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I talk about what “preference” actually means—and what it doesn’t. I don’t put anyone on a pedestal; I look for character, kindness, and the ability to resolve conflict without turning life into a battlefield. We get into authenticity versus social media personas, why natural connection beats curated image, and how jealousy shows up in every culture if we let insecurity steer. I share why I won’t start fights to prove loyalty, won’t read phones to satisfy suspicion, and won’t mortgage my sanity to keep up with material demands. If a relationship needs surveillance to survive, it’s already starving for trust.

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SPEAKER_01 (03:33):
Trying to get another platform my screens are
not cooperating.
How's everybody doing out there?
Y'all doing all right?
Y'all good.

SPEAKER_00 (04:09):
Silly ass cat.

SPEAKER_01 (04:11):
Let's let y'all groove with that for a little
bit.
We're gonna get this showstarted.

(06:10):
Sorry, I'm just working onanother.
Um, so we're streaming on twoplatforms.
The other one is not cooperatingwith me just yet, but we'll
worry about that later because Ihave another show to do later on
today.
In any event, want to welcomey'all to the show.
I am the icon.
The show is let's talk about it.

(06:32):
So today, first off, how'severybody doing out there?
Everybody doing alright?
Damn it.
Sorry, phone.
Notifications down, sweeting itdown to the get down.
In any event, how's everybodydoing out there?

(06:52):
Y'all doing alright?
Y'all have a good week?
Not a fantastic week.
It's work.
The holidays are right aroundthe corner, which sucks.
But hey, it is what it is.
You gotta do what you gotta do,right?
So my week was good, you know,just work.
Um going through a lot of theseletters that I get via email.

(07:17):
It's not easy to go through theones you want to kind of pick
and choose, but you want to tryto make sure everybody gets
priority and try to read theones that's that you can get to.
So, but it's all good.
So, we have a letter that kindof stood out to me, which again
I'm not opposed to anything.

(07:39):
If you like me, you like me.
If you hate me, you hate me.
And that's pretty much what thisletter is today that is going to
be about.
Now, I don't bash women, Idon't, and I don't discredit any
woman, and it's fine if you comefor me because I can take it.
I'm a big boy.
I'm not gonna cry or spill milk,I'm not gonna go on a crash out

(08:02):
on social medias or nothing likethat because it's not what I do.
I mean, like I said, when yousend me a letter via email or
wherever, um, I will read it.
I'm not gonna sugarcoatanything, I don't need to
sugarcoat anything.
My feelings can't be hurt.
There's only one way you canhurt my feelings, and that would
be about my family, because Idon't play about my family.

(08:24):
Now, predominantly my kids, ifyou go there with my kids and we
have an issue, so then I got tospend countless hours hacking
your shit, trying to find outwhere the fuck you are and
getting at you.
Now I'm just joking, I don't dothat anymore.
I don't do that anymore, butreal talk.
So this letter that came to mefrom I think she.

(08:55):
Um when they send letters, andagain, you can remain anonymous.
I think this person shows remainanonymous, but this person
clearly thinks they say theyknow me, but maybe they do,
maybe they don't.
I don't know, don't really care.
But I will read this letter.
This letter is going to beentitled You Bastard.
Yes, that is directed towards meon the show called Let's Talk

(09:20):
About It.
So, without further ado, here wego.
Icon, I don't like you.
It starts off like that.

SPEAKER_00 (09:34):
Yeah, it does, yeah, it does.

SPEAKER_01 (09:35):
Like I said, when I get these letters, I transfer
them straight over to Word, andthen hopefully Word gets all the
words right.
If they do, they do, they don't,they don't.
But in any event, I don't likeyou.
I hate you, your show.
I think the advice you give isprobably not good but bad.
You talk like the women of thePhilippines are the only women
in the world.
I've heard past shows and youclearly put them over your own

(09:57):
kind.
I think you're a lonely man thatcan't really handle a real woman
in the USA.
So that's why you had to go tothe Philippines to find and
control women there becauseyou're a weak little man that is
clearly up that clearly isn't upfor the challenge of a real
woman.
I heard what you keep sayingabout the women in the US, and

(10:18):
it's not true.
Maybe you didn't try hard enoughor just can't satisfy a woman's
needs.
It's men like you that make ithard for a strong black woman
like me to find a good man.
I think you should re-evaluateyourself as a man and try to
figure out if you're a boy or aboy trying to prove himself a
man.
Because clearly what I've seenis a scared little boy.

(10:39):
I'm so sick of seeing my blackmen run to all the cultures
because they can't handle usblack women.
We are strong, always endured alot of shit when it comes to men
like you.
I'm just tired of it.
So before you So before you justbefore you just me let me tell

(10:59):
you who I am.
I'm a single woman by choice.
Every man that I've encounteredalways says that I need to chill
and stop trying to controleverything.
And the truth is I don't, but Ilike things a certain way.
And if he can't adjust to myneeds, then what good is he?
I'm so freaking tired of mensaying they need a real woman,

(11:20):
but can't handle a real woman.
Yes, I'm a diva.
I like my hair and nails doneevery chance I get.
I like to be pampered.
I enjoy the finer things inlife.
I know men like you couldn'tgive me anything like that, can
you?
So it seems like every man Idated has ran to the opposite
race, whether it's white,Mexican, Asian, or whatever,

(11:42):
whatever the hell they are.
I just know I hate the fact thatyou talk about Filipino women
like they're the only woman inthe damn world.
And clearly you are so one-sidedthat you're freaking that you're
a freaking joker man.
I follow you, and you're notthat interesting to me, but I
would give, but but I would havegiven you a chance, but you seem

(12:05):
to have the type that doesn'tinvolve black women.
But don't you worry about it,somebody wants me.
I hope that when people hearwhat I have to say and they
think differently about you, andthat they understand that they
can make their own choices andnot have some sad ass excuse of
a man trying to get everyone tobe with a Filipino woman.

