and she got
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pregnant, and this is howdisgusted I was with Ron.
When I I mean the nerve of thisflipping guy.
So when I asked her what did hesay to her when she told her mom
about Ron, whole icon, she saidher mom saw nothing but death
coming out of those eyes, andthat she would she truly wanted
to take Ron out.
Yeah, I get that.
I think at this point, she'swatching how she is watching
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that show, How to Get Away withMurder.
Yeah, I remember that show thatwas a good show.
I mean I don't want to cut a fewepisodes of it.
But Viola Davis plays in thatshow.
But anyways, give back to theletter.
But I think she was just about Ithink she was just about to play
I think she was just about toplay, but Ansha seemed like she
just thinks she wasn't wait,what?
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But I think she was just play,but Ansha seemed to think that
she wasn't.
So after her mom cooled down,she dealt with another fatal
blow by telling Ron that she waspregnant with Ron's baby.
And let's just say how to getaway with murder plot was just
back up and running.
I'm sure it was.
So her mom was pissed.
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Mom was so pissed she stayedmad.
Says her mom was so pissed thatshe stayed at my mom's house for
three to four weeks until hermom cooled down.
But she told me that her momwasn't mad at her, she was more
pissed off at Ron, which I canunderstand.
So after the dust settled, thenews of me being pregnant was
mildly contained.
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But wait, you or your bestfriend?
Okay, the news of her beingpregnant was mildly contained,
but then that's when Ron hadshowed back up in the town, and
because he was just there wasjust one thing that Angela
didn't tell her mom that she wasengaged to Ron.
So the hitches kept coming.
Miss Esther said, The hell withit, you're a grown-ass woman,
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live your life the way you seefit.
At this point, she told Angelathat Ron was not welcome in her
home, and that she needed to,and that he needed not to show
up because trespassers will beshot on site.
Yeah, I definitely understandthat.
But I knew Miss Esther, she wasnot playing.
Turns out she hunts for sportlike deer, waterfowl.
I don't know what the hell awaterfowl is, but whatever.
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Anything else that she couldhunt.
So she also so I think he tookit seriously because Miss Esther
is also a taxidermist.
Why would you want to datesomebody like that?
In any event, says a lot abouther.
So after I told her whathappened between told Angela
what happened between me andRon, and how how we met, she
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cried, I cried, as well as Iapologized to her for the high
school incident that was I waswrong, and I should have trusted
her more as my best friend.
More and but more and not lether boyfriend and not let that
negative bullshit get to me.
But I can't, it's my own fault.
I think it's what I what I seein my mom's and just started
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putting up barriers so that Isay thank you for the advice and
the harsh advice becausehonestly I needed it because
you're right, I didn't want tolisten to and I let my selfish
needs get in the way of myfamily, my best friend, who I'm
so glad to have back.
As for me and Ron, we had a talkthat led to an argument, and
then more arguing.
I think that I was just stupid.
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Well, I kinda was, yeah.
You kinda was.
Maybe it was me being hurt andblaming everyone but myself.
He told me that he has otherkids, that child support is
really killing him, and that hewas sorry.
But I'm fresh out of apologies.
I'm done with this shit, and Iwill do what you have, and I
will do what you advise me todo, and that's take care of my
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daughter, and let no man dictateto me what is right for me and
her.
So we spent the day most of theday arguing, then he starts to
cry as if that shit was going towork at all.
All I can do is think about mymom, my bestie, and how truly
this guy has issues.
He wanted me to stay with himbecause he said he needed me,
and that was the last time.
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But icon, I didn't want any partof this fucked up life.
Because knowing that he got mybestie pregnant is bad enough.
Because he doesn't really have astable income, and she is just
going to be another singlewoman, thanks to his old ass
deadbeat, no job, having assbaby daddy, and old ass baby
daddy.
Huh.
There's a lot of words there.
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So icon.
Know that this email isridiculous long, but please, I
need more advice, and my bestiewill also be listening to well.
Thank you, Icon.
So um so that was the letterfrom the follow-up show that we
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did.
Um family tree more like afamily traffic jam.
So this young lady was clearlyum she's clearly hurt by this
gentleman that obviously wantedto take.
I don't even know what the hellor what the hell is happening
because this guy clearly tookadvantage of a situation that
was clearly not right, and Ithink it was wrong.
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I think it was wrong because heknew this young lady when she
was in high school.
You dated her mother, and I'mtrying to figure out.
And this is the thing that thatkind of freaked me out when she
first found the file.
It's like he had this shitplanned.
It's like he wanted to umsomehow, I don't know, I don't
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can't really say stay in thegood graces because if you're
trying to stay with somebody,why would you want to move on to
their daughter?
I mean, help me understand this,make that make sense.
Why in God's name would you keepa file on um the woman that you
dated and knowing she had adaughter?
Now, I don't know if that's kindof some kind of sicked up,
fucked up fantasy that he had,but I think that's kind of
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disgusting.
I think it's very disgustingthat you would date your ex's
daughter, and you knew her shewas in high school.
So clearly there might be somekind of I don't know, sick kind
of fetish, or I don't even thinkit's a fetish, I think it's just
sick.
So, you know, I'm glad that Igot the follow-up on this letter
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because I'm pretty sure there'sgonna be more to come, but I
hope this finds wait, did shesay yeah, Rachel and Angela?
I think that's you know, themessed up thing is I don't I
forgot what this young lady'sname was.
I'm trying to find this younggirl's name.
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Uh Uh yeah, Rachel.
Okay, Miss Rachel.
Okay, Miss Rachel.
And her best friend's name wasAngela.
So, glad I got that right.
In any event, Miss Rachel, Ithink what you're doing is
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somewhat taking responsibilityfor your actions because you
know that if you were to pursuegoing down this road, it would
not end really well.
It would end very badly, andending very badly would be not
good because you have peoplethat care about you.
There should be no man thatshould come between your family
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and definitely the friend thatyou called a best friend for the
better part of your childhood.
I mean, come on.
I mean, you apologize to her,that's a start.
You went and told your mom shewas doubly pissed off.
I get it, I understand.
Because I couldn't do that to mykids.
That's like me dating one of myson's girlfriends, and I'm older
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than him.
I mean, I don't even see why youwould want to do some crazy shit
like that.
That's stupid, that'sdisgusting.
I mean, I'm not that desperate.
I mean, and you shouldn't bethat desperate neither.
If if things are not gonna workout with the one you love, I
mean, I get it.
So I get it, you know, infamily, and I think family is
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the hardest part, especiallywhen you're dealing with
somebody that you have dated,and you know, and then the other
and especially if there's well,let's just say sisters involved,
because I grew up with nothingbut women, and I had nothing but
women coming up, you know, mybrother getting until 93.
So, but my sisters never crossedeach other into dating their
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boyfriend's ex or or whatever,they never did that.
I mean, that that's just itwasn't so much of a rule, it was
just so much of respect foryourself, and when you have that
kind of respect for yourself,and then you have that kind of
mindset to say that I'm notgonna do that, then that makes
you a better person, even thoughthe men have tried, or the boys
have tried, uh not men, theywere boys, boys have tried to do
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that too, my sister, but theyweren't going for it, and that's
the kind of relationship youhave to have.
It doesn't matter if you are asingle child or an only child,
if you have a best friend thatyou consider what I thought that
I think you consider Mitch Ann'sjust to be a sister to you
because you don't really talkabout any other siblings.
So I think that if you have herand she is like a good person to
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you, and she's been there foryou throughout the better years
of high school, it sounds likeyou guys have been really close
sometime.
Don't let that kind of ruin whatyou have had with her because it
sounds like she was in themoment and telling you that this
incident happened in high schoolwith this boy who's now turned
gay, and you just should havetaken her at her word.
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But I think that what you'redoing is respectful.
I think what you're doing isadmirable, and I think that
you're showing some kind ofresponsibility for yourself, and
it's good to show responsibilityfor yourself because when you
show responsibility foryourself, then in life you know
what you want to do and what youdon't want to do.
I mean, let's be honest.
We all get lonely, we all don'twant to be alone, we always want
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somebody to be with, you know,because it's hard, it's hard
being alone, it's hard beingsingle, and in this world, you
feel like some people feel likethey don't have nothing to offer
anybody, but you do havesomething to offer somebody
because it doesn't matter, and Ithink that the the the the part
is about the hard thing aboutbeing lonely is that the first
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guy you come across thatgenuinely shows you some
interest, he might be okay, hemight be good.
Not saying he isn't, not sayinghe's not, but does he have your
best interest at heart?
I mean, let's be honest, thisguy was a PI for Christ's sake,
and he wasn't a very good one.
So he's got it sounds like he'sthe one that needs to be
investigated.
He's got like multiple kids.
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I mean, I'm pretty sure there'sgonna be another follow-up
letter after this.
I'm almost positive there'sgonna be a follow-up letter
after this, but um I think thatwhat you what you have done is
not only commendable, but like Isaid, getting back to being
lonely.
I know we don't want to be alonein life, and I know that there's
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somebody, there's there'ssomeone, there's someone for
everyone, if that makes anysense.
Because in life we don't want tobe alone, and I know that from
being alone in my experience, itdoes kind of hurt, it's kind of
salty because you see asrelationships, and you want that
to be your life.
Well, I want to get love theright way.
I don't want to be rushed intolove.
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And I think that when Mr.
Ron asked you to marry him andyou didn't know he was engaged
until you found out that he wasengaged to your best friend, he
broke that off to be with you.
I think you're making the rightcall.
I think you're putting your yourfeelings in check, your emotions
in check, and you're looking outfor those that's in your circle.
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Because let's be honest, Ron isnot in your circle.
I mean, he went through yourmother, and now he went through
your best friend, and now hewent through you.
The only good thing that cameout of this is that you're not
pregnant, and that's a goodthing.
I mean, it's just sad that thisman, one man, has did so much
damage to three women, threewomen that knew each other, and
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I know that he knew well, I knowthat he knew you, and I know at
some point, like you said, youguys might have been ten years,
so you guys probably weren'tpaying no attention.
I get that, but he might havebeen paying attention to you and
your friend.
I mean, clearly, yes, I know youguys are adults and you guys are
older, but to me, that's stillkind of sick.
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That's still kind of that'ssomething wrong, it's something
messed up.
I don't I don't think I couldever do that, but I think what
you have done and what you umcontinue to do is not only the
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right way to go, but it's a goodthing because now you got your
best friend back.
Now I hope that even though Idon't know what kind of father
Ron's gonna be, but I'm prettysure he's not gonna be the best
father because he's already gotkids out there.
I'm just so curious to know howmany kids he had because you
didn't really say that in theletter.
I mean, you said he was therefor paternity test.
I mean, this guy clearly knowshow to game women, and clearly I
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really actually want to see whathe looks like.
I mean, I want to see him looklike from my own essence.
I'm not gonna post him on socialmedia to be like, hey, this is
the guy, you know.
Y'all, when y'all see thiswomen, when you see this guy,
stay the hell away from him.
No, no, I'm not gonna do that tohim because that's he's uh he's
already doing it to himself.
I mean, listen, guys like thatdon't last long, and if he's
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going from trailer to office,this guy clearly is not a good
guy.
So I hope that and I know yousaid you you you let him go, you
broke up with him.
That's fine, that's good.
And I mean, but you can't saveeverybody, so I'm hoping your
paths don't ever cross again.
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But as far as your friend, MissAngela, and she's about to have
this this guy's baby.
I mean, that's kind of a hardpill to swallow because he's got
other kids, and you know how allthese other kids are.
I mean, this guy, I forgot howold this guy was.
Huh.
I met him in his 40 years old.
I met this man as 40 years old.
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So yeah.
Um I guess it says he's 40.
Going back to my notes, it saysthat he's forty.
So yeah, I gotta get some of mytea.
Yeah, I know I gotta drink mytea.
That red diamond.
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So hold on here.
But getting back to what I wassaying, it's just it's just bad
because you know, you're bothyoung.
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And you know, what I try to tellmy kids or my daughters, or you
know, don't let any man enticeyou doing anything that you want
to do.
Yeah, and I don't care what youlook like as a female, you
should have standards.
And I think the problem is withtoday's youth, is as I said
before, you guys rush tooquickly to jump into bed with
somebody.
I mean, that's just not me.
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That's not how we did it back inthe day.
Back in the day, we did it.
Again, we talked, you know, wewent out, we had fun, and then
maybe by the third or fourthdate, then you best believe we
was probably in there.
Yeah, real talk, yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
But you gotta understand, it'sit's mad crazy because I still
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think there's something wrongwith this guy.
I mean, granted, you guys areold enough women now.
You're older, I get it, but Idon't even know if he was
waiting for this opportunity.
I don't even know if your pathsare eventually meant to cross
because I don't believe in thatkind of fate.
I believe that's kind of sickbecause, like I said, he kept a
file on your mother, and youdidn't, I'm not sure.
I don't, you know, maybe no, Idon't think you you didn't even
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question about that.
But I would have questionedabout that.
I would have questioned aboutthat, his kids, and how he came
to know you, or how did he knowthat that that was your mother?
Because he he had to know, hehad to know, damn it.
He had to know.
Oh my god, he had to know.
But I think you deserve answers,and I think you should get the
answers that you need becauseyou said when you guys are
arguing, you're not telling mewhat you talked about, except
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that it was an argument thatensued.
So if you want to write me back,which I'm sure you will, you're
gonna tell me what thisargument's gonna be about
because I want to know, mylisteners want to know, and
maybe we can try to put someclosure to this.
Who knows?
You know, put some closure toit, try to get away from it.
But I know this is a chapterthat you don't want to revisit,
and I know it's a chapter thatyou want to get rid of and say,
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Well, I want to be done withthis, I want to move on.
Well, you have done that, youhave done that because I think
what you're starting tounderstand now is that you're
starting to realize is that thisguy did you dirty, he did your
mom dirty, and you come to findout about it, but you were
ultimately gonna stay with himuntil you told your mom, and
then she told you, but thatreally shouldn't have been the
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icing on the cake.
The icing on the cake shouldhave been the moment you he seen
that file, and that you shouldhave quickly said, Well, how do
you know this woman?
Or better yet, how the hell doyou know me?
Because it feels like it's likea mind game this guy's playing
with you guys.
Because if he met your friend,and this is what I understand, I
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get the fact that you know, youwomen are younger, and some
younger women want older men.
I get it, not a big deal, butthere has to be some kind of
level of maturity on your partas well as his part to say that
well, I don't think I can dothis, or I can't date you
because such and such, orbecause I knew you, I knew your
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I try to date your mother, but Idate end up dating your best
friend's mother.
There has to be some kind of youknow accountability for that.
There has to be, and if if thatwas me, I don't think I could do
that.
I don't know, it's not I don'tthink I don't I know I couldn't
do that because that'sdisgusting.
I mean, who the hell would dosomething like that?
That's crazy work.
That's that's disgusting.
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I don't know if any of mylisteners could ever do
something like that, but if youthink that I'm wrong and what
I'm saying, please chime inanytime.
I mean, I'm just saying this isjust my opinion, you know, my
opinion, because I havedaughters, and I wouldn't want
my daughters to go throughanything like that.
And I'm sure my listenerswouldn't want their kids going
through nothing like that.
I mean, this is shit you onlysee on TV, you know, like on the
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Jerry Springer show.
I don't know if y'all rememberthat show.
That show was way wild, like,whoa.
But I think at the end of theday, I think that you had a lot
of growing up to do.
You still have a lot of grown upto do.
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I mean, listen, I'm 47 years oldand I'm still learning life.
You know, I'm still trying toteach my kids the way of life,
and I'm still trying to teach mykids how to do what's right, and
even when they're being donewrong, I still want them to come
out okay.
I don't want them to go crazy ortry to kill somebody or try to
do some harm to themselves oranybody else because that's not
the way they need to do things.
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I mean, back in our day therewas used to be a thing called
civil breakups.
Now you got breakups all overTikTok, Facebook, IG, and Miss
Rachel, please don't do that.
Please don't.
You know, it's okay to talk tosomebody, but it's not okay to
kind of like and what I mean byput it out there like you know,
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broadcasting, you know, you endup in jail.
Well, he did this to me.
You know, it's like this onechick I seen on um there's this
video that I was scrollingthrough on TikTok, and this
chick was, I mean, she bashedthis guy's car and said he was a
cheater, and the guy was at therestaurant.
I don't know if you guys seenthat video, but he was in the
restaurant, he was just eating,he came out.
I he just had bought the car.
But the dude played it cool.
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He just sat there, let her dodamage to the car, and then he,
I mean, he did a follow-upvideo.
The girl went to the girl'shouse, chick said she was
pregnant, she tried to run.
I think the shit was hilarious.
I think she got some jail timefor that, but ultimately the
insurance paid his car paid forhis car to get you know fixed.
I mean, I probably would havejust called it a loss, but you
know, that's that's just me.
But you know, whatever.
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But in any event, when you whensomebody that hurt you, hurt
you, they didn't hurt you.
Well, let me put this in anotherway.
They may have hurt you, but youdon't need to two wrongs don't
make it right.
You don't you don't need to geteven with them.
The only way you can get evenwith them is by moving on, doing
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what's best for you, and whenthey see you in the future,
which nine times out of ten theywill, they'll see how good
you're doing, they'll see howbetter your life has gotten
since you left that problembehind.
Because eventually, if youignore the problem, the problem
will well, this this kind ofproblem will go away.
And this man was a problem, hewas a huge problem.
I've never seen one personinflict so much pain on a mother
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and a daughter, not once, nottwice, but three times.
Could have been fourth, but MissEsther's like, I ain't playing
it, I don't get down like that.
My loyalty too is to um her bestfriend.
And yes, I was gonna say thatyou could take a note from your
parents from your mother,because the crazy thing is, is
that oh my gosh, I don't seeeven how this this should even
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happen.
Your father and her father lefteach other and decided to shack
up.
How does that even happen?
What the hell?
I mean, I wasn't really gonnatalk about that, but I was kind
of intrigued by that.
That you told me that her fatherand then your father left, and
they were the ones like gettingit on in a hotel room.
Geez, that's a lot to unpack inthis story.
But I clearly don't want to knowabout that.
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My viewers may, but I don't.
But I don't really want to knowthat.
But oh goodness gracious.
Ooh, it's a lot to unpack inthis letter.
But you said that you weren'treally mad at your father.
That's good, but it kind ofstinged me.
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I'm trying to figure out how thehell that even happened.
That's weird, yo.
But I mean, you got us.
unknown (35:51):
I'm thinking of it.
SPEAKER_00 (35:52):
I don't know.