(12:27):
I mean, you're not even thatpopular on IG TikTok, so clearly
nothing.
I don't even think you have ahuge following.
I have over 1.5 followers onTikTok.
Haha.
And my IG is 3k.
But I won't show you because youdon't deserve to see it.
And all I can say is that I amwell liked and you're a small
man with issues with blackfemales.
So you keep doing your littleshow because I'm sure it will go

(12:50):
nowhere.
But hey, what do I care?
I'll listen to your your sad assshows, and I'll listen to about
10 of your sad ass shows.
By the 15th, I've had enough.
I will say to this icon, maybeyou should give us black women a
chance before you decide to jumpship to another culture, you
bastard.
I emailed this person for aresponse, but there was no
response.

(13:10):
So, as I said before, um, Iencourage these letters.
I am not ashamed of who I am orwhat I stand for.
Now, I don't think in my pastshows I've ever bashed any black
females.
I come from a black femalemother, my sisters are black.

(13:32):
These are my experiences, so I'mgonna assume that this young
lady that is clearly pissed offwith me because I choose to date
Filipino.
Now, I don't go on every podcastepisode and share the thoughts
about you know how Filipino arebetter women than the women

(13:53):
here.
I did not say that.
So I think this young lady, andI don't want to say she's
disturbed because it's not myplace to put her down.
She can put me down all shewants.
You can say things like, I mean,basically what you just said.
Now, I choose to date a Filipinowoman because, yes, after my

(14:13):
wife died, my wife of 26 years,who gave me six beautiful
children, was biracial, was halfblack and half Italian, and who
I love dearly, and we weretogether since high school.
I tried, I really did.
I tried when I went to seektherapy, and as I said before in
previous shows, that when I wentto sync therapy, and my

(14:39):
therapist said just get outthere, not really date, but just
to find friends.
I tried that.
I tried that.
There was a young lady that weknew from our neighborhood who I
had no absolute interest in.
We were neighbors, she knows myparents, she knows my people.
I decided to ask if she wants togo out for breakfast or lunch,

(14:59):
not dinner, because dinner ismore like constitutes a date.
Breakfast and lunch is like, ohokay, just a friendly thing, get
up and do whatever.
As I said before, she didn'trespond to none of my texts
because why?
She told my mom that I thoughthe was gonna try to date me.
No, I've never tried to dateher.

(15:20):
I know she has a dude.
Well, supposedly had a dude.
He was I don't know.
But I there's nothing disturbingabout this letter because it
doesn't even get me mad.
It doesn't.
I'm not afraid of black women,I've dated plenty of black
women.
Now, it is my choice to date whoI want to date because that's

(15:43):
who I want to date.
And for this person to say thatshe would or wouldn't give me a
chance.
Okay, that's listen, I don'tunderstand what the fixation is
about black men going to othercultures.
Now, this is my experience.
My experience, nobody else's, myexperience.
And if I'm wrong, feel free toemail me, or you can even chime

(16:05):
in on chat and say that I'mwrong.
Ooh, I love my bait.
You can feel free to chime in onchat and hi Liliana 3333, I see
you there.
But I don't have an issue withno black women, I don't.

(16:25):
Now, it's just the ones thatI've came across who I thought
were genuine were clearly notgenuine.
Now, I've been told plenty oftimes I'm not hood enough, I'm
not gangster enough, or if youhave a lot of mouth, you expect
me to step in and uh defend yourhonor if you're in the wrong.
Okay, so if you start some shit,you want me to finish that shit.

(16:46):
That's not who I am.
I don't like drama, I don't dodrama.
So in the past I've dated plentyof black women, plenty of
beautiful black women.
Now, I've even dated a womanfrom my church who I thought
might have been the one, but youknow what happened?
And I thought she was the onebecause our families we were

(17:08):
good friends and we had aconnection like no other.
Well, turns out I wasn't herconnection, you know.
I clearly wasn't hood enough.
And what I mean by hood is thatshe wanted a a disrespectful
person.
It doesn't matter if you'reblack or white, it doesn't
matter.
She wanted the person, the typeof person that's a thug and that
you know did bad things.

(17:30):
I don't understand that, youknow.
So it's not for me to say andjudge what you like or what you
want, but I know what I like andwhat I want.
I am a simple man.
I'm not rich, I'm average, Iwork two jobs.
It's been that way for meforever.
But make no mistake about it,any woman that I've ever dated,
I've treated them with respect,and nine times out of ten, I'm

(17:52):
the one that gets burned.
I get burned, or I'm the onethat's saying that um, or
they're the ones that's sayingthat I'm not good enough for
them, or I've dated a preacher'sdaughter, and that didn't work
out the way I thought it wasbecause it turns out I was the
cover for the other boyfriend.
So I'd come around, I wouldvisit, and we would go out, but

(18:15):
unbeknownst to me, the sidedude, not the side dude, the guy
that she was truly interested inwas the one she wanted to be
with.
So I caught wind of that.
Now, just because I have a lotof bad experiences with black
women doesn't mean I discreditall black women.
I don't.
There are a lot of good blackwomen out there.

(18:36):
There are.
The bad thing is in this yearand age, they are hard to find
because usually they're with thewrong person, and you don't want
to try to break up a happy home.
That's not who I am.
I'm not this guy that's gonnaput myself on the auction block
and be like, oh, well, youshould come be with me, you
know, because he's not doing youright or he's not treating you
right.
Hang on, I'm gonna get somethingto drink.

(19:01):
But that's not me.
That's not who I am now.
It just so happens that I don'tknow, maybe it's in my blood.
I don't I don't really know.

(19:23):
I don't give up on black women,I don't.
But I don't understand if youcan write me this letter while
you're mad at me for dating aFilipino, it's not like I put
them on a higher pedal stoolbecause in truth and actuality,
all women are all men, theycheat.
It is just by my experience thatwhen I went to the site and
found this particular woman, itkind of worked out and it
clicked well.

(19:44):
And yes, we've had relationshipproblems as well as every
relationship does.
There's no perfect relationshipwhatsoever, none.
So I don't care how youcategorize it, there's none, but
that's the part of being in arelationship.
You're gonna have some growingpains, you're going to have some
ups and downs.
So do I trust her?

(20:04):
I do.
Can I trust her more over therethan I can someone over here?
Yes, why?
Because she's just that way.
That's just me.
Now, I've dated.
Um, I've had some interracialrelationships here, but
unbeknownst to me, that some ofthe women I've dated, their

(20:25):
fathers didn't seem to believein the interracial relationship
dating.
Now they're much more of adaddy's girl, and they want to
stay loyal to their father.
There was one girl who I datedwho I loved, who I thought we
were gonna be with.
Her mother was cool with it, buther father just did not believe,
and I've never met the father.
He just thought that every raceshould stay with every race.

(20:45):
And to this day, I don't know.
Um, I think her father passed,God rest his soul, but that
doesn't deter the hate in myheart.
So I think that you coming at melike this is just saying that
you're angry at yourself, butyou're not angry with me.

(21:06):
I don't even know you.
You won't even give me yourinformation to your TikTok or
IG.
I'm not the kind of guy that'sgonna go on there and put you on
blast because that's not what Ido.
That's not what I do.
I don't have shit to hide.
I don't.
I'm just me.
If you want to come at me andsay all this and you'd like to
find out things like that,that's fine.
But let me ask you this.

(21:26):
Women often say they want a realman, but then they're not 100%
real about themselves.
And what I mean by that is thatif you give if we're giving you
who exactly who we are, then whyare you living a separate life
than what you're trying no, holdon, why are you living two
different lives?
Like, back in my day, and Idon't mean no disrespect towards

(21:50):
any woman that's listened tothis podcast or that's that's
viewing me live on the show.
Back in my day, women were justso genuine.
Oh my god, the hair, the makeup,the everything.
Now it's like since the dawn ofsocial media, we're trying to be
somebody that we're not, andthat's not me.

(22:10):
I don't try to be somebody I'mnot because I don't want to be
somebody I'm not.
It's 10 times harder to try tobe somebody that you are trying
to be rather than just beingyourself.
It really is, it's exhausting,it's exhausting, it's tiresome,

(22:30):
and I don't see how you can keepwith that appearance.
But when we say when women saythey want a real man, but when
we get home, you turn tosomething totally different.
I want an all-natural woman.
I don't mind a little makeup,but my wife, God rest her soul,
we were married for 26 years.

(22:51):
Um, we were dating longer thanthat.
Well, not longer than that,about the same.
No, we came straight out of highschool.
So we were together for we weremarried for 26 years, we're
probably together for threeyears in high school.
The thing I loved about my wifeis that she was all natural, she
didn't need makeup to lookbeautiful.

(23:12):
Now, she was not uh a highmaintenance person.
I loved her for who she was.
Even when she got pregnant withsix of my kids and she said she
fell on weight, I didn't seethat.
I saw a beautiful woman who Iloved and who I fell in love
with, and I still seen that.
And when she left me, it kind ofhurt, you know, because it was
unexpected, and I didn't knowhow to cope with that.

(23:35):
But my wife was one of therealest ones that I have ever
met, and I was with my wifebecause I fell in love with her.
She didn't know how to cook, Itaught her how to cook, and she
became a better cook than me.
So, and she gave me sixbeautiful children who I love,
who I love to death.
So I think the better part of myyears was spending with the

(23:58):
black woman, even though she wasbiracial, but she was more black
than well, maybe she was alittle bit both because she was
half Italian.
But she didn't really havedidn't didn't need a lot of
makeup, you know, she didn'thave the hair extended, she
would get her hair done, butthat's with the understanding
that we were working together asa couple.

(24:18):
See, here's the other thing.
You say in your letter thatyou're a single woman by choice.
Well, I can't refute what you'resaying because what you're
saying is probably true.
You're probably a single woman,but you like to.
If you say you have if you havemen that always say that you

(24:42):
need to stop and chill, well, Ithink you're being a little bit
too aggressive.
I think you're wanting to puttoo much pressure on a man, then
rather than just let him behimself.
And I get it, we all wantsomebody, not that we can
control that somebody that is onour same level.
But I got news for you.
When you're dating somebody,they're not gonna always be on
your level.
You're with that person becauseof their specific unique

(25:04):
characteristics, their quality,that the way they do things, the
way they are, the way they act,the way they navigate life.
That's why you're with them.
So I think you're being, andit's nothing wrong with wanting
the finer things.
And you say you like to bepampered, that's fine.
I've got no problem with that.

(25:24):
I would send flowers to my wifeand I would take care of my
wife.
I'm not sure how much pamperyou're talking about because if
you want your hair and nailsdone, that's fine.
I've got no problem with that.
You know, women like to lookbeautiful.
That's no, that's but the thingthat I kind of draw the line is
that I don't have a problem withwomen looking beautiful.
I just think that you put toomuch on to try to cover up the

(25:46):
natural beauty, and you don'tneed to change what God has
already given you or what'salready you don't need to
enhance that.
If you're beautiful, bebeautiful.
But and this goes for everyrace.
I'm not just singing out blackwomen because white women, y'all
do it too.
I don't get the fascinationabout the nails.

(26:06):
I don't.
I don't get the fascinationabout the nails or the hair.
The nails I think should bemaybe here.
Can y'all see that?
Maybe right to there.
But when you got nails, it'slike fucking Wolverine claws,
and that you know you gottaworry about if you're you're
gonna go out and maul somebody.
I mean, damn, really?
I mean, who needs them kind ofnails?