It's it's what it is.
But hey.
So I mean, listen, we all haveissues in life, right?
We all have problems.
Nobody is perfect, not even me.
I'm not perfect.
You know, I've done my share ofdirt.
Uh, I've done some things I'mnot too proud of, but as day
(36:13):
goes on, I still, you know, tryto evolve myself to make sure I
don't keep making thosemistakes.
I mean, I'm not a perfect man,even though in the eyes of some
people I am considered perfect,but I'm not, I don't claim to be
perfect.
I don't want to be perfect.
I just want to be me.
I mean, I think for the mostpart that people say I'm a good
person, and I am a good personon some parts or majority parts
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of my life.
There's just one part of my lifethat I struggle with, and that's
just are you still I can'treally say being alone, but just
the the the support of women andthe company of women.
I love women, but I love womennot enough to, you know, do
those kind of things to womenbecause that's not who I am.
I don't really want to hurtanybody, I don't, you know, but
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in my lifetime I have hurt a lotof people and I have apologized
for stuff like that, and I'vedone some things that I'm not
too proud of, but I try to atonefor that, you know.
No male is perfect, norelationship is perfect, nothing
is perfect, everything is hard.
Loving someone is hard work.
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So I think that what I'm tryingto say is that is that I think
that we are only human.
And though I don't think that Ithink being alone does suck
(37:42):
because I I still miss thecompanionship of a woman, but
I'm not gonna go out here andtry to do what Mr.
Ron did because even though mykids have friends, I'm not that
kind of guy.
That's just kind of sick to me.
You know, I don't date a certaina woman over under a certain
age.
I mean, 25, huh, maybe, but youknow, I don't dip, I don't dip
(38:08):
too too low because let's faceit, when you're fresh out of
high school and you're justcoming out of high school, you
don't really know how tonavigate the world.
I mean, you may think that therelationship that you want now,
that you have now, this is whatyou want in the future, but
let's be honest.
When I started dating my wife,we were in high school, and we
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were like high schoolsweethearts.
Well, back then we didn't knowthe world was gonna turn out the
way it turned out.
Would I have gone a differentway?
No, I wouldn't.
I still would be married to mywife.
God rest her soul, she wasalive, but I would still go the
same way that I'm going today.
I mean, she gave me sixbeautiful kids, but as I said
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before, no one knew the worldwas gonna turn out, no one knew
that social media was gonna blowup.
And you young people today haveso much, like, oh my god, it's
like you have so much that youwant to do, but you guys do it
all the wrong freaking way.
You have you get on socialmedia, you post about this, you
post about that, you know, postabout he's a cheater and this,
(39:09):
that, and the other.
Who the hell cares?
I don't even look at shit likethat.
I mean, listen, I appreciate theletters because I want to try to
help you, Miss Rachel and MissAngela, to become better women.
I mean, I don't look for norecognition off this, I just try
to give out good advice, and theadvice that I give is somewhat
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some experience that I follow,or some experience that I've
seen that my sisters havefollowed.
And I have a lot of sisters, andI try to tell them to do what's
right, and as you get older, youstart to get wiser, you start to
think about things, and youstart trying to figure out how
to live your life the best waythat you possibly can.
Because let's face it, I don'tthink waking up arguing with
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somebody that you want to fightwith every single damn day is
just the key to everything.
It's not, it really isn't.
Jesus Lord.
I mean, at some point, you gottaget tired.
Of fighting the same personevery day and you're arguing
about nothing, that doesn't makeany sense.
That doesn't make any sense.
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Y'all probably hear my damn catgoing crazy.
So as I said, you young peopletoday can take a lot of notes
from your parents or whoever.
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I would challenge you, MissRachel, to continue to work with
your mother.
Continue to love your mother,continue to honor your mother,
and your father, even thoughhe's gay and he's with your best
friend's dad.
But kind of a family affair?
I don't really know.
I mean, at least you know whohe's doing.
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That's crazy.
This is wild.
I want to know more about thisfather and how they hooked up.
Maybe he'll write the show.
I don't know.
I don't think he will, though,because I don't think he's gonna
listen to this.
But I'm just trying to figureout how that all came about.
I mean, excuse me, that's not mycup of tea.
It's really not, but hey, it iswhat it is.
So, Miss Rachel, Miss Angela,the sun is going to shine on you
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both again.
Just have patience and justunderstand that life is what you
make of it.
You know, you're not gonna bealone forever.
But getting yourselves together,I think Miss Rachel, since you
have your best friend back, kindof be a support system for her.
You know, she's about to have ababy by a no-good dude that
basically is doing her wrong.
(41:43):
Clearly, they're not gettingmarried, and you're not getting
married to them, so that's agood thing.
Um, depending on where he works,or even if you want to pursue
that child support, I don'tknow, because it sounds like you
don't want to do it, and shedamn doesn't want to do it, and
Miss Esther damn sure doesn'twant to do it.
All she probably was doing issee his ass six feet under, and
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I'm not condoning no kind ofviolence, but I can imagine Miss
Esther's pain, but you are agrown woman, and this is what we
call in life we make mistakes.
I'm not saying your child is amistake, I'm just saying what
you did was probably kind of amistake.
I don't know.
That's the thing.
I don't know what these men cansay to younger women that would
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just automatically get them inbed.
I mean, clearly, if this guycame in looking like 100k,
clearly you want to investigatemore to try to see what he was
about.
You know, don't just oh man, Idon't get it.
I don't, you know, I don'tpretend to be something,
somebody that I'm not.
I just pretend to be me.
Because being me is the mosteasiest.
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And the easiest thing is justbeing yourself.
But I don't even think you gotyourself time to know this guy.
And then this guy proposed toyou, Miss Angela, and you said
yes.
He said you said yes, but thenhe moved, he moved to a whole
nother state, and I wonder whythat is.
I mean, clearly your mom mighthave had some kind of influence
(43:06):
on that, which I probably thinkshe might share in that, but
hey, it is what it is.
So I think there's gonna be alot of growing pains, there's
gonna be a lot of frustration,there's gonna be a lot of um,
there's gonna be a lot ofheartache, especially when this
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child gets here.
Because then when the child getshere, you're gonna be more
pissed off.
Not with your child, but you'regonna be pissed off because um
because he's not gonna be there.
So I think that I think you needa huge support tonight.
(43:53):
And I'm pretty sure you have it.
I think your mom, like you said,I don't think your mom's really
mad at you.
I think she was just mad at thesituation that Ron has put her
child through.
And yes, you're a grown woman,but still, if this man tried to
get with Miss Esther, knowingthat he was dating your best
friend's mother, clearly MissEsther has all the knowledge and
(44:14):
wisdom that you're ever gonnaneed because she's your mother,
and your mother and your motherknows better.
I mean, it sounds like you guysgot a good upbringing, it sounds
like everything is going good inyour life, just this one speed
bump or this one roadkill on theroad that you guys seen to run
over that imaginary reappearedand reincarnated himself into uh
disgusting human of a man, buthey, whatever.
(44:34):
I don't know, I don't reallyknow, Mr.
Ron, but if you want to playthis back for him, maybe you
might want to listen to the showor whatever.
Maybe you might want he mighteven want to write me.
Maybe will, maybe he won't.
I don't know.
Not trying to make this toofamily affair, but because we
got other shit we gotta do hereon the show, but hey, it is what
it is.
So I'm gonna say this inclosing.
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I think that what you did wasright.
I think that you shouldn't stopthere.
I think that you should continueto support each other because it
seems like the support is there.
Don't let anybody come betweenyou, your family, and your
friends.
Never let another man tear whatyou built apart.
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Don't let him tear it down.
The next time you two decide todate somebody, maybe vet this
person.
Go through this person with afine-toothed comb.
Just because you look like 100kdoesn't mean you actually have a
hundred K.
Don't let none of that shit foolyou.
Women that I know are some ofthe best detectives ever because
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they can get to anything andunderstand with anybody, and
they can get the answer thatthey need.
So, Miss Rachel, Miss Angela, Ihope this podcast finds you
well.
I really do.
And I really wish you both thebest, especially you, Miss
Angela, because you're about tohave this man's baby, and I'm
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not saying you'll do anythingcrazy or anything wrong because
it sounds like that you have agood support system, you have a
good family-based supportsystem, and you have a best
friend who was like your sister,who really cares about you.
And I think that if you havethat, then continue to go with
that.
I think that when you when youhave what you have, you don't
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want to let that go.
And that goes for you too, MissRachel.
Because as I said, it's hardenough as it is that she's gonna
be alone.
I mean, not alone as in thesupport system, but as alone and
raising this child because thischild may or may not have a
father, and that's sad, that'sreally sad.
But this is the life of the handthat you've been dealt.
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So, but what I would challengeyou both is to just continue to
be in each other's lives,continue to support one another,
continue to grow with oneanother, continue to help each
other out because Rachel, youalready have a child.
Thank God you're not pregnantwith Ron's child, but you have a
uh baby daddy or your child'sfather, not sure what's going on
with him, but I'm hopefully thatyou have worked it out amicably
(47:14):
with him, and that you guys cancontinue to raise your child and
support your child asco-parenting without the
arguing, without the vicaring,without the fighting, just
peaceful co-parenting.
So, you know, as hard as it wasto you know understand your
letter.
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I mean, I get it, but I've neverbeen through the shit that you
went through in this letter.
I mean, that's kind of a lot totake in.
But I think that as time goeson, I don't know if you'll even
let Mr.
Ron back in this life in yourchild's life.
I mean, if you do, don't fallfor the Okie doke.
(47:56):
Don't fall for him saying, Well,you know, and if he's buying you
gifts or whatever, tell him no,buy his kids gifts.
I mean, if he wants to get youflowers or whatever, uh, that's
that's probably a stretch to me,but whatever.
Because the crazy thing is, hesaid some of the most cornyest
shit in that that actuallyworked for some of you guys.
That didn't work for me.
I mean, well, I can't really sayit didn't work for me because
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I'm not gay, but don't fall foranything, you know.
Stay vigilant, stay diligent,and stay understanding that this
is a life that he's created foryou.
What are you gonna do with it?
Are you gonna choose to go backto him because he's feeling some
type of way?
I don't give a man this man, Idon't give a shit.
This man is homeless.
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He's got other kids.
So, how do you know it's notother women out there?
How do you know?
You don't know.
So I think that it's gonna beokay.
(48:58):
I really do.
I think there are brighter daysahead for both of you guys.
I think everything's gonna beokay.
So, as we get ready to close theshow out today, I want to say
thank you to my listeners, thankyou for my supporters, as I keep
thanking you on every podcastbecause I'm gonna keep doing it.
Thank you for the downloads ofthe show.
(49:19):
I appreciate you guys.
Keep the letters coming, um,keep the questions rolling.
As I said, in coming weeks, I'mgonna have a new co-host with
me.
She's gonna rock it out with me.
She's gonna try to brightenthings up, or maybe she's kind
of like the the bad side of me.
(49:40):
No, just joking.
She's the I'm the good person,she's the bad person.
Not really that kind of way, butshe keeps it more real than me.
I'm a Capricorn, she's aCapricorn.
Um, she goes by the name Queen,so it's gonna be Icon and Queen,
and I hope to have her here inthe coming weeks.
Now she does giveaways onFacebook.
(50:01):
As I said before, I will put thelinks to my socials in my
podcast.
She's doing giveaways.
I'm also gonna do giveaways onFacebook, but the Facebook
giveaways are gonna be for as ofright now my Filipino listeners
and my Filipino friends.
So you can follow me on anysocial medias: Facebook, TikTok,
(50:26):
IG, all three pages of my IG.
No, I'm just joking.
You can follow whatever, but shedoes giveaways as well.
Like, I think this giveaway thatshe's doing is something towards
the airline or air tickets orwhatever, but she does
giveaways.
Um, I'm going a different waywith my giveaways because I um
(50:47):
am so in tune with the people ofthe Philippines that I want to
do something with them because Ido have some Philippine
supporters that listen to myshow as well, and I want to say
I appreciate you guys forlistening to the show.
So, but she's gonna do peopleover here in America, I'm gonna
do people in the Philippines,and we're just gonna have fun
with it, we're just gonna rockout with it.
(51:07):
So, as I said before, myfollow-up show is gonna be
coming up, um, working on thatas well.
Um, this is a real treat becauseI usually don't do podcasts on
Monday, I only do them onSaturdays or over the weekends.
But if you're hearing it, ifyou're looking at me live on
BuzzCast and Facebook, then youknow you're getting an exclusive
(51:28):
sneak peek into the podcastbecause everybody else, if
you're not listening now, thenit's gonna come out on
Wednesday.
So episodes are going to try tobe released every Wednesday.
Sometimes I don't always get itright, but I'm working on it,
you know.
I got so much shit I'm workingon.
You know, it's hard being afather, it's hard being a single
father.
(51:50):
Nah, but it's all good though.
You know, I love being a father,I love being a parent, and
though sometimes only justloneliness doesn't try to get to
you, but I know what I havehere, and I know I don't want
nobody to take that away fromme.
So, as I said to you before,Miss Angela, Miss Rachel, I
think you guys are on thecorrect path.
(52:10):
You guys are on a good path.
So stay true to each other.
Um, stay humble, stay diligentin choosing your next suitor.
Because keep in mind, justbecause you choose somebody
doesn't mean they're gonna bethe father that you want them to
be.
(52:30):
Because I know that's what Mr.
Ron said to you, Miss Rachel, isthat he could be your child's
father and be the father thatshe's never had.
Well, he can't even be a father,so I'm not gonna get off topic,
I'm not gonna get off subject,because it's time for me to
close the show out, but let'sjust say that you got to choose
your frogs carefully because notevery frog you can kiss is gonna
(52:53):
turn into a prince, some arejust toads, real talk, uh yes.
So, I am also still working onmy streaming, which I should be
(53:15):
across all platforms here in thenext coming weeks.
So I just won't only be onBuzzCast, but I'll be on Twitch,
I'll be on YouTube, I'll be onTikTok, I'll be on Facebook, and
I'll be streaming all from onelocation because right now I'm
trying to stream on Facebook andBuzzcast, but the people in
Buzzcast can hear the musicplaying in the background, ada
(53:38):
yada yada woo-ty-woo, but mypeople in Facebook can't really
hear anything, which is what I'mspeaking, which is on
microphone.
So, you guys have been amazing,you guys are awesome.
Thank you for the likes, thankyou for the share.
Uh, if you want to follow mypage, so you can also get in on
the giveaways.
I am icon on Facebook.
(54:00):
Follow my page, know what thegiveaway is for, but this week's
giveaway is going to be forJolly B.
Uh, two families will get athousand dollar e-gift card for
Jolly B if they can tell metheir favorite podcast and why
about me, it's all about me, me,me, me.
I'm kidding, I'm joking.
(54:22):
So, alright, well, we're gonnaget ready to wrap this thing up
here because uh unfortunately Ihave to go to work tomorrow.
No, it's all good though, but Iwant to say thank you guys for
listening to the show.
I am icon.
The show is called Let's TalkAbout It.
Any questions, concerns,complaints, letters, d6mpire357
(54:47):
at gmail.com.
I hope to get some interactiongoing on one of these shows.
I mean, I got a lot oflisteners, but nobody's giving
me no feedback.
Come on, guys, chime in.
Tell me what you think.
But it's all good though.
I appreciate you guys listening.
I appreciate you guys tuninginto the show.
So until next time, y'all takecare of yourself and each other.
(55:08):
For now, y'all can just grooveout with this.
I can see the harbor by majortweaks.
So, y'all have a good one.
How's everybody doing out there?
We'll get started here in aminute.
(05:08):
How's everybody doing out there?
Everybody doing all right.
Y'all getting a real treattoday?
Usually don't wait to do thisshit until Saturday, really.
(05:37):
Okay.
Hope everybody's doing goodtoday.
Back on this weekday work grind.
Shout out to everybody who'slistening on BuzzCast, Facebook,
wherever else listen to me from.
(05:57):
So we have, as I said the otherday, uh the follow-up to The
Family Tree, more like a familytraffic jam.
(06:18):
Part two.
Miss Um Rachel was that thing.
She's the one that wrote me.
I don't forgot the lady's name,y'all.
That's just bad.
In any event, she heard theshow.
(06:38):
Some good, some bad, somewhatever.
But in any event, we're gonnaget right into it.
Because she's written me aresponse, and as I said, this
response was so long.
Hopefully, we'll be able to getthrough it.
Um, but for those of you guyswho don't know, this was a young
lady who was dating her mom'sex, and which I got a lot of not
(07:04):
really flack from it, but a lotof people were saying that she
was wrong.
I think more people were on notreally my side because it's not
me, but they were on the side ofjust saying that I think it's
wrong to date your mom's ex, um,even though he knew her when she
was in high school, which I kindof thought was kind of
disgusting, but I don't know, itwas kind of disgusting to me
(07:27):
because how can you knowsomebody uh from high school and
you dated her mother, but nowyou're dating the daughter, and
then the daughter's best friend,which is now pregnant by this
gentleman, also tried to hit onthe best friend's mother, if
(07:53):
that makes any sense to what I'msaying.
So it's weird, it's all weird.
It's all bad.
In any event.
Uh let's get into it, shall we?
Let's not prolong this anylonger because it's quite a
(08:14):
response.
Um I called the episode a WebAlice part two, but then again,
we're gonna have Family Treemore like a family traffic jam,
part two of this letter.
And this is the response, iswhat I've gotten.
So, without further ado, let'sgo ahead and read and get this
thing on.
(08:35):
Icon.
Thank you for your response.
Though it wasn't what I wasexpecting, I guess I have some
growing up to do.
So I listened to the show,listened to some parts more than
once.
It definitely got me thinking.
I first want to say that I didtell my mom who I was dating,
and you were right, she waspissed.
Of course she would be.
Why wouldn't she be?
(08:55):
I mean, you know, it's justcrazy, it's crazy work.
At first she thought I wasjoking, and then shit got real.
I mean, really quick.
I mean, I've never seen my momget so mad, not even at my
father, except when she foundout that he was gay and caught
him in the act.
Don't worry, it wasn't it wasn'tour home, but at a hotel in the
(09:16):
next town over.
Jesus, did we even get this partin the last one?
I don't know.
But Icon.
We had a long chat about this,and though she explained how she
met him, as I explained before,the crazy thing is I met Ron
before while I was dating mymom, and even and he even lived
with us for a short period oftime.
My mom explained to me thatwhile I was in high school, I
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didn't really pay much attentionto him.
I didn't really pay muchattention to him, he didn't pay
much attention to me because Iwas on this face and I was in
high school.