(26:28):
I work with the chick and she'son a register and she has these
these nails that are like outthere.
I'm like, how in the hell do youoperate this thing with these
nails on?
And it's like Wolverine claws orFreddy Kruger claws on both
hands, like wow.
Jesus.
But I don't have a problem withthat.

(26:49):
I mean, it's just not me.
I can't date a woman that, youknow, knowing that I'm gonna go
to sleep and I might wake up,you know, getting clawed up to
death because I'm thinking I'mhaving a bad dream, but really
it's her, you know, flipping,tossing and turning, and she's
sleeping kind of wild, and youknow, I'm waking up like I'm in
a bad nightmare, like I'm innightmare on M Street or

(27:10):
something.
But I'm saying I don'tunderstand that.
I don't now I can understand ifthe nails are like maybe this
this, I don't I don't know.
This is just me.
It's just me.
So I don't see how women drive,I don't see how they do a lot of

(27:32):
stuff.
Because I mean, there was backin the day there was a Guinness
World Book of Record, but thatwasn't here though.
I think that was over some othercountry, but that's their
culture.
But in any event, I don't have aproblem with that.
Your hair, I like a woman withall natural hair.
I do.
If you got to put on bushels ofhair, and the crazy thing is,

(27:53):
there's nothing wrong withspending that kind of money on
your appearance if you're gonnaenhance yourself, enhance
yourself to make yourself lookmore real, not like a plastic uh
made-up doll that a kid can playwith, because y'all have hair
that's coming all the way downto your feet, and I get the
obsession because in othercultures that's their culture.

(28:13):
So, and yes, Filipinos do havelong hair, and that's not why
I'm attracted to the one I'mattracted to.
I'm attracted to this young ladybecause of her qualities and her
characteristics.
Now, as I said before, I'm not aman that has money, I am an
average person who takes care ofhis family, who takes care of
his kids, who loves his family,and who loves the idea of just

(28:37):
being happy.
Now, I will send you flowers, Iwill do things for you, but I
won't go broke um trying to makeyou happy.
That's just not something I do.
I don't care because if I'mdoing all this for you, who's to
say you're not getting it fromsomeplace else?
Am I right or am I wrong?
Could be.

(28:58):
Anybody in the chat want torepeat that?
So I can sit here honestly andsay that I have tried to give
women in the US a lot ofchances.
It doesn't matter what race youare, you can be black, white,

(29:19):
Asian, um, Mexican, whatever.
The problem is is the problem ofsocial media.
You can't really see who's realor not because as social media
dictates, as this lady hasdictated to me that I don't have
a lot of followers.
I don't do this for follows.
I don't do this for likes.
I do this because I enjoytalking about it.

(29:39):
I mean, I'm not out here tryingto promote myself as this
proprietor of of thePhilippines.
I'm not.
I enjoy the culture, I like theculture, I like the atmosphere
over there.
That's because I've never beenthere before.
I haven't.
If I could, I would go toanother country.

(30:00):
But so far I've been to thePhilippines.
I like what they had to offer.
I like the women there.
I like the food there.
I like the culture there.
It's sad because their economyis not worth a damn, but still.
But I don't talk about them.
I only talk about them ifsomebody wants my advice.
And nine times out of ten, Igive them that advice.

SPEAKER_00 (30:21):
Hang on.

SPEAKER_01 (30:23):
And when I give them that advice, it's up to them to
take that advice.
Now I know in the past I'vegotten a lot of flack from uh
women saying that, you know, myboyfriend has gone to a Filipino
woman, I blame you.
You can't blame me for yourscrew-ups.
That means if you're not doingsomething in your relationship,
and here's the other thing Ithink men are genuinely tired of

(30:44):
the bickering, the arguing, thenonsense, uh bullshit that some
women put us through.
Now, I get it, hold on, hold on,I get it.
Men do the same to women whenthey cheat, they lie.
Or the the infamous thing, thecell phone.
I don't get why would you lookat each other's cell phone?
When I was in the Philippines, Idid not look at my girl's cell

(31:05):
phone not once.
Why?
Because I trust her.
Eventually, if you look in yourspouse's cell phone, you're
gonna find something that youdon't like.
A cell phone to me is like aconfessional, it's private.
You know, you go do things onthe cell phone that you would go
talk to a uh priest about or acounselor about.
Now, um, I'm not saying men areblameless in this because men

(31:31):
are totally, I think it I thinkit shared 50-50.
Men put women through a lot andwomen put men through a lot, but
nobody probably puts worse menwomen through a lot than just
men.
And I can agree with that, I canunderstand that.
Because men sometimes have a lotof bad intentions, and women, we

(31:52):
get a little bit jealous when weshouldn't be.
I mean, if a chick says hi toyou in traffic, you all up in
her car, like, well, why is shesaying hi to you?
She's at the next car over.
What the hell?
I just looked over and she saidhi.
It's not like you know, oh, youknow her now.
No, I don't know her.
She just said hi.
We're sitting in bumper to rushout of traffic, and we're like,
oh my god, I can't believe thisis happening.

(32:13):
Make it seem like she's gonnacome get in the car.
Listen.
So I think women, I think everytime a woman says hi to us, you
guys feel threatened, andthere's no need to feel
threatened because if a woman isjust saying hi to us, like
whether she's at a restaurant,hi on your server, or whether

(32:33):
she's just passing by on thestreet, it's not like she's you
know gunning for your position.
Unless they truly know eachother, which nine times out of
ten, they maybe they don't.

SPEAKER_00 (32:43):
I mean, and here's what I will say about the women
in the Philippines they are somevery jealous women, very jealous
women, jealous.

SPEAKER_01 (32:53):
Because you can't go over there and talk to a woman
without getting the thirddegree.
So, American women and Filipinowomen, y'all might share that
same characteristic.
Because when I was in thePhilippines for the first time,
and I was at the seashore by theBay Park or whatever, there was
a young girl that came up to me,and I think I told y'all this

(33:14):
story before, but whatever I'mgonna tell it to you again.
And there was a young girl thatcame up to me and she was
selling stuff out of nowhere.
It's like, you know, when you'rein a movie and the person that
you see from a far distance, andlike when you talk to somebody,
but then that person leaves, andthen your girl's like, right
there, that's the shit thathappened to me.
But she's like, Well, who isthat girl?
I was like, She's a kid, she'sselling books, she's trying to

(33:35):
get money for school.
Oh, okay.
And then she like vanished.
I was like, Well, what the hellis that all about?
Weird.
But I think women in the US oh,hold on.
Sorry, I get a text when youknow I got you imagined thing,

(33:58):
you know, could be a potential.
Hold on.
Yeah, I'm doing a show rightnow.
I'm doing a show right now.

(34:21):
So I had to call you I had tocall you back.
Okay, sorry.
Anyways, so where was I?
Okay, so I think I just said Iwas doing a show.

(34:52):
So I think, and listen, I don'tknow if some of these videos on
social media are real, but someare real and some are they not.
And I think the men that tryingto test their women to know that
your girl is crazy when you saywhen you guys do these stupid
text messages talking abouttexting my girl, I'm leaving,
come on, I'm coming over now.

(35:13):
Y'all know what y'all are doing.
Y'all know what y'all doing.
And I think that's that I thinkthat stuff's kind of stupid
because that's what leads andthat's what starts it.
If you're trying to trying toget a reaction out of your girl
and trying to see what she'sgonna do, well, you know what
she's gonna do.
Because while you're doing thisand you're gonna try to keep it
going on, well, somebody somemight say that might turn into a
real situation.

(35:33):
I'm just saying, it could be areal situation.
But me personally, I don't liketo play around like that.
So here's the other thing.
I think women are a little bittoo aggressive with their
spouses when something pops offand they think that they should
intervene on their behalf.
I don't think that.

(35:54):
I don't.
I think if you got a lot ofmouth on you, I think you're
gonna be out there with a lot ofmouth on you.
Because again, as I said before,I'm not fighting your battles
unless I really need to defendyou.
Now I would defend you if a manhas disrespected you, put hands
on you, or said something likeremotely bad about you.

(36:18):
But I'm not going to throw handsbecause you feel the need, you
want to run your damn mouth.
And meanwhile, while I'm goingto jail, you shacking up with
the dude that whooped my ass.
That's plain, that's basicallywhat it is.
Oh, he wasn't shit anyways.
I'm glad you whooped his ass.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
So that's not the kind of personI am.
I'm sorry.

(36:38):
Nope, don't do it.
So I think my wife, um lord.
I think my wife, um, my wife hasshe has more mouth than I do,
and she will throw hands in aminute.
And though she was like a buck25, maybe that's soaking wet,
she was not afraid to get downwith the get down.
There's been plenty of timeswhere I had to intervene on her
behalf.

(36:59):
Um, and that's not that she wasin the wrong, she was always in
the right, um, because that'sthe kind of person that my wife
was.
She didn't take no shit offnobody.
So I think that if you'relooking for that type of guy,

(37:34):
men are just tired of fightingfor dumb shit, like stupid shit.
I mean, we understand that somewomen have a lot of mouth on
them, and that a lot of womenoften say shit that they want
their men to back up, but ninetimes out of ten that you just
end that way.
It usually ends the way that themale trying to defuse the
situation.
Because what's the point ofgoing to jail over something
that you didn't start?

(37:54):
Now, if we're telling you to getin the car or to tone it down a
little bit, tone it the helldown.
You want me to go to war andfight this guy for what?
Because you said somethingstupid to him and you think I
should come in and defend yourhonor?
It don't work like that.
It's not gonna work like that.
Not with me.
Now, other men might do thatstupid shit, and then you might
go to jail, and then again,while you in jail, your girl is

(38:17):
shacking up with the dude thatultimately whooped your ass
because she's gonna be at thehospital with him, because while
you're sitting in jail and she'sthinking to herself, oh well, he
got his ass whooped, but he didgo to jail for me, but the other
guy's out.
So, what do you think is gonnahappen?
And nine times out of ten, Ithink that shit is just
malicious anyway.
And this thing is just like awhole setup.
I just can't do that.
I really can't.

(38:37):
So I think I think that you sayI'm scared.
I'm not scared of black women,I'm not scared of any women.
I only fear one man, and that'sGod.

(38:58):
I just don't like confrontation,I don't like the drama.
Now, if that's something personthat you are, then that's who
you are.
If you're alone because you sayyou're alone, because you're
alone, because you like tocontrol things, well, I got news
for you.
Until you learn to change andadapt and do something
different, then you're gonnaalways be alone.
I knew a girl like this, and Idon't even know if this is her,

(39:19):
but I knew a girl who wasbeautiful, was all get out, but
she had the most nastiestattitude.
Like nothing would appease her,nothing would make her happy.
If you tell her it's a beautifulday, she'd tell you it's a bad
damn day.
If you said the sky, it's just abeautiful day all around, and
oh, let's go out and get somecoffee.
I don't want coffee, I don'tdrink coffee.
I mean, the littlest thingswould set her off, and I swear

(39:39):
to god, I kid you not.
This chick would come in with adifferent man every week, and
I'm like, damn, that's gotta beraw.
Then the guys would be like,Yeah, man.
I mean, the guy that I seen thatshe messed with was like, dude,
she was like all bad.
I mean, I couldn't do anythingright.
Men, we want to be corrected,but we want to work with you.
We want to be an equal towardsyou.
We don't want to fight with you.