My dad moved out just before Istarted high school.
So my mom shared with me thatthey must have dated while I was
in high school.
To be honest, Icon.
(10:00):
This was all avert of me becausefrankly, I didn't give a shit.
As most teenage daughterswouldn't.
I was trying to hang out withfriends, live my best life
during high school, and damn,did I?
Lol.
But she said she said she hiredRon when we was first starting
out, even though she he was acustodian or sanitation work at
(10:22):
a dealership.
And I thought to myself thatthis is not Anna.
There's still a lot ofunanswered questions.
But I think my mom wanted toforget about him because of what
he did to her.
She said that he attended tocheat on her with Esther, my
best friend's mom.
Talk about a shitstorm.
This guy was clearly the worst.
But Esther didn't get down likethat.
(10:44):
Because she truly valued my momand her friendship.
And they have a lot in common.
What do you think?
You see, my dad and my bestfriend were the ones that was
hooking up.
God damn, this sounds like awhole Jerry Springer show.
Like twinking, fudge patching,fudge packing, or playing.
You get it, Icon.
Yes, I get it.
I hope my viewers get it too.
(11:05):
Um, but Esther stayed true to mymom's friendship.
And I know what you're gonnasay, Icon.
I already know, but I'm notfinished.
I'm not mad at my dad at thatmoment.
I was because my mom was verywas a very attractive woman.
And I thought, why would my dadturn gay and risk at all?
And boy, he did he luckily,luckily he had a good job.
(11:30):
The divorce was so weird again.
I didn't understand any of it.
But I know my mom well and takeI know my mom.
But I know my mom is well takencare of, even though she also
works.
So when all this happened, mymom said after meeting Ron, she
too went to his home, poured herheart out.
Sound familiar?
Uh yeah, it does.
(11:50):
But icon, get this.
He lived in an RV, which is alsothe place where he worked.
You know the rest.
Of course I do.
So I thought to myself that Ronwas truly an asshole, and I
really didn't want anything todo with him.
So my mom shared.
So my mom shared that for ashort time that he lived with us
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while he was still working as acustodian and a PI, but again, I
didn't really say much or payattention to him because maybe
that's how I found out hisbusiness card and later in later
time because it was like thingsin my junk door, I don't know.
But also made amends withAngela, and she told me how she
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and Ron met.
She met him at the doctor'soffice where she worked, and he
was there getting a DNA test foroh my god, get this for a
paternity test.
Jesus, this guy just really getsaround.
Talk about a Rolling Stone.
This guy was really, really theworst.
Uh, he was there getting a DNAtest for paternity for from the
courts and yes, Icon.
He came in looking like 100k,but turns out that he's
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definitely full of shit because,like literally full of shit.
He told Angela he was there tosee if he was a match to donate
a kidney to his nephew.
Of course, Angela thought thatthis was so sweet of him.
Um, from they went and hadcoffee and started talking.
Okay.
I'm not even going to get intothe specifics of the
conversation, but eventuallythey had sex, and she got
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pregnant, and this is howdisgusted I was with Ron.
When I I mean the nerve of thisflipping guy.
So when I asked her what did hesay to her when she told her mom
about Ron, whole icon, she saidher mom saw nothing but death
coming out of those eyes, andthat she would she truly wanted
to take Ron out.
Yeah, I get that.
I think at this point, she'swatching how she is watching
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that show, How to Get Away withMurder.
Yeah, I remember that show thatwas a good show.
I mean I don't want to cut a fewepisodes of it.
But Viola Davis plays in thatshow.
But anyways, give back to theletter.
But I think she was just about Ithink she was just about to play
I think she was just about toplay, but Ansha seemed like she
just thinks she wasn't wait,what?
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But I think she was just play,but Ansha seemed to think that
she wasn't.
So after her mom cooled down,she dealt with another fatal
blow by telling Ron that she waspregnant with Ron's baby.
And let's just say how to getaway with murder plot was just
back up and running.
I'm sure it was.
So her mom was pissed.
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Mom was so pissed she stayedmad.
Says her mom was so pissed thatshe stayed at my mom's house for
three to four weeks until hermom cooled down.
But she told me that her momwasn't mad at her, she was more
pissed off at Ron, which I canunderstand.
So after the dust settled, thenews of me being pregnant was
mildly contained.
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But wait, you or your bestfriend?
Okay, the news of her beingpregnant was mildly contained,
but then that's when Ron hadshowed back up in the town, and
because he was just there wasjust one thing that Angela
didn't tell her mom that she wasengaged to Ron.
So the hitches kept coming.
Miss Esther said, The hell withit, you're a grown-ass woman,
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live your life the way you seefit.
At this point, she told Angelathat Ron was not welcome in her
home, and that she needed to,and that he needed not to show
up because trespassers will beshot on site.
Yeah, I definitely understandthat.
But I knew Miss Esther, she wasnot playing.
Turns out she hunts for sportlike deer, waterfowl.
I don't know what the hell awaterfowl is, but whatever.
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Anything else that she couldhunt.
So she also so I think he tookit seriously because Miss Esther
is also a taxidermist.
Why would you want to datesomebody like that?
In any event, says a lot abouther.
So after I told her whathappened between told Angela
what happened between me andRon, and how how we met, she
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cried, I cried, as well as Iapologized to her for the high
school incident that was I waswrong, and I should have trusted
her more as my best friend.
More and but more and not lether boyfriend and not let that
negative bullshit get to me.
But I can't, it's my own fault.
I think it's what I what I seein my mom's and just started
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putting up barriers so that Isay thank you for the advice and
the harsh advice becausehonestly I needed it because
you're right, I didn't want tolisten to and I let my selfish
needs get in the way of myfamily, my best friend, who I'm
so glad to have back.
As for me and Ron, we had a talkthat led to an argument, and
then more arguing.
I think that I was just stupid.
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Well, I kinda was, yeah.
You kinda was.
Maybe it was me being hurt andblaming everyone but myself.
He told me that he has otherkids, that child support is
really killing him, and that hewas sorry.
But I'm fresh out of apologies.
I'm done with this shit, and Iwill do what you have, and I
will do what you advise me todo, and that's take care of my
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daughter, and let no man dictateto me what is right for me and
her.
So we spent the day most of theday arguing, then he starts to
cry as if that shit was going towork at all.
All I can do is think about mymom, my bestie, and how truly
this guy has issues.
He wanted me to stay with himbecause he said he needed me,
and that was the last time.
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But icon, I didn't want any partof this fucked up life.
Because knowing that he got mybestie pregnant is bad enough.
Because he doesn't really have astable income, and she is just
going to be another singlewoman, thanks to his old ass
deadbeat, no job, having assbaby daddy, and old ass baby
daddy.
Huh.
There's a lot of words there.
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So icon.
Know that this email isridiculous long, but please, I
need more advice, and my bestiewill also be listening to well.
Thank you, Icon.
So um so that was the letterfrom the follow-up show that we
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did.
Um family tree more like afamily traffic jam.
So this young lady was clearlyum she's clearly hurt by this
gentleman that obviously wantedto take.
I don't even know what the hellor what the hell is happening
because this guy clearly tookadvantage of a situation that
was clearly not right, and Ithink it was wrong.
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I think it was wrong because heknew this young lady when she
was in high school.
You dated her mother, and I'mtrying to figure out.
And this is the thing that thatkind of freaked me out when she
first found the file.
It's like he had this shitplanned.
It's like he wanted to umsomehow, I don't know, I don't
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can't really say stay in thegood graces because if you're
trying to stay with somebody,why would you want to move on to
their daughter?
I mean, help me understand this,make that make sense.
Why in God's name would you keepa file on um the woman that you
dated and knowing she had adaughter?
Now, I don't know if that's kindof some kind of sicked up,
fucked up fantasy that he had,but I think that's kind of
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disgusting.
I think it's very disgustingthat you would date your ex's
daughter, and you knew her shewas in high school.
So clearly there might be somekind of I don't know, sick kind
of fetish, or I don't even thinkit's a fetish, I think it's just
sick.
So, you know, I'm glad that Igot the follow-up on this letter
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because I'm pretty sure there'sgonna be more to come, but I
hope this finds wait, did shesay yeah, Rachel and Angela?
I think that's you know, themessed up thing is I don't I
forgot what this young lady'sname was.
I'm trying to find this younggirl's name.
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Uh Uh yeah, Rachel.
Okay, Miss Rachel.
Okay, Miss Rachel.
And her best friend's name wasAngela.
So, glad I got that right.
In any event, Miss Rachel, Ithink what you're doing is
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somewhat taking responsibilityfor your actions because you
know that if you were to pursuegoing down this road, it would
not end really well.
It would end very badly, andending very badly would be not
good because you have peoplethat care about you.
There should be no man thatshould come between your family
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and definitely the friend thatyou called a best friend for the
better part of your childhood.
I mean, come on.
I mean, you apologize to her,that's a start.
You went and told your mom shewas doubly pissed off.
I get it, I understand.
Because I couldn't do that to mykids.
That's like me dating one of myson's girlfriends, and I'm older
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than him.
I mean, I don't even see why youwould want to do some crazy shit
like that.
That's stupid, that'sdisgusting.
I mean, I'm not that desperate.
I mean, and you shouldn't bethat desperate neither.
If if things are not gonna workout with the one you love, I
mean, I get it.