(40:00):
If you want to look for reasonsto fight about something, then
you gotta find somebody else forthat.
I don't like relationshipsthat's filled with drama because
you like live less and you getso stressed out and things start
going like bad for you, youknow, because you're always on
pins and needles with your girland trying to figure out well,

(40:20):
how can I make her happy?
You know, the one thing I lovedabout my wife, even though she
was half Italian, half black, isthat she would appreciate me and
though she would get upset andshe would have some anger
issues, but I love that abouther because the sex was great
afterwards, and sex is alwaysgood when it's mega sex, isn't
it?

SPEAKER_00 (40:41):
But ooh god, I gotta love that bait.
Uh Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 (40:51):
But uh, so I wish I knew this person's name, but
then again, it's not reallyimportant.
If you think I'm a lonely man,then that's fine.
If you think I can't handle areal woman, that's fine.
I can handle a real woman.
I just want that woman to be soreal with me that she doesn't
have to wear a different personaand to say that I'm real,

(41:16):
everything about me is real.
Because let's be real honest, Idon't know who keeps it worse,
men or women.
And this show is not aboutbashing either side.
I'm just trying to get you guysto see the bigger picture.
Yes, men cause a lot more issuesthan women do.
I mean, that's just in myopinion.
I don't know if that's I mean,that's just what I see.
You know, I've seen that withall my sisters growing up.
You know, my sisters wentthrough so much hell with their

(41:39):
uh kids' fathers or theirboyfriends and stuff like that.
Boy, you ain't got a duff, justa show.
Oh, it's my son in thebackground.
But I don't disrespect women.
Like if we get into an argument,I won't you won't ever hear me
call the woman the B-word.
And I know that women like tocall each other that.
I hate that.
That also gets on my nerve.
But I've seen men do that, andit doesn't matter how mad I get,

(42:01):
and me and my wife, we wouldwhen we first got together, we
would argue a lot.
And uh, well, not when we firstgot married.
When we first got yeah, when wefirst got married, because like
when we got married, uhsomething changed.
It changed immediately.
She went from the sweet, nice,loving girl to the spawn of
Satan.
No, I'm just joking.

(42:22):
I love you, sweeter.
I'll just joking with you.
No, but well, she changed, butit wasn't a bad change.
Um, it was a good change.
It's just that you know, shestarted picking up a little bit
of jealousy and you know, thingslike that.
But you know, it's all good.
You know, that's what I signedup for.
She tried to kill me with ahammer once.
I don't know if I told you guysthat.
No, I'm just joking.

(42:43):
Uh, but I miss my wife, I do,and I really love her, and I
thank her for the light that shegave me.
So it doesn't matter what thisperson thinks, I'm a bastard,
and I don't like the fact thatyou know you say that I'm a
lonely man, but that's fine.
And here's the other thing yousay you're popular on TikTok,
you're popular on IG, that'sgood, good for you.

(43:04):
I don't do this for the likes.
I don't, I do this for fun, I dothis because I like doing it.
So if you think that I'm on heregoing ham because of the
followers, I'm not, and I'm notdefinitely gonna crash out about
it neither, because that's notwho I am.
So if people want to follow me,then they can follow me, they

(43:25):
can choose to follow me.
Let's be real clear.
You it said it took you you saidby the 15th show you had to call
it quit.
So clearly you might have likedwhat you were hearing, and
because you made it all the wayto the 15th, uh, 15th show, and
I have way more shows than that.
So it's fine that um that yousay these things about me

(43:50):
because I don't get upset aboutit, I don't get triggered about
it, I'm not gonna crash outabout none of this stuff.
Um, if you don't want my show tobe successful, it's fine.
I'm not out here trying topromote myself and thinking I'm
this messiah of everything ortrying to fix everybody's
problems.
When people come to me, I try togive the best advice as
possible.
I know that this person thoughtwhen they when she hears this

(44:12):
show, she thinks I'm gonna crashout and spas out so she can come
back at me, which I encourageher to write me back, or she
might be on the live.
I don't know.
I don't know, but it'scompletely fine.
So I think for you to discreditme is okay, it's fine.
But if you want to startdiscrediting me, you need to
take a hard look at yourself.
Because if you're discreditingme, if you feel this way about

(44:32):
me, this is probably why yourrelationships are not working.
Because I'm not the only man,and I don't even think men have
really hurt you.
I think you have really justbeen so spiteful and so
deceitful and so angry abouteverything, and I don't know
what that is.
I can't tap into that becauseyou didn't tell me.
But in any event, I give I'vegiven black women plenty of

(45:02):
chances.
I've dated a lot in my past, andthey have not worked out for me.
And though I do not hateanybody, and I do not and I have
no ill will towards anybodybecause it's just not the only
black women that did me wrong.
I've been done by white women,uh, feeling the same way as
black women.

(45:23):
So I think if you want changeand you want to do things a
different way, this is just inmy opinion the way that I went.
Now, I'm sorry that you feelhurt that I went to another
culture when I honestly don'teven know you and you won't even
tell me who you are.
So I'm willing to give everybodya fair shot and a fair chance.

(45:44):
But if you can't accept mydecision, because here's the
thing, I'm still trying tofigure out why you're so angry
at me, and it's like I don'teven think we know we couldn't
have dated because you clearlywould have indicated that in the
letter.
But and you have all thesefollowers, and that's good.
I'm not gonna say how you gotthe followers or what you did to

(46:05):
get the followers, but that'sgood for you.
So, in any event, let's justleave it at that.
If you're angry with me afteryou hear my response, please
feel free to email me backd6mpire357.com at gmail.
Wait a minute, d6mpire357 atgmail.com.

(46:26):
So that's fine.
If you want to talk about it, wecan talk about it.
I am going to be hosting a forumwhere we can come on here and
you guys can share your thoughtswith me, and we can do like a
talk after the podcast orwhatever, and we can try to
figure out because, like I said,I'm not I don't pretend to be

(46:48):
the best person that I knoweverything about everything.
These are just life experiences.
I've lived a lot in my life.
I'm 47 years old, and yes, I am.
I know people like like oh mygod, he's 47.
I get that a lot.
I look younger than what I am.
That's because why I stay thehell out of drama.
You feel me?
You hood me.
I don't do drama.