So I get it, you know, infamily, and I think family is
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the hardest part, especiallywhen you're dealing with
somebody that you have dated,and you know, and then the other
and especially if there's well,let's just say sisters involved,
because I grew up with nothingbut women, and I had nothing but
women coming up, you know, mybrother getting until 93.
So, but my sisters never crossedeach other into dating their
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boyfriend's ex or or whatever,they never did that.
I mean, that that's just itwasn't so much of a rule, it was
just so much of respect foryourself, and when you have that
kind of respect for yourself,and then you have that kind of
mindset to say that I'm notgonna do that, then that makes
you a better person, even thoughthe men have tried, or the boys
have tried, uh not men, theywere boys, boys have tried to do
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that too, my sister, but theyweren't going for it, and that's
the kind of relationship youhave to have.
It doesn't matter if you are asingle child or an only child,
if you have a best friend thatyou consider what I thought that
I think you consider Mitch Ann'sjust to be a sister to you
because you don't really talkabout any other siblings.
So I think that if you have herand she is like a good person to
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you, and she's been there foryou throughout the better years
of high school, it sounds likeyou guys have been really close
sometime.
Don't let that kind of ruin whatyou have had with her because it
sounds like she was in themoment and telling you that this
incident happened in high schoolwith this boy who's now turned
gay, and you just should havetaken her at her word.
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But I think that what you'redoing is respectful.
I think what you're doing isadmirable, and I think that
you're showing some kind ofresponsibility for yourself, and
it's good to show responsibilityfor yourself because when you
show responsibility foryourself, then in life you know
what you want to do and what youdon't want to do.
I mean, let's be honest.
We all get lonely, we all don'twant to be alone, we always want
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somebody to be with, you know,because it's hard, it's hard
being alone, it's hard beingsingle, and in this world, you
feel like some people feel likethey don't have nothing to offer
anybody, but you do havesomething to offer somebody
because it doesn't matter, and Ithink that the the the the part
is about the hard thing aboutbeing lonely is that the first
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guy you come across thatgenuinely shows you some
interest, he might be okay, hemight be good.
Not saying he isn't, not sayinghe's not, but does he have your
best interest at heart?
I mean, let's be honest, thisguy was a PI for Christ's sake,
and he wasn't a very good one.
So he's got it sounds like he'sthe one that needs to be
investigated.
He's got like multiple kids.
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I mean, I'm pretty sure there'sgonna be another follow-up
letter after this.
I'm almost positive there'sgonna be a follow-up letter
after this, but um I think thatwhat you what you have done is
not only commendable, but like Isaid, getting back to being
lonely.
I know we don't want to be alonein life, and I know that there's
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somebody, there's there'ssomeone, there's someone for
everyone, if that makes anysense.
Because in life we don't want tobe alone, and I know that from
being alone in my experience, itdoes kind of hurt, it's kind of
salty because you see asrelationships, and you want that
to be your life.
Well, I want to get love theright way.
I don't want to be rushed intolove.
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And I think that when Mr.
Ron asked you to marry him andyou didn't know he was engaged
until you found out that he wasengaged to your best friend, he
broke that off to be with you.
I think you're making the rightcall.
I think you're putting your yourfeelings in check, your emotions
in check, and you're looking outfor those that's in your circle.
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Because let's be honest, Ron isnot in your circle.
I mean, he went through yourmother, and now he went through
your best friend, and now hewent through you.
The only good thing that cameout of this is that you're not
pregnant, and that's a goodthing.
I mean, it's just sad that thisman, one man, has did so much
damage to three women, threewomen that knew each other, and
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I know that he knew well, I knowthat he knew you, and I know at
some point, like you said, youguys might have been ten years,
so you guys probably weren'tpaying no attention.
I get that, but he might havebeen paying attention to you and
your friend.
I mean, clearly, yes, I know youguys are adults and you guys are
older, but to me, that's stillkind of sick.
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That's still kind of that'ssomething wrong, it's something
messed up.
I don't I don't think I couldever do that, but I think what
you have done and what you umcontinue to do is not only the
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right way to go, but it's a goodthing because now you got your
best friend back.
Now I hope that even though Idon't know what kind of father
Ron's gonna be, but I'm prettysure he's not gonna be the best
father because he's already gotkids out there.
I'm just so curious to know howmany kids he had because you
didn't really say that in theletter.
I mean, you said he was therefor paternity test.
I mean, this guy clearly knowshow to game women, and clearly I
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really actually want to see whathe looks like.
I mean, I want to see him looklike from my own essence.
I'm not gonna post him on socialmedia to be like, hey, this is
the guy, you know.
Y'all, when y'all see thiswomen, when you see this guy,
stay the hell away from him.
No, no, I'm not gonna do that tohim because that's he's uh he's
already doing it to himself.
I mean, listen, guys like thatdon't last long, and if he's
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going from trailer to office,this guy clearly is not a good
guy.
So I hope that and I know yousaid you you you let him go, you
broke up with him.
That's fine, that's good.
And I mean, but you can't saveeverybody, so I'm hoping your
paths don't ever cross again.
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But as far as your friend, MissAngela, and she's about to have
this this guy's baby.
I mean, that's kind of a hardpill to swallow because he's got
other kids, and you know how allthese other kids are.
I mean, this guy, I forgot howold this guy was.
Huh.
I met him in his 40 years old.
I met this man as 40 years old.
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So yeah.
Um I guess it says he's 40.
Going back to my notes, it saysthat he's forty.
So yeah, I gotta get some of mytea.
Yeah, I know I gotta drink mytea.
That red diamond.
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So hold on here.
But getting back to what I wassaying, it's just it's just bad
because you know, you're bothyoung.
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And you know, what I try to tellmy kids or my daughters, or you
know, don't let any man enticeyou doing anything that you want
to do.
Yeah, and I don't care what youlook like as a female, you
should have standards.
And I think the problem is withtoday's youth, is as I said
before, you guys rush tooquickly to jump into bed with
somebody.
I mean, that's just not me.
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That's not how we did it back inthe day.
Back in the day, we did it.
Again, we talked, you know, wewent out, we had fun, and then
maybe by the third or fourthdate, then you best believe we
was probably in there.
Yeah, real talk, yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
But you gotta understand, it'sit's mad crazy because I still
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think there's something wrongwith this guy.
I mean, granted, you guys areold enough women now.
You're older, I get it, but Idon't even know if he was
waiting for this opportunity.
I don't even know if your pathsare eventually meant to cross
because I don't believe in thatkind of fate.
I believe that's kind of sickbecause, like I said, he kept a
file on your mother, and youdidn't, I'm not sure.
I don't, you know, maybe no, Idon't think you you didn't even
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question about that.
But I would have questionedabout that.
I would have questioned aboutthat, his kids, and how he came
to know you, or how did he knowthat that that was your mother?
Because he he had to know, hehad to know, damn it.
He had to know.
Oh my god, he had to know.
But I think you deserve answers,and I think you should get the
answers that you need becauseyou said when you guys are
arguing, you're not telling mewhat you talked about, except
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that it was an argument thatensued.
So if you want to write me back,which I'm sure you will, you're
gonna tell me what thisargument's gonna be about
because I want to know, mylisteners want to know, and
maybe we can try to put someclosure to this.
Who knows?
You know, put some closure toit, try to get away from it.
But I know this is a chapterthat you don't want to revisit,
and I know it's a chapter thatyou want to get rid of and say,
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Well, I want to be done withthis, I want to move on.
Well, you have done that, youhave done that because I think
what you're starting tounderstand now is that you're
starting to realize is that thisguy did you dirty, he did your
mom dirty, and you come to findout about it, but you were
ultimately gonna stay with himuntil you told your mom, and
then she told you, but thatreally shouldn't have been the
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icing on the cake.
The icing on the cake shouldhave been the moment you he seen
that file, and that you shouldhave quickly said, Well, how do
you know this woman?
Or better yet, how the hell doyou know me?
Because it feels like it's likea mind game this guy's playing
with you guys.
Because if he met your friend,and this is what I understand, I
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get the fact that you know, youwomen are younger, and some
younger women want older men.
I get it, not a big deal, butthere has to be some kind of
level of maturity on your partas well as his part to say that
well, I don't think I can dothis, or I can't date you
because such and such, orbecause I knew you, I knew your
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I try to date your mother, but Idate end up dating your best
friend's mother.
There has to be some kind of youknow accountability for that.
There has to be, and if if thatwas me, I don't think I could do
that.
I don't know, it's not I don'tthink I don't I know I couldn't
do that because that'sdisgusting.
I mean, who the hell would dosomething like that?
That's crazy work.
That's that's disgusting.
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I don't know if any of mylisteners could ever do
something like that, but if youthink that I'm wrong and what
I'm saying, please chime inanytime.
I mean, I'm just saying this isjust my opinion, you know, my
opinion, because I havedaughters, and I wouldn't want
my daughters to go throughanything like that.
And I'm sure my listenerswouldn't want their kids going
through nothing like that.
I mean, this is shit you onlysee on TV, you know, like on the
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Jerry Springer show.
I don't know if y'all rememberthat show.
That show was way wild, like,whoa.
But I think at the end of theday, I think that you had a lot
of growing up to do.
You still have a lot of grown upto do.
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I mean, listen, I'm 47 years oldand I'm still learning life.
You know, I'm still trying toteach my kids the way of life,
and I'm still trying to teach mykids how to do what's right, and
even when they're being donewrong, I still want them to come
out okay.