(47:09):
So as you can see, there's nogray hairs, 47, got six
beautiful kids, my oldest son,23 years old.
But I don't do drama.
So I am probably the only one ofmy uh out of my siblings that
doesn't have um gray hair.
Um this is who I am, you know.

(47:46):
I go to work, I live life, and Ienjoy my life.
And I think that if you have tolike wake up in a negative
environment every day, well,you're gonna age quicker and
you're probably gonna go a lotquicker than you need to.
Because life is not about drama,life is about you living your
life to its fullest.
Life is about you just enjoyingwhat you have around you and
what you are doing to make surethat you live a healthy life.

(48:08):
Now, I've seen people that livelife on the edge, it didn't work
out for them.
The last girl I dated, the lastwhite girl that I dated, um, she
was with this dude, and thisdude lived life on the edge.
Like he was, I mean, weed, Imean, he was a uh a speed
junkie.
He was on his on his, I think Itold this story story before.
You know, I'm gonna tell itagain because it's my show.

(48:30):
I'm gonna tell it again.
Now listen up now.
Anyways, the last white girl Idated, um, she was uh, and yes,
her boyfriend was a he was justa speed junkie, he loved
adrenaline, he's adrenalinejunkie, but he had taken, I
mean, he was doing like maybe abuck eighty on a crotch rocket,

(48:53):
and I say he was in the air forat least a good minute or so
before he came down.
When he came down, it was notpretty, it wasn't.
So then after he had passed, andI was like, oh my god, I'm
sorry.
But it just didn't work out,didn't work out because she
still loved that quality of aman, and that's the kind of man
that she wants.
Listen, if you guys want, youguys are gonna like who you're

(49:15):
gonna like, but don't expect tobe treated a certain way if this
is the guy that you choose.
If you choose a guy that youknow is not good in the
beginning, and that doesn't haveanything going for him, like
he's got no job, no nothing, noplace, no car, but you get mad
when he takes up your shit, thenthis is what you choose.
And I gotta be honest, somewomen choose men based off the

(49:38):
looks and the way in the abilityhe can lay pipe.
Okay, that's not me.
I don't look at females thinkinglike, oh my god, I need to get
inside of her.
Yeah, yeah.
I think I can give her somethingshe can be proud of.
Yeah, that's not me.
I don't.
Even when I went to thePhilippines, I didn't look at
women like that.
And Lord knows it's a lot ofthem over there.
Jesus is a lot.

(50:00):
But that's not me.
That's not what I go what I do.
So when you women When you and Ithink the men are, I don't know,

(50:24):
I can't really say the men arethe same way because men, you
know, the men that send meletters on this show are just
tired of just the bullshit.
They're just tired of being, youknow, feeling like they're less
than.
They're just tired of feelinglike, you know, like then what
they're what they're doing,they're not accomplishing
anything.
And I get it, I understand that.
And I know it takes two, and Iknow that when I get these

(50:46):
letters, they're all one-sided.
Um, I've only gotten a fewletters in the past where I've
had couples either email theshow or whatever, and we kind of
talk about it.
But I can't put blame, onlything I can do is offer you
support.
I can offer you support, but Ican't put blame on the woman
unless I don't really like tojudge a book by its cover, but

(51:07):
if you give me the informationand I take the information, I
try to analyze the informationand try to make sense of the
information, then yeah, becauselike I said, I've gotten letters
in the past where men have saidthat you know, listen to your
show a lot, and then I decidedthat my girl wasn't for me, and
I decided to do get on the siteFilipino Cup, and I found my

(51:28):
Filipino Cupid.
And here's the thing as I saidbefore, when I went over to the
Philippines, there was a lot ofbrothers over there.
A lot of brothers, Jesus, a lotof brothers.
So, and I get it.
I I mean you gotta understand.
I think for me as a black man, Ijust want someone that's gonna
love me.
I want somebody that I can comeon to and just say that, you

(51:49):
know, hey, I love you, Iappreciate you.
I don't want somebody to come tocome on to like, well, how much
money did you make today?
Or I need to get my nail andhairs done.
Uh, I need a new, I need, I neednew red bottoms, new boots, or
whatever.
I don't know whatever shit y'alljust buy because I don't even
buy none of this stuff.
That's why I don't even I don'tknow nothing about it because I
don't buy it.
Damn it.
Yeah.

(52:13):
The thing I loved about my wifeis that she wasn't a
materialistic woman.
And though she had needs and Imet her needs, I would take care
of her on her birthday,holidays, especially Valentine's
Day.
That was one of my favoriteholidays.
And that's what I'm saying.
When men do stuff like that, andit doesn't matter if he if he
buys the littlest gift in theroom, it's the thought that
counts.

(52:33):
If he's trying to be everythingthat you want him to be, and
that that you need him to be,then let him do that.
Now, if he doesn't have a lot ofmoney, but he's working to make
sure that you have a roof overyour head, let him do that.
Because in the end, when thatman turns to something good,
you're gonna appreciate him forthat.

(52:54):
But if you leave him at his lowbecause you feel that you need
better, then you're gonna loseout on that.
And I've seen that happenbefore.
I've seen it happen before.
You know, my sisters who I love,I love my sisters, um, they've
been through some things.
You know, I got a sister nowwho's do they like he just up

(53:14):
and left, up and left.
And he went to go be withanother female.
Turns out the female that he waswith, that he went to go be
with, wasn't no nearest comparedto what my sister was.
My sister is a hard-workingwoman.
She's really hard working, shetakes care of her family, and
she this is how hard she worked.
She would come home after longdays of work, cook dinner, uh,

(53:38):
make sure the house is clean,draw my bath, and when he went
to the hospital, she drove anhour away to the hospital.
Now, if that ain't a good woman,I don't know what it is, but he
didn't appreciate that.
He'd rather go and be withsomebody that was the hood or
somebody who was just not her.
So I'm not scared of a strongwoman.