I don't want them to go crazy ortry to kill somebody or try to
do some harm to themselves oranybody else because that's not
the way they need to do things.
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I mean, back in our day therewas used to be a thing called
civil breakups.
Now you got breakups all overTikTok, Facebook, IG, and Miss
Rachel, please don't do that.
Please don't.
You know, it's okay to talk tosomebody, but it's not okay to
kind of like and what I mean byput it out there like you know,
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broadcasting, you know, you endup in jail.
Well, he did this to me.
You know, it's like this onechick I seen on um there's this
video that I was scrollingthrough on TikTok, and this
chick was, I mean, she bashedthis guy's car and said he was a
cheater, and the guy was at therestaurant.
I don't know if you guys seenthat video, but he was in the
restaurant, he was just eating,he came out.
I he just had bought the car.
But the dude played it cool.
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He just sat there, let her dodamage to the car, and then he,
I mean, he did a follow-upvideo.
The girl went to the girl'shouse, chick said she was
pregnant, she tried to run.
I think the shit was hilarious.
I think she got some jail timefor that, but ultimately the
insurance paid his car paid forhis car to get you know fixed.
I mean, I probably would havejust called it a loss, but you
know, that's that's just me.
But you know, whatever.
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But in any event, when you whensomebody that hurt you, hurt
you, they didn't hurt you.
Well, let me put this in anotherway.
They may have hurt you, but youdon't need to two wrongs don't
make it right.
You don't you don't need to geteven with them.
The only way you can get evenwith them is by moving on, doing
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what's best for you, and whenthey see you in the future,
which nine times out of ten theywill, they'll see how good
you're doing, they'll see howbetter your life has gotten
since you left that problembehind.
Because eventually, if youignore the problem, the problem
will well, this this kind ofproblem will go away.
And this man was a problem, hewas a huge problem.
I've never seen one personinflict so much pain on a mother
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and a daughter, not once, nottwice, but three times.
Could have been fourth, but MissEsther's like, I ain't playing
it, I don't get down like that.
My loyalty too is to um her bestfriend.
And yes, I was gonna say thatyou could take a note from your
parents from your mother,because the crazy thing is, is
that oh my gosh, I don't seeeven how this this should even
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happen.
Your father and her father lefteach other and decided to shack
up.
How does that even happen?
What the hell?
I mean, I wasn't really gonnatalk about that, but I was kind
of intrigued by that.
That you told me that her fatherand then your father left, and
they were the ones like gettingit on in a hotel room.
Geez, that's a lot to unpack inthis story.
But I clearly don't want to knowabout that.
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My viewers may, but I don't.
But I don't really want to knowthat.
But oh goodness gracious.
Ooh, it's a lot to unpack inthis letter.
But you said that you weren'treally mad at your father.
That's good, but it kind ofstinged me.
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I'm trying to figure out how thehell that even happened.
That's weird, yo.
But I mean, you got us.
unknown (35:51):
I'm thinking of it.
SPEAKER_00 (35:52):
I don't know.
It's it's what it is.
But hey.
So I mean, listen, we all haveissues in life, right?
We all have problems.
Nobody is perfect, not even me.
I'm not perfect.
You know, I've done my share ofdirt.
Uh, I've done some things I'mnot too proud of, but as day
(36:13):
goes on, I still, you know, tryto evolve myself to make sure I
don't keep making thosemistakes.
I mean, I'm not a perfect man,even though in the eyes of some
people I am considered perfect,but I'm not, I don't claim to be
perfect.
I don't want to be perfect.
I just want to be me.
I mean, I think for the mostpart that people say I'm a good
person, and I am a good personon some parts or majority parts
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of my life.
There's just one part of my lifethat I struggle with, and that's
just are you still I can'treally say being alone, but just
the the the support of women andthe company of women.
I love women, but I love womennot enough to, you know, do
those kind of things to womenbecause that's not who I am.
I don't really want to hurtanybody, I don't, you know, but
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in my lifetime I have hurt a lotof people and I have apologized
for stuff like that, and I'vedone some things that I'm not
too proud of, but I try to atonefor that, you know.
No male is perfect, norelationship is perfect, nothing
is perfect, everything is hard.
Loving someone is hard work.
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So I think that what I'm tryingto say is that is that I think
that we are only human.
And though I don't think that Ithink being alone does suck
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because I I still miss thecompanionship of a woman, but
I'm not gonna go out here andtry to do what Mr.
Ron did because even though mykids have friends, I'm not that
kind of guy.
That's just kind of sick to me.
You know, I don't date a certaina woman over under a certain
age.
I mean, 25, huh, maybe, but youknow, I don't dip, I don't dip
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too too low because let's faceit, when you're fresh out of
high school and you're justcoming out of high school, you
don't really know how tonavigate the world.
I mean, you may think that therelationship that you want now,
that you have now, this is whatyou want in the future, but
let's be honest.
When I started dating my wife,we were in high school, and we
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were like high schoolsweethearts.
Well, back then we didn't knowthe world was gonna turn out the
way it turned out.
Would I have gone a differentway?
No, I wouldn't.
I still would be married to mywife.
God rest her soul, she wasalive, but I would still go the
same way that I'm going today.
I mean, she gave me sixbeautiful kids, but as I said
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before, no one knew the worldwas gonna turn out, no one knew
that social media was gonna blowup.
And you young people today haveso much, like, oh my god, it's
like you have so much that youwant to do, but you guys do it
all the wrong freaking way.
You have you get on socialmedia, you post about this, you
post about that, you know, postabout he's a cheater and this,
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that, and the other.
Who the hell cares?
I don't even look at shit likethat.
I mean, listen, I appreciate theletters because I want to try to
help you, Miss Rachel and MissAngela, to become better women.
I mean, I don't look for norecognition off this, I just try
to give out good advice, and theadvice that I give is somewhat
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some experience that I follow,or some experience that I've
seen that my sisters havefollowed.
And I have a lot of sisters, andI try to tell them to do what's
right, and as you get older, youstart to get wiser, you start to
think about things, and youstart trying to figure out how
to live your life the best waythat you possibly can.
Because let's face it, I don'tthink waking up arguing with
(39:51):
somebody that you want to fightwith every single damn day is
just the key to everything.
It's not, it really isn't.
Jesus Lord.
I mean, at some point, you gottaget tired.
Of fighting the same personevery day and you're arguing
about nothing, that doesn't makeany sense.
That doesn't make any sense.
(40:14):
Y'all probably hear my damn catgoing crazy.
So as I said, you young peopletoday can take a lot of notes
from your parents or whoever.
(40:37):
I would challenge you, MissRachel, to continue to work with
your mother.
Continue to love your mother,continue to honor your mother,
and your father, even thoughhe's gay and he's with your best
friend's dad.
But kind of a family affair?
I don't really know.
I mean, at least you know whohe's doing.
(40:59):
That's crazy.
This is wild.
I want to know more about thisfather and how they hooked up.
Maybe he'll write the show.
I don't know.
I don't think he will, though,because I don't think he's gonna
listen to this.
But I'm just trying to figureout how that all came about.
I mean, excuse me, that's not mycup of tea.
It's really not, but hey, it iswhat it is.
So, Miss Rachel, Miss Angela,the sun is going to shine on you
(41:23):
both again.
Just have patience and justunderstand that life is what you
make of it.
You know, you're not gonna bealone forever.
But getting yourselves together,I think Miss Rachel, since you
have your best friend back, kindof be a support system for her.
You know, she's about to have ababy by a no-good dude that
basically is doing her wrong.
(41:43):
Clearly, they're not gettingmarried, and you're not getting
married to them, so that's agood thing.
Um, depending on where he works,or even if you want to pursue
that child support, I don'tknow, because it sounds like you
don't want to do it, and shedamn doesn't want to do it, and
Miss Esther damn sure doesn'twant to do it.
All she probably was doing issee his ass six feet under, and
(42:03):
I'm not condoning no kind ofviolence, but I can imagine Miss
Esther's pain, but you are agrown woman, and this is what we
call in life we make mistakes.
I'm not saying your child is amistake, I'm just saying what
you did was probably kind of amistake.
I don't know.
That's the thing.
I don't know what these men cansay to younger women that would
(42:25):
just automatically get them inbed.
I mean, clearly, if this guycame in looking like 100k,
clearly you want to investigatemore to try to see what he was
about.
You know, don't just oh man, Idon't get it.
I don't, you know, I don'tpretend to be something,
somebody that I'm not.
I just pretend to be me.
Because being me is the mosteasiest.
(42:46):
And the easiest thing is justbeing yourself.
But I don't even think you gotyourself time to know this guy.
And then this guy proposed toyou, Miss Angela, and you said
yes.
He said you said yes, but thenhe moved, he moved to a whole
nother state, and I wonder whythat is.
I mean, clearly your mom mighthave had some kind of influence
(43:06):
on that, which I probably thinkshe might share in that, but
hey, it is what it is.
So I think there's gonna be alot of growing pains, there's
gonna be a lot of frustration,there's gonna be a lot of um,
there's gonna be a lot ofheartache, especially when this
(43:30):
child gets here.
Because then when the child getshere, you're gonna be more
pissed off.
Not with your child, but you'regonna be pissed off because um
because he's not gonna be there.
So I think that I think you needa huge support tonight.
(43:53):
And I'm pretty sure you have it.
I think your mom, like you said,I don't think your mom's really
mad at you.
I think she was just mad at thesituation that Ron has put her
child through.
And yes, you're a grown woman,but still, if this man tried to
get with Miss Esther, knowingthat he was dating your best
friend's mother, clearly MissEsther has all the knowledge and
(44:14):
wisdom that you're ever gonnaneed because she's your mother,
and your mother and your motherknows better.
I mean, it sounds like you guysgot a good upbringing, it sounds
like everything is going good inyour life, just this one speed
bump or this one roadkill on theroad that you guys seen to run
over that imaginary reappearedand reincarnated himself into uh
disgusting human of a man, buthey, whatever.
(44:34):
I don't know, I don't reallyknow, Mr.
Ron, but if you want to playthis back for him, maybe you
might want to listen to the showor whatever.
Maybe you might want he mighteven want to write me.
Maybe will, maybe he won't.
I don't know.
Not trying to make this toofamily affair, but because we
got other shit we gotta do hereon the show, but hey, it is what
it is.
So I'm gonna say this inclosing.
(44:57):
I think that what you did wasright.
I think that you shouldn't stopthere.
I think that you should continueto support each other because it
seems like the support is there.
Don't let anybody come betweenyou, your family, and your
friends.
Never let another man tear whatyou built apart.
(45:20):
Don't let him tear it down.
The next time you two decide todate somebody, maybe vet this
person.
Go through this person with afine-toothed comb.
Just because you look like 100kdoesn't mean you actually have a
hundred K.
Don't let none of that shit foolyou.
Women that I know are some ofthe best detectives ever because
(45:44):
they can get to anything andunderstand with anybody, and
they can get the answer thatthey need.
So, Miss Rachel, Miss Angela, Ihope this podcast finds you
well.
I really do.
And I really wish you both thebest, especially you, Miss
Angela, because you're about tohave this man's baby, and I'm
(46:07):
not saying you'll do anythingcrazy or anything wrong because
it sounds like that you have agood support system, you have a
good family-based supportsystem, and you have a best
friend who was like your sister,who really cares about you.
And I think that if you havethat, then continue to go with
that.
I think that when you when youhave what you have, you don't
(46:28):
want to let that go.
And that goes for you too, MissRachel.
Because as I said, it's hardenough as it is that she's gonna
be alone.
I mean, not alone as in thesupport system, but as alone and
raising this child because thischild may or may not have a
father, and that's sad, that'sreally sad.
But this is the life of the handthat you've been dealt.
(46:51):
So, but what I would challengeyou both is to just continue to
be in each other's lives,continue to support one another,
continue to grow with oneanother, continue to help each
other out because Rachel, youalready have a child.
Thank God you're not pregnantwith Ron's child, but you have a
uh baby daddy or your child'sfather, not sure what's going on
with him, but I'm hopefully thatyou have worked it out amicably
(47:14):
with him, and that you guys cancontinue to raise your child and
support your child asco-parenting without the
arguing, without the vicaring,without the fighting, just
peaceful co-parenting.
So, you know, as hard as it wasto you know understand your
letter.
(47:34):
I mean, I get it, but I've neverbeen through the shit that you
went through in this letter.
I mean, that's kind of a lot totake in.
But I think that as time goeson, I don't know if you'll even
let Mr.
Ron back in this life in yourchild's life.
I mean, if you do, don't fallfor the Okie doke.
(47:56):
Don't fall for him saying, Well,you know, and if he's buying you
gifts or whatever, tell him no,buy his kids gifts.
I mean, if he wants to get youflowers or whatever, uh, that's
that's probably a stretch to me,but whatever.
Because the crazy thing is, hesaid some of the most cornyest
shit in that that actuallyworked for some of you guys.
That didn't work for me.
I mean, well, I can't really sayit didn't work for me because
(48:18):
I'm not gay, but don't fall foranything, you know.
Stay vigilant, stay diligent,and stay understanding that this
is a life that he's created foryou.
What are you gonna do with it?
Are you gonna choose to go backto him because he's feeling some
type of way?
I don't give a man this man, Idon't give a shit.
This man is homeless.
(48:38):
He's got other kids.
So, how do you know it's notother women out there?
How do you know?
You don't know.
So I think that it's gonna beokay.
(48:58):
I really do.
I think there are brighter daysahead for both of you guys.
I think everything's gonna beokay.
So, as we get ready to close theshow out today, I want to say
thank you to my listeners, thankyou for my supporters, as I keep
thanking you on every podcastbecause I'm gonna keep doing it.
Thank you for the downloads ofthe show.
(49:19):
I appreciate you guys.
Keep the letters coming, um,keep the questions rolling.
As I said, in coming weeks, I'mgonna have a new co-host with
me.
She's gonna rock it out with me.
She's gonna try to brightenthings up, or maybe she's kind
of like the the bad side of me.
(49:40):
No, just joking.
She's the I'm the good person,she's the bad person.
Not really that kind of way, butshe keeps it more real than me.
I'm a Capricorn, she's aCapricorn.
Um, she goes by the name Queen,so it's gonna be Icon and Queen,
and I hope to have her here inthe coming weeks.
Now she does giveaways onFacebook.
(50:01):
As I said before, I will put thelinks to my socials in my
podcast.
She's doing giveaways.
I'm also gonna do giveaways onFacebook, but the Facebook
giveaways are gonna be for as ofright now my Filipino listeners
and my Filipino friends.
So you can follow me on anysocial medias: Facebook, TikTok,
(50:26):
IG, all three pages of my IG.
No, I'm just joking.
You can follow whatever, but shedoes giveaways as well.
Like, I think this giveaway thatshe's doing is something towards
the airline or air tickets orwhatever, but she does
giveaways.
Um, I'm going a different waywith my giveaways because I um
(50:47):
am so in tune with the people ofthe Philippines that I want to
do something with them because Ido have some Philippine
supporters that listen to myshow as well, and I want to say
I appreciate you guys forlistening to the show.
So, but she's gonna do peopleover here in America, I'm gonna
do people in the Philippines,and we're just gonna have fun
with it, we're just gonna rockout with it.
(51:07):
So, as I said before, myfollow-up show is gonna be
coming up, um, working on thatas well.
Um, this is a real treat becauseI usually don't do podcasts on
Monday, I only do them onSaturdays or over the weekends.
But if you're hearing it, ifyou're looking at me live on
BuzzCast and Facebook, then youknow you're getting an exclusive
(51:28):
sneak peek into the podcastbecause everybody else, if
you're not listening now, thenit's gonna come out on
Wednesday.
So episodes are going to try tobe released every Wednesday.
Sometimes I don't always get itright, but I'm working on it,
you know.
I got so much shit I'm workingon.
You know, it's hard being afather, it's hard being a single
father.
(51:50):
Nah, but it's all good though.
You know, I love being a father,I love being a parent, and
though sometimes only justloneliness doesn't try to get to
you, but I know what I havehere, and I know I don't want
nobody to take that away fromme.
So, as I said to you before,Miss Angela, Miss Rachel, I
think you guys are on thecorrect path.
(52:10):
You guys are on a good path.
So stay true to each other.
Um, stay humble, stay diligentin choosing your next suitor.
Because keep in mind, justbecause you choose somebody
doesn't mean they're gonna bethe father that you want them to
be.
(52:30):
Because I know that's what Mr.
Ron said to you, Miss Rachel, isthat he could be your child's
father and be the father thatshe's never had.
Well, he can't even be a father,so I'm not gonna get off topic,
I'm not gonna get off subject,because it's time for me to
close the show out, but let'sjust say that you got to choose
your frogs carefully because notevery frog you can kiss is gonna
(52:53):
turn into a prince, some arejust toads, real talk, uh yes.
So, I am also still working onmy streaming, which I should be
(53:15):
across all platforms here in thenext coming weeks.
So I just won't only be onBuzzCast, but I'll be on Twitch,
I'll be on YouTube, I'll be onTikTok, I'll be on Facebook, and
I'll be streaming all from onelocation because right now I'm
trying to stream on Facebook andBuzzcast, but the people in
Buzzcast can hear the musicplaying in the background, ada
(53:38):
yada yada woo-ty-woo, but mypeople in Facebook can't really
hear anything, which is what I'mspeaking, which is on
microphone.
So, you guys have been amazing,you guys are awesome.
Thank you for the likes, thankyou for the share.
Uh, if you want to follow mypage, so you can also get in on
the giveaways.
I am icon on Facebook.
(54:00):
Follow my page, know what thegiveaway is for, but this week's
giveaway is going to be forJolly B.
Uh, two families will get athousand dollar e-gift card for
Jolly B if they can tell metheir favorite podcast and why
about me, it's all about me, me,me, me.
I'm kidding, I'm joking.
(54:22):
So, alright, well, we're gonnaget ready to wrap this thing up
here because uh unfortunately Ihave to go to work tomorrow.
No, it's all good though, but Iwant to say thank you guys for
listening to the show.
I am icon.
The show is called Let's TalkAbout It.
Any questions, concerns,complaints, letters, d6mpire357
(54:47):
at gmail.com.
I hope to get some interactiongoing on one of these shows.
I mean, I got a lot oflisteners, but nobody's giving
me no feedback.
Come on, guys, chime in.
Tell me what you think.
But it's all good though.
I appreciate you guys listening.
I appreciate you guys tuninginto the show.
So until next time, y'all takecare of yourself and each other.
(55:08):
For now, y'all can just grooveout with this.
I can see the harbor by majortweaks.
So, y'all have a good one.
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