(54:06):
I embrace a strong woman.
I love seeing a strong woman.
I love seeing women do theimpossible because that's just
who I am.
But as we get ready to closethis show out, because this has
been fun, if you guys feel thatyou want to add something to
this or say something about it,it's completely fine.

(54:30):
Um, we're not gonna fight aboutit, we're not gonna argue about
it, we're going to talk aboutit.
That's what we do here.
We talk about things.
So to the listener that wrotethe show and calling me a
bastard, I will be anything youwant me to be.

(54:50):
It is fine.
I am good with that.
So I just wish you the best ofluck.
I hope that you find what you'relooking for in life, and I hope
that this doesn't mature you andthink that all black men are the
same because clearly they'renot.
As I said before, I don't putFilipino women on a pedestal.
I don't, I just enjoy what theyhave to offer.

(55:12):
I'm not saying you should getlike them, but I'm saying that
if you have an issue with me,the issue is gonna start with
you and taking a hard look atyourself and trying to figure
out what you can do to makeyourself either more better or
more right for yourself and howyou can keep a relationship
going.
Because I have no issues witheverything that you wrote in the

(55:32):
letter.
I don't.
If you want to be mad anddiscredit me, that's fine.
You're clearly lashing out atme, that's fine.
I'll take it, it's fine, not abig deal.
But don't call me uh not a realman when you're not even a real
woman.
Because a real woman wouldreveal herself, I mean, not

(55:53):
revealed herself, no, I won'tsay it like that, but clearly
tell me who you are or who youare.
It's not for me just to comedown on you and say this, that,
and the other.
If you got followers, you gotfollowers.
That's fine.
That's good.
I'm happy for you.
But that's not gonna make youhappy.
You're clearly missing somethingin your life, and that is the
affection and the love ofsomebody who cares about you.

(56:17):
Because I don't know if anybodydoes or doesn't care about you,
but clearly you're missing someaspect of that in your life.
You're missing something.
So I don't know who hurt you orwhy they hurt you, but I can
tell you this you can come backfrom that.
I'm not the one who hurt you.

(56:38):
I think I'm just somebody youcan crash out on, which is fine,
I'll take it.
But in order for you to move onwith your life, you need to kind
of reevaluate yourself and lookat yourself and see what you can
do differently to make yourselfhappy.
Don't wake up on a negative noteevery day and think that all
black men are the same becauseall black men are the same.

(56:58):
You know, it's crazy because asa black man, we don't get mad
when we see white uh men goafter black women.
I don't get mad at none of that.
I'm like, oh, I'm happy forthem.
I don't.
But why is it that black womenalways get mad when they see a
black man with somebody of theopposite race?
I don't understand that.
Why?
Because if you didn't know him,or if you knew, even if you

(57:24):
didn't know him, you know what?
Let's give you an example.
Even if you know this guy andyou work with this guy, but you
wouldn't give him the time ofday, but the person that you
work with ultimately did givethat person a time of day, why
are you mad?
Why are you mad?
And then you try to do somemischievous shit and try to say,

(57:44):
try to get back, well, youshould have been with me, or
hey, how about you come overhere?
And you're just doing justtrying to ruin a happy own.
That's it.
I don't play games like that.
I don't.
I think when you play withsomebody's emotions, it's real,
it's very real.
And I think that when youultimately try to assess your

(58:05):
life and assess your situation,and I don't know what that may
be.
I want you to email me back whenyou can.
Maybe we can talk more aboutthis.
We don't have to be.
I mean, I was gonna do a liveforum chat, but we don't have to
do that.
So I think that for this person,I think clearly you're hurting.

(58:29):
Somebody hurt you, but it wasn'tme.
Because I don't even know you,and I haven't dated anybody over
here since my wife passed.
So clearly it ain't been me.
And I'm not the kind of personthat's going to get down on you
or crash out about you and say,well, whatever.
So, my friends, thank y'all fortuning in.

(58:49):
We got another show coming uphere shortly, maybe in a couple
hours.
I gotta go get some damn reddiamond tea because I'm out of
tea.
I need my tea.
The links are in my description.
I'm also I'm working on, I'mtrying to get this other uh
platform up, but it's just notgoing the way I thought it was.

(59:10):
Yeah, you know, that's what itis.
But I do want to say Iappreciate you guys for tuning
in.
Um, sorry that um, and again, Isay that you know the shows be
released every Wednesday.
I'll probably go ahead andrelease this one.
I am on every streaming platformthat you can think of, whether
that be Amazon, uh Spotify, uhuh iTunes, uh uh uh and some

(59:35):
other ones.
I can't name it all shit.
I'm on there.
I'm on there, okay?
So either you want to look at meor you don't.
Because if you don't want tolook at me, this shit can get
real.
No, I'm just joking.
I'm kidding, kid.
So but I want to say a shout outto my listeners who follow me on

(59:57):
IG, TikTok, you know, whatever.
Whatever.
I don't care.
I appreciate you guys.
I thank you.
Like I said, I just do thisbecause I like doing it.
I like engaging with the people.
And hopefully on the next show,I don't know, I might try to do
that today.
Maybe we can get engaged and wecan have people come in and you
know maybe just talk about somethings.
You know, I'm just saying.

(01:00:18):
You know.
My past shows are always onYouTube.
Um, I can't really upload themall to the um site, but as a one
listener asked me to upload ashow that I did, uh, which I
found was funny and she foundwas funny too, but I uploaded
that show already.

(01:00:39):
So um the links are always inthe description.
Um Yeah.
So I'm gonna let y'all groove.
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The Burden

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The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.

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